Photos of the new Turkish MBT Altay

November 15, in Adapazar (Sakarya province), the Turkish company Otokar held a ceremony of presentation of the prototype of the new main combat tank Altay - the first national tank, developed jointly with the South Korean company Hyundai Rotem. The ceremony was attended by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Minister of Defense Ismet Yilmaz.

The photo shows two prototypes: the first (MTR) is designed for sea trials, the second (FTR) is for fire tests. Until the end of the year, Otokar plans to manufacture two more prototypes of the Altay tank, and from the 2015 of the year to begin their mass production. A full-scale mock-up of the new Turkish MBT was first presented at IDEF-2011 in Istanbul.

Comments

[predator.3]

something he looks like a German "leopard"!

[sv-sakh]

What name is it native? "Altai"
And it really looks like a "leopard" in geometry

[Vanek]

Quote: sv-sakh

And it really looks like a "leopard" in geometry

Maybe Abrams, no?

[sv-sakh]

Yes, a lot of what it looks like :) and Leclerc and Abram and Leopard ...
In short, it looks like a Turkish tank

[Vanek]

Quote: sv-sakh

and Leclerc and Abram and Leopard ...
In short, it looks like a Turkish tank

From World to String - To the Turks ............... To the Turks Turkish tank

[kotdavin4i]

Quote: Vanek

Turkish turkish tank

Good morning everyone!
Why only to the Turks. Having mastered the technology (which is a priority when creating a tank), they will sell it. Azerbaijan as an ally and partner will buy - 100% of the Arab countries can take, but who knows. take a look at his tests.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: sv-sakh

Altai "

It will be necessary to answer the Turks and name BMD 4 Istanbul no better Constantinople

[sv-sakh]

More precisely "To Constantinople" .. and this is the name for the whole board

[YARY]

Better yet, Ankara
We are used to visiting the capitals -Paris Berlin .....

[vorobey]

And then call the new guided anti-tank missile- Fuck you.

Neighing men thanks.

[Vito]

Good day to you, dear!

Quote: Alexander Romanov

no better Constantinople

Quote: sv-sakh

More precisely "To Constantinople" ..

Well, maybe then "SINOPE" is better ???

[tekinoral]

It will be necessary to answer the Turks and name BMD 4 Istanbul is not better than Constantinople
do you dream, do you dream, and do you see a dream about Istanbul? would you feed the Greeks for a start, otherwise they will die of hunger soon

[sergskak]

Yes, the name finishes off more than the characteristics. Is "Altai" a mockery or far-reaching plans? We urgently need to create "Ankara"!

[kagorta]

Fakhrettin Altai - Turkish general freed Izmir from the Greeks in the war for independence. The commander of the cavalry corps. The tank is named after him, not our mountains.
And as a joke, the translation from the Turkic word Altai means golden

[sergskak]

kagorta,Thanks for the info!

[Civil]

kagorta,

Altai is the ancestral home of all modern Turkic peoples of the world, where in 552 BC e. ancient Turks created their own state - the Kaganate. Turks = Turks

[kagorta]

Turkic concept is wide.
Here is a quote from the wiki about those who formally formed the Turkish nation, including Azerbaijan.
According to researchers, the Oghuzs formed in the Aral Sea steppes as a result of mixing Turkic peoples with local Ugric and Sarmatian tribes [4].

In the first half of the tenth century, Oguzes lived in the steppes of the Syr Darya and in the cities of Karadzhuk (Farab) and Sairam. According to geographers Istahri, Ibn-Khavkal and the source of “Khudud-al-alem”, Oguz territory spread from the Caspian Sea in the west and the city of Urgench in the south to Bukhara in Maverannahr and the city of Sabran in the east [5].

The Oghuzs entered the historical arena as the eastern vassals of the Khazar Khaganate. Their first “historical act" was the crowding out of the Pechenegs from Western Kazakhstan to the Don steppes at the end of the 6th century [1060]. This part of the Oghuz became known in Russia under the name Torquay. In the XI century, they were disturbed by the Polovtsy and forced to migrate after the Pechenegs. According to The Tale of Bygone Years, the combined forces of the Russian princes in XNUMX dealt a crushing blow to the Torquay. The fate of these Oghuzs was short-lived, as they had to partially merge with the Pechenegs as part of the Gagauz people, partially pass under the power of Russia and merge with the Russians in Porosye.

In the X century, another part of the Oghuz migrate to the southeast, where they convert to Islam and are hired by the local rulers of the Samanids and Karakhanids, however, taking advantage of the weakening of these states, they rebel and form the Ghaznavid states (with a center in Afghanistan) and the Seljuks ( with center in Turkmenistan). Having seized almost the entire Middle East, the Seljukids are the most viable, laying the foundations of the statehood of modern Turkey (through the Koni Sultanate), Azerbaijan (via Kara-Koyunlu) and Turkmenistan.

[core]

Turks have nothing to do with ancient Turks. face the illegal privatization of someone else’s glory

[Yeraz]

Quote: sergskak

Yes, the name finishes off more than the characteristics. Is "Altai" a mockery or far-reaching plans?

No, the Turks are just very proud that they are Turks and where their ancestors came from (Altai)

[vorobey]

Quote: Yeraz

No, the Turks are just very proud that they are Turks and where their ancestors came from (Altai)

for which they minus the lad. sedition in the comment is not.

[sergskak]

Quote: Yeraz

Turks are just very proud that they are Turks and where their ancestors came from (Altai)

This is certainly not forbidden. Let yourself be proud as much as they want.

[Skiff]

Nank altay, which is Turkey's first national development in tank building. The tank is so named because Altai is considered the ancestral home of all Turkic peoples. The Altay tank was developed by the South Korean company hyundai rotem in cooperation with the Turkish car company otokar. The basis for the new Turkish tank was the South Korean tank XK-2 black panter. Turkish military engineers altered and enlarged the turret, increased its armor protection. It is known that the armor and fire control system are Turkish developments. Also, unlike its South Korean "parent", the Turkish tank has seven road wheels (the XK-2 has 6). In the Altay tank, South Korean technologies, according to the Turkish Ministry of Defense, will be about 60%, and its cost is estimated at 500 million .dollars. How many Altai tanks will be produced is still unknown.

Pictured South Korean tank HC-2

[Civil]

tank hk-2 black panter

and he began his biography as Abrams

[Vadivak]

Quote: predator.3

something he strongly looks like a German "leopard

I also think - "Leopard-2A4, Turkey and Germany are traditional allies, why

[sergskak]

Here is such a modification and even cooler.

[Vanek]

Nevermind shiba machine Damn, I'll be a wheeled tractor!

[UPStoyan]

The Turks use Leopards, and they have always been friends with the Germans. So, for sure, many of the elements were stolen from the German car.

[Yarbay]

Quote: UPStoyan

The Turks use Leopards, and they have always been friends with the Germans. So, for sure, many of the elements were stolen from the German car.

One of the main engineers of the designers of the German tank Leopard was the former Prime Minister of Turkey Najmeddin Erbakan !!

[Yarbay]

Quote: Yarbay

One of the main engineers of the designers of the German tank Leopard was the former Prime Minister of Turkey Najmeddin Erbakan !!

I am very interested in what motivated those three comrades who put a minus to me?
They believe that Erbakan was not one of the main designers of the Leopard tank or are they unhappy with this fact?))

[Common sense]

No, they just don’t like you)

[Dart weyder]

yes - they tore off the world a bit - there is a leopard, and an abrams to be viewed and so on ........... the tower looks interesting ... but it’s not like to disintegrate
time will tell what kind of beast)))) (the next tank is not Armata - but Ankara))))))))))))))))))

[Vanek]

Quote: Dart Weyder

need the next tank not Armata - but Ankara)

Kill Turkey without firing a shot

[kotdavin4i]

Quote: Dart Weyder

yes - tore off the world

Well, who in the world does not rip off ??? Each successful model of technology is immediately considered by manufacturers of other countries, what needs to be taken, copied ...

[neri73-r]

At one time, the USSR did not copy, they made copies of ours!

[kotdavin4i]

Dear - especially for you - watch the series "Armor of Russia" from the studio "Wings of the Motherland" - and you will be pleasantly surprised that the first models of the USSR were copied. Further, as the experience of its designers grew, the USSR produced its own models (again, the historically modern lineup of the Slamsen tank from the French Reno FT-17)
http://onlinetanki.blogspot.com/2010/12/ft-17.html

[MilaPhone]

“Tank M” is the first Russian tank, although it was created on the basis of the French Renault FT-17 (also called “Russian Renault”, “Tank Freedom Fighter Comrade Lenin”), the first Soviet tank and the first Russian tank put into serial production . It was produced in 1920-1921 at the Sormovsk plant (Nizhny Novgorod) in a small series of 15 cars. Despite the official adoption of the Red Army in 1920, the tanks did not take part in any military operations. They were in service until 1930.

Russian Renault

Renault FT-17

The FT-17 was licensed in the United States under the name M1917 (Ford Two Man) (950 units were released) and in Italy under the name FIAT 3000.

[old rocket man]

It would seem that, or who, so threatens the Turks to invest in such an expensive project as creating their own MBT? But even the Turks understand that the army of a truly independent country must possess weapons of its own production. But the Leopard is an excellent tank, and I don’t think that Germany would refuse to supply Turkey in any quantity. There is something for our big-star to think about.

[patsantre]

Any country, all the more so large and very rich, needs a strong army, and without tanks there is no way. And it’s cheaper and more profitable to produce YOUR tanks YOURSELF, and also make money on export than buy it yourself.

[Joker]

With the world on a string, the new tank is ready

[123dv]

Yes, just bought a batch of inflatable leopards, and repainted a bit in the local manner
One offends, what does Altai have to do with it !!!

[Yeraz]

Quote: 123dv

One offends, what does Altai have to do with it !!!

Altai Türk land !! Or was this originally Russian land ?? Or why Turkish, Azeobaijan, Turkmen and many other languages ​​are included in the ALTAI group of languages.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Altai TURK LAND !! Or was this native Russian land ??

Do you speak land of trkov? Well, come to us, try and pick her up to pick up a Turk)))))

[Vanek]

Quote: Yeraz

Altai TURK EARTH!

Then I’ll look there, the Turks alone. Yeah.

[Yeraz]

Quote: Vanek

Then I’ll look there, the Turks alone. Yeah.

In Tatarstan, almost half of Russians, but this does not mean that Tatarstan is not the land of Tatars (Turks), but originally Russian.
by the way soon in Altai there will be no one left a crazy migration of people from there.

[Yeraz]

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

Do you speak land of trkov? Well, come to us, try and pick her up to pick up a Turk)))))

and it’s not about picking up, but about the perplexity of some why the Tank is so called.

[s1н7т]

Quote: Yeraz

Turkish, Azeobaijan, Turkmen and many other languages ​​are included in the ALTAI group of languages

Officially - "... refers to the Turkic group of the Altai language family - Khakass, Yakuts, Dolgans, Chulyms, Tuvinians, Shors, Altai, Tofalars, Kumandins, Teleuts.

The Buryats (Mongolian group), as well as Evenks, Evens, Nanai, Udege, Ulchi, Negidal (Tungus-Manchurian group) belong to the same language family. "

Where are the Turks?
Hypothetically - (if you are too lazy to look at Wiki) Altai is a possible language family, which, according to its supporters, includes Turkic, Mongolian, Tungus-Manchu and Japanese-Ryukyu language branches, as well as the Korean isolate language [1]. These languages ​​are spoken in the territory of northeast Asia, central Asia, Anatolia and eastern Europe (Turks, Kalmyks) [2]. The group is named after the Altai Mountains, a mountain range in central Asia.

These language families have many similar characteristics. The question is their source. One camp, the “Altaiists,” sees similarities as a result of a common origin from the Pra-Altai language that was spoken several thousand years ago. Another camp, the “anti-Altaiists,” considers similarities as a result of the interaction between these language groups ... Well, pr. Nonsense.
Trying to imagine all this mass of people in the Altai Mountains

[sergskak]

Why are you ... sya. Türks, so Türks (chocks in our opinion). What is the difference, was it or not native Russian land? What are you ..... sya. Does it bother you very much? Maybe it was now then no !!! The question is closed. Everything is simple!

[understudy]

It looks solid. And from the stern it is impressive. It would be necessary to "feel" the insides.

Quote: Old Rocketman

There is something to think about for our big-star.

Recently, they have been taught to stop doing this. Unfortunately...

[I. Brovkin]

It looks a little like a promising tank (the tower is inhabited, there is no automatic loader). For me it will be garbage.

[Samovar]

Quote: I. Brovkin

It looks a little like a promising tank

By promising is meant a tank that theoretically can enter the army, but has not yet been adopted.

Quote: I. Brovkin

inhabited tower, no automatic charging

The "perspective" of the tank does not depend on these features. For example, the "Black Eagle" also did not have an uninhabited tower. Nevertheless, it is considered (considered) a promising tank.

[schta]

In the photos Altai - a mixture of Abram with Leopard. The tower is huge of course.

[s1н7т]

Photo - it is a photo. Picture. What is there to discuss? And outwardly - a continuous compile
I wonder - what are the production capabilities of the Turks?

[romb]

I am also interested in this question.
If we take into account that Kazakhstan and Turkey are currently carrying out measures to organize joint production of various Otokar equipment and Aselsan military equipment, it is quite possible to assume that some elements for Altai may in the future be produced in Kazakhstan.

[vorobey]

Che judge and row - test results on the table.
In the meantime, this is just an elegant box with a terrifying look.

Only one thing is visible - the Turks do not have their own school and there is nothing to wait for a breakthrough. Surely the car is similar, I emphasize similar in characteristics.

[Yarbay]

Quote: vorobey

Only one thing is visible - the Turks do not have their own school and there is nothing to wait for a breakthrough.

Hello dear sparrow!
I do not agree that Turkey did not build tanks before does not mean that there was no school !!
A lot of Turkish engineers worked in 60-90 years for Germany!
No production school for sure!

[koosss]

tank like a tank..nothing special

[General]

I provide you with information about the performance characteristics of the Turkish tank

Diesel engine - 1 hp (800 but upgraded to 1500
Weight 61 - 65 tons
Length - 7735 mm
Width - 3972 mm
Height - 2640 mm
Smoothbore Gun - 120-mm
Paired 12,7-mm machine gun
Ammunition - 67 units
Speed ​​- 90 km / h road
Walking stock - 450-480 km

[kov]

Here he is handsome -

[ademarq155]

The Turkish company "Otokar" revealed the technical and technical characteristics of the tank "Altay". The tank will weigh 60 tons, capacity –1500l / s and will have a hydropneumatic suspension system.

The crew of the tank will consist of four people. It will be equipped with a 120 mm main gun. A remote control module will be installed on the Altay tank.

Tests of the tank were supposed to begin in 2015, however, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that the tests of the first prototypes of the tank of Turkish development will take place two years ahead of the contractual deadline, and the tests will begin next year.

[tekinoral]

Here is actually the first Turkish tank, made in 1943 which did not go into series