Russian Aerospace Forces began to use high-precision glide bombs in the NMD zone

As part of a special operation, the Russian Aerospace Forces began to use gliding precision-guided aerial bombs created on the basis of FAB-500 M62 free-falling bombs. The unexploded Russian aerial bomb found on the outskirts of Donetsk served as proof of this.

In the Kuibyshevsky district of the capital of the DPR, an unexploded FAB-500 M62 bomb was found on one of the streets. This munition is said to have fallen from a Russian front-line bomber due to a technical malfunction. But this is not the main thing, on the bomb itself detected wings, and at a distance of about 500 meters from the crash site - a control and correction unit, which makes high-precision ammunition out of a free-falling bomb.

That the Russian front aviation received satellite-guided gliding bombs, modified from standard FAB-500 M62 free-fall bombs, it was reported in early January of this year. However, no evidence for this was presented.

According to the Telegram channel "Older Edda", air bombs of this type became the "long-awaited response" used by the Americans JDAM, Russian Su-24 and Su-34 front-line bombers were able to hit targets from a distance of 30-40 kilometers without entering the Ukrainian air defense strike zone .

The appearance of such complexes in the arsenal of the Russian Aerospace Forces makes it possible to turn 250 and 500 kg aerial bombs into precision-guided munitions, of which there are still quite a large number in warehouses.

Earlier it was reported that the Russian Aerospace Forces used UPAB-1500 loitering aerial bombs to strike at the fortified area of ​​Avdiivka.

Comments

[WILL]

Maybe already put an end to Avdiyivka using FAB 9000?
The civilian population has not been there for a long time, whom do we regret?

[invisible_man]

A typical urban defense knot is a trench with 3-5 arrows between houses. It is too expensive to spend on half of the FAB-9000 ukp department. Not enough bombs and missiles.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote from invisible_man

Not enough bombs and missiles.

But we seem to have too many people.

[invisible_man]

People are also being saved, so there hasn’t been much promotion there for a year now.
The alternative is to put a battalion at each village, as during the Second World War.
To successfully break open such fortifications with minimal losses, high-precision weapons are needed, which we do not have. With reconnaissance and target designation in real time, things are also not in the best way.

[Gpn27]

High-precision weapons are also not cheap. Ukrainians use the isolation of a separate position by drones, which hang over it day and night, preventing the delivery of ammunition, food, and the evacuation of the wounded.

[invisible_man]

Yes, it is not cheap, but it also hits targets more accurately. Where you need 2 hundreds of conventional shells, you can get by with 2-3 precision-guided munitions that fly into a gap a couple of meters wide. Saving not only money, but also time. In war, this is a critical resource.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote from invisible_man

The alternative is to put a battalion at each village, as during the Second World War.

An alternative is (for example) the use of AVBPM (High Power Aviation Vacuum Bomb) for such targets.

In addition, the temperature at the center of the explosion of the Russian AVBPM is 2 times higher than that of MOAB, the radius of destruction (300 m) is also 2 times larger. In terms of the mass of the charge, the power of the used explosive (BB) exceeds the power of TNT by 6,2 times (1,34 times for MOAB).

[invisible_man]

You must first have at least some semblance of air supremacy. He doesn't exist either.)

[Muromczev-2015]

Do you want the conditions for the use of high-precision weapons to be like in a shooting range? :) After the invention of MANPADS and ATGMs, no other army in the world will have such ideal conditions.

[Kronos]

In general, no, they don't save. How Ugledar was stormed, for example, you already know.

[Sergey Drozdov]

You say "put a battalion at each village, as in the days of the Second World War" ... well, now, I hope, the art of war has improved a lot?

[stankow]

Zto "vy" who? Because the article is just about the Russian WTO (guided by Glonass). Apparently it is. And applied.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

"It fell on the outskirts of Donetsk ..." And if it exploded? Or does it have protection against operation during an abnormal fall, like on nuclear bombs?

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

But we seem to have too many people.

It's like shooting a sparrow from a cannon.

[Seryoga64]

Quote from invisible_man

A typical urban defense knot is a trench with 3-5 arrows between houses. It is too expensive to spend on half of the FAB-9000 ukp department. Not enough bombs and missiles.

Yes, there are enough ordinary ones for the eyes

[invisible_man]

Ordinary still need to get. Have you seen a photo with hundreds of craters within a radius of 500 meters around small ukrovsky trenches? And if, after unsuccessful many days of shelling, field oporniki take a decisive infantry raid under the cover of a couple of tanks, then this will not work in urban areas - shooting positions cover each other, and there are many snipers in the ruins, anti-tank ambushes with anti-tank systems, etc.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I give advice: drop the SALO 500 air bomb. They will catch it with their hands, they will crawl out of all the trenches and holes like rats.

[maiman61]

Well, of course! If they kill you, then there is no point in using this bomb. And suppose, if he saves the life of my nephew, who is there, then it makes sense to use such bombs!

[JD1979]

Quote from invisible_man

The typical knot of urban defense is a trench with 3-5 arrows between houses.

Nd look of an amateur, this type of defense would be easily countered by an UAV with a heat pack and a backlight laser. On the spot of which a 152mm adjustable gift would fly either with ready-made elements and an air blast (cone) or a landmine. And it seems to me that it will be many times cheaper than plowing the land with wagons of conventional shells.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: ANIMAL

Maybe already put an end to Avdiyivka using FAB 9000?

Only a person who is a complete "zero" in the military topic can "recommend" such a thing!

[WILL]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

, can such a "recommend" !

Learn the Russian language for a start, couch strategist recommend spelled together!
Is there anything on the topic, or is it in a puddle of gases?

[Nikolaevich I]

I learned the Russian language and I know it better than some critics ... Mistakes, from time to time, are made by many people ... for example, in a hurry! In addition, I now have the flu "in full", and with a high temperature, you can’t write anything! And now, "to our sheep" ... that is, 9-tons!
Its carriers were bombers Tu-95, TU-16, TU-22, 3M and M4. [Of the currently available in the ranks, only Tu-95MS and Tu-160 theoretically they can carry such bombs, but practically not! The Tu-95MS, according to its instructions, is called a platform and can only use cruise missiles suspended on an internal sling. It is not intended for other purposes. The Tu-160 can carry all types of air bombs, but it is a strategic bomber. (Or rather, a missile carrier! Thus, the Tu-95MS and Tu-160 are adapted for missiles, and now there are no carriers of a 9-ton air bomb in service! .But you and then you can fart ... such as you will not forbid!

[Marcel12345]

6 KAB1500 is better than one KAB9000 because the KAB 9000 is not laser guided but has to be dropped by the bomber at the drop point. threatens when the plane is shot down. Additionally, 6KAB1500s fired at intervals will do more damage than a single KAB9000

[dauria]

Maybe already put an end to Avdiyivka using FAB 9000?

A typical amateur mistake.
The radius of destruction does not grow in proportion to power, but only to the cube root.
20 pieces of FAB -500 will give a much larger area than one FAB - 9000. Targets for which a bomb heavier than 500 kg is needed is a meager amount - battleships, tunnels, etc.
So don't dig a big silo pit in the field with a fool of 9000 kg. It is more efficient to fill the entire field with a trifle.

[ivan_nkl]

It is more efficient to fill the entire field with a trifle

this is the meaning of HIGH-PRECISION ammunition, that it is possible to hit a previously explored fortified opornik, a concrete dugout, etc.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: dauria

A typical amateur mistake.
The radius of destruction does not grow in proportion to power, but only to the cube root.
20 pieces of FAB -500 will give a much larger area than one FAB - 9000.

You are right! Due to the fact that I have the flu, I simply forgot to indicate the 2nd part in the answer to "St. John's wort" ... that 9-ton bombs in practice did not justify themselves in terms of destructive power! But you corrected me!

[saran]

Did they leave the FAB-9000? Back in 1987, Dudaev’s division put them in the Pansher Gorge. Like the FAB-5000. If there are in warehouses, then only the FAB-3000, but I think a meager amount.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Bombs can roll around, but there is nothing to bomb with them.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: ANIMAL

Maybe already put an end to Avdiyivka using FAB 9000?
The civilian population has not been there for a long time, whom do we regret?

loitering?

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Pimp the Tu-95 (and pre-fuck converting it back into bombs)?
FAB-9000 has nothing to carry.

[svp67]

The news is DOUBLE. On the one hand, it is EXCELLENT that they appeared, but on the other hand, why do they not reach the target, but fall?

[Rome]

God forbid that mass production would go!

Quote: svp67

why do they not reach the target, but fall?

This, to create an informational occasion, cannot be officially declared, the design is probably experimental

[Sarboz]

Quote: Eroma

This, to create an informational occasion, cannot be officially declared, the design is probably experimental

All this has been mass-produced for several years.

[Rome]

Quote: Sarboz

All this has been mass-produced for several years.

Such an achievement without PR? Not realistic today! Either you are mistaken, or there is a catch, because of which they flew on the Su34 on a low-level flight from the fab

[Goto]

Look for Dmitry Medvedev, he was at an exhibition or at a factory around the fall, and these bombs were shown there. There was also an article here on the same.

[Igar]

Dopilat, a matter of time. In emergency conditions, a kit was created.

[Aken]

They will finish it when it is no longer necessary ...

[South Ukrainian]

. this ammunition fell from a Russian front-line bomber due to a technical malfunction

Perhaps the mount was faulty and the bomb unhooked arbitrarily.

[poquello]

Quote: svp67

The news is DOUBLE. On the one hand, it is EXCELLENT that they appeared, but on the other hand, why do they not reach the target, but fall?

does everyone fall?

[nepunamemuk]

why do they not reach the target, but fall?

it's written
free falling

[ZhEK-Vodogrey]

Quote: svp67

and on the other hand, why do they not reach the goal, but fall?

Our glide bombs are in test mode. Let's hope it doesn't take a lot of tweaking.
Now they are testing a model of work with planning ammunition with UMPC (Unified Planning and Correction Module) on Avdiivka. When the process is completed, everything that flies will go into action. Even MiG-29.

[SIT]

Quote: ZhEK-Vodogrey

Quote: svp67

and on the other hand, why do they not reach the goal, but fall?

Our glide bombs are in test mode. Let's hope it doesn't take a lot of tweaking.

Is it okay that the first combat use of planning guided bombs was the Luftwaffe attack on an Italian battleship in 1944? Not enough 80 years for testing?

[ZhEK-Vodogrey]

There are specially designed long-range glide bombs with high aerodynamic quality. In the photo UMPC on a free-falling bomb. This FAB-500M-62 bomb does not initially belong to planning bombs. She was given wings and taught to glide.

[Plate]

The plane flies, flies, then bam, the bomb comes off and falls. And that doesn't happen.

[stankow]

Or the stabilizer comes off, vibrations go on and the pilot unhooks it for "unexploded".

[Digital error]

Quote: svp67

why do they not reach the target, but fall?

Americans lost nuclear munitions - more than once or twice. and nothing - they didn’t burst, they are swarming quietly for now

[German]

The news is very mixed! They wrote about such bombs on VO even at the time of the beginning of our participation in the Syrian company. Like: now we will make a mountain of high-precision weapons from a pile of pieces of cast iron with small forces.

[Sergei Kazarin]

Yesterday on the stream, the Boy in the Mask, who works at the Sukhoi Design Bureau, spoke very critically about the Russian JDAM

[Alien From]

If this product, as recently announced (handicraft), then there is nothing surprising. It's good that no one was hurt.

[blackGRAIL]

Bombs have always fallen and will continue to fall. The most that neither is serial and on aircraft of absolutely all countries.

[ivan_nkl]

Bombs have always fallen and will continue to fall

worse when the parachutes do not open during the landing operation, as happened with the allies in Normandy

[dmi.pris1]

Hmm, such a case, it’s good that our ammunition didn’t explode ... What they started to use is good. Apparently, it was intended for Avdiivka

[svp67]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

Hmm, such a case, it's good that our ammunition did not explode ...

Yes, it’s bad that the Ukrainians show them on their territory without exploding ... What is with the fuses? They turn out not to work. Because of which? Because of a non-standard flight path? It is clearly designed for a vertical fall of a bomb, but here there is a tangential fall

[dmi.pris1]

If this is so, then I hope that the fuses will be finalized. There should not be any unsolvable problems there. Although, maybe the bomb did not go into planning mode, and is this the reason? .

[svp67]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

The bomb then fell approximately at the drop point, fell like an ordinary gravitational one ..

Judging by the photo, it fell just on a tangent, one stabilizer was demolished and glided along the oily Donbas black soil

[Simple]

So the control system brought the bomb to planning, but at a low altitude something went wrong.

Half a ton during a steep dive will drive this blank five meters deep.

[svp67]

Quote: Simple

So the control system brought the bomb to planning, but at a low altitude something went wrong.

Or when dropping, either the drop rate, or overload, or a manufacturing defect was exceeded, since the bomb is separate, and the wings are separate, but at a distance

[Nexcom]

Started using - well done!
If it didn’t work, it’s bad, you need to draw conclusions and not give the enemy samples of these weapons for analysis.

PS The main thing is that now our pilots will be able to avoid the danger of being hit by ballistic air defense systems.

[ivan_nkl]

Started using - well done!

maybe we’ll save more helicopters - there will be fewer NURSs from pitching up ...

[Black_Messiah]

Videos have already appeared of how such people fall on Avdiivka.
Apparently, they were finally able to sufficiently stop air defense in the frontline zone

[incognoto]

have been using them for a long time. just the number has increased, which cannot but rejoice

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote: ANIMAL

Maybe already put an end to Avdiyivka using FAB 9000?
The civilian population has not been there for a long time, whom do we regret?

Quote: ANIMAL

Maybe already put an end to Avdiyivka using FAB 9000?
The civilian population has not been there for a long time, whom do we regret?

FAB 9000 does not provide a full reaction of explosives, which is why they were abandoned after Afghanistan: that is, they are in warehouses, but ... it's just a pity to throw them away. Another reason is that at least Tu-22M3 or Tu-95 MS can carry it. It's risky to use them.

[mark1]

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

it can be carried by at least Tu-22M3 or Tu-95MS.

In theory, yes, but in practice, the carrier needs to be finalized. Tu-16 was ideal, but, alas, we don’t have them ..

[Yves762]

Finally! Lost to finish it, so as not to fall off on the road.
And wean the pilots from flying over the cities with loading ...

[tralflot1832]

The thing is certainly good, on one night video after a bonba hit in Avdiivka, some kind of pepelats was seen trying to enter low-Earth orbit, but did not grow together. But he overcame the 9-story building with a double margin. .Like a "world record" bzdyn at a height of 55 meters, the ISIS * set. Toyota first started into the skies, and then like a bzdyn. There is a video, now it can no longer be found.

[dnestr74]

The sticks around are the wings?)))))

[bravo77]

Quote: svp67

The news is DOUBLE. On the one hand, it is EXCELLENT that they appeared, but on the other hand, why do they not reach the target, but fall?

tripartite
the speed of the response of the military and the defense industry to the supply of types of weapons that were needed yesterday (a year ago) is frightening
here is the much-praised experience in Syria, when nothing modern was needed to drop bombs on barmaley with slingshots

[mag nit]

It is a pity that these high-precision bombs are used in Donetsk. On whose tip do VKS work? Thank God it didn't explode, otherwise it would have been blamed on NATO weapons.

[Petr_Koldunov]

I would prefer to look at photographs of an exploding bomb ... and equipment and Natsiks scattered around them!

[ism_ek]

This thing is called UMPC. (universal planning and correction module).
Free-fall bombs are currently only used by the Wagner group.

[Sergei Kazarin]

This balabol Flybomber told? Only recently in Avdiivka unexploded fabs were found

[Ross xnumx]

As part of a special operation, the Russian Aerospace Forces began to use gliding precision-guided aerial bombs created on the basis of FAB-500 M62 free-falling bombs. An unexploded Russian air bomb served as proof of this.found on the outskirts of Donetsk.

Am I the only one who thinks this is unconvincing evidence?
Convincing evidence of the use of such bombs taken by the Odessa and Kharkov (at least) regions or the unconditional surrender of the Zelensky regime ...

[South Ukrainian]

https://t.me/legitimniy/14932
Like, here is a video of the use of this bomb.

[Mavrikiy]

Russian Aerospace Forces began to use high-precision glide bombs in the NMD zone

and thank God.

[spirit]

What about the vaunted Hermes? After all, we have been told for so many years, including on this site, what an unparalleled thing, not like the "stupid" Americans with their JDAMs. Now they sit and make handicrafts, and the one who sawed the money he still feels great on this useless Hermes. Putin does not give up his corrupt ranks

[Volunteer Marek]

It happens. The Americans, somehow lost the vigorous bombs. Most likely, the ammunition was dropped "for non-explosion." For what reason is another question.

[2я19]

In the cart it flashed that one and a half (1500 kg) were used. The effect is such that the survivors become ddduurakkkami. Not forever, but for a long time. How true the cart gossip is, of course, a big question, but the news is just great. In general, the use of large cast irons without damage to the carriers should give a huge effect.

[DMFalke]

ammunition fell from a Russian front-line bomber due to a technical malfunction. But it's not the main thing

haven't cried like that in a long time. "guys, something fell off here, don't worry, it's just a bomb"
both funny and sad, damn it. Well, write, damn it - the ammunition is not working, dropped in a non-residential area. Dropped, not dropped.

[Alien From]

If our leaders hadn’t been STEAMING the citizens for the last N years about the prodigy waffles that have no analogues in the world, then the reaction would have been different! and yes, SU 34 is used as IL 2, motorcycle leagues with a ship module, etc., even listing is no longer interesting. Finish. The tsar is good, the boyars are good, the lackeys are bad. A curtain.

[Pavel57]

The appearance of such complexes in the arsenal of the Russian Aerospace Forces makes it possible to turn 250 and 500 kg aerial bombs into precision-guided munitions, of which there are still quite a large number in warehouses.

And to use new platforms, for example, the Yak-130.

[Ross xnumx]

At the very least, the massive use of some Lancet-10 with a range of up to 100 km and a b / h of up to 10 kg in TNT (thanks to the use of high-powered explosives) could give an exceptional and very effective result.
You just have to do...

[Rosemary]

The Russian Aerospace Forces began to use satellite-guided high-precision glide bombs in the NMD zone.
...
Air bombs of this type became the "long-awaited answer" used by the Americans JDAM

Well, where is "high-precision", "satellite guidance" and "our answer to Chamberlain" in this good news?
This air bomb was "precisely" planned into the courtyard of a private house on Grekova Street in Donetsk, and did not even explode there. It is necessary to be upset by such news, but not to rejoice.

[Master 2030]

This munition is said to have fallen from a Russian front-line bomber due to a technical malfunction.

Weird way to use it.

[Igor K]

40 km is not too short a distance to assert that the strike is delivered from a safe distance, outside the air defense coverage area?
If the aircraft at the same time strikes from a height of 15 km, then it is a hit target for the S-300 up to 75 km, for the BUK M-1 up to 40 km and bourgeois weapons with characteristics better than the S-300.

[Fan-fan]

40 km to the front line is not enough, Ukrainian air defense will get our plane at this distance. Therefore, there is nothing to rejoice at. On the other hand, where are all these suns and Pinocchio with vacuum charges, because there are still stories that they burn everything on a huge area. Then why don't they burn Avdiivka?

[Zaurbek]

There is a confusion of an ordinary bomb with a kit and an initially planning bomb of small diameter .....

[Fulcrumxnumx]

For the first time, the Russian Aerospace Forces used the Grom-2 (9-A1-7759) multi-purpose gliding UAB with a range of 65 km or its rocket modification with the Grom-1 (9-A-7759) solid propellant upper stage with a range of about 120 km.

These bombs are conceptual analogues of the American GBU-39B/1 stealthy high-precision gliding UAB, which are also integrated into the HIMARS / MLRS MLRS ammunition as the second (combat) stages of the GLSDB URS ...

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[Sergei Kazarin]

GBU-39 has a planning range of 110 km, Grom has 50 km
Not analogue

[Peaceful SEO]

Quote: ROSS 42

As part of a special operation, the Russian Aerospace Forces began to use gliding precision-guided aerial bombs created on the basis of FAB-500 M62 free-falling bombs. An unexploded Russian air bomb served as proof of this.found on the outskirts of Donetsk.

Am I the only one who thinks this is unconvincing evidence?
Convincing evidence of the use of such bombs taken by the Odessa and Kharkov (at least) regions or the unconditional surrender of the Zelensky regime ...

To prove something to fools and bawlers is, in principle, a thankless task ... They will still not be enough and not enough

[Mikhail Ivanov]

Not even a year has passed ... The answer to the question why this was not done from the first days, apparently, we will never get ...
Today I watched a video of the hit in Avdiivka, it looks impressive. In general, I just can’t understand what is the point of storming villages, which eventually turn into ruins, if you can first smash the enemy’s fortifications from the air, demoralize him, and then go for a cleansing???

[acetophenone]

I love good news... And who doesn't love it? Finally, aviation NORMALLY earned!

[Asad]

I mean, okay!? Dropped a bomb in a garden near Donetsk and it hasn't exploded yet?

[Boniface]

New developed "Grom" - a new Russian winged aerial bomb. "Thunder" has a length of about 4,2 m and a diameter of 0,3 m. The main feature of the bomb is its range - up to 120 kilometers. For comparison, modern Russian guided bombs can travel about 40 km.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: Boniface

New developed "Grom" - a new Russian winged aerial bomb. "Thunder" has a length of about 4,2 m and a diameter of 0,3 m. The main feature of the bomb is its range - up to 120 kilometers. For comparison, modern Russian guided bombs can travel about 40 km.

How all this was lacking from the very beginning of the operation.

[Sergei Kazarin]

Planning range 50 km, 120 km with a rocket engine

[Zaurbek]

Interestingly, if you load such ammunition into a Tu22m3, give each coordinate in Avdiivka, he will throw off everything alone with 15000m ... and hello. 10 pieces, I think it will take at once

[Sergei Kazarin]

What would be easier to shoot down a larger target?

[Hitriy Zhuk]

And you can take 10 small planes with 1-2 bombs each.
And they are thrown in all directions, and the air defense missile will catch them in figs.

[Ulan.1812]

And some say that there is nothing to destroy bridges.
One and a half tons of precision-guided munitions is not enough?
There is something, but there is no political solution.

[Sergei Kazarin]

It has low accuracy for bridges..............

[Mikhail Ivanov]

The unexploded Russian aerial bomb found on the outskirts of Donetsk served as proof of this.

Some miracles are told. Are we bombing Donetsk now?

[Sebostyuan]

From the enemy side of the photo there is the wreckage of the "Thunder". VKS- tests various types of planning ammunition.

[LuidmilaN1956]

Woke up after almost a quarter of a century! Earlier than you thought?

[AlexWar]

What did I think about when I saw this bomb, that it could have been shot down by its own electronic warfare system