An American newspaper told about the development by the Ukrainian military at training grounds in Germany of two options for a counteroffensive

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An American newspaper told about the development by the Ukrainian military at training grounds in Germany of two options for a counteroffensive

The American edition of The New York Times published material that once again speaks of the strangeness of the approach to preparing operations by the enemy. In the material, the author scrupulously talks about the details of the preparation of the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Recall that not so long ago, on Voennoye Obozreniye, with reference to the “Reverse side of the military commissar” channel, an article was published stating that Ukrainian announcements of a counteroffensive in certain sectors of the front did not end up as disinformation: “Richard Sorge and the Cambridge fives are not needed - The enemy himself tells in detail about where and when he will approximately attack. As an example, the announcements and subsequent attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv and Kherson directions were cited.



And now, in the NYT publication, an article was published, which tells about the development of two options for a counteroffensive by military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at training grounds in Germany. We are talking about the territory of American military bases, where several thousand mobilized Ukrainian military personnel are trained.

The first option is a counter-offensive in the northeast and east - in the direction of Lugansk and Donetsk. Obviously, with an attempt to break through the defense line of the RF Armed Forces in the Svatovo-Kremennaya sector.

Option two - a strike in the Zaporozhye region with the aim of cutting the land corridor of Russia to the Crimean peninsula.

The revelations of Western journalists from a military point of view may seem like an attempt to promote disinformation. But, as already noted, usually the enemy himself announces the directions of his intended attacks, and it is in these directions that attacking actions are taken.

And again, I would like to hope that our command managed to study such information trends on the part of the enemy with the adoption of appropriate measures.
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    1. +3
      4 March 2023 07: 39
      Did you manage to read the information? These plans are so obvious that even the announcements look like information after the fact. Everything else is primarily in the hands of the Russian Defense Ministry and General Staff
      1. 0
        4 March 2023 09: 28
        Well, we have already seen how our Ministry of Defense and the General Staff manages information using the example of Kherson and the Kharkov region - that is, terribly bad. Or, more likely, they were asked to do so from above. For this is not a domestic war, as the state media are trying to shove it into us, but a war of capital and business interests.
        Abramovich agreed - the Nazis were released without trial or investigation, his assets were unfrozen. They thought there from above - they left Kherson and the Kharkov region. And now we are again breaking their multi-level defense almost head-on. Where are the cutting blows? Where are the offensives with cutting off the grouping from supplies?
        It looks like our quick victory is unprofitable to our very top, there is no other explanation
        1. 0
          4 March 2023 21: 52
          Well, we have already seen how our Ministry of Defense and the General Staff manages information using the example of Kherson and the Kharkov region - that is, terribly bad.

          You are absolutely right! Moreover, in pursuit of medals and ranks, our Adidas destroy our most combat-ready infantry and equipment, especially near Ugledar and in Maryinka, and what will happen if the Armed Forces of Ukraine accumulate significant forces and modern Western armored vehicles and hit our weakened units near Vgledar on Volnovakha and further on Mariupol? And if, simultaneously with the strike on Mariupol, they strike at Melitopol, enter the PMR and inflict a massive strike with long-range UAVs on our cities? Or does someone think that a lochthorat will swallow it silently as gestures of goodwill, regrouping and a difficult decision?
          Nikolai II also played for a long time and finally played out and deservedly so. Everything that our guarantor has been doing in recent years is more and more reminiscent of Nicholas II and his ylita
      2. 0
        4 March 2023 12: 45
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        Have you read the information?These plans are so obvious that even the announcements look like information after the fact..

        That's just the point that are not obvious.
        The Pridnestrovian direction is diligently excluded from the agenda, and the Matersonatists, as if by chance, broadcast that they do not observe the accumulation of forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction. Meanwhile, a simultaneous offensive in the Crimean and Transnistrian directions will put the Russian Federation before a difficult choice of priority, since both directions are critically important and we cannot afford to waste either of them, but at the same time ensure their security equally, given the remoteness of the PMR in our country not enough strength because they are concentrated in other areas. Based on this, in order to bring the junta and its curators to a sane state, we will have to use more serious "arguments of military influence", which have not yet been used, but the use of which mattresses are carefully frozen out. So, no obviousness, as it were, is observed, but a certain misinformation is methodically imposed.
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        Everything else, primarily in the hands of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff of Russia

        Surely, in the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff, their machinations are being cut through and I hope they will work in advance, once again breaking off their slender plans.
    2. +4
      4 March 2023 07: 47
      It remains only to indicate the forces and means that they plan to use. Combat operations are accompanied by such a rich information component in the media that even when trying to push disinformation in this flow of information, our analysts in the Russian Defense Ministry can always find the true goals of the enemy.
      1. +2
        4 March 2023 07: 59
        They can also send these units from Germany to Transnistria to capture warehouses with shells. what
      2. -1
        4 March 2023 08: 12
        The most important thing is not to give out your plans through whatsapp
      3. +1
        4 March 2023 08: 16
        There's probably a psychological component as well. Such a psychic attack. Instead of an air raid, information bombing. When they need it, they (the states) do not reveal their cards. They are silent about the purpose of the conflict on the outskirts! But they yell that Russia attacked Ukraine! But they are silent about Turkey's operation against the Kurds! Where are the protests against the Turkish operation? Our pacifists like Pugacheva and Galkin are also silent! Ovsyannikova where with the poster? And Akhedzhakova?
    3. +3
      4 March 2023 07: 47
      As an example, the announcements and subsequent attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv and Kherson directions were cited.

      And how did the attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv and Kherson directions end? Did these announcements help us? In fact?
      1. old
        +2
        4 March 2023 08: 07
        I would like to hope that the conclusions have already been made. Although we also hoped for this near Kherson
        1. +2
          4 March 2023 21: 58
          To draw conclusions, you need brains, and our untrained Adidas don’t have them at all, and all the events of the last year scream about it. If someone had drawn conclusions, they would have long ago changed the untrained Shoigu, Gerasimov and all sorts of Muradovs to Yevkurov and Teplinsky. And since Muradov was given a colonel general for the fact that he ruined a bunch of people and equipment for no reason, no conclusions have been drawn and are not going to be done. The reports are optimistic and all is well on the planet of the pink ponies.
    4. 0
      4 March 2023 07: 57
      In Bakhmut and Soledar they have already shown all their skills.
      1. old
        +4
        4 March 2023 08: 04
        In Bakhmut and Soledar, a mobile private army was waiting for them, with the time from identifying a target to hitting it being measured in minutes, not hours.
    5. +2
      4 March 2023 07: 58
      There are exceptions to any pattern. There is no need to rely on some unverified sources of information. The very fact of indicating bridgeheads for a counteroffensive does not mean anything. Leaks can be intentional.
    6. +1
      4 March 2023 08: 02
      If defense is being prepared in Crimea, then information is taken seriously.
    7. 0
      4 March 2023 08: 08
      And again, I would like to hope that our command managed to study such information trends on the part of the enemy with the adoption of appropriate measures.

      Maybe we do not know anything about what happens during the NWO?
      And the enemy will not know, and we will not worry.
    8. +2
      4 March 2023 08: 16
      Obviously the second option, the West is interested in control over the Azov-Black Sea region, without access to the Black and Azov Seas, Ukraine does not need NATO.
      1. old
        +4
        4 March 2023 08: 24
        NATO does not need Ukraine without access to the Black and Azov Seas.

        Ukraine does not need NATO at all. NATO needs a victory over Russia, preferably by the hands of the Papuans (and their lives)
        1. +1
          4 March 2023 08: 37
          Maybe you are right! But you must admit that if the Ukrainians, with Western support, manage to blockade Crimea, cutting off the land corridor and destroying the bridge, this will be a terrible image blow for Russia, which can also cause internal political instability within the country. I hope our top military-political leadership understands this well and soberly assesses the risks.
          1. old
            +3
            4 March 2023 08: 58
            The reverse situation is also possible here: when the NWO turns into a war, with strikes on the places of accumulation of participants in the 95th quarter and a change in the idea of ​​denazification of Ukraine to “Get up a huge country.”
            As for the image of Russia in the eyes of the rest of the world, we cannot influence this image in the eyes of the West, but for the image in the eyes of everyone else we must win. At any cost. Even with the use of tactical nuclear weapons, even without.
    9. +1
      4 March 2023 10: 02
      Ukrainian announcements of a counteroffensive on certain sectors of the front do not end up as disinformation

      About how everyone was waiting for the attack on Kherson, but there was a regrouping near Kharkov, the author has already forgotten?
      As an example, the announcements and subsequent attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv and Kherson directions were cited.

      There were announcements in the Kherson direction, and an offensive in Kharkov.
      Option one - a counteroffensive in the northeast and east - in the direction of Luhansk and Donetsk ... Option two - a strike in the Zaporozhye region in order to cut the land corridor ...

      Are these options obvious?
    10. 0
      4 March 2023 12: 32
      I think that, after all, an attempt will be made to cut off the land route to the Crimea, the destruction of the Crimean bridge, an attempt to block the Crimea from the sea. Then they'll negotiate...
      1. -1
        5 March 2023 09: 45
        No, there will be a flank maneuver with rafting along the Rhine and a landing on Mars.
        You can talk about anything, but the truth is that the density of troops is important, and with three soldiers per trapezoidal kilometer, there is no defense as a fact.
        I think even the generalof has already reached it.
    11. +1
      5 March 2023 01: 16
      They clung to the unfortunate bakhmut and do not notice anything but. Ukraine benefits from the fact that the armed forces are hammering at the same point, instead of large-scale actions. In the meantime, they are mobilizing, arming, studying, growing up and trampling again in the spring.
    12. 0
      5 March 2023 14: 03
      They take an example from Putin, after all, he honestly warns before doing something am
    13. 0
      5 March 2023 23: 56
      The American edition of The New York Times published material that once again speaks of the strangeness of the approach to preparing operations by the enemy. In the material, the author scrupulously talks about the details of the preparation of the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      - clear misinformation. The keywords are "The New York Times edition" and "the author scrupulously talks about the details." Didn't read further.
    14. 0
      6 March 2023 21: 21
      The author has so often focused on the fact that the enemy himself announces his offensives that there is no doubt that this is misinformation.

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