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The new adviser to the Minister of Defense was Maria Kitaeva.

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The new adviser to the Minister of Defense was Maria Kitaeva.

In the team of the Minister of Defense, another new man appeared. By order of Sergei Shoigu, Maria Kitaeva was appointed adviser to the head of the military department.

In the building on Znamenka she will move from the administration of the Moscow region. When Shoigu was the governor, Kitaeva was with him an adviser on information policy with the status of a regional minister. Staying in this capacity turned out to be short for Kitaeva - from June to November of this year. Now the holder of diplomas of two prestigious universities - MGIMO and the Russian Academy of Theatrical Arts - has to get used to a completely new military environment for her.

Kitaeva is no stranger to unexpected career turns. Judging by the events of recent years, they have become its constant companions. At first, when a young diplomat and actress got a job as a host for the Russia-24 TV channel. Later - when Kitaev was invited to work with the governor of the Moscow region. Now she is an adviser to the Minister of Defense.

According to Kitaeva, she will not deal with the information policy of the department. This function was left behind by another advisor to Shoigu - Tatiana Zavyalova. The official decided not to make her official duties public until their official approval. She only said that the tasks in the Ministry of Defense would be different from those in the administration of the Moscow region. She also mentioned her numerous plans for the upcoming work.
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  1. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 21 November 2012 20: 20
    +26
    What a sympathetic! love
    1. bask
      bask 21 November 2012 20: 25
      0
      Graeme number 2 soldier ?????
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 22 February 2018 07: 53
        +9
        Really Kozhugetovich does not understand that in the eyes of the people such young, cute “advisers” only drop his authority as the Minister of Defense of Russia - they stain his reputation ?!
        What can she teach him?
        1. Vladimir Postnikov
          Vladimir Postnikov 28 October 2018 16: 10
          0
          What is he, not a man, or what? An ordinary person, a construction superintendent by education. Do not sculpt God out of him. He just at the right time, accidentally ended up in the right place. It’s the same with Vladimir Putin. It’s time to replace them a long time ago, but they object.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 21 November 2012 20: 27
      +2
      Thank you for taking my photo from another topic))
      1. YARY
        YARY 21 November 2012 21: 32
        +1
        ????? HOW TO A PHOTO ???? !!!!
      2. valokordin
        valokordin 21 November 2012 21: 46
        +1
        I wonder why the comment was deleted?
        1. sv-sakh
          sv-sakh 22 November 2012 04: 42
          +13
          Glamorous :)
          Do Mo prepares bedding for NATO?
          Will our troops rape a potential enemy to death? wassat
          Burn fire in this country, if the mind of the elite does not wake up ...
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 22 November 2012 09: 04
            +21
            Quote:.
            The official decided not to publicize her new duties until they were officially approved.


            As far as I know, Kitaeva will shape the image of Shoigu. Only what the hell the image of the Minister of War should form clowns, it is not clear
            1. military
              military 22 November 2012 09: 55
              +12
              Quote: Vadivak
              As far as I know, Kitaeva will shape the image of Shoigu. Only what the hell the image of the Minister of War should form clowns, it is not clear

              And Kozhugetovich, a campaign, is also a lover of surrounding himself with skirts ... belay
              "... left behind another adviser Shoigu - Tatiana Zavyalova."
              now he will disperse the remaining stools and pick up his "headset" ... recourse
              "image advisor" ... very interesting ... winked although it is quite understandable ... well, the man lacks this very "image", even though you crack! so I found the one that will correct him ... feel for this "image", however, there is a risk of raking a bottle in the skull at some get-together (history remembers such embarrassment), but this is already "the cost of the profession" ... feel
              it is unclear, another ... what *** should taxpayers support only the federal official himself, but also his entire cohort of "advisers" and "image makers"? ... recourse
            2. Nickname
              Nickname 22 November 2012 10: 06
              +13
              Yes, surely behind her back some serious daddy is making her career.
              Nope we will not have order in the sun
              1. alexdol
                alexdol 24 November 2012 09: 00
                +3
                NikNik RU "Nope, we won't have order in the Armed Forces"
                It seems like ... Well, which of her adviser? Nonsense...
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 22 February 2018 07: 31
                  +2
                  !
                  Quote: alexdol
                  Well, which of her adviser?
                  ХА1 How is it which? Yuboshny!
                  These are the “advisers” in the West in NATO countries and then become the country's defense ministers!

                  All this is very similar to the liberal pro-Western profanity in the Russian Defense Ministry1
            3. Tjumenec72
              Tjumenec72 27 November 2012 07: 32
              +1
              And if the image maker would be a fagot? was better
              Who do you think could even be in this place - a military man ???

              WE WILL LOOK
            4. Hefty literate
              Hefty literate 20 October 2018 06: 45
              0
              And the formation of the image of Shoigu by this lady has already begun. Since her appointment. Just what image?
              1. Vladimir Postnikov
                Vladimir Postnikov 28 October 2018 16: 00
                -1
                In the late sixties I heard peasants talking about the war in the bathhouse. I remembered from there one folklore gem: "Vanka for the attack - ... in ....., and Manka for ..... - Krasnaya Zvezda."
                This is folklore. Like someone or not, but he will always exist, as long as people are alive.
                Need to know him? I think that is necessary.
            5. Yura
              Yura 21 October 2018 10: 33
              +1
              [quote = Vadivak] As far as I know Kitaeva will shape the image of Shoigu. Only what the hell should the image of the Minister of War be made by clowns, it is not clear [/ quoteAnother question, why Shoigu image? The Minister of Defense has an image formed from the totality of his actions or inaction, this woman will recommend him what orders should be given so that the image does not suffer? Or will it shape the image of the whole army? Then something started doing this late, he is not bad now.
          2. alexdol
            alexdol 24 November 2012 11: 54
            +1
            sv-sakh (1) RU "Will our troops rape a potential enemy to death?"
            Appreciated your humor and share your anger! To you +! But someone minuses you, I wonder - for what?
            1. Yura
              Yura 21 October 2018 10: 35
              +1
              Quote: alexdol
              But someone minuses you,

              "Homosexuals from the camp of the enemy", They are outraged that they are not yet in captivity.
    3. psv_company
      psv_company 21 November 2012 20: 46
      +2
      I achieved a lot of things in life, sucking !!!)))
    4. askort154
      askort154 21 November 2012 20: 47
      +4
      Shoigu's female taste is higher than that. We will see further.
      1. Joker
        Joker 21 November 2012 20: 52
        +62
        Well, it started all over again. Times change and only those in power are the same fools.
        1. avdkrd
          avdkrd 21 November 2012 21: 25
          +54
          I agree. It seemed that the country's leadership should have concluded that the laundresses should not control the state, and the veterinarian could never construct an airplane. What is interesting can advise the Minister of Defense (who, despite his popular first decisions, is also not a military professional), an actress diplomat, and on the basis of what experience will she give advice ?? And what place is she a diplomat? Represented Russia at the UN or worked as ambassador? What is the idea of ​​this pretty girl about the army?
          In my opinion, the authorities do not care about public opinion and the appropriateness of appointments in terms of professionalism and the usefulness of the matter. In the first place are personal devotion and clannishness.
          1. Vasiliev Nikolay
            Vasiliev Nikolay 21 November 2012 22: 22
            +23
            Absolutely rightly said avdkrd!
            When Sruderkova - stools were removed, then most of the furmen were satisfied with Shoigu. I then wrote, and it’s not difficult to see what Shoigu will not be of any use to. In Russia, the three main clans that rule the ball are: the Luzhkov clan, the beekeeper. Shoigu and Shaimieva. All the crap in United Russia, these are representatives of these clans and they wanted to spit on the opinion of the people, including, as a consequence, on the state of combat readiness and equipment of the Russian army. Pachonate operates in Russia, with all the ensuing consequences, and expect changes in the army. for the better it is not possible, even theoretically, in this situation and state of affairs. Well, and the fact that the army still somehow exists, this existence rests on the Soviet past .. As for developments in the military-industrial complex, everything goes for the cordon and enrichment of the mafia and clans. There is practically nothing in the army, akria single instances of the latest developments and simulators))) As for Kitaeva, pay attention to her education - MGMIMO, theater. At MGIMO and at the institute of the USA and Canada, there was the largest nursery of dissidents and agents of influence, even under the USSR — this is where Kitaeva’s legs come from!))) And so, the chick is pretty and Shoigu’s lover is not comfortable)))) In short - a complete atas and army scribe!
            1. Dimitr
              Dimitr 22 November 2012 00: 34
              -3
              Quote: Pisez
              In short - a complete atas and army scribe!

              Well, what are you of such an opinion about our Army! Our army will not ruin a few women, its spirit is not the same, it will exist not for, but contrary to their desires! And the rest is right! Yes, and clan spirit and personal devotion should not be surprised, not an innovation, invented a long time ago!
              1. Vasiliev Nikolay
                Vasiliev Nikolay 22 November 2012 01: 09
                +7
                Yeah, but did the Soviet army of invaders, invading it ruined it ???
                Think copper well - Dimitr. A small handful destroyed the USSR and the army too - after it. That bunch does not need a strong army. It is time to know the enemy in person and the truths of the facts of reality.
              2. Joker
                Joker 22 November 2012 01: 27
                +13
                In the USSR, the post-war army was strong in combat experience gained after the Second World War and due to the huge amount of equipment and aircraft. How many soldiers now have combat experience? I generally am silent about technology. But the spirit of war is not won, if only to fill up with corpses. We need a well-functioning system, managed by people who have real experience, who did not jump from sergeant to general, and who fought, received awards and for their merits became military generals, not parquet ones. So then we will have an army and we will go on the right path, and while prostitutes are sitting in the Moscow Region, we won’t achieve anything, already how much reform is underway, and nothing intelligible has been done, all for which they didn’t take all the mistakes, they buy equipment using 3 -4 pieces, but why no one takes into account how much it has been disposed of, but disposed of many times more than it does. All design bureaus are destroyed, everything is done in one place, Shoigu came, so what? He took the form so do it humanly, change the cut, fabrics, colors depending on the reviews, but no, he worked at the Ministry of Emergencies and decided to stick around the mold with all unnecessary nonsense, the shoulder strap still moved, what a fine fellow he is, we will probably never have equipment at least at the level of a potential enemy, our entire history, well, maybe only in Russia, our equipment and equipment is always worse than that of the enemy. In short, it’s called awl; it’s called now it will cancel a couple of stool decisions and will cut it, we’ve already gone through it, the current will be cut more openly, and then again, people will sooner find out more quickly than SK in theft, all year 2 said that he was stealing and only Now when the situation is already tense, they decided to check and put a couple of scapegoats for the amusement of the people. And there you can continue to cut further
                1. Joker
                  Joker 22 November 2012 01: 30
                  +22
                  If our ministers will also change often, then the form will turn into a demobilization, each one by one change and voila, the army of demobilization, the enemy, in fear, will drop their weapons and will run when such a scarecrow jumps out of him.
                  1. VadimSt
                    VadimSt 22 November 2012 03: 03
                    +10
                    Interesting! Did this clown or mumbler see himself in the mirror?
                    1. Joker
                      Joker 22 November 2012 03: 19
                      +9
                      Well, Duc is a tradition, now they don’t seem to sew already, they look like scarecrows to her god, it’s still fashionable to make metal heels on the boots so that they knock when the demobilization goes))) It’s interesting when at least someone gets busy with equipment, it seems like never. There was such an opportunity, rearmament, well, is it really impossible to make a normal coloring? Oh shoot them all am
                    2. Region-25.rus
                      Region-25.rus 23 November 2012 07: 24
                      +1
                      Quote: VadimSt
                      Interesting! This clown or mummer, saw himself in the mirror


                      I saw it clearly! But! Here the whole hitch is that in his head is a brain or cerebellum ?! I think you will make conclusions yourself!
                    3. Karish
                      Karish 25 November 2012 13: 52
                      0
                      Quote: VadimSt
                      Interesting! Did this clown or mumbler see himself in the mirror?


                      By the way, from the Ministry of Emergencies, it’s significant.
                    4. VadimSt
                      VadimSt 30 November 2012 06: 58
                      0
                      Another marshal - mom do not worry ............. not enough horse harness and saddles on the back.
                  2. Che
                    Che 22 November 2012 07: 39
                    +4
                    Joker,
                    Clowning continues. Roosters will never fill up a fox. Where is our army?
                  3. IRBIS
                    IRBIS 22 November 2012 09: 12
                    +4
                    Yudashkin nervously smokes away from this glamorous type!
                    1. admirer
                      admirer 25 November 2012 13: 35
                      0
                      Nah, everything was done according to the sketches of Yudashkin, but other materials were used.)))))))
                2. sleepy
                  sleepy 22 November 2012 04: 06
                  +4
                  Quote: Joker
                  "... for 2 years everyone around was saying that Serdyuk was stealing and only now, when the situation was already tense, they decided to check and put a couple of scapegoats for the amusement of the people. And there you can continue to cut ..."


                  Serdyukov about the investigation of the affairs of his former subordinates -
                  "I have nothing to do with it, nothing to do with it"



                  PS And in the background you can hear how they continue to saw.
            2. kush62
              kush62 22 November 2012 04: 04
              +1
              and Shoigu’s lover is not comfortable

              where did the information or the candle hold?
          2. gispanec
            gispanec 21 November 2012 23: 46
            +12
            Quote: avdkrd
            In my opinion, the authorities do not care about public opinion and the appropriateness of appointments in terms of professionalism and the usefulness of the case.

            There are 2 clans in the country and everything revolves around ..... and they do not give a shit about the anthill (people) ..... you are right .... the main thing is personal devotion .... hence the appointment and, in our opinion, absurd staff decisions. ..... here I put my SANTA FE in picking a suite that Sedyuchka will not only not sit down, but will remain in power ...... my car in Avito.ru ...... region 36 is on the room. I accept the call ....
            1. Ghenxnumx
              Ghenxnumx 23 November 2012 00: 05
              0
              Quote: gispanec
              here I put my SANTA FE in picking a suite that Sedyuchka will not only not sit down, but will remain in power ...... my car in Avito.ru ...... region 36 is on the room. I accept the call ....

              I won’t even put a scooter am
              1. contour
                contour 24 November 2020 18: 28
                0
                One nuance was missed.
                Santa Fe - Holy Faith translated from Spanish.
                A funny pun. Don’t you?
          3. old rocket man
            old rocket man 22 November 2012 00: 05
            +18
            avdkrd
            In the first place are personal devotion and clanism
            .
            Hello, we arrived, otherwise you didn’t know this before?
            In our army (and in the country) it has always been like this.
            Pros crawled out only in the war, and then they were quickly pushed back
            1. nerd.su
              nerd.su 22 November 2012 14: 27
              +1
              Quote: Old Rocketman
              Pros crawled out only in the war, and then they were quickly pushed back

              Can you name at least one army in the world where this is not so? :) Is that Sparta ...
          4. s1н7т
            s1н7т 22 November 2012 01: 30
            +5
            Quote: avdkrd
            And what place is she a diplomat?

            Key issue laughing
          5. military
            military 22 November 2012 10: 02
            +5
            Quote: avdkrd
            In the first place are personal devotion and clannishness.

            that's why I want to ask "... daughter, you whose will you? ... " recourse
          6. Karish
            Karish 25 November 2012 13: 50
            +1
            Quote: avdkrd
            diplomat-actress and based on what experience will she give advice ?? And what place is she a diplomat?

            As you can see the new minister, the new harem. That there are few secretaries who, if they print with one finger, are already good. Their main purpose is to keep the boss in proper physical and moral form.
        2. YARY
          YARY 21 November 2012 21: 28
          +42
          I DO NOT KNOW THE MEN HAVE ANY SENSE AFTER THIS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE SITE OF ANYTHING?
          I thought a respectable person came to restore order. But again, they’re doing MF from MO. Let this la ... lady be around but around, but! Here!
          I don’t have confidence in Shoigu!
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 21 November 2012 21: 38
            -5
            Damn, what polkans drive to reporters? She will be all in white going out and announcing decisions of the Ministry of Defense there ...
            1. YARY
              YARY 21 November 2012 21: 53
              +7
              Press Secretary of the Minister of Defense Daria Zatulina.
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay 21 November 2012 23: 22
              +17
              Quote: Sith Lord
              Damn, what polkans drive to reporters? She will be all in white going out and announcing decisions of the Ministry of Defense there ...

              I don’t understand how a person who has not served in the army for at least 5 years can be an adviser to the Minister of Defense !!
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 21 November 2012 23: 38
                +11
                Hi Alibek! Over the past 20 years, I have completely ceased to understand anything. I suspect that if I understand this, I will go to a psychiatric hospital
                Quote: Yarbay
                I don’t understand how a person who has not served in the army for at least 5 years can be an adviser to the Minister of Defense !!
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 22 November 2012 01: 21
                  +7
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  Hi Alibek! Over the past 20 years, I have completely ceased to understand anything. I suspect that if I understand this, I will go to a psychiatric hospital

                  Hi Ruslan!
                  But by the way, everyone is trying to work and promote their loved ones, and this is a disease that has gone into the blood of all of us after the USSR!
                  Impunity and lack of control are to blame for this !!
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 22 November 2012 03: 18
                    +6
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    this is a disease that has entered the bloodstream in all of us after the USSR!

                    Under the USSR, there were labor dynasties and now official-criminal, and that is the difference
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 22 November 2012 18: 38
                      +3
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      Under the USSR, there were labor dynasties and now official-criminal, and that is the difference
                      Today I heard a brilliant phrase, it is understandable a man’s desire to pay off a woman for sex, but not due !!
                      1. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 22 November 2012 18: 49
                        +3
                        Hi Alibek! typical exchange in kind - who can pay what if he does not take bribes and does not receive kickbacks
              2. Ghenxnumx
                Ghenxnumx 23 November 2012 00: 09
                0
                Quote: Yarbay
                I don’t understand how a person who has not served in the army for at least 5 years can be an adviser to the Minister of Defense !!

                Certainly not by an advisor to the Ministry of Defense - it was clearly said "the range of tasks is different"
            3. old rocket man
              old rocket man 22 November 2012 00: 14
              +4
              Quote: Sith Lord
              She will be all in white going out and announcing decisions of the Ministry of Defense there ...

              Nope, someone should serve the minister of coffee, again, discharge, they will get such soldiers as us, and here such a chick is under ... at hand. laughing
              1. s1н7т
                s1н7т 22 November 2012 01: 35
                +1
                Quote: Old Rocketman
                at hand.

                Gee! Do you think Shoigu is only by hand ... capable? laughing Pi-pez, ministers go! laughing
            4. Homo
              Homo 22 November 2012 02: 52
              +2
              Sith LordI agree with you completely. And for the rest, read the MO structure http://structure.mil.ru/structure/structuremorf.htm and see how many female civilian posts there are.
            5. Nickname
              Nickname 22 November 2012 10: 16
              +2
              Minus, of course in vain, maybe the lord is right. But by the way, this is all now, people from Serdyukov women have not cooled down yet
          2. Normal
            Normal 21 November 2012 21: 54
            +8
            Quote: Ardent

            I DO NOT KNOW THE MEN HAVE ANY SENSE AFTER THIS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE SITE OF ANYTHING?

            Of course have. When, after the appointment of Shoigu, euphoric comments prevailed in the discussion, there were sensible judgments, but we wanted the impossible, we wanted order.
            Quote: Ardent
            I don’t have confidence in Shoigu!
            And I never had much trust. Of course, not the worst option. But he is in power longer than anyone, which means obedient and manageable. So everything will be as before, but not as outrageous as under Serdyukov.
            1. s1н7т
              s1н7т 22 November 2012 01: 40
              +3
              Quote: Normal
              everything will be as before, but not as outrageous as under Serdyukov.

              Yeah, finally came.
              Interestingly, for the fact that "in the end there will be a pi-pec of the army and military industry" will stop minus? laughing
              Or will they continue to "believe" stupidly?
            2. vadimN
              vadimN 22 November 2012 11: 47
              +1
              Quote: Normal
              But he is in power longer than anyone, which means obedient and manageable. So everything will be as before, but not as outrageous as under Serdyukov.


              A perfectly correct judgment. Shoigu in the Moscow Region is an analogue of Putin in the presidency, only on a slightly smaller scale. Just as Putin took over the country after Yeltsin and built an oligarchic-bureaucratic state so that you can live peacefully, live and make good (at the expense of the country and the people), so Shoigu will calm the public now, dampen the wave and ... everything will be as before, only no noise.

              Yes, there was euphoria and hope ... But, it seems, not destiny. tired of being disappointed ... "If you don't want disappointments, don't trust anyone" (c).
            3. Karish
              Karish 25 November 2012 14: 04
              0
              Quote: Normal
              And I never had much trust. Of course, not the worst option. But he is in power longer than anyone, which means obedient and manageable. So everything will be as before, but not as outrageous as under Serdyukov.

              I do not want to talk about Shoigu neither good nor bad. In the Ministry of Emergencies, it’s kind of like an order, at least something to spin. Talk about something else - if one official is thrown first in the suburbs (where there is complete blockage and theft) and then a few months later by the Minister of Defense - this indicates a certain shortage of personnel that Putin is experiencing. Shoigu is absolutely loyal to Putin (and Putin probably if he could have cloned him and planted him in all places) - the problem is that after 12 years of reign, ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE ALSO TURNED FROM PLACE TO PLACE.
              1. 1536
                1536 6 January 2017 23: 34
                +1
                The order in the Ministry of Emergencies ... This order is akin to the cemetery: bring it, bury it as it should. But to create a funeral prevention system so that there are no dead people, this is not the right place.
                Now comes the time of oracles or living gods, whatever you like. According to the thoughts of those who determine this time, it is necessary not to think, but sacredly believe and obey. In short, God endured and ordered us. This principle operated in Russia for about 900 years. And then "suddenly" the year 1917 happened. True, the impatient people lasted only 74 years. But now time is accelerating so fast that 900 years can turn into 900 days, or even hours. God, he sees everything!
          3. Vasiliev Nikolay
            Vasiliev Nikolay 21 November 2012 22: 56
            +11
            Ardent, there is a sense - unequivocally and at least so that the people of Russia understand. where he ended up and the way out. We must boldly and often bring to people the true state of affairs in Russia. And the more people will know about this mess and betrayal, the faster they will tear down the Bosko and restore order. For the people to realize the true state of affairs and the scribe has come, for the mafia, clans and oligarchs, it is necessary that at least 30 percent of the population should know about the mess - at least. This is the critical mass face value. but for now it’s not there. The people are still sleeping and do not understand. and also fooled. This is sad.
          4. s1н7т
            s1н7т 22 November 2012 01: 33
            +2
            Quote: Ardent
            I don’t have confidence in Shoigu!

            Only now? And recently, for something like this, they minus it! laughing
          5. vadimN
            vadimN 22 November 2012 11: 43
            0
            Damn .., damn it! And this one there ... One team ...
        3. Town Guard
          Town Guard 21 November 2012 22: 02
          +10
          Quote: Joker

          Well, it started all over again.

          "According to Kitaeva, she will not deal with the information policy of the department. This function was left to another adviser to Shoigu - Tatiana Zavyalova."
          The team changed, and again they recruit girls - this time, their own)))
          Serdyukovskys kicked out - put their laughing
        4. aksakal
          aksakal 21 November 2012 22: 55
          +13
          Quote: Joker
          Well, it started all over again. Times are changing and only in power are the same
          - Joker, categorically welcome!
          Frankly, this appointment alarmed me. Do Russian officials have a fad? - to arrange "brilliant careers" for their mistresses? It seems that Putin started - he was the first to appoint Khabiullina and someone else to high positions ... But firstly, Putin has nothing personal to do with them, and secondly, I don’t remember what about the second, but Khabiullina (or Nabiullina?) - she was definitely a pro in economics, she is a doctor of economic sciences.
          And then what about the stool, what to Shoigu - who are they? Let's goodbye! No specialized education - well, with what advice or in what place can an actress help a defense minister? Well, perhaps this, how is it? - Well, to remove some kind of tension there .... Forgive me for dirty insinuations, but there are simply no others! But why at the cost of a country's defense?
          I really do not like our Kazakhstani officials, contemptuously called by the people "agashki", but I myself witnessed such a conversation when one "missochka" asked him to arrange a career, though not in the Moscow region, but in the oil company, Munaygaz. Agashka asked, puzzled, what is she, versed in oil production? Well, no, of course, but is there really no job for her? At first the earthenware was neighing, as if you were going to be a cleaner? I'll arrange it, then seriously, like, where did you get the idea that I signed up to arrange a career for you? Is that the thread does not straighten you? No car? (referring to the cayenne donated last year (though slightly second-hand laughing but shhh!) well, etc. And in conclusion, like, would you like people to LAUGH over me?
          Why is Shoigu not afraid of being laughed at? I already laugh .... The skirt is a skirt, and work, I'm sorry apart. Especially in such an important area as the defense of the country. Very puzzled by this step Shoigu. Very puzzled by his slowness with the expulsion of the head of education, Priezheva - in fact, what she did pulls on the direct failure to comply with the order of her immediate superior with all the consequences for the latter. He is very puzzled by Putin that we are not 37 years old and on this basis to take Serdyukov out of the blow that he more than deserved am Something is not right, something is bad .... I am against revolutions, but if Putin already breeds sacred cows, and ministers do not control their base instincts, then a revolution is better than a final catastrophe.
          1. Joker
            Joker 21 November 2012 23: 48
            +2
            Hi hi revolution is not needed, it is necessary that the people draw conclusions and do not vote for it in the elections, but the trouble is, if not Putin, who should vote for? The next 100% will be Putin’s protege or he himself, and who else? There is no one to vote for, they removed the column against all unfortunately, and I would be sure that everyone would tick it and tick it. And why the swamp is still not planted, it has long been clear that people need to vote harder for Putin, the enemy is needed, that’s it, remember the signs were still popular, vote for Putin save the country.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 22 November 2012 01: 02
              +1
              Quote: Joker
              but the trouble is, if not Putin, whom to vote for? The next 100% will be Putin's henchman or he himself, and who else? There is no one to vote for, they removed the column against all unfortunately, and I would be sure that everyone would tick it and tick it. And why the marsh is still not planted, it has long been clear that people need to vote harder for Putin, the enemy is needed, that’s it, remember the signs were still popular, vote for Putin save the country.
              - with all the wealth of choice, there is no choice laughing , here you are right. Many are right here - in the USSR such things were impermissible. But at the same time, women were in power - but WHAT! Tereshkova! We have Donenbaeva in Kazakhstan, the first woman combiner Rkerdsman, the hero of labor. They really were lumps! Moreover, Tereshkova was also a beauty - this one nervously smokes on the sidelines! I wouldn't mind if Tereshkova was appointed to the Ministry of Defense, honestly. Here, even my respected members of the forum spit, like, what are you, not knowing? What is there to know? Firstly, the Ministry of Defense is a body where the number of girls should be minimized by definition; war is not a woman's occupation. Secondly, such a position should not be placed on a general's position, well, it should not, and that's it! Well, the little girl is good .... But why offend a military colonel from some thread of a TV channel like "Krasnaya Zvezda" with the experience of reporting from dangerous areas? He deserved this position more by long and faithful years of service! And here it is not clear who, it is not clear where - on you! Will it not come tomorrow to purely military positions at such a pace?
              1. Aleksys2
                Aleksys2 22 November 2012 06: 04
                +5
                Quote: aksakal
                That would have nothing against it, if Tereshkova had been appointed to the Defense Ministry, honestly.

                I agree.
                To help the family, in 1954, Valentina went to work at the Yaroslavl Tire Plant as a bracelet worker, while enrolling in evening classes at a working youth school. Since 1959, has been engaged in parachuting in the Yaroslavl flying club (completed 90 jumps). Continuing work at the textile factory "Red Perekop", from 1955 to 1960 she passed distance learning in a technical school of light industry. Since August 11, 1960, she is the released secretary of the Komsomol committee of the Red Perekop plant.
                Military ranks
                December 15, 1962 - junior lieutenant.
                June 16, 1963 - lieutenant.
                June 16, 1963 - captain.
                January 9, 1965 - major.
                October 14, 1967 - lieutenant colonel.
                April 30, 1970 - Colonel Engineer, since 1975 - Colonel Engineer.
                1995 - major general.
                On April 30, 1997, retired.
                Valentina Tereshkova is the first woman general in the history of the Russian army.
                1. Selevc
                  Selevc 23 November 2012 22: 00
                  +1
                  Yes, look at the photo of Tereshkova and just admire - it seems not a woman but a disguised KGB officer + judo fighter + Voroshilov shooter ...

                  The look reads determination, firmness and seriousness - this is a common feature of the people of that generation, regardless of gender - which can not be said about modern girls and guys, all the same they have too much glamor, effeminacy and little seriousness - the democratic slackness is said ...

                  Yes, skillfully the allied authorities correctly select the personnel which can not be said at all about the leadership of the Russian Federation by looking at the photo of Kitaeva ... Personnel decide everything - this phrase is relevant at all times ...
            2. military
              military 22 November 2012 10: 29
              +1
              Quote: Joker
              but the trouble is, if not Putin, whom to vote for?

              what a powerful yet this "zombie program" ... belay you didn’t vote for it, as you write, ***, and you’re confident that nothing in the country will change with him or his protégé, but the subconscious is still helpfully whispering “Vote or lose!” ... request
              I don’t want and will not argue now about the presence / absence of potential alternatives, but if sooner or later we don’t give up the thought “who, if not HE?”, then the only thing that is guaranteed to us is “eternal stability” ... request
          2. s1н7т
            s1н7т 22 November 2012 01: 43
            +3
            Quote: aksakal
            better revolution than final disaster.

            Many will disagree with you, alas. Used to live in a world painted by the media.
          3. alvog
            alvog 22 November 2012 07: 07
            +1
            Quote: aksakal
            Why is Shoigu not afraid of being laughed at? I already laugh .... The skirt is a skirt, and work, I'm sorry apart. Especially in such an important area as the defense of the country. Very puzzled by this step Shoigu.

            I thought that something would change, but alas ... It seems that next time I will vote differently, and not only me ...
        5. Alx1miK
          Alx1miK 22 November 2012 00: 33
          -2
          To begin with, we need to see what she will have for the post there and what she understands there. Maybe she really is a homegrown specialist in the military sphere (the truth is ridiculous himself). Or maybe as you say, she has an excellent working mouth. Time will tell. All the same, they won’t remove her from our screams. So let's see.
        6. Che
          Che 22 November 2012 07: 32
          +1
          Joker,
          Let her be a beautiful woman, but what should she do in the sun. Can you see the skirts have changed and all the changes? Brothers to the green men of the khan.
          1. Sandov
            Sandov 22 November 2012 21: 10
            +1
            Che,
            He was unpleasantly impressed by this appointment, yet the girls were not in the army. Well, a nice lady in every way, well, let it shine in another place.
        7. military
          military 22 November 2012 10: 00
          +1
          Quote: Joker
          Times change and only those in power are the same fools.

          for some reason, it seems that all of you and I are looking like fools ... and THESE, entrenched in power, are by no means fools ... feel
        8. Rusich
          Rusich 22 November 2012 12: 19
          +2
          WHO WILL ME TELL ME WHO ARE A SHOIG ???? and what is the Maltese ORDEN and why eat it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ???????????????
          Shoigu was awarded the highest award of the Order of Malta - the Knight's Military Cross for mercy, salvation and help. The award was presented by the Italian Ambassador to Russia, Antonio Zanardi Landi, and the Prince and Grand Master of the Order of Malta, Matthew Festing. It is not clear what kind of mercy and what kind of help we are talking about, but we will not find fault with the wording. The leadership of the Order of Malta is still far from the problems of Russia.
          http://3rm.info/26722-maltiyskiy-rycar-na-borodinskom-pole.html продолжение тут ....

          For a long time I have not commented on anything here because I did not consider it necessary, but I see that I have already exploded and I want to write my opinion that THIS POWER IS SALE FOR THIS PEOPLE! COUNTRIES DANGEROUS !!!!!!!!!! RUSSIA HAS ONLY TWO ALLIES, THE ARMY AND THE NAVY. Alexander III And he is also looking for trust in China and BAB "SLAVIT"
          1. sleepy
            sleepy 23 November 2012 03: 22
            +1
            Quote: Rusich
            "... and what is the ORDER of Malta ...?"


            The Order of Malta is essentially a Templar Templar, reborn into globalists with the idea of ​​world domination.
            "The Templars (fr. Templiers from" temple "- temple," templars ") or Poor Knights of Christ and the Temple of Solomon.
            It is like the former "communists" who are now repainted as democrats.
            You can find out about the awarding here: "Shoigu was awarded the highest award of the Order of Malta."
            http://topwar.ru/16192-shoygu-udostoen-vysshey-nagrady-maltiyskogo-ordena-za-mil
            oserdie-spasenie-i-pomosch.html # comment-id-449105
      2. military
        military 22 November 2012 15: 17
        0
        Quote: askort154
        Shoigu's female taste is higher than that. We will see further.

        Minister of Defense with a feminine taste ... this is somehow not "ice" ... wink in this situation, it is difficult to understand what he has there and in what place is "higher" ... feel
        and we’ll really see ... drinks
    5. donchepano
      donchepano 22 November 2012 00: 11
      +2
      Yes, anyone would wish for such a "Deputy" assistant ...
      to raise the prestigious rating)))
    6. ikrut
      ikrut 22 November 2012 01: 53
      +1
      As Zhvanetsky said: "... just give it to us, if, of course, a beautiful woman ..."
      And I remembered:
      "A beautiful woman is a profession, everything else is amateurism.
      I put her above the government, Your Excellency "
      In general, he smiled :)))). With such we will. "Marvelous are your works, O Lord"
    7. gojesi
      gojesi 22 November 2012 06: 22
      +6
      ... wink girl without education is looking for a job in the specialty fellow
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 22 November 2012 06: 38
        +3
        - We were attacked ........... what to do?
        - Oh, the nail broke.

        Something like this approximately.
        1. strannik595
          strannik595 22 November 2012 10: 41
          0
          Ministry of Defense TV presenter is just Maria
    8. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 22 November 2012 11: 28
      0
      Beautiful girl, may beauty save мирarmy? Everything else does not help ...
    9. alexdol
      alexdol 24 November 2012 11: 51
      0
      tronin.maxim RU "What a pretty one!"
      I agree, "simpotishnaya", but what does this have to do with the sun?
      Apparently they want to put "artists" in all key positions in the ARMY, and make "artists" out of professional military personnel?
    10. nas leonid
      nas leonid 24 November 2012 13: 29
      0
      And go very tasty.
    11. Shulz-1955
      Shulz-1955 25 November 2012 20: 55
      0
      Che she advises, I do not understand? What does she understand in the army?
  2. Nick
    Nick 21 November 2012 20: 20
    +7
    Quote:
    "... The official decided not to disclose her new duties until their official approval. She only said that her tasks in the Ministry of Defense would be different ..."



    So Shoigu still has gunpowder in the flasks ...
    1. bask
      bask 21 November 2012 20: 26
      +29
      Harem number 2 ???? soldier
      1. predator.3
        predator.3 21 November 2012 21: 50
        +9
        Quote: bask
        Harem number 2 ????


        It seems like some kind of vicious circle,
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т 22 November 2012 01: 46
          +3
          Quote: predator.3
          It seems like some kind of vicious circle,

          All our "state" is like that.
        2. predator.3
          predator.3 22 November 2012 06: 22
          +3
          Here she is "dear", I remembered who it was - one of those zhurnalushlukh who sat in Benghazi and broadcast western and Aljazir stories. Now she is in our consciences with the Minister of Defense. [media = http: //manifest-911.livejournal.com/530928.html]
      2. Rink
        Rink 21 November 2012 22: 01
        +11
        Kapets!
        One "bachelorette party" was dispersed, - now another minister is attaching all his women to government posts.

        What the hell is the "adviser" to the defense minister ?! How old is this little girl, what is her experience? What can she advise - what tie to tie in the morning? What does she understand in modern weapons, military technology, or in the development strategy of the armed forces? Will she advise Shoigu to accept or not accept offers from regular officers of the General Staff?

        I am freaking out of this circus ...
        1. predator.3
          predator.3 21 November 2012 22: 11
          +10
          Kitaeva served as adviser to the governor of the Moscow Region, Sergei Shoigu, on information policy.

          It is still unknown what range of issues Maria Kitaeva will oversee in the Ministry of Defense.

          Maria Kitaeva graduated from Moscow school No. 1234. In 2005 she was educated at MGIMO, then entered the RATI-GITIS at the acting faculty. Since 2007, Maria has worked at the Zvezda television company.

          Since May 2010, Kitaeva has been a TV presenter at VGTRK. Maria Kitaeva did a famous interview with Vladimir Putin in the yellow Lada Kalina.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 22 November 2012 03: 41
            +4
            Quote: predator.3

            It is still unknown what range of issues Maria Kitaeva will oversee in the Ministry of Defense.

            She has a ring on her finger, whose wife she is, if a lot of things will fall into place, why should she be hired, and her career will go uphill hi
          2. Tatar-in
            Tatar-in 22 November 2012 06: 07
            +4
            - uncle can I interview you
            - Oh, uncle, this is not an INTERVIEW ....
            - but take it anyway !!!!!
          3. donchepano
            donchepano 22 November 2012 06: 58
            +2
            Quote: predator.3
            Since 2007, Maria worked at the Zvezda television company. Since May 2010, Kitaeva was a TV presenter at the VGTRK. Maria Kitaeva did a famous interview with Vladimir Putin in the yellow Lada Kalina.


            Well then, her "growth" in her career is clear
          4. Nick
            Nick 22 November 2012 19: 26
            0
            Quote: predator.3
            Maria worked at the Zvezda television company.

            Yes exactly! It seems at one time she hosted the program "I Serve Russia"
        2. military
          military 22 November 2012 10: 36
          +1
          Quote: Skating rink
          I am freaking out of this circus ...

          from this circus all thinking Russia has been fucking awry for a long time ... wink
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 21 November 2012 20: 28
      +3
      Spokesperson, will work with reporters ...
      1. Engrim
        Engrim 21 November 2012 20: 38
        +11
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Spokesperson, will work with reporters ...

        If only the press secretary ... There is a whole adviser here. Moreover, "according to Kitaeva, she will not deal with the department's information policy." Apparently, she is a specialist in something else.
        1. Blat
          Blat 21 November 2012 20: 52
          +24
          and the main thing to be appreciated as an expert in this is something else))))))))))))))
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 21 November 2012 22: 59
            +2
            Quote: blat
            and the main thing to be appreciated as an expert in this is something else))))))))))))))
            - I usually disagree with you, I’m forced to recourse
        2. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 21 November 2012 21: 39
          -4
          Beckoning public relations adviser, same thing)
    3. andrey.joshua
      andrey.joshua 21 November 2012 21: 49
      +5
      So Shoigu still has gunpowder in the flasks ...

      Dear, you in the evening with your wife, and ask: "Darling, can I sleep with the Light today !?" .... and your wife, thinking about the light on: "Well, you can!" .... And you right there: "Come in, she allowed the light !?" ... Let your loved ones praise you at your home, for is: "Oh well done, you are with me, ..... there is still gunpowder in the flasks" .....
      I hope you understand what I’m explaining to you !?
      Eh ,,, some Bitches in power ,,,,
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 21 November 2012 23: 55
        +1
        Quote: andrey.joshua
        Dear, you in the evening with your wife, and ask: "Darling, can I sleep with the Light today !?

        An old and stupid joke ..... and besides, what are you talking about? .... obviously you screwed up ..... not beautiful ..... minus
      2. Nicotine 7
        Nicotine 7 22 November 2012 01: 26
        +5
        And popular opinion has long been no one's concern.
    4. soaring
      soaring 21 November 2012 22: 14
      +8
      A clan of men and a clan of girls serving them ... wink laughing
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 22 November 2012 01: 48
        +3
        Quote: soaring
        A clan of men and a clan of girls serving them ... wink laughing

        Well, this is our defense.
      2. military
        military 22 November 2012 10: 40
        +2
        Quote: soaring
        A clan of men and a clan of girls serving them ...

        "outsourcing" of some kind ... recourse
        1. taurus69
          taurus69 22 November 2012 13: 49
          +1
          more precisely, outsourcing ...
    5. Orthodox warrior
      Orthodox warrior 21 November 2012 22: 19
      +6
      If I were 15 years old, I would joke: "I want to be the Minister of Defense! Only in this department you can take nice women as advisors. And it doesn't matter that they are not in the subject, the main thing is that they feel like concubines and enjoy their fate!"
      Or is this aura on the Arbat? Went - did not notice somehow ...
    6. Per se.
      Per se. 21 November 2012 22: 42
      +8
      Quote: Nick
      So Shoigu still has gunpowder in the flasks ...
      Here I fully agree with you. Shoigu had gunpowder in the powder flasks, and Masha Kitaeva had berries in the buttocks ... Damn them all.
    7. VeteranVSK
      VeteranVSK 21 November 2012 23: 57
      +2
      And berries in the buttocks !!! belay bully
      1. MilaPhone
        MilaPhone 22 November 2012 07: 55
        +1
        Her lip is not stupid either - she doesn’t ride with anyone in the “Yellow Kaliny”!
    8. taurus69
      taurus69 22 November 2012 13: 46
      +1
      yeah, and berries in the buttocks!
  3. mark021105
    mark021105 21 November 2012 20: 25
    +15
    We didn’t have time to get rid of one harem ...
    1. Engrim
      Engrim 21 November 2012 20: 26
      +10
      mark021105,
      Yeah, Shoigu began with what Serdyukov finished, with beautiful women in assistants. It’s a joke, of course, but if only it didn’t turn into the truth.
      1. bask
        bask 21 November 2012 20: 34
        +9
        Engrim, I would say than Serdyukov ,, ended up ,, in his harem .. A. here’s Shoigu, you really don’t have to start this. First, scour the service of dismissed military stools and professionals, and women-women are good for ........ but not for the male profession-service ...
    2. NICK
      NICK 21 November 2012 21: 14
      +9
      Quote: mark021105
      Do not have time to get rid of one harem

      Each pig will pull its prostitutes and licking (irreplaceable specialists in this place) to its feeding trough, what happened to the army? Or rather, what did the commander-in-chief turn her into? The form of the soldiers will now probably be Dolce Gabana at least, Yudashkin does not roll. I wonder how much now, instead of the Ministry of Emergencies, the MO will buy Porsche Caenas, etc.? One pig was removed from the coma along with her prostitutes (the most important specialists, now another pig is replacing it). Putin generally loves to make personnel rotations (change of pigs at feeding troughs, the most interesting, Putin’s personal pigs are not translated, their name is LEGION.
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 21 November 2012 21: 53
        -9
        You yourself have done something great, exposer Shoigu?
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 21 November 2012 23: 24
          0
          Wow, minus.
          Che, does everyone really believe that Shoigu will sew a uniform from Dolce Gaban?
          And call everyone pigs - is that normal?
          An interesting folk is going to the site - what, it became boring, how Bolotnaya was dismissed?
          1. gispanec
            gispanec 22 November 2012 00: 01
            +3
            Quote: Botanologist
            Wow, minus.

            The real peppers here are not for + or -... but for the idea ... and you are a random passer-by .... here you go ....
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 22 November 2012 19: 43
              0
              The real peppers here are not for + or -... but for the idea ... and you are a random passer-by .... here you go ....

              You type for the doorman, separate yours from strangers? Real... wassat pepper.
        2. gispanec
          gispanec 21 November 2012 23: 59
          +8
          Quote: Botanologist
          You yourself have done something great, exposer Shoigu?

          And why bother without facts? ..... and what did Shoya do? ..... current what he did ?? ?? current without tantrums ..... what is the best RF Ministry of Emergencies in the world ?? !! .... fairy tales and by the way ...... shh ..... everything is like in a mirror with Oboronservis LLC ...... and don’t have to frown ... you’ll fool the people. ..
        3. Che
          Che 23 November 2012 15: 57
          0
          Botanologist,
          I would like to hope that Shoigu will show himself. Appointment pretty does not inspire hope.
      2. s1н7т
        s1н7т 22 November 2012 01: 53
        +1
        For the local society is too bold! laughing
        But absolutely right!
  4. Guun
    Guun 21 November 2012 20: 26
    +3
    Either a good specialist or along the path of Serdyukov.
  5. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 21 November 2012 20: 27
    +15
    I am very ashamed and bitter to watch all this shame to which the Russian army is exposed!
    1. slvevg
      slvevg 21 November 2012 23: 03
      +2
      According to Yevgeny Fedorov (State Duma), Russia is a country with an occupying government, hence all advisers are only instruments of control, information gathering, etc. The younger the adviser, the more liberal, and they will advise what they lower from the State Department. Unfortunately. A direct sign of getting rid of the Amer’s yoke for the future is adequate appointment of advisers that do not contradict logic (Slavic). This is the same system, if under two ministers the same bacchanalia exists, there is something to think about, comrade! angry
      1. sleepy
        sleepy 23 November 2012 03: 33
        +1
        Quote: slvevg
        "... but they will advise what will be released from the State Department. Unfortunately."


        “Russia can have any number of nuclear suitcases and nuclear buttons,
        but since the 500 billion dollars of the Russian elite are in our banks,
        you’ll figure it out: is it your elite, or is it already ours? ”
        Zbigniew Brzezinski December 22, 2009.
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 21 November 2012 23: 52
      -3
      Quote: Bashkaus
      I am very ashamed and bitter to watch all this shame to which the Russian army is exposed!

      Everything is lost, everything is lost, a girl in the War Department.
      If she is as smart as cute, then this is a terrible force.
      We’ll wait and see that we immediately raise a panic.
  6. Download Do Re Mi
    Download Do Re Mi 21 November 2012 20: 27
    +13
    Freaks are alone in the government, and this appointment, finally put an end to my doubts about who is who! There will be no men of good from them, their place on the scaffold!
  7. tarnishes
    tarnishes 21 November 2012 20: 28
    +2
    So the Minister of Defense is not far left!
  8. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 21 November 2012 20: 29
    0
    Well, then I would also consult, I’ll give pleasant advice
  9. 420482
    420482 21 November 2012 20: 36
    -3
    People who know their job should work in the military department. God forbid that the new adviser be such.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 22 November 2012 01: 58
      +4
      Did you serve in the army? laughing
      And this "advisor" only knows how to GIVE advice. Let it be sensible), but why is she in the state of Moscow?
  10. stranik72
    stranik72 21 November 2012 20: 37
    +10
    Ser Dyukov also began with this. According to rumors, the new MO "walker" naturally did not hold a candle. But I think he is wrong, neither these appointments are needed now. And not this lady on the mind can "advise" MO. In general, Putmeds have no other way, it seems like a good solution with MO, only I think that the result will be the same. In the wretched environment of the vertical of power, neither De Gaulle nor Stalin can appear.
  11. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 21 November 2012 20: 40
    +6
    Yeah, well done minister, just on a trip to China he will consult with her. As Makar Chudra used to say to the unforgettable M. Gorky: “Twice it’s not good, if new boots are too tight, and if a beautiful woman is a fool.
    1. VAF
      VAF 21 November 2012 21: 06
      +14
      Quote: cherkas.oe
      , just on a trip to China will consult with her.


      Well, in China there are the same worthy "advisors" +! lol Although for the first time you only need to go with ... "your own samovar". whatever ... "not lured" narrow-eyed bully

      1. Vasiliev Nikolay
        Vasiliev Nikolay 21 November 2012 22: 36
        +1
        Although a rear view, but a cool figure in a chick!))) lol
      2. Lissyara
        Lissyara 21 November 2012 22: 56
        -8
        The back hemisphere is super.
        I would take on escort and attached to the engines. You can even refuel wassat
        By the way, about Kitaeva.
        Not a stupid girl, and in the words of friends, "not a bedding."
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 21 November 2012 23: 59
          0
          Quote: LiSSyara
          Not a stupid girl, and in the words of friends, "not a bedding."

          Perhaps a link with any industrial potential (assumption).
        2. gispanec
          gispanec 22 November 2012 00: 05
          +1
          Quote: LiSSyara
          By the way, about Kitaeva. Not a stupid girl, and in the words of friends, "not a bedding."

          nonsense .... more precisely throwing
        3. s1н7т
          s1н7т 22 November 2012 01: 59
          -2
          Quote: LiSSyara
          Not a stupid girl, and in the words of friends, "not a bedding."

          So, "lining". Otherwise, what is she to do there?
  12. Letnab
    Letnab 21 November 2012 20: 40
    +3
    Nice one! but ahrinet anyway! The artists are different, the performance is the same!
  13. dmb
    dmb 21 November 2012 20: 48
    +13
    Well, thank God, Shoigu is not gay. And to be more precise, this appointment is the clearest example of how the Authority ... is on its people. She does not and will not take his opinion into account. There are many complaints about the former in power of the CPSU. But let someone remember that at least one leader appointed instead of the disgraced one starts with the same as the disgraced one. What kind of an irreplaceable specialist for the defense of the country with a theatrical education, who spent his short life in the field of journalism, who will now deal with other issues. Not otherwise, she will GIVE advice on how to properly control the troops. Usually this was done by the senior ladies of the garrison at the dull husbands-commanders, but here they were invited from outside. Progress is evident.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 21 November 2012 23: 25
      +4
      Quote: dmb
      Usually this was done by the senior garrison ladies of dumb husbands-commanders, and here they were invited from the outside. Progress on hand

      You know, if you appointed the wife of some sort of garrison commander or general, I would have understood !!
      Wives often almost serve as husbands!
    2. NICK
      NICK 21 November 2012 23: 29
      -1
      Quote: dmb
      thank God Shoigu is not "blue

      What if he simply disguises himself when he takes professional professionals to his device? what
  14. Severe
    Severe 21 November 2012 20: 49
    +13
    Why is it needed in the army ???
    1. Cavas
      Cavas 21 November 2012 20: 53
      +5
      Quote: Harsh
      Why is it needed in the army ???

      Is bromine better? laughing

      Yeah really guys
      Bromine give! And it is necessary
      So that the soldiers think
      Exclusively about the service!

      laughing

      1. Cavas
        Cavas 21 November 2012 21: 00
        +16
        Yeah really guys
        Bromine give! And it is necessary
        So that the soldiers think
        Exclusively about the service!

        1. Town Guard
          Town Guard 21 November 2012 22: 09
          +5
          Quote: Cavas

          Yeah really guys
          Bromine give! And it is necessary
          So that the soldiers think
          Exclusively about the service!

          This is the same TV presenter became an adviser to the Ministry of Defense ??? laughing
        2. Orthodox warrior
          Orthodox warrior 21 November 2012 22: 31
          +8

          Cavas
          Goofy ... I'm in shock! Here we got ... I still don’t know exactly who, but it seems like we all got there! The circus continues!
          1. zol1
            zol1 22 November 2012 07: 42
            +2
            The circus has left, but the clowns are all the same!
      2. Vasiliev Nikolay
        Vasiliev Nikolay 21 November 2012 22: 59
        +2
        Who about what and whom to bother)))
    2. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 21 November 2012 21: 20
      +14
      so that the soldiers masturbate looking at her portrait in all the barracks (sorry, I could not resist, but I can’t find another application for this young lady in the army with all the desire) I just do it in shock ...
      1. Vasiliev Nikolay
        Vasiliev Nikolay 21 November 2012 23: 09
        0
        Baskaus, do you know the newest latest method of masturbation?
    3. VAF
      VAF 21 November 2012 21: 25
      +6
      Quote: Harsh
      Why is it needed in the army ???


      And you ... guess +! lol

      1. Vasiliev Nikolay
        Vasiliev Nikolay 21 November 2012 23: 00
        -2
        He looks - probably he’d prepared to hollow))) laughing
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 22 November 2012 01: 36
          +1
          Quote: Pisez
          He looks - probably he’d prepared to hollow)))

          It was recalled from the movie * the formula of love * - why do we need a blacksmith?))))))))
    4. Normal
      Normal 21 November 2012 22: 05
      +6
      Quote: Harsh

      Why is it needed in the army ???


      And all would be nothing if it were not for squaw.
      The one that got stuck near the border itself.
      It would drive away, but it was cold to sleep.
      And besides, she could still come in handy ... wink

      From Chigrakov. (Siskin)
    5. s1н7т
      s1н7т 22 November 2012 02: 03
      0
      Quote: Harsh
      Why is it needed in the army ???

      Not needed, of course. Shoigu needs her personally. At our expense.
  15. pav-pon1972
    pav-pon1972 21 November 2012 20: 57
    -12
    Wait, see ... Maybe a new political officer? Still, 2 (two) higher humanitarian education, and even very foolish in the Government of the Moscow region, these would not hold such high positions ....
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 22 November 2012 02: 05
      +1
      Quote: pav-pon1972
      Maybe a new political officer? Still, 2 (two) higher humanitarian education

      Shopi-pe-ec! laughing The Zapolit needs 1 (one) education, but a military one!
  16. MILITARY RF
    MILITARY RF 21 November 2012 21: 11
    +1
    Russian army .... these are lions soldier ... which the ram commands wassat (I'm not talking about Shaigu) but about this person ...... although the main thing is not gender ..... so that she does not know the words corruption and betrayal .... and she wakes up all the rules good
  17. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 21 November 2012 21: 14
    +4
    One such satellite helped launch ...
  18. CARBON
    CARBON 21 November 2012 21: 14
    +7
    We have thugs all around, and you ladi. I envy. Hopefully, all this "Caudle unmanageable" will someday be given a specific "star". Someone will be expelled abroad, someone will be shot at an edreni hair dryer and finally a normal, adequate ruler will come to our joy. I'm afraid it will take a long time. But if you look at Russia in the 10s of the 20th century, I think the denouement will still be like this.
    1. sleepy
      sleepy 22 November 2012 04: 55
      +2
      Quote: CARBON
      "But if you look at Russia in the 10s of the 20th century, I think the outcome will still be like this."
      .

      In Russia of the 10s of the 20th century there was no Internet, mobile communications, television and much more.
      The denouement came when the warring Russian soldiers on the German front began to fraternize with the Germans,
      because they did not understand why they were fighting at a time when families at home without men were starving.
      At that time, the overwhelming majority of the army were peasants, since the workers were held in defense plants.
      And the prosperous world eaters - "Miroed" means the destroyer of the people - were saved from the front thanks to their connections.
      When the starving have not enough bread, its time comes - the time of the moneylender.
      In August, the poor will give two bags for a bag of grain to feed a starving family.
      For seed bread - half the crop. A horse for a day - several days (up to a week) of working out.
      In the spring, a fist takes it from a horseless neighbor for debts or for a couple of bags of grain, he put it on his other neighbors, other neighbors process this field for debts, and the crop goes entirely to the “good owner”.
      Economic power over the neighbors is followed by political power: at the village gathering, the fist can automatically count on the support of all its debtors, passes to the village council itself or leads its people there, and so it becomes the true owner of the village, which now has no council.
      When Russian soldiers deserted from the front of the First World War with weapons in their hands, before shooting the generals of the tsarist army, then returning to their villages and villages, they set up bloody baths to these world-eaters, who were not left in debt.
      And then complete outrage began, each for itself.

  19. olegyurjewitch
    olegyurjewitch 21 November 2012 21: 15
    +6
    It seems that the entire previous Shoigu apparatus is moving smoothly into the Moscow Region.
    1. Lissyara
      Lissyara 22 November 2012 00: 40
      0
      It doesn’t look like it is.
      Moscow region is already at war.
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 22 November 2012 02: 08
        +2
        Quote: LiSSyara
        Moscow region is already at war.

        Honestly, to the region of us. When the army finally conquers, you will also be in the region for us.
        1. Vasiliev Nikolay
          Vasiliev Nikolay 22 November 2012 03: 38
          +3
          What army are we talking about?) Look what remains of it? The number has been reduced significantly, the barracks, military towns have died, missile silos are empty. The remainder of the staff, not all, but mostly - spineless schizos, sneaks, crooks and thieves. Schools and academies closed up, modern weapons ZERO, - only fed through the media, saying that by 2020 - the 30th army will receive - I delve into the numbers and there with Gulkin ...
          If you even imagine that Putin took and wanted to raise the prestige of the army, rearm it, then the funds for the ento are NULL. I would be glad to go to heaven - but do not let sins! The USA and the world elite leave Russia so much money that they only have enough for a pot. For clarity, this is the percentage of the refinancing rate. So now they’re fucking in Russia in order to survive, but to fill the gut, and the former military to get the legally prescribed side dishes, and housing. For the right to be sued by mafia judges)))
          If anyone can refute. pliz in studio, with the arguments. If anyone sees progress for the better from Putin, also pliz arguments, personally, I still do not see. And, you need to understand the main thing that the rearmament of the army, without raising the economy and other industries is IMPOSSIBLE. That's how we see positive progress, then it will be possible to talk about something.
          And, most importantly - for a positive guideline. If Russia does not refuse to peg the ruble to the dollar, then there is no point in talking about shifts in the positive.
          If someone does not agree with this statement, I ask you to refute, with arguments, without going to the person and correctly, or swim by!
          1. sleepy
            sleepy 22 November 2012 05: 07
            +1
            Quote: Pisez
            "If Russia does not give up pegging the ruble to the dollar, then there is no point in talking about positive developments either ..."


            I agree with this statement, but so far the Minister of Finance is working in a different direction.

            And yet, maybe not the topic ...
            "To all the powerful of this world!
            I hate lies, but your truth is even worse than lies. You have turned the City into a comfortable crib, and the citizens of the City into well-fed pigs. I do not want to be a well-fed pig, but I do not want to be a swineherd, and there is no third in your champing world.
            In your righteousness, you are complacent and mediocre, although, once, many of you were real people.
            There are my former friends among you, I appeal to them first of all.
            Words do not affect you, and I support them with my death.
            Maybe you will be ashamed, maybe scary, or maybe just uncomfortable in your stable.
            That's all I have left to hope for ... "
            Arkady and Boris Strugatsky. "City of the Doomed".

            Boris Strugatsky died ...
            1. Chamber No. 6
              Chamber No. 6 23 November 2012 21: 44
              0
              "Doomed City" ... In the subject. In the top ten. Exactly"!
              You can’t say more correctly, in my opinion ...
      2. taurus69
        taurus69 22 November 2012 13: 55
        0
        Mosk. reg. - min about.- my, so that the shoigu remained in its place, only received the title.
  20. sanyabasik
    sanyabasik 21 November 2012 21: 29
    +19
    The press service of Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin confirmed that Yana Lapikova, an activist of the pro-Kremlin youth organization Russia Young, as well as an ex-model and finalist of the Miss Moscow 2008 contest, has been appointed to the position of his personal photographer.

    Well, Shoigu, Serdyukov has someone to take an example from ..
    1. VAF
      VAF 21 November 2012 21: 38
      +5
      Quote: sanyabasik
      Well, Shoigu, Serdyukov has someone to take an example from ..


      Sanya, +! Killed by koment laughing lol good
    2. aksakal
      aksakal 21 November 2012 23: 09
      -4
      Quote: sanyabasik
      Well, Shoigu, Serdyukov has someone to take an example from ..
      - hit laughing laughing I posted the comment above (answer to the Joker), there suggested that Putin started this dick, but by chance got to the point - laughing laughing
      In general, pepper is clear. Five and a half years and went out - advice to the Russians. Indeed, one should not be in power for more than eight years - people simply lose their scent and think that Allah himself was seized by his beard
      1. Guun
        Guun 22 November 2012 00: 52
        -2
        I’m not understandable, why insult someone’s religion? Have you seen Allah? No? Then write about what! If there begins an insult to all religions, what will happen here?
        Do you even know how Allah is translated from Arabic? They are the only One who is punished with sincerity and love. From a Christian point of view, have you insulted the Father, why write something that offends and angers others? Because of people like YOU in Kazakhstan, and not only are people going to war because of such mean words from mean people! there are no words - BIT YOU! If you could crush these and the world would look calmer! We live in the same country, do you want to see each other? Just tell me everything in person, I live in Karaganda on a meeting, or I can come.
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т 22 November 2012 02: 11
          -1
          Quote: Guun
          Just no words - YOU BITCH!

          Do mindless "believers" (no matter who) lack arguments? laughing Pi Pets
          1. Guun
            Guun 22 November 2012 03: 13
            -5
            And what arguments should there be? Bitch is a literary expression. And I see you have more brains that determine who is with brains and who is not? Then any Orthodox Cossack will die for Christ. I will die for my God, For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland you do not remind you of anything "And even more so here is a MILITARY OBSERVER! Who will like it if they write this about Christ? Or about the Creator and Ruler of the Universe? Don't touch GOD and that's it! If an atheist go to the zoo and tell the monkey that you are my great-great-great-grandfather and discuss that he has many ungrateful evolutionary ones" brainless "descendants! Don't touch religion, why do you need it? If you want to discuss RELIGION, BUTTON in sites of a religious nature!"
            1. sleepy
              sleepy 22 November 2012 05: 31
              +5
              Guun

              But who offended these Russians?
              White paper of memory.

              The civil war, or rather, the massacre, has flared up on the territory of the USSR since the late 80s. They exterminated mainly Slavs and other Aryans (Russian-Russians, Russian-Ukrainians, Belarusians, Germans, etc.). The current Rulers, the direct Heirs of those former Rulers - are still hiding this bitter Truth from their people, their hands are also soiled in Slavic blood ...
              Only the smallest excerpts from the chronicle of the Slavic genocide:
              https://radosvet.net/4331-genocid-russkix-belaya-kniga-pamyati.html

              "In mid-February 1990, national Islamists literally tore to pieces XNUMX Russian men and women in Dushanbe. The women were forced to undress and run in circles on the square of the railway station under the roar of machine gun fire and the guffaw of rapists ..."

              These chilling stories about which Russian television stubbornly keeps silent “to avoid inciting ethnic hatred”, you can now hear from the miraculously surviving Russian refugees who have been trying for more than 15 years to find shelter, citizenship, sympathy and support from the Russian authorities . Useless. These gentlemen even did not give a damn about the genocide of the Russian people, abandoned to their own devices by Gorbachev, Yeltsin
              “In February 1990, exactly on the day of the next anniversary of the Islamic revolution in Iran, there was a pogrom of the Russian quarters of Dushanbe. The murder of ORT correspondent Nikulin in broad daylight, the shooting of a school bus with the children of Russian officers from a grenade launcher. The brutal massacre of an Orthodox priest in Dushanbe, arson temple, atrocities in cemeteries ... etc. " Vladimir Klenov, Dushanbe. "Pamir: a memory of the Russians"
              Anti-Russian pogroms swept across the city. "Tajikistan for Tajiks!" and “Russians, get out to your Russia!” - The main slogans of the pogromists. Russians were robbed, raped and killed even in their own apartments. Not spared and children. Tajikistan did not know such savagery ... Vladimir Starikov. "The long road to Russia."
              "... And in March, as soon as the railway began to work, the first wave of departing Russians rushed to the freight station for containers, to the railway station and the airport for tickets. Out of seven hundred thousand inhabitants of the then Dushanbe, three hundred thousand were Russians. Soon there was a shortage of doctors and teachers in Russian classes. My daughter in the eighth grade for six months was absent from a physics teacher, which forced us to transfer her to another school. It was during these days that the famous slogan was born: “Russians, do not leave - we need slaves!” He decorated fences. city ​​until the day of our family's departure from Tajikistan.
              "... in October 1991, already in a free atmosphere, when Anatoly Sobchak, a Russian democrat and Putin's" godfather ", said his famous" there are no Russians here, there are communists here. "
              1. sleepy
                sleepy 22 November 2012 05: 37
                +4
                However, one should not think that the Russians in Kazakhstan did not become victims of the same processes that occurred and are taking place in other regions. Yes, in this republic there was no massacre; here the Russians were ousted "in a civilized manner." The ideology on which the policy towards Russians began to be based since the late 80s was formulated by the local ethnographer Makash Tatimov. It was his thesis that was repeatedly voiced by the President of Kazakhstan N. Nazarbayev. The essence of his doctrine, the goal that it pursues, Tatimov formulated as follows: "conflict-free retreat of the former imperial nation" - that is, Russian.
                For the first time, chauvinistic tendencies loudly appeared in Kazakhstan in December 1986.
                That December riot of 1986 was neither spontaneous nor spontaneous: the posters and banners carried by the "rebels" were made one year, two, or even three years before the events.
                The official talk about the social causes of the riots was completely untenable. In the slogans under which the "rebels" spoke, there was not a single word about material distress or housing disorder. “Long live the Kazakhs!” (“Cossack Zhassasyn !!!”) - this is what a crowd of thousands chanted at the full power of a young mouthful. “Kazakhstan is for Kazakhs!”, “Kazakh must govern Kazakhstan!”
                The "spontaneous" performance was surprisingly amicably supported throughout the south of Kazakhstan.
                But the main thing that was revealed during the investigation, which was the least enjoyable and completely destroyed Kunaev’s legend about the “laboratory of friendship of peoples”, was obvious: sooner or later ethnic cleansing was coming here. ” Over the years, the intellectual Kazakh elite has been preparing the ideological justification for the future great ethnic cleansing.
                The result of inspired work was summed up by the ethnographer Makash Tatimov.
                Since then, the main theses of the "Tatimov doctrine" have been repeatedly voiced by N. Nazarbayev personally.
                Here is their brief point.

                The ethnic situation in which the Kazakhs were in a numerical minority on their land was created artificially, at the behest of the "Moscow center", by starvation and expulsion of Kazakhs in the process of collectivization of the 30s, as well as as a result of the use of the territory of Kazakhstan for mass exile and deportation, especially the Germans, Chechens and Koreans. Well, since the situation was artificially created, the Kazakh people have all the rights, and most importantly, the moral right, to overcome this situation also by artificial methods.
                Under the Union, M. Tatimov kept quiet about the essence of these methods, later, as an adviser to President Nazarbayev, he became much more frank, expressing his thought as follows: "conflict-free retreat of the former imperial nation" - that is, Russians ...
                Since a large number of Kazakhs live outside of Kazakhstan, it is necessary to provide a "horde basy" at the state level - "a union of hordes", that is, the unification of all Kazakhs in a single state.
                As a result, by 2010, it is planned to restore historical justice destroyed by the "hand of Moscow" and to form an ethnically homogeneous electorate. To get a fuller picture of the picture, let us turn to the figures cited in the article by Ertaulov, which we have already quoted: “Since 1993, the massive departure of the Russian population, which continues to this day, begins. The peak of this process so far falls on 1994: more than 300 thousand Russians left Kazakhstan that year, almost as many as the total number of Russians left Dudayev's Chechnya.
                This sad "record" was almost closed in 1998 - about 250 thousand.
                Approximately the same figure marks the year 1999.
                Currently, the migration service of the Russian Federation estimates the number of Russian immigrants from Kazakhstan at 2 million.
                This figure is underestimated by at least 1 million.
                From 1994 to 1996, the Nazarbayev regime introduced a regulation on the classification of all data on migration and ethnography.
                In 1993-95, the "German exodus" followed ...
                Guun - Whom did these Russians offend? Did they insult the Almighty? Affected believers?
                1. Guun
                  Guun 22 November 2012 12: 28
                  -2
                  I’ll just give one case out of many. A philosopher often took liberties and abused his faith in his lessons. Two student boys, one 17 another 18 told their friends about it. A friend from Hizb ut-Tahrir was also 18 years old. Kind people gave them instruction and weapons. So this pid-dog killed in his own words these guys and a couple of people from the capture group. Providers must be planted! They undermine the world, not worse than terrorists. Who gives a guarantee that he will not be expelled by IP and not put him down? And then again the boys will have to be imprisoned for 10 years or more! Hizb ut-Tahrir works with the young population, and these provocateurs do much worse! If it weren’t for them, HALF of these crimes would not have happened and our youth would not have been so much processed by this sect!
                  I just lost a lot of comrades because of words thrown by some asshole!

                  Quote: sleepy
                  Guun - Whom did these Russians offend? Did they insult the Almighty? Affected believers?

                  In my team of 15 people there are 9 Russians. They are all my friends. I have a Russian grandmother.
                  1. sleepy
                    sleepy 23 November 2012 04: 24
                    0
                    Quote: Guun
                    "Good people gave them instruction and weapons.
                    So this pid-dagog killed himself, these guys and a couple of people from the capture group with his words. Provocateurs must be imprisoned! "


                    The teacher did not kill anyone, but simply had his own point of view.
                    If this teacher wanted to find the Way to the Almighty, he would have found it, but not by force.

                    "Good people" give not weapons, but give the WORD.
                    The provocateurs must first be judged by law, and the provocateurs are those who give instruction and weapons,
                    staying away.

                    Guun Who did these Russians offend? Did they insult the Almighty? Affected believers?

                    Guun
                    "My grandmother is Russian."
                    So it’s not Russian anymore, as in the next generation, the children of 9 Russians from the collective will not be Russian.
                    For example, China assimilated about 700 thousand Russians who fled towards Harbin.
                    during the civil war in Russia.
                    Assimilated in one generation. Only the Chinese remained.
            2. sleepy
              sleepy 23 November 2012 04: 08
              0
              Quote: Guun
              "If you are an atheist, go to the zoo and tell the monkey that you are my great-great-great-grandfather and discuss that he has many ungrateful evolutionary" brainless "descendants."
              .

              Darin's theory could not convincingly prove the origin of man from a monkey.
              So far, no material remains of the transition from a monkey to a man have been found.
              For example, skulls and bones of dinosaurs are found, but skull-bones of a monkey-man have not been found so far.
              And more unpleasant news for fans of Darwin's theory about the origin of man from a monkey has been recently presented to the studies of geneticists.
              Genetically, a man looks like a monkey, like a horse looks like a gelding - a castrated stallion.
              That is, the difference in the proportional ratio is vanishingly small, but this difference is significant.
              Stallion capable of what is not capable gelding.
              Man is capable of what the monkey is not capable of.
              Why, then, is this theory about the origin of man not removed from textbooks?
              Everything is very simple - then you have to admit the existence of providence and that man was created "in the image and likeness ..."
              By the way, many researchers can independently recognize the external force when creating a person,
              and then the monkeys are just an additional creation in the animal kingdom.
              The book "Physics of Faith" describes a case when scientists independently came to the realization of Divine power on the basis of their experiments. This discouraged them, since before that they did not think about the moral responsibility of their actions to the Almighty.

        2. Evgen232
          Evgen232 22 November 2012 02: 53
          0
          names are not translated
    3. VeteranVSK
      VeteranVSK 22 November 2012 00: 24
      0
      And again "babovschina" ???? bully
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 22 November 2012 02: 12
        +1
        Quote: VeteranVSK
        And again "babovschina" ???? bully

        No, the continuation of "putkovschina" laughing
  21. Fox
    Fox 21 November 2012 21: 32
    +4
    this shoigu landed the sun ....
  22. 916-th
    916-th 21 November 2012 21: 39
    +2
    We did not expect such news from the Ministry of Defense ...
  23. sanyabasik
    sanyabasik 21 November 2012 21: 40
    +7
    "The most beautiful woman Serdyukov" went to Yakunin

    Marina Chubkina, 31, who left the post of chief of staff of the director of the Federal Agency for Special Construction (Spetsstroy of Russia) of the Ministry of Defense with the departure of Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov, has been appointed adviser to the head of Russian Railways Vladimir Yakunin, the Russian News Service reports.
    Before joining the military department, Chubkina worked for several years as an assistant to a deputy of the State Duma, as well as an adviser to a member of the Federation Council. In 2010, she went to work at the Ministry of Defense, where she changed several posts. Anatoly Serdyukov took an active part in her fate, transferring Chubkin from St. Petersburg to Moscow.

    I think everyone understands ... They just forgot to ask us.. sad
    1. Lissyara
      Lissyara 21 November 2012 23: 01
      +3
      I also have a new Anna Karenina.
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 22 November 2012 02: 13
        +2
        Quote: LiSSyara
        I also have a new Anna Karenina.

        It would be nice so! laughing
      2. Armata
        Armata 22 November 2012 18: 51
        0
        Quote: LiSSyara
        I also have a new Anna Karenina
        Well, under the train, the young lady.
      3. Region-25.rus
        Region-25.rus 23 November 2012 07: 37
        +1
        Quote: LiSSyara
        I also have a new Anna Karenina.


        Have you tried the train? Maybe it's worth a try? bully
  24. drum.77
    drum.77 21 November 2012 21: 44
    0
    again cute women "in their" place angry
  25. ded
    ded 21 November 2012 21: 51
    +1
    New KHAN - new harem!
  26. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov 21 November 2012 21: 58
    -19
    Whatever the new minister does, he does as he sees fit ... The main thing is that this would not negatively affect the army ... I believe in the decency of Shoigu, unlike the provocateurs in this forum, mowing down under the patriots of Russia .. .

    Whatever the new minister does, he should do what he sees fit ... For twenty years, he never let him doubt his decency ... I believe Shoigu, unlike the false cheers-patriots in this forum .. . I am writing a second time, since the moderator did not miss the first time ...
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 21 November 2012 22: 09
      +16
      A decent person will not create a special service under his daughter in the department, and even appoint a director of this service. And in general, what has forgotten, for 20 years already, a decent person in this freak circus?
      1. Orthodox warrior
        Orthodox warrior 21 November 2012 22: 39
        +1
        mikado,
        Sorry, put a minus accidentally instead of a plus. Please excuse me!
      2. donchepano
        donchepano 22 November 2012 07: 32
        0
        where is decency
      3. sleepy
        sleepy 23 November 2012 04: 31
        +1
        Quote: Mikado
        "And in general, what have you forgotten, for as long as 20 years, a decent person in this circus of freaks?"
        .

        About the circus I can only good.
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist 21 November 2012 23: 15
      -3
      Yes, relax. It’s the same as coming to a stranger’s yard on a steep Porsche or Merce - all the grandmothers on the benches will immediately begin to say how much you stole, and indeed you need to shoot such people. Most often people are not interested in the content, they cradle their strereotypes. And on them you can draw conclusions about a person. Often - with deep regret.
      1. sleepy
        sleepy 22 November 2012 06: 08
        +2
        Quote: Botanologist
        "... all the grandmothers on the benches will immediately begin to say how you stole so much, and indeed ..."
        .

        It's like Vladimir Semenovich Vysotsky’s song about
        "... there are rumors in the houses ... and toothless old women carry them to minds ...".

    3. sleepy
      sleepy 22 November 2012 06: 01
      +3
      Quote: Gorchakov
      "... he must do what he sees fit ... For twenty years, he has never given any doubts about his decency ... I believe Shoigu, in contrast to the false-hurray-patriots on this forum ..."
      .

      "Let's hope Shoigu does not let him down. It seems that he has shown himself well in the Emergencies Ministry."

      For this Shoigu in advance was awarded the highest award of the Order of Malta.
      Or maybe he was recorded in the masses ... or took an apprentice.

      http://topwar.ru/16192-shoygu-udostoen-vysshey-nagrady-maltiyskogo-ordena-za-mil
      oserdie-spasenie-i-pomosch.html # comment-id-449105
      1. sv-sakh
        sv-sakh 22 November 2012 07: 02
        +4
        The Ministry of Emergencies has shown disgusting itself more than once ...
  27. Botanologist
    Botanologist 21 November 2012 21: 59
    -5
    Well, what are you attached to the girl? What, in the Ministry of Emergency Situations they were not? There were. But nobody bought Iveka and Mistral. If you recall, Shoigu is the only, perhaps, minister who priority bought our equipment. And he spoke about it directly. So there is no need here to spread beads. Envy silently.
    1. sanyabasik
      sanyabasik 21 November 2012 22: 09
      +8
      Quote: Botanologist
      Well, what are you attached to the girl? What, in the Ministry of Emergency Situations they were not? There were.

      I think there were, are and will be. This is probably normal from a certain point of view.
      But let them be supported by the "powerful of this world", maybe it is superfluous to put them in positions and confer the rank of the actual state adviser of the Russian Federation of the 3rd class, which corresponds to the military rank of major general !?
      wine and women will be brought to the zugunder ...[ feel b]
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 21 November 2012 23: 11
        -4
        But let them be on the maintenance of the "powerful of this world", maybe this is too much to put them in positions

        Yes, it is clear, "all the women are fools", "all the men are goats", some smart guys have gathered here and pour shit on a person whom they do not know. What a fucking meaningful discussion!
        And you yourself, my dear, keep a lot of women for your personal wallet? And probably forbid them to work, let the houses stand at the stove, right?

        For example, I worked with aunts no less cute than Kitaeva. And I want to say that the myths about the blondes were invented by the blondes themselves. At the negotiations, they bent the men so much that they only grunted with anger. This is me, for example.
        So get down. As in the beer bomzhatnik - women fools, the cops are power alone, we are such cool Dartanyans. Do you disgust yourself?
        1. Lissyara
          Lissyara 21 November 2012 23: 15
          -1
          Nerd, + you.
          If Feldmebl had a professional team of thieves and crooks, then it is inappropriate to immediately transfer the "woman's battalion" to Shoigu.
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 21 November 2012 23: 29
            -1
            Thank you.
            But I really hate it when some goofy starts to offend a person just because he is "not like that." Moreover, he poses as a defender of the people.
            1. s1н7т
              s1н7т 22 November 2012 02: 19
              +1
              You yourself are a dodger, banana-statesman! laughing
              "Not like that" - annoying. Blue, or what?
    2. Lissyara
      Lissyara 21 November 2012 23: 07
      -2
      Why did Botan get minuses?
      You can poke me.
      Man is man to man, and it doesn’t matter, his eggs hang between his legs, or his boobs are on top.
      The main thing is to do their work, be responsible for fulfilling their duties and not transfer money in Serdyukov-Zhenichkin counts.
      I have 9 women in my office who wore officer uniforms. Absolutely normal and adequate people. Well, you can’t put everyone on a par under one comb. I have a mother officer, a former colonel in the military medical service. She is not respected only because she is a woman?
      1. sanyabasik
        sanyabasik 21 November 2012 23: 22
        +6
        Quote: LiSSyara
        mother officer, former colonel of the military medical service

        Your mother received the shoulder straps of Colonel ms, having gone the way from the lieutenant, there was no talk of respect or disrespect ..
        And it’s not women who are discussing it, but the actions of individuals on whom certain hopes and faith were entrusted.
        Someone put down the disadvantages of Botan out of anger because of "collapsed hopes and lost faith" ... It feels like people are on their nerves, expecting one thing, and getting a little different. No.
        Yes, just now I noticed about "envy in silence" ... Many of us, not in front of women, said "a stigma in the gun", but that bl ... which was going on in the MO (I would like to hope that was going on) no one is jealous.
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 21 November 2012 23: 35
          +1
          people on the nerves

          Well, as in a joke.
          Tram, minus 30 on the street, a drug addict comes in. And he is wonderful, he opens the window. The crowd yells to him - "Goat! Close the window! It's minus 30 outside!"
          The addict sharpened and asks: "And if I close the window - on the street will it become warmer?"

          Let’s separate the nerves from the content of our discussions here.
        2. Lissyara
          Lissyara 21 November 2012 23: 58
          +4
          Alexander, not even from the lieutenant, but from the sergeant (only after the medical institute asterisks appeared). I'm talking about maman.
          So, about my aunts. "Average probable spread" of epaulettes (as he spoke in aviation), from senior to lieutenant colonel. And moreover, these dragged service with their husbands in the garrisons, and ended up in Moscow only because (basically all, with rare exceptions), that the husbands were transferred here to serve (mainly in the region). They took off their shoulder straps only because of "Taburetkina's concern for the RF Armed Forces." Moreover, half of my beauties mostly graduated from military higher educational institutions. And by the way, they do not regret that they left the Armed Forces, when until now women in combat units have not been taken seriously (no more than a nurse, doctor, signalman, cook, etc.).
          As an example, I have an employee Alyonushka, a charm and a charm, a chief engineer of an air defense air defense air defense system, an air force major, and a talented programmer, will give odds to many men.
          It's just that our people are flattening from extreme to extreme. If a woman is in the army - this means that in office hours you can use the horizontal position. Sick of such thoughts. And after that, it is not surprising that the civilian people speak of us, that we have one gyrus in the brain, and that of the cap. (Although I’m not offended by morons, I myself received KTN at the Scientific Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense.) But I would kill am angry
          1. sanyabasik
            sanyabasik 22 November 2012 00: 22
            0
            Quote: LiSSyara
            So, about their aunts.

            Sergei, if you carefully read the comments, you can see that the majority writes not about the "horizontal position", but bl .. he calls the mess that is happening.
            You for would kill am big +++ laughing
            Himself the same ..
            Good night, take my leave.
      2. Botanologist
        Botanologist 21 November 2012 23: 31
        -2
        Do not rash beads in front of those who put cons. I don’t care about their modest sexual fantasies. I worked and work with women who have more steepness in one finger than these minusers in their entire body.
        1. sleepy
          sleepy 22 November 2012 06: 13
          +2
          With such a girl, I would also work for a couple.
          1. commbatant
            commbatant 25 November 2012 21: 44
            +1
            you all misunderstood ...
      3. Botanologist
        Botanologist 22 November 2012 00: 08
        +3
        Yes, it is only in foreign armies that women react normally. And with us - are you sure that these fools know about the Kalashnikov assault rifle!
        But when we start talking about the principles of information warfare - this is a difficult topic, everyone spits on America. And no one thought who in America is doing an information war? Cool warriors with a minigun behind their backs or girls in skirts and with special education?
        Not, the main thing is to yell that everyone is bad, women are prostitutes, and if you haven’t fought, you shouldn’t be fucked up at the Ministry of Defense. And then such a girl comes from the State Department, pulls such screamers to the very tonsils, and only they spit and yell from their mouths - where did they look? Why didn’t information wars wage? We have so many military generals disappearing for informational, cybernetic and other wars!
        1. Alexei
          Alexei 22 November 2012 01: 50
          +3
          So let's see what she will fight in the information war, let's see ...
      4. old rocket man
        old rocket man 22 November 2012 00: 37
        +2
        Quote: LiSSyara
        eggs hanging between his legs, or boobs on top

        +, but it is better that the boobs do not hang laughing
        By the way, some kind of crap: I put nerd +, and minus gets out
        1. sanyabasik
          sanyabasik 22 November 2012 09: 03
          +3
          Quote: Old Rocketman
          By the way, some kind of crap: I put nerd +, and minus gets out

          What, missed the old rocket? laughing Well, laughed .. laughing
      5. Alex_g23r
        Alex_g23r 24 November 2012 00: 35
        +1
        > Do not respect her just because she is a woman?

        It's not about respect, not about her gender, but about professional suitability for work in the Moscow Region. We are waiting for the publication of her duties.
    3. gispanec
      gispanec 22 November 2012 00: 09
      +1
      Quote: Botanologist
      Envy silently.

      and you are a deer ......
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 22 November 2012 00: 25
        -3
        and you are a deer ......

        hi Well, yes, there is a lot of calcium in the body. Have you gotten anywhere nowhere? Then to the doctor.
      2. s1н7т
        s1н7т 22 November 2012 02: 22
        -4
        Quote: gispanec
        and you are a deer ......

        He is worse. He is the electorate of Putin.
  28. Gesha
    Gesha 21 November 2012 21: 59
    +1
    I have no words ! Alone .....! This will advise!
  29. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 21 November 2012 22: 01
    +1
    Well let’s let the magazine men hang noodles on their ears. It’s suitable. The main thing is that it doesn’t grow on the scale of a battalion.
  30. IllI4
    IllI4 21 November 2012 22: 03
    0
    Deja vu ...
    Disappointed to the core.
  31. Edya
    Edya 21 November 2012 22: 06
    0
    An apple from an apple tree will not fall far ....... that's all I wanted to say
  32. Spartakv
    Spartakv 21 November 2012 22: 08
    +2
    Th - fu - y - yo !!!
  33. sprut
    sprut 21 November 2012 22: 13
    +5
    Sewed on soap ... Everything is new ...
    1. merkel1961
      merkel1961 21 November 2012 23: 11
      +1
      sprutWhether the needle was sewn or the soap was sewn, but the news spoiled the mood, judging by the comments, a fact.
    2. s1н7т
      s1н7т 22 November 2012 02: 23
      +1
      Quote: sprut
      Everything is new...

      Everything is just the old way. Stability, type! laughing
  34. Normal
    Normal 21 November 2012 22: 14
    +8
    Fools and roads as they were and remained. Industry and agriculture are breathing. There are no allies in international relations. The army was reformed to half-death. In the power of embezzlers and balabol.
    And only women in Russia are still the best in the world ... wink
  35. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov 21 November 2012 22: 16
    -4
    The guys, the majority of those who are on this forum, wore or are wearing shoulder straps of officers ... I know for sure that not a single officer with a sense of honor will ever discuss a stranger to him, let alone a girl ... (This does not apply to those who have compromised yourself and MO predators) Everything that happens under this article is more like babbling of market gossips ... You were all so happy about Shoigu's arrival and suddenly you were shocked, as if the minister had appointed someone to a leadership position .... Even without knowing anything, you are ready raise a wave of hatred ... How does it look like tolerant opponents ... Sorry ... It's low ...
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 21 November 2012 23: 21
      +5
      Quote: Gorchakov
      who has a sense of honor, will never discuss a stranger to him, let alone a girl ... (This does not apply to predators who have compromised themselves and MO) Everything that happens under this article is more like babble of gossip gossip ... You were all so happy about Shoigu’s arrival and all of a sudden it was full of you, as if the minister had appointed someone to a managerial position .... Even without knowing anything, you are ready to raise a wave of hatred ... How does this look like tolerant opponents ... It's a pity ... It's low ...
      - Mr. good, we live a lot - already by the face (physiognomy) and by the way, even by ourselves, we will take unconscious signs of who she is and what she is. And this is confirmed by a biography - a completely non-core education for such a high position in the Ministry of Defense + lack of life experience due to youth (not, youth, of course, a drawback that quickly passes, but experience is needed now, and not when youth passes) laughing ). Looks like a girl she is nice, but "nice" is not a profession, alas.
      Quote: Gorchakov
      .Even not knowing anything, you are ready to raise a wave of hatred ... How does this look like tolerant opponents ... It's a pity ... It's low ...
      - everything is simple - let it go and do journalism or make films, it’s possible even in porn, but only away from the Army, there are already enough women in such a specific body, they got burned. Gorchakov, do you seem like a fan of stepping on a rake many times?
      1. commbatant
        commbatant 25 November 2012 19: 34
        0
        she probably already knows where she should go without you, yet she goes to work in a civil service in the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, and not in the Defense Ministry of the RK ...
    2. skullcap
      skullcap 22 November 2012 11: 13
      +4
      Gorchakov Yesterday, 22: 16
      You were all so happy about the arrival of Shoigu and suddenly you got flooded ...
      -----------------------------------------------------------
      They were happy - because they hoped for good changes. The girl, most likely, is not herself to blame, and I fully agree with you that discussing her personality here is extremely dishonorable.
      But the fact of her appointment to the Ministry of Defense is a clear signal that, by and large, nothing will change and the collapse of the army will continue.
      This explains the wave of perturbations on the site.
      By the way, I deliberately did not write when Shoigu was appointed minister that, while living in the post of governor of the Moscow region, he recommended the position of first deputy aunt Antonov.
      She is known in the region for driving a number of apartments that were intended for teachers, but in the course of the investigation turned out to be not only innocent, but was also accepted by Gromov in his mafia as Minister of Education of the region.
      In general, the recommendation Shoigu caused then all the bewilderment.
      And this appointment, as we see, also caused bewilderment that spilled onto the Internet, since the scale of this act affects the entire country.
  36. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 21 November 2012 22: 16
    +2
    It’s good that at least I didn’t appoint him to command the aerospace defense.
  37. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 21 November 2012 22: 19
    0
    Come on guys, if only Kuzhugetovich’s wife didn’t leave her, otherwise it would be homeless, what kind of service would it be?
  38. will go
    will go 21 November 2012 22: 34
    +5
    It seems to me that in the foreseeable future, the pitchfork among the people will become a deficit!
  39. alex-defensor
    alex-defensor 21 November 2012 22: 36
    -7
    So, Guys, ... And let's not discuss the sex life of the ministry and its ministers ... I would also take this as my secretary ... wassat if there was such an opportunity ...
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 21 November 2012 23: 28
      +2
      Quote: alex-defensor
      And let's not discuss the sex life of the ministry and its ministers ... I would have taken one to myself as a secretary too ... if there was such an opportunity ..

      If it were a private company, then you are right!
      This is the Ministry of Defense !!!!!
      There is nowhere else to part in the box ??
      1. kush62
        kush62 22 November 2012 04: 22
        -2
        And with what yarbei took that dumb. If it was necessary for a lady, then so that she was wrapped up in a burqa?
        1. alex-defensor
          alex-defensor 23 November 2012 01: 05
          +1
          Hi, Yarbay, how are you?
          I actually hoped that despite the military theme of the site, its forums with humor are still better than in the army ... laughing laughing laughing
          Well this was a joke .... just the girl is very beautiful ... agree, men!?!?


          PS For what zaminusili, did not understand, it seems, and the corresponding emoticon ... belay
    2. Region-25.rus
      Region-25.rus 23 November 2012 08: 43
      +2
      Quote: alex-defensor
      I’d also take this to myself as a secretary ..


      In the secretary you need to take specialists and not for beautiful eyes! Or besides his work, he will have to control the fulfillment of the duties of a certain young and attractive person! In general, I want to share my own experience of working with a female in a professional environment!
      The working environment consists in interior design and 3D modeling and visualization of architectural and design projects.
      So in order! I have been working in this field for almost 8 years, without education! I will briefly describe individual cases:
      1 - 2005th year! worked in one of the studios in tandem with a certified "specialist" (a young lady of a very good appearance) - performed visualizations according to her projects - came to work at about 10 o'clock, forty minutes guiding a marathon, talking on the phone with friends, then a little work, from 11.30 to 13.00 lunch, then a little more work, then "I need to run away early" .. The result - eternal jambs in the project, ill-conceived structural elements, builders' mats and my headaches!
      2 - 2007-2008! Work in the studio again, but this time I just had observations from the outside. Again, a pleasant young lady. most of the working time is hanging on dating sites, skype and mail agent, gossip, intirzhki and more! At work so-and-so according to the mood! the result - the one who worked in a pair of smut with drawings and then dismantling with the builders, me - eternal twitching with "tell me, show me, and help, but how and why?"
      3 - in 2009-2010 I did visualization according to the projects of one female "designer" - the same thing! The information was minuscule, a tyap-blooper was submitted, I had to modify a lot myself (although this was not part of my duties).
      4 - 2011 again dared to participate in the project with .... a pretty lady from another city! The scheme of work is approximately the same as paragraph 3 (see above), with the only difference being that to the ambassador’s half of the project!
      5 - 2012 project again, this time our compatriot living in the USA! The result is similar to paragraphs 3 and 4 only with the difference that the project still reached the final!
      6 - There were about a dozen offers of cooperation (I'm all about the female gender) but after preliminary interviews I simply politely refused
      7 - five orders for graduation projects from future young specialists (little is understood for the sixth year in the subject). Orders are executed, protected (one three, three excellent, one four), but the glory to the Almighty in the specialty of the customer does not work)))
      1. Region-25.rus
        Region-25.rus 23 November 2012 08: 45
        +1
        continuation of the topic:

        Positive experience! But, as usual in a barrel of tar and there were spoons of honey))
        1 - A student came from a neighboring town to take a couple of 3D lessons, seemingly just a classic blonde! But !!! I was pleasantly surprised by the craving for knowledge, questions and, in general, the inner world of man! (warning smirks and taunts - for lessons and work I take only in national currency and not in kind)
        2 - There was an order for the visualization of the graduation project from Moscow (where I live I can see by nickname) is also a young person, but (again No!) It was clear that a person was tearing his heart and soul for his work! Participated in full! even had an argument with a boyfriend feel ) we just discussed on Skype the problems of inconsistencies) He works by profession and now we continue to communicate and exchange experiences!
        3 - Well, the last! For more than three years I have been collaborating with an architect from another city, a woman well over forty, a pro in her field, in work, thinks about work! And I hope we will continue cooperation further!
        These are the statistics of my personal experience! I will not say anything about a stranger! What I know is not inspiring! And ...... again warning commentators who like to reduce EVERYTHING on the topic "below the belt" - personally, I have a rule - NOTHING PERSONAL AT WORK! ONLY WORK!!!

        Conclusion - everyone selects employees or colleagues for themselves! But for work "above the waist" or below (I'm talking about working with a head or head) This is something you decide for yourself!
  40. Vasiliev Nikolay
    Vasiliev Nikolay 21 November 2012 22: 39
    -7
    It’s time to know that in Russia everything is seized by the oligarchs and clans. The army is no exception. Not for that, they all got theirs. so as not to steal.
  41. uizik
    uizik 21 November 2012 22: 39
    +2
    Of course it’s nice to have a beautiful adviser nearby, but it’s better not to be beautiful and tested and competent. And so it is fraught!
  42. Tatanka Yotanka
    Tatanka Yotanka 21 November 2012 22: 40
    +2
    Granny, of course, cute, how can the reindeer breeders resist. but it was also possible to attach a personal secretary, what kind of specialist is she? - as they say, "young green"
    warps the word - adviser, what can she advise?
  43. sniper
    sniper 21 November 2012 22: 45
    +7
    It’s bitter and insulting .... I don’t want to say anything bad about the new adviser .... Maybe she really is an irreplaceable specialist, I don’t know, but the fact that knowing what kind of noise will raise such an appointment, it still took place ... It only speaks about the fact that everyone doesn’t care what we think and what we’ll talk about .... In this vein, this appointment is really scary ...
  44. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov 21 November 2012 22: 46
    -9
    Your cons, only confirm that on this forum the majority of Serdyukov's adherents are rather than Shoigu ... You are women, not officers .... !!! Ugh ...
    1. kush62
      kush62 26 November 2012 07: 01
      0
      Gorchakov, I agree with you. We didn’t have time to fart on one side of the village, but on the other side everyone was shouting crap. What ahead of time ahead dad to run.
      The commander’s order is not discussed.
  45. soldat1945
    soldat1945 21 November 2012 22: 48
    +3
    Let's wait for specific decisions of the General Staff, because the main load in all decisions within the Moscow Defense Ministry will be borne by the NSS, and they put a worthy general there, I served under him.
    1. Alexander K.
      Alexander K. 21 November 2012 23: 26
      +4
      I agree with you, NGS is a key figure! The main crime of Serdyukov, in my opinion, is the worthless clown Makarov in this most important post.
      Gerasimov’s appointment is the most positive news of recent times.
      1. Lissyara
        Lissyara 22 November 2012 00: 03
        0
        At least a couple of intelligent men.
  46. gansik
    gansik 21 November 2012 22: 49
    +4
    Women's Battalion, Series 2?
  47. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 21 November 2012 22: 51
    +5
    post passed! post accepted!
    1. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 21 November 2012 22: 58
      +3
      plyusanu- since I do not have illusions, myself in the Ministry
  48. uizik
    uizik 21 November 2012 22: 56
    -1
    If you can’t do without women in the Army. There is a proposal by Seminovich to appoint the commander of the tank brigade and other beauties, depending on age and merit in show business, to shove around military units
  49. Lissyara
    Lissyara 21 November 2012 23: 00
    +1
    No, there won't be a woman’s battalion.
    Shoigu listens to people in uniform, and the concept of "little green men" left the Arbat military district.
    Well, women are also human people. I remember Kitaev from the reports, and about her work in the government of the region they are not talking badly about her.
    So I believe and hope that there will be no next brothel over the Arbatskaya metro station. wassat
  50. berserk1967
    berserk1967 21 November 2012 23: 02
    0
    Ministers are changing, but they are still thinking in the same place.