Museum of weapons that no longer exist

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Museum of weapons that no longer exist
Higgins Armory Building


David girded himself with a sword over his armor
and tried to walk in them, because I was not used to it. -
I cannot walk in them, he said to Saul,
because I'm not used to them. And he took them off.

17 Kings 39: XNUMX

Weapons museums of the world. Today we will again go to the American continent, and get acquainted with the collection of the museum, which no longer exists. Just imagine that this happens, it turns out: there was a museum, exhibits were exhibited in it, and now, the museum no longer exists, and the collections ended up in a completely different place. We are talking about a completely unique private museum of Higgins, which exhibited beautiful samples of armor and weapons of the New Age for quite a long time.



John Woodman Higgins was a wealthy industrialist from Worcester, Massachusetts, where he owned the Worcester Pressed Steel Company. In the 1920s, he visited Europe several times, where he bought weapons, armor and various interesting metal products. In 1927, he was especially lucky: he managed to buy eight complete armor pieces from the collection of George Jay Gould. He brought all this to his house, which they very quickly remembered to failure, so that it became extremely difficult to live in it: here and there stood knightly armor, in boxes were various metal curiosities and glassware.

By 1928, his collection was larger than his house could hold, so in 1929 he decided to build a special steel and glass building for it next to his factory. And he called it that - "Museum of Steel and Glass." The opening was very solemn and took place on January 12, 1931. The Boston Symphony Orchestra was invited to the celebration, and the sons of Higgins, dressed in knightly armor, greeted the guests.

In its original form, the museum exhibited a wide variety of objects made specifically from steel, including such steel products as medieval weapons, car parts, and even ... an airplane made of steel suspended from its ceiling.

The tour of the exhibits began with a walk through the exhibition of knightly armor and ended with a tour of the production lines to see modern steel production. It was possible to get into the production workshop through special podiums connecting the factory and the museum itself. Moreover, Higgins invited not only just visitors to the museum, but also invited his employees to come there during breaks to be inspired by the ideas of the past ... He died in 1961, leaving a donation of $ 17 to the museum.

Gradually, however, the museum's exposition was reorganized. Only weapons and armor remained in it, that is, from the Steel and Glass Museum, it turned into the Higgins Armory Museum. And until 2004, he was the second in the United States in terms of the wealth of his weapons collections after the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York. And it was the only museum in the States dedicated only to weapons and armor!

His weapons collection consists of 2 items, and it contains as many as 000 completely complete armor. And all this would have been just fine if it had not closed at the end of 24 due to lack of funding. Of course, the collections were not lost, but were transferred to the Worcester Art Museum. The former museum building also found a new use: it was sold in December 2013 and now serves as a venue for various local events.

True, at the Worcester Art Museum, the collection is currently scattered throughout the museum, so that antique armor is adjacent to works of art, such as paintings and sculptures, however, also depicting armor and weapons. Every first Saturday of the month, the museum hosts demonstrations of the armor so that visitors can better put it in a historical context. The museum also organizes special educational programs on medieval stories, weapons and armor, conducts school seminars, and its employees also give relevant lectures for school teachers.

The Olive Higgins Prouty Research Library, founded in 1997, continues its work. It contains several thousand books on weapons and armor, so you can also come there and ... read any of them!

It was the Higgins armory and a major center for the study of medieval martial arts. A number of historians worked there, who wrote scientific monographs and reports on its materials. She sponsored meetings at scientific conferences, as well as lectures, both in the US and in Europe.

The former museum also hosted lessons in historical fencing and martial arts. In a word, the collections in it were excellent, and they did not lie idle - they were actively used.

By the way, what was not there. Not only full sets of armor, but also a gladiator's helmet and even a stuffed dog named "Helmutt" dressed in a reproduction greyhound armor. The oldest artifact in the collection is a bronze dagger from the Eastern Mediterranean, circa 3000-1500 BC. BC e. There are gladiatorial and Corinthian helmets, Renaissance gauntlets and ... the helmet of a French cuirassier of the mid-XNUMXth century.

But the main part of plate equipment belongs to the New Age, that is, the period after 1500. These are helmets for jousting tournaments, a hunting crossbow, full sets of armor for horsemen and foot soldiers, and even ... an anvil, on which such items were made.

There are African exotics: throwing knives and axes. There are weapons of the East: chain mail, a horned kulah hood (helmet) from India, as well as samurai armor from Japan. It is interesting that among the exhibits there are also armor for horses and even dogs.

Of course, we won’t be able to see all this, but we will undoubtedly conduct an interesting and eventful tour of the collection of the Higgins Museum. So…


First of all, the Great Hall. This is where our tour starts. And here is a tournament with a barrier


Gothic armor from Northern Italy or Flanders, Giovanni da Caravalle, 1440-1505 Typical "white armor", devoid of any decorations


The same armor close-up. The bevor (forehand), the spear hook (fokr) and the awesome "crow's beak" in his hands are clearly visible


Armor for a youth, 1555–1560 Southern Germany or Austria


Full knight's battle armor, late XNUMXth century. Northern Italy. Exhibition at the Volchester Museum of Art


"Armor in three quarters" (did not have cover for the legs). May have belonged to Henry Herbert, 1560nd Earl of Pembroke. Milan, 1570–XNUMX The so-called armored carving that adorns them attracts attention: the background is removed, and the details of the drawing stand out noticeably ...


Composite armor composed of two armor sets, by Franz and/or Wolfgang Grossschedel, Southern Germany (Landshut), 1560-1570.


The same armor close-up. The fokr has gone somewhere ...


Ceremonial armor "in the Roman style", Italy, late 1500s - early 1600s, with additional decorations made in the XNUMXth century.


Tournament armor for Jostra in the Italian style. Work of master Anton Peffenhauser, Augsburg and Italy, 1570-1575


German-style jostra armor with a distinctive "toad head" helmet. Work of master Valentin Sibenburger, Nuremberg, circa 1480-1540.


People at that time were of different complexion ...


The pinnacle of armor craftsmanship - "Maximilian armor", South Germany, ca. 1525-1530


Another set of "Maximilian armor", Southern Germany, ca. 1510–1520


He has an impressive face, doesn't he? Fortunately, the fashion for such visors was not very long!


Armor from Sudan - there the knightly weapons of the riders lingered until 1898!


Egyptian chain mail, ca. 1500 with later inserts


Armor for the "sloping barrier" tournament, 1575–1580. Italy, Germany, France


"Field armor" by Pompeo della Cesa, Milan, circa 1590


Admire their finishes!


Tournament armor for foot duel of Duke Julius Brunswick-Wolfenbattel, 1555-1560.


Turkish (probably) chainmail 1550–1650


But we finally got to the plate armor of the cuirassier-pistolers - the three-quarter armor of the cuirassier. The Netherlands and Savoy, 1610–1645 Blackening restored afterwards


Beauty, and only. This armor is in no way inferior in appearance to knightly armor! It's just that anyone could wear them. If only he had money. Nobility no longer played a role!


Three-piece armor of a German cuirassier, as indicated by a red scarf, Augsburg, 1620-1625, in the hand of Pappenheimer's rapier, Northern Europe, ca. 1625-1650.


Three-piece armor of a French cuirassier, 1610-1620, with a wheeled pistol in his hands. The latter was made in Germany ca. 1625–1650


Needless to say - this cuirassier looked very impressive outwardly!


And this, of course, is a pikeman, London, circa 1625-1630. The pike was made in Lucerne, the Arsenal of Switzerland, probably around 1600.


Once upon a time, all these four fought against each other!


The pretentiousness of Japanese armor after 1600 is already known to us, and they are also in the Higgins collection. Shell Helmet (awabi uchidashi kabuto), 1618. Made by Nagasone master Tojiro Mitsumasa


And in the museum you could see this “tournament show”. Only it's a pity that the figures in it are motionless


Breastplate and helmet of the French Carabinieri 1863–1865


The Higgins Museum has a lot of all kinds of polearms. But I liked this one the most - real wuj - “bull tongue”


1790 sword hilt by Josiah Wedgwood
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  1. +9
    11 March 2023 04: 39
    Very interesting ! Thanks for the collection!
    1. +16
      11 March 2023 05: 54
      I join! Good morning comrades!!!
      It's a pity that Vyacheslav Olegovich did not post a photo of an armored fighting dog!
      I will try to correct this misunderstanding.
      Dog in armor!

      Elephants in armor!



      I could not resist adding the latter because of the color and sadness that I did not find historical confirmation of the existence of armored cats. laughing
      1. +8
        11 March 2023 06: 50
        Who dares to use the cat family for combat purposes?

        Maximum - hunting with cheetahs. And then, they are an exception to the family.

        And when the rest of the representatives sit in ambush, other tendencies develop.
        1. +9
          11 March 2023 11: 42
          Hello, Sergey! smile

          Who dares to use the cat family for combat purposes?


          Yes, and the cat family does not need all these pieces of iron, for them, in combat and hunting, speed and reaction are important.
          In my opinion, such armor will only interfere with a cat, and they don’t like to carry something on themselves. However, they did, either they were furious with fat, or the devil knows what for.


          1. +5
            11 March 2023 13: 12
            Hi Constantine!

            By asking a question, he became interested. And here's what I came across.

            The news has been preserved that in 1100, when the Lombard crusaders approached Constantinople, the Greeks released lions and cheetahs kept in the palace on them, and the latter did not attack the attackers.
            1. +6
              11 March 2023 13: 27
              Lombard crusaders
              It was not otherwise that they went with field mobile pawnshops to buy up the loot in Jerusalem, and the Greeks were ahead of them.
              1. +4
                11 March 2023 13: 45
                It is said that the crowd was motley and poorly armed.

                But I agree that we have, first of all, other associations with Lombardy.
              2. +7
                11 March 2023 13: 52
                It was not otherwise with field mobile pawnshops,
                Hello Anton. In Lombardy they took up banking after once again they drove the Jews from this area, naturally, with a ban on their main profession. So we had to take care of finances ourselves, and not only our own.
                1. +6
                  11 March 2023 14: 28
                  Hello Sergey!
                  In fact, on the path of "honest taking of money" the Florentines had the greatest success. But all the "glory" went to the Lombards.
            2. +7
              11 March 2023 13: 48
              And the cheetahs rightly decided that the lions would figure it out without them, and their own skin would be safer. Clever beasts, that's why they have a hangover at someone else's feast. laughing

              "And I eat an apple and look out the window" (c)
              1. +3
                11 March 2023 14: 22
                Moreover, in one "source" cheetahs are mentioned. In the other - leopards. In any case, I'm glad for smart creatures.
              2. +2
                14 March 2023 09: 00
                Quote: Sea Cat
                And the cheetahs rightly decided that the lions would figure it out without them, and their own skin would be safer. Clever beasts, that's why they have a hangover at someone else's feast. laughing

                "And I eat an apple and look out the window" (c)

                By the way, cheetahs NEVER attack or attack people. In general, cheetahs are the only big cats that are subject to petting and they still purr like domestic cats. But it’s better not to keep everyone else at home, although there are documents that Ramses the second had a domestic lion and he went into battle with him, and even the lion once saved Ramses’ life, although it really was ... Who knows.
          2. +5
            11 March 2023 13: 57
            Especially the armor for the tail is amazing. Should he wrap his tail around this wire, or was his tail tied to it?
      2. +10
        11 March 2023 06: 56
        Here is a fully armored cat for you good
        Alas, the text of my comment, as always, well, you understand ...
        1. +10
          11 March 2023 10: 10
          But the cat is amazing!
          Good Saturday morning friends!
          And good evening drinks wassat )))
        2. +4
          11 March 2023 13: 54
          Why isn't his tail armored? Flaw! In the original armor, there was even a place for the tail.
          1. +4
            11 March 2023 16: 43

            if you give a pendel in the ass with such shoes, it won’t seem weak smile
            1. +3
              11 March 2023 16: 57
              By the way, I met a similar "reception" somewhere, either in fencing books, or in miniatures ...
            2. +5
              11 March 2023 18: 30
              To do this, you still need to start a leg, and kick it properly, I doubt that such an antrash can be done in this gland. smile
              1. +6
                11 March 2023 18: 53
                I doubt that in this gland it is possible to do such antrasha

                Konstantin hi
                inquire
                1. +7
                  11 March 2023 19: 12
                  inquire


                  I'm not Kostya, but the call worked.
                  It is simply amazing how easily warriors in armor move. Did not expect. In the movies, armored men are clumsy.
                  1. +4
                    11 March 2023 20: 46
                    Lyudmila Yakovlevna, don't watch Eisenstein anymore!
                  2. +7
                    11 March 2023 21: 47
                    Quote: depressant
                    inquire


                    I'm not Kostya, but the call worked.
                    It is simply amazing how easily warriors in armor move. Did not expect. In the movies, armored men are clumsy.

                    In most films, armor is put on inexperienced extras and no one bothers to adjust these armor to size - therefore clumsiness and awkwardness. In some films, such as the modern "Alexander. Battle of the Neva", they invited reenactors with their armor for extras, everything was different there. The guys are experienced, bugurtilis heartily.
                  3. +1
                    19 March 2023 09: 30
                    It is simply amazing how easily warriors in armor move. Did not expect. In the movies, armored men are clumsy.
                    And you will go in the spring for some kind of reconstruction, you will see it live. Especially when they arrange a buhurt. Spectacle cool and unforgettable!
                2. +8
                  11 March 2023 20: 11
                  Thanks, Dima. smile
                  It is true that they say that it is better to see once ... To be honest, I did not expect it and I apologize to the knights. True, they rumble like during a pogrom in a hardware store, but these are already trifles compared to their own lives.
                3. +4
                  11 March 2023 20: 42
                  Sorry Dimitri!
                  A very famous vidos, and very poorly filmed.
              2. +5
                11 March 2023 18: 58
                Do not doubt, uncle, in such armor even not such evils got up.
          2. +1
            11 March 2023 22: 53
            And in the case of the "sphinxes" the tail is not a pity, one hell - a flawed breed!
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    1. +4
      11 March 2023 05: 49
      Quote: Carat
      Looking at the armor of a knight, you understand what the next "Warrior" for motorized riflemen will soon turn into

      And it has already turned, only special grades of plastic have replaced metal ...
      1. +7
        11 March 2023 06: 00
        And it has already turned, only special grades of plastic have replaced metal ...

        Yep, schzzzz...
        1. +6
          11 March 2023 10: 13
          I remember that after the introduction of military suits from Yudashkin, hundreds of soldiers in the Far East ended up in hospitals with pneumonia.
          1. +7
            11 March 2023 13: 59
            I remember that after the introduction of military suits from Yudashkin, hundreds of soldiers in the Far East ended up in hospitals with pneumonia.
            In a good way, then it was necessary to treat them not at the expense of the budget of the Moscow Region, but at the expense of Yudashkin and that woodpecker in uniform who pushed through this uniform.
            1. +1
              12 March 2023 23: 50
              Yudashkin designed the form, although not ideal, but from solid materials. This economical MO remade it for shit and sticks. Yudashkin even tried to sue so that this disgrace would not be called by his name.
  3. +5
    11 March 2023 06: 33
    Thank you!

    Interesting story. The museum is a fairly stable entity.

    And there is a limit to everything.

    It turns out that the Hermitage, the Louvre, and the Uffizi Gallery are also not eternal.

    However, if they leave, then probably together with the state. And maybe the state will survive.

    Although Fate still has such a thing as a natural disaster in reserve.

    Why are they better than the 6 and 7 wonders of the world?
    1. +3
      11 March 2023 10: 19
      Although Fate still has such a thing as a natural disaster in reserve.

      Sergei, natural disasters are man-made.
      Experts say that if the ammunition depot in Transnistria explodes, a scorched desert will remain from Chisinau, Odessa and Nikolaev. But these are historical places! And of course there are museums.
      1. +3
        11 March 2023 13: 14
        As you can guess, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, over the past year, the museums have also suffered.
        1. +5
          11 March 2023 14: 11
          Sergey, they got it even earlier.
          Where is the Scythian gold from the Crimean museums?
          They sent it to exhibitions in Europe, but the Europeans refused to return it.
          And everyone seems to have forgotten about it.
          I remember.
          I will simply keep silent about the position of museums today on LBS. And that's not enough.
          1. +8
            11 March 2023 14: 16
            Where is the Scythian gold from the Crimean museums?
            Lyudmila Yakovlevna, I would like to be mistaken, but it seems that it can be returned only by driving a tank for it, nothing else.
          2. +6
            11 March 2023 14: 29
            Remember, Lyudmila Yakovlevna.

            But the Kuindzhi Museum in Mariupol, it seems, no longer exists.
            I got information that some paintings by Aivazovsky were transferred to Donetsk.

            But only knowledgeable people can say what and how.
      2. +5
        11 March 2023 14: 03
        Experts say that if the ammunition depot in Transnistria explodes, a scorched desert will remain from Chisinau, Odessa and Nikolaev.
        These are horror stories. There will be a big "Boom" with a scatter of explosive objects very far, this is really not good. And to make all the available explosives work is an impossible task.
  4. +5
    11 March 2023 06: 43
    The Higgins Museum has a lot of all kinds of polearms. But I liked this one the most - real wuj - “bull tongue”

    I would characterize this product as a lochaberex, somehow rustic for a vulga ...
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    1. +4
      11 March 2023 09: 33
      It's not vulgar at all. Voulge aka vouge, aka couteau de breche looks like this.

      And the weapon that is in the picture in the article is an early version of the halberd. In the Vulgi, this halberd was "determined" in the XNUMXth century by Viollet-le-Duc, who was an outstanding architect, but no weapons expert. Since then, this error has been wandering through various publications up to Wikipedia. In English, there are generally two Voulge articles describing different weapons.
      1. +6
        11 March 2023 09: 55
        Hello, colleague!
        In my opinion, the photograph presented by you shows alshpis. As for Viollet-le-Duc, Oakeshott is an artist, not a historian.
        1. +5
          11 March 2023 10: 38
          In my opinion, the photograph presented by you shows alshpis

          These two types of weapons are similar, especially due to the presence of a rondel guard, but their blade shape is different - the alshpis has a tetrahedral blade starting from the base.
          1. +4
            11 March 2023 11: 01
            I understand, thanks. It's just that on your first image the cutting of the blade is not very visible.
            1. +7
              11 March 2023 11: 41
              It's just that on your first image the cutting of the blade is not very visible.

              1. +4
                11 March 2023 12: 16
                couteau de breche
                Bliiin! Here's what I screwed up!!! Only when I saw the miniature and not knowing the French name did I realize that it was a fauchard!
                Thank you!
  5. +5
    11 March 2023 07: 06
    in the hand of Pappenheimer's rapier,


    In both cases, these are heavy cavalry rapiers of the "pappenheimer" type (an English derivative of the name of the famous commander "thirty"), but if in the first case the blade is clearly made in Germany (the characteristic s-shaped crosshair of the guard), then in the second the place of production raises questions. However, as well as the attribution of armor.
    1. +1
      11 March 2023 07: 20
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      raises questions.

      Here, dear Anton, I can’t say anything. I myself was not there, I did not see it, I did not hold it in my hands. What was in the explanation, then he wrote.
      1. +5
        11 March 2023 07: 25
        Yes, this is understandable, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
        I just always remember about the "pommel of the Sarmatian sword", I myself have come across more than once.
        1. +2
          11 March 2023 10: 26
          It's okay to argue!
          With difficulty I read the various names of the dangerous object and immediately did not remember them.
          But the red belt is a really terrible force!
          Who knows which one it is? wassat )))
          1. +6
            11 March 2023 10: 57
            And me, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, museum "jambs" are very annoying. Here's another one:

            Here you need to either remove the fokr from the cuirass, or remove the lucernhammer from the display case.
            1. +4
              11 March 2023 11: 30
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              Here you need to either remove the fokr from the cuirass

              So you take it off, and then it will "litter" forever in the museum bowels. hi
              1. +5
                11 March 2023 11: 46
                Sergey, but it turns out complete garbage. Purely infantry zhlyga in the hands of a cavalryman.
                1. +4
                  11 March 2023 12: 13
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  Sergey, but it turns out complete garbage. Purely infantry zhlyga in the hands of a cavalryman.

                  Yes, I agree, but apparently there was a fact of a visual effect here: something was put into the hands for beauty hi
                  1. +5
                    11 March 2023 12: 26
                    Well, they would put something cavalry, at least an estok ...
              2. +8
                11 March 2023 12: 28
                Good afternoon, Sergey!
                You have no idea what you can stumble upon in the storerooms. When our department moved from the museum building on Red Square to the Novodevichy Convent, we came across three large khaki boxes in the basement of the old storage facility. Nobody had any idea what could be there. And there was a brand new machine gun "Maxim" of the Soviet release. There was a machine gun with spare barrels in one box, a machine gun in another, a dozen and a half boxes with tapes in the third. Everything is in perfect condition, no holes in the barrels, no "bitten" drummers. Clean the grease, collect, fill the tapes, fill and ... full speed ahead! At least on the bell tower in the monastery, at least on the balcony in your apartment.laughing
                1. +6
                  11 March 2023 13: 24
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  You have no idea what you can stumble upon in the storerooms

                  Good afternoon Konstantin!
                  Of course, I have not worked in museums, but I suspect that the storerooms of any museum contain "a world of wonderful discoveries." hi
                2. +3
                  11 March 2023 15: 04
                  So this is true. And then Sukhorukov filmed the film "Brother 2" with this machine gun
                  1. +8
                    11 March 2023 17: 37
                    I can’t say for sure, by the time the film was shot, I was no longer working in the museum. But, for sure, they shot a "de-energized" machine gun from the Mosfilm arsenal, they had this stuff there through the roof and everyone worked, though with blank cartridges.
                    And in the sense that the story with the museum machine gun shown in the film is not a bluff, you can be sure that there were also more compact samples of weapons from different countries in quite combat-ready condition.
            2. +3
              11 March 2023 11: 36
              wassat good drinks hi )))
              Thank you!...
              After lying in the sediment for some time, I found:
              "An important attribute of the cuirass was a fokr - a special hook-stop for a spear attached to the right front of the breastplate"...
              And the notorious "Lucernhammer" did not even dare to look for an ax, or what? It's scary...
              For me, a knightly face is missing in this exhibition piece of medieval camouflage.
              I would make a face
              1. +6
                11 March 2023 11: 42
                And the notorious "Lucernhammer" did not even dare to look for an ax, or what?
                "Lucerne Hammer" - a pole weapon of piercing and shock-crushing action
        2. +4
          11 March 2023 12: 28
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          "Sarmatian sword pommel"

          Well, it was a lot easier...
      2. +5
        11 March 2023 12: 35
        Thank you. Interesting selection of exhibits. And your illustrations are top notch as always.
        Why don’t you, Vyacheslav Olegovich, take a swing at the Blade Museum in Solingen, There are a lot of interesting things there
    2. +4
      11 March 2023 12: 08
      but if in the first case the blade is clearly made in Germany (the characteristic s-shaped crosshair of the guard), then in the second case the place of production raises questions.

      The two most common production sites for Pappenheimer hilt rapier blades are Solingen or Toledo.
      As for the hilt, by the XNUMXth century there were four main types (approximate translation) - swept, pappenheimer, bowl-shaped and English cavalry. Accordingly, there were combinations of these types.
      By the way, the perforated plates characteristic of the Pappenheimer's hilt are not visible in the first picture. More like a German arrow-shaped hilt.
      1. +4
        11 March 2023 12: 34
        By the way, the perforated plates characteristic of the Pappenheimer's hilt are not visible in the first picture.
        I agree with this. But on the second there is no crosshairs of the guard, which is also characteristic of the "pappenheimers"
        1. +3
          11 March 2023 12: 52
          I fully admit that some details were lost.
  6. +3
    11 March 2023 09: 12
    Good health to all.
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, I'm running away to the store, and I'll leave you to your husband. He has long missed the history of weapons.
    He is now installing sockets
    1. +3
      11 March 2023 12: 30
      Quote from lisikat2
      long misses the history of weapons.

      Soon he will have an article about pistols ...
      1. +6
        11 March 2023 12: 48
        Soon he will have an article about pistols ...

        Well, why only him? We didn't go for a walk here either. smile

        Good afternoon, Vyacheslav, beautiful article, thank you! good
    2. +3
      11 March 2023 13: 18
      That's right, Katya. It’s good to run away to the store like to the Diet. Just a coup there, please don't make it.
      1. +6
        11 March 2023 13: 30
        Just a coup there, please don't make it.


        So it depends on what they can bargain. laughing

        1. +4
          11 March 2023 13: 42
          And shampoos after the February-March holidays are unlikely to run out.
          1. +5
            11 March 2023 14: 14
            I remember in the 5th grade I quickly washed my hair with my mother's Gedair shampoo and ran to the school dances. laughing Then for three days I shied away from all my friends - the hair turned out to be a "super fashionable" malvinogo color smile
            1. +4
              11 March 2023 14: 35
              There is no limit to the curiosity of a middle school student.

              And when you stray from a proven route, there is always a place for surprises.
              1. +7
                11 March 2023 15: 19
                There is no limit to the curiosity of a middle school student.

                There is no curiosity, here EMNIP, our men's shampoo "Forest" (in the family it was the same for me, my father and brother) ended, so I grabbed the mother.
              2. +5
                11 March 2023 15: 21
                There is no limit to the curiosity of a middle school student.

                Especially at an early age. laughing
            2. +4
              11 March 2023 15: 05
              It was the same, only father's shaving foam.
            3. +7
              11 March 2023 20: 36
              Quote: Richard
              I remember in the 5th grade I quickly washed my hair with my mother's Gedair shampoo and ran to the school dances. laughing Then for three days I shied away from all my friends - the hair turned out to be a "super fashionable" malvinogo color smile

              Sorry. I Dmitry got into a similar trouble at the age of 22. I took a steam bath in a friend's bath. And to the question "where is the soap" bought - "take any shampoo on the shelf." I took it - I came to the service in purple. The pragmatic deputy for academic work, the colonel, straightened his three hairs and said three phrases - “look in the mirror, deer hat, squint home, don’t get caught in my eyes until you wash it off.”
              When I already pulled my hat over my ears, I flew through the door. He added to my back - "Laundry soap helps."
              A cool man, at the dawn of my service, I was sincerely lucky with my colleagues !! God bless those who are "in the ranks" of health!
              1. +4
                11 March 2023 22: 35
                In general, as a child, I thought that men wash their hair with soap. Grandfather and grandmother were hardened by life. However, like all their generation.
                1. +7
                  12 March 2023 07: 03
                  thought men washed their heads with soap

                  In the early 70s, in my opinion, they were already shampooing with might and main. We bought shampoo "forest". I remember it was thin, lathered badly and stinged my eyes a lot.

                  After the 5th grade, my parents sent me to live in the Caucasus to help my great-grandmother (my brother went to college). In parting, a friend-classmate gave me a "terrible shortage at that time" tube of Quack-quack shampoo, which did not sting my eyes.
                  .
                  I liked this shampoo so much that after 12 years I married it. laughing
                  PS. And the great-grandmother washed her hair in the old fashioned way with sour milk
                  1. +4
                    12 March 2023 08: 36
                    The lifestyle of the inhabitants living in a wooden house with a stove changed more slowly.

                    In the summer - just washing from a basin. Luckily, it was easy to disengage. And, accordingly, trips to the bath.

                    An apartment with running water and heating is a different way of life.

                    PS I liked the story with the shampoo.
                    In general, the traditional set of gifts for February 23 is not accidental.
                  2. +4
                    12 March 2023 09: 48
                    I always washed my hair with soap and still do. request
                    1. +3
                      12 March 2023 10: 38
                      Good morning Kostya
                      I always washed my hair with soap and still do

                      wink drinks
                      1. +5
                        12 March 2023 11: 23
                        Good morning Dima. smile
                        Well, about soap, so about soap. laughing

        2. +4
          11 March 2023 16: 39
          So it depends on what they can bargain.


          Under autumn on a striptease of trees
          watch the mushrooms come out ... (c)
  7. +3
    11 March 2023 09: 14
    at the Worcester Art Museum

    I wonder what Jeeves would say about this? laughing
  8. +5
    11 March 2023 09: 16
    bronze dagger from the Eastern Mediterranean, circa 3000–1500 B.C. BC uh

    Extremely accurate dating! laughing
  9. +4
    11 March 2023 10: 37
    1790 sword hilt by Josiah Wedgwood

    Well, the handle, of course, is beyond praise!
    What do I like about this weapon?
    Firstly, it is remote, to intercept the sword with your hand is still a pleasure. I guess no one has tried.
    Secondly, it is silent, the neighbors will not come running for a shot. Unless the pierced one screams heart-rendingly.
    1. +2
      12 March 2023 15: 17
      1790 sword hilt by Josiah Wedgwood

      Hilts Josiah Wedgwood never made. He is a ceramist. This hilt was made by jeweler Matthew Bolton. In his work, he used blue and white Wedgwood jasper cameos, the mounting for which he himself designed, and faceted steel, from which Bolton specialized in jewelry. Bolton and Wedgwood were friends.
  10. +13
    11 March 2023 10: 43

    Hmm, opachki ... in my collection there is a broadsword for this suit wink

    Hello everyone and have a great weekend!
    1. +7
      11 March 2023 11: 45
      My collection has...

      Oh, how! ...
      It turns out that we also have people who have their own collections of weapons, and even decorated in accordance with all the rules of the museum storage of an artifact - bravo! hi
      1. +8
        11 March 2023 12: 28
        Lyudmila Yakovlevna hi Our fellow citizens still do not have such wink We constantly fight off all kinds of adversaries, storming their capitals ... well, trophies are a sacred thing! Keeping edged weapons is not so difficult with us, the main thing is to get a conclusion that the item is of historical value. Twice I gave it to our museum for exhibitions, the guys (art historians) helped with the maintenance of the blades.
        My “sabers” were inherited to me, so I keep them in order to pass them on to my Son.
        1. +7
          11 March 2023 12: 51
          Hi Aleksey! smile
          Our fellow citizens still do not have such

          It's scary even to think what just because of the "ribbon" they have not dragged since the fourteenth year. belay
          1. +5
            11 March 2023 13: 10
            Quote: Sea Cat

            It's scary even to think what just because of the "ribbon" they have not dragged since the fourteenth year. belay

            Greetings Konstantin soldier
            Considering that quite recently a painting by Caravaggio was almost taken out of the garage belay very close to Me, that is, a lot of everything!
            The son, in addition to hand-to-hand combat, began to fence (saber), twice a week so far, he rides (homeless child) crying thank you grandma love with such parents.
            He arranged a show of blades for the Children, pants full of delight!
        2. +4
          11 March 2023 13: 00
          It is pleasant to read this, it pleases - culture appears in a new light - fireflies flashing here and there, merging into a historical background, albeit still dim, but significant. Shine! hi
    2. +9
      11 March 2023 15: 15
      That's it, damn it! One has a French broadsword, the other has a falchion, the third has acquired a replica of the "Caroling" ... I alone, like a fool with four screwdrivers and three punchers! (((
      Greetings, Alex!
      1. +8
        11 March 2023 15: 48
        I strongly suspect that screwdrivers and hammer drills are bigger breadwinners than replicas and artifacts.

        And try to create your own Hermitage.
        1. +6
          11 March 2023 15: 54
          As Umka's mother said: they don't eat the Christmas tree, they admire it!
          1. +5
            11 March 2023 16: 30
            But where is this tree in April?

            And you can always find something to admire.

            For example, the

            And I admire you alone
            And you don't know yourself
            That beauty will overshadow any
            Beauty queen.
            1. +7
              11 March 2023 17: 28
              In Russia, men are so harsh that the New Year tree is taken out for the May holidays, and the "George" ribbon from the towbar of a personal car is cut off when the "rubber" is changed.
              1. +4
                11 March 2023 17: 55
                They weren't taken care of properly.

                Since the end of February, even music has been connected to influence:

                Twelve months in a row, Seryoga is being sawed by his wife,
                I would have killed a long time ago, but thanks, not armed.
                Same question, same answer:
                "Sergey, did you take out the Christmas tree?" - "Damn... No!"
                She does not smell and does not please for six months already,
                She stands in the place of the TV, and he is in the garage,
                There are needles all over the apartment, the cat crap with tinsel ...
                "Well, take out the Christmas tree, my God!"

                Seryoga, take out the Christmas tree! (Take it out, yo!)
                Seryoga, take out the Christmas tree! (Firs, take her out!)
                Seryoga, take out the Christmas tree! (Throw away your tree!)
                Seryoga, take it out!

                She stood and interfered since January,
                Until it flared up in July, a blue flame of grief.
                The tree is blazing in the corner, it smokes all over the apartment,
                And only the children were happy: "The Christmas tree is on fire!"
                When firefighters rushed to help him,
                The family rushed around the apartment, choking in smoke,
                The neighbors cursed loudly from all floors:
                "Serge, take out the Christmas tree already!"

                And in December, Seregina's friends came to celebrate
                The wife, looking out the window, decided not to open it.
                They stand in the yard and breathe steam into their fists,
                A silent question froze in his eyes: "What's wrong somehow?"
                They have champagne, firecrackers and vinaigrette in their pockets,
                And everything seems to be fine, but there is no holiday.
                And on the clock - five minutes to, it's almost a new year ...
                "Serge! And take out the Christmas tree! Here ..."
      2. +5
        11 March 2023 16: 01
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        with four screwdrivers

        And I have only one and the one with one battery ... wassat
        1. +5
          11 March 2023 16: 13
          I'll give you the next birthday with two.
      3. +6
        11 March 2023 16: 53
        Hello Anton soldier not the worst option (the tools of production according to Marx are in your hands). Ten screwdrivers is almost a Saber! wink if you count the perforators, also the pestle!
        I can’t do anything but shoot, so I’ll have to work for you recourse
        I have a hard time recovering from a contusion, if I'm stupid somewhere, I'm sorry.
        1. +4
          11 March 2023 17: 39
          (the tools of production according to Marx are in your hands)
          Hi Aleksey! If according to Marx, I would have been a billionaire a long time ago. Grandpa was wrong! Oh, how wrong!
  11. +7
    11 March 2023 11: 44
    Armor from Sudan - there the knightly weapons of the riders lingered until 1898!

    This is because Sudan became "hot" only in modern and modern times, in other historical periods it was much calmer there, which contributed to stagnation in the weapons business.
    The Christian state of Mucurra, founded in the VI century AD. e., for example, due to a rather calm geopolitical situation, it existed for almost 900 years, until the Egyptian Mamluks captured it in the XIV century - much longer than its counterparts in the form of European barbarian kingdoms; differed from the latter, by the way, in the high hygiene of the population.
    It is difficult for us now to even imagine what it is like to live in a mega-stable state that has existed for a millennium, although business would greatly appreciate such stability.
    1. +7
      11 March 2023 12: 34
      Quote: ycuce234-san
      what is it like to live in a mega-stable state that has existed for a millennium, although business would appreciate such stability very much.

      What about ancient Egypt? Three thousand years, at least three kingdoms, three interregnums, conquests by the Hyksos, Assyrians, Persians, Greeks. And in principle, nothing has changed. The same Nile, the same shaduf, the same gods! And you will not go anywhere from boredom, because only here you will be buried properly!
      1. +3
        11 March 2023 13: 57
        Quote: kalibr
        And you will not go anywhere from boredom, because only here you will be buried properly!


        But the VAZ-2101 does not lose its relevance there until death - you can immediately draw up a sales plan for 900 years in advance. Yes, and business is taken on megaprojects, like pyramids.
  12. +10
    11 March 2023 12: 37
    Personally, I am more interested in the fate of the weapons museum of the Higher Officer Courses "Shot" named after B.M. Shaposhnikov. I saw that collection of weapons with my own eyes. Thousands of copies ranging from a boomerang, knightly armor, weapons of the Battle of Poltava, Borodino, to the most modern and rare: the golden AK from Saddam Hussein, weapons from Fidel Castro, the first revolvers from the war of the North and South, weapons from the time of the war with the Indians, Fedorov assault rifles, Finnish Suomi and other thousands of copies. Where is it now? Through the efforts of the furniture maker and So, everything was looted.
    1. +6
      11 March 2023 14: 11
      Where is it now? Through the efforts of the furniture maker and So, everything was looted.
      But the initiative on the ground, they did without Marshal Taburetkin. In the Orenburg Museum of Local Lore, the tools of the early XNUMXth century disappeared, which stood in pairs in front of the entrance. And the section, in fact, of the entire twentieth century, disappeared from the exposition - neither the Revolution, nor the Civil, nor the Patriotic War. There is nothing even about Gagarin.
    2. +4
      11 March 2023 14: 38
      Where is it now? Through the efforts of the furniture maker and So, everything was looted.

      Is what you say really true? I can't believe!
      And if true, then... am
      First time using this emoji. Who are all these people?
      Okay, I'm quiet.
      But it boils. And black thoughts ferment thickly.
      1. +5
        11 March 2023 20: 00
        Absolute truth. The museum was located in the Main Academic Building. Taking into account that during the Soviet era officers were trained there not only from the Warsaw Pact countries, but also from other “close ones” for ideological and political reasons (Lebanon, Egypt, Algeria, etc., etc.), the exposition was presented in several (more than a dozen) halls, divided by historical stages. Before that, everything was collected in the storerooms, and only a part was exhibited in the barracks 36, if I'm not mistaken. And the foreman Mudrakov was in charge of this small exposition. Thanks to him, I, the kid, was allowed to pick up both hard drives, and a six-barreled revolver, and Suomi, well, and much more, including the Fedorov assault rifle. Then, much later, I had a chance to visit the Main Academic Building and admire the entire luxurious exposition.
        1. +1
          13 March 2023 13: 51
          Quote: hiller
          . The museum was located in the Main Academic Building

          When I was at TM, they were constantly "grazing" there for illustrations for the magazine. Somehow he caused a panic there, a certain colonel assured the cadets that the M-203 was removed from the rifle only at the factory. He took it off with a screwdriver that was in his pocket. Astonishment. The raid of officers, again installation and removal ... in general, I was surprised. The caretaker also had a reloading handle with MG42 instead of a hammer. I gave him a hammer, and the handle was put in place.
  13. +4
    11 March 2023 12: 46
    Guys, you should only see the "wiring": wires of different sections, from 0,5 to 3, the worst insulation, I have not yet seen.
    Any fool from the 8th grade will do it more carefully. Everything was glued on!
    I can’t imagine from what place, their hands stick out.
    On good terms, everything can be done in 2 days, but tomorrow afternoon I have to go to Adler, and then Ulyanovsk.
    I will do it tonight!
  14. +2
    11 March 2023 12: 53
    Vyacheslav, pictures "test *.
    Impressed, armor with a mustache.
    Cool pictures, but when, again, will you return to small arms?
    1. +6
      11 March 2023 14: 01
      Cool pictures, but when, again, will you return to small arms?

      And let's try to combine the "armor" topic of the article and small arms. For starters, I propose to go from the end and discuss the "armor" of the Australian bandit Ned Kelly.
      a photo Ned Kelly's armor from the collection of the State Library of Victoria.



      The local press wrote:
      The armor was forged from plow blades. It consisted of two aprons that protected the hull on both sides, a pair of shoulder pads, and a bucket-shaped helmet with a single viewing slit. Overall, the armor weighed 41,4 kilograms (97 pounds) and was about six millimeters (a quarter of an inch) thick. Similar armor was made for three more members of the gang.

      "His head, chest and sides were protected by heavy quarter-inch iron plates. Many shots hit him, but he always came to his senses and, slapping his chest, laughed merrily, calmly answering their fire. It seemed that he was a demon" . Not a single bullet penetrated the armor, although many bullet marks were later found on it: five on the helmet, three on the breastplate, nine on the back of the head, and one on the shoulder pad.

      "Ned Kelly attacks the police" drawing from The Age, November 14, 1880.
      1. +8
        11 March 2023 14: 30
        Dmitriy hi , for "soft" revolver - rifle (revolver) bullets and gunshot, an insurmountable barrier. In the legs - you need to beat the hands. Although, according to the recollections, he also suffered from a hydrodynamic shock, considering the calibers. There, as far as I remember, one "bandyuk" also used a shield.
      2. +7
        11 March 2023 14: 43
        So that's where Sergio Leone got his inspiration for the episode in A Fistful of Dollars!
        Greetings, Dmitry!
      3. +4
        11 March 2023 14: 45
        . Ned Kelly's armor from the collection of the State Library of Victoria.

        Where is the other leg?
        Or was he one-legged?
        1. +6
          11 March 2023 14: 58
          Or was he one-legged?
          "That's all that's left of poor Snoppy!" (FROM)
          1. +7
            11 March 2023 15: 26
            I watched a movie about the First World War. It's about how the Italians fought. And they brought armor similar to those that Kelly had - impenetrable type and all that. We found volunteers who agreed to put them on to go on the attack for buns in the form of a vacation later, etc. Well, let's go .... On the attack. They just went, because it was impossible to run into them, and if you fell, then you couldn’t get up. The Austrians were at first dumbfounded by their appearance, and then they began to shoot. The one who fell under the impact of bullets, like inverted crabs, floundered and finished them off. Well, the rest were also killed .. So no one went on vacation .... sad
          2. +6
            11 March 2023 15: 42
            And how do you like the bulletproof three-quarter (they have no protection for the shins and feet) combat armor of Cardinal Richelieu. The one who is Jean Armand du Plessis, weighing almost 48 kg. from the Army Museum in Paris



            The armor was made in France (as indicated by the characteristic details of the design of French armor in the first third of the 1630th century) around XNUMX. It goes without saying that for the almost omnipotent first minister of the richest state in Europe, the decorative finish of the armor is made at the highest level in a combination of blackened steel, corrugated, etched and gilded wide stripes. French crown (Fleur de lys).
            Also on the armor are the initials of the Duke of Richelieu himself: the letter "R" associated with two "A" inverted. maximum depth (on the hull). Thickness data is not given in the reference books, but judging by the exceptional mass, the cuirass and helmet should be about 1610-1860 mm thick - a minimum. Probably more. This armor was clearly made to be bulletproof. It is believed that it was in them that Cardinal Richelieu commanded the famous siege of La Rochelle.
            Henri-Paul Mott. "Cardinal Richelieu at the siege of La Rochelle"
            1. +4
              11 March 2023 15: 49
              And a helmet with such a characteristic "cardinal" squint on the right eye socket!)))
              1. +4
                11 March 2023 16: 07
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                with such a characteristic "cardinal" squint on the right eye socket!

                I, they say, see through you heretics ... laughing
            2. +3
              11 March 2023 16: 06
              Quote: Richard
              these armors were clearly made as bulletproof. It is believed that it was in them that Cardinal Richelieu commanded the famous siege of La Rochelle.

              What a beauty! There are perfect things!
              In the Hermitage, there seems to be also three-quarter armor for an uncle about 2 meters tall and weighing about 50 kg. Or not in the Hermitage? drinks
              1. +5
                11 March 2023 16: 18
                And here's what I'm curious about - judging by the sources, Richelieu was, to put it mildly, far from a heroic physique, and here was half a centner armor. Did in those days gunsmiths already mastered the methods of rational distribution of the load on the body?
                1. +5
                  11 March 2023 16: 45
                  Did in those days gunsmiths already mastered the methods of rational distribution of the load on the body?

                  Or maybe they had anti-gravity.
                  How many secrets are lost!
                  1. +4
                    11 March 2023 17: 07

                    Or maybe they had anti-gravity.
                    How many secrets are lost!

                    Yeah, and a Midas field synthesizer. Again rushed conspiracy theories from Lyudmila Yakovlevna.
                    1. +5
                      11 March 2023 18: 18
                      . Again rushed conspiracy theories from Lyudmila Yakovlevna.

                      Anton, it was an attempt to cheer you up, but you turned gloomy.
                      Well, I'm not a psychologist! wassat )))
                      1. +4
                        11 March 2023 18: 26
                        - Thrush, oh thrush, did you feed me?

                        - I fed!

                        - Did you get me drunk?

                        - Got drunk!

                        “Now make me laugh, otherwise I’ll cut a tree with my tail, I’ll eat you, thrush, and eat your children!”
                      2. +3
                        11 March 2023 21: 08
                        Cheer up the jester? Lyudmila Yakovlevna, better, as a mathematician, solve one of Hilbert's problems (about a dozen left, right?) and I will be immensely proud of the correspondence with you!
                      3. +2
                        11 March 2023 21: 32
                        Cheer up the jester?


                        They say there is a way... Yes

                      4. +3
                        11 March 2023 21: 46
                        What could be a better death for a jester than a public execution? The last reason to joke!
            3. +4
              11 March 2023 16: 27
              almost omnipotent first minister of the richest state
              Yes, he himself was far from being poor, the duke after all.
        2. +6
          11 March 2023 16: 21
          Where is the second leg?
          Or was he one-legged?

          "one of her legs was shorter
          the other was wooden
          One eye was boarded up with plywood ....
          and so on "(c) smile
          1. +5
            11 March 2023 16: 36
            and so on"
            "In a woman, the main thing is her eyes,
            If anyone is against, then I'm only for "(C)
        3. +3
          11 March 2023 23: 01
          . Ned Kelly's armor from the collection of the State Library of Victoria.

          Where is the other leg?


          Killed in battle. laughing
      4. +5
        11 March 2023 17: 22
        Your own safety first! laughing

      5. +7
        11 March 2023 17: 48
        Our Tolstopyatov brothers also hunted collectors not bare-assed, they were talented guys, albeit bandits.
        1. +4
          11 March 2023 18: 41
          Junior Tolstopyatov is a really brilliant gunsmith!
          1. +2
            11 March 2023 20: 33
            Gorshkov in court:
            "-- I told Slava Tolstopyatov, they are shooting at us, they can kill us!
            Don't be afraid, Slava Tolstopyatov told me, I'll make you a body armor. And did..."

            And their barrels were really good, but I was more struck by home-made cartridges, it had to be made from bearing balls and a tube of cartridges for an assault rifle ... And it worked!
    2. +5
      11 March 2023 15: 11
      Quote from lisikat2
      but when

      Through one article.
  15. +2
    11 March 2023 16: 20
    Skirts!
    She also drew attention to the skirts. Right on the iron. Not under the iron in front, but visible from behind and, it is clear what they are intended for, but on top of the entire suit. Red and green. Short, beautifully dressed, almost lace.
    I thought... What is the utilitarian goal?
    Hmmm ...
    1. +4
      11 March 2023 16: 48
      What is the utilitarian purpose?
      Yes, everything is the same as in boxing: a fighter in blue shorts knocks out an athlete in blue.
      Or in westerns: guys in white hats are good guys, those in black hats are bad.
    2. +4
      11 March 2023 16: 51
      And I also drew attention to the skirts ... Short ones, beautifully dressed, almost lace
      I thought ... What is the utilitarian goal?

      By analogy with modern "lace shorts" I would venture to put forward a hypothesis - Maybe they aspired to the EU? recourse smile
  16. +3
    11 March 2023 16: 28
    Regarding the Sudanese chain mail of the late 19th century. Where they fought mainly with melee weapons, the presence of protection was absolutely natural. The disappearance of such in the European armies looks more than strange. In the cavalry, for sure - there, back in the First World War, edged weapons were the main ones. Then the cavalry itself (in its classic form) ceased to be relevant.
  17. +3
    11 March 2023 16: 48
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, colleagues, good afternoon.
    I am a materialist. My religiosity ended at the Easter cake (eat it), but how the boys went to war. I found solace in the church. I don’t know how to pray, but like a little one I look at icons.
    Today is Memorial Saturday.
    I remembered: my mother, mother-in-law named sister
    An invalid stood in the church, from the front, when the priest commemorated the dead. He started crying.
    You should have seen the reaction of others.
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, I found a "job" for you: which of the earlier Christian martyrs was popular with the knights?
    Among them, there were many fanatics
    1. +4
      11 March 2023 17: 15
      which of the earlier Christian martyrs was popular with the knights?
      Saint George, Saint Sebastian, Saint Andrew, and of course the archangels.
      Hello Vera!
      1. +6
        11 March 2023 17: 33
        Anton hi
        Quite surprised. Why wasn't this guy mentioned? Afraid that Vera is a racist? belay :

        Faith especially for you, Anton as a connoisseur of the Middle Ages, this character is perfectly familiar to the ear - this is Saint Mauritius - in the Middle Ages the heavenly patron of chivalry, all chivalric orders without exception, many European royal dynasties and the emperors of the Holy Roman Empire themselves
        1. +6
          11 March 2023 17: 45
          According to the medieval church custom, the martyrs were depicted together with the instruments of their suffering - therefore, a sword is always present in all images of Saint Mauritius. but his sword has a separate amazing fate, clearly showing how powerful the worship of this saint was.
          the sword of St. Mauritius - for hundreds of years was used for the coronation of the emperors of the Holy Roman Empire, and then - and Austria - Hungary - until 1916. during a sacred ceremony, it was handed over to the emperor, along with the scepter and orb.
          a photo. Sword of St. Mauritius and the scabbard in the treasury of the Hofburg Castle

          strictly speaking, there are currently two known swords of St. Mauritius.
          one (the coronation one, with the cry of the third Crusade engraved on its crosshairs - Christ conquers, Christ reigns, Christ rules), is stored in the imperial treasury in Vienna.
          the second (obviously - combat) - in the Royal Arsenal of Turin.
          1. 0
            16 March 2023 21: 26
            Quote: Richard
            According to medieval church custom, the martyrs were depicted together with the instruments of their suffering.

            And with what were the martyrs who died of diarrhea (cholera) depicted?
        2. +4
          11 March 2023 18: 10
          I completely reject zombie technology. Moreover, the Middle Ages, and then they really owned neurolinguistics.
          1. +4
            11 March 2023 18: 21
            I completely reject zombie technology

            I also prefer to stay away from them. drinks
            1. +5
              12 March 2023 06: 30
              Quote: Richard
              I also prefer to stay away from them.

              Similarly. And I also don’t like the crowd. Where the crowd is there and there is room for the use of all kinds of * technologies *.
              1. +5
                12 March 2023 07: 11
                When you are "one of" it's harder to think. Who pays attention to the nature of the pawns. Each one just does its job.
                1. +5
                  12 March 2023 11: 17
                  You won’t get out into queens here, and in general there is no way out. request
              2. +3
                12 March 2023 09: 54
                Just in case, I decided to check if there is anyone - there is!
                And my enthusiasm has already disappeared, the fluidity of life seizes impulses. And about the crowd - the truth.
              3. +4
                12 March 2023 11: 19
                I also don't like crowds.

                Me too. Where there is a crowd, there are always problems.
                1. +1
                  12 March 2023 14: 52
                  And you will not see how someone climbed into his pocket.
                  The receipt, they say, took, he will not leave.
          2. +4
            11 March 2023 18: 28
            Very interesting. Was the word strong? Or were there just few words, and they were listened to?
            1. +4
              11 March 2023 19: 31
              Was the word strong?

              I guess this too. But, rather, rituality, which has become a custom. So since childhood. We have lost rituality as a way of realizing religiosity.
              Remained bureaucratic rituals in everyday work. These, I believe, are immortal.
            2. +3
              11 March 2023 21: 18
              Seryozha, it's not what they say that matters, it's how they say it. Well, should I tell you?
              1. +4
                11 March 2023 22: 26
                So you believe in the talent of Aramis from our musical film?

                Anyone can be convinced. Especially when it's new. Our 90th proof of this.

                And critical thinking is a good option.
                1. +2
                  11 March 2023 22: 46
                  I think some people come on your tours because you say so.
                  1. +3
                    11 March 2023 23: 09
                    Here it also depends on the place. And in these two places there is something to show. Come in, just in case.
                2. +3
                  11 March 2023 23: 03
                  The need for a certain number of critically thinking individuals takes on a stable character and is fixed when it benefits society. If not, then a useful critic is perceived as a malicious critic and dragged to the chopping block. Because it's annoying.
                  1. +5
                    11 March 2023 23: 53
                    “Benefit to society” is a conditional concept. Society is heterogeneous. And in it according to Mayakovsky:

                    "To one - a bagel,
                    To another - a hole from a donut "(c).
                    1. +6
                      12 March 2023 09: 56
                      The classics played it up more than once:
                      "SOMEONE LOVES A WATERMELOON, SOMEONE LOVES A PORK CARTILAGE!! (c)
                      But you can eat both. drinks wink
                      1. +4
                        12 March 2023 10: 01
                        Snack - as a means of equalization. Like a colt.
                      2. +5
                        12 March 2023 11: 10
                        Well said! I'll try to remember. smile

                      3. +5
                        12 March 2023 11: 31
                        - For a good snack, Savel Prokofievich, it’s not a sin to drink, it’s not a sin to have a snack
                        - Excuse me, Marfa Ignatievna, is this an appetizer? We are not French tea, but merchants of the first guild. Better order the Astrakhan herring and pickles with horseradish to serve (c)
                      4. +4
                        12 March 2023 11: 57
                        On this day, God sent Alexander Yakovlevich for lunch a bottle of bison, homemade mushrooms, herring mincemeat, Ukrainian borscht with 1st grade meat, chicken with rice and dried apple compote.
                      5. +4
                        12 March 2023 12: 04
                      6. +4
                        12 March 2023 12: 08
                        But what are we? And we are no worse than many -
                        We can drink a lot too
                        And numerous yogis roam -
                        They are, however, very difficult to recognize.
                      7. +4
                        12 March 2023 13: 09
                        Wine has virtues, they say, healing
                        I decided to try it - I took the bottle, opened it ...
                        Suddenly something obscene got out:
                        Maybe a green serpent, or maybe a crocodile!


                      8. +5
                        12 March 2023 14: 02
                        In Turkey, back in the middle of the 20th century, people were on duty near cafes and restaurants who, for money, carried violent drunks to those houses in baskets, putting the baskets on their backs. Taxi drivers refused violent customers!
                      9. +5
                        12 March 2023 16: 19
                        I myself am a Vyatka native,
                        I saw a lot of bitter
                        I traveled all over Russia, with Alyoha,
                        I have even been to Turkey.

                        There are many people in Turkey
                        There are many Turks, no Russians,
                        And I will tell you in honor, with Alyoha,
                        I lived like Mohammed.

                        Many Turks crippled,
                        On the roads, my God
                        Three hundred wallets a day, with Alyoha,
                        He took it out with one hand.

                        The Turks thought and wondered
                        But guess, apparently, could not,
                        Gathered with all the shalman, with Alyoha,
                        They went to the shah with a complaint.

                        The Shah gave them good advice:
                        To keep wallets intact
                        Lock your pockets, eh, Turks
                        Yes, padlocks.

                        But even here I did not miss,
                        Didn't miss anywhere
                        I got a big chisel, with Alyokha,
                        He knocked down the locks with a chisel.

                        I myself am a Vyatka native,
                        I saw a lot of bitter
                        I traveled all over Russia, with Alyoha,
                        I have even been to Turkey.


                        For some reason, they write everywhere that this is Vysotsky's song, but this is not true, this is Okudzhava's song, I heard it back in 1961, when no one had even heard of Vysotsky.
                      10. +2
                        12 March 2023 19: 02
                        Kostya hi
                        Here is the memory. good Already dipped into evening guitar gatherings from childhood. As if half a century had not passed. Deserved plus
                        PS. look at mail
                      11. +2
                        12 March 2023 19: 49
                        PS. look at mail

                        So not Okudzhava, but Arkady Severny, smile At the age of fifteen I didn't even know that name. But, it doesn't matter, the memory of our childhood is important, you're right. drinks
                      12. +3
                        12 March 2023 18: 03
                        Nightingale the robber chief
                        He gave them a wild feast,
                        And from them was a three-headed serpent
                        And his servant is a vampire.
                        They drank potion in turtles, ate bulniki, Danced on coffins, blasphemers. Scary, creepy!
                      13. +3
                        12 March 2023 19: 12
                        And I disliked Vysotsky. For the image of a convict. If it was real it would be another matter. I feel uncomfortable in the presence of any person who tries to appear not as he is, but as someone else.
                        And yet I didn’t fall in love with the Beatles for the rare depressive melodies. I was an optimist back then. Tried to listen now - any requiem is more inspiring.
                        Kostya's caricatures are amusing.
                        Some statements. I love smart people.
                      14. +4
                        12 March 2023 19: 58
                        Yes, he didn’t imitate a convict, this is just the specificity of the Moscow courtyards of that time - “if you don’t sit down, you’ll sit down,” but he grew up there. I also found meetings of thieves in the passage courtyard near my house, and yet Vysotsky is almost ten years older than me.
                        And I didn’t like the Beatles either, just like the Rollings.
                      15. +3
                        12 March 2023 20: 01
                        Rarely do I like something that is not sung in Russian. And the Beatles and the Rolling Stones were not hooked.
                      16. +3
                        12 March 2023 20: 24
                        As a student, I was familiar with the Muscovite guys, quite an intelligent audience that grew up in the "passage yards".
                        It can be seen that it will fall on someone's soul ...

                        "And somewhere everything
                        They suddenly got dressed.
                        I got into some
                        Not that kind of circle.
                        I'm thirsty,
                        I want to eat,
                        I just want
                        Sit somewhere.
                        There is time, but no money,
                        And there is nowhere to visit."

                        As you understand, Choi.
                      17. +5
                        12 March 2023 21: 00
                        Tsoi was just for me, too many show-offs, mannerisms, a guitar, like an automatic machine, at the ready - "we are waiting for changes" - well, wait ... As I remember this company of hairy-hairy drug addicts-fans at the "Tsoi wall" on the Arbat, so I want to take the machine myself in Rooney, a newly-minted hippie, trash.
                      18. +4
                        12 March 2023 19: 58
                        Better play your part. Only in this way it turns out that a person has not so few roles.

                        And somehow importunately Brecht knocks on the head: "A kind man from Sichuan."
                      19. +3
                        12 March 2023 20: 32
                        And I remember the downtrodden Chinese janitor, Wang, with his head forever drawn into his shoulders. From "City of the Doomed".
                        The staunch Komsomol member Andrey Voronin fought desperately for Wang's well-being, but ended up fighting for his own well-being as a high-ranking bureaucrat. His mind has changed.
                        And Van, who he was, remained the same. Yourself. The strongest position in life.
                      20. +3
                        12 March 2023 20: 45
                        Suddenly, the Chinese motif came to light. Let's add italian-domestic:

                        Where do we go from our roles -
                        Villains, courtiers, kings.
                        Not only the author and not only in a fairy tale -
                        Sometimes life gives us masks.
                        Where do you go from this mask,
                        When the villain's role is learned
                        Tartaglia in a mask - a man without a heart.
                        - So beware of Deramo, so beware of Deramo -
                        My king.
                      21. +3
                        12 March 2023 21: 10
                        And here I thought about the properties of the inner core of a person.
                        Die-hard.
                        And then, in the words of Polyakov,

                        "Another optimist
                        yesterday got out of the loop ... "

                        Thought about myself. Flexible, but not overbearing. Some flexibility allowed me to crawl out of the trouble of the 90s and now proudly declare:

                        "Don't bring us to our knees!
                        Lie down, as before, we will!"

                        Which led to a lifestyle that is subject only to the law of the refrigerator:

                        "Put fresh aside -
                        take a rotten one closer."

                        But there is a level of flexibility that changes consciousness, like the hero of "Grad". Which is tantamount to a complete lack of a core, but contributes to social success in the now generally accepted understanding. There was a clerk, but there was a boss. He was nobody, but he became everything.
                        But History, I repeat, is a mockery. One-two, and at the beginning of the test circle with a complete inversion of the achieved position.
                        And only the Chinese Wang is unchanged.
                        "And dreaming..."
                      22. +1
                        12 March 2023 22: 37
                        It's one thing - a born rod. Another implementation.
                        I'll give a long song, otherwise you won't throw out the words

                        There is a city of Peter on the planet. It is divided into islands.
                        If there were more letters in the alphabet, I would add words from them.
                        I would glue the opus and even unfold the whole epic.
                        Luckily, I recently found inspiration in the Hermitage.

                        It suddenly occurred to me in bad weather to go to the Hermitage.
                        I took it and went. And on the wall hangs a character
                        hardly noticeable to the eye bright between the masks.
                        But among others, I immediately distinguished him.

                        His cheeks and forehead are purple, he is full of strength and fire.
                        In the circus, he could bend horseshoes and turn purple, horseshoes rot.
                        He could become a sensible dignitary. It would be important to look in the saddle.
                        He would have been a colonel in the infantry and a gunner on a ship.

                        He could do everything in the world, what a size!
                        It’s bad that he sits in the portrait and is silent.
                        For a hero without a gesture resembles who knows what.
                        My story is out of place. Well, I'll go and eat.

                        Unique and the same, the city is noisy, the Neva flows.
                        It's a pity there are few characters in the alphabet, I would add words from them.
                        I would put everything on the shelves, distribute the tinsel.
                        But I can’t pick up a character (howl even a wolf) in any way.

                        Time flies. Paper is patient. Who is guilty?
                        In St. Petersburg, noise and moisture. Hermitage in great demand.
                        In the hall, having become a familiar background, the canvas flaunts.
                        And the character on it is brave, careless and fat.

                        Yellow leaves are falling from poplars, oaks and beeches.
                        There are no necessary letters in the alphabet to put words out of them.
                        There is no way to get a sense out of my character.
                        All because he was only a loafer and nothing more.

                        Yes, he didn’t do anything, I found out.
                        He drank and ate all his life, he sang and danced.
                        But on a beautiful canvas it surfaced from non-existence.
                        Though he was an idle reveler, like Mozart and I.

                        Feathers down, bring wine glasses, fruits and music here!
                        Let's mess around, monchers, let's be lazy, gentlemen!
                        But, despite our laziness, for many centuries, let them
                        descendants appreciate our value and keep it with a sinking breath.

                        Organizing flocks, let everywhere more than once
                        our great-grandchildren quote us by heart.
                        And over the river Neva masses of the people crowd
                        let him exalt us with his head above the pillar.
                      23. +3
                        12 March 2023 21: 17
                        Who is Tartaglia in this fairy tale?
                        He is a villain, a scoundrel and a scoundrel,
                        How this one was born in Italy,
                        Not a fool, but a scoundrel and so on...

                        I'm offended that the name Tartaglia,
                        Became a household name in Italy
                        Since kanalya, it means Tartaglia,
                        Cry, Tartaglia, weep.

                        But not me, but the mask - Tartaglia,
                        I'm good, and the mask is a canal,
                        This mask is my anomaly
                        Human feelings and so on...
                      24. +3
                        12 March 2023 21: 14
                        And out of the whole company there, I liked more people like Donald Cooper, and Fritz Geiger, in general, is not bad, by the way, he and Voronin have two boots - a pair. Luxurious book.
                      25. +3
                        12 March 2023 20: 57
                        And somehow importunately Brecht knocks on the head: "A kind man from Sichuan."

                        Sergey, my respect hi
                        Eco, what a beautiful base you have brought under the characteristics of those idols, it became enviable. I'm not as educated as you, but I seem to understand your idea - "a bad-good person", like Chekhov's in "Duel". Right?
                      26. +2
                        12 March 2023 22: 49
                        Good evening, Dima!

                        You know, I have big gaps with Chekhov's work. Didn't read that much. And looked a little. Lately I've been starting. Yesterday I started watching "Unfinished Piece for Mechanical Piano". And it's a good movie.

                        And the idea is probably such that in different situations you can use a good side, but you can not really.

                        As for education: here everyone has something to learn. For which the forum and appreciate, including.
                      27. +3
                        12 March 2023 21: 04
                        I saw on "Taganka" with Vysotsky in the role of the Pilot, only the play was called "The Good Man from SeZyuan". I liked it, unlike theirs "Hamlet".
                      28. +2
                        12 March 2023 22: 52
                        I have only been to this theater once. It was not even a performance - cutting roles.

                        And Brecht has serious plays. One "Mother Courage" is worth something.
  18. +4
    11 March 2023 17: 35
    Beautiful building. Gorgeous exposition. Inherited from a wealthy collector for free, with a surcharge. The richest, most prosperous and, in general, the most-most state in everything did not have money for its maintenance.
  19. +2
    12 March 2023 15: 43
    It would be interesting to see such armor after the battle with traces of the battle.
  20. +1
    12 March 2023 20: 12
    Very interesting and beautiful. That would be all to see in reality, without any "Look to the left .."
    1. +3
      12 March 2023 21: 10
      The same Shpakovsky a couple of years ago had an interesting, well-illustrated article about museum armor pierced in battles.
      No less interesting are the comments below it. Look at the search.
  21. 0
    19 March 2023 12: 23
    It began to beat decided not to go to VO anymore, and here is such an article !! Thanks to the author! wink

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