The first line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the way from Bakhmut to Slavyansk fell, the fighters of PMC "Wagner" entered Dubovo-Vasilyevka

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The first line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the way from Bakhmut to Slavyansk fell, the fighters of PMC "Wagner" entered Dubovo-Vasilyevka

Information is confirmed that Russian fighters entered the settlement of Dubovo-Vasilyevka. It is located northwest of Bakhmut - behind the previously liberated village of Berkhovka.

The reports say that the assault groups of PMC "Wagner" inflicted a defeat on the enemy, who retreated to the north-west from Bakhmut (Artyomovsk) and tried to build defense lines along the highway to Slavyansk. The first line of such defense fell under the onslaught of the Wagner fighters. This made it possible to enter Dubovo-Vasilyevka. The assault operations of the second line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue - along the Orekhov-Vasilyevka - Privolye line.





Success in the Dubovo-Vasilyevka area allows our fighters to act in several directions at once, putting pressure on the enemy. One of these directions is the second line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the direction of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk - the village of Orekhovo-Vasilyevka. At the same time, it becomes possible to strike at the enemy located in the Clock Yar from the north.

Under such conditions, the enemy is forced to vary the reserves, realizing that if the defense at least in one of the indicated directions falls completely, then the Russian troops will quickly approach either Slavyansk or enter Konstantinovka.

Earlier, the Ukrainian side reported that once again General Syrsky arrived in Bakhmut. However, later it turned out that this was misinformation. Syrsky did not arrive in the city itself, but at one of the command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the west of it. This once again indicates that the state of affairs for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Bakhmut (Artyomovsk) itself is such that safe entry and exit is no longer possible.
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    1. +16
      8 March 2023 21: 20
      If only the musicians did not get into the environment. I hope with ammunition norms?
      1. -21
        8 March 2023 21: 25
        Artillerymen from the Zaporizhzhya direction stated that all their shells are leaving the Wagner PMC, which “can fire a weekly ration of ammunition in a day”
        1. +24
          8 March 2023 21: 43
          Quote: ZhEK-Vodogrey
          weekly ammo ration

          The norms of ammunition in the war is just a mockery of those who perform combat missions. During a combat operation, the norm is the amount of ammunition that is 10 -15% more than necessary. And the fact that the staff did not calculate, and the rear did not cope should be a separate topic for Shoigu's personnel decisions.
          1. +4
            8 March 2023 22: 05
            Quote: Vita VKO
            And the fact that the staff did not calculate, and the rear did not cope should be a separate topic for Shoigu's personnel decisions.

            Shoigu is the Minister of Defense, it is his job to approve this norm, purchase it from the manufacturer and deliver it to the Defense Ministry warehouse. Further, the district headquarters manages and solves logistical problems. Sometimes the Minister may assist his subordinates in transport by providing contact with the Minister of Transport.
            1. +3
              8 March 2023 23: 11
              The Wagnerites attacked Bogdanovo and Khromovo, as I understand it, so that the Nazis would not feel safe there. It was too early to take these villages.
              But Dubovo-Vasilyevka will probably be taken seriously.
              There is only a kilometer to Berkhovka, and enemy snipers can do a lot of damage.
            2. Qas
              +3
              9 March 2023 02: 04
              Those. in your opinion, is he not directly responsible for the course of the war?
              1. -3
                9 March 2023 08: 45
                Quote: Qas
                Those. in your opinion, is he not directly responsible for the course of the war?

                If done wisely, then Shoigu should not be allowed to plan operations.
                He has no military education.
                He is an engineer and economist. Not military.
                His vote only as a deliberative maximum should be when planning the course of the NWO.
                But he must be fully responsible for the supply of the SVO. Instead, with Prigogine, he suddenly began to doggie, to the detriment of the course of the NWO.
                I just don't know if it's the right thing to do.
            3. +1
              9 March 2023 03: 13
              Thank you, now it is clear that he does not solve anything, and you should not rely on him.
          2. +3
            8 March 2023 22: 09
            Quote: Vita VKO
            The norms of ammunition in the war is just a mockery of those who perform combat missions.

            This is normal practice. Firstly, any trunk has a resource. Secondly, there are always "cunning" ready to sell "surplus". Thirdly, when relocating, it is easier to "quit", because they will give more than to drag on a hump. Well, and so on.
            1. +7
              8 March 2023 23: 16
              [/ quote] Secondly, there are always "cunning" ready to sell "surplus". [quote]
              E nope, this is the first and can be more detailed? We are talking specifically about the Wagner, to whom will Prigozhin sell shells when his son is there (yes, this is even a rhetorical question)? In addition to the resource, the barrel has an enemy that will free it from the resource if you do not shoot at it, so saving shells is not saving the barrel. In the third redeployment, "Wagner" did not have a single one, they never left their occupied positions. And in the very first, because of the lack of shells, people die, Prigogine has been talking about this for a month now. And the most interesting thing, I’m just torn with curiosity, explain, how can you save shells? Like, fortified, three shells were laid, the guys didn’t hit, no matter for what reason, should they throw a couple of dozen attack aircraft there, and not spend three more shells? Is it savings? It’s just that I haven’t heard that they’re firing anywhere, well, like, what’s moving there, a dog or a person, but let’s fizzle, let’s see.
            2. -2
              9 March 2023 03: 15
              It's good for some that 37th year and no one will shoot anyone.
            3. -1
              9 March 2023 12: 28
              They write about the cost of shells:
              The cost of one projectile for the BM-21 Grad multiple launch rocket launcher is about a thousand dollars. Caliber 122 mm.
              During a volley, he fires 40 projectiles. Forty thousand dollars in twenty seconds.
              The accuracy is very poor - the development of the early 60s. They thrash around the squares. Guess who it hits.
              Multiple launch rocket system 9K57 Uragan. Caliber 220 mm.
              16 shells. Each averages $12. One volley - almost $ 000
              Multiple launch rocket system 9K58 "Smerch". Caliber 300 mm
              It hits very far - up to 120 km. Large affected area - 672 thousand sq.m. Accuracy - 0,3% of range
              12 shells. Very expensive - each about $ 80. Forty seconds of fire - almost a million dollars
              One shot from a conventional 152-mm howitzer 2A65 - 300-400 dollars. One shot from a tank - from 300 to 1000 dollars. These are ordinary shells, and expensive cumulative ZBK29M, 3BK31 up to 5000 dollars.
              https://www.inpearls.ru/

              I hope the numbers are outdated and it's good if it's cheaper.
              1. 0
                9 March 2023 16: 12
                It all depends on the number of produced stocks per day.
                The more of them, the lower their cost.
          3. +10
            8 March 2023 22: 27
            Quote: Vita VKO
            The norms of ammunition in the war is just a mockery of those who perform combat missions.

            The norm is the issuance of food rations, but not ammunition.
            Where is the ass-pa there and ammunition, PMCs or the army, but give it to someone who needs it, but GIVE it !!! Who holds the front on himself - GIVE !!!
            During the Second World War, partisans were not an army, but Stalin equated them with an army.
            And so it was. It's time to think about PMCs, they are not an army, but they fight no worse than the army (or maybe I think better).
            1. -4
              9 March 2023 06: 30
              Not normal, not right. Necessary measure. On the other side, by the way, it’s also bad with shells, there are enough guns in abundance, but there are few shells.
              Ours had a surge of activity for about a week, I associate this with the ship that came across the Caspian from Iran. Now it looks like they shot him.
              Well, plus it arrives at the warehouses of the BC. They already reach far beyond the BS line
          4. 0
            9 March 2023 00: 49
            There are no daily and weekly norms in artillery. There are standards for goals. Since they manage to process so many goals - honor them and glory! Shells do not end. This is a local conflict, but reserves for the world.
        2. +1
          8 March 2023 23: 27
          Judging by the info, the Wagners are not quite right with ammunition ... It infuriates that those who are in the thick of it are talking about the problem of shells ...
        3. 0
          9 March 2023 13: 34
          Looks like we're running low on ammo. They would have bought even from North Korea.
      2. +5
        8 March 2023 21: 51
        Alas, red tape continues with ammunition after the promises of the Ministry of Defense to provide! Here the question sometimes arises: in Moscow, whose Ministry of "Defence"? Or is it all because it is not a war, but something vaguely formulated?
        1. +7
          8 March 2023 22: 11
          Quote: Xenofont
          Alas, red tape continues with ammunition after the promises of the Ministry of Defense to provide!

          And at the same time, the Wagner representative at the headquarters of the Special Military Operation Front (SVO) was simply "kicked out of the door" and denied entry. How can men fight, how to hold the front, how to kill Nazis? Here is the stance:
          The Armed Forces of Ukraine built a pontoon between Khromovo and Bakhmut. Reinforcements enter the city along it. (ZA VETERAN'S NOTES)
          The Wagners entered Dubovo-Vasilyevka near Bakhmut. We visited earlier a week ago, now there are heavy battles.
          The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Bakhmut have already exceeded by several times the losses during the autumn counteroffensive in the Kharkov / Kherson direction. More than 5 brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine need to be re-staffed, 4 more need to be replenished by 30-40%.

          And we are all about winning.
        2. -4
          9 March 2023 03: 16
          There is a defense of whom defense is needed, it’s not for us to argue ...
      3. +7
        8 March 2023 21: 58
        the trouble is that for MO + Shoigu, THIS is a click on the nose laughing .... so "praise" the army and the Russian Guard .... which is NOT HEARD AT THE FRONT ... from the word COMPLETELY !!!..... except for Vanger Yes ... it's just envy .... and from this there are spokes in the wheels
        1. -2
          8 March 2023 22: 47
          Quote: Vladislav_2
          the trouble is that for MO + Shoigu, THIS is a click on the nose

          Minus - "candelabra in the face."
      4. +2
        8 March 2023 22: 04
        Quote: Balu
        If only the musicians did not get into the environment. I hope with ammunition norms?

        Not sure, probably not.
      5. Maz
        +5
        8 March 2023 22: 36
        Respect for the musicians, despite all the sticks in the wheels go forward through the thorns to the stars. Respect to the Orchestra and Prigogine
    2. +8
      8 March 2023 21: 25
      And "Wagner" already confirms that they entered Dubovo - Vasilyevka? I checked it, they confirm that a heavy battle is going on. To help them, they should hit to the north, to Seversk, if possible, or Kupyansk.
      1. +7
        8 March 2023 21: 30
        Quote: tralflot1832
        And "Wagner" already confirms that they took Dubovo - Vasilyevka?

        So far, no one seems to say that they took it. It says: entered the village
        1. 0
          8 March 2023 22: 41
          Quote: Volodin
          So far, no one seems to say that her have taken. It says: entered to the village
          Exactly, "but in the newspapers, they write about it in a dull way ..." request (Marriage of Balzaminov)
          First line of defense APU on the way from Bakhmut to Slavyansk fell, fighters of PMC "Wagner" entered Dubovo-Vasilyevka
      2. -1
        8 March 2023 21: 32
        According to the cards in the cart, it has long been under control
      3. +3
        8 March 2023 21: 50
        Quote: tralflot1832
        And "Wagner" already confirms that they entered Dubovo - Vasilyevka? I checked it, they confirm that a heavy battle is going on. To help them, they should hit to the north, to Seversk, if possible, or Kupyansk.

        From there, part of the Cossack Viysk was removed under "Bakhmut", it seems they waved their hand at Kupyansk ...
    3. +4
      8 March 2023 21: 33
      Every time after cards with red arrows, I want to say like in an advertisement of the 90s. Set realistic goals for yourself. In my non-expert opinion, the number one goal is not to miss the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and stay at busy lines. And only then gasp ....
      1. +2
        8 March 2023 22: 58
        The initiative at the front can also break the plans of the enemy! The main thing is not to throw hats, but to know what you are doing bully
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    5. +5
      8 March 2023 21: 42
      The first line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the way from Bakhmut to Slavyansk fell, the fighters of PMC "Wagner" entered Dubovo-Vasilyevka
      . The men are busy and do it right soldier
    6. +3
      8 March 2023 21: 43
      Another Wagner success, extraordinary. Give Wagner everything he needs to keep going.
      1. +4
        8 March 2023 21: 52
        Why not develop success by saturating the front with shells, equipment and people!??? I have one answer. Because there is no 1 or 2 or 3. What are her thoughts from whom? In another way, this is not a war, but a farce, but ours ... Traitors ???!!!
        1. +1
          8 March 2023 22: 15
          Shells, equipment and people are variables of the same equation. Few of one, increased losses of the other. Cynically, of course. Regarding the shortage of cartridges, shells and equipment, sensible articles have been written here since 2012. Only, as a rule, the discussion ended with the words - we still have 20 tons in warehouses. tanks, and shells for 2 world will be enough.
    7. 0
      8 March 2023 21: 51
      I remember that they entered Bakhmut back in August.
    8. -1
      8 March 2023 22: 35
      Strengthen the flanks, pull up reserves, after taking Orekhovo-Vasilevka, turn north and launch an offensive on the Seversk logistics and communication lines ...
      1. +1
        8 March 2023 23: 48
        Yeah, without taking Artyomovsk, advance in the opposite direction! Marshal.....
    9. -2
      8 March 2023 22: 44
      Earlier, the Ukrainian side reported that once again General Syrsky arrived in Bakhmut. However, later it turned out that this was misinformation. Syrsky did not arrive in the city itself, but at one of the command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the west of it.
      And we immediately found those who shouted "how is it, everything is gone, they lie to us."
    10. 0
      8 March 2023 22: 49
      If the Wagner PMC went so far ahead, exposed its right wing - there may be a SZU counterattack
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    12. 0
      9 March 2023 00: 35
      Quote: Balu
      If only the musicians did not get into the environment. I hope with ammunition norms?

      Information is received from the NMD zone about the entry of new private military companies into the combat zone. Military correspondent Kotenok reports from the scene that new units are already entering the DPR and other new Russian regions.
    13. +2
      9 March 2023 00: 47
      21st century, computers, and "cards" are just creepy :(
    14. +9
      9 March 2023 03: 09
      It is good that among those who are authorized to make decisions, there is at least one necessary and effective person - Yevgeny Prigozhin.
      At dawn on March 8, he, along with Lotus, who led the assault on Soledar, filmed a video near a tank in Artemovsk, where he specifically lowered the jester Zelensky. At the same time, the shooting was under constant artillery fire. Separately, we note that it was not a single shell that fell a kilometer from Solovyov, but a systemic shelling!
      From there, he went to the positions of the artillerymen, who were spreading the Ukrainian fleeing from Artemovsk, where he also filmed interviews with the performers, who specifically explained to the MO what they were missing.
      In the afternoon, another video appeared with a fighter who introduced himself as the full namesake of Shoigu's son-in-law and asked not to compare him with this man of non-traditional sexual orientation. Which once again demonstrated to the audience the attitude towards the Minister of Defense on the part of ordinary people.
      In the evening, the news came that the assault groups of musicians did not move towards Artemovsky (Khromovo), but rushed along the M-03 highway and entered Dubovo-Vasilyevka, which indicates that Wagner continues to move on the shoulders of the enemy in order to continue wide coverage of the territory to the west and north-west of Artemovsk.
      Thus, Prigozhin did more things in one day than a bunch of parasites from various organizations, from PR services to the Defense Ministry, which once again had nothing to demonstrate to the Russians.
      God grant the musicians good luck in their extremely difficult affairs. And I would really like to see support from the regular army, especially in the Seversk area and lower on the map, where Wagner risks getting a flank attack from the Armed Forces of Ukraine ...
      1. +1
        9 March 2023 10: 31
        Not only Prigozhin fights like a lion. The mobilized guys, volunteers and people's militia are moving forward along the entire front line. No extra noise. You really are.
    15. +1
      9 March 2023 04: 19
      The increased consumption of ammunition with the defeat of targets is the saved life of our fighters and the earliest approach to victory. Everything for the front! Everything for the Victory! WWII slogan.
    16. -7
      9 March 2023 05: 31
      Russian troops will quickly approach either Slavyansk or enter Konstantinovka.

      They can approach quickly, but they will have to fight like in Bakhmut for every house.
    17. -1
      9 March 2023 05: 59
      Quote: midivan
      I'm just torn with curiosity, explain - how can you save shells?

      We already wrote: in order to go on the offensive near Ugledar, they fired less in order to accumulate them.
    18. -1
      9 March 2023 07: 53
      Somewhere kahls are concentrated. They are waiting for the approach of a sufficient number of imported armored vehicles and dry soil for the tracks. Somewhere soon rush ..
      1. 0
        9 March 2023 09: 57
        Or they just don't have anything. They won't attack with 4 Polish tanks.
        But in order to prevent any options, it is high time to mobilize a million people and complete the NWO by May.
      2. 0
        10 March 2023 14: 47
        It is surprising that with such losses in manpower and no desire to go to war (judging by the video of the runners from the military commissars), they have accumulated such large groups.

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