Remember how the world will be in Ukrainian

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Remember how the world will be in Ukrainian


Everything for the front, everything for ... victory?


"Independents" rested. In earnest, although it is hard to believe that the generals who tried to swoop into Kyiv, Zaporozhye and Kharkov really believed that it would be different. Although I wanted orders. But there was someone to resist - another confirmation that they were preparing to return the Crimea and Donbass.



Half a trillion, and not rubles, but dollars, from the West to support the "square", and mainly to support the pants of the ruling elite, is still no joke. You have to work to the fullest and, of course, not to those who are at the top, but to those who are from below, and very deep from below.

In trenches, in dugouts, in endless tunnels and walkers under heaps. And families - in the basements, and it's even better if in the subway. With dreams of victory, which they are drawn by those at the top. Peremoge with the drug president on the Yalta embankment with a fishing rod in his hands.

Or even cooler - with "Leopards" in Moscow and even in the Urals. Zaluzhny or Reznikov, characters who belong in Ward No. 6, race to draw “permissible” scenarios, and something meaningful in Kiev can now be heard, perhaps, only from “Lucy” - Arestovich.

We have to remind all of them that there is no land for us beyond the Volga, although now it is beyond the Dnieper at all. Even if it's exactly the opposite. But, to be honest, we remind you so rarely that in Russia almost no one hears or sees!

All for Victory!


But just Russia still does not want to admit that it lives today by no means in peaceful conditions. Too many prefer to live as they lived, but would not even mind if they were "mobilized". No, not to the front, but to defense factories, where, they say, now they pay twice, or even three times more than before the SVO.

Just go and get settled, they won't take it very much. It is much easier to volunteer or join the Wagners, we also know about hundreds, even thousands of volunteers and those over 50 who have become nurses or enrolled in BARS.

I think there is no need to remind who it is and what it is - BARS. Do not forget Balakleya, Kupyansk and Kherson. And among other things, this is precisely why the issue of “brain mobilization” is becoming more and more acute in Russia every day, but in the information war it again takes us somewhere in the wrong direction.

Experts and quite officials, moreover, the most patriotic, and without the experience of retreats, like Strelkov-Girkin, after him repeat, like a mantra, arguments about how the enemy is accumulating forces for a breakthrough to the coast of the Sea of ​​​​Azov.

Or a certain, either young or youthful gentleman with an “interesting” surname Klintsevich with a very serious face, tells from TV screens about where the bomb shelters are located in St. Petersburg. Don't you think that all this is more like alarmism?

And you know how to deal with alarmists. At the same time, who just does not insist that the goals set during the NWO will be fulfilled. But for some reason, sometimes "sooner or later" slips - either in the affirmative, or with a question mark. As you can see, Prigozhin and the big commanders of the NVO are not just squabbling.

Of these, after the very first "retribution strikes", not sham, but real ones, and after the abandoned Kherson, General Surovikin was immediately pushed deeply. It’s good that they didn’t blame him, very accurately nicknamed “General Armageddon”, all responsibility for this extraordinary “goodwill gesture”.


The world is so different


And the press secretary of the president, who cannot be overshadowed by the “talking head of the Ministry of Defense,” decided to remind that talk about peace is now inappropriate. It depends with whom, you never know what and how it will turn over in Kyiv. "Color revolutions" is a commodity in demand.

Addressing his press secretary, the head of state noted a couple of times that he sometimes “brings such a blizzard”. May God grant that it will be so this time as well. After all, we didn’t say that even the worst peace is better than war. Let someone try to accuse the author of unfounded pacifism.

The world can be "shameful", we do not just regularly remember Khasavyurt, but we must not forget what happened after. It is the same with the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, which Lenin honestly called "obscene" - Soviet Russia tore it apart very quickly, as soon as it began to win on the Civil fronts.

Here, it would not be superfluous to recall that Ukraine participated in the negotiations in Brest in 1918 as an "independent" - that is, as an independent state. And then she openly framed the Russian delegates, hastily signing something like a preliminary peace agreement with the Germans and their allies.

“Yellow-Blakitnye” then obviously not for nothing handed over everything that was possible and impossible. And the rapid invasion of the Germans almost to Tsaritsyn itself - for Ukrainian and Russian bread, this is actually their work. The Bolsheviks were simply left no choice, and Lenin gave the command to urgently sign!

And the allies - England, France and Italy - can specifically commemorate the Ukrainian comrades, that is, "lords" or "lords", with unkind words for the fact that the First World War was still delayed - for more than six months.

Remember the war


These words were spoken by Admiral Makarov and engraved on his monument in Kronstadt, but how now I want to remember the world. Peace, if not war, and not as in the Move - "Svit". Leo Tolstoy did not just argue with the publishers when his "War and Peace" was published, because he just meant the World, like the whole World, and "not war" only meant.


With the old spelling of the words Mir and Mir, no one confused them, it would be good not to confuse them now, and not to confuse peace with a truce, since it is clear that even a protracted truce for Russia will only mean the forerunner of a new war. And the fact that the answer is “no” to the question “do the Russians want wars?” quite unambiguous and has not changed over the years, there is no need to explain.

Returning to the "obscene" Brest and its consequences, I cannot fail to note one more thing. If, instead of Russian comfreys, the Yankees had not arrived on the Old Continent to divide the European pie, Germany would have had good chances of winning. Even in alliance with the rotten Habsburg empire, especially since the Turks and Bulgarians were on their side.

Well, today the West is literally impatient to re-qualify the NMD as a war, although it would be more correct in CTO - a counter-terrorist operation. How else to deal with these bad people?
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  1. +2
    19 March 2023 05: 51
    That's when the far-fetched will give way to the real, the country will win small and big victories. Pacifists were hurt here. But the supporters of the war must also remember that in today's world, no country is ready to wage a long war. The armies are fine. But now no one will succeed in transferring the entire industry to a war footing. Only Stalin succeeded in this. Even Hitler could not do it. He had to take the industrial countries. Let go of everything unreal. Work not with words, but with deeds.
    1. -22
      19 March 2023 06: 17
      What industrial countries did Hitler take? Agrarian flattery, which has mastered nothing but a 7-ton tank of the early 30s? The Czech Republic, which barely gave a few hundred tanks, obsolete by the end of the 41st. France.? In which, after the occupation, they did not really produce anything. All the power of Germany was forged on German capacities from the beginning to the end of the war. And given that the flames of fascism could be extinguished only after years of war by the whole world, the artist was quite successful in setting the country on a war footing.
      1. +9
        19 March 2023 06: 25
        Poland and the Czech Republic were by no means agricultural countries. Was power forged at German enterprises? Yes, well? Except under the German sign. .According to the article ..But how will he cope with the collective West? "Operations", negotiations, or is it still a war?
        1. +2
          19 March 2023 09: 03
          In Europe, ̶̶k̶a̶p̶i̶t̶u̶l̶ya̶ts̶i̶ya̶ the conclusion of Peace has always led to the loss of territories. sad
      2. +17
        19 March 2023 09: 22
        "The Czech Republic, which barely gave a few hundred tanks, obsolete by the end of the 41st"
        not the Czech Republic, actually, but Czechoslovakia. and it was, as it were, not more industrially developed than Germany. tanks, self-propelled guns, rifles, cars, uniforms and boots - all this was produced in large quantities, with high quality, until May 9th. without the Czechs, the war would have ended much earlier. Or maybe it wouldn't start at all.
        1. +3
          19 March 2023 10: 17
          Well, if it’s real, then at that time it was the Czech Republic and Slovakia .. Some worked hard for the Reich, others fought on the side of the Wehrmacht, like the Slovak "fast division".
      3. +2
        19 March 2023 23: 58
        Quote from DMFalke
        All the power of Germany was forged on German capacities from the beginning to the end of the war.

        Oh really?

        Quote from DMFalke
        And given that the flames of fascism could be extinguished only after years of war by the whole world, the artist was quite successful in setting the country on a war footing.

        What prevented the artist, in alliance with Hungary, Romania, Italy and Finland, to break the back of Stalin before July 6, 1944? There was only one country - the USSR - "agrarian", "uneducated", "uncouth"!

        Creating the land army of Germany in 1933-41, Germany literally licked every soldier and officer of the Wehrmacht, investing in each ten times more than the USSR in the Red Army. It is at the expense of Poland, Czechoslovakia, Austria, France and Scandinavian countries. And these idiots planned with a ground army of 3.3 million Wehrmacht soldiers plus 0.9 million allies, with the support of 1.2 million Air Force and Navy, to conquer the USSR to the Arkhangelsk-Astrakhan line.

        But the USSR, in a ratio of 2.5: 1, albeit not in its favor, knocked out these "licked" soldiers until the summer of 1943, and then Germany threw "just meat", like today's Ukraine.
        And here they began to knead it at a ratio of 1:1 first until the spring of 1944, at a ratio of 0.7: 1 until December 1944, and at a ratio of 3: 1 in 1945 already in favor of the USSR.

        And if Germany's losses before the summer of 1943 amounted to 2.7 million dead, 0.9 disabled and 0.3 prisoners of war, that is, only 3.9. million Wehrmacht and 0.6 allies of Germany,

        then from July 1943 to May 1945 Germany lost 3.2 million dead, 1 million disabled and 2.8 million prisoners of war, that is, 7 million only Wehrmacht soldiers - without 0.8 million allies, without 1.1 million Volkssturm on the Eastern Front.
        And there was also the Western Front!

        Russia has always taken in quantity, only slightly inferior in quality (1.2: 1 in favor of Germany following the results of the Second World War) .. But on the other hand, we could mobilize such a quantity that Europe could not even dream of. And the same thing will happen today, if the need arises. Europe will not withstand the criticality of its losses - not then, not now! It's clear?

        As for your love for the "artist and his talents", then learn the history of losses during the periods of the Second World War!
      4. +1
        20 March 2023 11: 37
        Quote from DMFalke
        The Czech Republic, which barely gave a few hundred tanks, obsolete by the end of the 41st.

        And the Hetzers are quite effective until the end of the war, no?
        And Mauser98 with machine guns?
        Quote from DMFalke
        the artist was quite successful in setting the country on a war footing.

        But Speer had a different opinion for some reason .....
      5. 0
        20 March 2023 16: 37
        The Czech Republic was and is one of the main suppliers of weapons for the Nazis. Without 100% return of the Czechs - Hitler could not have fought against us for so long. Even Germany itself resisted the Nazis more than the Czech Republic. And now everything is the same.
  2. +7
    19 March 2023 06: 20
    Soviet Russia tore it apart very quickly, as soon as it began to win on the Civil fronts.
    Is it okay that the world was annulled as soon as the revolution took place in Germany? And the UNR did not conclude any preliminary peace agreement, but concluded a full-fledged peace. And the Germans did not reach Tsaritsin, but only to Rostov? And Tsaritsin, ataman Krasnov, armed with the Germans, stormed?
  3. +11
    19 March 2023 06: 39
    All our political life of the last three decades is fantasy and surrealism. But those that provided a few-fantastic fortunes.

    And society cannot wake up from all this nonsense. And he can’t even realize that in a war any division commander has tactical nuclear weapons and can finish everything that happens in one day. Moreover, this will postpone the threat of world conflict for many years.

    A society that is delirious does not realize that in a sober sound mind it could solve its problems quickly. And without huge human losses.

    And since it exists, it’s nonsense and it turns out: at the same time there is war and there is no war, and they shoot and the world seems to be ...
    1. 0
      19 March 2023 06: 58
      Quote: ivan2022
      at the same time there is war and there is no war and they shoot and the world seems to be

      And how many undeclared wars were fought before these three decades?
      1. +7
        19 March 2023 07: 03
        A counter question and to the point. And how many undeclared wars have there been in 30 years on the territory of the former USSR?
      2. +8
        19 March 2023 07: 57
        Quote: Dart2027

        And how many undeclared wars were fought before these three decades?

        And that they always supplied fuel to the enemy and always conducted all business "with one hand"?

        No... but... I remember heartbreaking stories from Soviet times
        about how on the morning of June 22, 1941, a train with coal went from the USSR to Germany and how the entire Soviet government was to blame for this. Measure with different measures.
        1. +1
          19 March 2023 09: 38
          Quote: ivan2022
          And that they always supplied fuel to the enemy and always conducted all business "with one hand"?
          That is, you want to say that the USSR did not trade with NATO countries and did not supply oil and gas to Western Europe?
        2. +8
          19 March 2023 10: 27
          how on the morning of June 22, 1941, a train with coal went from the USSR to Germany

          In exchange for this, machine tools and tools came from Germany until the last day, with the help of which we then made tanks and planes ..

          And what went and goes to us in exchange for gas, oil and wheat now? Villas and yachts for officials and alligators?
  4. +18
    19 March 2023 07: 55
    Or even cooler - with "Leopards" in Moscow and even in the Urals. Zaluchny or Reznikov - characters who belong in Ward No. 6
    Why can't we defeat an army with such psychos at the head, for the second year already. Tired of these nonsense propaganda.
    No, not to the front, but to defense factories, where, they say, now they pay twice, or even three times more than before the SVO.
    Who is speaking? There are big doubts, only if top management (well, as usual). And the workers only have a reservation from mobilization.
    Of these, after the very first "retribution strikes", not sham, but real ones, and after the abandoned Kherson, General Surovikin was immediately pushed deeply.
    Well, that's funny. And if it had not been removed, Ukraine "sorry would have already asked" ?! I also forgot about Wagner's help from him - like there was Surovikin, there were shells, they removed it, no. And the fact that they are generally not enough, but who cares. The author is some kind of talker, at first I thought that Staver. Another question is what is worse, alarmism, or outright stupidity, a la Lieutenant Oak from Schweik.
    1. +10
      19 March 2023 08: 17
      Kherson was left for mercantile reasons. When they took it, they thought that the cargo turnover through it would remain the same. They held it, held it, it turned out that no one recognized the jurisdiction of Russia over Kherson, neither friendly nor not friendly countries. During this time, while Kherson was ours, the cargo turnover fell. We had to "return" it to its place. I am writing this because, in the first months, it was planned to create the structure of our enterprise in Kherson. I was going to go there, because. on the list of the Censor, still for the Crimea. But then the conversations subsided and they said that no one would go there, and then they handed over Kherson.
      1. +2
        19 March 2023 13: 53
        What kind of nonsense, using the example of Crimea, it was clear that Western and even friendly countries for many years bypassed Crimea in terms of recognizing it as the Russian Federation.
        Therefore, I think no one at the top did not count on the recognition of Kherson.
        1. +2
          19 March 2023 15: 25
          What nonsense
          But nevertheless, the group was formed from those people who were involved in the Crimea. I was 90% sure that I would go .. But .. it didn’t grow together.
    2. 0
      20 March 2023 11: 23
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      we can't defeat an army with such psychos at the head,

      Who would explain, with references to official documents, what is the "denazification of Ukraine"?
      In my opinion, this is a lifetime ban on all current Ukrainian officials and their children to hold any leadership positions and sign any documents. An eternal ban on levying taxes and levies on workers in production, so as not to create a financial basis for a new bureaucracy.
      And secondly, a ban on selling yellow and blue paint, tearing off flags and renaming streets back to Soviet names.
      But what do the Russian authorities mean by "denazification"?
  5. +3
    19 March 2023 08: 36
    Quote: A. Podymov
    Returning to the "obscene" Brest

    What do you think Lenin should have done? Russia is surrounded by enemies, both external and internal. To continue the war on two fronts is the death of the young Soviet Republic and the dismemberment of Russia between the countries of the Entente. History has shown that Lenin was right, and Troitsky was wrong!



    Today we are ready to negotiate with the West on our proposals set out on December 15, 12. We understand that NATO will not be able to withdraw its troops to the original borders at once. We are ready to discuss the "road map" on these issues and other...

    The goals of the SVO in Ukraine are unchanged - the change of political leadership by the forces of the Ukrainians themselves or with our help (the SVO will help them). Reformatting the political map of Ukraine - holding referendums in all regions on the issue of confederation and, whoever wishes, on joining Russia.
    1. +2
      19 March 2023 09: 11
      Quote: Boris55
      that Lenin was right, but Troitsky was not!

      Which Trinity? Artemy? smile
      1. -2
        19 March 2023 09: 26
        Quote: sergeyezhov
        Which Trinity?

        Which is Leiba Davidovich Bronstein. He was against the signing of the Brest Peace.

    2. +4
      19 March 2023 10: 46
      Boris Leontievich, at the time of the conclusion of the Brest peace, Soviet Russia was not yet in the ring of fronts. This ring was only just being created, and it began to be created after the UNR concluded its Brest peace, according to which, on the territory of Ukraine , the entry of the German-Austrian-Hungarian troops began. Before the conclusion of the "Unrovsky" "obscene" peace, the parties agreed that the border would pass along the line of the Russian-German-Austrian-Hungarian-Austrian front. The same status quo should was preserved on the Caucasian front. But the Ukrainian-German treaty broke everything and in connection with the onset of the German offensive, Soviet Russia was forced to conclude the Brest Peace, which, using the words of Lenin, is called "obscene." They say, Lenin, as "German spy", he gave everything to Ukraine and everything else. More, I will say, when a truce was concluded between the countries of the Entente and the Quadruple Alliance, there was such a point that the troops of this union should not be withdrawn from the territory of Soviet Russia.
      1. -1
        19 March 2023 12: 44
        Quote: parusnik
        Boris Leontyevich, at the time of the conclusion of the Brest Peace, Soviet Russia was not yet in the ring of fronts

        3 March 1918 year, the "obscene" Brest peace was signed. Map on August 1918 (six months after signing):


        The Brest peace was signed on time. We dealt with the internal enemy, carried out industrialization and after the Second World War, returned everything that was lost.

        The White movement, which arose after the abdication of the throne of the Russian Emperor Nicholas II in the summer and autumn of 1917, entered the service of the Entente and fought against Russia. Against the Bolsheviks - from the very first day they came to power. Not all tsarist generals became traitors. Half of the officers faithfully served the fatherland in the ranks of the Red Army.
  6. +10
    19 March 2023 09: 40
    Another 500 008 explanation why everything is not as promised...

    And so everything is clear to everyone.
    "Everything for the Victory!" - while the media happily choking, they talked about record trade in 2022 with the EU, therefore record deliveries of resources to NATO, sadly - about a record export of capital, and very quietly - about a record trip to Dubai and purchases of real estate there ....
  7. +8
    19 March 2023 10: 22
    The article is long, there are many words. What idea the author wanted to express is not clear.
  8. +2
    19 March 2023 10: 45
    I can’t believe that the generals who tried to rush into Kyiv, Zaporozhye and Kharkov really believed that it would be different

    They believed, just as they believed in the Kremlin, godfather Medvedchuk, that they would meet him with flowers.
    But just Russia still does not want to admit that it lives today by no means in peaceful conditions. Too many prefer to live as they lived, but would not even mind if they were "mobilized". No, not to the front, but to defense factories, where, they say, now they pay twice, or even three times more than before the SVO.


    The ICC warrant for Putin's arrest says one thing - the West in Ukraine will not be satisfied with any peace, except for the complete and unconditional surrender of the Russian Federation, the withdrawal of Russian troops to the borders of 2013, the payment of reparations to Ukraine and its entry into NATO, the disarmament of the Russian Federation under NATO control.
  9. +4
    19 March 2023 10: 46
    "All is well beautiful marquise" ©? request
  10. +5
    19 March 2023 11: 59
    No, not to the front, but to defense factories, where, they say, now they pay twice, or even three times more than before the SVO.
    How much we paid, so much they pay.
    Just go and get settled, they won't take it very much.
    And you try. If you're anything at all, they'll take it.
    And you know how to deal with alarmists.
    If there are no brains of their own, then at least they listen to alarmists. If they would have listened to them, they would not have missed the offensive of the Ukrainians, and Kherson would not have to surrender.
    Leo Tolstoy did not just argue with the publishers when his "War and Peace" was published, because he just meant the World, like the whole World, and "not war" only meant.
    The word "World" in Tolstoy is a peasant community (let's take the whole world - this is from there), and not Light.
    If, instead of Russian comfreys, the Yankees had not arrived on the Old Continent to divide the European pie, Germany would have had good chances of winning.
    1. The Yankees actually didn’t have time by the end of the war, not that they didn’t fight at all, they raked the little things somewhere, but they didn’t have time to influence anything.
    2. Germany lost World War I not at the front (not a single enemy stood on German soil), their economy crumbled, there was nothing to eat corny.
  11. +5
    19 March 2023 13: 58
    Quote from DMFalke
    What industrial countries did Hitler take? Agrarian flattery, which has mastered nothing but a 7-ton tank of the early 30s? The Czech Republic, which barely gave a few hundred tanks, obsolete by the end of the 41st. France.? In which, after the occupation, they did not really produce anything.


    The pre-war Czech Republic surpassed Italy in terms of industrial production.
    The Czech Republic produced a lot for the needs of the Wehrmacht.
    France produced mainly civilian products for the needs of the Reich, thanks to which the Reich was able to transfer previously civilian enterprises to the production of military products.
  12. +1
    19 March 2023 14: 03
    Quote: parusnik
    Like, Lenin, as a "German spy", gave everything to Ukraine and everything else. More, I will say, when a truce was concluded between the countries of the Entente and the Quadruple Union, there was such a point that the troops of this union should not be withdrawn from the territory of Soviet Russia .


    It was the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk and its consequences that led Germany to defeat. After its conclusion, part of the German divisions infected with the "plague of Bolshevism" were transferred from the Eastern Front to the Western, which led to an increase in revolutionary sentiment in the Reichswehr and, ultimately, the overthrow of Wilhelm and the surrender of Germany.
    1. 0
      20 March 2023 11: 28
      Quote: Illanatol
      ultimately, the overthrow of Wilhelm and the surrender of Germany.

      Which led to the imposition of reparations on Germany in gold, numerically exceeding the entire world gold mining the entire the history of mankind. Which inevitably led to rampant inflation, MFIs and collectors (of a certain nationality), and then to the Nazis coming to power, and to repression ..
  13. +1
    19 March 2023 14: 07
    If, instead of Russian comfreys, the Yankees had not arrived on the Old Continent to divide the European pie, Germany would have had good chances of winning.


    Germany would have had a chance of winning only in one case: if the Great October Revolution had not taken place in Russia, which resulted in revolutions in Germany and Austria-Hungary.
    The contribution of the Yankees to the victory of the Entente is minimal ... French generals rated the combat capability of American soldiers very low.
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  14. +2
    19 March 2023 18: 08
    What is the message of the article? The war will continue as long as Ukraine resists, it will resist as long as it is necessary for their sponsors
    The initiative belongs to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, because the resource intensity (manpower) is greater, at least the superiority in people was realized by the Ukrainian side and continues to support it, and the industrial countries will provide this manpower with means of warfare
    To the west of Ukraine is Poland, which is re-equipping its army, the profitability for industrialists and political leaders of the latter in no way cancels the possibility of using such an effective foreign policy lever for its intended purpose.
    1. 0
      20 March 2023 11: 33
      Quote: Materialist
      resource intensity (manpower) is greater, at least the superiority in people was realized by the Ukrainian side and

      In the rear of Ukraine there are from 3 to 5 million "refugees" who are threatened with deportation from Germany. Who have combat experience as part of organizations banned in the Russian Federation, and many have "personal accounts" of blood feud against the Russians after Syria. As soon as Europe sends this "cannon fodder" to Ukraine, almost all commentators here under the age of 50 will have to urgently sign up for Wagner in order to protect their own territory.
      PS I got into an unpleasant situation, at the end of the week I'm going to try to pass a physical training test at the Wagner recruiting center, because there is nowhere else to go. If they take it, there will be a chance to live further in their ranks.
      1. +2
        20 March 2023 13: 50
        The motivation of the refugees is a big question, and the threat directly to the "metropolis" can very much inflame and overheat the situation, the consequence can be both China's entry (in the form of supplying the Russian Armed Forces or even its own forces) and massive attacks of everything and everything that can be destroyed, and some defeatists among the political elites may take over, although this is unlikely
        Are you a former military man? Do you have any experience? Why Wagner in particular? As I understand it, they pay more there, but the Wagnerites have a greater risk, given that there are expendable assault groups there, who, as a rule, live less than necessary for the salary and the "elite" of tacticians
  15. +4
    19 March 2023 22: 03
    Peremoge with the drug president on the Yalta embankment with a fishing rod in his hands.


    In my opinion, this phrase perfectly characterizes the author, it seems that within a year the SVO should have realized that Zelensky is a serious opponent and a great politician, as it turned out, while from the Russian side Prigozhin looks the most adequate, who in his speeches extremely soberly assesses Ukraine without any " uryakolok".
  16. 0
    21 March 2023 16: 55
    Aims of the NWO? At least one Nazi in Ukraine was executed?. Was there a lustration of the authorities in the temporarily liberated territories? Russia's security improved?
    The impression is that, having announced the goals, they thought that "it will somehow be done by itself." Got a quote?
  17. 0
    22 March 2023 09: 45
    Quote: eule
    Which led to the imposition of reparations in gold on Germany, numerically exceeding the entire world gold mining in the entire history of mankind. Which inevitably led to rampant inflation, MFIs and collectors (of a certain nationality), and then to the Nazis coming to power, and to repression ..


    Well, who and with whose help strangled the German "October" of E. Thalmann and R. Luxembourg?
    By chance, not gentlemen liberals and democrats with the help of ... yes, yes, all the same "curators"?
    But if Germany went on the left course, the Second World War might not have happened.

    But it must be admitted that in the 20s the economic situation of Weimar Germany was very good, and in terms of growth rates it outperformed its winners.
    Despite all the reparations... and also thanks to loans and investments from the United States, fortunately their profitability exceeded the figures in the United States itself.
    The problems began after the start of the global crisis, known as the "Great Depression", which began again in the United States, but hit Germany hardest of all.
    In the early 30s, not only the Nazis, but also the Communists had good chances to gain power in Germany. Alas, the last option was blocked artificially, it is clear why, and by whom, again.

    The right came to power not only in Germany, but also in most European countries of the "young democracy", which were included in the so-called. "cordon sanitaire" (directed both against the USSR and against Germany).

    The fact that History has taken this path is, first of all, the merit of the global financial oligarchy, which made a very good profit out of all this (secured by the Bretton Woods agreements).
  18. 0
    22 March 2023 17: 39
    It is the same with the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, which Lenin honestly called "obscene" - Soviet Russia tore it apart very quickly, as soon as it began to win on the Civil fronts.


    Sorry, but that's not true.
    Russia did not break peace with the Germans.
    The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was canceled at Versailles in 1919 when Germany signed peace terms with the Entente.
    And according to Article 116 of the Treaty of Versailles, Germany recognized "the independence of all territories that were part of the former Russian Empire by August 1, 1914", and also annulled the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. The same article also recognized Russia's right to receive from Germany the corresponding part of the reparations.

    The Bolsheviks greatly welcomed the cancellation of the Brest peace treaty, and refused their share of reparations.
    https://finance.rambler.ru/other/40809644-pochemu-sssr-otkazalsya-vyplaty-reparatsiy-germanii-za-pervuyu-mirovuyu/
    Why did the USSR refuse to pay reparations to Germany for the First World War

    At the conference, the question of the external debt of tsarist Russia and the reparations due to Russia for the First World War came up. The Western powers were ready to recognize the right of Soviet Russia to receive reparations in exchange for its obligation to pay the debts of the tsarist government ...

    The deal looked good for Soviet Russia. The debt of the Russian Empire was 9 billion pre-revolutionary gold rubles. 1,3 billion rubles were worth foreign enterprises and assets confiscated by the Bolsheviks. A total of 10,3 billion rubles. However, instead of this, the amount of reparations from Germany, which Russia could count on, was estimated at 16 billion rubles.

    However, the delegation of the RSFSR, headed by People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs G.V. Chicherin, following Lenin's instructions, refused these proposals .... Why was this option chosen?
  19. -1
    23 March 2023 13: 22
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    Or even cooler - with "Leopards" in Moscow and even in the Urals. Zaluchny or Reznikov - characters who belong in Ward No. 6
    Why can't we defeat an army with such psychos at the head, for the second year already. Tired of these nonsense propaganda.
    No, not to the front, but to defense factories, where, they say, now they pay twice, or even three times more than before the SVO.
    Who is speaking? There are big doubts, only if top management (well, as usual). And the workers only have a reservation from mobilization.
    Of these, after the very first "retribution strikes", not sham, but real ones, and after the abandoned Kherson, General Surovikin was immediately pushed deeply.
    Well, that's funny. And if it had not been removed, Ukraine "sorry would have already asked" ?! I also forgot about Wagner's help from him - like there was Surovikin, there were shells, they removed it, no. And the fact that they are generally not enough, but who cares. The author is some kind of talker, at first I thought that Staver. Another question is what is worse, alarmism, or outright stupidity, a la Lieutenant Oak from Schweik.

    Is it definitely not enough in general? Or is there any other reason? Did you check it yourself or, like the author, are you "talking"? It's hard to believe "experts" like you, forgive my frankness.
  20. 0
    25 March 2023 01: 08
    Quote from: dmi.pris1
    Czech Republic and Slovakia.

    Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia. With the visit of Reinhard Heydrich
    " last time".