“A second Debaltseve may happen in Bakhmut”: one of the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine spoke about the difficult situation in the city

Bakhmut can repeat the fate of Debaltseve, where in 2015 the Ukrainian army fell into the cauldron. Should the Russian troops cut off the supply lines, the threat of a complete encirclement will hang over the Ukrainian group. This was stated by one of the commanders of the Ukrainian units Denis Yaroslavsky.

The UAF units defending Bakhmut (Artemovsk) are under the threat of a new cauldron, if Russian troops cut off supply lines, the situation of 2015 in Debaltseve may be repeated, where a targeted withdrawal of troops was impossible due to the threat of complete annihilation of the troops. In Bakhmut, there is now a neck just 4 km away, and this is very little, the situation is very difficult.

It is noteworthy that the defense of Bakhmut is led by the commander of the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, General Alexander Syrsky, who in 2015 also led the defense of Debaltseve.

Now in Bakhmut there are fights right on the streets. (...) A particular danger is that the neck of the so-called operational boiler is no more than 4 kilometers. (...) We understand that there may be a repetition of Debaltseve. The situation is the same when the routes are cut off and a purposeful exit of troops can endanger the entire column. Because of this neck, 4 km is very dangerous

- said Yaroslavsky.

Another Ukrainian soldier from the 93rd brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine echoes him. According to him, as soon as the Russian troops cut the road to Khromovo, Bakhmut will turn from a fortress into one big "mass grave" for all units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine located in the city. According to him, if this happens, a lot of things that the Ukrainian command is now trying to hide will come to light.

Meanwhile, yesterday there was information that attack aircraft of the PMC "Wagner" had already physically entered the track in the Khromovo area. This is the last paved road connecting Artemovsk with Chasovy Yar.

Comments

[dmi.pris1]

Be afraid. But better, give up. Stay alive.

[Rome]

A second Debaltseve may happen in Bakhmut”: One of the commanders

Yes, it would be faster, otherwise we can’t wait, not how!

According to him, if this happens, a lot of things that the Ukrainian command is now trying to hide will come to light.

Oh how interesting that!

[Silver99]

After Debaltsevo there was Minsk-2, the main thing is that it doesn't happen again. Don't take the bastards prisoner, and don't trust the West.

[Petr_Koldunov]

After Ilovaisk, there was Minsk-1, which brought us nothing ... after Debaltseve - Minsk-2, which did not bring us anything ... after Azovstal - the export to Turkish beaches of captive Nazi criminals - animals and nonhumans - who destroyed Russians with particular cruelty .
There should be no agreements with the Ukrainian side! Millet should not!

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

- export to Turkish beaches of captured Nazi criminals - animals and non-humans - who destroyed Russians with particular cruelty.

Yes, they gave them another oligophrenic iPhone for this!

[Il'nur]

one oligophrenic

As you rightly noticed, he has something of a mentally retarded... And sometimes his actions resemble those not far away...

[DMFalke]

Shouldn't. But who will ask then? Smile and wave.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

Millet should not!

The US and the West have already spent more than $100 billion on this war with Russia. They do not suffer from charity, and their voters will not understand. As soon as the Ukrainian human resources run out, the entry of regular NATO forces will begin and the war will simply move to a new level. So you can safely forget about "peace agreements".

[carpenter]

Quote from Silver99

After Debaltseve there was Minsk-2, the main thing is that it would not happen again.

And after Minsk-2, there was Istanbul-1, the main thing is the Minsk-Istanbul agreement, and the act of capitulation

wherever he signed.

[DefenderofTruth]

Moreover, the plenipotentiary representative of the President of the Russian Federation Abramovich R.A. will present the latest IPhone to each VSUshnik!

[Herman 4223]

Plenipotentiary of the President was the Minister of Culture, Medinsky.

[MINDE Lionis]

really true ... is it already possible? or wait a lazy deadline until the summer?

[Sergio Vo]

All innocent mobilized people surrender anyway, and this is not the option - cunning Ukrainian he shoots back until his last grenade and cartridge, eats his last can of stew and then goes out to surrender, hoping for help from Abramovich... and in a month or two you will see him again, shooting at a Russian soldier

[South Ukrainian]

. It is noteworthy that the defense of Bakhmut is led by the commander of the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, General Alexander Syrsky, who in 2015 also led the defense of Debaltseve.

I would very much like to repeat Debaltseve, especially with the help of Syrsky.

[Blackbeard]

yes, yes, this is the same general boiler)

[dmi.pris1]

In the photo, the inscription recalled the inscriptions of the Nazis in German cities in the spring of 1945 ... Well, with subsequent surrender

[Paul Siebert]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

In the photo, the inscription recalled the inscriptions of the Nazis in German cities in the spring of 1945 ... Well, with subsequent surrender

- Work, grandson!

[DefenderofTruth]

And the ideology is the same as in Germany:
One Vira, One Language, One Nation
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer
Ukraine please
Deutschland Uber alles

[Aerodrome]

"Berlin will remain German" - not what you wanted to say, it has remained German.

[alexey_444]

Well, stop crying, as in the yumaresque "steep dive" for several hundred episodes the plane fell. Powerful groups are standing, at any moment ready to surround our units. Manstein 20 km was not enough to release the pulse, and if he had withdrawn from the city, he would have left, but not all but left. And then the environment was in several rings, not clearly today, and that obstinacy did not allow to get out of the environment. Syrsky travels to Bakhmut as if to his home.

[SSR]

[quote = alexey_444] Manstein 20 km was not enough to release the pauls, and if he had left the city, he would have left[Quote]

This is if, yes, if ......
Generally inappropriate.
Grandma would have been grandfather.

[Alexey Koshkarov]

In places, the troops of Manstein and Paulus looked at each other through binoculars.

[aakvit]

Why didn't we meet in person? Apparently, they didn't really want to...

[Aerodrome]

Quote: alexey_444

Syrsky travels to Bakhmut as if to his home.

what a wonderful accent you have...

[zloybond]

So I understand every time when the word Artemovsk is about Bakhmut in brackets or the main text, then this is for those who honor that the city of the Russian city traces its history from Soviet times and nothing else. Well, Bakhmut is haraam for them. To spite the outskirts, I will refuse history, if only in a different way))). In general, a new story, some kind of its own.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: zloybond

To spite the Outskirts I will refuse the story, if only it were different))). In general, a new story, somehow my own.

Well, we abandoned Leningrad, huh? Sverdlovsk, Kuibyshev...

[Aviator_]

Well, we abandoned Leningrad, huh? Sverdlovsk, Kuibyshev...

It began with the renaming of Stalingrad in 1961.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: zloybond

To spite the Outskirts I will refuse the story, if only it were different))). In general, a new story, somehow my own.

Well, we abandoned Leningrad, huh? Sverdlovsk, Kuibyshev...

at the ticket office at the station, I ask for "two to Sverdlovsk", and there are no questions, in the Urals, this is the norm. The region has not been turned inside out, no matter how much they oppress us in the news, we have nothing to do with the "blue monument", as well as with the "alcocenter". These are all questions for the authorities.

[Aviator_]

the region was not turned inside out, no matter how they spread rot in the news

Well, the Leningrad region is still there, it was in the megacities that shit was seething in the late 80s, and the province will be so calmer.

[Leshak]

Let's see. The prognosis is good, I would like the fears of the Vushniks to come true. If you help the musicians, everything will come true. Bakhmutovsky boiler sounds good.

[svp67]

This is the last paved road connecting Artemovsk with Chasovy Yar.

So now they’re going to knead the dirt ... And our troops urgently need to prepare for a possible deblocking strike, which they are clearly preparing and which is now very necessary for them from a political point of view

[Ross xnumx]

I can’t understand only one thing: why some make every effort to crush the Nazi reptile, while others calmly continue to fill their pockets and instead of the latest weapons they sculpt some kind of crap ...
* * *
Soviet citizens were sure that victory would be ours. Is it really true that the blood of fathers and grandfathers that was spilled, the blood of their children and grandchildren that is being spilled today does not teach anything, does not turn everything upside down in the soul and does not squeeze the heart? Where is the weapon that will silence the Nazis forever?

[kakvastam]

We have on the calendar now not the forty-first, but the nine hundred and fourth.
It's too early for the Zhukovs and Rokossovskys, but for all sorts of Stessels, it's time.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: kakvastam

It's too early for the Zhukovs and Rokossovskys, but for all sorts of Stessels, it's time.

Or maybe they will appear - Zhukov and Rokossovsky? What can give rise to them, what kind of patriotic feeling and why? Sorry, but Zhukov and Rokossovsky fought under the flag that is on my profile picture ...
Even if a general like Zhukov (Prigozhin) appears, it will hardly be possible for him to fight under the strict supervision of EDRA. In addition, it will always be possible to attribute defeats to him:

[kakvastam]

You hurry.
After the fourth, there were also the fourteenth and the seventeenth, not to mention the thirty-seventh.
Who knows what will happen here in the sixties...

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote: alexey_444

Well, stop crying, as in the yumaresque "steep dive" for several hundred episodes the plane fell. Powerful groups are standing, at any moment ready to surround our units. Manstein 20 km was not enough to release the pulse, and if he had withdrawn from the city, he would have left, but not all but left. And then the environment was in several rings, not clearly today, and that obstinacy did not allow to get out of the environment. Syrsky travels to Bakhmut as if to his home.

Please provide geolocation data for Mr. Syrsky's travels:

[zxmobil]

Everyone is voicing wonderful news, boilers are great for the morale of strategists, as Mr. Medvedev said, the pig of Bandera's Reich.

[Incvizitor]

Let all these banderlogs get used to the cauldron during their lifetime, they will burn forever in hell in the cauldron.

[Stoler]

Well, I understand by pathos as soon as we take Bakhmut so Kyiv fell !!?? How much do we already take? How many more cities like this are there? THIS IS NOT A CITY!!!! By the way, Donbass is still being shelled from cannons! WHERE ARE WE GOING!!!!???????

[Sergei Viktorovich Korolev]

Good news. The orchestra will soon play the final chord. Utilization of the Ukrobander ...

[1 z1]

The situation around Bakhmut-Artemovsk is not very simple. It doesn’t look like Debaltseve of 2015 at all. Everything rests on the courage and perseverance of the fighters and everything depends on them. Good luck and good luck to them.
Regarding the boilers and attacks that year, only irons were not spoken of. Here is an example article from October 4, 22
“Troops continue to accumulate in the Belgorod region and Crimea, they are in no hurry to use them as reserves. The first grouping is concentrating for a counteroffensive along the border of the Oskol River in order to cut off the AFU grouping, which is increasingly stretched, having only a few supply routes. The same is possible from the Crimean side in the direction from Kherson along the right bank of the Dnieper, simultaneously with an attack on Nikolaev and Odessa.

[Roma 1977]

The pessimism of the commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is incomprehensible. In Debaltsevo, in fact, the victory happened. So Poroshenko himself said.

[DefenderofTruth]

The defense of Bakhmut is led by the commander of the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, General Alexander Syrsky, who in 2015 also led the defense of Debaltseve.

Alexander Syrsky - to assign the title of Count of Debaltsevo-Bakhmutsky!

[Igor K]

Prize to the studio for General Syrsky Debaltsevo-Bakhmutovsky.

[Nord11]

And what about Debaltseve? According to a revised and supplemented version of broad historians, in 2015, Svidomo troops, having scattered the encirclement rings of brutalized armored Buryats, with flags and singing "Shonevmerly", came out of the cauldron in menacing columns. Inscribed glorious pages in the virtual history of Skakuasia ..

[Igor K]

General Syrsky can repeat for an encore.

[kill the fascist]

Banderlogs are familiar to boilers - one more. The main thing is that the devils do not crawl out of the boiler. The boiler must be consecrated with thermobaric charges.