End of the project "Ukraine"

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End of the project "Ukraine"
Source: telegram channel "Tankists of the Southern Military District"


Finding the owner


Since the time of Bohdan Khmelnytsky, Russia, Poland, Turkey, Austria, Germany have been chosen for the role of the patron of "Ukrainophiles" (a narrow group of educated people who tried to build "Ukraine" on the site of Lesser, southwestern Rus'). Then the "lights of freedom and democracy" were added - England, France and the USA.



From the very beginning, the Western powers set as their goal the destruction of Russian civilization and the exclusion of the Russian world from the European stories. The priority goal in the destruction of Rus'-Russia in the West was considered the allocation of the southwestern part of the Russian world - "Ukraine" (Kiev, Galicia-Volyn, Chernigov-Severskaya and Lithuanian Rus', Novorossia and Little Russia). The split of a single super-ethnos of Russ-Russians, with the allocation of a kind of "new Poles" - Slavs, who fiercely hate their brothers.

If we take Tolkien's universe, its images, then the Ukrainians, who have forgotten that they are Russians, are “orcs”, corrupted, darkened elves. Playing off Russians with Russians, magnificent warriors, and thereby planting a terrible bomb under the entire Russian civilization and superethnos is a magnificent strategic move by the West, terrible in its consequences. Now, even with the complete denazification of "Ukraine", the consequences will have to be disentangled for decades, generations.

"Ukraine" stands out from the Russian world as a separate subject, although it remains Russian in language, culture and history (they are heavily distorted, but the foundation is still Russian). The Russian world is losing millions of people. The demographic potential of both Great (Great) Russia and Little Rus' is being undermined. The West economically, financially binds Little Rus' to itself. Getting a resource-rich colony. At the same time, Russian-Ukrainians become slaves of the Western world order, the younger generations are accepted as servants of the dying and degrading Western world. Ukrainian-Russians must dilute the waves of Arabs, blacks and Asians, giving the West more time.

Anti-Russia


At the same time, "Ukraine" is turning into a buffer anti-Russian state formation under the protectorate of the West - at one time it was the Austrian and German empires, the Third Reich, since 1991 - the United States, the collective West. The people of another generation live on the ruins of the Soviet (Russian) civilization, preserving the cultural and historical unity with the Russians who remained in the Russian Federation. And the Ukrainian elite, with the full ideological, informational, political, organizational and material support of the collective West, creates a "ram" aimed at destroying the entire Russian world.

The ideology of hatred, Ukrainian Nazism is nurtured. White becomes black and vice versa. Bandera killers and ghouls are turning into heroes. And the real heroes of the Russian Ukraine, the Ukrainian SSR, are turning into "occupiers and rapists." History is being rewritten. Create a Ukrainian myth. Russian and Soviet culture is being destroyed, replaced by Western and Bandera-Nazi surrogates. Young generations are being turned into Russian Janissaries - Russians by birth, language, but fiercely hating everything Russian. A kind of ukroreich is being created, but without the support of a nation that is rapidly dying out and fleeing, without an economy (only a “pipe” for the export of resources). Only ideology of hatred and death. Die, but kill the Russian.

At the same time, when the demographic, military potential of the "Ukraine", which was thrown into the attack on Greater Russia, is exhausted, then it will simply be mastered. In Poland, the project of creating a Polish empire - the Commonwealth, on the basis of Western Russian lands, has already been revived. That is, the Polish lords again lay claim to most of Belarus, Ukraine and Lithuania. This is a project for the future of Poland. Warsaw sees that the EU is doomed, it needs its own project, a plan for the future. This is a tracing-copy of the common Western project - a slave-owning world. There will be Polish lords - people of the first class, and Ukrainians - servants, slaves. Ukrainian peasants are already working as laborers in Poland and throughout Europe, serving their owners.

Therefore, Warsaw is literally building a full-fledged, large army, which, apparently, will go into battle when the human potential of Ukraine is exhausted. Already, thousands of Polish soldiers are fighting on the Ukrainian front. They plan to spend 4% of GDP on defense, which is twice the NATO standard. Country buys weapons by 117 billion dollars by 2035, and this is far from the limit. Against the backdrop of how the old Soviet and Western weapons are being used by the Ukroreich, Poland is buying hundreds of new Tanks, self-propelled guns, artillery systems, armored vehicles, aircraft and helicopters.

In turn, Hungary is step by step moving towards the absorption of the Carpathian region. And Romania dreams of "Greater Romania" - with Moldova, Transnistria and Odessa.

Ruina-2


The present and future of the southern branch of Rus-Russians is the saddest. The former prosperous Russian (Soviet) Ukraine-outskirts - the Ukrainian SSR, has become a battlefield of the Russian and Western worlds. The people, who were already dying out under the rule of thieves-oligarchs-plutocrats, are now simply being exterminated. Real genocide. The men are caught and sent to die in a fight with the same Russian guys. The security forces are still protected, but the police, the National Guard, border guards, state security workers, etc. are also just cannon fodder there. They will also bury him, they are already burying him. Women are next in line.

The active part of the population, young people are fleeing to the West. But there they will be just servants, serfs, claps. Children will be re-educated, possibly taken away. Within the framework of Western "values", where there is no father and mother, grandparents. Girls on a pole and in harems. In general, the demographic potential of Little Rus' has already been destroyed.

The economy is ruined. The battle, according to the instructions of the West and Kyiv, will continue until the last Ukrainian. There will simply be no one to work. Cities, towns, manufacturing and energy are being destroyed. No prospects for education, science and culture. Why are they slaves? This is Ruin 2. New wild field between Russia and the West.

The peasant-petty-bourgeois psychology "my hut is on the edge" this time will not save. Kyivans, Odessans, Kharkovites, Cossacks and other Russian Little Russians have a tail and a mane. Build how they want. It is forbidden to speak and think in the language of fathers and ancestors, they burn books, they make informers out of children. They throw you in prison for a "wrong" word. They catch people, and after 2-3 days of preparation they throw them into a meat grinder.

Why not? Have you endured since 1991 and after 2014? They aspired to a "bright future" in the form of the EU and NATO. They believed that Ukrainians are Europeans. As a result, they die at the front for Zelensky and Biden and other ghouls, capitalists and bankers. For the illusion that after the “victory” they will definitely be taken to the western paradise, that is, to Europe.

This is the end of the Ukraine project and the beginning of Ruina-2. Bloody retribution for the illusions of several generations.
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  1. +1
    17 March 2023 04: 57
    This is the end of the Ukraine project and the beginning of Ruina-2. Bloody retribution for the illusions of several generations.
    It would be better to say - "Amen!"
    1. +21
      17 March 2023 05: 06
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      "Amen!"

      A gloomy prospect .... But this is what is going on. And in this batch and we will get well. sad
      1. +31
        17 March 2023 06: 41
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        A gloomy prospect....


        The saddest thing is that we, the Russians, bear all the losses as a superethnos .... if we rewind time back to 2012, then according to our plans, the EAEU was supposed to form, but in a different configuration (Russia - Ukraine - Belarus + countries of the former CIS), the goal is to create an analogue of the EU and in the future to pull some of the European countries into our union, but with the intervention of the US / EU in 2014 and the coup in Kiev, all plans were violated ....

        Ukraine - 45 million sales market (for 2012) in cooperation with our resources and industry, could take its rightful place, people would have jobs, living standards would be many times better, and demographics would improve ....

        But as it turned out) the West, from the point of view of their interests, did the right thing, because. the goal is to rule everyone and pump resources from the colony, and if another competitor formed, then the resources would have to be shared, and this is a subsidence in the standard of living, loss of political / diplomatic influence, etc. ... so we got all the attention at that time (They did not consider China a competitor then).

        And after these events, I'm thinking... could we have done more? GDP in 2007 at the Munich Conference opposed Russia to the West, they say we will go our own way, but why did the processes of separation from the West take so long? After 2008 and Georgia, it was clear that the West was determined to resolve the Russian issue, and in 2014 (Ukraine), our government and the elite should have had an understanding of what kind of bomb it was and what it would lead to .... but they played too much, outwitted themselves - they entered into agreements that no one in the West planned to observe and did not plan). And this, I think, is a huge fault of the GDP and the current elite, if they had reacted in time and started rebuilding the country in 2008, then the story could have been different, or they would not have jumped on the rampage ahead of time, but would have done like the Chinese, who are with the West in they agreed to everyone, but they themselves slowly rebuilt the country, took away the levers of control from pro-Western circles and, in fact, informed the West ... perhaps we should have done this, but alas ... history went differently).
        1. +14
          17 March 2023 06: 58
          But the Anglo-Saxons could have done it differently .. Make a showcase from Ukraine, a model for our fifth and not only column. But no, they need to destroy the Russian people, which they do
          1. +10
            17 March 2023 07: 43
            Well, why the article? Some conclusions can be drawn only after the end of the SVO. Years of fighting ahead.
          2. +11
            17 March 2023 07: 56
            Quote from: dmi.pris1
            Make a showcase from Ukraine

            This meant investing a lot of money in the creation of some part of the Russian world, and not in its destruction!
            It's impossible for them! Yes, and risks - this world is located on the very border with us, and what if something then goes wrong and Russia unites with this pro-Western enclave ...
            1. -1
              17 March 2023 21: 34
              Quote from Arifon
              resolutely determined to solve the Russian question, and in 2014

              The dream of the Anglo-Saxons to destroy Russia, for many centuries.
              Lord Palmerston - "We cannot put up with the existence of such a large country (Russia), in the east of Europe.".
              He - "How bad it is to live when Russia is not at war with anyone."
              English intelligence officer R. Kipling - "the big game will end when everyone dies."
              The big game is naturally against Russia and we must die.
          3. +11
            17 March 2023 08: 07
            But the Anglo-Saxons could have done differently. To make a showcase from Ukraine, a model for our fifth and not only column.
            The big question is: Why would they do it? They have already created a showcase for the whole world and this is the showcase: USA! And so, in order for this showcase to remain as radiant and attractive to the whole world, the rest of it must pay for it. hi
          4. -8
            17 March 2023 09: 27
            Quote from: dmi.pris1
            But the Anglo-Saxons could have done it differently .. Make a showcase from Ukraine, a model for our fifth and not only column. But no, they need to destroy the Russian people, which they do

            Yes, they tried, and then Yanukovych got three billion dollars on hand and turned the wheel sharply 180 degrees. Abandoning the already prepared document on Association with the EU and starting integration in the other direction. Which naturally did not like the EU. And then let's go
            1. +13
              17 March 2023 11: 25
              Yanukovych received three billion dollars on hand and turned the wheel sharply 180 degrees ....

              It's funny that now these 3 lards seem like a completely ridiculous amount, compared to the current spending on Ukraine by both Russia and the West. Eh, miserly after all, our leadership is oligarchic. It was necessary to boldly give at least 20 lard, in tranches of 2 lard annually. Then the conditions could be set, for example: 2 state languages, federalization, etc. They missed the chance, now they will have to pay dozens of times more, and also with the lives of citizens. Still, the USSR had a much smarter foreign policy. And kirdyk shines with thieves in the power of Russia.
              1. +2
                18 March 2023 05: 11
                From all sides we hear conversations inside the country, such as:
                - Again, Russia is helping someone!
                - Himself khienovo!
                Ah, so it turns out!
                Should I have spent the money?
              2. 0
                19 March 2023 05: 19
                minimum 20 lard
                so after all, they planned to give 15 billion anyway, they gave 3, they would have given it, and so by that time this territory lived at the expense of Russia, and on the legacy of the USSR. No, they didn’t want to, they said we didn’t want to, and they wanted panties, they didn’t have panties on the panel to go ...
          5. +2
            17 March 2023 10: 11
            Make a showcase from Ukraine

            You cannot drive the inhabitants of a sparkling, well-fed and prosperous showcase to the slaughter with Russia. Then - the meaning of the West to do this?
            1. Eug
              +2
              18 March 2023 04: 55
              The meaning of the "showcase" is to show the Russians how they could live if Russia became pro-Western. America, and in Europe.
          6. Des
            +1
            17 March 2023 12: 36
            It is surprising that the "west" did not invest normally in Belarus. Here is the most profitable investment was money.
        2. +8
          17 March 2023 10: 47
          And this, I think, is a huge fault of the GDP and the current elite, if they had reacted in time ...

          Yeah, they don't even itch much. GDP generally lives in a parallel universe. Otherwise, he would have announced the mobilization of the economy. He probably thinks that the West is as kind and patient as the Russian people. And that this time it will "carry".
        3. +1
          17 March 2023 12: 38
          Quote: Aleksandr21
          GDP .... - ... we will go our own way ... but we played too much, outwitted ourselves

          Yes indeed, an "interesting" way. But where is the dead end to which Russia is moving, exercising its jurisdiction on the continental shelf, i.e. seabed (Article 67 of the Constitution) and acting in the exclusive economic zone in the same place (FZ 191 of 1998 as amended on 27.06.2018/01.01.2019/XNUMX, effective from XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX)? The jurisdiction of the Russian Federation does not apply to the territory in which we de facto live (on land). Maritime law is a funny thing. I wonder whether we will sink or rise?
        4. +1
          17 March 2023 23: 32
          Alexander21. That's right, you got it right. My idea is that in 2007 in Munich it was possible to play differently, more subtle, I would say in an oriental way (read: in Chinese). No, do not reject the idea that the dominance of the Anglo-Saxons is the way to the dead end of our civilization. No! Just don't force it. It could be a long game. Then we would definitely be able to keep from the direct confrontation of 2008, 2014 and beyond and better prepare for the fight on our terms. But, both the GDP itself and 70% of our elite could not, or did not want to play thinner. Now we have territorial acquisitions, which is important, but the aggressive cauldron of the entire west is actively working against us, in a completely overgrown version. Already The Hague, I write with contempt with a small letter, issued a warrant vus, also with a small letter, for the arrest of Putin. An anaconda loop, each time her opponent exhales, she compresses the ring of suffocation. These are the Anglo-Saxons, they are worse than the Nazis (well, or equal to them).
        5. +2
          18 March 2023 10: 32
          The lack of a clear understanding of their interests in the Russian Federation and terrible personnel errors affected. They themselves had the same complexes and desires as in UA. They are still not outdated.
        6. +1
          18 March 2023 11: 26
          stop idealizing china, that there are a lot of them, doesn’t mean anything in the modern world, all their inflating is just so that no one thinks about a war with china, but in fact there is nothing behind the walls of this bubble.
          and about our not being ready to confront, but this is nonsense! if they had not prepared, then the country would have collapsed long ago. in our country, 70% of the population did not even feel that a war had been going on for more than a year. turn off the TV, and there is no difference between how it was and how it is now.
          Stalin, I remember, was also accused of being unprepared. but unexpectedly, the plants transferred to the Urals and beyond the Urals began to work as soon as possible.
          there is no homogeneity in the perception of the struggle against the West among the population, in principle, and should not be, we are a free country (without irony) and have the right to think and express a point of view that does not coincide with the official one. (that is, we are still thinking) and that's good. the West and in particular Ukraine has lost this privilege to THINK. face result.
        7. 0
          26 March 2023 20: 01
          Alexander21 (Alexander). March 17, 2023 06:41 am. NEW - "...

          Quote: Uncle Lee
          A gloomy prospect....

          The saddest thing is that we, Russians, bear all the losses as a superethnos .... if you rewind time...

          And someone doubted .. No. ..Let's remember not so long ago:
          Zbigniew Brzezinski: "AGAINST RUSSIA, AT THE EXPENSE OF RUSSIA AND ON THE RUINS OF RUSSIA"
          The topic may be old, but not outdated until now ...
          ZBIGNIEW BRZHEZINSKI BROUGHT A NEW IDEA TO YAROSLAVL: "AGAINST RUSSIA, AT THE EXPENSE OF RUSSIA AND ON THE RUINS OF RUSSIA"

          - https://lina-001.livejournal.com/57671.html
          "..."Yaroslavl World Political Forum surprised and puzzled by inviting to it the figure, odious for Russia in all respects, Zbigniew Brzezinski, a former adviser to US President Carter on national security and a sworn enemy of Russia.- Valery Paliy, head of the New Union Initiative project, told an IA REX correspondent. love

          He recalls the most memorable "pearls" of the American political scientist, who advocated the collapse of the USSR and further loosening of the positions of our country, addressed to Russia:

          “Russia is a defeated power. She lost a titanic fight. And to say “it was not Russia, but the Soviet Union” means to run away from reality. It was Russia, called the Soviet Union. She challenged the US. She was defeated. Now there is no need to feed illusions about Russia being a great power. It is necessary to discourage such a way of thinking ... Russia will be fragmented and under guardianship. bully

          "A New World Order Under US Hegemony am created against Russia, at the expense of Russia and on the ruins of Russia.
          Incl. nothing new. This understood Alexander III:. remember his words - “Russia has no friends. They are afraid of our hugeness. Worldwide у we have only two true allies - our army and our navy. All the rest, at the first opportunity, will take up arms against us.”
      2. +4
        17 March 2023 07: 04
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        A gloomy prospect .... But this is what is going on. And in this batch and we will get well.

        And even so, there are not so many of us Slavs left in the world, not to mention the Russians, the basis of the Russian Empire and the USSR. Without a civil war, the population is dying out, and then war and migration will lead to the fact that in a hundred years we will simply disappear from our territory, just as the Cumans, Pechenegs and many other peoples who inhabited the territory where we still live have disappeared. The West strives for this, but as soon as Russia, Ukraine, Belarus disappear, then in ten years the whole of Europe, including Britain, will disappear (and the United States as a nation is no longer there, there is already one rabble)
        1. +1
          17 March 2023 22: 47
          @Carpenter: "Without a civil war, the population dies out..."

          What do you mean by this? The population will die out WITHOUT a civil war??? A civil war where? What population is it that will die out if there is no civil war?
      3. +5
        17 March 2023 10: 55
        And in this batch, we will get well.

        And how! To disentangle the people of Russia, as always. It is good if the leadership also suffers irreparable losses, both in manpower and in well-being. So that the new leaders calculate everything in advance, for decades. The people were treated with respect.
        1. 0
          19 March 2023 08: 59
          Treat people with respect

          There is such a quality in a leader that when he receives a briefcase and sits in a chair, he forgets why he is sitting there, the people for him are the rector's office, which will have enough pasta ...
    2. 0
      19 March 2023 15: 19
      Why not say Amen now?
      Amen is "To be and be!", "To be to be!", i.e. confirmed..
  2. +6
    17 March 2023 05: 29
    The millstones of history have been launched, everything will pass through them. Only here the result will be different. Someone in dust, dust. Someone will break. Units will come out whole, and even a few teeth will be knocked out of the mill.
    So the question is where will we be. Where can our leadership lead us? Though it might be phrased differently. "How will creatively effective managers ultimately solve the problem set by management"
    We already feel how they implemented the reforms. How CBO support was implemented is also discussed a lot. Let us hope for the best ???
  3. +20
    17 March 2023 06: 06
    The same "idea" that makes fools write the word "Russia" on the backs of jackets - - in Latin, like the names of settlements on their roads. Rejoice at foreign cars instead of "soviet Zhiguli.", Perceive the shame of backwardness as "imported achievements that were not in the USSR with its galoshes"., ....

    The Chinese were also happy with their galoshes because they managed to make them themselves! And then we learned more.

    .Yeah, .. servile shit in the heads is enough everywhere. And at all levels. But in Ukraine it has accumulated especially much. There it became the main "national idea" .... They found their own ideology.

    And in our country, it was formed in the form of anti-Sovietism and hatred for the "scoop", also as a proprietary state stigma.
    1. +17
      17 March 2023 06: 37
      And in our country, it was formed in the form of anti-Sovietism and hatred for the "scoop"
      Don’t you find that something unites them and us? Anti-Sovietism, hatred for the “scoop”? But they completely renounced the Soviet past there, we don’t quite, the Great Patriotic War holds, a brace. We unhook this brace and become the same.
      1. +10
        17 March 2023 07: 02
        Note that the generations that come after us already treat the Great Patriotic War with coolness. And this is putting it mildly. Yes, and the USSR too
        1. +12
          17 March 2023 10: 15
          Note that the generations that come after us already treat the Great Patriotic War with coolness. And this is putting it mildly. Yes, and the USSR too

          The whole question is the desire of the state .. Avon Bolsheviks - in just 20 years they managed to educate several million staunch communists. From the poor, illiterate population ..
          1. +8
            17 March 2023 14: 06
            Avon Bolsheviks - in just 20 years they managed to educate several million staunch communists.
            And now, millions of consumers have been brought up. "Do it, money! Do it, money! Everything else is rubbish!" "And it is unlikely that anything will happen" (c)
    2. +14
      17 March 2023 08: 00
      "The same "idea" that makes fools write the word "Russia" on the backs of jackets - - in Latin..." Yeah, and one more thing - the word Patriot on UAZ vehicles for the domestic market ...
    3. 0
      19 March 2023 09: 20
      And in our country, it was formed in the form of anti-Sovietism and hatred for the "scoop"

      Saying "with us", you identify all citizens with such a position, saying "with us" it would be necessary to specify, "with us" is who, the leadership of the state, the citizens of Russia, or those who destroyed the USSR and contributed to this in every possible way ?
      I personally have a negative attitude towards anti-Sovietism and do not feel hatred for the Soviet past ... I voted for the preservation of the USSR, and when the EBN, the so-called president, was elected, I never voted for him ...
  4. +4
    17 March 2023 07: 49
    I remember the last time Yanukovych and Putin took the parade in Sevastopol in 2013 and why did we go there then, we still didn’t see anything, then it seemed the power in Ukraine was unshakable, and the worms were already working, the Nazis were flourishing, Yanyk with one hand Bander fed and the other signed the contract with us, everything suited everyone. The Americans relaxed and staged a Maidan, and all that was necessary was to take action in time.
    1. 0
      17 March 2023 17: 56
      For the sake of justice, with the Maidan they didn’t turn out the way they wanted, they had to force things. The idea was outrageously simple - Vitya Vshivy signs an association with the European Union, the welfare of the population is falling, Russia is blamed for everything and Vitya Vshivy personally, attacks on the military personnel and members of their families of the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea begin .... and the Maidan begins demanding a break in relations with Russia , against the Black Sea Fleet in the Crimea .... The Nazis were already ready for this, Vshivy himself, through his stupidity, sponsored them. At the last moment, Vshivyy stopped his "trip to Europe", realized that he was just a sacrificial ram. But this did not help him, but Russia managed to return the Crimea.
      1. Eug
        +2
        18 March 2023 05: 06
        Everything was somewhat different - Yanukovych agreed with China on "joint" projects, as a result, 2 million Chinese male builders (!) were to appear in Crimea. Plus Motor Sich and several (they called figures from 3 to 17) million hectares of agricultural land. For some reason, the Chinese vector of Ukraine's development went unnoticed..
  5. -10
    17 March 2023 07: 50
    We will not let Ukraine disappear from the world map. Federal Ukraine will be part of a single union state - Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. In what borders it will remain - Ukrainians themselves will answer this question in referendums, but it will definitely be.
    1. +7
      17 March 2023 09: 44
      And who is this "we"? When a person speaking on his own behalf uses the plural "we", then it's like "We, by the grace of God Kolchak, wish to sit on the royal throne ..." He also raved like that.
    2. +2
      17 March 2023 11: 43
      We will not let Ukraine disappear from the world map. Federal Ukraine will be part of a single union state...

      This is better than a "banderozapovednik" within the borders of the Russian Federation. And before you put a minus, ask yourself a question: are you personally ready to go to the VNA to manage and control the territories newly annexed to Russia? Together with family?
      One amendment - Ukraine, as a union republic, should be called differently, and not have any continuity with the old one. Little Russia, Ukrainian SSR - not so important. And they also need their own "Stalin", from the locals. There are such people, and they are already ready to uproot the nationalist and pro-European weed, to luster everyone who has been in power for these 30 years. These people will be even more merciless towards the enemies of Russia than we Russians.
  6. +3
    17 March 2023 08: 01

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  7. +4
    17 March 2023 08: 01
    End of the project "Ukraine"


    Is it like the message “What did you write a year ago” pop up on social networks?
    1. +2
      17 March 2023 13: 00
      Foreigners already have nothing to eat, without our turnips and fertilizers, and you all giggles and hahanki.
      Our crop is over the top!
      Here is a direct quote:

      https://youtu.be/JD7trJz4JYY
      1. 0
        17 March 2023 23: 56
        Wildcat, I don't understand you? Europeans have nothing to eat?! Have you been there for a long time?
        1. -1
          18 March 2023 01: 21
          Quote: Glagol1
          Wildcat, I don't understand you? Europeans have nothing to eat

          sarcasm tag.
  8. +1
    17 March 2023 08: 03
    to begin with, in order to at least somehow rub one's eyes, one must remember about the thousands of times heard from Russians that Ukrainians are brothers to Russians, but more than once not heard from Ukrainians that Russians are brothers to Ukrainians.
    Yes, in Soviet times, when they elevated not only dynamite under the foundations of the Russian state, a similar phenomenon as the Decembrists, but also a no less dangerous phenomenon under the foundations of the Soviet state as the notorious dogma about the friendship of the peoples of the USSR, then forcibly political political balabols and the same ones at party congresses flooded with nightingales about true internal policy of the USSR. But it is precisely the likeness of those whom today he calls Agents of Foreign Influence, and the communists in the USSR idolized them as Decembrists, the likeness of these just in 1991 undermined the state system of the Soviet Union and not one political officer took a machine gun to protect this state system. there was someone, because the friendship of the peoples of the USSR turned out to be fiction and pseudoscience, and it fled like dry sand through the fingers when the fist was unclenched.
    So, it's all about the fist. Such a fist was in power from the time of Ivan the Terrible to the time of Nicholas II, and no one whined about some kind of friendship between peoples. There was no need. Kazan and all sorts of others there, Kyiv, Minsk and Vilna were provincial cities of Russia, and it was not Catherine's whip or Muravyov's rope loop that kept this fist of the state clenched. This , and the whip and noose , was an alternative to the future Stalinist wall for Agents of Foreign Influence and enemies of the people . But then the liberal-Westernist Nicholas II appeared, then Lenin and the fist were unclenched and the state "flowed". It was then that the Great Stalin again gathered him and clenched him into one single fist, but somehow he also didn’t hear that during Stalin’s rule at all corners would shout every day about this friendship of peoples. Was it Stalin's mistake that after the Second World War he did not abolish the Soviet Republics and did not transform them into the provinces of the Russian Federation, an important question. Most likely, then we would all still live in a single state within the borders of the USSR in 1946 and there would be no need to decide any projects "Ukraine" ...
    1. 0
      17 March 2023 15: 18
      Quote: north 2
      but not once heard from Ukrainians that Russians are brothers to Ukrainians.

      So you are not listening to those Ukrainians. Look and listen to the same Semchenko ...
  9. +6
    17 March 2023 08: 17
    Ukraine will perish, and Russia will be reborn, once again it will rise from its knees and the peoples will be drawn to it. no generation has grown.
    1. +4
      17 March 2023 08: 28
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      But that's the problem, for 30 years ... not a single generation has grown up ..

      Yes, we have almost lost one generation, but the rest are still alive. The Lost Generation is not so bad. The process is reversible. Look how young people, including those from the "lost", are fighting for their homeland in the NWO, no worse than our grandfathers in the Second World War.

      ps
      One generation = 25 years.
  10. -3
    17 March 2023 09: 01
    Quote: Boris55
    We will not let Ukraine disappear from the world map. Federal Ukraine will be part of a single union state - Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. In what borders it will remain - Ukrainians themselves will answer this question in referendums, but it will definitely be.


    Hardly.
    Part of the so-called. Ukraine will become part of the Russian Federation, the rest - let it float freely, as long as it does not create problems for us. Having a neutral buffer state between us and Europe is not bad at all.
    Well, let the stubborn banderlogs be found in the most western regions, in the analogue of Kosovo, mini-Ukraine-Banderlogia, reveling in their independence.
    If only we had no common borders with them.
    1. -2
      17 March 2023 12: 12
      Illanatol, "free floating" - we don't need it. We need a police state under the protectorate of Russia.
      Ideally: Kharkiv, Odessa, Zaporozhye, Krivoy Rog, Dnepropetrovsk... The East is part of Russia. Kyiv with adjacent regions, and everything to the west, including Lvov, is part of the Ukrainian SSR, or whatever it will be called there. There, in the future, maybe other countries will join the Union. It is necessary to set a global task, with an eye on the centuries! :)
  11. +1
    17 March 2023 09: 15
    Another 500005 explanation of black as white...
    It is worth comparing this photo and the photo of Grozny in the XNUMXs ...
  12. -3
    17 March 2023 10: 04
    What an end. Our leadership from the very beginning was not opposed to the truce, and now too. The conditions will be met (demilitorization and denazification), and maybe even we will not be against Ukraine in NATO, but without weapons.
  13. +8
    17 March 2023 10: 04
    It is clear what the "Western reliable partners" did and what they are doing now. They are guilty without a doubt. And what did the authorities of the Russian Federation do to prevent the transformation of Ukraine into a field for the destruction of the Rus over the past 30 years? What such successes in foreign policy ensured the peaceful reunification of a single people divided by political borders between the three countries of the Russian Federation, Belarus and Uzbekistan? Or was there no success? Or how? And what is being done by the Russian authorities now for the speedy victorious end of the conflict? Grain deal, transit of raw materials, subordination to the IMF, WHO, WTO?
    The root of the problems will have to be sought within the country. Otherwise... the living will envy the dead...
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  14. +1
    17 March 2023 10: 31
    What is the conclusion from all this? Yes, such that this year we have to reach Lvov. Every day of "standing in the Donbass" costs us too much. And the clock is ticking. The West is gradually resuming the production of ammunition.
    What to do? Translate the economy on a war footing, urgently. Mobilize another 500-800 thousand, if not by conscription, then from among the security forces. All this is obvious. Only the "guarantor" has not yet reached. He needs to pour a canister of cold water over his head. If it does not help, then either to a mental hospital, or under investigation.
  15. +5
    17 March 2023 10: 45
    From the very beginning, the Western powers set as their goal the destruction of Russian civilization and the erasure of the Russian world from European history.

    Maybe it's worth analyzing the 30-year history of the failure of our policy?
    1. +2
      17 March 2023 12: 13
      Now for such words you can thunder under some article:

      “The constant nodding to foreign countries as the source of all our troubles is wrong. Wrong in essence. And all our troubles are in ourselves, everything stems from our own carelessness and weakness. Here, wherever you go, we have Chechnya everywhere. And not only in the North Caucasus... Figuratively speaking, right? In our economy, stick your head in, there is trouble and sheer grief. Look at our international relations, well, our relations with the very near abroad. We have some kind of gaping hole everywhere - a problem ”
  16. +1
    17 March 2023 10: 54
    What is frightening is not that the West is trying to destroy the Russian world (it has been trying to do this for hundreds of years), but the fact that it is learning from its mistakes, constantly studying us and trying different approaches.
    As for me, the West cannot understand only one thing - the thinking of a Russian person, and therefore is trying to replace it by "brainwashing" and working with our government and children (they are not interested in an ordinary adult). It's sad that they're starting to get...
  17. +2
    17 March 2023 12: 10
    From the very beginning, the Western powers set as their goal the destruction of Russian civilization and the erasure of the Russian world from European history.


    Again, the “political instructor” drove into the “collective farm”, the Western powers (if we are talking about France, Spain, England) first of all fiercely fought among themselves and tried to destroy each other, at one time the English language in England was generally banned and officially spoke in French, they were less interested in the Russian backyards, rather Russia was trying to participate in the European revelry.

    For the sake of interest, look at the history of European wars, everyone fought against everyone for hundreds of years.
  18. +7
    17 March 2023 14: 08
    Quote: MBRBS
    Ideally: Kharkiv, Odessa, Zaporozhye, Krivoy Rog, Dnepropetrovsk... (to the extreme, only regions, and everything to the west, including Lviv, is part of the Ukrainian SSR, or whatever it will be called there. There may be others in the future countries will join the Union.We need to set a global task, with an eye on the centuries! :)


    Sorry, but I prefer realism, not Manilovism, empty dreams.
    In order for the Ukrainian SSR to appear, it is necessary, first, to turn the Russian Federation into the RSFSR.
    I don't see any objective prerequisites for something like this in the foreseeable (15-20 years) perspective.
    Therefore, both the Ukrainian SSR and the USSR-2 - I consider it practically unrealizable.
    And what will happen in centuries ... I see no reason to discuss in the present. Let the science fiction writers do it.
  19. -4
    17 March 2023 14: 50
    Quote from Arifon
    "The same "idea" that makes fools write the word "Russia" on the backs of jackets - - in Latin..." Yeah, and one more thing - the word Patriot on UAZ vehicles for the domestic market ...

    And what's wrong with that?, like everyone understands ...
  20. +2
    17 March 2023 14: 53
    Quote: MBRBS
    What is the conclusion from all this? Yes, such that this year we have to reach Lvov. Every day of "standing in the Donbass" costs us too much. And the clock is ticking. The West is gradually resuming the production of ammunition.
    What to do? Translate the economy on a war footing, urgently. Mobilize another 500-800 thousand, if not by conscription, then from among the security forces. All this is obvious. Only the "guarantor" has not yet reached. He needs to pour a canister of cold water over his head. If it does not help, then either to a mental hospital, or under investigation.

    Put all military pensioners under the age of 80 under arms, by the way, they are quite active and militant, and the equipment in storage is familiar to them.
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  22. -3
    17 March 2023 15: 07
    In the history of Ukraine-Little Russia, this is not the first Ruin. As the state of Ukraine failed again, there can be no state based on physiological hatred of its neighbors.
    Then it will be as it always was, the top of Ukronazism will inevitably fall, the population will have only one choice - reunification with Russia. Ukrainians will quickly change their shoes and become Russians.
    Some of the zombified Nazis will hide in the caches and will do dirty tricks until they are destroyed. In my opinion, you should not repeat the mistakes of the past, non-human Nazis are incorrigible.
  23. +2
    17 March 2023 15: 42
    And again, the animal has not yet fallen, but the skin is already marked.
    1. 0
      17 March 2023 22: 08
      Quote from AdAstra
      And again, the animal has not yet fallen, but the skin is already marked.
      Everything is as usual, the division of the skin of an unkilled raccoon continues ... lol
    2. 0
      21 March 2023 10: 49
      The animal fell in 2014, when the Ukronazis began to kill their peaceful fellow citizens in Lugansk and Donbass, bombarding residential areas of cities. And now this undead is decomposing and stinks all over Europe.
  24. +3
    17 March 2023 17: 28
    Looks a bit like propaganda. Everything is mixed in a heap, gamno with a cake. Even the fact that all Ukrainian girls will become prostitutes. I think not all. Yes, and not all of the mobilized Armed Forces soldiers get to the front line after 2-3 days of training. And why then ours are bogged down and not moving forward. I urge you to think realistically and not to forget that the whole West is helping Ukraine and that Russia will have a hard time and that 2023 will be harder than 2022.
  25. 0
    17 March 2023 18: 21
    To save themselves, Ukrainians must go over to the side of Russia, as their ancestors did under Bogdan Khmelnytsky. There is no other way! The United States is simply destroying the population of Ukraine, sending thousands of Ukrainians to the slaughter every day with the help of Zelensky.
  26. +9
    17 March 2023 21: 06
    Quote: Aleksandr21
    Quote from Uncle Lee
    A gloomy prospect....


    The saddest thing is that we, the Russians, bear all the losses as a superethnos .... if we rewind time back to 2012, then according to our plans, the EAEU was supposed to form, but in a different configuration (Russia - Ukraine - Belarus + countries of the former CIS), the goal is to create an analogue of the EU and in the future to pull some of the European countries into our union, but with the intervention of the US / EU in 2014 and the coup in Kiev, all plans were violated ....


    Forgive me, of course, but I’m just wondering: how was the EAEU supposed to be marked in such a way that it could even pull European countries over to itself? Maybe some goods or services?

    Here the USSR really served as a beacon for almost half of the countries of the world. But the USSR had something to attract other countries - Soviet space, socialism, a high level of education, Soviet science, great culture, a strong army with advanced weapons.

    And what does the EAEU have besides the Russian boobs with cheap energy?
  27. 0
    17 March 2023 22: 00
    The article is agitprop, meaningless and merciless (as often happens with this author)!
  28. +2
    17 March 2023 22: 16
    This is the end of the Ukraine project and the beginning of Ruina-2. Bloody retribution for the illusions of several generations.
    This is retribution for the betrayal of power in several generations. Or could we influence the activities of the same Andropov? Guys should not be blamed with a sore head. The venal, comprador, non-professional government, under the leadership of Jewish bankers and Anglo-Saxons, staged a genocide of the population of the Russian world, which turned into a hot stage, and now it is also saturating the territory of Russia with Asian nationalists, killing, raping, robbing again the population of the Russian world. Yes, even thousands go out to peting against the importation of migrants, the result will be the arrest and landing of the protesters. So there at the top, they don’t learn anything and strictly follow the manuals of the American regional committee.
    1. +2
      18 March 2023 10: 36
      Not several, but many generations of Ukrainians fought on our side - on the side of the Russian people and Russia. Previously, in all, IN ALL the big wars of the past, the vast majority of Ukrainians who fought fought for us.
      The betrayal is that some in the top leadership of the Russian Federation did nothing to prevent the transition of Ukraine under the control of the enemy, and the transformation of the whole state into an anti-Russian and Russophobic puppet.
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  30. +1
    18 March 2023 00: 37
    Oh well what are you!
    I really want good (albeit virtual) news, however ...
    Just reformatting the project into the Korean version.
    And I would like to hope that not until the construction of the South Korean economy on the remnants of Ukraine, after the truce - I hope the Ukrainians remaining there will not allow this with Ukraine.
    And so - according to a more realistic, but more pessimistic forecast - hello to NATO from all sides!
  31. +1
    18 March 2023 00: 48
    Quote: MBRBS
    Yanukovych received three billion dollars on hand and turned the wheel sharply 180 degrees ....

    It's funny that now these 3 lards seem like a completely ridiculous amount, compared to the current spending on Ukraine by both Russia and the West. Eh, miserly after all, our leadership is oligarchic. It was necessary to boldly give at least 20 lard, in tranches of 2 lard annually. Then the conditions could be set, for example: 2 state languages, federalization, etc. They missed the chance, now they will have to pay dozens of times more, and also with the lives of citizens. Still, the USSR had a much smarter foreign policy. And kirdyk shines with thieves in the power of Russia.

    In fact, this was the first tranche of the 15 billion we promised. And he was promised because even then Yanukovych had nothing to pay pensions. Issued, however, when the situation in the country was unclear, that's where the mistake is. It was necessary to set conditions for Yanukovych: after the stabilization of the situation, otherwise in real life it turned out that we had already thrown these three lards to Turchinov and Yatsenyuk.
    Here I agree - not a smart foreign policy, on the contrary. And financial too.
  32. +3
    18 March 2023 00: 59
    The author, before publishing such "research" of his own and somehow drawing conclusions, should have figured out geography, history and demography! For we read this:
    In turn, Hungary is step by step moving towards the absorption of the Carpathians
    Hungary had nothing to do with the Carpathians, does not have and does not pretend to!!! Do not confuse the Carpathians with Transcarpathia (where there really is a Hungarian interest) - these are completely different regions, albeit neighboring ones!
  33. Eug
    +1
    18 March 2023 04: 34
    Uv. Mr. Samsonov, there is a good Ukrainian proverb - "ne kazhy" gop ", docks are not pereskochysh" is "don't say".), . And it’s not worth engaging in hat-throwing - once it has already turned into a so-called "regrouping" ..
  34. +3
    18 March 2023 07: 05
    The author brings some kind of blizzard, but does not speak at all about the true reasons - economic ones.
    Why do Ukrainians need the so-called. "Russian world", when is Europe near?
    And she's much richer!
    Cola, gum, Snickers!
    The history of the USSR is repeating itself, they also ran after jeans and Pepsi ...
    Ideology is secondary here.
    1. -2
      18 March 2023 15: 08
      You're right. There is no ideology in the West, there is a cult of consumption for cattle. Ideology is always remembered when they do not understand the essence of things and how the world works. They want to go to Europe for the same reason that villages all over the world are dying out, in the city you can work less and relax more. Although I do not understand the same nanny and in Russia you can earn good money, no less than in the same Sicily, without learning the language.
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    1. +2
      18 March 2023 16: 14
      Who could best destroy the USSR, except for Russia itself. No one from the West has done anything for this ... It is best to watch a film about Pinocchio and the song of the fox Alice and the blind cat. You don’t need a knife for a fool, you sing along a little and he will do everything himself. And where were you before when the USSR was still alive! Incite a fool to pray so he will smash everything around him with his forehead.
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  37. -1
    18 March 2023 19: 45
    According to the theory of haplogroups, everything that is located west of the Dnieper is fiercely hated by the Slavs ..... Why should the population west of the Dnieper and to the ocean be disposed of. To begin with, to clear the territory west of the Dnieper along the borders of the Soviet Union from the industrial potential of high-quality port bridges and the like, according to the precepts of the unforgettable father Makhno, only free horses and people should walk there .... Let the land be plowed and enough from them
    1. +1
      18 March 2023 21: 27
      Quote: Rinat Khametov
      According to the theory of haplogroups, everything that is located west of the Dnieper

      http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Data/Map_haplogroups.jpg
      Just look at the map at the link and mentally draw the Dnieper.
      And don't talk nonsense about haplogroups. Or give at least one source telling that different haplogroups dominate on different banks of the Dnieper.
      Population genetics and ideology differ from each other even more than astronomy from astrology.
  38. +1
    18 March 2023 21: 19
    It is difficult for a westerner to find the differences and similarities of russian and "Ukrainian" languages. I would be very pleased if someone could say something on the matter. Thanks in advance.
  39. +2
    18 March 2023 21: 46
    Shaw? Again? A year ago it was
    This is the end of the project "Ukraine" and the beginning
  40. 0
    19 March 2023 10: 40
    And this, I think, is a huge fault of the GDP and the current elite, if they had reacted in time and started rebuilding the country in 2008, then the story could have been different, or they would not have jumped on the rampage ahead of time, but would have done like the Chinese, who are with the West in they agreed to everyone, but they themselves slowly rebuilt the country, took away the levers of control from pro-Western circles and, in fact, informed the West ... perhaps we should have done this, but alas ... history went differently).
    With such an "elite" we did not have, and will not have, any other way than the way down. The tactics - "we have oil and gas - we will buy the rest" turned out to be obviously flawed and even treacherous. And this was understood by many, but not our so-called. ,, elite ". I just want to exclaim together with Taras Bulba, referring to our tops - ,, What, son, did your Poles help you?". In the last television address, Putin complained for about 40 minutes that he was again deceived. And this is our "elite" ?! And what did you want, that they would feed you with buns and kiss your anus? That they would open their arms and joyfully accept them into the family of European peoples? believe, or a stupid person, because it is enough to open any history textbook to understand that the West comes here to rob and kill, or rather, first kill and then rob and they don’t need any Russians in their fraternal family of peoples, but they need slaves and resources, and these very slaves will extract and pump these very resources to the West under the supervision of the Masters. This is elementary, Watson! And this has long been known, almost since the time of Tsar Pea ... when the Pope announced a crusade against Russia there, I don't remember... And a little more about the quality of our "elite".'' Throughout the entire post-Soviet history, the power of Russia selflessly devoted itself to robbery and the destruction of the inheritance inherited from the USSR, however, the same thing happened in the republics of the former USSR, with rare exceptions. She has no time yes, it was necessary to create neither pro-Russian elites within the national republics, nor at least an attractive image for the neighbors, so that they themselves wanted to return under the wing of Russia, no, they had to have time to get drunk before they were taken away ... Got drunk? Have you taken away the bins on offshore? Did everyone manage to buy cottages and yachts? And now you are turning to the robbed people, they say, help, they are robbing! Let's unite, merge in ecstasy with the oligarchs ..! Ukraine had to be dealt with in the first place and not when the rooster pecked, but back in the 90s, when Ukronazism began to raise its head ... This also applies to the rest of the post-Soviet republics, all of them, sooner or later, the West (and maybe China), will be used as a battering ram against Russia.
    The article talks a lot about Western policy towards Ukraine, but where is our policy? And what about the policy towards other outskirts of the former empire? Kremlin, give me an answer... - No answer...
  41. 0
    19 March 2023 11: 30
    Maybe the Russian world is losing millions of people, but these are people infected with the Bandera virus and this virus cannot be treated, it must be destroyed (denazified), this is a kind of purification of the Russian Slavs, and from this point of view, the NWO is good. By the way, I agree with the author that the people living on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR were hired as vassals to anyone, but every time they always chose a richer and stronger owner and in the near future they will betray another owner (Western world). Even ethnic Russians in the Sumy, Kharkiv, Nikolaev regions have acquired Polish hatred for the Russians and are ready to die for the Bandera idea, in fact they have become more Bandera-like than the Western population of the independent. It's just that Russia should know this and understand the hypocrisy of this population.
  42. 0
    19 March 2023 13: 31
    Is there any evidence of these thousands of Polish soldiers?
  43. 0
    20 March 2023 10: 55
    Do not rush to bury anyone. For starters, it would be nice to completely break up the enemy army and make it impossible to provide it from any EU and other trash. Then you can talk about all sorts of ends
  44. 0
    20 March 2023 16: 39
    It is also necessary to designate for ourselves - which countries (we have across the border from the former republics of the USSR) did not take place in the same way. In order not to step on the same rake as in 404. Immediately after the story with 404, you need to actively resolve issues with neighbors. Countries like Armenia and Kyrgyzstan are potential sources of instability. Maybe Kazakhstan.