The commander of the special forces "Akhmat" Alaudinov suggested where the Armed Forces of Ukraine can use Leopard tanks for the first time

Now Tanks The German-made Leopard, whose deliveries to Ukraine have already begun, do not appear on the front line. The commander of the special forces "Akhmat" and the assistant to the head of the Chechen Republic, Major General Apty Alaudinov, spoke about this on the air of the Rossiya 1 TV channel.

It is possible that the Ukrainian command is going to launch German tanks on a counteroffensive when the operation to unblock Artemovsk (Ukrainian name Bakhmut) begins, General Alaudinov stressed. The Ukrainian command plans to carry out this operation with the help of three groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Such words of the special forces commander may well turn out to be a plausible forecast, since the Kyiv regime has very high hopes for Western military equipment. In Kyiv, they may believe that the tanks will help them unlock the city.

Unfortunately, I still cannot boast that I saw "Leopards" here

- said the commander of "Akhmat" on the air of the TV channel "Россия 1».

Alaudinov also noted that all Akhmat special forces soldiers are ready to meet Leopard tanks. This is due to the fact that the fighters dream of getting a solid bonus, which is promised for every captured Leopard.

Recall that Germany and a number of other European countries have begun deliveries of German-made Leopard tanks to Ukraine.

The Russian leadership has repeatedly stated that the supply of Western military equipment and weapons only contributes to the further aggravation of the conflict and its prolongation, and by no means brings a peaceful settlement closer.

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[yuriy1863]

Alaudinov also noted that all Akhmat special forces soldiers are ready to meet Leopard tanks.

It cannot be otherwise! We must wish the guys military happiness and good luck!

[Clear]

This is due to the fact that the fighters dream of getting a solid bonus, which is promised for every captured Leopard.

Oh, this "Golden Calf", everywhere, the reptile psychologically penetrates. Look guys, don't forget to be careful.

[novel66]

Lady! Well, here he is already working for us! let them earn!

[Digital error]

Perhaps the point is that the money will someday run out, and their remnants will be crushed by the American "oil ceiling". And then what? There is no ideology yet (moreover, it is prohibited by the Constitution), but there is no money

[bayard]

Quote: DigitalError

no more money

Have you run out of money?
Or are you worried about the budget of the Russian Federation?
So you should not worry about it - there is a lot of money and enough for a long time.
You were embarrassed ... "budget deficit"?
Well, firstly, such a deficit has long been a sign of a "developed democratic society", because in "democratic countries" budgets are almost always in short supply, and they do not bother at all.
Secondly, Russia has very large reserve funds (despite the arrest / theft of 300+ billion dollars by Western democracies), which will be enough to cover such a deficit for 6 or even 10 years.
In addition, the financial year has just begun, many contracts and government orders (including a sharply expanded state defense order) have come into force, which must be secured with advance payments. Then it goes much smoother.

Quote: DigitalError

will be crushed by the American "oil ceiling"

But who cares about these ceilings, if Russian business now prefers to transport its oil by its own ships (now leaving the cost of transportation to itself) and insure the transported goods in OWN insurance companies (this money also remains in Russian jurisdiction and turnover).
But in the US and the EU, from these ceilings they will soon dance to the collapse of the economies ... they have already begun to RECOMMEND their companies to BUY Russian oil though with the proviso that the ceilings are observed ... But who will sell them on such conditions . We will have to buy from our Indian (and other) subsidiaries, Chinese traders and ... mainly already in a processed (petroleum products) form.

Quote: DigitalError

no ideology yet

Yes, how not? Do you live in the forest?
In the Russian Federation - capitalism with feudal methods of management.
This is the ideology.
Yes, not Marxism-Leninism, but the people who put this ideology into practice ... are very ideological. And for their ideology, they will tear anyone.
It's just the ideology of the ruling class.
And all other types of ideology, yes, are PROHIBITED.

Quote: DigitalError

money will eventually run out

In the light of the 25.02.2022. on abandoning the "Budget Rule" and domonetization of the Russian economy from 52% (actually it was a little more than 40%) to 70% (and it is necessary to have 95 - 100% up to the global norm), Russia can freely conduct annual domonetization in the amount of 50 - 100 billion dol. in ruble terms.
Do you think this will be enough to cover the budget deficit ?
In addition, it is budget financing that is the most effective way of additional monetization.
And this will steadily stimulate GDP growth (in the most natural way) and budget revenues from all types of payments.

Quote: DigitalError

And then what?

And then, despite the war \ SVO, sanctions and attempts at isolation, the Russian economy will ... grow Moreover, at an increasing pace.
And the world prices for energy resources will grow . For - the shortage and cheap oil (and gas) has long ended.

[Digital error]

Quote: bayard

You were confused ... "budget deficit"

Not at all. I was confused by the motivation of the fighters. When (and if) there will be no prizes they dream of, where will they go from the front? At Moscow construction sites for bonuses?

Quote: bayard

Russia has very large reserve funds

Now it has become obvious to you too - there were none to maintain the previous retirement age, but they were found in the NWO.

Quote: bayard

in the US and the EU, these ceilings will soon dance to the collapse of the economies

Sure sure. Therefore, they are strenuously introduced for purely masochistic reasons. Remove the noodles from your ears and look at the dollar exchange rate / the dynamics of stock prices for gas in Europe.

Quote: bayard

cheap oil (and gas) has long ended

Ask the Indians and the Chinese if they buy our oil and gas at a high price. And ask yourself the question - why, in fact, we sell at a discount? Ah, well, yes. Brotherly peoples...

[bayard]

Quote: DigitalError

. I was confused by the motivation of the fighters. When (and if) there will be no prizes they dream of - where will they go from the front?

And the fact that during the Second World War, Soviet soldiers received cash rewards for downed planes, knocked out tanks, destroyed guns, warehouses, headquarters, for each military award there was ... a pension (!) - on an ongoing basis, as an additional payment to salaries (cancelled when Khrushchev). And these (especially for planes, tanks, ships) were very considerable payments. Some payments began to be made after the war, when all reports and reports were systematized.
Not embarrassed by such a motivation of the Soviet people? Who were motivated enough without it?
So what confuses you in the capitalist Russian Federation, where from school years they teach that money is the head of everything, the main measure and purpose of existence?
Moreover, apart from the Ministry of Defense, which announced bonuses for the destruction of specific targets, a number of Russian banks and companies also announced an award for the same Leopard-2, Leclerc and Abrams tanks with the Challenger-2. How to contribute your own contribution to the victory. And so that life does not seem like a raspberry to foreign panzers in the South Russian lands ... that every stick, every bush and ruin was fired at them. I think this is worthy and fair. A worthy reward for heroism should bring the hero joy and zeal for new exploits.

Quote: DigitalError

Now it has become obvious to you too - there were none to maintain the previous retirement age

It was obvious to me for a very long time that the authorities of the Russian Federation had long been leading everything towards canceling pensions AT ALL. They have already begun to prepare society for this idea, for several years they advised - "get ready, soon there will be no pensions at all."

Quote: DigitalError

but found on the NWO.

They (reserves) were always there, they were redundant, they did not go to the development of the country, they were boasted of as an achievement. But they were ALWAYS. And there were a LOT of them.
Now the "elites of the Russian Federation" themselves have burned out and the money has gone to the NWO. And they even began to invest in their own production.
I wrote that there is money to cover the naturally occurring budget deficit. They are sufficient to cover such a deficit for 6-10 years. And the deficit is due to the fact that budget spending on defense and financing of national projects has increased dramatically. And it is very good that they have increased, because in this way they will remain/return inside the country. And this by itself results in the growth of GDP and tax deductions to the same budget.

Quote: DigitalError

Quote: bayard
in the US and the EU, these ceilings will soon dance to the collapse of the economies

Sure sure. Therefore, they are strenuously introduced for purely masochistic reasons.

This is the HYSTERIC of a torn hegemon. They want, as before (before the NWO), to buy oil in the Russian Federation for ... 40-41 dollars. per barrel. Regardless of world prices on the stock exchanges. 25.02.2022/40/41. the guarantor of stability announced that the "Budget rule" (according to which the Russian Federation sold oil no more than 250-XNUMX dollars) ceases to operate and Russia will sell the resource at world prices. And this gave the Russian Federation last year, in excess of all expectations, at least XNUMX billion dollars.
Haven't heard of this?
How much do you think this will be enough to cover budget deficits in the future ?

Quote: DigitalError

Remove the noodles from your ears and look at the dollar /

What's the difference to you from the dollar exchange rate? The grown dollar will provide additional revenues to the budget in ruble terms and will reduce (or completely cover it) the same budget deficit.
You still do not understand WHY from time to time we raise the dollar? Just for this.

Quote: DigitalError

on the dynamics of exchange prices for gas in Europe.

What do you know about these prices?
Do you even understand what these prices are and how they affect domestic prices for the European consumer?
Do not know .
They are not reflected at all.
Do you know why?
Yes, because during the summer of last year, European gas storages were filled with gas at a price of 2200 - 2500 dollars. for 1000 m.2. And that’s it. Apparently they were expecting even higher prices. And then there was simply nowhere to buy. All the more so that European consumers have stopped buying gas altogether or have drastically reduced such purchases. They just stopped production so as not to go bankrupt. As a result, the new gas carriers that came to Europe could not be unloaded (the storage facilities are full) and the LNG owners found themselves in a dilemma - either drag themselves to Southeast Asia and try to sell there (without having a contract in their hands), or ... try to drop the price and that's it to unload.
And they had to dance in their prices already from the prices in Southeast Asia ... and there the prices were seriously LOWER (because they buy there under LONG-TERM contracts, and not according to European cunning inventions) ... So prices appeared in European ... much lower the former ones ... but there is EVERYTHING to unload.
Meanwhile, European gas owners have fallen into the trap of their hoarding at maximum prices ... and are forced to sell gas ... not even at horse prices, but at hyper horse prices. They puff, try, and the industry of the EU is rapidly dying.
And the European consumer himself cannot buy gas on the exchange, where prices have fallen ... because the entire gas transportation and distribution system belongs ... to the owners of super-expensive gas.
The US is very happy. European producers, willy-nilly, reached out to the USA (where gas is cheap) ... but most are still in Southeast Asia, Turkey, somewhere else away from the USA.

Quote: DigitalError

Ask the Indians and the Chinese if they buy our oil and gas at a high price.

Yes, they themselves do not hide (official reports of the Ministry of Finance). The average price of Urals Russian oil in China in December was $91 per barrel. And in India - $ 93 (logistics are more expensive).
Do not want to compare with the "ceilings"?
But this is even somewhat higher than stock prices.
Why is that ?
Yes, because many do not care about these exchanges if they buy under direct contracts, often completely non-public. And this is against the background of an acute shortage of heavy grades of oil on the market.

Quote: DigitalError

And ask yourself the question - why, in fact, we sell at a discount?

And you still did not know to whom, when and why?
This is in the case of selling oil in our port. If the buyer exports by his own tankers or charters on the side. Here, to cover transport, insurance ... But Russian exporters today prefer to export oil with their own tankers. And they carry. And for this purpose, we have already purchased over 600 tankers, dry cargo ships, and ocean-class gas carriers on the secondary market.

Quote: DigitalError

Well, yes. Brotherly peoples...

Where did you meet brotherhood under capitalism? With such a wonderful system, as a rule, brother vomits his throat. WWI, WWII, NATO robbery in Yugoslavia, and the current massacre under the NWO index - exclusively showdowns between fraternal peoples (of the same race). And the Indians and Chinis are blood brothers well, it doesn't come out. But partnership without mutual discrimination and with mutual respect for interests, culture, customs ... yes. At least from our side.
But there will be no gifts "for brotherhood". Capitalism.

[Oleg812spb]

Common sense should not be forgotten, this is the main thing in any business. And don't chase them.

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[the same doctor]

It is necessary not to predict where the Leopards will appear at the front, but to demand weapons that these Leopards will reliably destroy. In principle, perhaps the Kornets will cope with them, but I would like the troops to receive other weapons: cheaper, more powerful and more numerous. And one whose operators will be safe, unlike the operators of the Cornets.

[Aken]

What weapon are we talking about? Tell me.

[Argon]

Javelins...
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[SSR]

Quote: Argon

Javelins...
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We read.

Thus, the maximum firing range of the American Javelin anti-tank systems is 2,5 km. At the "Cornet" - 5,5 km. In the Kornet-D modification, it has been brought up to 10 km.

The maximum range of leoperds, you yourself can.

The main armament of the Leopard is a 120 mm smoothbore gun. The length of the gun barrel is 5520 mm. Aimed firing range: in a static position - 3 m, in motion - 500 m. The main sight is EMES-2, which was specially developed for this tank model by Zeiss.
topwar.ru

In general, your hope for javelins is not entirely clear.

[Argon]

Well, if not javelins then nlavy. There the essence is "shot - forgot." And with laser guidance, this is no longer ice. They detect targeting and if they don’t attack first, they can get away from the attack at such distances that you are talking about.

[Sebostyuan]

For example, FPV drones with RPG markings. Control glasses and remote control are reusable. The kamikaze drone itself costs 30000-40000 rubles. Range is 2 km. If you have a retro-show drone, it can also be a reconnaissance drone - 10 km.

[the same doctor]

I would like to express my proposal, but there is no one. If these gentlemen have not been able to agree on tank grills for years, then offering something that requires interdepartmental and intersectoral coordination and cooperation is stupid.
I think if the Kremlin's policy on the issue of weapons improves, then our designers will think of such things themselves and quickly.

[Rumata]

Why are geraniums bad? 100 times cheaper than a tank. To them, only video cameras with an IR range should be attached.
Maybe Lancets. If they don’t blow up the BC, then they will blind, and therefore immobilize for sure.

[Svetlana]

Geraniums and the like, unlike loitering ammunition such as the Lancet, are not maneuverable. They plan well, which gives them long range, but they are not nimble and relatively small and it is difficult to hit the target with them. (Or almost impossible)

[Rumata]

Gygygy. And the tanks are highly maneuverable.))) I can imagine how the pilot of Leoperda sharply pulls the steering wheel towards himself and the car goes into a nose up.

[Svetlana]

Yeah. Demand Combat Blasters from the Ministry of Defense!! With blasters, we can't be afraid of Leopards. And if you demand Plasma Throwers, the Leopards will be finished off.

[Grits]

Quote: also a doctor

In principle, perhaps the Kornets will cope with them, but I would like the troops to receive other weapons: cheaper, more powerful and more numerous. And one whose operators will be safe, unlike the operators of the Cornets.

Better let it be attack helicopters on the way to the front line. And even better - long-range MLRS and artillery at their bases.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Gritsa

Better let it be attack helicopters on the way to the front line. And even better - long-range MLRS and artillery at their bases.

Or you can also use the good old military method from the last century: the D-20 howitzer - direct fire. She, unlike the Rapier, has a range of hoo. On a straight line - it will be quite effective. And safe (from the side of the tanks, for sure).

[MstislavHrabr]

"Leopards" will be used only after the soil has dried, together with the French "WHEELS"...

[spirit]

And Bradley, all heavy Western equipment will be brought under one command and control, for maximum efficiency.

[Digital error]

Quote: spirit

and management

electronically controlled, in which each "own" infantry fighting vehicle is displayed on an interactive map, which allows you not to waste time identifying an object that has appeared in the sight (your? someone else's?), but to immediately strike at it ...

[Cronus]

It’s like professionals are sitting there? In the conditions of destroyed houses, mudslides, as they are going to enter it, the tanks will not pass. The leopard is good at night, and in an ambush.

[Sergey250455]

The leopard is good at night and in ambush.

and somewhere in Germany

[Zaurbek]

Maybe that's why they don't close the ring around Bakhmut.?

[former soldier]

When planning a nuclear strike on Russia, the US is counting on a one-time crushing disarming strike on fundamentally important targets. By analogy with the above, it can be assumed that the Western curators of the Ukrainian General Staff will plan, during the spring offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, to deliver a short massive strike with all available artillery weapons on our previously reconnoitered main targets: ammunition depots, weapons, deployment sites and transport communications to the maximum depth from the LBS. The main direction, without a doubt, is Azov. At the same time, all armored vehicles received by the Ukrainian Armed Forces over the winter/spring will be thrown here. Therefore, do not expect Leopards now. There is no point in smearing them all over the LBS.

[solar]

Tanks will not be used for battles on the front line. Most likely, both Leopards and French wheeled vehicles, and Bradleys and other armored vehicles will be used after the front line is broken through in the steppe area (Melitopol or Kherson region), and not in the built-up area, similar to the mobile groups during the actions in the Kharkov region last fall.

[tsvetahaki]

But it’s interesting, everyone who confidently joyfully and patriotically wrote articles that the West will not supply tanks or will supply a couple of pieces - are they foreign agents?

[blackGRAIL]

Kyiv has (Soviet) tanks. There is no need to use Western tanks in the battles for Artemovsk. The need for these tanks is connected with the planned spring offensive - more precisely, in tanks in general.

[Sith]

Quote from solar

Tanks will not be used for battles on the front line. Most likely, both Leopards and French wheeled vehicles, and Bradleys and other armored vehicles will be used after the front line is broken through in the steppe area (Melitopol or Kherson region), and not in the built-up area, similar to the mobile groups during the actions in the Kharkov region last fall.

In the steppe area, tanks also don’t have much chance ... because it’s simply not possible for either side to suppress all the artillery with impudence, and advancing gradually entails heavy losses of both artillery and armored vehicles
They will look for the thinnest line of defense, counting on its quick breakthrough and expansion with the help of a massive strike of armored vehicles.
We have enough artillery in the main directions ... obstacles too ... so that they will look for a thin line with fewer trunks
The tactics of small armor groups with the current number of vehicles that are expanding can be successful again
For this they have all the intelligence and strategists of NATO

[solar]

The tactics of small armor groups with the current number of vehicles that are expanding can be successful again

I'm talking about exactly this. If this happened in the Kharkiv region with ordinary pickups, then with armored vehicles it will be even more effective.

[Alien From]

Forum members, don’t you think that we are living incorrectly?

[Mikhail Ivanov]

The Czechs are already waiting for the Leopards, the reward is drying up for the heroes!
Allaudinov is a fucking man! One of the best commanders at the front. A very objective person. And he has been fighting for years.
And, in general, why is everyone so worried about these Fritz tanks? So many tanks have already been burned there in nine years that one more, one less won't change much. If a Ukrainian was given a thousand tanks, then it would be important. A few dozen will not change the course of events.
Yesterday at Solovyov's, Bagdasarov gave statistics on the use of Bradley and Abrams in Iraq. Of the more than a thousand tanks, mattresses lost more than half. And out of more than two thousand Bradleys, less than a thousand went home. And these are dry statistics.
Joy, of course, is not enough from this, but we have no choice - we will burn them.

[solar]

Gulf War (1991), 1800 Abrams of various modifications.

A much more sophisticated sighting system, better crew training and the use of depleted uranium ammunition allowed the Abrams tanks to hit Iraqi vehicles at distances significantly exceeding the latter's effective firing range (125 mm ZBM9[89] shells of Iraqi T-72s.... As a result, in the overwhelming majority of tank battles, the Abrams were victorious.... On February 26, a major tank battle took place with the Iraqi Tawahalna Division, during which the Abrams destroyed 24 T-72 tanks, losing 4 tanks damaged.[88].

According to the final report of the US Department of Defense before the US Congress, 18 tanks were lost and damaged during the war[94]. At the same time, according to the US Army, a total of 23 Abrams were shot down during the war, of which 9 were completely destroyed[95]. The incapacitation of "Abrams" (up to 4) by Iraqi tanks is confirmed by official American documents.

[RAF_1993]

We have SPBE for such purposes, both for aircraft and for MLRS. However, I have not heard of it being used yet.

[sgr291158]

Well, what is special about this tank, a tank is like a tank. In the Great Patriotic War, they also scared tigers and leopards.

[Chip4ik]

For good, it is necessary to cover them in the rear, so as not to risk our guys.