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Prigozhin appealed to Zelensky with a call to withdraw troops from Artemivsk: “Ticks are shrinking”

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Prigozhin appealed to Zelensky with a call to withdraw troops from Artemivsk: “Ticks are shrinking”

The founder of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin addressed the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky on a video. He called on the leader of the Kyiv regime to withdraw Ukrainian formations from Artemovsk (Ukrainians call him Bakhmut), emphasizing that the city was practically surrounded.


According to Prigozhin, at present there is only one road left for communication with the Ukrainian garrison. The remaining highways are already controlled by the Wagnerites.

Ticks shrink

Prigogine stressed.

The founder of Wagner PMC also noted that if earlier a professional Ukrainian army fought against Russian fighters in Artemovsk, now there are more and more old people and children in Ukrainian formations.

They fight, but their life under Bakhmut is short. Day or two. Let them leave the city. The city is actually surrounded

- summed up Evgeny Prigozhin.


Also in the story with the appeal of the founder of PMC "Wagner" Ukrainian prisoners of war were shown. These people look really depressing. Two prisoners of war are young men barely out of childhood. Another prisoner of war is an unimportant-looking elderly man with a large gray beard. The prisoners of war begged Zelensky to give them the opportunity to return to their homeland, not to ignore their request.

The fact that the situation around Artemivsk and in the city itself is deplorable for the formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has recently been increasingly reported not only by Western, but even by Ukrainian sources. However, Zelensky stubbornly refuses to order the withdrawal of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the city, fearing image losses. But it is unlikely that the death of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers or their capture will bring less damage to the image of the Kyiv regime.

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  1. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 March 2023 11: 36
    -53
    Prigozhin is vitally interested in the Ukrainians themselves leaving Artemovsk. He takes care to keep Wagner's core - the professionals. There are no more Zeks, his best fighters are going into battle. And they suffer heavy losses.
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 3 March 2023 11: 42
      +21
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Prigozhin is vitally interested in the Ukrainians themselves leaving Artemovsk. He takes care to keep Wagner's core - the professionals. There are no more Zeks, his best fighters are going into battle. And they suffer heavy losses.

      I do not agree with you, after Artyomovsk \ Bakhmut, Wagner will not go on vacation, but will continue to perform combat missions! So what's the difference where!

      But the appeal to Zele "respected" by Prigozhin, it seems to me, is superfluous.
      1. MAG51306
        MAG51306 3 March 2023 11: 46
        +24
        He respects the enemy and he does not hide it. He spoke about this many times.
      2. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 3 March 2023 13: 28
        +4
        The curator of the musicians turned to the wrong address. There is a reason to address such appeals to the one who decides what, how and when to do the Kyiv revolutionaries. IT SHOULD AT LEAST be referring to "Uncle Tom's Cabin"...

        Moreover, she has already dumped from Ramstein to her own office in the Pentagon ...
        1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 3 March 2023 15: 21
          +4
          Quote: ABC-schütze
          That is the address of the curator of the musicians. There is a reason to address such appeals to the one who decides what, how and when to do the Kyiv revolutionaries. IT SHOULD AT LEAST be referring to "Uncle Tom's Cabin"...

          Moreover, she has already dumped from Ramstein to her own office in the Pentagon ...

          Yes, he did not turn to him, he turned to Ukraine, why not dip the greenery and his hosts into excrement.
          1. ABC-schutze
            ABC-schutze 6 March 2023 13: 28
            0
            Well, its owners, in excrement, I would understand that. But the Kiev clown, for a long time, has himself become a full-fledged excrement ... Behind this, is it worth it, in general, to honor him with some kind of "appeals"? ..
      3. Blackbeard
        Blackbeard 3 March 2023 21: 53
        +3
        in our country, "respected" sounds more like an insult, and not something positive)
    2. Leader_Barmaleev
      Leader_Barmaleev 3 March 2023 11: 44
      +16
      Prigozhin simply does not want to burden himself with this fauna - if he dumps biomass on his side - this will be Zelensky's problem, if he remains in Artyomovsk - Prigozhin's problem. They need to be fed, treated, guarded. And do we need it?
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 3 March 2023 11: 57
        +5
        The regime of the Zelensky drug addict is now like the end of the mustachioed Nazi scum regime. The same children and old people in battle, burn everything, just to hold out longer.
    3. ivan1979nkl
      ivan1979nkl 3 March 2023 12: 13
      +6
      He takes care to keep Wagner's core - professionals

      the usual concern for people - both their own and even the enemy
    4. flicker
      flicker 3 March 2023 16: 40
      +1
      Prigozhin is vitally interested in Ukrainians themselves leaving Artemivsk
      I wonder why he is vitally interested in the Ukrainians themselves leaving Artemovsk?
      A cauldron will appear there and it will not be necessary to storm anyone, will it be enough to deprive them of food, ammunition, and then just hammer?
      1. dmi.pris1
        dmi.pris1 3 March 2023 18: 14
        -1
        Let's remember the history - Upper Silesia. February 1945. Konev was "intrinsically interested" in giving a corridor to the Nazis? Or is it still a sober calculation?
    5. Rumata
      Rumata 3 March 2023 18: 19
      -1
      Young man! You write everything exactly according to the TsIPSOshnoy manual. Did you get your 30 tetradrachms?
  2. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 March 2023 11: 38
    +23
    Prigozhin wants to avoid the assault on Azovsal-2 ... This is both loss and time.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 3 March 2023 11: 52
      +4
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Prigozhin wants to avoid the assault on Azovsal-2 ... This is both loss and time.


      And why, then, just recently, did he urge Zelensky not to withdraw troops and continue to defend Bakhmut? Type in order to grind as much of the enemy as possible. Now, however, he has changed his point of view. Or did he not voice his point of view?
      1. Semak
        Semak 3 March 2023 12: 05
        +9
        it was sarcasm and trolling, on the part of Prigogine.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 3 March 2023 12: 16
          +3
          Quote: Semak
          it was sarcasm and trolling, on the part of Prigogine.


          So the current statement can also be presented as an attempt to draw the attention of the Ukrainian society to the deplorable state of the Ukrainian troops. In short, everyone sees what he wants.
      2. kenig1
        kenig1 3 March 2023 12: 07
        +4
        If you listen carefully to Prigogine, he feels sorry for the children and the elderly.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 3 March 2023 12: 14
          -8
          Quote: kenig1
          If you listen carefully to Prigogine, he feels sorry for the children and the elderly.


          And we all feel sorry for them. What's next ? If so sorry, then let not the PMC command, but organize a medical or humanitarian structure and help all of them survive. Treat people, provide food and other necessary things. Now a lot of people need it.
      3. Leonidych
        Leonidych 3 March 2023 12: 11
        +11
        So Prigogine seemed to clearly say that there used to be pros in the city, and now there are old people and children. He wanted to destroy the regular units, but they were taken out and untrained mobs were thrown there, who were caught.
        1. Grits
          Grits 3 March 2023 13: 34
          +1
          Quote: leonidych
          He wanted to destroy the regular units, but they were taken out and untrained mobs were thrown there, who were caught.

          Something untrained mobs (old people and children) fight too well. The advance of the Wagners is going very hard and with quite serious losses.
      4. HAM
        HAM 3 March 2023 12: 17
        -1
        He specifically told you that they had previously fought against the army, and now boys and old men ...
        Mlyn, how foolish the boys' heads were! .... they probably went to play a computer game, at least it’s clear with the old man where you can go ....
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 3 March 2023 12: 25
          +3
          "He specifically told you that they had previously fought against the army, and now boys and old men."

          And these boys and old men hold the line so tightly that the professional Wagnerites can't break their resistance? Will you ever learn not to believe everything they say, and sometimes turn your head on?
    2. ivan1979nkl
      ivan1979nkl 3 March 2023 12: 04
      -1
      Prigozhin wants to avoid the assault on Azovsal-2

      humanity is the calling card of the Wagners
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 3 March 2023 12: 54
        +3
        Quote from ivan1979nkl
        humanity is the calling card of the Wagners

        Very agree with you! Dagger assaults, executions for violating internal rules, massacres with a sledgehammer in Syria and Ukraine ... we leave it out of the picture! Damn it, who's not without sin?

        But, if no joke, then Evgeny Viktorovich created the most combat-ready military structure. He saved thousands of lives for the Russian army (in exchange for his own). He showed that both on the battlefield and among his bureaucrats - the devil himself is not his brother. A tough and strong-willed person who is ready to go against the unwritten rules of the system and achieve his results.
        1. Grits
          Grits 3 March 2023 13: 38
          -2
          Quote: Stas157
          But, if no joke, then Evgeny Viktorovich created the most combat-ready military structure. He saved thousands of lives for the Russian army (in exchange for his own). He showed that both on the battlefield and among his bureaucrats - the devil himself is not his brother. A tough and strong-willed person who is ready to go against the unwritten rules of the system and achieve his results.

          And most importantly, he found an excellent resource to replenish his army - prisoners. Plus, he managed to convince the leadership of their usefulness and the ability to participate in battles, while gaining freedom. It's no secret that many prisoners are ready to sign a contract with Wagner even now. As Prigozhin himself said, it is still easier to breathe in a trench than in a cell.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 3 March 2023 17: 56
            +3
            Quote: Gritsa
            And most importantly, he found an excellent resource to replenish his army - prisoners.

            I completely agree. And he also ensured that this unreliable tool (contingent) really worked. And it is a pity that they stopped giving prisoners to Prigozhin.
    3. dnestr74
      dnestr74 3 March 2023 12: 24
      +5
      Without delivery, everything will end there quickly.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 3 March 2023 13: 01
        -1
        Quote: dnestr74
        Without delivery, everything will end there quickly.

        And Shoigu does not even begin with the delivery.
        1. Grits
          Grits 3 March 2023 13: 40
          -2
          Quote: Stas157
          And Shoigu does not even begin with the delivery.

          And also with the support of aviation, artillery, intelligence of all levels. Shoigu does not get a stone flower ...
    4. flicker
      flicker 3 March 2023 16: 44
      0
      Prigozhin wants to avoid the assault on Azovsal-2 ... This is both loss and time.
      This call is ambiguous.
      In such situations, they offer to simply give up, and not leave.
      Or ran out of tangerines?
    5. isv000
      isv000 3 March 2023 18: 02
      0
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Prigozhin wants to avoid the assault on Azovsal-2 ... This is both loss and time.

      For the marinade, you can use the National Guard and rear units. Surround and don't feed...
  3. Leader_Barmaleev
    Leader_Barmaleev 3 March 2023 11: 40
    +23
    Prigogine is beautiful! He said everything correctly, only the word "respected" had to be replaced with "hear you, scarecrow"
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 March 2023 11: 47
      +9
      Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
      that's just the word "respected" had to be replaced with "hear you, scarecrow"

      So this "scarecrow" doesn't give a damn about the Ukrainian people, he works off his billions of dollars correctly, but the people are Ukrainian, not his people, even if everyone is graved, Western democracy will not "forget" them.
      Although what can the people do if the pot on the head interferes.
    2. ivan1979nkl
      ivan1979nkl 3 March 2023 12: 07
      +1
      the word "respected" should have been replaced with "hear you, scarecrow"

      Wagner are polite people
    3. flicker
      flicker 3 March 2023 16: 45
      +1
      He said everything correctly, only the word "respected" had to be replaced with "hear you, scarecrow"
      But I wonder why he turned to Zele "respected"?
  4. Egoza
    Egoza 3 March 2023 11: 41
    +14
    Zelya will not hear him. After all, he vouched for Artemovsk. Although already in the west they tell him that "Artemovsk is not so important"
    1. art266
      art266 3 March 2023 11: 59
      +8
      It seems to me that the appeal is not aimed at Zelensky (he doesn’t care), but at the Ukrainian public - let them once again look at who the Ukronazis are driving to slaughter.
  5. single-n
    single-n 3 March 2023 11: 42
    -6
    Something Prigogine cannot understand. Then his main goal is to "grind" the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Then get them out of there. and we hate to kill them. If there are only children and old people, then they will quickly surrender and will not be used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in other areas. What will force Ukrainians to pull normal troops to plug holes.
    Briefly speaking. Whose side is the Supreme Culinary Commander on?
    1. flicker
      flicker 3 March 2023 16: 47
      0
      Briefly speaking. Whose side is the Supreme Culinary Commander on?
      Yes, he seems to be confused.
  6. Privet
    Privet 3 March 2023 11: 42
    -10
    And so it was possible, the commander of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation seems to have a different surname, and the commander in chief has a completely different one!
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 3 March 2023 11: 56
      +4
      and the commander in chief has a different

      The commander-in-chief is, as follows from the very term, the one who commands the army and the country in general in the war .. And is responsible for everything. Taking on the fullness of both power and responsibility. Here Joseph Vissarionovich - was the Commander-in-Chief, moreover - the Supreme .. And when the character stubbornly pretends that everything that happens does not concern him at all, what kind of commander-in-chief is he, even with a lowercase letter?
      1. parabyd
        parabyd 3 March 2023 12: 10
        +1
        The President is already the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. He does not need to perform any special ritual for this ... He, taking the oath, has already assumed full responsibility for the country. And he can't pass it on to someone else either. If he is responsible for the country, then for the NWO, no matter what anyone says, he is also responsible. Already answers, well, there are no other options. He answers not only to voters, but also to history. You can imagine that later they wrote in books: in 2022, the NWO began on the territory of Ukraine, it took place in such and such a way, but since V. Putin, who at that time held the post of President of the Russian Federation, did not take responsibility for it move, then Shoigu won / lost it?
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 3 March 2023 12: 24
          0
          It's funny .. Well - how much do you see this command? About responsibility - I’m generally silent .. It looks like we don’t exist in principle.
          1. parabyd
            parabyd 3 March 2023 12: 52
            +2
            I don't say anything about the quality of command. I'm talking about the fact that the responsibility is already on him, no matter what kind he does.

            And the fact that no one is being punished is a problem. And not only at the top. Do you often call the housing office, the mayor of the city, the governor to account? Do you need litigation, sue? This is where you can start to correct this problem, you see, soon our presidents will begin to report to the people.
  7. RusGr
    RusGr 3 March 2023 11: 46
    -2
    It will be interesting to run Prigozhin in the presidential elections?
    1. ivan1979nkl
      ivan1979nkl 3 March 2023 12: 08
      0
      Will Prigogine run for president?

      slander! it's a sin
      1. stankow
        stankow 3 March 2023 12: 39
        -4
        He doesn't fit. Strength elsewhere.
    2. flicker
      flicker 3 March 2023 16: 49
      -1
      It will be interesting to run Prigozhin in the presidential elections?
      It looks like he was dreaming.
      This is our Goloborodko.
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 3 March 2023 11: 47
    -4
    Aha! Vasilevsky appealed to Hitler to take the troops out of Stalingrad.
    By the way, in 14 they fought more, now they just show off.
  9. coinsam
    coinsam 3 March 2023 11: 50
    +4
    But so far there are no reports of the capture of either Bogdanovka, or Ivanovsky, or Chasov Yar. Prigozhin has already earned a very significant prestige by being responsible for his words, and never speaks in vain. But is it correct to speak of a "practical encirclement" when Bakhmut retained, albeit under threat, supply routes?
    1. dnestr74
      dnestr74 3 March 2023 12: 23
      +1
      There, the distance from Ptura is shot through .... You can not let anyone out at all, It seems like a specialist is allowed to leave.
  10. sdivt
    sdivt 3 March 2023 11: 52
    +3
    Quote: neri73-r
    Prigogine's appeal to Zele "respected" seems to me superfluous.

    Prigozhin respects himself and respects the enemy, which is why he is taller than the couch troops, where the terminology "country 404", "Urkaina", "cocainisimus" and others is in use.
    Right person. Man, with a capital letter.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 3 March 2023 13: 11
      -2
      Quote from sdivt
      Prigozhin respects himself and respects the enemy, which is why he is taller than the couch troops, where the terminology "country 404", "Urkaina", "cocainisimus" and others is in use.

      Oh, how is it ... And the prosecutor at the trial also turned to the opponent of a happy life for others, citizen Chikatilo - “respected”?
      * * *
      At this level, every word spoken can be worth a lot, and there is no need to put yourself above the citizens of Russia and the country whose interests he serves together with his company ... So that the fate of Zhukov G.K. did not comprehend or even some respected Lavrenty Pavlovich.
      Some kind of rotten stuff came from the words: "Dear Vladimir Alexandrovich" ...
      * * *
      A person who gives orders for the destruction of peaceful Russian citizens is not worthy of respect. The one whose structures shoot children in the back is worthy of contempt and hatred.
      * * *
      Arrogance and stiffness are not the best human qualities ...
    2. flicker
      flicker 3 March 2023 16: 51
      0
      Prigogine respects himself and respects the enemy
      Well, yes, and gave them tangerines.
  11. Prokop_Pork
    Prokop_Pork 3 March 2023 11: 52
    +2
    Why should they return to their homeland? On the contrary, now you need to stay away.
  12. coinsam
    coinsam 3 March 2023 11: 53
    -5
    And what kind of photo, who are these people - two young men, yesterday's teenagers, and an old man? Really zahystnyky Bakhmut? I wonder what military unit they serve in?
    1. ivan1979nkl
      ivan1979nkl 3 March 2023 12: 10
      0
      who are these people

      attack aircraft of the Armed Forces - the backbone of Zelensky's army
  13. Tagan
    Tagan 3 March 2023 11: 54
    +2
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Prigozhin is vitally interested in the Ukrainians themselves leaving Artemovsk. He takes care to keep Wagner's core - the professionals. There are no more Zeks, his best fighters are going into battle. And they suffer heavy losses.

    In my opinion, you are not following the information on Wagner very carefully. Let's clarify. These are former convicts, some of whom remained in the ranks. In addition, the replenishment of PMC Wagner is not exclusively due to prisoners.
  14. Galleon
    Galleon 3 March 2023 11: 55
    +5
    Quote: voyaka uh
    his best fighters go into battle. And they suffer heavy losses.

    It seems that your judgment is betraying you in this matter. Foreign PMCs and mercenaries were withdrawn from Bakhmut, as reported, on February 28.02, on the same day senior officers were evacuated. Today Bakhmut is leaving aerial reconnaissance - a platoon of Magyar. Prisoners - jerks and old men, thrown to the slaughter. And against this contingent there are big losses of musicians? If Prigozhin was silent during fights with experienced fighters, justifying the current appeal with a desire to avoid losses is far-fetched. He wants to avoid the loss of Ukrainian boys, that's more true.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 3 March 2023 12: 08
      +4
      "He wants to avoid the loss of Ukrainian boys, that's more true."

      That is, do you think that if these boys are evacuated from Bakhmut, they will be sent home and thereby save their lives? Their maximum will be taken to new lines of defense and they will again have to fight. Moreover, here, surrounded, they have much more chances to surrender and then they will certainly save their lives, and on the new lines of defense it is not at all a fact that they will have such an opportunity.
    2. single-n
      single-n 3 March 2023 12: 08
      -1
      He wants to avoid the loss of Ukrainian boys, that's more true.

      Which their own command will again throw into battle. Only already perhaps more successfully. Yes, and these "boys" in six months or a year will become seasoned fighters. Maybe all the same, it’s better to captivate them now than to give them and learn themselves and pass on experience to others?
      And Prigozhin was silent while there was a stream of volunteers and in the military unit, and the supply went through the privileged class. And now we have to fight on a common basis.
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 3 March 2023 12: 58
      0
      "And against this contingent there are big losses of musicians?"///
      ---
      You are being misinformed. In Artemovsk, the professional core of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is also fighting - experienced fighters. They are constantly adding inexperienced
      mobilized for reinforcements.
      If Artemovsk was defended by inexperienced soldiers, then the Wagnerites
      would have captured the whole city a few days ago.
      And Prigozhin would not have to turn to Zelensky.
      Wagner - the core of Wagner - suffers heavy losses in Artemovsk.
      For this reason, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not leave the city.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 3 March 2023 17: 59
        0
        Below is a comment by a parabid person. A good explanation of Prigogine's appeal. Yes, I understand your argument and it can be considered as some real factor. But not as a main one.
        Prigozhin is a very tenacious man, somewhat scary and completely ruthless. He would not have done so because of the losses.
    4. flicker
      flicker 3 March 2023 16: 53
      0
      He wants to avoid the loss of Ukrainian boys, that's more true.
      So let them offer to surrender.
  15. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 3 March 2023 11: 59
    +5
    Prisoners, in principle, have somewhere to send. This is the construction of a railway to Magadan, from Magadan to Chukotka, Kamchatka. To start a railway to Sakhalin and along Sakhalin too. Again, bridges across the Lena and the Tatar Strait. The work is endless. Organize "Ukrlag". Let them atone for their guilt.
    The Germans and Japanese plowed the same.
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  16. ZhEK-Vodogrey
    ZhEK-Vodogrey 3 March 2023 12: 02
    +2
    Specifically, these are similar to those recently mobilized. Colorful grandfather and two jerks. Their own country has wiped its feet about them and abandoned them. But as long as the pigs still have a lot of such meat behind their backs, they will throw meat at us. And at that moment they will prepare their main forces, which are trained in Europe, for the spring campaign.
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  18. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 3 March 2023 12: 07
    0
    “I received a combat order to immediately leave Bakhmut to a new place of hostilities.
    What are the critical reasons for the transfer when we spent 110 days of combat duty here? First of all, I am a military man, so I will not comment on the orders of the command,” the militant of the Armed Forces of Ukraine “Magyar” commented vaguely about the order.
  19. MBRSS
    MBRSS 3 March 2023 12: 07
    -1
    A heartbreaking sight. Priozhin's appeal is very appropriate.
  20. Armen Sologyan
    Armen Sologyan 3 March 2023 12: 09
    0
    It is best to wet the reptiles without stopping and all the way to Kyiv. As the United States once did with Korea, that is, they divided the 38th parallel into North Korea and South Korea, so divide Ukraine into East and West. In the west, most barmaley are from the descendants of Bandera and we don’t need it. And in the East, normal Ukrainians. Medvedchuk would become a good President of Ukraine and Ukraine would become, like Belarus, a Union State with Russia. This is one of the options.
    1. 75 Sergey
      75 Sergey 3 March 2023 12: 16
      +2
      Bandera to Poland - we don't need it
  21. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 3 March 2023 12: 15
    +1
    Why is he doing this?!
    The enemy must be eliminated.
    This means they must leave with weapons and equipment, re-form and, with the confidence that the Russians are kind, continue to shoot at us.
  22. Two
    Two 3 March 2023 12: 19
    0
    hi And when and where did the problems of the Indians worry the sheriff!? request
  23. parabyd
    parabyd 3 March 2023 12: 20
    0
    Prigogine's words hardly always need to be considered head-on. Therefore, we are not talking about a request to withdraw troops. About what then?
    1. The first message is that Zelensky is such a bloodthirsty ghoul that he is already sending children and old people into battle, trying to save healthy big boys who had previously studied and prepared, among other things, at the expense of these old people and children. (The situation is actually just terrible, if you think about it. By the way, who will be protected by that very professional army if it remains? After all, those who are being protected are dying)

    2. The second message is that human resources are already running out, the children have gone into action.

    3. The third message is that we are not at war with the population of Ukraine. They are hostages of the fascists who settled in Kyiv. We, on the contrary, wish them to live, prosper and make good (but in a neutral status and with the police instead of the Army), therefore, it is in the interests of the people themselves to help us if they want their children to live without grieve, trade both with Europe and with Russia and ate dumplings with potatoes
  24. dnestr74
    dnestr74 3 March 2023 12: 20
    +1
    Here you have April))) Handsome .....
  25. Tagan
    Tagan 3 March 2023 12: 38
    +1
    Quote from lenovo
    Two fake youngsters and a homeless grandfather.
    Staged video.

    Uncomfortable with reality?
    Well, if the nenka herself is a bum.
  26. Tagan
    Tagan 3 March 2023 12: 41
    0
    Quote: 1976AG
    "He wants to avoid the loss of Ukrainian boys, that's more true."

    That is, do you think that if these boys are evacuated from Bakhmut, they will be sent home and thereby save their lives? Their maximum will be taken to new lines of defense and they will again have to fight. Moreover, here, surrounded, they have much more chances to surrender and then they will certainly save their lives, and on the new lines of defense it is not at all a fact that they will have such an opportunity.

    However, this gave me a chance. And for those whom the Wagnerites are pressing there, it’s not a fact that they will be lucky enough to have time to surrender.
  27. Cronus
    Cronus 3 March 2023 12: 41
    0
    why do we need ruins? After all, only the surrender or destruction of troops and equipment will lead to victory faster. It’s probably easier to keep in a semicircle, sterilizing and destroying reinforcements and waiting for it again. But probably you know better in place.
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  29. Tma197725
    Tma197725 3 March 2023 18: 08
    0
    He already thinks for Chasov Yar the defense is no worse there. And these will most likely be driven there. And the demoralized enemy on the defensive is better for the Wagners than motivated fresh units.
  30. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 3 March 2023 18: 12
    +1
    It is better to close the ring and capture or destroy them than not to meet them face to face later.
  31. flicker
    flicker 3 March 2023 18: 15
    0
    Prigozhin appealed to Zelensky with a call to withdraw troops from Artemivsk: “Ticks are shrinking”
    Zaluzhny usually made such appeals to Zelensky. Now Zaluzhny seems to have a good assistant.
  32. Elephant
    Elephant 3 March 2023 18: 16
    0
    Let them withdraw, but the escape routes must be mined, at least with petals
  33. Elephant
    Elephant 3 March 2023 18: 17
    0
    Let them withdraw, but the escape routes must be mined, at least with petals
  34. Rumata
    Rumata 3 March 2023 18: 22
    0
    What kind of funny calls to the Clown? It is necessary to call on the doomed Nazis to surrender.
  35. the same doctor
    the same doctor 4 March 2023 00: 09
    -1
    Why allow a withdrawal from Artyomovsk? So that they stand on a new frontier? Why is it impossible to close the encirclement ring?
    Or again intrigue? You don’t give me shells, will I release militants in revenge?
  36. Oleg133
    Oleg133 4 March 2023 13: 09
    +1
    This is strange.
    Protect enemy troops.
  37. Roman Efremov
    Roman Efremov 5 March 2023 10: 13
    0
    Why let the enemy out of the trap when you can destroy him there?????????? So we will push the enemy out of each city so that he gains a foothold in the next? This will drag on for many years, and I'm not sure that our economy can withstand this. And that the society will be ready for the next waves of mobilization.
    If this year a radical change does not occur at the front and the front does not crumble, it will be very difficult for us.