The failure of youth policy and the lack of a vision for the future

Imitation instead of idea and real deeds

What does the situation with the youth subculture of "anime people" and the so-called. PMC Redan?

Firstly, young people, despite all the problems, are active and passionate. However, she is restless, she has nowhere to put her energy. The entire youth policy in the Russian Federation has failed.

Moscow City Duma deputy from United Russia Andrey Medvedev recognized:

“... they are not interested in the dusty Komsomol in a new wrapper, they are not interested in imitations of activity, they are not interested in concerts with Gazmanov, they do not find Yunarmiya attractive. They want a live, real case where they can feel that they are almost adults and that they are useful.

The state can offer them nothing but lifeless formal organizations. There were already quite a few of them, all kinds of “Walking Together”, “Ours” and others.

Why is Japanese anime, elements of the culture of Japan, Korea or China more attractive than the official youth movements of the Russian Federation or Ukraine? The answer is simple. That was all. In the late USSR, when the state pioneers and the Komsomol degenerated, they became lifeless, unattractive. The leaders of these organizations themselves did not believe what they were saying from the stands. And the youth organizations created in the Russian Federation are just a copy of the late Soviet organizations. And young people prefer bright, lively.

Therefore, in the late USSR, subcultures of the Western type arose - punks, rockers. The youth went to semi-underground sections of oriental karate. All this was tried to be banned, but to no avail.

Secondly, this situation shows that the current government is unteachable. These people can only imitate, but also prohibit. Hold on and don't let go!

So the head of the Safe Internet League, Ekaterina Mizulina, believes that the entire anime subculture is destructive in general.

“It’s time to stop turning a blind eye to this. It is enough to ask who the "spiders" are, after whom the "Redanovites" named themselves, so as not to be under illusions. Not the best role model. A significant part of anime people, despite the stereotypes about the attractiveness of this subculture, professes violence and is ready to use it,”

- notes she is.

Russian style

Like, ban everything, change foreign words to Russian, and everything will be fine. However, the problem is that in the Russian Federation there is no idea, no own. Only remnants of Russian and Soviet culture. A holy place is never empty. The void was filled by a Western surrogate for culture—pop culture, mostly American. Elements of oriental culture also came.

In general, in the Russian Federation over the past 30 years, in the field of culture, youth policy, they either slept or mastered money and imitated. After all, children and youth are our future. What did you get? The fact that children and teenagers in kindergartens and schools know perfectly well who Spider-Man, Batman, Iron Man and the heroes of the Marvel universe are. They know the current idols of the scene, imitate them. Although usually they are degenerates, alcoholics, drug addicts, debauchees and perverts.

But they don't know who Svyatogor, Sadko or Vasilisa Mikulishna is. Heard from Hollywood films about Thor, but do not know Russian gods. They don't know Russian stories. For them, the names of Lenin, Stalin or Suvorov are an empty phrase.

According to polls, half of the youth wants to go to the West as soon as they can. After all, the West gives them the image of freedom, the American dream. There are also projects aimed at the future, and not a project of a universal “pipe”, as in the Russian Federation. Even in the Arab monarchies, cities of the future are being built. There is a focus on the future, new technologies. And in the Russian Federation there is a dead void. Only money is the golden calf.

Therefore, when the special operation began, thousands of young people simply ran away from Russia. And the run continues. These are the consequences of the youth, cultural policy, which actually did not exist. There was only imitation and cutting.

It is obvious that part of the youth in this situation will leave for China or Japan. Since she does not see any future in the Russian Federation. In fact, it will be the end of our civilization. Because youth is the future.

No restrictions will solve this problem. As well as the creation of new formal organizations. In the information age, this is meaningless. This did not work out even in the late USSR. Children quickly perceive falsehood and lies. You tell them about Gagarin and the Crimean bridge, and you have children abroad, property in the UAE. Therefore, the treasury is doomed.

To kill the images of the West and the East, you need to create your own. Attractive, captivating and captivating. Lively and energetic. Learn from the USSR of the 1930s.

What did they take in the Stalinist USSR? There was an idea - a big, common cause! We were building a society of the future, a society of knowledge, service and creation. Just society. The cult of knowledge and creativity. Focus on the future. Gliders, airplanes, motorcycles, exciting competitions. The depths of the ocean and space. All this was consolidated by the real achievements of the national economy, science and technology.

Comments

[alexey_Murzin]

Firstly. There is an order of magnitude more freedom in Russia than in any other country in the world, and many people know this, including young people. And they leave Russia not because of freedom and not because of iPhones, but because of the possibility of self-realization. There are many more such possibilities. And educated people leave the country, and not just anyone.
With regards to anime cartoons ... Well, they do not affect the perception of life among young people. Ordinary cartoons, sometimes very well thought out and with a strong plot.
Of course, there are specific ones that can harm the psyche, but there are few of them .. Especially if you take Japan where these cartoons come from, then their children don’t go crazy.
Redan PMC is more of a publicized project that pursues goals that are incomprehensible today.
As for Mizulina, well, the person is clearly in the wrong place.
On the contrary, it is necessary to ban less, otherwise they will ban everything and you can only sit at home.
This is not only about youth, but in general. People have become disunited, no one communicates with anyone. There is no common.
And we need to develop some projects in order to pull people together ..
power itself divides people. As some kind of associations appear, so the authorities consider them dangerous and so on.

[evgen1221]

I agree with you. Young people need a deed and so that the fruits of this deed, self-realization, can be seen. It warms their souls when they talk about them - this is what this circle or club did (playing on the conceit of young people, of course, but they want that too, and it’s useful for the guys for self-promotion in their environment - this was done by Vasya, what a fine fellow he is, and Vasya he bursts with pride and he goes on moving mountains.I myself periodically teach young people to decorate, so you would know how proud they are when they do something with their own hands that can be seen by everyone in the city on the street! (Oh, I painted this facade or this flower bed I I came up with it and did it, look how cool it looks and I’m so cool!) The typical behavior of all the guys, and it’s cool, they are happy to do what they can show off in front of their peers, it remains only to direct this energy in the right direction.

[Tatyana]

Everything rests on the American ideology of post-Soviet secondary and higher education for colonized countries, what Russia turned out to be after the collapse of the USSR!
Work with youth must begin with a scientifically sound ideological and political education, starting from school and universities - and above all from the very, which turned out to be a corrupt teaching corps, those. from the school teachers and university professors themselves, who themselves are a hotbed for young people and a preacher of the ideological colonial infection in the country - of course, not of their own free will, but according to the training programs sent down to them "from above"!

Meanwhile, Russian education in the country has long been “sour”. The bourgeois ideology of the American economist M. Friedman, outlined in his book "Capitalism and Freedom", is no longer called "bourgeois", but is called abstractly class-based simply "market" with elements of the so-called. "monetarism" (i.e. bourgeois pursuit of financial profits).
But you can not equalize the concept of real capitalism with all its flaws with the doctrinaire idea of ​​the American Milton Friedman in the form of a kind of speculative social project, brought to life, to build a supposedly ideally fair capitalism on Earth all over the world. Due to what?
Due to the alleged existence in the world of some anarchist absolutely "free" from everyone and every world market, which is supposedly absolutely "clean" from profanities and dishonesty both on the part of the participants in the capital market, goods (services) and labor, and from pressure on them a nation state. And at the same time, the author assumes that all market participants free from the state are initially at all times equal in their life start to each other and can always become rich if they just want it. This is pure utopia and bluff!
Behind this attempt by Milton Friedman to whitewash capitalism lies a very definite goal taken by Washington's apologists. Namely.
The purpose of this American bluff is that sovereign countries, "native" to the United States, uncontrollably and duty-free on the part of their governments, erroneously freely and defenselessly from competition, open access to their domestic markets for US multinational companies to sell foreign goods and buy up "native" wealth by foreigners. , enterprises and natural resources.
At the same time, the reduction of native state property to the maximum - to "0" - is promoted by the "market people" exclusively as a public good. For the state supposedly does not need to control anything, there is no need to punish anyone, and there is no need to regulate trade and production either. That at the same time all members of society will become such honest and law-abiding entrepreneurs that therefore it will no longer be necessary to protect the population from swindlers, thieves, robbers and murderers. AND therefore, the alleged national state, as an anachronism, will disappear by itself as unnecessary, and there is no need to defend it at all. For the distribution of material goods "from above" at the state level is not required, because everything will be regulated by this "ideal" capitalist market. Well, those who did not fit into the market are already their problems. Let, they say, they survive on their own, as they can. These include, in particular, all the so-called. "superfluous" people: pensioners, disabled people, children, etc. - all those who "did not fit into the market." But they should be "happy" with their freedom from the centuries-old, fattening abstract-bureaucratic state, which has always been dreamed of by the anarchists for centuries.

TOTAL. All this the ideology of Milton Friedman about the alleged existence of the so-called. "free" and "clean" market is the ANARCHIST propaganda of the American establishment to decompose the national security of sovereign states to their complete elimination and subordination of their resources in favor of US multinational companies.
Unfortunately, this ideology has been unofficially adopted by the Russian ruling elite as a state ideology. It is implemented in practice by the government of the Russian Federation, the guarantor of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, in the State Duma and the Federation Council. And the HSE is a forge of bourgeois young cadres in this pro-American, pro-Western comprador colonial economy and its apologists.
REFERENCE
Compradorism (Spanish comprador buyer) is a way of doing business in which profit is derived from activities that undermine its national economy and reduce its ability to grow.

[AUL]

Tatyana, do not overcomplicate the question!

Children quickly perceive falsehood and lies. You tell them about Gagarin and the Crimean bridge, and you have children abroad, property in the UAE.

IMHO, this is the reason for the current situation.

[mikh-korsakov]

First, young people are different. You should not flap your wings because many young people left the NWO - they did not leave because they did not like the treasury of youth organizations, but for one simple reason - they were afraid that they would be sent to fight. The other part of the youth, or rather, mostly those who were young until quite recently, themselves volunteered to go to war. Not everyone is naturally given to be petrels - there are and always have been penguins. Here the author refers to the patriotism of the youth of the 30s. And to think - if Stalin had opened the borders in the 30s - many would have fled. It is not true that there is little freedom in Russia - in the West you can formally do a lot - even show your ass on TV - but there is such a thing as the opinion of the crowd - spewing out everything that gets out of the way "as it should" through a culture of cancellation. What to do? You have to work - you have to support your family - but honestly. Everything will work out then

[dmi.pris1]

By the way, yes. After all, most of them are fighting young people. About ten years ago, I somehow thought about the state of today's youth. And I came to the conclusion, what if there is a war? Will they be able to stand up for the country? They wouldn’t be of any use here either. Although serious problems are raised in the article

[Tatyana]

Quote from AUL

Tatyana, do not overcomplicate the question!

Children quickly perceive falsehood and lies. You tell them about Gagarin and the Crimean bridge, and you have children abroad, property in the UAE.

IMHO, this is the reason for the current situation.

In your opinion, the bourgeois class content of the colonial pro-American ideology, which prevails everywhere in the Russian Federation, is this "RECOMPLICATION" ?!
Yes, there is nothing to "overcomplicate" here!
According to psychology, it is the dominant ideology that lays in a person the PROGRAM of his behavior in society in order to set, as it were, his own goals and their implementation in life.

Well, if teachers and teachers - as the administrative and budgetary apparatus of the government of the Russian Federation in the country's public education - in their personal lives also sit solely on financial suction from the propaganda of the country's ruling bourgeois bluff - scientifically untenable - pro-American colonial and anti-Russian "market" ideology with its monetarism, then what do you want from children and youth?!
Besides. These same teachers themselves - starting with the Soros reforms of 1986 and the reforms of the Soros "young reformers" in the USSR / Russia over the past 38 years have already grown up on this consumer, corrupt Russophobic anti-Russian ideology of the American Milton Friedman in his book "Capitalism and Freedom"!

Moreover, even in my comment above, I did not write everything about this "market" ideology of the American Milton Friedman and how it works in practice in politics and economics on the ground, at every workplace!

And now, in fact, you are once again proposing to consider SEPARATE negative CONSEQUENCES of this ideological policy, and not the SYSTEMIC CAUSE of what is happening in the country and the world! And this is WRONG.

[goscha]

Here the author refers to the patriotism of the youth of the 30s. And to think - if Stalin had opened the borders in the 30s - many would have fled.

They wouldn't have run away... They wouldn't have run away from the country they built, in which they had a FUTURE OF CREATORS, and not CONSUMERS, which we have been growing for the last 30 years! The country was different and the people were different. Young people do not see themselves in modern Russia, there are no social lifts, no prospects, no development. Building pipelines and pumping resources to the West or the East is not development, it is a decline, and the current government is not capable of more. Burn through the legacy of the USSR - they can do it. And the fact that young people are fleeing the war ... so we don’t have the Great, and not even the Patriotic War, but the NWO. And then, is Peskov's son already at the front? Has Shoigu's daughter already enrolled in sniper courses, or at least nurses? Or the children of the oligarchs and officials will eat oysters in Lausanne, and the common people will rot in the trenches, right? By the way, before 1941, 9 million people took the courses of the Voroshilov shooters, i.e. they knew how to shoot, prepared and knew what they would fight for, and even die - for the Soviet Motherland, and not for the oligarchs and bureaucratic thieves.

[224VP_MO_RF]

To work honestly so that someone else's uncle has a profit? Originally, "work a slave, so that the owner is happy." The problem is the lack of education of the young, and even not very young, it seems to them that somewhere there is a "correct" capitalism, which they convince through the media on a daily basis.

[Sergey Samkov]

Here, this is your IMHO, and there is that state of youth ... I think so.

[stankow]

AUL, And in the countries of manga and spider-man, social stratification is even greater!

[77alex77]

Many, many words, what should be done? Ay?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: 77alex77

Many, many words, what should be done? Ay?

But nothing. We, in fact, arrived where the starving Muscovites wanted in the 91st. The shops are full, the yards are crammed with cars, whoever wants it badly can become a millionaire. Need to rejoice.

[Il'nur]

Need to rejoice.

I should have put it in quotes...

can become a millionaire

And then what to do, okay, a certain individual became a millionaire, bought a car, and for the majority of confidence in the future, there is no goal where the country is going, there is no development prospects ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Ilnur

and for the majority of confidence in the future, there is no goal where the country is going, there is no development prospects ...

And those who went to the square in 91 did not think about it. Yes, and Yeltsin did not voice any capitalisms. Down with the GKChP who seized power, down with the privileges, as if he himself did not use them, down with the state of emergency, long live democracy! Against the background of the State Emergency Committee, it looked better. In the provinces, we didn’t understand anything at all, except for ballet, and we didn’t show anything from the rare statements of the shaking Yanaev. They would have a normal leader, but be firmer.

[Alexey Lantukh]

You have to start with school education. In short, less English, and more about the Motherland in all forms.

[sent26]

So we can not without distortions.
As a result, there are not enough hours of English, and hours of national history, but there are innovative "Conversations about the Important", false to the point of heartburn.

[Arnok]

This does not work. My daughter is studying.
There the flag is raised for show by a Trudovik and a security guard.
And "Conversations about the important" was introduced, everyone scored on them a month later.
It is impossible to love the Motherland by order. It doesn't matter whose pointer it is - Putin or a teacher.
You just can't imagine how in the youth environment this is all ...
The depth of the depths so to speak.
Alas.

[Per se.]

Quote: 77alex77

what should be done? Ay?

We must start with the main thing, the return of power to the people.

Among the top hundred moneybags in Russia, 40 have foreign citizenship, 57 live mainly abroad, and more than 68 have taken their family members abroad.

What kind of patriotism and great idea with such an "elite" can we talk about?

Thanks to the oligarchs and officials serving their interests, most of the high-tech production inherited from the USSR has been destroyed in 30 years. And now the front lacks a lot, from drones to protective equipment. Citizens themselves are throwing themselves into this. There are still no rumors that one of the oligarchs would help the defenders of the Motherland. Such is the "unity with the people."

Such an elite is a natural conductor of the economic model set by the West for embedding Russia into world capitalism as a semi-periphery of raw materials. The elite programmed by the external enemy, if not changed, is capable of only one thing - defeat.

Speaking of Anglicisms, one must fight for one's language and culture. The Soviet Union not to a lesser extent fell because we were outplayed by Hollywood, pop and rock bands with English, hypocrisy, duplicity and meanness of "gentlemen", which in fact covered up their pirate essence of colonial criminals with expensive tuxedos and prim etiquette.
It is necessary to explain to young people the beauty of the Russian language, it is multifaceted, and the grammar is comparable to the signs of phonetic transcription, any foreign word can be written in "Russian letters". This is impossible in English, where the grammar is so stupid that without transcription marks in the dictionary, and the English themselves are unlikely to read the word correctly. It is amazing how this language of "troglodytes" with their animal atavisms of sounds could become international, moreover, the Anglo-Saxons even managed to make a fetish out of it. The songs on it are good, so the more indistinct the words, the easier it is to sing, such a "solfeggio" ...

We must begin to fight for our youth and our country, and if we don’t understand this, we will lose Russia, we will be finally “formatted” under Anglo-Saxon capitalism. In addition, we need to figure out how the Central Bank of Russia actually ended up under the IMF, and trade under the WTO, what do we owe there to "partners" who are already actually waging war against Russia.

[Sumotori_380]

The topic of the forcible protection of the purity of the language, in my opinion, was closed two hundred years ago by the phrase about the good house, wandering through the abyss in wet shoes. Even if this is a historical anecdote, it is very good and capacious. PS I doubt that any word of a foreign language can be denoted by the signs of the Cyrillic alphabet - a number of languages ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbcontain sounds that are absent in Russian. For example, the sound of English phonetics, encoded by the symbols th of the Latin alphabet, has no analogues in Russian phonetics and grammar. As well as Russian grammar contains the symbols ь and ъ, which are incomprehensible to native speakers of another language. Leave arguments about the simplicity and perfection of language to philologists and linguists with semiotics.

[Per se.]

Quote from Sumotori_380

The theme of the forcible protection of the purity of the language

Such a topic was not raised, the Russian language was always enriched with a multitude of foreign words that were built into Russian speech, were pronounced more clearly in it, and were supplemented with semantic nuances.

Quote from Sumotori_380

I doubt that the signs of the Cyrillic alphabet can denote any word of a foreign language

Your right - doubt it, but, let me remind you the polyglot entertainer, from the "Unusual Concert", Obraztsov's Puppet Theater. Zinovy ​​Gerd, who voiced the entertainer's puppet, spoke the language of the country where the theater was touring. He explained his amazing ability simply - he read words written in "Russian letters" from a piece of paper. About English phonetics, yes, when the “sock is in the mouth” or the jaw is dislocated, it is difficult to pick up the exact sound for this, just as it is difficult to portray some animal sounds, with their mouth undeveloped and unsuitable for speech. However, even this can be dealt with in Russian. And, here, for many Englishmen, even the simple word "Hedgehog" may not be given at all, like other sounds that require a well-developed speech apparatus.

English grammar... Probably, it is not dumber in other languages. It seems that the Britons simply copied the letters from the Romans, not fully understanding the essence. And so it went, they even dictate their last name, hardly anyone will spell it correctly. The hieroglyphs have more meaning and order than the inscriptions in English.
Now about what you leave "behind the scenes" - you need to protect the very culture of Russian speech, which is defiled by unnecessary Anglicisms that duplicate and displace existing concepts in Russian.
The theme of youth, its culture of speech, cannot be solved by "philologists and linguists with semiotics" alone. Here it is necessary to increase the general culture, and, the protection of the Russian language from alien "formatting", including a kind of English fetish.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Per se.

It is necessary to explain to young people the charm of the Russian language, it is multifaceted, and the grammar is comparable to the signs of phonetic transcription, any foreign word can be written in "Russian letters". This is impossible in English, where the grammar is so stupid that without transcription marks in the dictionary, and the English themselves are unlikely to read the word correctly.

Well, let's try to write down the phonetics of a foreign language in "Russian letters":
inconspicuousness, prejudice, rural, colonel... More toss?
Probably not in vain in the MFA alone there are more than a hundred "letters".
Although why did they invent the wheel, they would use the "universal" Russian ...

[Per se.]

Quote: Aleksandre

Well, let's try to write down the phonetics of a foreign language in "Russian letters"

Alexander, what is there to try when there are signs of phonetic transcription, and for each sign there is an example of sound with these same "Russian letters". For example, [i:] -close to the drawl "and" in the word willow, or [æ] - middle between a and e. You need to open your mouth, as for pronouncing a, and try to pronounce "e".

The fact of the matter is that in English one cannot read words correctly even in a dictionary, without an example with transcription. So, feel [fi: l], sounds ("in Russian letters") - fiil. Your example with inconspicuousness [ˌɪnkənˈspɪkjʊəsnəs], respectively, can be written as "inken spekyuesnes".
Nothing like this is hard to imagine using English grammar. "Russian letters" can be written almost any sign of phonetic transcription.
If the Anglo-Saxon "reptilians" had guessed initially to decompose their language into sounds and assign letters to these sounds, there would not have been a problem of reforming English and there would not have been this mess with their spelling.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Per se.

Nothing like this is hard to imagine using English grammar. "Russian letters" can be written almost any sign of phonetic transcription.

Well, yes, because transliteration has not yet been invented)
Kak govoril odin zabavnii kloun - "Let me speak from my heart". Ochen nadeyus, i do vtorogo doidet vsya glubina togo breda, chto on neset.

[Boris Sergeev]

One gets the impression that following the results of the 1991 catastrophe, an unspoken agreement was concluded that the leadership of television and other media, as well as the formation of the Russian Federation, was transferred into the wrong hands. How else to explain that the champion in the number of "reformative" initiatives is ... Gref, and the HSE includes a whole structure that is engaged in what else to abolish in education. Under the president, there is a whole host of advisers who seem to be engaged in the digitalization of education, although in reality it is about controlling students with the help of digital technologies. Suffice it to say that participants in various kinds of "intensives" sign non-disclosure obligations. And while we are being told from the big stands about "Russia's sovereignty," someone is raising children in order to take over the country.

[stelltok]

the formation of the Russian Federation is transferred into the wrong hands

Yes. There is such.
Here is recently:
https://ekb.tsargrad.tv/news/ucheniki-gimnazii-v-ekaterinburge-prishli-na-1-sentjabrja-s-galstukami-v-cvet-flaga-germanii_617340

Students of the gymnasium in Yekaterinburg came on September 1 with ties in the color of the German flag

In the gymnasium itself, they explained what was happening with the peculiarities of the educational process. Students are engaged in-depth study of German language. And before the coronavirus pandemic, schoolchildren from Yekaterinburg went on an exchange trip to Germany.

https://ura.news/news/1052583739
two German teachers work in the lyceum, who specially come to Yekaterinburg from Germany

Hmm.

[2 Level Advisor]

And? Germans are our main enemies? How many schools teach English, and? and before the Second World War they taught German everywhere, and what do you want to say in the end - in vain? or all those who studied German in 1940 - went over to the Germans - what are you talking about?

[Tatyana]

Quote from stelltok

the formation of the Russian Federation is transferred into the wrong hands

Yes. There is such.
Here is recently:
Students of the gymnasium in Yekaterinburg came on September 1 with ties in the color of the German flag
In the gymnasium itself, they explained what was happening with the peculiarities of the educational process. Students are engaged in-depth study of German language. And before the coronavirus pandemic, schoolchildren from Yekaterinburg went on an exchange trip to Germany.
two German teachers work in the lyceum, who specially come to Yekaterinburg from Germany

More than that.
Yekaterinburg - with its Yeltsin Center with "SAINTS 1990s" - according to Naina Yeltsina (she will be 91 on March 14) - For a long time now, as a political VRAZHINA, it has been stuck in the teeth of ordinary Russians!
And nothing has changed! The Yeltsin Center in EKATERENBURG has stood, stands and will stand for itself - it is functioning and will continue to function for the pro-Western colonization of Russia!

[Tatyana]

And as for the fact that Russian "education is being transferred into ANOTHER HANDS", then this is absolutely true!
In this case, suffice it to recall the high school student Kolya and fellow high school students from Novy Urengoy, who repent in 2017 before the German deputies in the German Bundestag for the "innocently murdered" German occupiers in the USSR during the Second World War.
Moreover, his German teacher, who was preparing the children for the performance, as far as I remember, was a migrant from Ukraine.

And only the NWO revealed for the authorities of the Russian Federation this pro-Western colonial ANSWER OF LOSESS in the ideological and political-economic public education in the Russian Federation. I opened it, but only corrupt pro-Western pus in the wound of observing the SOVEREIGNTY of the country and the people in Russia still remains so!

The results of the check on the "boy Kolya from Urengoy". Published 5 years ago.

[Reptiloid]

..... And a quarter of a century has already passed
Since we've been cheating.....
Fascists where? Where are the Germans?
They reached Urengoy........2018.

Good time, Tatyana! Thank you so much for the video, it made me think. Remembering another film about Kolya, I would like to say about his library, shown Yes, beautiful covers, large format books. Expensive. Solid. What's inside? Probably just what the stories of the students were created from. And this is also a topic. After all, good books, films, plots are very difficult to find now ..

[Frank Muller]

I won’t be surprised if “up to a couple” they open (maybe already in the Stavropol region) another museum, albeit to a different historical subject marked on the bald head with a “demonic mark”. Why not? His merit in the devaluation of Soviet ideological values ​​(with irreparable consequences in all areas, including pedagogy) is undeniable. And under the current government, such brethren are in indisputable honor.

[2 Level Advisor]

We don’t use the concept of “Stavropol region”, but they say Stavropol region .. and “bald with a mark” is revered no more than in any other region, you won’t hear good speeches ..

[billy bones]

This is not an impression, but a fact. And if it was only about TV and education...

[Dwellernet]

This is why "

Quote: Boris Sergeev

One gets the impression that following the results of the 1991 catastrophe, an unspoken agreement was concluded that the leadership of television and other media, as well as the formation of the Russian Federation, was transferred into the wrong hands.

Have you forgotten that in the early 90s all of our current leaders were trained in the USA? And according to the results of this internship, they were appointed to the appropriate positions. And after that there was only a rotation of the right people.

[Viktior Vinland]

Let's pay attention to this phrase of the participant Tatyana

https://topwar.ru/user/%D0%A2%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%B0/

Work with young people should begin with a scientifically sound ideological and political education, starting with schools and universities - and above all with the teaching staff itself, which turned out to be corrupt, i.e. from the school teachers and university professors themselves, who themselves are a hotbed for young people and a preacher of the ideological colonial infection in the country - of course, not of their own free will, but according to the training programs sent down to them "from above"!

It contains both the answer and the injustice and contradiction.

The beginning of the answer is that the programs come down from above. Further injustice in attempts to accuse our best in the world, kind, intelligent and humane teachers of alleged betrayal. These are people who work in the most difficult conditions, for meager salaries, who have a status in the new Russia that I don’t even want to specify, helping the development of our smart, kind and creative people. The nobility and self-sacrifice in the service of which makes people out of us. This is also the contradiction, they are accused of following programs lowered from above, that they are doing their job.

Teachers have no weapons, they have a word and they brought us up as best they could. This is not their task, but the task of people who have weapons in their hands to sweep away vile creatures that destroy the achievements of the USSR, education, science, health care, scientific and technical potential, and the material base of society.

The author correctly points out at the end that the blame for this lies with the still ruling group, pests, enemies, scoundrels and traitors. Their vile deeds are served by bloody ghouls without honor and dignity, how will the teachers kill them, with a ruler?

The youth is quite good, and this is also the merit of the teacher's feat. You can do better, for this you need political changes in the country, but better in countries.

[Tatyana]

Quote from Viktior Vinland

The beginning of the answer is that the programs come down from above. Further injustice in attempts to accuse our best in the world, kind, intelligent and humane teachers of alleged betrayal. These are people who work in the most difficult conditions, for meager salaries, who have a status in the new Russia that I don’t even want to specify, helping the development of our smart, kind and creative people. The nobility and self-sacrifice in the service of which makes people out of us. This is also the contradiction, they are accused of following programs lowered from above, of doing their job.[/b]

What office? What is the quality of the work?
Conscience fuck indiscriminately to praise modern - "poor", "unfortunate", "white" and "fluffy" - our liberal teachers!
Now, as a CLOSED professional caste, they selfishly serve in society exclusively to themselves - their well-being - and to the liberal "tops", and not to the working people! And with their brains, they are in a STUPID separation from the real life of the working people in the manufacturing sector!

Do not confuse modern LIBERAL teachers with SOVIET teachers, who were really ASCIENTS for the benefit of the people and the country, and not EXTORTORS from the people!

[stankow]

Tatyana, better not to say! I will quote you.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: evgen1221

Young people need a deed and so that the fruits of this deed, self-realization, can be seen. It warms their souls when they talk about them - that's what he did

I remember that someone decided to build new cities in Siberia.
So, we must completely give the youth the construction of one of them.
Everything must be built by the youth. From the project, and this is: housing, social and cultural facilities, industrial enterprises, etc., to construction. With wide advertising of this project among young people. Everything must be given to them. And the protection of public order, and health care, and education, etc. Project name - "City of the Sun". I'm sure there will be enthusiasts.
And the customer should be the state. And the state must approve the projects.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Project name - "City of the Sun". I'm sure there will be enthusiasts.
And the customer should be the state. And the state must approve the projects.

As long as the NWO is going on, there will be no cities. The budget is already bursting at the seams.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I remember that someone decided to build new cities in Siberia.

Do you still believe in this populist pre-election nonsense?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I remember that someone decided to build new cities in Siberia.

Do you still believe in this populist pre-election nonsense?

Yes, that's not the issue. A real question for young people. The decision to build a city can captivate millions of young people, tear them away from the sofa and the computer. After all, the project itself will make thousands think if a design competition is announced: 1,2,3, ..... 101,102 ... The government decides to build such and such federal production facilities in this city and again a competition. And then the construction itself, starting with housing. And not dorms and barracks, but full-fledged apartments. They say here that there is no money in the budget ... Well, if you look for reasons, then not a single thing will be done. Look for opportunities.

[UAZ 452]

Firstly. There is an order of magnitude more freedom in Russia than in any other country in the world, and many people know this, including young people. And they leave Russia not because of freedom and not because of iPhones, but because of the possibility of self-realization. There are many more such possibilities. And educated people leave the country, and not just anyone.

And freedom is the opportunity for self-realization. If these opportunities are not available, then this is called a mess, not freedom. Here we have more than enough mess. For freedom, one has to go to other lands.

[stelltok]

And freedom is the opportunity for self-realization

An opportunity for self-realization is factories - or industrialization.
Who mostly leaves the country? Engineers, scientists,...

[stelltok]

Especially if you take Japan where these cartoons come from, then their children do not go crazy.

They go. (But not all)

On the contrary, it is necessary to ban less

Disagree. There are many things that should be banned.

[Monster_Fat]

You all need ideology here, yeah .. my wife taught in both regular and private schools, and she says that both here and there the children do not want to study. Why? Yes, because there are no social or professional elevators in the country - everything is on a "family contract" everywhere. High school students say so, in an ordinary school, I won’t go to the factory to hump for my uncle for 25-30 thousand, but you don’t need to know higher mathematics, physics and chemistry to taxi, deliver food or insert windows - we know how to count, write and okay. And in a private school, high school students say why do we need to study, if dad and mom will suit us well anyway. So, you can at least come up with something in terms of "youth policy", but as long as we have a kleptocratic state, nothing will work.

[Frank Muller]

It's your truth, that's all. Only this devastating disease has gone so deep, giving such complications, that it is undoubtedly necessary to treat it as quickly as possible. Only now, it is not clear in what manner and who will take it?

[Tatyana]

Quote: Monster_Fat

you can at least think of something in terms of "youth policy", but as long as we have a kleptocratic state, nothing will work.

And the kleptocratic state just propagates the ideology of bluff manipulative in favor of the "top" ideology of the Chicago economist Milton Friedman, allegedly about the existence of the so-called. "free" and "clean" market for capital, goods (services) and labor, so that each "cricket" knows his "top" and "does not arise" about inequality in relation to himself and others!

[Knell wardenheart]

There is an order of magnitude more freedom in Russia than in any other country in the world.

In what?) In the ability to spend money if you have it (and will it?)? With us, damn it, the basement in our house cannot be dug deeper than it is written in the laws)))) Here is our attitude to freedom, dear! Yes, you are free to do a lot, but you can only appreciate that you are not free (de jure and de facto) if you study our ornate laws and precedents for their application from infancy.
So it’s beautifully said, but this is the mole’s reasoning that the whole world around the firmament is exceptional.

[Bolt cutter]

In our country, damn it, the basement in your house cannot be dug deeper than it is written in the laws

In England, too, so that the gnomes-diggers, greedy for square meters, do not bring down the house due to lack of engineering knowledge.

[Knell wardenheart]

What can I say, stupid rule! Because under the pretext of protection, it stupidly takes away a person's right. So it’s possible for you, according to the same logic, to take away the right of children to do something - they will say that “what if your child is born a new Hitler?” or “what if he is born with some kind of sores and will suffer?” or "what if your wife dies in childbirth?" . No, shitty logic! The right should be - the restriction of the right in each specific case can only take place in a justified (for this specific case) form. For example, it is impossible to dig filed because the high occurrence of groundwater, etc. Where this is not - dig for health.
I understand such a statement of the question - I will consider another as a "scoop" in all its 50 shades of gray.

[Bolt cutter]

I will consider another as a "scoop" in all its 50 shades of gray.

In no developed country you can do whatever you want - it's just dangerous. A half-educated builder can bring down not only his own house, but an "automaker" who has overturned his second-hand wreck can cause an accident. If you want freedom, you will probably like it in Burundi - you can dig there as much as you like.

by the same logic, take away the right of children to do

For speeddozers and drug addicts, this right should be revoked.

[Knell wardenheart]

I'm telling you about the need to justify the ban in each specific case (and about the fact that if this justification is not available, the right should be a priority) - and you are pushing me this Soviet line about "more bans - that means it's necessary!" .
When we have a continuous prohibitive line (without the need to justify each ban and cancel it if the justification is absurd), we come to the conclusion that some prohibitions and regulations outlive the existing systems, decades, and maybe even centuries. This, multiplied by the unhealthy inhibition of our system, will lead to the fact that we will never build a society that responds to people's requests in time - and therefore we will constantly face the need to catch up (more developed and nimble) and lie (to justify their worthlessness). It will be a vicious circle without end, the side effect of which will be the loss of people - those who have the opportunity will leave such a system for various reasons, others will eventually evolve more and more in the direction of indifference regarding not only the system, but everything connected with it ( what is already happening).
The system should be based on the needs of the people - prohibitions should be justified and canceled if the justification is unconvincing or does not correspond to the specific situation. Only with this approach can we finally begin to build a system that responds to the REAL SITUATION and REAL DIFFICULTIES, and not to some virtual reality of twenty, thirty or forty years ago using methods of twenty, thirty, or forty years ago.

I believe that the growing ability and desire of states to increasingly regulate and intervene in matters of individual freedom is a terrifying trend. Unfortunately the alternative to this trend is probably even worse. In any case, I do not consider this trend to be something right. I believe that at some point our entire civilization in matters of law and freedom imperceptibly turned somewhere in the wrong direction, and the further one goes into this jungle, the worse even the best of the options become.

As for freedom, I simply do not like the overly annoying tendency of incompetent states to voyeurism, despite the fact that they try to hide their own activities for their citizens as much as possible. It turns out a dangerous imbalance, which has already ruined our country twice and most of the savings of its quite respectable citizens. The state should have the right to limit the rights only in two cases - if the situation is extraordinary (and this is a necessity for getting out of such a situation into a normal mode), if the infringement of rights contributes to their further expansion through maneuver and success, expanding the capabilities of the whole society (and especially the infringed groups). In other cases, I interpret it as "unreasonable excess of authority". By the way, the state itself has a negative attitude towards it on the part of a person, but for some reason this is permissible for the state - and even you, a person living "in the West", do not understand, judging by what you write, the whole problem of this disproportion in relations.

[Sumotori_380]

On the other hand, amers, for example, have an order of magnitude greater possibilities for tuning cars. Which does not lead to a significant increase in the death rate in road accidents.

[All_Good]

It's just the power of the scoop and it's the easiest thing for them to ban it. To offer something of your own, it is already difficult, difficult, expensive, and so on. But the ban backfires as history shows.

[Monster_Fat]

"Prohibition" is the simplest: he banned it and lowered it down the chain of command to monitor its implementation and that's it. And if you need to "create" something, it's a lot of things that need to be done, and even coordinated among themselves and sent to different authorities so that they, for their part, begin to stir and begin to "create", etc. Therefore, no one in our country and does not want to "create" anything - this is a troublesome business and risky - what if it doesn't work out? And "prohibit" - two fingers on the table and sit yourself further, pick your nose.

[insafufa]

Quote: alexey_Murzin

As some kind of associations appear, so the authorities consider them dangerous and so on.

So the children were gathered with pilaf, they were fed, they explained what patriotism is, we ourselves are believers with my friend, so after this event they wrote a denunciation of us on that and ended our initiative, they asked us to sit and not stick out with our patriotism. Then AUE came instead of us. To be honest, I myself am a Naruto Anime Man.

[alexey_Murzin]

And I wonder why the emphasis is on the USSR? Taken as an example?
It did not even exist for 100 years, when Russia itself has existed for more than 1000 years.

[Qas]

The USSR is the nearest best thing in memory. Or do you have examples of the youth policy of the time of Peter I, our even earlier tsars-emperors? There are none. Therefore, the USSR, and there is nothing more to remember.
But the USSR will not pass now. Wrong time, wrong people, wrong ideals. And the government is no longer "workers and peasants."

[malyvalv]

Actually, in the USSR, youth policy did not work from the word at all.
1970s Kuibyshev (Samara). Throughout the city there are fights between "forage" and "bulls". Crowds of 10-15 people roam the city and catch "opponents" for education. Sometimes wall to wall.
Caps - students of the GPTU, trousers with a pipe, a wrinkled jacket, a cap, the ideology is called AUE in modern times.
Bulls - students, flared, shaggy, the ideology of Westernism.
That's all the vaunted Soviet work with the youth.

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

At the end of the USSR, she didn’t work very much anymore, but in the 20s-50s it was very much like

[UAZ 452]

At the end of the USSR, she didn’t work very much anymore, but in the 20s-50s it was very much like

If in the 20-50s it was "very much like", and in the 70-80s, without any external interventions, global catastrophes, it didn’t work at all, then the seeds of rot were planted inside the system back then. The first task of the community is to preserve itself now, the second, no less important, is to reproduce itself in the future, its population, ideals, and elite. The USSR did not cope with this task from the word at all. And if it is repeated, then its later period will be repeated, making the next 1991 inevitable.

[victor50]

Quote: malyvalv

Throughout the city there are fights between "forage" and "bulls". In crowds of 10-1

And in the 30s in the provinces, neighboring villages went wall to wall. And what? And in some year, one of the youth did something nasty in general. The Neyland case, for example. And all?! Failure of youth policy?! I remember how, being a pioneer with friends, we helped war veterans and were upset that we weren’t doing it as brightly and interestingly as Timur and his team did. They collected scrap metal, waste paper, and a lot of interesting things. Later Komsomol operational detachments. I have the best memories of my childhood and youth.

[AdAstra]

Yes, and under the tsar-father, it was like a village against a village of youth.

[malyvalv]

There is a nuance. Village wall to wall have no ideology. In Kuibyshev, we had fights from microdistrict to microdistrict at the same time.
But the "forage" against the "bulls" is already an ideology. And both have nothing to do with a communist upbringing. For some, the opposite side is "". For others, opponents are "fraera". It is clear that there were not so many such young people. Not even half. Here is an interesting fact that it was already then in noticeable quantities.

[Doccor18]

Quote: malyvalv

Actually, in the USSR, youth policy did not work from the word at all.

Of course it didn't work. And 45 thousand Komsomol members left for the construction of the BAM. Many stayed there to live ... Now try to persuade 50 thousand young people to leave for the Far East, to work in the most difficult conditions ...

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Doccor18

And 45 thousand Komsomol members left for the construction of the BAM. Many people stayed there to live.

and purely at the call of the soul, there were no buns yourself?

[Doccor18]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

purely at the call of the soul, there were no buns yourself?

It was different, and at the call of the soul a lot went, and the buns were not bad, what to hide. But now who "at the call of the soul" will go? And for the "buns"? Yes, it is impossible to imagine what these "buns" should be now, for which our youth will rush to the far north ...

[aars]

Oooh, there were buns, what more!
For example "give me 700"
salaries in the sense
Despite the fact that in some shabby non-black earth region they received 150-200 rubles

[victor50]

Quote: Doccor18

And 45 thousand Komsomol members left for the construction of the BAM.

My wife - who then passed to the 9th grade - and almost the entire class was removed from the train - they went secretly from their parents to build BAM.

[aars]

They were small
Older people were guided by other motives

[victor50]

Quote: Qas

youth policy of the time of Peter I

Education of noble children, incl. in Europe. Isn't this youth policy? For those times - a revolutionary event and a mass one, once it got into history. And the USSR is remembered because it is not only the recent past, but during this period there were many really outstanding things that should be adopted. And we do not even seriously study this experience.

[bk0010]

Quote: Qas

Or do you have examples of youth policy from the time of Peter I

There is actually: Peter 1 drove the youth to study over the hill, did not give the nobles "who did not comprehend the basics of knowledge" to marry.
Under Nicholas 2, Russian scouts were created, but they crap: they were slaughtered by their drill instead of teaching survival skills. Naturally, no one was interested in marching.

[insafufa]

Quote: Qas

And the government is no longer "workers and peasants."

As if under the USSR, the workers and peasants had power when the villagers were not given passports until the end of the 60s, in fact they were serfs. when a family with at least one child with at least eight children was allowed to have only one cow.
As they say, revolution is made by romantics; bastards use its fruits.
Lenin is not a worker, not a peasant, Trotsky is a petty bourgeoisie, Frunze is also from the petty bourgeoisie. Stalin is a half-educated seminarian, Khrushchev is an illegitimately born Polish sympan according to one version, but in fact his father is an engineer at a mine and Nikita did not work at a mine, but just an ordinary engineer and technician where he drew electrical wiring diagrams, Zinoviev is the son of the director of a dairy factory. Kamenev is the son of an engineer.
All these are fairy tales for the underdeveloped that the country of workers and peasants from the very beginning was ruled by scoundrels who were busy lining their pockets. When the Kuban collective farmer and the drunk collective farmer and the Sverdlovsk region got to the leadership, everything was ruined. Doge Brezhnev, who wrote that from a family of workers for verification, he turned out to be from a family of engineers; his father was a technologist at a metallurgical plant, this is not a worker, but an engineering specialty. ANDROPOV from the family of a railway engineer.

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

The USSR is not part of the entire Russian history? Or what kind of Russia do you have for more than 1000 years? For 1000 years, there has never been any Russia in the modern sense and it has always been different. Either Kievan Rus, then separate Principalities, then the Moscow Kingdom in different borders, then the Republic of Ingushetia, then the USSR, then the Russian Federation. And a question for you, if you do not like the Soviet period, then tell me, for, as you put it, 1000 years of history, which period of work with youth do you like best? Which was under Ivan the Terrible, under Fyodor Mikhailovich or the Golden Horde?

[restless]

Under the USSR, I studied for free for 1 ruble a year, in 2 sections - wrestling and volleyball, I also went to study dombra and an aircraft modeling circle. And now a friend of a child leads a hockey game for a million a year, is there a difference? Many will allow a million for hockey???

[insafufa]

Quote: restless

Under the USSR, I studied for free for 1 ruble a year, in 2 sections - wrestling and volleyball, I also went to study dombra and an aircraft modeling circle. And now a friend of a child leads a hockey game for a million a year, is there a difference? Many will allow a million for hockey???

My children go to the Dombra for free and the state issues certificates for the circles. The section of Salavat Yulaev of the hockey club for children is free, but the uniform is very expensive and even second-hand. Here the pools have become paid, but those who go to competitions from the state say they are still free of charge, the coach of my children says so at least.

[Doccor18]

Quote: alexey_Murzin

And I wonder why the emphasis is on the USSR? Taken as an example?
It did not even exist for 100 years, when Russia itself has existed for more than 1000 years.

Because more has been done in the USSR in 70 years than in 700 years before it ...

[UAZ 452]

The USSR after 70 years, without any war, external occupation, simply ceased to exist. Its predecessor, the Russian Empire, nevertheless lasted longer. And supporters of the Republic of Ingushetia fought for her in the Civil War, died for her. For the USSR, no one was going to die at the barricades, these barricades simply did not exist.

[goscha]

For the USSR, no one was going to die at the barricades, these barricades simply did not exist.

The USSR fell victim to the betrayal of the military-political elites, the people handed over weapons to the Army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the KGB, tearing them away from themselves, fed these loafers and believed that they would protect the country from the enemy, both external and internal, but they changed their oath and betrayed the people who believed them. And you say - to the barricades ... With cobblestones to the tanks? Oh well ...

[Siberian]

The USSR has been gone for thirty years. And yes, those were great, but still naive years. And the USSR of the times of Stalin's great achievements, due to the base effect, and the late USSR are two big differences. And no matter what anyone says, but all of us, namely people, fit perfectly into today's capitalism.

[Sumotori_380]

In 700 years, Russia has expanded from a tiny principality of Moscow to Finland and Poland in the West and Alaska and California in the East.

[lubesky]

Let's start and end with the "successful golden youth" - the children of the rulers themselves! Where do they live, what do they wear, how do they play and where do they study? Whose culture do they carry as an example to the youth masses? The article lists a bunch of subcultures of different times, but almost all of them are protesting to adults, which is a natural component of youth. However, it is much more dangerous that young people copy the children of the politicians themselves!
From the inaccessibility of the lifestyle of the golden youth for money, the youth mass goes to the subcultures accessible to them - aue, goths and other crap. From what? From the fact that the authorities simply made mass sports, circles and sections simply inaccessible, instead filling the void with stillborn youth movements that the youth do not need and are created for the development of budget funds.

Look at the content of state television channels and you will understand that young people in single-industry towns, in the absence of a youth policy, after serials about garbage, Cinderella and Cinderella, outright crime, go to drink beer in the entrances. There is nowhere else to go.

There is no point in Solovyov's propaganda when his effeminate son walks around London wagging her ass during the NWO. This also does not work in the absence of directed policy.

[Lech from Android.]

The article is interesting but not without flaws.
I have a child who is fond of Japanese anime ... I do not forbid her to do this ... it makes no sense.
I'm trying to understand why we don't have Russian anime that can captivate young guys and girls.
I think because the internal youth policy of the state is amorphous, vague and does not correspond to the realities and expectations of young people.
The statesmen and ladies were somewhat detached from the inner world of the younger generation.
First of all, our deputies need to understand what kind of world our children live in, what they see around them, what they feel, what they want.
Threats and prohibitions for them should not be direct ... this should be done through a visual, virtual, verbal, emotional window of the teenager's inner world with the help of simple means such as movies, songs, various youth parties and other tools.
And what is now being offered to young people is too clumsy, rude, stupid, often stupid and formalized ... the official reported on the work done with the young and that's it ... and then at least the grass does not grow.
We need to create our own real leaders among the young people living among them ... professionals in this area should work here.
Brainwashing young guys is a multi-vector job...that we have yet to learn from our current enemies and adversaries.
I watch with interest how young people are brainwashed in the same USA, Britain, Ukraine, the Czech Republic, Poland and then ... there is something to learn from them.

[Andrey Moskvin]

I'm trying to understand why we don't have Russian anime that can captivate young guys and girls.
Why all this nonsense? I still think it's about education. There were no punks or rockers in my yard. Studied, got a profession, worked. There were practically no marginals. Of course, "they drank beer in the entrances," as they wrote above, but where without it? We had to meet somewhere. And not everyone is attracted to sports. A stupid thing to do, if you think about it.

[cash]

this "nonsense" motivates many soldiers of the Russian army stronger than the mothball chants provided by the state, the state did not offer anything, no idea, everyone came to the war with his own - and each is better than what they broadcast

[evgen1221]

Children love to imitate bright, memorable images. Mossy Soviet ones are no longer suitable for them, but what is left of their own? Nothing, only cops, bandits, narcissistic peacocks on TV and trash bloggers, so they choose from varieties of guano for lack of another. In our country, the youth policy is only cut and formalism. Something unusual and fascinating is drowning in Samson's good propaganda.

[lubesky]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

Of course, "they drank beer in the entrances," as they wrote above, but where without it? We had to meet somewhere.

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

And not everyone is attracted to sports. A stupid thing to do, if you think about it.

Hmm ... Your logic is interesting, however ...

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

I think all life in the modern Russian Federation is a surrogate, starting with products and ending with ideas. An idea is good and alive when it reflects objective reality, which, in turn, dances from the economy. And what is happening with us? Young people are keenly aware of lies and falsehood, which is why they are not interested: prohibitions on pouring mud on our history - under the upholstery of the mausoleum, and filming films on state funds where this history is remembered; statements about the fight against fascism - for filming films on state funds, where the Nazis are not so bad, where the "conscience of the nation of Solzhenitsyn" CIA agent and praiser of Bandera are taught in schools, where the favorite philosopher of the guarantor is the fascist Ivan Ilyin, where they put up a monument and hang boards to Hitler's collaborators, etc., etc. As the protagonist of the series "The Great Game" said - not a country, but a solid decoration.
https://youtu.be/Wt_k5FA-HLM

[your1970]

Quote: Mikhail Krivopalov

Young people are keenly aware of lies and falsehood,

- in the Kursk region there was a field on which many of our soldiers died during the war. Along the field there was a boundary, and on this boundary conscientious tractor drivers folded their skulls that jumped out from under the plow during plowing. Not conscientious, they plowed further ...
They knew about it ALL- collective farm authorities, military commissar, party authorities and so on.
Not a single TV / ary of them bothered - to withdraw the field from circulation so that it would not plow at least.
On the one hand, the blabbering about "No one is forgotten - nothing is forgotten" on the other hand is a field with skulls on the border .....
"So what if spacecraft fighters have been lying on the field for 30 years? We need to fulfill the plan !!" and all over the country...
And the whole country saw it ....
So nothing new - just as bureaucrats ruled in the USSR, so today they also rule ...

[Essex62]

A really disgusting episode from the history of the USSR, you repeat like a mantra from year to year. It wasn't like that everywhere. It happens that a whole clot of the substance of scoundrels has accumulated in one place, met. Here is your example. But this is an exception. In the Union, in almost every family, someone died in the Second World War and the memory of the dead was respected. In our village, a tractor driver who plowed a nest was stuffed in the face, and you deliberately, over the remains. It wasn't. All the time tormented by the question, who are you?

[vovochkarzhevsky]

All the time tormented by the question, who are you?

Come on. Someone for sure.

By the way, do you think the coincidence of design is an accident?

[Essex62]

Of course not. It is also extracted from the White Guard-imperial naphthalene.

[UAZ 452]

You are passing off the declared as real. A few years ago, there was an article on VO about an expedition of search engines to Kunashir. They were looking for the remains of our and Japanese soldiers for burial. Ours were found many times more than Japanese ones. The Japanese were losing the war, they hurriedly evacuated to the metropolis, nevertheless, they took almost all of their dead with them. We then won, this territory remained with us, while no one bothered to search for and bury the dead either then or for the next 70-odd years.
But we really did find an elegant solution - to pay off all the dead, left to rot in the forests and swamps, with one grave of an unknown soldier in the whole country. What? Well saved public money!

[Essex62]

Enthusiasts bothered then, just as they do now. Today, what is a state program with funding to search for the remains of dead soldiers? The usurers and the brothers who saddled the pipe, the living are of no use, but the fallen ... well, perhaps only as braces. In what I agree, most officials under any government are the same. But under the Soviet one they could, at least, be taken by the throat.

[kalibr]

Quote: Lech from Android.

And what is now being offered to young people is too clumsy, rude, stupid, often stupid and formalized

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[stelltok]

I'm trying to understand why we don't have Russian anime that can captivate young guys and girls.

Instead of anime, it would be better to do circles on aeromodelling, or robotics.

[ratcatcher]

There were attempts to make Russian anime. For example, a successful attempt is "First Squad". Unfortunately, there are few such attempts.
In general, there is nothing terrible in anime. And 20 and 30 years ago teenagers watched anime. Moreover, even those who were born in the USSR, in childhood, many watched Japanese anime "Ghost Ship", "Puss in Boots". It certainly didn't get any worse...
And mostly people whose philosophy of life is built on the principle "If you are so smart, why don't you go in formation" are the ones who are buffing. Mizulin. the eldest and daughter, just propagandists of such a philosophy - "no matter what happens." And "no matter how it came out" usually different nonsense and it turns out ...

[Monster_Fat]

I read the comments and you can immediately see why the modern youth policy has failed. Those who are trying to create this policy do not understand the youth at all. With their brainwashed by Soviet life, from the height of their years, they are trying to figure out what is missing today's youth and come up with only one thing: a new pioneer and a new Komsomol - so that everything is in the name of the Motherland, in one formation and with songs. They cannot understand that the time and the country have changed! Others! And the old one will no longer work! We must look ahead, look into the future, and not drive everyone into the outdated, yesterday's framework. If we take the same Japanese anime, then the Chinese have long surpassed it with their dramas, both in quality and in execution, and in terms of the underlying idea. In Chinese dramas, the main character climbs the professional and social ladder, using the conditions created by society and reaches unprecedented heights, thanks to his qualities - the desire to learn, learn new things, listen to elders and serve the society, which gives him the resources for development. But in China, all this is and is working - that is, in China there are and are working social, professional lifts, the state maintains structures for the education, development and training of its citizens in all areas. That is, Chinese anime is included in the system of state ideology for young people, from childhood it shows young people the path of development and perfection. But this only works if the above social, professional elevators are working in society and a generally accessible and effective system of education and obtaining the necessary skills! It's all there in China! But not in Russia! In Russia, they correctly write here, society is divided into those who are allowed everything and those who are despised and who can barely make ends meet. Moreover, these are closed social groups. Hence the contempt of some, those who are above, for others and the reciprocal hatred towards them from those who are below. What kind of "youth policy" can be in such conditions?

[Nikanor1993]

Capitalism ---> material values, individualism. You are not just shown on TV or on the Internet who is the coolest, you see it on the street - this is the one who has more money and arrogance. Or did I miss something and we hear about the heroes of labor, doctors, astronauts and other people who received their merits for the qualifications and moral qualities of their personality? As for me, Potanin is cooler, he messed up everything in Siberia and no responsibility, and also the yacht is big.
But seriously, I like how the emphasis is not just on the USSR, but on the Stalinist USSR (with my respect to both of our fathers of nations). The principles of equality and humanism were laid as a whole as the basis for the construction of socialism, there is no other way. The only way to raise worthy people is by setting a worthy example for them, but there is a catch in that the entire society should set the example. No media content without normal behaviors of people around you will help.

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

Remy Meisner and Klim Sanych are getting along, comrade?

[Nikanor1993]

Yes, they know how to beautifully decompose some moments. At one time he was carried away by the work of Demyanka, and Comrade Remy just popularizes it. The only pity is that these figures spend time analyzing lies (even when I was studying the archipelago, I came across Tomasz Rzhezych's book "Solzhenitsyn's Spiral of Treason", in which Isaech's story is decomposed starting from his studies at school). So, as for me, there would be more analyzes on the history of the Civil War and the history of the party, and it would be absolutely cool.

[kalibr]

Where there are no good youth, there were no good old people! (Dagestan proverb). And we have all the old people from the scoop! And the moral is still the same. And culture...

[multicam]

Do you really think that people of the elderly and advanced age, who come from the USSR, are to blame for the fact that young people are like this now? Very interesting logic. If the USSR is a scoop for you, then your attitude towards it is clearly negative. But before that, as you put it, the scoop was the Republic of Ingushetia, which was gone. So everything was bad there with the old people, who, it turns out, brought up the youth in such a way that at a difficult moment they did not stand up for the monarchy, preferred a bourgeois republic, a civil war and, as a result, a scoop? Maybe, according to your logic, the Eastern Slavs are generally not able to give normal old people and normal youth ??

[Mordvin 3]

Quote from multicam

If the USSR is a scoop for you, then your attitude towards it is clearly negative.

Shpakovsky, that is, Caliber, shifter. Former full-time propagandist of the CPSU and a teacher of kids since the 70s. By history.

[UAZ 452]

Do you really think that people of the elderly and advanced age, who come from the USSR, are to blame for the fact that young people are like this now?

The current old people are 70-80 years old. In 1991, they were 40-50, that is, the most productive age. It is this generation that bears the main responsibility for the collapse of the USSR, for the fact that for the first time in the history of human civilization a change in formation occurred almost without bloodshed - it’s just that no one “fitted” into the outgoing system. And now you want to say that these current old people do not bear any responsibility for what is happening now? The desire to "jump off" is natural and understandable, but they have no moral right to do so.
PS And those old people who, as some people like to speak pompously, built socialism, our country, its power, etc., etc., they have long been in their graves. For 90-100 or more years, few people live with us.

[Essex62]

Don’t give a shit to yourself bloodlessly. The people, in the database and at the television center, were crumbled by contra ... You can show it to those who, for chewing gum or because of indifference, the country has passed. But not everyone.

[UAZ 452]

Bloodless. What happened in 1993 is a banal squabble between the winners for the booty. There was nothing fateful for the country in it, and could not be. Khasbulatov and the Armed Forces are no more drawn to the role of defenders of the Fatherland than Borka the drunk.

[Essex62]

I don't need to tell you about an undeciding squabble. Almost all the deputies of the Supreme Soviet were ready to vote against privatization and, in general, the course towards capitalism. I saw it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears. In figs on the Chechen, they figured it out without him, they would have. From that and the tanks in the center of Moscow. To put it in the jargon of the guarantor and relatives - complete chaos. It was quite possible to break the back of the counter. Who are you to hang labels and denigrate dead people?
ZY.Veterans of the Second World War were also in the composition of the Armed Forces, real, not fasteners of the oligarchic power. And according to them from tank fools.

[Doccor18]

Quote: UAZ 452

The current old people are 70-80 years old. In 1991, they were 40-50, that is, the most productive age. It is this generation that bears the main responsibility for the collapse of the USSR

In thirty years, some "wise guy" will blame you for allowing the pension reform to be adopted ...

[UAZ 452]

And he will have every right to do so. Both you and me. Our generation, apparently, will not be able to enjoy the role of respected aksakals. They didn't deserve it, at least not yet.

[kalibr]

Quote from multicam

So everything was bad there with the old people, who, it turns out, brought up the youth in such a way that at a difficult moment they did not stand up for the monarchy, preferred a bourgeois republic, a civil war and, as a result, a scoop?

Certainly. They were the children of slaves, the psychology was paternalistic. And time has changed. They could give nothing to their children of the new era!

[Comrade I]

And we have all the old people from the scoop! And the moral is still the same. And culture...

And that's right. Take, for example, Vyacheslav Shpakovsky ...

[kalibr]

Quote: Comrade Y

And that's right. Take, for example, Vyacheslav Shpakovsky ...

Some of the best representatives of society do not do the weather. Fools in society are 80%, and smart 20%. Naturally, it is difficult for them to overcome the majority ...

[AdAstra]

Good thing you weren't my teacher.

[kalibr]

Quote from AdAstra

Good thing you weren't my teacher.

There are a lot of comments on the Web in which my students thank me, giving me how!

[newtc7]

Quote: Nikanor1993

Capitalism ---> material values, individualism. You are not just shown on TV or on the Internet who is the coolest, you see it on the street - this is the one who has more money and arrogance. Or did I miss something and we hear about the heroes of labor, doctors, astronauts and other people who received their merits for the qualifications and moral qualities of their personality? As for me, Potanin is cooler, he messed up everything in Siberia and no responsibility, and also the yacht is big.
But seriously, I like how the emphasis is not just on the USSR, but on the Stalinist USSR (with my respect to both of our fathers of nations). The principles of equality and humanism were laid as a whole as the basis for the construction of socialism, there is no other way. The only way to raise worthy people is by setting a worthy example for them, but there is a catch in that the entire society should set the example. No media content without normal behaviors of people around you will help.

There has already been an experiment with communism, the results are still being felt. The wild capitazid is also a disgusting thing. We need a combination of a market economy with elements of the state plan (duties, loans, etc.) with the Russian Christian tradition.
However, judging by everything, we all the same will fall apart and the resolution will still be.

[cash]

The problem, first of all, is that Russians cannot call themselves Russians, we have no subjectivity, when some hat from local deputies tells you: who are Russians? where do they live? I know the Tatars, they are in Tatarstan, but where are the Russians? and stuff like that ... but there are diasporas, and it turns out like Orwell in "Animal Farm" - all animals are equal, but someone is more equal
for some reason, the media are hushing up the fact that young people from redan, and not only from it, are fed up with ethnic gangs, which they actually put in their place, and do it right

[evgen1221]

Samsonov such Samsonov. Not in the tooth with a foot in the subject, but the claws are always for climbing with their slogans.

[bk0010]

Quote: evgen1221

Samsonov such Samsonov. Not in the tooth with a foot in the subject, but the claws are always for climbing with their slogans.

This is usually said by those whose failed work was exposed by the article. "You don't understand anything!!!!"

[Horn]

Youth is always and at all times interested in protest. Against anything, but a protest. Against poverty, against wealth, against parents, against politics... Protest for the sake of protest. The cones have not been filled yet, and that's fine. Experience, like impotence, comes with age.
"It's a bad conservative who wasn't a radical in his youth," said Churchill, an intelligent man.

[evgen1221]

Young people are always interested in self-realization for the sake of their own PR, to be talked about. Vyperdrezh of course, but they need it to be noticed and to be more respected and noticed by their peers. The technique of manipulating this energy is perfectly built on this, both to the detriment of the state and to the good. My decorating students are so fond of showing what they did themselves (they painted the facade, built a flower bed, tiled the bathroom, and with pictures of what happened and what happened and with the prefix that I did it, look what a cool person I am! This is very motivating their observations from their own experience. They like it when people talk about them, and it doesn’t matter what they do - vandalize or do something beautiful. And the task of adults is to use it for good. And some kind of insignia to stand out in front of the rest - well, at least a patch - I did this, and please satisfy the child and he will be promoted and will continue to do business with pleasure.

[Guran33 Sergey]

This is just a statement of fact. And a real fact.. BUT!! The state with its nouveaux riches is afraid any protests" because he understands that any protest due to the lack of great goal ahead will inevitably be divided into "right and wrong" and the wrong one will be financed by various (specially created for this) decent funds created with the secret money of various foreign special services, and it's good if there are no more than 10-15% of the entire movement "wrong", then this is a normal political opposition (which doesn’t exist now) then when they hit 35-45 or a split and radicalization of society (their children will go to another Maidan or a swamp, I think by that time they will again bypass at a new level all the existing barriers in financing the right people / movements if there are “wrong” ones under 30%

[malyvalv]

The main thing in working with young people is not to try to sell them what is interesting to you. And to occupy them to the maximum with what is interesting to them. If they want to fight in the mall, no question. We urgently need to organize an all-city inter-school competition. Invite whole schools to cheer "for their own". Organize live broadcasts or at least regular notifications.
Sport is great in terms of education.

[Stas157]

Quote: malyvalv

The main thing in working with youth is not to try vparivat they are interested in you.

You can really vparivat only what interests you.

Quote: malyvalv

And to occupy them to the maximum with what is interesting to them

And if they are interested in drugs and alcohol? This is also needed vparivat or still not?

Really don't need anything vparivat. You need to educate in a good and positive way. And most importantly - to give an opportunity to reveal the talents that lie hidden in each of us.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: malyvalv

The main thing in working with young people is not to try to sell them what is interesting to you. And to occupy them to the maximum with what is interesting to them. If they want to fight in the mall, no question. We urgently need to organize an all-city inter-school competition. Invite whole schools to cheer "for their own". Organize live broadcasts or at least regular notifications.
Sport is great in terms of education.

GENIUS!!! I fully approve!!!
I am 18 years old, they were drafted into the army without exception from all the universities of the USSR, to no one !!! armor was not given throughout the country ...
I'm giving up the session ... In the meantime, I ran to the department of physical education, to clarify when I can take two fights to get a test. Or rather, how - or two fights in boxing - a draw or defeat - it doesn’t matter, or one - if you are a winner - and the offset is in your pocket)))
The coach tells me - today the opponent did not appear for the test with the future rising star (all at our institute in Moscow), now enter the ring right now - I put the test right away, you won’t have to wait, no matter how you lose the fight It’s just that in the heavy weight category, apart from you, I don’t have anyone at hand right now))) Well, I thought - 9 minutes of shame - and the credit is in your pocket, you won’t have to shame yourself 2 times for 9 minutes later))))))))
I entered the ring ... The opponent is a "luber-jock", for him 20+ people in the hall shout chants, and I'm the only one - I didn't even imagine this fight today
Gong... For the first 2 minutes I went into a dead-end defense, and my opponent was thrashing me this way and that way - moreover, flaunting thrashing - he plays for the audience))) I look through gloves - he relaxed. and he is going - but so, beautifully, slowly, to finish me off ... As soon as he starts to beat - I do a dive and a straight left to his head ... he flies away ... The fight is stopped, the doctor is in the ring, my 100 percent victory by knockout + I broke his nose... I still feel sorry for that kid, I didn’t want to break his nose ...

After the battle, I go into the washbasin-shower - there the defeated enemy washes away the blood - they already put a bandage on my nose ... And the whole crowd of "lubers" is assembled ... I think - "PPC kitten" ... It turns out their most important one, stretches out his hands to say hello and says: "The fight was fair, we are witnesses, there are no complaints against you"))) So they parted in peace - that's what sport does to people !!!

[Virus-free crown]

By the way, after 5 years the story with the battle had a continuation)))

In Lyubertsy - this is right near Moscow - they began to rent out premises for warehouses at really ridiculous prices. The authorities sent me there to organize a small such warehouse. On the 3rd day, I curled up "local lads" and let's "roll out the price tag." It almost didn’t come to a fight ... I automatically got into a boxing stance ... Then their chief said:
- Hey, your rho hurts me... your face is familiar!!! Didn't you break our Vasya's nose in the ring?
- Well, I ... He shouldn't have "played in public"! It's his fault!!!
- Boys, stop!!! This is ours!!!

Well, we drank with them for almost two days And they persuaded me in every possible way in their rocking chair to open a boxing section - and I would go as a coach ... They promised all the blessings of the world !!! And then - according to the "lads" - young people fight off the hands, it would be necessary to load them with normal sports)))

I "fought off" coaching ... But no one else approached our warehouse with enemy intentions, sometimes they came to look at me as a miracle-your, who "BREAKED Vasya's nose" They took me like on a tour)))) ))))

[Virus-free crown]

Dedicated to my downers!!!

Anyway, "damn it", how nice that you are already a Celebrity and you are downvoted for any post on any topic

If suddenly you have sons / nephews / grandchildren - try to show them two masterpieces from the times of the USSR:

Film:



Cartoon:



Maybe you will captivate your relatives with this and they will become the new boxing champions!!!

As my two boxing coaches in this life used to say: "Boxing = 80 percent intelligence and 20 percent brute force")))

[Essex62]

This is probably facilitated by the constantly shaken cocktail in the head, with each hit. Stimulate neurons.

[Virus-free crown]

So the boxer's head was given not to hit it - but to think, no matter how the opponent would hit it !!!

[Leader_Barmaleev]

they do not find Yunarmiya attractive

Naturally, it is not interesting and not attractive - instead of a normal game with pyrotechnic effects and capturing the "enemy", the children are once again put into the classroom and some mossy mushroom (which was vigorous and fighting 70 years ago) sadly broadcasts about completely events that are incomprehensible and uninteresting to THIS children, since their ideological coloring is completely different from the modern picture of the world.

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

Why all this nonsense?

You are mistaken and very deeply ...
a vivid image of a character in anime is imprinted in the mind of a child for life ... and this must be taken very seriously.
All small children will now enthusiastically tell you about transformers, spider-man, ant-man, etc. ... and they will remember this all their lives ... and what can you oppose to this from our Russian culture ...nothing...zero...emptiness.
Well, maybe Cheburashka for now.
Here we are outright losing to the Anglo-Saxons ... with a score of 10: 0

[evgen1221]

That's it! In the same anime, there are many talented and relaxed series about different sports, dances and much more. At the same time, in many anime so hated by Samson, the plot and moral message are infinitely deeper and more interesting even for an adult than in stereotyped Western cartoons and films. It would be better if anime was played on channels than a third-rate guano of cartoons and penny serials from the west.

[kalibr]

He should see "Princess Mononoki" ...

[evgen1221]

In general, anyone would have watched to the end at least once for a start!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: evgen1221

In general, anyone would have watched to the end at least once for a start!

[Monster_Fat]

"Princess Mononoke" is quite a complex and heavy anime, especially for children. Too bloody, and cruel...and much in it is inaccessible to the understanding of the child - for example: the assault on the fortress, which is defended by former simpletons...ducks. Well, you need to know a lot of purely Japanese things about mushi, yokai, kitune, it, etc.

[Andrey Moskvin]

All small children will now enthusiastically tell you about transformers, spider-man, ant-man, etc. ... and they will remember this all their lives.
But this is nonsense! Which does not cancel the toothless policy of educating young people in the Russian Federation.

[Essex62]

Well, for some reason, Soyuzmultfilm created several excellent projects - the animated series "Prostokvashino", "Orange Cow", "Princess". They teach kindness, friendship, mutual assistance instills love for animals and beauty in general. My grandson and I watch with pleasure and discuss after.

[ivan2022]

Traditionally, Russian society has always had a large number of obvious psychopaths and idiots. This is the result of a medical problem.

Even the Soviet poet N. Tikhonov wrote "Nails would be made of these people. It would not be stronger than nails in the world" .... This amazing obstinacy of compatriots is a clear sign. Whoever reads typical comments on the Web will agree, unless of course he himself is normal

Perhaps this is caused by a chronic lack of iodine in the diet. Curiously, one of Yeltsin's first decrees was a ban on mandatory iodization of table salt.

Psychopathy is the cause of underdeveloped collective instincts and not the health of society. Hence "atomization" and ways to overcome it artificially. Sometimes with the help of serfdom, sometimes with the help of state coercion.

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

In fact, since 2013, a law has been passed banning the sale of non-iodized table salt in the Russian Federation. BEING forms the consciousness of the masses, not salt with or without iodine

[ivan2022]

The presence of good nutrition is part of life.

Actually, your post is an example of a stubborn lie. What I wrote about. The draft law on mandatory iodization was discussed in the State Duma of the Russian Federation only in 2016. But go to the store and you will see that iodized salt, if sold, is sold separately.
Go to the doctor.

[Sumotori_380]

Separately - how is it? In a secret room? And the seller needs to say a secret word? Or a sign to give? Sells out quite well. I bought it a couple of months ago: here is ordinary salt, here is iodized salt, here is pink Himalayan salt, here is some other one ... Everything is on one rack. Yes, the packs are different and the price tags are different. It is)

[kalibr]

Quote: ivan2022

This amazing obstinacy of compatriots is a clear sign.

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[Lech from Android.]

Quote: evgen1221

Samsonov such Samsonov. Not in the tooth with a foot in the subject, but the claws are always for climbing with their slogans.

Our man ... to give him a competent specialist to help him will scribble the necessary articles like from a Maxim machine gun.

[evgen1221]

They'll fight in an hour! Agitation according to the patterns of the USSR today causes allergies, but Samsonov is otherwise incapable and does not want to understand this, why, and so it will do. And even so, the slogan of today's mainstream of governing the country and the moral education of the population will do. And hint that it doesn’t work, and such Samsons of all ranks and stripes will sit down. A stinker is trying to kill a holy cash cow, fuck him. In general, the harm from Samsonism is more than good. He is useful to admins for the number of comments, but the fact that his propaganda is more harmful does not bother them. In general, if it is forbidden to print Samsonism, other more interesting modern authors will come and not this dull naphthalene

[ivan2022]

There is no one to finance agitation according to the patterns of the USSR now. But agitation according to Goebbels' patterns - oddly enough, they were financed even in the USSR

[Mordvin 3]

And according to modern templates, what kind of agitation? Emptiness. If you take the TV, then there are endless bloody series about bandits and cops, and milkmaids, who all come to Moscow as one and either become successful or find a prince on a white gelding. This is all for those who are from the 80s, 90s, zero. Plus advertising endless banks with the most "profitable" offers. It is not interesting to them. This is generally of little interest to anyone. Where do they sit, on tiktok? And what's in there? And hell knows. All arrived.

[Essex62]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Quote: evgen1221

Samsonov such Samsonov. Not in the tooth with a foot in the subject, but the claws are always for climbing with their slogans.

Our man ... to give him a competent specialist to help him will scribble the necessary articles like from a Maxim machine gun.

They are there and so a whole propaganda team.

[north41]

In general, there is only one conclusion - it is not necessary to drive on the youth. To force them to teach according to the old moldy training manuals who owes what to whom. Young people see perfectly how moneybags fill their pockets and deceive their parents, steal and spit on this country during the NWO. And from tasteless propaganda, young people will be mildly told that they are turned away from it, they simply do not perceive it, they have their own propaganda on their minds that has long been formed "on these Internets of yours", much more interesting and aesthetic than a cheap tricolor flag and a fake concert in Luzhniki. One way or another, it's better to be anime people walking in a harmonious march "For the Glory of Great Russia!!!" than to be in the guise of a false patriot deputy and be one.

[north41]

Quote: sever41

In general, there is only one conclusion - it is not necessary to drive on the youth. To force them to teach according to the old moldy training manuals who owes what to whom. Young people see perfectly how moneybags fill their pockets and deceive their parents, steal and spit on this country during the NWO. And from tasteless propaganda, young people will be mildly told that they are turned away from it, they simply do not perceive it, they have their own propaganda on their minds that has long been formed "on these Internets of yours", much more interesting and aesthetic than a cheap tricolor flag and a fake concert in Luzhniki. One way or another, it's better to be anime people walking in a harmonious march "For the Glory of Great Russia!!!" than to be in the guise of a false patriot deputy and be one.

[north41]

I accidentally projected myself) sorry Administrators.

[Nikolay Malyugin]

Some say we need to take experience from the USSR, others from the Russian Empire. But the trouble is that we have nothing to do with either one or the other. In the USSR, as in the Republic of Ingushetia, there was never a question of working personnel. Now he has risen and dictates that something must be done. Previously, cities grew along with the growth of enterprises. Now they are building because it is profitable. The old village is already filmed on the phone, like a relic of the past. But before, there were enterprises near these villages where the villagers worked. Turner-station wagon has become the rarest profession. And repairmen are also needed. But someone does this, and gets a good salary.

[Mikhail Maslov]

Before you blame the youth, look at yourself. Who are you? Russian or Russian or both. dress and educate. For the most part, everything ends here. Grandparents are also forced to plow to 60-65 instead of giving warmth and love to their children. And at one moment you realize that children are no longer children. These are young people with their own views on life. So it turns out that the problems of youth are, first of all, a complex of problems from a kindergarten to an adult, a mature person.

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: ivan2022

Traditionally, Russian society has always had a large number of obvious psychopaths and idiots. This is the result of a medical problem.

Be careful with such statements ... this double-edged sword ... who knows someone and your personality will come to mind to rank in this category.

[ivan2022]

But the stubborn transition to personalities and the refusal to discuss the fundamental problem is a direct confirmation of what I wrote

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: ivan2022

But the stubborn transition to personalities and the refusal to discuss the fundamental problem is a direct confirmation of what I wrote

It is your stubbornness that confirms what you wrote ...double edged sword.

I'm saying to accuse a lot of people of idiocy and psychopathy is not reasonable.
Be above it.
Look at the topic from different points of view, not just yours.
Moreover, you do not discuss the problem itself, do not offer options for solving it, but immediately, as in the good old 1937, you switched to the topic of an irreconcilable attitude towards a group of people who do not share your point of view.
I also make mistakes sometimes ... but I don’t make a tragedy out of this

[ivan2022]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Quote: ivan2022

But the stubborn transition to personalities and the refusal to discuss the fundamental problem is a direct confirmation of what I wrote

It is your stubbornness that confirms what you wrote ...double edged sword.

I'm saying to accuse a lot of people of idiocy and psychopathy is not reasonable.
Be
I also make mistakes sometimes ... but I don’t make a tragedy out of this

Where are the fundamental objections? You just point your finger at your opponent. Do you understand it?
Once again, this is a confirmation of the fact about which I wrote. Facts are either there or not. They are not intelligent or not intelligent.

Another example!
On the night of December 8-8, 1991, three dudes met in the Bialowieza forest. And an event occurred, to which "no analogues" - the USSR disappeared. In a society inhabited by mentally normal people, such lawlessness could not have happened. This is not the history of the country, but surrealism,...... Illustration for the children's fairy tale by K Chukovsky "Cockroach".

This is a manifestation of mass idiocy, regardless of me or you. Whatever we are. Reasonable or not.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

Another example!
On the night of December 8-8, 1991, three dudes met in the Bialowieza forest. And an event occurred, to which "no analogues" - the USSR disappeared. In a society inhabited by mentally normal people, such lawlessness could not have happened. This is not the history of the country, but surrealism,...... Illustration for the children's fairy tale by K Chukovsky "Cockroach".

This is a manifestation of mass idiocy, regardless of me or you. Whatever we are. Reasonable or not.

How old were you then? Apparently not enough, because you evaluate those events by retelling and lies.
Society reacted calmly to those events, because then there was no talk of any collapse of the state. Just about changing the name, from the USSR to the CIS. And the rest, a single army, customs space, financial system, and so on.
Even the rejection of socialism in favor of capitalism was out of the question.
The state was brought down in stages, in small steps. At the same time, the population, accustomed to trusting the media, was thoroughly brainwashed.

[ivan2022]

Quote: vovochkarzhevsky

How old were you then? As it appears..


Even the rejection of socialism in favor of capitalism was out of the question.
The state was brought down in stages, in small steps. At the same time, the population, accustomed to trusting the media, was thoroughly brainwashed.

Ege .... The USSR seems to have been canceled, but socialism has not been abandoned. No need to lie and fool around according to the old Russian custom: "We slept soundly and didn’t know anything. Well, if we knew, then we would all just get up ....." A normal person can get sick from all these children's quirks.
Now society is getting what it deserves. Don't fool God!


You have not been brainwashed, but you have lost your conscience. The fact that the people are moving towards capitalism, the old people understood back in the 70s and directly said this .....

[Vladimir80]

Or you can look at this problem from the other side (specifically about redan) - this is a small (!) Movement of well-fed teenagers (one child in the family, parents give money for any city ... but) is not very different from other similar former in large cities in the last 30 years (there were Tolkienists, and Goths, and fans of garipoters, etc.), all of them are not particularly viable, not useful, but not dangerous, as it seems to me. The ideology is primitively teenage, there is no physical training. Now it is easier for them to "unite" thanks to social networks and TG channels than before
PS Ideology in the country should be!!!

[Stas157]

. The entire youth policy in the Russian Federation has failed.

How to educate the youth if there is no national idea as such?

Raised the ideal consumer. And then we are surprised - why is it that huge crowds of young people rushed abroad with the beginning of mobilization?

[Poru4ik]

But in general, in the Russian Federation in the last 30-plus years, has anything been "not a failure"?

[Boris55]

Quote: A. Samsonov

The government has nothing to offer them.

The question is fundamentally wrong.
The state should not guess the "Wishlist" of the youth - it is obliged to form them!

[bk0010]

Quote: Boris55

The state should not guess the "Wishlist" of the youth - it is obliged to form them!

Since the middle of the 20th century, the state has not been able to do this. Every time he breaks off, even intimidation did not help (see how hippies and other informals were driven in the USSR).

[Mixweb]

There is no point as long as the power is in the hands of the current cliques. Everything will rest on the cut. Everything. The rest of the nouveaux riches are not interested. And this is at all levels of government. As an example, I can cite the situation of one of the schools in my district. This is the countryside. The head of the district administration comes to the school. He says to the director, they say, do you know WHO studied here? (And our current governor studied at school for a short time). And he ordered (orally, of course) to pay for the use of the gym for competitions. Children and adults from all over the region come to sports events there. That is, it practically nullified the desire to hold any competitions at all.
And so everywhere. Any initiative of the people, if it is successful, the bureaucrats will try to use to pump money.

[VORON538]

What kind of village, in what region? This is not secret information, I suppose?

[Mixweb]

Kirovsky district of the Stavropol Territory. Unfortunately, the notifications never got fixed. Google about our head, a former junkie.

[Sotskiy]

....We were building a society of the future, a society of knowledge, service and creation. fair society.....

That's it.
What have we been "building" for 30 years already, a society divided into classes according to property, but for the same as "partners"?
And where in this "fair" society, then, is there a place for the young, in the "we are together" movement?
Together who? Wolves and sheep?
So the youth are clustered in clubs according to "interests" according to the class about "ranks".

[parusnik]

a society divided into classes on the basis of property

What do "golden youth" have in common with young people who have to earn extra money after school? What do you and I have in common with the Russian oligarchs?

[Sotskiy]

Quote: parusnik

What do you and I have in common with the Russian oligarchs?

We are all citizens of the Russian Federation.
True, we: "only", and they: "including", but this does not prevent us from being "together", right?

[parusnik]

but that doesn't stop us from being "together

"Everyone says that we are together, everyone says, but few know in what" (c)

[DefenderofTruth]

What did they take in the Stalinist USSR? There was an idea - a big, common cause! We were building a society of the future, a society of knowledge, service and creation. Just society. The cult of knowledge and creativity. Focus on the future. Gliders, airplanes, motorcycles, exciting competitions. The depths of the ocean and space. All this was consolidated by the real achievements of the national economy, science and technology.

The image of the future, the way of life is given by ideology.
What kind of future can we even talk about if Article 13 of the colonial Constitution of the Russian Federation of 1993, imposed by the victors of the Cold War, contains a complete ban on state ideology, a complete ban on the future?

[samarin1969]

And why does Russia need a "youth policy"? All you need is politics. The state should channel the energy of young people into small business and demanded education. Unfortunately, the entire policy of the "humanist fathers" of the Russian Federation is aimed at creating a layer of "Mitrofanushki". Now there is no "batino" "stick", no "carrots" in the form of a social lift for educated people.
By their development, modern children have been (illegally) earning money since the age of 14, helping the family: working in gardens, reselling scrap metal, trying to work in trade and as waitresses, etc. Others are trying to break through sports and art. 95% of school activities are a waste of time for them. Algebra, general history and "educational measures", etc., bring only suffering for themselves, parents and teachers.
The state should legalize, support the energy of the young, and not raise infantile hypocrites and consumers of social programs.

[Klaus8691]

We don’t have a politician in our country even close in level to I. V. Stalin. And those who do have children don’t really love their country. And I think that's why talking heads like Mizulina are imposing their vision of the youth movement on us. Like, here you must (must) do everything for the sake of your Motherland (work, fight, etc.), and our children (deputies, businessmen and other riffraff) should receive all the "buns" in the form of a beautiful life. Excuse me for expressing my vision so chaotically, but these "teachers" have already got tired of how we live and what to do.

[SergioPetrov]

The author forgot to add about the conditions in which people were in those very 30s and what happened to those who rejoiced at the construction of a new world not actively enough

[parusnik]

All these newborn youth formations "Ours" and others were stillborn, initially. To create something in the Soviet image and likeness is initially doomed. It is not possible to create a mass youth movement in a capitalist society. Yes, and there are no similar organizations in the West. When was the last world festival of youth and students? That's the same.

[saygon66]

Ambiguous! The hippie movement that arose in the States was massive ... and so much so that it worried the authorities ... and the authorities made every effort to reduce the hippies to nothing.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: saygon66

The hippie movement that originated in the States

Didn't the Vietnam war dodgers become hippies?

[bandabas]

about the education of youth. 1986 Perestroika has not yet been announced, a wonderful film-musical "Above the Rainbow" has appeared. A year later, Bullseye began to sell the country for advertising pizza. And the films have changed.

[north 2]

out of the care and control of the Soviet youth, not only the Gagarins, but also the Gorbachevs and the Yeltsins grew up. So the Soviet experience for imitation of youth policy is also not without sin.
But I compared two concerts in "The Apartment at Margulis" - Makarevich to his vomit on Russia and Russians, and after about a couple of months Rasteryaev's concert. And I just now realized that Rasteryaev's youth audience will sit at the helms of combines and tanks to feed and protect the Motherland, and Makarevich's audience will continue to shit on the Motherland from abroad, where they will give a shit if they are not allowed to do this in Russia. And you will not remake this audience of Makarevich with any control or any care. But not all of them
they gave a tear from Russia. How many more of them rub on TV and film studios.

[samarin1969]

Quote: north 2

But I compared two concerts in "The Apartment at Margulis" - Makarevich to his vomit on Russia and Russians, and after about a couple of months Rasteryaev's concert

A rare person from a public society, a personality. With independent views. Truly an example for the youth. He was surprised that Margulis invited him.

[parusnik]

that the youth audience of Rasteryaev will sit at the helms of combines

In our district, he won’t sit at the helms of combine harvesters. For one simple reason, all four specialized educational institutions have been liquidated. They no longer train machine operators and related specialties in our country.

[Essex62]

And we have the opposite. And machine operators are being trained, for imported equipment and the agricultural technical school is functioning again. Much depends on the head of the district. Asphalt was laid everywhere, even in barely preserved villages, in five houses. In the village there are traffic lights, solar-powered, a pay phone. The people, though in the old fashioned way, along the main street, right along the markings, are rushing to Pyaterochka.

[Sumotori_380]

And if Igor Makarevich himself listens? P.S. You are simplifying. A person can listen to both. Moreover, it is rare when you like all the work of the author. You can, for example, be a fan of Alice, but not love the Sky of the Slavs. And vice versa.

[Unknown]

In today's RF, no youth policy in sight .What is meant by this term? In the USSR, the ideas of Anton Semenovich Makarenko, who was recognized in 1988 by UNESCO as one of the four outstanding teachers of the world, were promoted. Many considered his system cruel, inappropriate, but he proved to critics that it really works, you can’t argue here, he had to deal not just, as they say with “difficult teenagers”, but juvenile delinquents. His views are still relevant today.

“If you do not cultivate the habit of overcoming long-term difficulties, I have the right to say that you do not cultivate anything”

How can you disagree with such a statement. Hence this

Want to corrupt the soul of your child? Then don't refuse him anything. And over time, you will understand that you are not growing a person, but a crooked tree.

And you can't really argue. Or girls...

In the matter of re-education, there is nothing more difficult than girls who have been in the hands. No matter how long a boy hangs out on the street, no matter how difficult and illegal adventures he participates in, no matter how he bristles against our pedagogical interference, but if he has - even the smallest - intellect, in a good team he will always come out as a person. . This is because this boy, in essence, only lags behind, his distance from the norm can always be measured and filled. The girl, who began to live sexually early almost in childhood, not only lagged behind - both physically and spiritually, she bears a deep trauma.

. In Soviet times, they taught from school, the team is strength, all together, they can achieve a lot, and Makarenko said “The task of our education is to educate a collectivist” In the late USSR, and after its collapse, they began to educate differently .. Individualism, today, is also one of the foundations of success...Here we went along this path, and with songs. Result on the face. No matter how, the main thing is more money, there will be money, everything will be. What cannot be bought with money can be bought with a lot of money. That's the whole ideology. But our children, who are not blind, see what we adults do not notice in everyday worries. I have four, and I know how difficult it is sometimes to answer seemingly simple questions. The elders have grown up and have already found the answers, and when we meet they say, you were right, dad, life is not a field to cross, you will see and learn a lot.

[Dmitry_Semashko]

They do not want to live in Russia because it is impossible to apply oneself here. Industry and science have been destroyed under Putin's rule. And he wants to go for another term. So this total hopelessness will continue for another 6 years. I remember saying the same thing in 2010. That Putin will be in Russia all my active life. Someone, for example, has a talent for car design, others want to create clothes, others want to build airplanes. So where do they go??? In Russia, only prosecutors, judges and OBEPovtsy, in short, corrupt officials, have success. Russia will not offer you any business, any stable creative work. As Gaidar once said: "Russia needs 15-20 million people to extract oil / gas and maintain the pipeline, Russia does not need the rest." He said it and he was branded with shame. But Putin DOES it and you can't even criticize him. Miracles….

[alexey_444]

I will tell you all over the world if you have connections with prosecutors, measures and other elites, then you will have more opportunities for realization and nowhere in the world do they groan like we do, give me opportunities, people just get married, get married, become friends with people of the elite, and then, having already received a name, they achieve what they want. Therefore, in the west there is competition, that there is competition everywhere, people are hardened fighters over their heads, but in our country. As in a fairy tale, everyone wants to lie on the stove and that the state would bring work on a silver platter. Already 30 years have passed since Western propaganda, how many people have already sipped Western opportunities to wash toilets, and our country is still full of dreamers.

[Patriot228]

In our opinion, it’s impossible, but all sorts of Rogozins have an excellent plan, for example, our use, we must work for a salary. which is enough for food and clothing, and they will manage us with the "gentlemen", divide between their posts, government contracts, etc. Well, as usual, because. management skill is a skill for the elite, blue blood, and they will receive 80 lyams a year like Dmitry Olegovich and they will fly to Germany as a reseller despite the sanctions or like Kobzon for treatment, and we will try to get through to an ambulance waiting for them to finally pick up the phone . This is the view of all people in power. We must work for rations, they must reign and their children must reign. Something like a caste system is being formed, like in ancient times in India. So Redan is just flowers. It is difficult to feed young people who have a head and have the Internet and have YouTube and access to books to which the state restricted access in the USSR with this "piggy" stuff. Anyone can go to YouTube and see how their peers live in other countries, about their schools, leisure, etc.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Let's be honest. We began to win the battle for children with the advent of children's cartoons by the Melnitsa studio about heroes, and later about the gray wolf. Later, creative teams joined in the defense of traditional values ​​with short cartoons about Smeshariki and Masha and the Bear. Today's Fixies, Barboskins and others lose first by an order of magnitude.
This is not the main thing.
The main thing is that, having won at the level of kindergarten age, we could not offer anything to teenagers. Does anyone remember the last domestic teen movie? Adventures Electronics, Children of Captain Grant, Scarecrow!!! All this is the distant USSR.
What can be shown to a child for education today? Where is the animation with meaning at the level of Captain Vrungel or Treasure Island?
Damn, the most patriotic computer game is the World of Tanks, where even the balance of Soviet cars is pushed into a corner for the sake of foreign paper ones.
In a word, sad.

[parusnik]

What can be shown to a child for education today?

"The president's granddaughter", "The geographer drank away the globe"

[evgen1221]

Do not worry, this layer successfully replaces Japanese and Chinese anime. Whoever wants dirt finds it, and many watch romance and comedy.

[Vladimir80]

What can be shown to a child today for education

here are old Soviet films and show them to teenagers, I know from experience that all these films are great (if there are no class "muddies"), well, the serial ones are completely boring (P.E. and G.i.B)

[All_Good]

And the youth policy is another proof that it is time for the current government to go to the dump. We'll fall apart faster with them than without. Billionaires are sitting at the top, around whom we supposedly should rally. Why would

[- = SADKO = -]

Hehehehe, but look at it from a different angle, greed, self-righteousness and creative impotence could explain a lot, however, there is a limit to the survival of the organization, but our Titanic is floating in a strange way, although it would seem ...
... maybe the cultural and other politics here are no less special than that military operation and / or reaction to it, which he still wins back ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: -=SADKO=-

our Titanic is floating in a strange way, although it would seem ...

In the time frame of world history, our Titanic sails quite a bit, and whether it ran into an iceberg in the form of Ukraine with NATO, time will tell.

[Maks1995]

Again for all the good, against all the bad .. Like Putin's message ..
But I read a similar speech from some director at the Goblin about 5 years ago. What changed?
Nothing is visible. Only, IMHO, it got worse. Non-Russian speech and swearing on the street has become more.

A generation has come who have grown up in lies, and the children of Tajiks and Uzbeks who have arrived, who do not need all this school, circles, propaganda, youth army.

[Igor1915]

And why is a conditional Uzbek worse than a Russian? - because he doesn't drink vodka? - it's not about nationality, if you want to live among some Russians, then you will live in Muscovy of the 12th century

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Igor1915

if you want to live among some Russians, then you will live in Muscovy of the 12th century

40 years ago, I lived almost exclusively among Russians, except that Georgians traded watermelons in the market.

[Igor1915]

Including this, your and my country lost 6th part of the territory and half of the population, as a result it became better?? And then they said the RSFSR feeds everyone - down with them - then we will live! And now they say there is nothing to feed the regions - so the whole country will be destroyed

[Maks1995]

Conditional Uzbek - no worse.
And a particular Uzbek-makes life in the country worse.
Because he doesn't need it all around here. He needs to earn money and go to Tajikistan.

And the new government does not need to think about the quality of life and labor, technology, mechanization, quality ...
I got a cheap driver, builders, saleswomen, anyway they can’t feed their families here ..

Let them live in a Chinatown, unsanitary conditions, cramped conditions, and unfasten their share ...

[Igor1915]

Yes, they come, but not necessarily to leave later, someone will stay here. Usually the most energetic and hardworking people come - otherwise why go? The desire to modernize something depends very little on the workers, but depends on the specific person

[saygon66]

By the way, they themselves believe that those who have not been able to find employment at home go to work ...

[rotkiv04]

until there is a state ideology, an idea, there will be NOTHING, but the trouble is that the current Kremlin leadership is simply not able to offer this idea to society due to the fact that they themselves do not believe in Russia and the Russian world

[parusnik]

until there is a state ideology

Yes, there is she, anti-Soviet. Without her, Kolya from Urengoy would not have been born.

[Igor1915]

As a father of 3 children (22, 10,5) I'll put in my 5 kopecks. There is no national youth policy from the word at all. What can replace it - this is a personal example of parents, but here is a dilemma - most are now focused on making maximum money, which excludes the time that a parent can devote to communicating with a child. The time that he does not spend with the child will be taken by someone else.

[Vladimir80]

It’s not easy, of course, but you need to find a compromise between earning money and talking with children ... because you can’t bring them up as normal people with phones, jeans and set-top boxes ...

[Igor1915]

So it is, but you understand that someone will earn a conditional 30 tons per month, someone will earn it in 5 minutes, and as far as I see, there are not very many children who earn a lot

[alexey_444]

Written by a student of a loser, well, like the cries of the West that the shells end in dill, so that the state replenishes the pockets of the military-industrial complex. You can write about ideas and any bullshit. Now in the world there is only one idea to achieve the maximum, to live in the present no matter in which country. It’s adults who can’t control their brains all the time, don’t eat food with all sorts of things, live their own lives, and so on. youth (it was originally built into it for the evolution of the species, to do it contrary to common adult sense, they have an underestimated sense of fear, etc.) is vulnerable to hype, the zebra effect from the Madagascar cartoon. And nowhere in the world is it possible to make caring for an old grandmother hype, even among Caucasians. Look at the surveys of young people in countries where there is no way to cut (the liberals got sick of their Mantra) money for youth policy, the majority, even in well-fed countries, want to leave the country in search of themselves. This is a long-term work of the capitalists, they know how to work on mistakes, so that it would not be like the Second World War to spend wagons on the export of slave power, but that slave power itself, spitting on families, hearing cheese like Roquefort from another cartoon, rushed anywhere but just not to bring income to the social sphere of the native states. This does not mean that you don’t have to do anything, but only the main upbringing takes place in the family, naturally in a family where mom has the same thoughts about nails and shopping, dad has tanks or booze with friends, then no education programs will fix anything. But if at least a part of it is carried away, then it is worth spending money on it.

[Ghost1]

Time is a good teacher and you can see what all these effective local managers are worth. There are people who are engaged in youth policy in the country, they constantly talk about it with lofty demands. But as you can see, no work went on or was not done as it should. And so wherever you go, time has shown everywhere that the managers are terrible, except for showing off, little that went on.

[Vladimir80]

you can see what all these effective managers are worth

and I remember who else 10-15 years ago whined every year about the lack of competent managers in the country, that we need more and more of them (ladies and gref)

[Rome]

Anime captivates teenagers and this is temporary, then it passes and children do not even remember about anime! Mine grew up and forgot, while they were addicted, my wife and I slightly corrected their hobbies, just being interested in what the film was about, expressed our opinion, indicated where the meaning was not very good and the children listened! We gave them Anime and the children were grateful and listened to our opinion.
Our state does not have its own idea of ​​the future, therefore it cannot captivate the youth, there is nothing stupid! We have a liberal country, like every man for himself, the main thing we have today is economic efficiency.

[Non-fighter]

We must start from the head, that is, from the elite. He does not have children himself, but there is a clear understanding that we, society as a whole, are equal to the elite, and strive for its way of life.
What do we have? But in fact we have a fascist society in which the elite do not care about the rest of the people, as long as they earn money. Until our elite harnesses itself to the common cart that is dragging our entire society, does not sit on the oars ("we are all in the same boat"), at least defiantly, our future is bleak. And the youth, our children, see all this perfectly and draw conclusions.

[parusnik]

And in fact we have a fascist society

Not only in our country, in the world. And this has already happened. Let's remember the pre-war years. Let's go over the European countries. in Vichy. After the defeat. Germany-Hitler. Balkans-Yugoslavia, then after the coup. more or less, but dared. Greece, as in France. Romania-Antonescu regime, Bulgaria-Tsar Boris and his regime. Poland-Pilsudski, died but the regime left. The Baltics are the same fascist regimes. Finland, the same, despite the fact that the Social Democrats were in power. More or less, it was in Belgium, Holland, Sweden, Denmark, Czechoslovakia. In Austria, also fascist regime. In Norway, it was moving towards this. Even in England, fascism was gaining strength, they did not have time to come to power, and then there was the Second World War, local capitalists, the project was curtailed.

[Non-fighter]

Well, Hitler and others just don’t need to be entered here, in _THIS_ picture. In Germany, the dividing line between "us" and "them" ran along the line of the nation. We, the real Aryans, are Ubermenshi, the rest are rabble, at best worthy of serving us. Hitler just wanted to build a homogeneous society in Germany. Here, in our version, the watershed runs along the line of wealth. Remember the famous "Who does not have a million dollars is nobody"? At the same time, remember who said it.
And as for the fact that mostly young people leave for emigration, firstly from every teapot and iron we hear "Here you will not achieve anything", and secondly that "there" everything depends on you, on your diligence, knowledge and talents, and even Give examples of successful people. True, in real life it turns out that there are only a few successful emigrants there, and if you want to succeed "there", then you must be at least a head taller than a "local" who was born and raised in the country where you came.

[polk26l]

Why not start building a renewed socialism?! It is most suitable for a Russian person and for Russia as a whole, with its sense of justice!!! And you need to start with an updated Socialist ideology and Constitution! Use the experience of the 30s - 40s of the USSR and China, starting from the 2000s! Youth need dreams and plans to achieve those dreams! You don't have to be afraid of it! In Russia, this theme and justice, taking into account the development of the theme of patriotism, should work!!!

[Mol_18]

why not start building a renewed socialism?!

And what are they doing with our oligarchs and the bourgeoisie, if you build a renewed socialism, you will have to socialize, i.e. be nationalized, at least in such industries: oil and gas carriers, the military-industrial complex and everything connected with it, that is, at least what constitutes the backbone of the state. And for our authorities, it will be like death if young people talk about justice and at the same time do not see it around them. They will have contradictions and consequently lead to the creation of circles of revolutionaries.

[Pilot]

To start building a renewed socialism, there must be people at the top with such convictions and plans. The current crooks from the 90s. this is not only unnecessary but also hostile. And at the behest of a pike, everything is done only in a fairy tale.

[antiaircrafter]

Why is Japanese anime, elements of the culture of Japan, Korea or China more attractive than the official youth movements of the Russian Federation or Ukraine?

Because Russian culture is pushed into a corner or represented by cartoons like Masha and the Bear.

[Sumotori_380]

Masha and the bear is a wonderful cartoon. Promoting a positive image of Russia in the world. with clear moral messages. What's debilitating there? The theory of relativity is not stated? Or the foundations of Marxism-Leninism?

[Mol_18]

According to polls, half of the youth wants to go to the West as soon as they can. After all, the West gives them the image of freedom, the American dream. There are also projects aimed at the future, and not a project of a universal “pipe”, as in the Russian Federation. Even in the Arab monarchies, cities of the future are being built.

Relative is 17 years old. So this person is sure that nothing has been invented or created in our country in its entire history. If only you knew his surprise when I showed him what the Soviet Union was creating: Mriya, Spaceships, how the USSR and the USA conquered space, what works of art in the military sphere these giants created, what aircraft in the civil sphere. And he asked me why the USSR was destroyed, if we were on the same level as the USA, and you could see his surprise when I showed him everything. And there are a certain number of such individuals among young people who do not even know what they created 40 years ago.

[Plate]

I'm already wondering what you answered the question about the collapse of the USSR? I hope it’s not a cliché about a few traitors in power who alone are to blame for everything?
In general, your story is somehow exaggerated. At the age of 17, already at school, they told me about Gagarin, and about the Soviet arsenal of weapons with a whole bunch of innovative designers, and about Popov, and about Mendeleev (for some reason you modestly kept silent about pre-Soviet achievements, right?), And about Pirogov .. .

[Mol_18]

I'm already wondering what you answered the question about the collapse of the USSR? I hope it’s not a cliché about a few traitors in power who alone are to blame for everything

I told him about the fact that the USSR became:
1. The CPSU, namely its top, became old, just physically, and began to die out, and no one could come to replace people like Kosygin, Gromyko.
2. The crisis of the socialist system began, fatigue from the arms race, if they were created in the military and heavy industry, then the light industry degraded.
3. The Komsomol became bourgeois.
4. Also national problems, the same New Front, which was created under the slogans of helping perestroika, for example in Latvia, flowed into an organization that advocated secession from the USSR, and the anti-Soviet movement very soon turned into a Russophobic one. It was also in the Caucasus.
There were a number of objective reasons that could have been avoided or smoothed out.

You modestly kept silent about pre-Soviet achievements, yes

No, he didn’t keep silent, and he told about Sikorsky and Yablochkov.

At the age of 17, already at school, they told me about Gagarin and about the Soviet arsenal of weapons with a whole bunch of innovative designers

So you had a desire to study it and you were interested in studying it.

[Plate]

So if your relative did not have a desire, then where did it suddenly appear during your stories?
However, I do not deny that there may be such a teacher who will discourage interest even in the most interesting subject, but I personally had 2-3 of these for the whole school.

[Mol_18]

So if your relative had no desire

After all, it is key that a person would have a desire to study all this. Or at least, so that the basics are taught at school, and it is not a shame to listen from the mouths of some complete heresy that you catch Spanish shame for them. We still have acute problems of education. Indeed, from next year, it returns to the literary program: How steel was tempered, Young Guard, Hot snow - and this is just great and wonderful, and even better for the schoolchild to read it, but at the same time there will be Solzhenitsyn in the school curriculum, so contradictions can creepy surging teenagers who will read this, but there is one "but" - whether they will read it at all.

[Plate]

To be honest, a lot of literature was not interesting to read. Well, I didn't read. Paragraphs on physics, history, biology... were read because it was clear and obvious that they contained useful information, which was also interesting in many respects.
To draw historical information from works of art, whatever it may be, this is generally such an idea, in my opinion. If you want to immerse yourself, feel it, then perhaps yes, this method is good. But I personally do not consider this important in the study of a particular era. In general, I still don’t take fiction seriously. For example, I read "The Master and Margarita" in a day or two, taking it as a cool joke with a cool Behemoth, jokes about the 5th dimension and some weirdos. And in literature they began to tell me that there are "serious" thoughts, it turns out, and Pilate is generally a projection of Stalin (how!).

[Mol_18]

Because some works do not go according to the age of a person and his life experience. And so it seems that he is boring and tedious and nothing interesting about him.

[ivan2022]

Quote: Mol_18

I told him about the fact that the USSR became:
1. The CPSU, namely its top, became old, just physically, and began to die out, and to replace people like Kosygin, Gromyko ....

I would also understand about the royal boyars that they have become old, but if the party leaders in elected positions have become old .... and they cannot choose new ones .... Then this is more likely a mass insanity in the "wide .. people ... masses ..".... eklmn.... To be like that is Destiny!

[Patriot228]

So he is right, it was invented by everyone in the USSR, and not by YOU in the country. The USSR has very little in common with today's Russia.

[would]

Well, based on what you wrote, he is absolutely right. From your post it appears that in our country nothing was invented or created, everything was invented and created in another country called the USSR.

[Tim666]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

All small children will now enthusiastically tell you about transformers, spider-man, ant-man, etc. ... and they will remember this all their lives.
But this is nonsense! Which does not cancel the toothless policy of educating young people in the Russian Federation.

I wonder who you are to decide what is nonsense and what is not?
This is nonsense for you, and for them, nonsense is what you want to offer them, study hard, work hard, don’t listen to rock and punk, believe many and study well and work and get carried away from anime and this is wonderful. You get a kind of miserable gray world.

[Tim666]

Quote: polk26l

Why not start building a renewed socialism?! It is most suitable for a Russian person and for Russia as a whole, with its sense of justice!!! And you need to start with an updated Socialist ideology and Constitution! Use the experience of the 30s - 40s of the USSR and China, starting from the 2000s! Youth need dreams and plans to achieve those dreams! You don't have to be afraid of it! In Russia, this theme and justice, taking into account the development of the theme of patriotism, should work!!!

Since the 2000s, young people in China have been plowing for 16 hours a day. The experience of 1937 and the great cultural revolution will be especially valuable)

[ivan2022]

Quote from Tim666

Since the 2000s, young people in China have been plowing for 16 hours a day. The experience of 1937 and the great cultural revolution will be especially valuable)

Some are hindered by thieves and traitors, while others are not only the ideas of justice, but also their own eggs ..... To each his own.

[Plate]

I didn’t think that these heroes of Internet memes would get to VO.

[Vadim S]

Yes, and you don’t need to do anything anymore, it’s useless and no one will! Probably it’s really better to reset everything and something new will grow. And no, well, that means it's for the best.

[Cucumbers]

You can always find something you like. And there is no need to pester young people. For example, the guys and I worked on motorcycles. They disassembled, assembled, drove. We started with bicycles, then mopeds. And they also dug for the French and the war. It was interesting. Nobody advertised it on TV. Now that everyone has gadgets, young people have become a little lazy. And there were fights in our time. District to district. At discos, on dance floors

[Daniel Mikheev]

There is no need to promote fights. Moreover, massive ones - district to district, etc. Nowadays young people are not stupid: why wave your fists when you can use a gun. For example, I will immediately fire mine in case of any aggression: I don’t have any stupid moral restrictions.

[AdAstra]

Even though I’m from a late age, I liked being an October kid, despite what they say about boneiness, etc. and I really regret that I didn’t manage to become a pioneer, a Komsomol member, because the original ideas of all this, whatever one may say, were good.

[Andrey Andreev_2]

Previously, the state guaranteed free education, free housing, free medicine, distributed work, a real absence of poverty for workers, free pre-school institutions, conditional equalization (at least with personal yachts, submarines, airplanes, etc. no one boasted)... No one boasted. I didn’t show off my palaces and for saying that I have a bigger toilet than these (shuvals) have apartments I would have been immediately imprisoned... Patriotism was brought up on these postulates! What now? The whole country is hunched over a bunch of assholes! Young people see this, aren’t they bad? What do they see in the future: predatory mortgages and a struggle for survival? Who will be interested in this?

[Vladimir80]

The whole country is hunched over a bunch of shit......

do you really think so? and I think 40% of workers don’t pay taxes at all... and what kind of bunch of “bad guys” are they who were able to deceive, rob and enslave such brave, honest, hard-working, sober, kind, well-mannered, cultured and educated Russians?

Previously, the state guaranteed...

in the USSR there was a lot of good and worthy things at a certain stage of development - but this is only the merit of people born from 1890 to 1930. (approximately), the merit of people who grew up in difficult times, overcame enormous difficulties and hardships!
"hard times give birth to strong people, strong people lead the country to easy times; easy times give birth to weak people..."
And many of today's problems have their roots in Soviet times!

[NetKeys]

Let's clarify. Previously, this was in the USSR. Then everyone wanted to go to the barricades, rallies, beat the scoop, cheer for market relations and wealth. We will destroy the whole world to the ground, and then... The people and the “elites” happily merged the country. Now we have had consequences for many years. And young people again want to go to the barricades and fight on the Maidan.

[Patriot228]

Yes, this work with young people will not work against the backdrop of total hypocrisy. Young people vote out of the country with their feet if the country does not provide opportunities for self-realization, if all social elevators are closed. What does Russia offer to a young man of 18? To beg for 5 years while studying at a technical university, creating an increased burden on parents, in order to then beg for 5 years while working as an engineer until at least 70-100 tr. salary will he grow up? And then live for another 10 years limiting yourself in everything in order to save for a mortgage? Young people see their European peers living in beautiful cities and warm climates, in beautiful clothes, with politicians who defend the interests, if not of them, but at least of their parents, and not in ours who constantly broadcast about the greatness of Russia, but children, apartments and medical care. They prefer to have service in Europe. What will this lead to, yes, I would say it has already led. To total denial, young people do not believe a single word.

[Radical]

Quote: Nikanor1993

Yes, they know how to beautifully decompose some moments. At one time he was carried away by the work of Demyanka, and Comrade Remy just popularizes it. The only pity is that these figures spend time analyzing lies (even when I was studying the archipelago, I came across Tomasz Rzhezych's book "Solzhenitsyn's Spiral of Treason", in which Isaech's story is decomposed starting from his studies at school). So, as for me, there would be more analyzes on the history of the Civil War and the history of the party, and it would be absolutely cool.

The surname of the author of the book “Solzhenitsyn’s Spiral of Betrayal” is RzhezAch.

[Knell wardenheart]

“... they are not interested in the dusty Komsomol in a new wrapper, they are not interested in imitations of activity, they are not interested in concerts with Gazmanov, they do not find Yunarmiya attractive. They want a live, real case where they can feel that they are almost adults and that they are useful.

Everything is generally true except the last one - these kids don’t want the “real thing”, they want to participate in a beautiful and epic simulation, so that, like in an MMORPG, they can lick the horn, once or twice, and then go offline as they get tired.
What does all this Japaneseness give to shkolota (and not only)? The richness of being. This is not a matter of some mythical “spirituality” or “lack of spirituality” - our own existence has lost its richness of colors, everything has faded.
The state has chosen a restrictive and prohibitive line within our already extremely conservative society, and even in times when movement, restructuring and change are required. And it didn’t choose yesterday - this has been happening for 15 years, perhaps more.
When this happens for so many years, some illusions about “change through participation” are transformed among the masses into a variety of things. Basically - indifference. Many are trying to find those niches where there will be their value system and freedom for their activities - and they frankly don’t give a damn about how society treats this, whether it considers it useful, etc. They themselves do not see anything useful and constructive in the society around them. This, by the way, is where the phenomenon of xenophobia comes from.
Well, if they ban this garbage, they will get hooked on some other stuff and go “deeper” into the substrate.
How to deal with this?) But no way)) You see, there is a cause - and there is a consequence.
This “movement” is not a cause or some “increasing destructive phenomena threatening blablablaa” - it is a consequence of those very “increasing destructive phenomena” on a societal scale.

As for “we need an idea so that there is no lack of spirituality” - there is (0), this is called “lack of idea”, there is (1) - this is, in fact, an idea. And in our case - (-1), because some inflated monstrous piles of rules are strangling in our country both any ideas and any manifestations of them.
What is called a certain “lack of spirituality” in our society is actually not the result of the fact that the “idea” must be given from above, but the result of the fact that “over there” they have frankly excessive power over things, unable to solve the material problems of society (already, damn it, more than 100 years), but capable of “marinating” its freedoms of all spectrums, both through prohibitions and through general regulation and direction, which collectively deprive the array of activities of the lion’s share of its creative, vital beginning.

[Daniel Mikheev]

The author is good at stealing ideas from M. Kalashnikov. He has been talking about this for 2-3 decades.

[Tim666]

Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka

Let's be honest. We began to win the battle for children with the advent of children's cartoons by the Melnitsa studio about heroes, and later about the gray wolf. Later, creative teams joined in the defense of traditional values ​​with short cartoons about Smeshariki and Masha and the Bear. Today's Fixies, Barboskins and others lose first by an order of magnitude.
This is not the main thing.
The main thing is that, having won at the level of kindergarten age, we could not offer anything to teenagers. Does anyone remember the last domestic teen movie? Adventures Electronics, Children of Captain Grant, Scarecrow!!! All this is the distant USSR.
What can be shown to a child for education today? Where is the animation with meaning at the level of Captain Vrungel or Treasure Island?
Damn, the most patriotic computer game is the World of Tanks, where even the balance of Soviet cars is pushed into a corner for the sake of foreign paper ones.
In a word, sad.

Those who play on American, English, German cars will say the same thing about Tanks, only about their own) And why should Soviet cars in a world game be frightened? By the way, they are just as paper as the others. If you want realism, play War Thunder, everything there is almost like in life, and the T-34-85 cannon doesn’t hit the Tiger in the forehead. And how did they scold Smesharikov and Masha and the Bear? Fixies, by the way, is a very good cartoon. With films for children and youth, of course, there is now a complete mess, but if they start producing them of the same quality as 80-90% of the productions of domestic cinema, then it’s better not to. To be honest, I don’t see anything wrong with the fact that children watch Western cartoons; in a union they showed both Disney and Japanese cartoons and watched them with pleasure; for the most part, all cartoons do not bring anything bad. It’s still physically impossible to replace such an amount of content, the audience is too different in size, Well, only if you start churning out really low-grade trash.

[Patriot228]

In my opinion, Redan is generally a threat to the whole “Russian” where you can beat a person just like that, put on your shoes, some aunts and old people start reprimanding you for your appearance or stupid people from vocational schools and children of drunks with an 8th grade education. The teenagers were imbued with the spirit of democracy and freedom and began to fight back against all sorts of “gopniks” who consider themselves to have the right to present something to someone. They look at the USA and Europe, where such behavior (attacks, fights) can ruin your life immediately and for a long time. There have always been people who did not just allow themselves to be beaten by gopniks and others who believe that “we can beat people.” Today he doesn’t allow himself to be beaten by a stupid gopnik, but tomorrow try to force such a “conscript” to serve in the army, it won’t work... That’s why the state organizes “raids” on them.

[Vladimir80]

. The teenagers were imbued with the spirit of democracy and freedom and began to fight back against all sorts of “gopniks”

Sounds like a Hollywood Oscar winning movie script!!!

[Ross xnumx]

No bans can solve this problem. As well as the creation of new formal organizations.

In the built model of Russian society it is impossible to solve a single problem!
What could Mr. Kiriyenko talk about at the youth forum “Territory of Meanings - 2022”, if the youth present at it under the age of 24-25 could not know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about his activities at the EBN in 1998, nor about his merits? for which “someone” decided to make him a Hero of Russia.
* * *
Enough of all these names of some international authorities, philosophers, writers. A child who acutely senses lies sees everything for himself and understands that in a society ruled by power, money and connections with the authorities or with criminals, the rest of the population are “patients”. If BEFORE school children begin to gravitate towards various “The Simpsons”, “Spongebobs” and other “Family Guy”, where men have a “scrotum” instead of chins:

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And the cartoons of the Soyuzmultfilm film studio suck for them, but at school they are taught only one rule: the teaching leads to scoliosis and loss of vision and does not decide any role either in the choice of profession (usually a salesperson, cashier or delivery of goods and food), or in personal life, nor in the “happiness” of life in general.
* * *
For young people, no one will ever propose a project to build a dream city, where the administration will not contain “woman-like” men and women with whom intimate life in any form is contraindicated.
That is why the smartest and most talented people are sick of a country whose power is determined by people for whom, according to the laws of the Russian Federation, it is already harmful to engage in any work activity. And the rest have slipped into ordinary primitivism and living by means of which are VERY, VERY, VERY small.
* * *
Those who fled the country do not see the benefit of the fact that they will die in the prime of life without giving birth, without building, without planting, while “sons” and “grandchildren” of the same age will hang out around the world, laughing at them and calling them “ rich dads, moms, and grandparents about their financial needs.
* * *
If this is true, then no one will be forced to believe in the “sweet lie.” But even today, when a small group of THIEVES FROM the 90s issues an ultimatum to the Russian authorities, showing on fingers who runs the country, what young man in his right mind would believe in this declared, unprincipled, soulless, impoverished TOMORROW?
Yes NOBODY and NEVER!

[Radical]

Quote: ivan2022

Quote: Lech from Android.

Quote: ivan2022

But the stubborn transition to personalities and the refusal to discuss the fundamental problem is a direct confirmation of what I wrote

It is your stubbornness that confirms what you wrote ...double edged sword.

I'm saying to accuse a lot of people of idiocy and psychopathy is not reasonable.
Be
I also make mistakes sometimes ... but I don’t make a tragedy out of this

Where are the fundamental objections? You just point your finger at your opponent. Do you understand it?
Once again, this is a confirmation of the fact about which I wrote. Facts are either there or not. They are not intelligent or not intelligent.

Another example!
On the night of December 8-8, 1991, three dudes met in the Bialowieza forest. And an event occurred, to which "no analogues" - the USSR disappeared. In a society inhabited by mentally normal people, such lawlessness could not have happened. This is not the history of the country, but surrealism,...... Illustration for the children's fairy tale by K Chukovsky "Cockroach".

This is a manifestation of mass idiocy, regardless of me or you. Whatever we are. Reasonable or not.

And if, let’s say in the USA, several similar “dudes” get together in Alaska and decide that the states are an archaism, do you think it will be different?

[Tim666]

Quote: alexey_444

Written by a student of a loser, well, like the cries of the West that the shells end in dill, so that the state replenishes the pockets of the military-industrial complex. You can write about ideas and any bullshit. Now in the world there is only one idea to achieve the maximum, to live in the present no matter in which country. It’s adults who can’t control their brains all the time, don’t eat food with all sorts of things, live their own lives, and so on. youth (it was originally built into it for the evolution of the species, to do it contrary to common adult sense, they have an underestimated sense of fear, etc.) is vulnerable to hype, the zebra effect from the Madagascar cartoon. And nowhere in the world is it possible to make caring for an old grandmother hype, even among Caucasians. Look at the surveys of young people in countries where there is no way to cut (the liberals got sick of their Mantra) money for youth policy, the majority, even in well-fed countries, want to leave the country in search of themselves. This is a long-term work of the capitalists, they know how to work on mistakes, so that it would not be like the Second World War to spend wagons on the export of slave power, but that slave power itself, spitting on families, hearing cheese like Roquefort from another cartoon, rushed anywhere but just not to bring income to the social sphere of the native states. This does not mean that you don’t have to do anything, but only the main upbringing takes place in the family, naturally in a family where mom has the same thoughts about nails and shopping, dad has tanks or booze with friends, then no education programs will fix anything. But if at least a part of it is carried away, then it is worth spending money on it.

Or maybe it makes sense to make sure that the workforce is not eager to leave, but rather eager to come, work and live comfortably, and not Gasters with primary school, but scientists, engineers, doctors, skilled workers? The USA became a great country because it was truly a country of opportunity compared to the old world, and if a person is easy-going and ready to go seek happiness, this already indicates his active personality. And there are a lot of people who want to spend money on stories that you need to do it this way, and not this way. Remind me where the former leader of the Nashi movement lives there now?

[Tim666]

Quote: Unknown

In today's RF, no youth policy in sight .What is meant by this term? In the USSR, the ideas of Anton Semenovich Makarenko, who was recognized in 1988 by UNESCO as one of the four outstanding teachers of the world, were promoted. Many considered his system cruel, inappropriate, but he proved to critics that it really works, you can’t argue here, he had to deal not just, as they say with “difficult teenagers”, but juvenile delinquents. His views are still relevant today.

“If you do not cultivate the habit of overcoming long-term difficulties, I have the right to say that you do not cultivate anything”

How can you disagree with such a statement. Hence this

Want to corrupt the soul of your child? Then don't refuse him anything. And over time, you will understand that you are not growing a person, but a crooked tree.

And you can't really argue. Or girls...

In the matter of re-education, there is nothing more difficult than girls who have been in the hands. No matter how long a boy hangs out on the street, no matter how difficult and illegal adventures he participates in, no matter how he bristles against our pedagogical interference, but if he has - even the smallest - intellect, in a good team he will always come out as a person. . This is because this boy, in essence, only lags behind, his distance from the norm can always be measured and filled. The girl, who began to live sexually early almost in childhood, not only lagged behind - both physically and spiritually, she bears a deep trauma.

. In Soviet times, they taught from school, the team is strength, all together, they can achieve a lot, and Makarenko said “The task of our education is to educate a collectivist” In the late USSR, and after its collapse, they began to educate differently .. Individualism, today, is also one of the foundations of success...Here we went along this path, and with songs. Result on the face. No matter how, the main thing is more money, there will be money, everything will be. What cannot be bought with money can be bought with a lot of money. That's the whole ideology. But our children, who are not blind, see what we adults do not notice in everyday worries. I have four, and I know how difficult it is sometimes to answer seemingly simple questions. The elders have grown up and have already found the answers, and when we meet they say, you were right, dad, life is not a field to cross, you will see and learn a lot.

But in the USSR itself, Makarenko and his ideas are very
quickly pushed back and his ideas were used more in words. There is nothing wrong with individualism, but everyone understands it differently; in fact, it presupposes respect for
others and let them respect you, and many understand him as I am the navel of the Earth.

[Tim666]

Quote: Max1995

Again for all the good, against all the bad .. Like Putin's message ..
But I read a similar speech from some director at the Goblin about 5 years ago. What changed?
Nothing is visible. Only, IMHO, it got worse. Non-Russian speech and swearing on the street has become more.

A generation has come who have grown up in lies, and the children of Tajiks and Uzbeks who have arrived, who do not need all this school, circles, propaganda, youth army.

It is precisely the children of Tajiks and Uzbeks who really need school and clubs; most parents dream that their children will receive a good education; by the way, there are many of them in universities now.

[Tim666]

Quote: Boris55

Quote: A. Samsonov

The government has nothing to offer them.

The question is fundamentally wrong.
The state should not guess the "Wishlist" of the youth - it is obliged to form them!

The character you cited drew the Red Guards, fulfilled the dream of teenagers to go and knock on all the mossy old farts. Then these boys had to be dispersed by the armies.
I’ll tell you a secret, often children and young people completely reject what adults try to form artificially, especially when there are options to choose from, another way is the DPRK - to fence the borders with thorns and cut off the Internet.

[Boris55]

Quote from Tim666

The character you cited drew the Red Guards

You only confirmed the correctness of his statement. All the desires of young people must be formed from childhood, as it was in the USSR: Octoberists, pioneers, Komsomol members, communists - these are the stages in the formation of a society of builders of communism. The fact that we were betrayed by the supreme power is not our fault.

[Plate]

Quote: Boris55

That we were betrayed by the supreme power

So, where did the power come from, hmm? Gorbachev was born in 1931, when “generations of builders of communism” were already being prepared. But for some reason he was not prepared.

[Tim666]

Quote: alexey_444

I will tell you all over the world if you have connections with prosecutors, measures and other elites, then you will have more opportunities for realization and nowhere in the world do they groan like we do, give me opportunities, people just get married, get married, become friends with people of the elite, and then, having already received a name, they achieve what they want. Therefore, in the west there is competition, that there is competition everywhere, people are hardened fighters over their heads, but in our country. As in a fairy tale, everyone wants to lie on the stove and that the state would bring work on a silver platter. Already 30 years have passed since Western propaganda, how many people have already sipped Western opportunities to wash toilets, and our country is still full of dreamers.

A good mantra about toilets, do you want to say that a builder or an engineer will go there to wash the toilets? An acquaintance of mine went to the USA as a student in the 2000s, and without any qualifications he was hired as a cook for 3 months, because he showed that he was a good cook, he had a lot of work to do, and the jobs that were offered by the companies that organized the trips were the hardest to climb.

[Bolt cutter]

without any crusts they hired me as a cook for 3 months

An illegal cook will never reach the level that those who dream of “getting out” see for themselves.

[Reklastik]

Everything is very accurately noted and formulated. Before the war, Soviet people had something to compare: life before the revolution and after it, as the Soviet government made it. They had something to protect, even at the cost of their lives, for their children. To simply defend the freedom that exists in Russia, for which no one even fought and with which many do not understand what to do, for the opportunity to pay a loan for an apartment for 25 years, for the opportunity to realize it in Moscow and St. Petersburg or participate in staged projects of the authorities.... Well I do not know. Of course, this is better than total suppression of a person. But this is not quite what is needed.

[Tim666]

Quote: parusnik

All these newborn youth formations "Ours" and others were stillborn, initially. To create something in the Soviet image and likeness is initially doomed. It is not possible to create a mass youth movement in a capitalist society. Yes, and there are no similar organizations in the West. When was the last world festival of youth and students? That's the same.

Scouts feel quite well in the capitalist world, the ideas are very similar to the pioneer ones if we discard Lenin and communism.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote from Tim666

Scouts feel quite well in the capitalist world, the ideas are very similar to the pioneer ones

And pioneering arose in opposition to the scout movement in the RSFSR and the USSR in the 20s.

[Tim666]

Quote: ivan2022

Quote from Tim666

Since the 2000s, young people in China have been plowing for 16 hours a day. The experience of 1937 and the great cultural revolution will be especially valuable)

Some are hindered by thieves and traitors, while others are not only the ideas of justice, but also their own eggs ..... To each his own.

I don’t quite understand the message, do you associate justice with 1937 in the USSR and with the Great Cultural Revolution in China?

[Tim666]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Why is Japanese anime, elements of the culture of Japan, Korea or China more attractive than the official youth movements of the Russian Federation or Ukraine?

Because Russian culture is pushed into a corner or represented by cartoons like Masha and the Bear.

Did you watch the cartoon yourself or, as in the joke, did you not read it, but I condemn you?

[Dmitry Rigov]

The cartoon is undoubtedly good, but it is intended for children, but the domestic animation/film industry cannot offer anything interesting for teenagers and older.

[Yuri Martynenko]

Is everything bad again???
So maybe you suggest listening to the words of the Jew Katz, he always suggests giving up when there is a rush?
So that no one runs away anywhere - the Law is the same for everyone! No one will escape fair punishment for their actions, from a judge and a deputy to an ordinary citizen, no matter how much money the criminal has!
They will turn their faces to people who can do something and not just call from the stands. He will still be involved in Russian education, create and constantly support clubs in schools like in the Union, radio, modeling, programming. To reach even remote schools and so that the “growth points” are actually Growth and not for reporting to the top. So that the child goes to school with pleasure and stays after school and does his favorite activity at school with a smart teacher, as we had in the USSR!
The Yunarmiya is good, only schoolchildren should be here from the first grades, and the leader is not a wimp, but a person who stands up for his children of the Yunarmiya.
Yes, now maybe the State has no time for study groups, no time for education, but this is our future!

[Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov]

It started in the late 90s. Then smiling methodologists “from Sores” appeared in educational organizations with the key requirement “to create a situation of success for the child” no matter what the cost. Then school psychologists appeared who explained that if a child does not succeed in something, then it is not the child’s fault and last place in competitions is also good, the main thing is to get a diploma of “participation”. But a child should not achieve success through work and sweat, but should try himself in something else, because somewhere he will be lucky to finally achieve success. But you can’t give bad grades because it lowers the child’s self-esteem.
All this is intertwined with films where any jaded loser must wait until he is bitten by a spider or hit by a meteorite - and here you are - without work or worries - the idol of millions - SPEEEERMAN.
As a result, we get generations where the majority have excessively high self-esteem, a complete lack of desire to work (no, well, for the sake of a situation of success, they are ready to “work” even for an hour if it is simple and easy) and the expectation of a “spider bite”.
This completely suits the majority - as an example, Sberbank entered into a contract not with some winner of the World School Olympiad - but with an incomprehensible creature named Danya Milokhin. And what other ideals can these generations of “snowflakes” embrace?

[ZeeD]

Have you heard about Thor from Hollywood films, but don’t know the Russian gods?

What? Forward to paganism?

Obviously, in this situation, some young people will leave for China or Japan.

Strongly doubt.
Complex language, completely different culture. A closed society (in Japan) that is not easy to fit into.

What does the situation with the youth subculture of "anime people" and the so-called. PMC Redan?

That teenagers have a new group. Which were always enough. But they made a big deal out of this. But it’s unfortunate for the competent authorities that they didn’t track and stop it!

[Alexander Ra]

Quote: ZeeD

What? Forward to paganism?

Of course, forward to paganism. That is, to the restoration of our natural type of self-organization - veche self-government, destroyed 1000 years ago. Otherwise, Ivan2022 is right (see above), the idiocy of the people cannot be stopped. “Idiot - (from ancient Greek ἰδιώτης - “an individual, a private person; an ignorant person”), in Ancient Greece, a citizen of the polis, living in isolation from public life, not participating in the general meeting of citizens of the polis and other forms of state and public democratic governance." The latest amendments to the constitution legitimize the idiocy of the population (the State Council determines foreign and domestic policy - the people are on the sidelines). Forward - and the problem with “youth policy” will disappear.

[Sumotori_380]

As far as I understand, veche self-government looks impeccable only from a distance of 10 centuries. They had their birthmarks - they bribed those who voted, they soldered their heads for background sound, and they beat opponents in the faces. And the pantheon of Slavic gods should be left where it is now - in history. Well, I don’t believe in a modern person who is capable, imbued with religious ecstasy and a feeling of unity with a supernatural being, to sincerely turn to Mokoshi or Veles.

[Alexander Ra]

The point is not ecstasy. Mokosh and Veles are not interesting - deny cyclicity in space, or give it other names. The essence is in the ways of information movement in society, or full access to it by everyone, or the appropriation of information-substance-energy by the “chosen ones”.

[sent26]

What are the problems with watching anime?
Very often smart, sometimes philosophical stories.
Teach from a toddler age to watch and read good things, with a high degree of probability that in adolescence and adulthood you will watch a quality product.
So here it is not the authorities, but the parents who are responsible for education.

[Geological prospecting]

The entire “youth policy” over the past decades has been about snatching it into your own pocket. Any section, circle, course that worked FOR young people was eliminated and destroyed. Schools have deliberately eliminated any clubs or sections. The idealists tried to hold out for some time on the basis of the Out-of-School Education Centers, but they were also killed. Businessmen from the authorities need “consumers” who will “relax” in shopping centers of which an incredible number have been built within walking distance. People who are interested in museums, theaters, and sports are currently, by and large, unnecessary for the state! Shopping center - work - church - shopping center is the ideal route of the “ideal” citizen, who was raised since the 90s. And they brought them up, so why be surprised now? That there are people who don’t like it and they don’t want to be like “everyone else”, but want to respect themselves and fight back when “all sorts of ....” tries to tell them “that it’s rude to behave like that” The state. The machines have a lot of experience in eliminating unwanted people, so there are no illusions. Instead of “Leading and directing” this generation will be ruined too....

[W-12]

What can I say. Young people are different. I'm 22 years old. I have been living separately from my parents for a long time, I have graduated from school and am working. The technical school had a ton of all kinds of clubs and activities for every taste.
And I did it in a fun and interesting way.
Marxism was of particular interest to me and my friends. And even now we remain Marxists. But it is clear that the bourgeois government will not promote this. My comrades and I had no thoughts of leaving. Personally, I condemn people who left. The reasons don't particularly interest me. He got out and acted like a rat. It's simple.
There are so many of us on the line right now, they’ll call us, let’s go. Not all youth are rotten.

[Viktior Vinland]

Quote: UAZ 452

At the end of the USSR, she didn’t work very much anymore, but in the 20s-50s it was very much like

If in the 20-50s it was "very much like", and in the 70-80s, without any external interventions, global catastrophes, it didn’t work at all, then the seeds of rot were planted inside the system back then. The first task of the community is to preserve itself now, the second, no less important, is to reproduce itself in the future, its population, ideals, and elite. The USSR did not cope with this task from the word at all. And if it is repeated, then its later period will be repeated, making the next 1991 inevitable.

There were shortcomings, let's take them into account and correct them. The Soviet Union was a unique experience, the first time in human history. And immediately a huge success. Next time it may turn out even better, the first damn thing is lumpy, as they say, but the history of the USSR cannot be called lumpy.

[Nikanor1993]

We will definitely give it another chance, the main thing is not to despair.

Despair is characteristic of those who do not understand the causes of evil, do not see a way out, and are unable to fight.

As Comrade Lenin said, we need to study the theory of socialism and learn to present it to others in a presentable and interesting way, and be guided by the principles of equality and humanism.

[vvn_vl]

so there is Kiriyenko and... we are waiting for another default... after that the Kiriyenko will be awarded and promoted

[Quote Lavrov]

Not an article, but some kind of phantasmagoria - in an article about youth policy there are quotes about a unicorn, Menzulina.... the feeling that the author of the article either does not have the information completely or is simply being confused

[NetKeys]

Youth policy is now forged in military battles.
Baby dolls, slackers, consumers, gadget addicts, who don’t know sports, fights, tools - they’re not given a real job, you see. Politics must not fail at something. Everyone owes you. Few people can raise their own child. And here the masses are unhappy.

[Andrey Stavropolsky]

An idea can be created by people who are not involved in government agencies and are burdened with terrible bureaucracy and hierarchy. But this is unrealistic.

[Frank Muller]

“We have done, are doing and will do everything to take away Russia’s young generation, having managed to ideologically attract them to our side.” I’m not sure that the majority of those discussing will confidently name the author of this statement and, most importantly, when he made it. It is hardly surprising that Zbigniew Brzezinski, who always looked at the USSR as the main American enemy, said this. It is much more unusual that this Russophobe expressed himself after the collapse of the Soviet Union, switching to the post-Soviet Russian Federation. What does this mean? The fact that the US “Overseas” has its own very specific anti-Russian youth policy towards Russia. But the fact that in the modern Russian Federation there is a corresponding, purposeful progressive youth policy is not noticeable. Should we not consider regular government chatter on this topic, not supported by any effective specifics, to be a manifestation of this policy?

[newtc7]

Is there at least one area in which this government is not failing?

[Losyara]

False, you say? So remove this falsehood. Then we need to remove all the oligarchs and snickering officials with their children, the majors, who get good things not by deeds and intelligence, but by birth. There are no possibilities when there is such a wild class division. Social elevators? This is a fairytale. It probably takes a really big shock to change all this.

[Private SA]

“People make new people.” Clip from the group “Spleen.” Enter required viewing in
school curriculum

[BorzRio]

In a consumer society there can be no other ideas other than money. Money is the God of prosperity, power and permissiveness. If you have a lot of money, then your laws are not laws, borders are not borders. And everyone prays to this God. Even a 13-year-old teenager, or an 80-year-old old woman. The author is right, the use of budget money and imitation of activities is the plan for the activities of servants of the people from the state. And the aomiya became an imitation. SVO is even an imitation. Someone dies, someone gets rich. And why should young people who are talented and able to earn money live in Russia and not strive for the West? Young people don't care about politics and global conflicts. They see how rotten the state is, they see an imitation. And they understand that there is no future here. Eternal sanctions, bans, blocking, isolation. Either tomorrow everything will collapse in the economy, or another regrouping and retreat in the Northern Military District, or even the Maidan and civil war, if the Northern Military District is covered with a copper basin. And young people don’t want to waste their lives on this. She wants to live in a peaceful country, without travel or flight restrictions, to attend football, theaters, and clubs. And don’t rush around waiting for a new mobilization, or new restrictions, if things go wrong at the front.
Oznitsa is simply in perception. I know a lot of young, smart guys who still don’t understand why and why they started bombing Ukraine, entered it, then ran back, and why we are now defending ourselves, even on our own territory. None of them understands where that polished army went from parades and exercises. And since there is no army, there is no sense of security and peace of mind for your future. And it’s not a global idea that young people need; what they need is smart, far-sighted leadership of the country, a smart government, and not imitators of activity and appropriators of the budget.

[valera75]

Now there is a program by Besogon Mikhalkov on Spa TV, it’s about education and youth, everything that is discussed here. Anyone who wants to can watch it, there’s a lot of interesting stuff there.

[Tim666]

Quote from stelltok

And freedom is the opportunity for self-realization

An opportunity for self-realization is factories - or industrialization.
Who mostly leaves the country? Engineers, scientists,...

Do you have access to objective statistics? It is primarily active people who leave; their profession is secondary.

[Tim666]

Quote: valera75

Now there is a program by Besogon Mikhalkov on Spa TV, it’s about education and youth, everything that is discussed here. Anyone who wants to can watch it, there’s a lot of interesting stuff there.

The program completely sucks, in general, when old people begin to talk about what young people need, how to educate young people, this is a guarantee that this education will be sent by young people to the well-known three letters.

[Tim666]

Quote: Forever so

Why is there a youth policy in the colony? According to the rules, all young people must go to the metropolis and boost its economy. So Ryodan, this is just another signal that there is a GAP between the correct words about Our youth and deeds.

What kind of metropolis are young people being called to? And why are you not satisfied with the same Redan? Why is it worse than the Komsomol? Teenagers hanging out based on their interests, they don’t ask for money from the state, they broke into a stupid idiot a couple of times and became a threat to the state? Let the state deal with the AUE movement and ban it)))

[Tim666]

Quote: Frank Muller

“We have done, are doing and will do everything to take away Russia’s young generation, having managed to ideologically attract them to our side.” I’m not sure that the majority of those discussing will confidently name the author of this statement and, most importantly, when he made it. It is hardly surprising that Zbigniew Brzezinski, who always looked at the USSR as the main American enemy, said this. It is much more unusual that this Russophobe expressed himself after the collapse of the Soviet Union, switching to the post-Soviet Russian Federation. What does this mean? The fact that the US “Overseas” has its own very specific anti-Russian youth policy towards Russia. But the fact that in the modern Russian Federation there is a corresponding, purposeful progressive youth policy is not noticeable. Should we not consider regular government chatter on this topic, not supported by any effective specifics, to be a manifestation of this policy?

Whistling fantasy, where and when is it said, can you provide a link to the source? Isn’t this a variation on Dulles’s plan, which itself is a variation of words from the novel Eternal Call? When conversations begin about young people and it is necessary to impose an ideology on them, one is tempted to fart like General Dragomirov when he was asked how the Russo-Japanese War would end.
Young people need what they are interested in, but what can people 50-60+ give them? At the age of 40, when communicating with a 20-year-old, you understand how far you are from this generation, and what can people give to young people for 60 years of the next Youth Army? Ours, where the main thing is a video report on the event? Is it hard to return free mugs - aircraft modeling, robotics, design, electronics, radio? I’ll say about myself that trips to the aircraft modeling workshop left a mark on my life more than official political and cultural education from teachers, because the teacher did not deal with official stuff but behaved like a loving father or grandfather, although he was an aviation colonel well over 60, did not make speeches about patriotism, but could tell how He himself was a tramp in childhood and youth, and at the same time he enjoyed unquestioned authority. Moreover, we came to the club with pleasure at 10, 12 and 16 years old. My opinion is that it is impossible to interest children in government affairs, it is only possible to force them to pretend.

[Frank Muller]

If you are very interested, I can look for the link. And, if I’m not mistaken, in one of the old issues of “Besogon” Mikhalkov cited this tirade (possibly with paraphrasing). What's unusual here? An intelligent, competent and focused enemy will never underestimate the effectiveness of information and psychological warfare carried out on the territory of his enemy. And regarding children’s extracurricular activities in the Russian Federation, I am better informed than many, and I still continue to work in this system. I can say that, in comparison with the Soviet one (which was also not ideal), it is lame on both legs due to bureaucratic arbitrariness and stupidity, and as a consequence of this, the corresponding organization. This, naturally, cannot but affect the education and moral formation of the younger generation. Fact.