Why is it risky to call yourself Russian in Russia

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Why is it risky to call yourself Russian in Russia

Due to the fact that Russia is conducting a special military operation in Ukraine, one of the reasons for which is the Russophobic policy of Ukraine, and one of the goals is the protection of the rights of Russians (although politicians mention Russian speakers much more often) in the Donbass and southern Ukraine, we often hear the term "de-Russification". This definition is really appropriate in relation to the policy pursued by Kyiv.

The Russian spring of 2014 and the annexation of Crimea were accompanied by a rather serious national upsurge, the activation of civil society, a significant part of which hoped for the restoration of the empire, a radical change in Russian policy.



Despite the fact that this impulse went into vain, there were some reasons to believe that the beginning of the NWO would contribute to the Russification not only of new Russian territories, but also of Russia itself, and domestic propaganda would focus on the reunification of the Russian people and historical succession from the Russian Empire. After all, Vladimir Putin himself emphasized that modern Ukraine was created by Bolshevik Russia by separating from it part of its own historical territories.

However, the reality turned out to be different - paradoxically, but the NWO has accelerated the processes of de-Russification of the Russian Federation. De-Russification, which Russia is fighting in Ukraine. Why is this happening? We will talk about this in this material.

To call yourself Russian - extremism?


The other day, the Russian media stirred up news - to a certain singer Yaroslav Dronov, known under the pseudonym Shaman, applied about extremism. This was done by some citizen from the Tula region, who considered that the song called "I am Russian" allegedly "incites ethnic hatred." The author is not familiar with the work of this artist, but the fact that someone writes denunciations about a person because he calls himself Russian attracted my attention. The fact is that this denunciation is quite symptomatic and, in principle, fully corresponds to the spirit of the policy pursued by the Russian Federation in relation to the “Russian question”.

Back in 2013, the historian, researcher at the Institute of Slavic Studies Oleg Nemensky wrote that the Russian Federation retains a ban on Russian subjectivity - one cannot unite on the basis of Russian identity. Russians today remain the only major people of the European part of the world that do not have any institutions of self-government, even in the cultural field.

Some prohibitions are not spelled out in law, but are applied in practice: for example, formally Russians in Russia have the right to their own cultural autonomy, but in reality, any attempts to register it are suppressed [1]. The old Soviet model of national policy is complemented by a new ideology and practice of multiculturalism, which also affirms the priority of the rights and opportunities of minorities.

“At the beginning of the 1st century, Russian identity has no official status anywhere; with a few exceptions, it is not even represented in the names of public organizations. This is in the truest sense of the word an illegal identity, it is completely ousted from the public sphere [XNUMX]”,

wrote Nemensky.

We will return to this issue later, but for now we will turn to the denunciation of the “wrong” name of the song “I am Russian”.

I believe that there will be those who will say that the news about the singer Dronov is not worth a damn, or even is a kind of PR move by the performer himself. Even if we assume that this is the case (although the author does not believe so), there are other, much more alarming facts. And they concern the processes of de-Russification that are taking place in some of the national republics of Russia.

Derussification of the republics of the Russian Federation?


February 28 State Duma approved the bill, introduced by the parliamentarians of the Chechen Republic, which allowed the Russian names of district courts in Grozny to be removed. Now the Leninsky District Court of Grozny will be called the Akhmatovsky District Court, the Oktyabrsky District Court - Baysangurovsky, Staropromyslovsky - Visaitovsky, Zavodskoy - Sheikh-Mansurovsky.

In addition to the actual fact of the renaming itself, one should pay attention to who the courts are renamed in honor of.

Who is, for example, Sheikh Mansour? Historical reference books say that Sheikh Mansur, a Chechen imam, before that a shepherd of Ushurma, originally from the village of Aldy, began to preach his religious teachings in the Caucasus in the 80s of the XNUMXth century and led the anti-Russian movement in Chechnya. Mansur's ally was the Little Kabardian prince Dol Mudarov, who supported a party oriented towards Turkey and fought together with Sheikh Mansur against Russia.

“Sheikh Mansur sought to create a theocratic state dominated by the Chechens… The need for Islamization was clearly seen in his sermons. To achieve the goal, the simplest methods were chosen: raids and intimidation ...
The Russian command decides to pacify the dissatisfied by military means by sending a detachment of Colonel Pieri to Chechnya. The colonel freely reached the village of Aldy, but the Chechens, seeing the approach of the Russian detachment, left him. But, returning to the Caucasian line, Pieri fell into an ambush organized by Sheikh Mansur. Pieri's detachment was surrounded in the forest and almost completely destroyed by the Chechens. The victory under the leadership of Sheikh Mansur was the beginning of the movement in the North Caucasus, which lasted until 1791 - his capture in Anapa" [2],

- writes, for example, historian Nikolai Karpukhin.

Thus, a separatist who advocated Islamization and opposed Russian statehood is now revered as a hero, in Chechnya courts are named after him, and the Russian authorities fully approve of this. Isn't this de-Russification? Not to mention the fact that the Sheikh Mansour Battalion is taking part in the fighting on the side of Ukraine.

The example of the Chechen Republic in this case is not the only one. Let's take another, no less symptomatic example of de-Russification.

On December 23, 2022, the State Council of Tatarstan adopted amendments to the constitution, following which the next president of the republic will be called "Rais of the Republic of Tatarstan".

"Rais" is an Arabic word, a title of Arabic origin, which has nothing to do with the Tatar tradition proper. A logical question arises - why was the position of the head of Tatarstan renamed? But on February 16, the State Duma adopted a law on the protection of the Russian language from foreign words and borrowings. How does this law fit in with this fact of renaming? There is no answer to this question.

Origins of de-Russification


Among historians studying the “Russian question”, one can often find the opinion that the origins of de-Russification should be sought in the national policy of the USSR. In part, this opinion is true, because the national policy of Moscow in the Soviet era really made a fairly significant contribution to the de-Russification, in particular, of Western Russian lands.

For example, O. Nemensky notes that it was in Soviet Ukraine that mass Ukrainization was carried out, and it was only at first called “indigenization”, but the real assertion of Ukrainian self-consciousness, compulsory teaching of the Ukrainian language and a special version of Ukrainian history did not stop until the end of the existence of the USSR [ 1].

The course towards total Ukrainization was taken in April 1923 at the XII Congress of the RCP (b), the main enemy of the Soviet state was declared "national chauvinism", primarily "Great Russian". The danger of the growth of separatism and nationalist sentiments in the republics was recognized by the participants of the congress as insignificant [3]. At the congress, it was stated that local nationalism "is a reaction to Great Russian nationalism, a response to it, a well-known defense."

One of the attempts to circumvent the society-dividing properties of national identity in the USSR, and later in the Russian Federation, was the theory of the political unity of a multinational society and the projects resulting from it to create the “Soviet people”, and in recent years, the Russian one, i.e. “the nation of Russians ". However, here, regarding the Soviet national policy, it is worth making one important remark - the Soviet people were conceived as some kind of unprecedented "new community of people", and therefore did not deny and did not replace nationality.

In post-Soviet Russia, there is an attempt to build a “Russian nation” on the model of Western “civil nationalism”, which implies the replacement or, at least, the predominance of a new “Russian” identity over Russian. By itself, the project of the Russian nation is another de-Russification technology that has the form of a national ideology, and in general is very similar to Ukrainianism [1].

Thus, the origins of de-Russification should indeed be sought in the Soviet Union, however, these processes acquired the most unhealthy and painful features in the Russian Federation.

Conclusion


Perhaps now, against the backdrop of the events taking place in Ukraine, where Russia actually opposes the entire collective West, which actively supports Kiev, the topic of de-Russification will seem insignificant to someone, and its discussion untimely. However, these processes began to take place actively just after the beginning of the SVR, which cannot but cause concern. How is Russia going to carry out Russification of Ukraine if there is a slow de-Russification of Russia itself?

It is no coincidence that we see few Russian heroes participating in a special military operation - if the Russian spring gave us such bright and charismatic personalities as Alexei Mozgovoy, Arsen Pavlov (Motorola), Igor Strelkov, Pavel Dremov and many others, then the special military operation did not put forward to the fore such leaders. The main slogan of the NWO is the Chechen slogan “Akhmat is strength” (which is always supplemented with the words “Allahu Akbar”).

Summing up, it should be noted that nothing has changed since Oleg Nemensky wrote that Russian society has developed special rules of political correctness that prohibit flaunting Russian identity.

“The identification of Russian patriotism with fascism, that is, with an ideology that has a criminal character in the perception of the majority, has become the norm. All this led to the fact that society has developed special norms of political correctness that prohibit the flaunting of Russian identity. Manifestations of any other self-consciousness are supported by the idea of ​​the need to protect small nations ...
But the self-characterization “I am Russian” is seen as a challenge to public peace.
Through the assertion of Russophobic mythology, Russians are instilled with the idea of ​​their abnormality, danger, and hence the need to somehow fight, to suppress their Russianness. One can become a “normal” person only through self-denial [1].”

Использованная литература:
[1]. Nemensky O. B. Technologies of de-Russification // Questions of nationalism. 2013. No. 2 (14).
[2]. Karpukhin N. N. Participation of Kabardians in the movement led by Sheikh Mansur. Historical and social educational thought. 2017. Volume 9. No. 4.
[3]. Krutikov A. A. Until our power is strengthened. Bolsheviks and the Ukrainian national question in 1917–1923 – Perspectives. Electronic magazine, 2019.
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  1. +77
    4 March 2023 06: 04
    "a people without national self-consciousness is manure on which other peoples grow" (c) Dostoevsky. If Russian nationalism had not been banned in Russia, it would not have lost in Ukraine either. and all this svo would not be needed. and the country would not initially have collapsed.
    1. -3
      4 March 2023 06: 29
      Here the main question is how to define this national identity, belonging? By last name, by the language we speak, or by the column in the passport?
      1. +37
        4 March 2023 08: 45
        Culture and native language are the basis for recognizing oneself as belonging to a certain people
        1. +29
          4 March 2023 10: 15
          Just a couple of weeks ago, someone in a comment mentioned a book by Dmitry Sokolov Mitrich. It's called Not Tajik Girls, Not Chechen Boys.
          I just started reading it , so unfortunately I can not tell you about the whole book .
          But the beginning is already terrible, and the same topic is raised in it as in this article.
          I just want to put forward the slogan: Russians of all countries - unite.
          1. +6
            4 March 2023 23: 33
            Peter, in my opinion, the author sees the problem not only in corruption, but also in the fact that more and more people who patronize various diasporas are in high administrative positions in all areas. Over time, diasporas will begin to compete and attract the local population to their side. What will it result in? There are several ways, but all, in my opinion, are far from positive.
            1. +3
              5 March 2023 10: 14
              Sergei, we all have different views, that's clear.
              But in my opinion, the biggest problem in Russia and some other countries is that the LAW does not work.
              And it should be the same for everyone.
              Regardless of nationality, the thickness of the wallet or the position held.
              Only when people see that they can’t escape punishment, that my dad won’t cheat me, and my diaspora won’t help me, then they will start to think.
              To do this, it is necessary to create incorruptible judges and lawyers. And in general to eradicate corruption.
              It is clear that it is difficult to change people , they must be brought up from school .
              And crime will probably never be completely eradicated.
              Naturally, the fish rots from the head, everyone knows that.
              1. +2
                5 March 2023 16: 15
                Peter! I agree the law is harsh, but it is the law. I was threatened with murder in 2014 by the Ukrainian prosecutor, now he serves Russia, as they explained to me, he could not kill you. Incorruptible judges and lawyers, yes I would like to. I tried to sue for traffic violations, the police frankly told me that they had violated the Law, but not much, the judge also said so. The law and reality in the execution of the law, suggests that the police, the court, the prosecutor's office do not use the law in their activities, there is corporate solidarity, when one covers another illegal decision with his lawless decision, and the person who controls the observance of the law unsubscribes that everything is within the legal fields. Such a system that we have is criticized from many sides, historically it is not viable, let's see what happens next.
                1. +2
                  5 March 2023 16: 47
                  Here I am about the same thing , the law should be the same for everyone .
          2. +1
            5 March 2023 02: 56
            I also saw the title in the comments and also began to read.
            P/S/ The book mainly describes ethnic crime on the territory of the Russian Federation from 2002 to 2012.. And how the government officials behaved towards the Russians.. Well, this is such a reminder of the past years..
        2. 0
          7 March 2023 07: 43
          I’ll sing a song, I’m a Tatar, and everything is the same as in the shaman’s song, so all the hacks from the VO here will stigmatize me as a Nazi they won’t leave a living place.
          In fact, Mikhail Leontiev very correctly said a long time ago and recently repeated it. It doesn’t matter what nationality you are and the shape of your eyes and skin color for the West you are Russian. We have been killing each other since the 90s of the 20th century, and the most important success of the West is that we are killing each other from Karabakh to the NVO in Ukraine, in fact, a civil war throughout this large territory.
          1. +1
            10 March 2023 06: 36
            I’ll sing a song, I’m a Tatar, and everything is the same as in the shaman’s song, so all the hacks from the VO here will stigmatize me as a Nazi they won’t leave a living place.

            That there is such a song, Rinat Safin sings, listen in the internet. Such a fun song. No one has been branded yet. You do not confuse square with warm. According to Westerners, everything Russian should be destroyed, so that we would be ashamed of being Russian. This is Nazism. Sing whatever you want - Tatar, Chechen, Bashkir, Buryat. Just do not mock others in your songs and do not humiliate.
            In fact, Mikhail Leontiev very correctly said

            And about the cut of the eyes, Uncle Vasya Margelov said so.
      2. +11
        4 March 2023 09: 15
        Jews, Japanese and hundreds of other peoples somehow cope with this.
        1. +4
          4 March 2023 11: 02
          Quote: Oleg133
          Jews

          and where without them
        2. +7
          4 March 2023 11: 40
          Because they have mono-ethnic states.
          1. +4
            4 March 2023 12: 59
            Quote: DominickS
            Because they have mono-ethnic states.

            Not certainly in that way. There are many Arabs in Israel. In Japan, the Ainu.
            1. +10
              4 March 2023 14: 20
              2.5 Ainu in Russian (temporarily occupied by the Japanese) Hokaido, and a couple more islands, and where more than two dozen different peoples in the Russian Federation are two big differences.
              1. 0
                4 March 2023 17: 19
                Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
                2.5 Ainu in Russian (temporarily occupied by the Japanese) Hokaido, and a couple more islands, and where more than two dozen different peoples in the Russian Federation are two big differences.

                Are there any objections to Israel? Why such disdain for the Ainu?
            2. -1
              7 March 2023 07: 51
              Quote: Ulan.1812
              Quote: DominickS
              Because they have mono-ethnic states.

              Not certainly in that way. There are many Arabs in Israel. .

              In Israel, the Arabs live in Palestine and all the rest are squeezed out from there. Druzes and Yazids have always been allies of Israel and they do not consider themselves Arabs as Semites, like Arabs and Jews.
          2. 0
            4 March 2023 19: 25
            What makes you think?! All states are multinational, and even in Israel, Arabs make up at least a third of citizens ...
            1. +5
              5 March 2023 03: 19
              Quote from Ceburec59
              What makes you think?! All states are multinational, and even in Israel, Arabs make up at least a third of citizens ...

              In fact, all states strive for mono-ethnicity, and multinationality, autonomy is a kind of "compromise" in order to preserve territorial integrity. And so, there is a desire to "assimilate" national minorities. Moreover, in some countries (especially in the young states of the post-Soviet space) this process is accelerated and violent. A striking example: Ukraine, the Baltic states. At the international level, this is usually condemned as a gross violation of human rights, but in relation to Russians it is possible (even encouraged). We also have assimilation in Russia, but it is bilateral. For example, Russians are being assimilated in the national subjects, while in the "ordinary" subjects of the federation the process is reversed. The only problem is that migrants in Russian regions assimilate poorly and numerous diasporas help them maintain their identity, while Russians have practically no such organizations both in our "national subjects" and in post-Soviet countries (in fact, they are often banned or undesirable) .
              1. +2
                5 March 2023 09: 38
                And where do you see the assimilation of Russians in national subjects? In one third of our national subjects, Russians make up the majority of the population, and in another third, a very significant part of the population. In KhMAO 3 percent of the population of Khanty and Mansi, in Khakassia 10 percent of Khakasses, in Karelia Karelians and Vepsians less than 10 percent, in Buryatia, the Republic of Altai and Mordovia Buryats, Altaians and Mordovians (Erzyans and Saloreikh) about a third of the population, in Adygea Adyghes a fourth part population. Etc.
                1. 0
                  5 March 2023 21: 48
                  How so the word "moksha" edited? And laughter and sin with this Ukraine))
                  1. 0
                    5 March 2023 23: 57
                    Yes, I notice this is not the first time. Erzya is fine. But when I write the name of the second subethnos of the Mordovian people, an incomprehensible autocorrect occurs.) The funny thing is that Ukrainian nationalists like to call Russians the name of this subethnos.)
                    1. +1
                      6 March 2023 21: 15
                      I would say that the inhabitants of Ukraine like to call it that. There, these residents have a long-standing disease, which, apparently, is not treated and is contagious, like measles. A hundred years ago, in the Kharkov province, the locals sang: "Get up Kyrylo tai Gavrylo, take the pokers with horns! Drive to ... willows from Ukraine, cab ne perevodily grub!". Something like that was always present there ... The more village stupidity, the more stupid ambition. And this is incurable for the next decades, if not at all ...
                      I think this is due to the fact that the ancestors of the current inhabitants of Ukraine in the Republic of Poland were not even the second grade among the living creatures that inhabited the Kingdom of Poland, but were somewhere between cows and pigs. The second grade is still Poles, who are Catholic peasants.
                2. +1
                  7 December 2023 02: 59
                  And where do you see the assimilation of Russians into national entities? In Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, 3 percent of the Khanty and Mansi population

                  I'm from Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug-Yugra. Many of those who previously considered themselves Russian suddenly remember that their grandparents were Khanty or Mansi and through the court confirm that they belong to the Indigenous Peoples of the North (IMNS). This gives the right to benefits (for example, free quotas for catching valuable species of fish, priority payment of a number of benefits and financial assistance to large families and low-income people), there are subsidies for the purchase of housing (the state program of the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug "Housing for Aboriginal Peoples"), early retirement, and more. I am not against the state somehow helping the small peoples of the north to survive (after all, without support, many national crafts and trades will not withstand economic competition, and the peoples themselves will simply disappear after them), but one cannot go to the point of absurdity. If only those who live in camps and lead a traditional way of life were supported, there would be no questions, but this is not so. So there is assimilation of Russians into national entities, and it is often of an economic nature. It’s just often more profitable to be a “titular national”, i.e. "ours" than the Russians.
          3. +3
            4 March 2023 21: 14
            Quote: DominickS
            Because they have mono-ethnic states.

            Let's say it's a little different. What helped the Jews not to disappear as a people? Some will say their wisdom, exclusivity, resourcefulness, and so on. . No unifying idea! What's the idea? Judaism. The unifying Faith has helped the Jewish people to survive for many centuries. K; what is the idea of ​​the Russian people? Pushkin's poems, Dostoyevsky's novels, Tchaikovsky's music? Maybe the ideology of Marxism Leninism? What unites us? History of the Great Russian people? Previously, there was no division among the triune Russian people, there was the concept of Orthodox! On this basis, Pushkins, Dostoevskys, etc. appeared ... Faith was canceled .. The construction of the Great Just Society united. They didn’t build it .. The communist elites overstrained themselves, betrayed the people. What can unite us now? Victory in the Great Patriotic War? .. I don’t know, I don’t see anything ... It can unite Russian nationalism-fascism. But it is necessary???
            1. -4
              4 March 2023 21: 35
              Motherhood helped.
              Cheers cheers.
          4. +4
            5 March 2023 02: 04
            In percentage terms, there are noticeably fewer Jews in Israel than Russians in Russia - 74 percent. Russians in Russia are 80 percent.
          5. +3
            5 March 2023 05: 49
            Quote: DominickS
            Because they have mono-ethnic states.

            So Russia, according to all international canons, is a mono-ethnic state - 80% of the population are Russians. Look for the meaning of the concept of "mono-ethnic state".
            1. 0
              5 March 2023 11: 15
              Russia is definitely not mono-ethnic.
              The definitions of the United Nations Committee on Science, Education and Culture (UNESCO) provide a definition of a “mono-ethnic” or nation-state:
              "A nation-state is an area where cultural boundaries coincide with political boundaries. The ideal of the 'nation-state' is that the state unites people of the same ethnic group and cultural tradition."
              Thus, according to the UNESCO glossary, a national (or “mono-national”) state is one in which cultural (ethnic) boundaries coincide with political boundaries. The idea of ​​a nation state is that it brings together people of the same ethnic and cultural background.

              Neither in the history of creation, nor in the existing structure and borders, Russia does not correspond to this concept.
              There cannot be vast territories in a mono-ethnic state inhabited by different ethnic groups with such different cultural traditions.
              1. +1
                5 March 2023 15: 12
                Russia has always considered itself a multinational Empire, but at the end of the last century, a mono-ethnic state \ enclave \ region was considered one in which 70% - 80% of the population is of one nationality. In 1991 there were 82% Russians in the RSFSR. So, according to the then concepts, Russia is precisely mono-ethnic, but neither the Russian people, nor the citizens of Russia have ever considered their country to be mono-ethnic. Look at the coat of arms of the USSR and the Fountain of Friendship of Peoples at VDNKh.
            2. +1
              5 March 2023 12: 20
              In fact, there are no international canons. Some authors refer to other authors, and the original source cannot be found. Although, of course, in the scientific literature there are different definitions of multinationality and mononationality. Russia, according to some criteria, is a multinational state, according to others, a multinational state. There are territories where Russians are in the minority. I am closer to the point of view that Russia, like China, Great Britain, Spain, is a multinational state with a dominant ethnic group. Russians in the Russian Federation occupy the same position as the Han in China, the British in Great Britain, and the Castilians in Spain. But India, for example, is rather an example of a classical multinational state. Hindustanis are the most numerous people, but they are just over a third of the population. Hindi is native to 40 percent of the population. The situation is similar in Pakistan, where the largest people, the Punjabis, make up less than half of the country's population. The situation is similar in Indonesia. What unites multinational India, Pakistan, Bangladesh is that there are still peoples there, although they do not make up more than half of the population, but, nevertheless, far outnumber other peoples - Hindustanis, Punjabis, Javanese. But Japan, Bangladesh, both Koreas, indeed, are mono-national states.
        3. +16
          4 March 2023 13: 59
          Are you Jewish or Japanese or a hundred other nations??
          I absolutely don’t care how they are doing inside in their starns.
          It is more important for me that we have inside the country - and in our country Russians are in fact prohibited.
          almost immediately the screams begin - Russian nationalism, Russian chauvinism, etc., etc.
          but there are a bunch of shitty diasporas
          even in the passport nizya indicate that I am Russian.
          1. -4
            4 March 2023 16: 35
            Quote from Victor
            even in the passport nizya indicate that I am Russian.

            A banal example - who is Sergey Sergeevich Sergey by nationality in whose USSR passport was "Russian"?
          2. +4
            4 March 2023 17: 21
            Quote from Victor
            Are you Jewish or Japanese or a hundred other nations??
            I absolutely don’t care how they are doing inside in their starns.
            It is more important for me that we have inside the country - and in our country Russians are in fact prohibited.
            almost immediately the screams begin - Russian nationalism, Russian chauvinism, etc., etc.
            but there are a bunch of shitty diasporas
            even in the passport nizya indicate that I am Russian.

            I would return the nationality to the count in the passport. Perhaps filling it out can be made voluntary.
            1. -4
              4 March 2023 21: 37
              Who and how will it help? Hooray, Hooray, Hooray
            2. +1
              5 March 2023 01: 01
              Quote: Ulan.1812
              Quote from Victor
              Are you Jewish or Japanese or a hundred other nations??
              I absolutely don’t care how they are doing inside in their starns.
              It is more important for me that we have inside the country - and in our country Russians are in fact prohibited.
              almost immediately the screams begin - Russian nationalism, Russian chauvinism, etc., etc.
              but there are a bunch of shitty diasporas
              even in the passport nizya indicate that I am Russian.

              I would return the nationality to the count in the passport. Perhaps filling it out can be made voluntary.

              And what would it give?
              Quote: your1970
              Quote from Victor
              even in the passport nizya indicate that I am Russian.

              A banal example - who is Sergey Sergeevich Sergey by nationality in whose USSR passport was "Russian"?

              This is my classmate, a person who really existed - the nationality "Russian" in the passport of the USSR.
            3. +2
              5 March 2023 12: 41
              During the last two censuses, I always indicated my Russian nationality.
        4. +5
          5 March 2023 02: 31
          JAPANESE??? Are you seriously? And what percentage of non-Japanese permanently reside in Japan?...
          1. 0
            5 March 2023 02: 59
            He smiled too))
            99,9 percent Japanese))
            In fact, no matter how many there are in Japan and Israel, one should not forget here that these countries have a cultural level of development that is much higher than ours. And these countries are very developed in themselves and not poor migrants go to them .. Now, if we take Israel .. That's how many of our elite left for them? Why are there stupid people? There are smart people there .. If only such migrants would come to us)
      3. +15
        4 March 2023 09: 35
        how to define this national self-awareness ....

        In my opinion, you can ask more --- who is trying to determine?
        We see how various hangouts gather outside the borders of the Russian Federation, they worry about Russia, with very telling surnames --- Khodorkovsky, Gelman, Ulitskaya ..... you can’t remember everyone. After all, they are worried about the Russian people! Like would! And they themselves, like, rank among the Russians? What happens, a Russian person cannot be proud of Russianness, and who is non-Russian, but talk more recourse under this topic, the loot gets and just spins the anti-state, anti-Russian theme for the destruction of Russia from the inside.
        1. +9
          4 March 2023 15: 48
          So all of the Jews you listed, what kind of Russians are they? They are liars, and they want the defeat of Russia. There is not a drop of Russian in them. hiI’m not saying that all Jews are bad, or all Russians are good, but nevertheless, no matter how you look at libshiza, then Jewish roots, then Israeli citizenship. The same applies to Ukrainians and Belarusians. As soon as it smells, here it is! Sometimes Polish roots come up, but mostly, alas! hi
          1. +2
            4 March 2023 20: 39
            they are liars...

            What is it about. They have been collecting the Russophobic anti-Russian Forum "Free Russia" for 10 years already. And in words --- they worry about Russia.
          2. +1
            4 March 2023 21: 35
            Quote: VORON538
            So all of the Jews you listed, what kind of Russians are they? They are liars, moreover, they want the defeat of Russia

            In Israel, the public display of the "yellow-blakit" flag has recently been prohibited by law, with a fine of 10 shekels (000 rubles). We don't have such a law. And there is nothing to nod at some non-Russian Russophobes by blood (hello to the Third Reich), we are talking about Russian troubles.
            1. 0
              4 March 2023 22: 03
              The Jews simply remembered Babi Yar.
              1. 0
                6 March 2023 10: 42
                Quote from Aken
                The Jews simply remembered Babi Yar.

                And we forgot everything.
      4. +25
        4 March 2023 09: 57
        Quote: Vladimir80
        Here the main question is how to define this national identity, belonging? By last name, by the language we speak, or by the column in the passport?

        You singer Dronov answered this question. "I am Russian, my blood is from my father."
        Quite a long time ago, a mythology was launched - "There is so much mixed up in my blood ..." - that even if his father is Russian, he still cannot identify himself as Russian. What was it for? In order to blur the very concept of Russian nationality.
        The next mythologeme was beautiful, at first glance, but very dangerous - "Russian, this is not a nationality, but a state of mind." This mythology has the same goal - to blur the concept of Russian nationality. And the majority of Russians, even on this site, fell for this "time bomb".
        I don’t know who invented these mythologemes, but there is no doubt that he is very smart and, at the same time, an ardent Russophobe.
        "My blood is from my father...", as well as a patronymic and a surname. A man is the successor of the clan and ... nationality, regardless of the nationality of the mother, grandmother, etc.
        1. +1
          4 March 2023 12: 57
          What if the father is Russian and the mother is Jewish?
          1. +9
            4 March 2023 13: 45
            Quote: Hagakure
            What if the father is Russian and the mother is Jewish?

            In mixed marriages, the child chooses his own nationality. But, in our tradition, he is Russian. In Jewish tradition, a Jew. And once again - But, he will betray his father, family, if it is a son, if he accepts Jewish nationality.
            1. +1
              4 March 2023 14: 22
              They made him laugh, but he does something a little, or ala oligarchs / privatizers - they will immediately christen him a Jew (and call him to do bad things to him), regardless of what he himself thinks.
            2. +5
              4 March 2023 15: 14
              For example, Timati is a Tatar by his father and a Jew by his mother. and he juggles this, saying that among the Tatars, kinship is transmitted through the father, and among the Jews through the mother.
            3. +4
              4 March 2023 21: 38
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              But, he will cheat on his father, family

              What if the father is Jewish and the mother is Russian? Maybe, after all, let's not measure the skulls, but return to the language and culture?
              1. +1
                4 March 2023 21: 49
                Quote: Pushkar
                What if the father is Jewish and the mother is Russian?

                This Zhirinovsky will succeed.
              2. 0
                6 March 2023 15: 04
                Quote: Pushkar

                What if the father is Jewish and the mother is Russian? Maybe, after all, let's not measure the skulls, but return to the language and culture?

                But is it - "my blood is from my father", like the surname and patronymic - this is the measurement of skulls?
                Quote: Pushkar
                Let's get back to language and culture.

                Every nation has the right to its own language and culture. And did I hint somewhere else?
        2. +3
          4 March 2023 15: 56
          Well said about a time bomb
        3. -2
          4 March 2023 16: 42
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          I don’t know who invented these mythologemes, but there is no doubt that he is very smart and, at the same time, an ardent Russophobe.

          Based on your position
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          mythologeme - "There is so much in my blood..." - that even if his father is Russian, he still cannot identify himself as Russian.
          then everything east of Ryazan - obviously cannot be Russian by father. There were no Russians there initially.
          And those who arrived in the 19-20 century took local women as wives and by the 5-6th knee there was a drop of paternal blood there. And by 21 it was not left there at all.
          And yes, the Negro Pushkin and the Scot Lermontov are furiously indignant - their fathers were NOT Russian initially.
          So either they are a Negro with a Scot or Russian in culture / faith / language ...
          1. +2
            4 March 2023 18: 39
            It seems that everything is simple - one Russian of African origin, the other Russian of Scottish origin!
            1. 0
              5 March 2023 12: 52
              If Pushkin's mother had a grandfather of African descent, then Pushkin himself is of African descent? And the fact that he is three-quarters Russian and only a quarter German and African does not matter?)
            2. 0
              6 March 2023 20: 42
              Quote: Moldrus-13
              It seems that everything is simple - one Russian of African origin, the other Russian of Scottish origin!

              You are wrong. Read my comment below.
          2. +3
            5 March 2023 09: 34
            Pushkin has 7 Russian and 1 non-Russian ancestors, and all subsequent generations after a non-Russian ancestor grew up among Russians and were brought up as Russians. If one of your distant ancestors is Chinese, will you become Chinese? laughing
          3. +3
            5 March 2023 12: 50
            Pushkin had a Negro great-grandfather, and on his mother's side. By blood, he is 75 percent Russian, 12,5 percent African (and on the maternal side), 12,5 percent German. And by self-consciousness, he was one hundred percent Russian. Lermontov only had Scottish roots, but he was one hundred percent Russian. It is wrong to reduce nationality to DNA, blood, etc. it is also a question of self-consciousness, culture, language.
            1. +1
              12 March 2023 02: 30
              So it’s worth talking about Russians - experts in cranium measuring come running. But for some reason, when talking about Armenians / Jews / Latvians, they are not there. There, no one thinks that "I have a great-grandfather of a dinosaur, a Negro grandmother, and I myself am a multinational citizen." And for
          4. +1
            6 March 2023 15: 49
            Quote: your1970
            then everything east of Ryazan - obviously cannot be Russian by father. There were no Russians there initially.

            East of Ryazan, how far east is that? And you know this for sure.
            Quote: your1970

            And those who arrived in the 19-20 century took local women as wives

            Do you want to say that the arrivals were exclusively single men?
            Or maybe, most likely, families came and gave in marriage and married their grown children between their own - who arrived. In fact, mixed marriages were not very common.
            Quote: your1970
            And yes, Negro Pushkin

            Well, let's look at the purebred negro Pushkin

            = Father - Sergey Lvovich Pushkin (1770-1848), secular wit and amateur poet. Pushkin's mother - Nadezhda Osipovna (1775-1836), granddaughter of Hannibal. =
            Just a GRANDDAUGHTER!!!
            Based on - "My blood is from my father", it turns out that my favorite poet Alexander Sergeevich is not a black man, but - RUSSIAN!
            Quote: your1970
            Scot Lermontov

            = mother
            Maria Mikhailovna Lermontova (1795-1817) was the only daughter of the Arsenyevs. = "Arsenyevs Scots" sounds good.
            = Father
            Yuri Petrovich Lermontov (1787-1831) was handsome, well built, kind, but very quick-tempered. According to family tradition, he graduated from the cadet corps and served the Fatherland until he was dismissed for health reasons. After the service, he moved to the Kropotovo family estate. It was located not far from the village of Vasilyevskoye, where, a few months after the move, he met Maria Mikhailovna Arsenyeva. = Well, also a purebred Scot laughing
        4. +3
          5 March 2023 02: 08
          In the USSR, the nationality of the parents was recorded on the birth certificate. When receiving a passport, one could choose the nationality of one of the parents if they were of different nationalities. But not arbitrarily, whichever you want.
          1. +1
            5 March 2023 13: 08
            I agree, but this was in the period when everything was settled, in the second half of the 30s and in the 40s-80s. There was a lot of confusion in the 20s and early 30s. In Central Asia, many Uzbeks in Tajikistan were recorded as Tajiks, and Tajiks in Uzbekistan as Uzbeks. I personally know people whose grandparents were recorded as Ukrainians and Belarusians, although they considered themselves Russians. Children and grandchildren considered themselves Russians, but they could not change their nationality, because both mothers and fathers had Ukrainian or Belarusian nationality indicated in the passport. And in the 40-50s, when some peoples were evicted, a certain, not very large, number of Chechens, Kalmyks, Crimean Tatars, etc. nationality was changed in passports if they were qualified specialists who were undesirable to be sent to places of exile. Especially in cases where the parents were of different nationalities. So the Crimean Tatar, the famous pilot Amet Khan-Sultan became an Avar.
        5. +2
          5 March 2023 08: 55
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Quote: Vladimir80
          Here the main question is how to define this national identity, belonging? By last name, by the language we speak, or by the column in the passport?

          You singer Dronov answered this question. "I am Russian, my blood is from my father."
          Quite a long time ago, a mythology was launched - "There is so much mixed up in my blood ..." - that even if his father is Russian, he still cannot identify himself as Russian. What was it for? In order to blur the very concept of Russian nationality.
          The next mythologeme was beautiful, at first glance, but very dangerous - "Russian, this is not a nationality, but a state of mind." This mythology has the same goal - to blur the concept of Russian nationality. And the majority of Russians, even on this site, fell for this "time bomb".
          I don’t know who invented these mythologemes, but there is no doubt that he is very smart and, at the same time, an ardent Russophobe.
          "My blood is from my father...", as well as a patronymic and a surname. A man is the successor of the clan and ... nationality, regardless of the nationality of the mother, grandmother, etc.


          I completely agree, and then they start demagogy even here on this site, but who should be considered Russian and who should not be counted, but Gogol and Lelmonotov and Pushkin.
          You decide for yourself! And the famine with Pushkin and Lermontov was decided for themselves 20 years ago.
          Russian nation, by blood, by spirit, by mentality, whatever.
      5. +3
        4 March 2023 12: 28
        Quote: Vladimir80
        ..... how to determine ..... By last name, by the language we speak, or by the column in the passport?

        Since the time of the Baptism of Rus', the community of the Eastern Slavs was still the Orthodox Faith. A Russian person was certainly Orthodox. On the basis of this Faith, Russian people treated other Orthodox as brothers, were ready to defend them, and defended them regardless of their expenses for the war and giving their lives.
        The Europeans tried to destroy the RUSSIAN WORLD, the Russian community, back in the 15th century, trying to instill the Uniate Church. Ivan the Terrible rejected and drove away
        1. +1
          5 March 2023 14: 10
          I am indifferent to questions of religion, but at the same time I am Russian by origin and by conviction. And there are many such people.
      6. 0
        5 March 2023 08: 49
        Quote: Vladimir80
        Here the main question is how to define this national identity, belonging? By last name, by the language we speak, or by the column in the passport?


        This is not the main question at all. Who needs to join. The main issue is that we were forbidden to be Russians in our own land. In each speech they push their multinational people. And a little Russians will raise their heads at once. Why? Yes, everything is as simple as God's day: the authorities will somehow agree with the diasporas and what kind of relations they have with the Russian authorities anyway. But it would be unrealistic for such a government to agree with the united Russian people, they know this and are therefore afraid of infringement on us in their own country. But in the end, the Bandera people turn out to be right that we are slaves on our own land. But such a situation will not last forever, either the donkey will die or the padishah. I hope the padishah we will survive
      7. +2
        5 March 2023 09: 29
        If a person does not realize that he is part of his people, then nothing. For such ethnic impotents from the Russian people, there is even a word - vyrus. That is, a person who is Russian not by awareness, but by origin, but who has lost his spiritual connection with the Russian people.
      8. 0
        10 March 2023 22: 51
        Quote: Vladimir80
        the main question is how to define this national self-consciousness, belonging?


        Why is it risky to call yourself Russian in Russia


        Slavic peoples prevent these "French" from profiting and robbing peoples
      9. 0
        12 March 2023 02: 25
        If it is necessary to explain who the Russians are, then it is pointless to explain.
    2. +27
      4 March 2023 06: 34
      I agree completely!
      The author raised a very important topic. This issue must be resolved, but act very carefully and thoughtfully. And this work is not for a year or two and not for a couple of decrees, but systematic and long-term work for a long period.
      At one time I got acquainted with the Malay experience in solving national problems - you can borrow something from them. And even from currently hated Europe, we also have a little to learn. But first of all, our national traditions should be taken into account.
      1. -9
        4 March 2023 07: 20
        It is known that a Russian peasant cooks cabbage soup from an ax. Mr. Biryukov managed to write a long article out of the statements of one fool, providing it with another instruction to the Russian leadership on how to do it, which in turn gave commentators another reason to sprinkle ashes on their heads and urge them to learn at least a little from someone neither was. It is regrettable that the author is not familiar with Shaman's work - his song "Let's Get Up" for some time became the anthem of the Russian patriotic forces, until the same authorities "wiped" it. Although, of course, Mr. Biryukov from Luhansk knows better, maybe it is.
        1. +1
          4 March 2023 20: 26
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          It is known that a Russian peasant cooks cabbage soup from an ax. Mr. Biryukov managed to write a long article out of the statements of one fool, providing it with another instruction to the Russian leadership on how to do it, which in turn gave commentators another reason to sprinkle ashes on their heads and urge them to learn at least a little from someone neither was. It is regrettable that the author is not familiar with Shaman's work - his song "Let's Get Up" for some time became the anthem of the Russian patriotic forces, until the same authorities "wiped" it. Although, of course, Mr. Biryukov from Luhansk knows better, maybe it is.

          In addition, Comrade Biryukov, deliberately or by "oversight", did not cite a complete slogan
          The main slogan of the NWO is the Chechen slogan “Akhmat is strength” (which is always supplemented with the words “Allahu Akbar”).
          , which, (I myself have repeatedly heard) sounds like this
          “Akhmat is strength, Russia is strength, Donbass is invincible!” (after which it is supplemented with the words "Allahu Akbar").
    3. man
      +4
      4 March 2023 15: 02
      "a people without national self-consciousness is manure on which other peoples grow" (c) Dostoevsky. If Russian nationalism had not been banned in Russia, it would not have lost in Ukraine either. and all this svo would not be needed. and the country would not initially have collapsed.
      I categorically believe that such discussions can only be held in peacetime!
      1. +1
        5 March 2023 00: 28
        If national self-consciousness is not a simulacrum generated by purposeful propaganda, then it will overcome any, the most difficult trials: all sorts of difficulties of peaceful life, and the most difficult military hardships.
    4. -2
      4 March 2023 18: 58
      if Russian nationalism had not been banned in Russia, it would not have lost in Ukraine either

      Russian nationalism in Ukraine is the "right sector", "Russian Volunteer Corps" - did they lose? Yes, they are untwisted as they can. They know what they're doing. But does the author understand that he is pulling in the same direction? Do you want decolonization?
    5. +1
      5 March 2023 00: 15
      so this is the problem ... they drove the Russians into the basements in Azov, who were denied being Russians in 2011, the enemy took advantage of this, but anyone would take advantage of it, only with us ... how everything is calm - the Russians, multinational people, how kipish what kind - we are Russians, the Russian people, that it was so in the Second World War, that now ... Russian nationalism is mandatory, otherwise we will get novipiyu, not Russia ...
      1. +1
        5 March 2023 07: 07
        . on Azov they drove the Russians into the basements

        Maybe they had Russian surnames, but according to tattoos, ideologies are real demons, conductors of Western false teachings (fascism and Bandera).
        1. -2
          5 March 2023 14: 50
          this arose from the fact that they were forbidden to be Russians in their country
        2. 0
          7 March 2023 21: 30
          All Nazi groups were sponsored by Hasid Kolomoisky, thus creating a pretext for war
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      15 March 2023 00: 26
      On one talk show (it’s impossible to call it just a TV show, it’s not in trend) for a long time they tried to formulate on the topic of CBO. What is RUSSOPHOBIA. Exhausted ... experts Listed everything - culture. language. territory and a lot of things .. but somehow SOMETHING was not ENOUGH.
      And the casket opened simply - see.
      Russophobia - Wikipedia.

      en.wikipedia.org›Russophobia
      Russophobia is a biased, suspicious, hostile, hostile attitude towards the Russian people, Russia, the Russian language, Russians, a specific trend in ethnophobia...

      Yes, of course, and to the Russian civilization and the peoples belonging to it. At the same time, they (the peoples) remained SELF - with their own language. culture. territory ...
  2. -36
    4 March 2023 06: 08
    It all started with the obscurantist Bolsheviks ....
    1. +15
      4 March 2023 06: 33
      Quote: Hagakure
      It all started with the obscurantist Bolsheviks ....

      Here the Bolsheviks just had no problems with nationalities. There were no mono-ethnic republics with their charters.
      1. +23
        4 March 2023 07: 08
        Quote: Stas157

        . There were no mono-ethnic republics with their charters.
        But it's true!
        In the republics, according to "statutes", there was a mandatory study of the Russian language, a single and not "own" monetary unit, and a single Red Army. And every second secretary of any republican Central Committee was Russian.

        But in Africa there were no mono-ethnic republics. There, the borders of the new republics were drawn along the line, and this was the cause of endless ethnic conflicts. And let's do it like in Africa, we had all kinds of idiocy, but there was no such thing ..... let's try!
        1. +6
          4 March 2023 10: 57
          You are not quite right, I, about the borders, Nikita did just that, see the map.
        2. +1
          5 March 2023 13: 20
          As for the second secretaries, not quite so. Firstly, this practice most often extended to non-Slavic union republics and autonomies of the RSFSR. The main thing is that they were for the most part not local. Most often Russians, but there were also Ukrainians, Belarusians, and representatives of other nations. For example, the second president of Moldova, Luchinsky, a Moldovan by nationality, in Soviet times was at one time the second secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Tajikistan. By the way, the local Russian almost never held the post of second secretary. In Ukraine and Belarus, the second secretaries of regional committees, city committees, district committees were both local and non-local, both Ukrainians and Belarusians, and Russians, and occasionally representatives of other nationalities. On the other hand, sometimes in national regions, locals were elected second secretaries from among "their" nationalities. Especially when a non-local was chosen as the first secretary.
      2. +13
        4 March 2023 08: 30
        And who drew the administrative boundaries of the nationalists? In the Republic of Ingushetia there were very few of them ..
        1. +10
          4 March 2023 13: 04
          Quote: Hagakure
          And who drew the administrative boundaries of the nationalists? In the Republic of Ingushetia there were very few of them ..

          Administrative, not state.
          Traitors made them state.
        2. +1
          4 March 2023 16: 47
          And the Orthodox Tsars were ethnic Germans. And the Russians were a enslaved people. But the Tatars are not! What delight!
        3. +1
          5 March 2023 13: 12
          How little? More than 50 provinces at the end of the Russian Empire. There were several other areas. Plus, part of the provinces and regions were part of the governor-general or governorships.
          1. 0
            5 March 2023 18: 24
            Under Peter 1, there were about a dozen. Then it went on increasing. In general - I agree.
            1. 0
              6 March 2023 00: 08
              Under Peter and before Catherine's provincial reform, there was still an intermediate level of provinces between the province and the county. The provinces that arose during the time of Catherine II were predominantly heirs of the former provinces. Plus, new provinces appeared as territories were annexed.
      3. +28
        4 March 2023 08: 49
        In general, I agree - the Bolsheviks pretty much plowed in the national question. From the best of intentions - but still plowed .. But! At the same time, resettlement on the territory of the USSR was strictly controlled, and no one moved to the territory of Rus' in whole villages! Only really needed specialists were allowed in here.. Look at the photos of our cities from the times of Soviet power - are there many Asian or Caucasian faces on them? Yes, count on the fingers - solid Slavs .. It was not the Bolsheviks who brought tens of millions of characters absolutely alien to us culturally to Russia - but of course the Soviet government is to blame for all the current troubles .. Ugh ..
        1. +3
          4 March 2023 18: 27
          Quote: paul3390
          resettlement on the territory of the USSR was strictly controlled, and no one moved to the territory of Rus' in whole villages! Only really needed specialists were allowed in here.

          Nuda, well, yes, "The USSR is an international state, but the transfer of nationalists is strictly under the control of the state !!"
          You yourself understand - what kind of wildest heresy are you talking about (and 21 people agree with you) ????!!! Yes, in the USSR - push you IT- you would be accused of nationalism, and even maybe you would be imprisoned ...
          There was no need then to leave the republics - they were supplied better than the RSFSR and the salaries there were also albeit a little - but more.
          And with all this, in Moscow and Leningrad there was a "limit" - remember this?
          And the Tyumen oil industry was Dagestan without exception, and the gold mining was Ingush, and the collective farm markets were Azerbaijani ...
          All the small families of ZILovsky / AZLKovsky / others were crammed with "come in large numbers" - from all over the country ...
          Yeah, yeah, "specialists are very necessary" ..
          My uncle fled there from his native collective farm in the early 1970s and my father-in-law's brother.
          Extremely necessary specialists on the assembly line - a veterinarian and a tractor driver ...

          Of course, you are crippled - a maskvich, go ahead - only here is a trouble - you are writing down our Kazakhs, Buryats, Tatars and all other types of "chernenki" as "Tajiks".
          The anecdote is that they are our citizens not from yesterday, but all their lives, like their fathers and grandfathers from the time of the RSFSR.

          And yes, the Muscovites never worked with their hands and will not work, so we went and will go
          1. 0
            4 March 2023 19: 33
            He will not understand you, just like 21 (points) assenting ... Such people only by chance measure the skulls with rulers from the Russian side ... The same dungeon workers
        2. +2
          5 March 2023 13: 27
          A fairly large number of Tatars have always lived in Moscow, Gorky, Kuibyshev, Saratov, Ulyanovsk, the cities of the Urals and Western Siberia. There were fairly large Georgian and Armenian communities in Moscow and Leningrad. A large number of Armenians lived in Rostov-on-Don and the Krasnodar Territory. Many Tatars, Bashkirs, and Kazakhs lived in Orenburg and Astrakhan. So I would not be so categorical.
      4. +8
        4 March 2023 09: 18
        Quote: Stas157
        Quote: Hagakure
        It all started with the obscurantist Bolsheviks ....

        Here the Bolsheviks just had no problems with nationalities. There were no mono-ethnic republics with their charters.

        What do you have with the history of the problem! It started with them. Under the tsar, there were provinces, the name was in honor of the central city (for example, Kherson). After the revolution, the RSFSR was created, and then national republics appeared. hi
        1. +20
          4 March 2023 09: 42
          then there were national republics.

          Did the Bolsheviks have a choice?? Here, put yourself in their place - the country is in a civil war, the empire has fallen apart piece by piece .. On the national outskirts there are a lot of armed nationalist formations. And among them - there are pro-Bolsheviks, taking up. Their leaders come to you and say - peasants, we are for Soviet power, but we want our own republics. Yes - under the control of the Center, but - their own. And only so..

          What would you do in Ilyich's place? Would they crush them with bayonets in order to create a unitary state? And the bayonets - do you have the right amount? You - dare to unleash a new round of war inside an already broken country, but this time - a national war? Is it true?

          Understand - RI fell apart into national pieces without any Bolsheviks. This is not their fault. Or do you think that Kolchak or Denikin would be able to return the Baltic States, Finland, the Caucasus, Central Asia to the Empire ??? Yes, hell there - the navel would have been torn! The result would be exactly the same as in 1991 ..

          So - it was the Bolsheviks who managed to keep the peoples of the former Republic of Ingushetia together for another 70 years! And in what way - yes what was. No one gave them much choice.. But as soon as the Bolsheviks were gone, Russia immediately rolled back to the borders of the first Romanovs.. So, whose fault is this? Really again the Soviet power?
          1. +1
            5 March 2023 13: 47
            No one forced the Bolsheviks to create such formations as Karelia, Khakassia, Mordovia and a number of others within such borders that the Russians at the time of creation already prevailed there numerically. At the very least, it was not worth including in the composition of many republics and autonomies territories with an absolutely predominant Russian population. A significant part of the autonomies was created after the end of the Civil War, on the territory of many of them there were no serious nationalist movements. What was the special need for the enlargement of Belarus in 1924 and 1926, as a result of which its territory and population tripled? Or in the transfer of Donbass from the RSFSR to the Ukrainian SSR in the early 20s? The majority of the population of these territories did not express a desire to become part of Ukraine and Belarus, the decision was made in a voluntaristic way. Or what, the inhabitants of Guryev, Petropavlovsk, Orenburg really wanted to become part of the Kyrgyz Territory-Kyrgyz ASSR (future Kazakhstan). It’s good that Orenburg and the province were removed from its composition in 1925. Why was the Russian city of Petrozavodsk made the capital of the Karelian autonomy? Okay, autonomy within the RSFSR is half the trouble, not critical. But why it was necessary to transfer territories with a Russian majority to other union republics, I do not understand. Okay, we came to the conclusion in 1936 that Kazakhstan had grown to the level of a union republic. Then it would still be necessary to clarify the boundaries of the new republic and at least ask the inhabitants of the Russian territories whether they want to be part of the new union republic. Maybe they would like to remain part of the RSFSR?
        2. +9
          4 March 2023 13: 18
          Quote: fa2998
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: Hagakure
          It all started with the obscurantist Bolsheviks ....

          Here the Bolsheviks just had no problems with nationalities. There were no mono-ethnic republics with their charters.

          What do you have with the history of the problem! It started with them. Under the tsar, there were provinces, the name was in honor of the central city (for example, Kherson). After the revolution, the RSFSR was created, and then national republics appeared. hi

          The Bolsheviks were immediately after the king?
          So who has problems with history, if you have thrown out of history the whole period of the bourgeois republic of the Provisional Government.
          It was during the temporary declared independence of the Kingdom of Poland, the Principality of Finland, the Central Rada.
          And the Provisional Government agreed to this.
          So the collapse of the Republic of Ingushetia did not begin under the Bolsheviks.
          The Bolsheviks had to assemble the country, taking into account the already existing situation.
          Although, of course, the division into national republics was a mistake.
          Stalin proposed national-cultural autonomy.
          But Lenin insisted on his plan. Apparently with an eye on the world revolution.
          The new Soviet republics were supposed to join the Union, not Russia.
          1. +2
            5 March 2023 13: 54
            Stalin proposed not national-cultural autonomies, but national-territorial autonomies. He repeatedly criticized the idea of ​​the Austrian social-lemocrats about national-cultural autonomy. Many ASSRs and autonomous regions were created not without his participation, but some on his initiative. But at first he believed that all national formations should be part of the RSFSR (the "autonomization" plan). Then he abandoned this idea after Lenin's criticism and agreed with the idea of ​​creating a new superstructure in the form of the USSR, which would include a number of large national entities on an equal footing with the RSFSR.
    2. +28
      4 March 2023 06: 36
      Quote: Hagakure
      It all started with the obscurantist Bolsheviks ....

      It all started with fools... Sadly, they are the first of Russia's troubles.

      And if you are interested in finding out who separated Ukraine, then you should not take the word of the authors, but learn the materiel.

      The UNR was created by Hrushevsky and Skoropadsky. And the first thing they did was to separate from the RSFSR and sign peace with the Germans in February 1918.
      1. +6
        4 March 2023 08: 13
        That's right, roads in Russia have become noticeably better, but about everything else...
      2. -3
        4 March 2023 08: 32
        You seem to consider yourself to be smart? .......
      3. +6
        4 March 2023 12: 56
        Recently, I saw another one on the wall: "Russia is for Russians." tried to imagine Russia with only Russians: without the Caucasus (Karachay-Cherkessia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Ingushetia, Chechnya, Ossetia, Dagestan), without almost all of Siberia (Khanty-Mansiysk district, Yamalo-Nenets district, Yakutia, Chukotka, Tuva, Buryatia, Altai, Khakassia, Nenets district) without almost the entire Volga region (Kalmykia, Bashkiria, Tatarstan, Mordovia, Chuvashia, Mari El, Komi, Udmurtia). What remains? Muscovy?
        There are more than 200 nationalities in the Russian Federation, more than 100 languages.
        And who are the Russians? This is a kind of community of different clans and peoples, united by a common culture, language, residence, etc. Even according to genetic analysis, the Russians of the south, the middle zone and the north are very different. And if you add in the many intermarriages throughout history...
        In general, there are still, unfortunately, enough fools.
        Russia is our common home. And in a common house one must live peacefully, in harmony.
        1. +6
          4 March 2023 14: 02
          tried to imagine Russia with only Russians: without the Caucasus (Karachay-Cherkessia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Ingushetia, Chechnya, Ossetia, Dagestan), without almost all of Siberia (Khanty-Mansiysk district, Yamalo-Nenets district, Yakutia, Chukotka, Tuva, Buryatia, Altai, Khakassia, Nenets district) without almost the entire Volga region (Kalmykia, Bashkiria, Tatarstan, Mordovia, Chuvashia, Mari El, Komi, Udmurtia).
          It's fucked you handed out the whole territory???? Are you a saboteur????
          1. -1
            4 March 2023 14: 13
            And the idea of ​​"Russia for the Russians" does not lead to this? Or do you offer all non-Russians - under the root?
          2. -4
            4 March 2023 19: 36
            And since when is it the territory of the Russians? And you didn’t fuck up turning the question like that, you didn’t ask yourself, can someone else appropriate this theft?
          3. +2
            5 March 2023 14: 06
            You would at least study the national composition of the subjects of the Russian Federation. In Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, YaNAO, NAO, Chukotka Okrug, Khakassia, Buryatia, Komi, Altai Republic, Karelia, Mordovia, and Adygea, Russians absolutely predominate. In the largest autonomous okrug in terms of population and economy, KhMAO, the Khanty and Mansi, combined, make up 3 percent of the population. All autonomous okrugs, like the Jewish Autonomous Region, are in fact Russian territorial entities. In Udmurtia and Mari El, Russians are the largest group of the population. Russians predominate in a significant part of the territory of Yakutia; in general, they are not much inferior in number to the Yakuts in terms of numbers. Chuvash make up the majority of the population of Chuvashia, but they are absolutely loyal people. The largest ethnic group in Bashkiria is also Russian.
        2. +2
          4 March 2023 14: 55
          Don't confuse nationality with nationality. Russians are a nationality. Russians are people living on the territory of Russia. We need to live in harmony, yes. But at the same time, I do not want the Russian nationality to cease to exist. I am Russian. And I'm Russian. And with the policy of our leadership, there will be no Russians. And the country for me is first of all people. And if there are no Russians in Russia, then such a country is not needed.
        3. +4
          5 March 2023 04: 02
          Russians live in Khanty Mansiysk) There are Khanty there, but more according to documents) At one time, people did it for themselves, so that they would be paid an increased pension)
          There are 10 real Khanty people there)
          It’s the same in Chukotka) I studied at the university with the Chukchi)) The same Chukchi as me and my neighbor on the desk who came from Saransk (Mordovia). We also had 2 Chuvashinas. One headman, the second not the headman)
          If they had not said that they were Chuvash, we would not have known.
          We had two from Buryatia. One is small, the other is bigger) One is Russian like a drop of water, the second is a little darker. There were also Kalmyks, I often went to their fraternity)
          In short, if you put us all side by side, you won't understand the difference. Of course, the Kalmyks differ in appearance, but in mentality they are the same as we are. The best way to communicate with them.
          I studied at Rudn) At the engineering ..
          The issue of nationality was not raised. More often the question of nationality is between Russians and Asians and Caucasians. We didn't have them.
          And I studied with the Tatars at school. And then I found out that they were Tatars when I had already finished school a long time ago and arrived in Moscow))
          At school, we did not know who was by nationality. There is the same mentality, everything is the same. Well, we studied together.
          This is to say that a Tatar is as Russian as we are Tatars .. If there is a difference between us, it is not big. There is no difference at all with Mordvins and Chuvashs, they are more Russian than we are)
          Russians are unifying for all. If there are no Russians, there will be no others. Fragmentation will begin.
          Now there is propaganda against the Russians. Nationality is being destroyed. This cannot be allowed.
          And such a large flow of migrants with a mentality alien to us contributes to this. They create a strong gap. If there should be migrants, then not in such a large number. It escalates the situation.
          1. 0
            5 March 2023 09: 46
            Differences in nationality - a dead end. In appearance too. The only sign of belonging to the Soviet (Russian) people is civilization, education, worldview.
            Otherwise, we'll get confused. I was acquainted with a Mongol-Jewish woman... height 175, thin waist, beautiful breasts, a broad Mongol face with a large Jewish nose, burning black hair, light brown, almost yellow eyes and a character that is necessary - she was almost expelled from the institute for "breaking through the wall by the dean's son" (in fact, it turned out to be a small dent in the drywall). But in terms of thinking and habits, she is an ordinary Soviet girl.
            The only possible conclusion is to return the "Soviet man" nationality, and then what a Khant, what a Kalmyk, what an Armenian are equally ours, if they speak Russian and behave like civilized people, and not crap in the stairwell. But whoever shits in the entrance, smokes in the train and paws the girl in line for the ass - let him be a Russian.
        4. +2
          5 March 2023 14: 17
          I agree with the last paragraph. However, I want to remind you that in most of the national entities you listed, Russians either make up the absolute majority of the population, or are the largest ethnic group in terms of numbers. Some are national entities in name only. Well, how can the Khanty and Mansi dominate in Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, when there are 30 thousand of them out of 1,5 million of the population of the district, that is, only 3 percent? In Khakassia and Karelia, Khakasses and Karelians, respectively, are around 10 percent. In Mordovia, Mordovians have a third of the population, and they are divided into two sub-ethnoses. And 60 percent are Russians. I can give you an alignment for each republic, district, but I'm too lazy. Yes, and without me you can find information at least on the Internet. And it must also be taken into account that a significant part of the representatives of other peoples of Russia became Russified, assimilated. The mass of Mordovians, Tatars, representatives of other peoples only nominally belong to these ethnic groups. Sociologists argue that the assimilation processes among the majority of non-Russian peoples have accelerated in the post-Soviet decades. The exception is the peoples of the North Caucasus, the Tuvans and a few other peoples. As for the Tatars, it depends on the place of residence. Tatars in Tatarstan, Bashkiria and a number of nearby territories have a pronounced self-consciousness, but in most of the country's territory they quickly assimilate.
          1. 0
            5 March 2023 19: 14
            Yes, that's right. But I want to say that the concept of "pure-blooded Russian" does not exist in principle. And many "Russians" today are assimilated "non-Russians", moreover, there are often no one in the blood of their ancestors. And Russian culture itself today is a multinational fusion of different cultures and different peoples (assimilation is mutual). And it is necessary to develop and preserve, if possible, all the cultures of Russia - this only mutually enriches, but opposing the cultures and peoples of Russia (and not only Russia) will not lead to anything good. And in this regard, the slogan "Russia is for the Russians" is, in my opinion, very harmful and simply stupid.
      4. +1
        4 March 2023 13: 20
        Quote: ivan2022
        Quote: Hagakure
        It all started with the obscurantist Bolsheviks ....

        It all started with fools... Sadly, they are the first of Russia's troubles.

        And if you are interested in finding out who separated Ukraine, then you should not take the word of the authors, but learn the materiel.

        The UNR was created by Hrushevsky and Skoropadsky. And the first thing they did was to separate from the RSFSR and sign peace with the Germans in February 1918.

        That's it. And so it was....
      5. +2
        5 March 2023 02: 25
        Skoropadsky - lieutenant general of the Russian Imperial Army, cavalry guard, who was part of the retinue of His Imperial Majesty.
        and signed in February 1918 peace with the Germans

        The Bolsheviks signed the same separatist Brest peace in the same place in Brest with a difference of several days.
      6. 0
        5 March 2023 13: 57
        What territory did the UNR actually control? That's why it was necessary to include the territories of historical Novorossiya with a predominantly Russian-speaking population into the Ukrainian SSR?
    3. +18
      4 March 2023 07: 35
      Yeah. Only the Bolsheviks are to blame. As always, we are looking for the extreme
      1. +19
        4 March 2023 08: 13
        Yeah. Only the Bolsheviks are to blame
        Nah ... more Polovtsy and Pechenegs. laughing
      2. -10
        4 March 2023 08: 54
        For you, the Bolsheviks are saints? For me, so Jewish nationality.
        1. +17
          4 March 2023 09: 40
          Quote: Andrey Stavropolsky
          For you, the Bolsheviks are saints? For me, so Jewish nationality.

          Yes, but the Russian Georgian Stalin pretty much thinned out the Jewish stratum in the party.
          But the Bolsheviks ended in 91, and for some reason the number of Jews in power increased.
          Quote: fa2998
          .Already after the revolution, the RSFSR was created, and then national republics appeared.

          In 91, the "democrats" gave the subjects of the Russian Federation the right to secede from the Russian Federation.
        2. +3
          4 March 2023 09: 49
          For you, the Bolsheviks are saints? For me, so Jewish nationality.

          For you, apparently the 90th saints, and the mobilization arranged by Putin wink
      3. +1
        5 March 2023 14: 29
        No, the Bolsheviks collected the territories of the former empire. They have a lot of merit. But they also made a lot of mistakes, including in national-territorial issues. Moreover, in relation to some regions, decisions in the field of borders and status were made quite reasonable, in relation to others they were controversial and clearly erroneous.
    4. +21
      4 March 2023 09: 40
      It all started with obscurantist Bolsheviks

      Obscurantist Bolsheviks, as you put it, built factories, invented military aircraft and tanks, which are actively involved in their own. And our oligarchs did nothing but feast on the corpse of the USSR and earn money in their own pocket without developing industry.
      As well as the obscurantist Bolsheviks, they were able to change the state that the small peoples had. The Russian Empire was an extremely chauvinistic state. And most of the Russians pursued a national policy by forming national republics. And then in these republics there was more patriotism than now in their own country.
      1. +21
        4 March 2023 11: 44
        What are we talking about, there will be no Bolsheviks / Soviet power for as soon as 40 years - but for people like "this one", they will be to blame for a hundred years ahead, they are all fighting with the Bolsheviks)
        1. +4
          4 March 2023 14: 12
          what are we talking about, the Bolsheviks / Soviet power as soon as 40 years

          Our authorities think that the people, as in the book of 1984, do not remember anything and you can say whatever you want and the people shove. But it's not like that. Most probably remember about Putin's galoshes. And the USSR could produce these galoshes, and also aircraft that were 100% made up of their own components. And now we can’t make planes ourselves, recently an article was on VO.
          1. +1
            4 March 2023 15: 22
            And he also said that in the USSR there was a powerful defense industry and heavy industry. Witnesses of Putin's galoshes do not remember about this.
            1. +4
              4 March 2023 15: 30
              Quote: Machiavelli
              And he also said that in the USSR there was a powerful defense industry and heavy industry. Witnesses of Putin's galoshes do not remember about this.

              Personally, I remember everything he said. Here is Jason Statham on a galosh in "Mechanics" dissecting.
      2. -9
        4 March 2023 12: 18
        And also the Bolsheviks were the first in the world !!!!! legalized abortion, destroyed the institution of the (Russian) family, destroyed (squeezed out of the border) a huge layer of the smartest, educated people, drew adm. national borders, etc. and so on. .... Do not idealize your comrades. I think under Stalin you would not want to live .... For reference - the former Komsomol member and admirer of Stalin himself.
        1. +13
          4 March 2023 13: 38
          Quote: Hagakure
          And also the Bolsheviks were the first in the world !!!!! legalized abortion, destroyed the institution of the (Russian) family, destroyed (squeezed out of the border) a huge layer of the smartest, educated people, drew adm. national borders, etc. and so on. .... Do not idealize your comrades. I think under Stalin you would not want to live .... For reference - the former Komsomol member and admirer of Stalin himself.

          It can be seen that he has changed his shoes. What you write is a typical scam. Take one short period in the history of the USSR and extend it to the entire time of existence.
          Otherwise, you would have known that in the USSR there was a cult, families and what a rise in the birth rate was in the eighties, what benefits were introduced, that there was a period when there was a ban on abortion.
          Your "huge" layer is several hundred people. Mostly talkers, and therefore "philosophical ships", and not engineering ones.
          Most remained in Russia.
          But under your Yeltsin, SEVENTY thousand scientists, engineers, designers were thrown out of Russia.
          On one of the programs, the notorious Mr. Sytin, a very self-satisfied pepper, was asked - what do you produce?
          And he proudly answered - I produce meanings.
          It’s a pity no one asked him, but will you also eat the meanings in which case?
          Those who grow bread will have something to eat.
          Mr. Sytin and others like him will come to the peasant to buy bread for meanings?
          So for me, uncle Petya, a combine operator, is a hundred times more useful for the country and society than sytins, who do not produce anything, but devour in three throats.
          It was mostly the Sytins who left on the Philosophical steamships.
          And they might as well not leave. It was their choice not to accept Soviet power.
          And this is - would you like to live at that time - this is demagoguery, you forgot the truth - times do not choose, they live in them.
          1. +1
            4 March 2023 18: 57
            Quote: Ulan.1812
            what a rise in the birth rate was in the eighties,
            -
            1-2 children in the families of my classmates from 1977 to 1987. No more ... Saratov Zavolzhye
            Quote: Ulan.1812
            what benefits were introduced
            - Do you consider childlessness tax as a benefit or what?
            1. +5
              4 March 2023 20: 57
              Quote: your1970
              1-2 children in the families of my classmates from 1977 to 1987. No more ... Saratov Zavolzhye

              In the USSR, the largest number of children were born in 1986 - 5,611 million. In the RSFSR in the same year 2,486 million. Until 1990 there was a stable increase, then a minus. But the essence is not important to you, but to cheat the USSR, right?
              Quote: your1970
              tax on childlessness do you attribute to benefits or what?

              Carrot and stick. Moreover, the component of the whip is scanty against the background of gingerbread. The tax on childlessness is justified in the context of the demographic crisis today. Kind of like progressive taxation. From which your favorite power turns up its nose, like hell from incense. wink
              1. +3
                5 March 2023 02: 39
                it's not so simple. Pay attention to what nationalities was the growth of the population in the USSR.
                1. +1
                  5 March 2023 09: 40
                  Quote from solar
                  Due to what nationalities was the population growth in the USSR.

                  No one argues that the southern nationalities had a higher birth rate. But as I wrote above, in the RSFSR until the 90th year there was a stable increase, amounting to hundreds of thousands a year.
                  https://infotables.ru/statistika/31-rossijskaya-federatsiya/784-rozhdaemost-smertnost
                  1. +1
                    5 March 2023 11: 24
                    But as I wrote above, in the RSFSR until the 90th year there was a stable increase, amounting to hundreds of thousands a year.

                    It was about the Russians, and not about all the inhabitants of Russia. Do you think that in Russia the birth rate is the same for all nationalities? You are wrong.
                    1. +2
                      5 March 2023 12: 53
                      Quote from solar
                      It was about the Russians, and not about all the inhabitants of Russia.

                      Do not engage in taftology. If you try to understand the topic, then 100% you will find information that the Russian population also increased in number before the 90th year. And not a little.
                2. +2
                  5 March 2023 14: 34
                  I have doubts about this sign. I just researched this a little. Lithuanians had better demographic indicators in the 60s and 80s than Estonians (named Estonians on the plate) and Latvians. This table suggests the opposite. I know for sure that this is not true.
        2. +2
          4 March 2023 14: 20
          Quote: Hagakure
          I think under Stalin you would not want to live ....

          And why is that? Under Stalin, one of my grandfathers was a private shoemaker, the bloody NKVD sent another to work in a mine in the Moscow region at that time, where he received up to 300 rubles in the 60s, they allocated half a house, and he was one of the very first in the village bought a TV.
        3. 0
          4 March 2023 19: 39
          Yes, the whole country saw such former ones :)))))) you beat with your heel in the chest for justice in the 80s and in the 90s the same free businessmen sold their Motherland :))))
    5. +20
      4 March 2023 10: 05
      Quote: Hagakure
      It all started with the obscurantist Bolsheviks ....

      Under the "obscurantists - Bolsheviks" there was a column in the passport - nationality. And when your spiritual mentors came, they withdrew this column from the passport.
      For what? And in order to blur the very concept - Russian.
      1. -1
        4 March 2023 12: 26
        What makes you think that they are mine ... My homeland is the USSR, which was stolen from me in 1991. And for me personally, this is a tragedy. I never became a Russian and I'm not likely to... And Love for my Motherland allows me to criticize the Bolsheviks.
        1. -1
          4 March 2023 13: 44
          Quote: Hagakure
          What makes you think that they are mine ... My homeland is the USSR, which was stolen from me in 1991. And for me personally, this is a tragedy. I never became a Russian and I'm not likely to... And Love for my Motherland allows me to criticize the Bolsheviks.

          Criticize, yes. But objectively. And you lacked objectivity. I gave examples above.
          1. +1
            4 March 2023 14: 40
            Are you the last resort in the criterion of objectivity? ... I will disappoint you - this is just your and my opinion, nothing more ...
            1. +3
              4 March 2023 17: 39
              Quote: Hagakure
              Are you the last resort in the criterion of objectivity? ... I will disappoint you - this is just your and my opinion, nothing more ...

              And you dispute it. Well, for example, the attitude towards the family in the USSR? Or the fact that in the USSR there was a period when abortions were banned.
              No dear, these are facts, not my personal opinion.
              1. -2
                4 March 2023 19: 30
                I would find something to write, believe me. The question is to whom and why?
              2. -1
                5 March 2023 14: 38
                Abortion for medical reasons has never been banned. As well as abortions in cases where the pregnancy occurred as a result of rape. In practice, those women who wanted to have an abortion still had them illegally.
        2. +4
          4 March 2023 14: 27
          Quote: Hagakure
          My homeland is the USSR, which was stolen from me in 1991.

          Like many. Did the Bolsheviks steal anything?


          1. 0
            4 March 2023 16: 41
            I will surprise you, dear, but until 1991 there was a one-party system in the USSR. So answer for yourself who is responsible for what.
            1. 0
              4 March 2023 17: 41
              Quote: Hagakure
              I will surprise you, dear, but until 1991 there was a one-party system in the USSR. So answer for yourself who is responsible for what.

              [B] [/ b]
            2. +2
              4 March 2023 17: 41
              Quote: Hagakure
              I will surprise you, dear, but until 1991 there was a one-party system in the USSR. So answer for yourself who is responsible for what.

              That's exactly what BEFORE ... 1991.
              1. -2
                4 March 2023 19: 33
                I didn’t write to you, why are you inflamed? Or are you like that gag?
            3. -2
              4 March 2023 21: 59
              Quote: Hagakure
              but until 1991 the USSR had a one-party system.

              Yeah, the LDPR was registered in 1989. Zhirinovsky gathered crowds at rallies. To one drunk who yelled at the health resort in his name, he said in response: "Do you see that building? (points to the regional committee). You will be the most important person there!"
            4. +1
              5 March 2023 14: 40
              Since the spring of 1990, the activities of other parties were officially allowed, the article on the leading role of the CPSU was canceled. In fact, other parties have been operating since 1989.
          2. +4
            4 March 2023 19: 10
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Quote: Hagakure
            My homeland is the USSR, which was stolen from me in 1991.

            Like many. Did the Bolsheviks steal anything?

            I hesitate to remind you that the state apparatus from the region and above consisted of 100% of the members of the CPSU.
            Then it's up to you - they were agents of the CIA / Mossad lol, people devoted to the Motherland, patriots, mediocrity, careerists, and so on. This is absolutely not important - the important thing is that with their connivance and under their leadership, the USSR was gone.
            Yes, the CIA made efforts - but du / crayfish and careerists in the CPSU harmed the country a million times more and more.
            1. 0
              4 March 2023 19: 35
              It goes without saying that everything always rises to the top. If the state apparatus is not cleaned periodically, then it falls apart. What is happening now. Entirely smart and not particularly careerists, such as Zolotov. In such scenarios, I do not see a future for Russia. And no purges. We are not in our 37th year.
  3. +44
    4 March 2023 06: 13
    I have always considered and still consider myself Russian... let them kill me or imprison me for this, but I will not give up my nationality until my death.
    For one simple reason... my entire worldview rests on Russian culture, history, traditions, grandmother's tales, epics, poems, riddles, sayings and then.
    And I do not accept people who call for abandoning all this for the sake of some kind of political trend in our state.
    At first I am a Russian person, and only then a Russian, and in no way vice versa ... and I am not afraid to say this to everyone in public.
    1. +5
      4 March 2023 06: 40
      You really can ever be killed or imprisoned, but not because you are Russian, but because the Russians in their country have never been masters, have never been able to restore order, and as a result, everyone else is simply tired of this mess .. .
    2. +22
      4 March 2023 09: 03
      I have always considered and consider myself Russian
      The same story. God have mercy, we are Russians! What delight!
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    4. 0
      5 March 2023 14: 43
      I am Russian both by origin and by inner conviction. I am a Russian as a citizen of the Russian Federation. One does not contradict the other.
  4. +33
    4 March 2023 06: 18
    .Why is it risky to call yourself Russian in Russia

    Yes, I recently found out (on the VO article) that it turns out that the terrible flow of emigrants under which the whole of Europe groans is much less than the number of our "saviors" - guest workers who are brought to Russia!

    Where are we rolling? The replacement of the Russian ethnic group can be a worse blow than any Western one with their Russophobic policies.
    1. +24
      4 March 2023 06: 25
      And not just imported, but given citizenship!
      1. +12
        4 March 2023 09: 42
        Quote: Vladimir80
        And not just imported, but given citizenship!

        Although no one interfered with the introduction of emigration legislation similar to the countries of the Middle East.
        1. 0
          4 March 2023 19: 19
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: Vladimir80
          And not just imported, but given citizenship!

          Although no one interfered with the introduction of emigration legislation similar to the countries of the Middle East.

          You modestly kept silent about my post about exams and a network of 50 teachers in Togliatti
          1. 0
            4 March 2023 20: 18
            Quote: your1970
            You modestly kept silent about my post about exams and a network of 50 teachers in Togliatti

            What are you talking about? belay
    2. -1
      4 March 2023 06: 50
      That's for sure, and the "red master" was not correct and the "white master" turned out to be wrong ..... And where should the peasant go?
      Just emigrate...
      1. 0
        4 March 2023 11: 14
        Quote: ivan2022
        Just emigrate...

        emigration only for Jews
        1. +3
          4 March 2023 12: 56
          Well, at least you got lucky laughing "" "
    3. +1
      4 March 2023 07: 27
      Look at the analytics of Daniil Sachkov on the global planned migration processes, there are plans to bring about 1 billion to the territory of Russia). But this is a relatively long process, and according to what is happening now, apparently Russia will end much earlier, perhaps in our lifetime. The most striking thing for me is that with such an obvious planned genocide, among the Russians there are a lot of those who are fighting against the word "nationalism", for some kind of "tolerance" and so on, as if they themselves are asking for slaughter. As the writer Sorokin accurately noted: the Jews sinned by crucifying Christ, and the Russians also doomed themselves, crucified the Russian man in themselves ..
    4. old
      +5
      4 March 2023 07: 52
      Where are we rolling? The replacement of the Russian ethnic group can be a worse blow than any Western one with their Russophobic policies.

      And do what? To create all the conditions for increasing the birth rate, that is, to improve the standard of living of the population, somehow did not happen before the NWO .. They were busy with other things. Much more important, perhaps. And now and even more so before. Plus (if I may say so) a couple of millions of the able-bodied population who fled Russia in 2022 and a few more millions who would have done it even tomorrow, but they have neither money nor language. The country is large and its own population, that is, Russians, is declining, and after the completion of the NWO, it may remain catastrophically small. Under these conditions, we must thank the leadership of Tajikistan and other republics for the fact that their citizens live even worse.
      1. +5
        4 March 2023 08: 24
        "Create conditions for improving the birth rate." Take a closer look, often the poorer give birth more. The problem is not so simple.
        1. +5
          4 March 2023 08: 39
          The problem is in the heads (souls) ... .....
          ...




          .
        2. +4
          4 March 2023 12: 22
          Quote from Kuziming
          Take a closer look, often more the poor give birth more. The problem is not so simple.

          So you take a look. According to the 2002 census, the average for Russia is 1,4 children per family. And multimillionaires have 2,4 children per family. Poyandexit and you will see that our billionaires are very large fathers! For example, the well-known Abramovich has 6 children. It is understandable, because even if there are 60 of them, they will not deliver any material and physical inconvenience to him (unlike those who make ends meet).

          Your theory doesn't work here. A similar idea is thrown up by those who want to justify the low birth rate in Russia - they say, our people live too well and do not give birth!
          1. -3
            4 March 2023 13: 07
            Explain to me, fool, the high birth rate of Russians (according to statistics, above all in the Republic of Ingushetia)? Just don’t tell me about the ignorance and stupidity of our ancestors and that working hands were needed in the economy - you fill it with others.
          2. +3
            4 March 2023 18: 54
            According to the 2002 census, the average for Russia is 1,4 children per family. And multimillionaires have 2,4 children per family

            and the well-known DAM has 1, the billionaire Usmanov has 0 ... it is very easy to look at the problem only from the material point of view, but it is wrong! moreover, you can find "similar" examples in the Soviet past
          3. +1
            5 March 2023 14: 48
            And Prokhorov, who at one time was richer than Abramovich, has no children at all.) And he was never married.
      2. +3
        4 March 2023 08: 44
        And what to do?

        Return Soviet power. Are there any other reasonable options?
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        2. +3
          4 March 2023 19: 02
          Return Soviet power

          unfortunately, you can't step into the same river twice... you can't live in the past... you have to come up with something that corresponds to the realities!
        3. +1
          5 March 2023 14: 52
          How can you bring back something that wasn't there? Rather, it was from 1917 until the early 20s and from 1989 until the collapse of the USSR. In the interval between these dates, the imitation of Soviet power, but the real power of the party and the state apparatus. I recognize many achievements of the Soviet period, I regret the collapse of the Union, I tend to adhere to leftist views. But I regret to admit that for most of the existence of the USSR there was no real power of the Soviets.
      3. +2
        4 March 2023 14: 33
        Quote: old
        we should say thank you to the leadership of Tajikistan and other republics, for the fact that their citizens live even worse.

        fool
      4. +4
        4 March 2023 19: 28
        Quote: old
        To create all conditions for increasing the birth rate, that is, to improve the standard of living of the population,

        In Switzerland and Denmark, the standard of living is much higher than ours, but ALSO they don’t want to multiply. But in hungry Africa, 5 children are the norm ...
        Judging by income, millionaires should make children by cars, but no 1-2-3, there are a few cases of 5-6 but this is rare
        The problem is not so simple
        1. +1
          4 March 2023 22: 05
          The epitome of equality. In the first place, the female has either a career or entertainment. Or, because of their youth, many children will not be pulled.
      5. +2
        4 March 2023 20: 16
        And what to do?

        1) Reduce the cost of housing - for example, you can build housing using less show-off (ala glass like in skyscrapers), and less expensive materials.
        2) Stop building housing in metropolitan areas. - in megacities, the land itself is expensive.
        3) to build satellite cities - and in the same cities to build schools, hospitals, factories near houses - so that the family does not have to mess around 50 km.
        4) Reduce the construction of super-heaped sports facilities, and all kinds of Formula 1 tracks, pay less attention to shifting the next paving slabs - then you will not need so many workers.
    5. +10
      4 March 2023 08: 18
      than the number of our "saviors" -guest workers who are brought to Russia!
      They are imported to all regions of Russia. In addition, regional guest workers are imported from the national regions of Russia to Russian-speaking regions. The author, one-sidedly poses the problem, not to mention the reasons for the reduction of the Russian population in modern Russia.
      1. +3
        4 March 2023 19: 38
        Quote: parusnik
        national regions of Russia bring regional guest workers to Russian-speaking regions.

        Directly here they take and deliver??? Won...
        Or maybe it's too dofiga in cities with millions of dough, including among the population?
        "Bring in"...
        Our salary of 25 is already very good, and in Moscow no one will lift a finger for this money, let alone work.
        First, suck all the money out of the provinces and then be indignant - "Panaego here !! They are being imported !!"
      2. 0
        5 March 2023 14: 57
        And what do you think about the reduction of the Mordovian, Tatar population and the population of other nationalities, mainly Finno-Ugric, whose indicators are even worse than those of Russians? In general, have you seen a lot of workers in Central Russia from the national republics of the Russian Federation? Although, probably, you simply cannot distinguish shift workers from among the Mordovians, Chuvashs, Komi from Russians. By the way, many people from Central Asia work in the national republics of the Russian Federation. The reason, perhaps, is that they can be paid less?
  5. +11
    4 March 2023 06: 21
    And what, in the USA there are national autonomies of the Americans, or in China - the Chinese? Russians in Russia - 80 percent of the population, it would even look ridiculous. Of course, there are some disturbing moments in some republics that need to be responded to, but we should not forget that we have a federal state, where subjects have their own rights to preserve their own identity. That is why we are a multicultural civilization, so that hundreds of peoples live and feel good in the bosom of our country, jointly contributing to the development of a common Motherland. And if we start sticking out our Russianness everywhere, everyone will start to take an example from this, nothing good will come of it. And in general, when representatives of all the peoples of the country, of all faiths, lay down their heads and perform heroic deeds for Russia in these alarming days, digging into national issues is at least stupid, but at most ...
    R. S. Proving his point of view, the author writes about the fact that no new Russian people's commanders appeared in the NWO. And what about bright commanders of other nationalities? And how can they appear if a regular army is fighting, where the principle of unity of command prevails and any partisanism is excluded?
    1. +14
      4 March 2023 08: 37
      Is there such a nation as the Americans? Or the Chinese? And here and there it is an analogue of "Russians".

      And, again, "if we start sticking out." For many decades they did not stick out, but everyone else nevertheless "sticks out". Why is it possible for everyone except Russians? By the way, the wise Stalin in 1945 very clearly emphasized the role of the Russian people in the life of the country and victory.
      1. -4
        4 March 2023 19: 47
        And even under the "wise" Stalin, the whole Ivanovo policy of indigenization, or the fight against Great Russian chauvinism, went on, under the "wise" Stalin, hundreds of thousands of Russian peasants rotted in the swamps of the Tomsk region, and then before the war, this wisest leader beheaded the Red Army, which subsequently backfired with death million soldiers, most of them Russian. But on the other hand, how happy we were when this executioner of the Russian people mumbled a toast "to the great Russian people", which saved him ..opu and immediately forgave him everything. But the Chechens, the Ingush - they did not forgive, and they are doing the right thing.
    2. +13
      4 March 2023 08: 59
      "Digging" into national issues is never stupid. Did you pay attention to the purely national military units that appeared in the NWO? Moreover, it is not known to whom they are subordinate, at least the Chechen ones. Then it will be too late to think about it. Again, no one creates Russian units.
      1. 0
        4 March 2023 17: 52
        Quote: U. Cheny
        "Digging" into national issues is never stupid. Did you pay attention to the purely national military units that appeared in the NWO? Moreover, it is not known to whom they are subordinate, at least the Chechen ones. Then it will be too late to think about it. Again, no one creates Russian units.

        Chechen units are structurally part of the National Guard. So they obey Zolotov. On the battlefield, to the commander of the direction.
        Do you have other information?
    3. +3
      4 March 2023 12: 17
      or in China - the Chinese?


      There can be no national autonomy for the Chinese because there is no such nation as the Chinese.
      1. +2
        4 March 2023 17: 54
        Quote: rait
        or in China - the Chinese?


        There can be no national autonomy for the Chinese because there is no such nation as the Chinese.

        That's for sure, there are Hans, Uighurs, and so on.
      2. +1
        4 March 2023 19: 55
        The Chinese are Han Chinese. There are 90 percent of them. Do you have information about the autonomy of the Han people in China?
        1. +2
          5 March 2023 17: 03
          No, Han is Han, one of the ethnic groups that is part of the population of the PRC. And they were not and are not a single people, combining them into one group is a generalization.

          Further, China is an extremely specific example and, as a result, it cannot be extended to the whole world. In China, the national question is solved quite differently. In China, any national autonomy, diaspora, etc. are strictly prohibited. Our 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation nervously smokes on the sidelines compared to China. The reason for this is the extreme national contradictions and the Chinese authorities understand that if one people is allowed to inflate nationalism, the whole of China will blaze. Therefore, one is building one single Chinese people speaking the same language.

          Therefore, your China-Russia analogy is initially incorrect. The Chechen Republic, Tatarstan and other national entities existing in Russia cannot exist in China. Therefore, it is quite logical that there is no Han autonomy or diaspora either. And to be more precise, no one there has autonomies or diasporas - "Not everyone!".

          Well, you can find out how they deal with those who disagree with this on the example of Xinjiang. As a person who has been there more than once, I personally saw examples of that How treat Uyghurs in other parts of the PRC.

          In Russia, there are also national republics, and especially diasporas, and this is a completely different context. And within the framework of this context, a completely logical question is asked: “Why can they and we can’t?”.
    4. +1
      5 March 2023 15: 01
      I wrote a few comments on this topic, I agree with you. Only about the Chinese, a small correction. The Chinese are for the outside world. The main people in China are the Han Chinese, as in the Russian Federation the Russians. There is no point in making republics or autonomies for Russians in Russia and for Hans in China. Although there are two Russian republics in the Russian Federation. This is the DNR and LNR. But this is a special case.
  6. +7
    4 March 2023 06: 33
    Now in the documents it is generally impossible to find out who is of what nationality. Are we becoming like Americans? Not certainly in that way. There are few such iconic people who did not pay attention to the fact that White Guard blood flows in them. But among them there are many people who changed their last name to a more harmonious one. But this is not at all Russian. The nobleman fought not only for the fatherland, but also for his last name. It would seem that there is a desire to take revenge for the defeat in the civil war. But gold shoulder straps without an internal core are zilch and nothing more. We were led to this from the late USSR. Songs appeared - "Gentlemen officers" Lieutenant Golitsyn. "I was still surprised that the creators of these songs were people of that nationality that the White Guards, to put it mildly, did not respect. "I am Russian" sounds proud. But you won’t find anything to prove it not in any guide.
    1. +4
      4 March 2023 08: 51
      It is generally impossible to find out who is of what nationality.

      As folk wisdom says, they beat not on the passport, but on the face ..
      1. +2
        4 March 2023 11: 17
        Quote: paul3390
        As folk wisdom says, they beat not on the passport, but on the face ..

        Will we measure skulls with a compass?
    2. +1
      5 March 2023 15: 03
      Graduates of theological seminaries in pre-revolutionary Russia often changed their surnames to more euphonious ones. And the nobles often gave their illegitimate children new surnames. Often they had some resemblance to the father's surname.
  7. +6
    4 March 2023 06: 36
    The Russian Empire or the Soviet Empire has always been multinational. Only the majority of small national ethnic groups have grown in number, while the Russians have decreased and continue to decrease (of their own free will).
    1. +7
      4 March 2023 13: 01
      But because in all the messes, the Russians are the first to die. An example of some tiktoker troops will help you, but how they treated them with Hymars rockets was not seen or heard, but how much PR there was at the beginning. hi
    2. +1
      5 March 2023 15: 06
      The number of Tatars, Mordovians and a number of other peoples of the Russian Federation has greatly decreased over the past decades. If taken as a percentage, then often the reduction is stronger than that of the Russians.
  8. +29
    4 March 2023 06: 38
    Quote: Rimlianin
    And if we start sticking out our Russianness everywhere, everyone will start to take an example from this, nothing good will come of it.

    And do not stick out your Russianness ... I do not beat myself in the chest at every corner that I am Russian.
    It is necessary that the laws in our state be the same for all nationalities ... and this is just a big problem ... very often I observe a situation when in the regions of Russia representatives of some diasporas behave like invaders on foreign territory, regardless of the local population .. .and this applies not only to the Russian population.
    The law should be the same for everyone and there should not be any exceptions for different nationalities in principle ... this is the only way to establish a balance in society.
    Therefore, I just can’t understand why judges, with the same offenses, give different terms to citizens of non-indigenous nationalities, so to speak.
    1. -19
      4 March 2023 06: 43
      Give an example where the laws in our country give advantages to any nationality? I have not seen this. Except as benefits for small peoples, but you will agree that it is justified.
      1. +13
        4 March 2023 06: 55
        Quote: Rimlianin
        Give an example where the laws in our country give advantages to any nationality? I have not seen this. Except as benefits for small peoples, but you will agree that it is justified.

        Laws do not give ... and people who have to follow the rule of law apply these laws sometimes based on their own considerations.
        There were stories of rape of girls in the criminal chronicle ... visiting rapists got off with a slight fright ... if you dig deeper, you can dig up more unpleasant stories.
        As for benefits for small peoples, I also disagree ... this is a tribute to tolerance to the traditions of these peoples ... that's all.
        1. +3
          4 March 2023 07: 17
          Raya Mammadova is a very revealing example both in her act and in her further position and ... even in punishment for her position
      2. Egg
        +11
        4 March 2023 09: 42
        Quote: Rimlianin
        Give an example where the laws in our country give advantages to any nationality? I have not seen this. Except as benefits for small peoples, but you will agree that it is justified.

        benefits are one thing, and another thing ... for example, local indigenous peoples in the north have the right to "ancestral lands" that no one has access to, even such monsters as Rosneft, Gazprom, Lukoil, etc. they pay a lot of money, they donate fuel, snowmobiles, food, etc. for free. to local communities and owners of these same "ancestral lands" for the passage of pipelines, roads and winter roads through them.
        Is it a perk or what do you call it? The Land Code of the Russian Federation does not provide for this, but if my children and grandchildren were born and raised here, are they indigenous? In theory, yes, and if so, where is their right to "ancestral lands"? We do not need them, of course, but the very fact and the law!
        1. +2
          4 March 2023 11: 19
          Quote: Telur
          In theory, yes, and if so, where is their right to "ancestral lands"?

          So they were allowed to collect deadwood.
        2. +2
          4 March 2023 19: 46
          Quote: Telur
          the right to "ancestral lands" to which no one has access, even such monsters as Rosneft, Gazprom, Lukoil, etc. pay big money

          Absolutely Russian, our regional farmers thump for joy - when Gazprom says that the pipeline will be repaired on their agricultural land. He pays heavily for lost profits and subsequent reclamation
    2. +19
      4 March 2023 09: 03
      representatives of some diasporas behave like invaders in foreign territory, regardless of the local population

      Our problems stem from our own strength. We are the imperial people, we are used to the fact that the empire will not allow our infringement. That's why she's an empire. We have never had the need to rally on a national basis, we are not used to this. Be sure to drag your own everywhere, protect your own at any cost even if they are wrong, be honest only with your own, push only your own into grain places, etc. We are strong in front of an external enemy, and not in front of an internal one ..

      When diasporas, united precisely on a national basis, get inside the country, we are lost, because we do not have the skills to counter such a threat. For this has always been the responsibility of the state. When it began to act openly to the detriment of the Russian people, we were at a loss ..

      We do not know how to stray into groups, clans and diasporas - only into regiments, divisions and armies .. And this is our main weakness .. We have only three exits.
      Or we'll just die as a people..
      Or we will adopt the customs of the newcomers and also become a clan-tribal society, having actually lost the Russian mentality.
      Or - we will return normal power. Which will act in the interests of its people, and not its own wallet ..
      1. +1
        4 March 2023 10: 26
        Regarding the second, it does not correspond to our perception and mentality, we are unlikely to be able to do this; the third option is very vague in the current state of affairs, although it is very, very desirable. The first remains - the most undesirable and denied by us, but the ongoing decrease in numbers even in peacetime (take the same statistics of deaths on the roads, and this is just one example of many) plus the added number of dead young healthy men due to the onset of SVO, and this, in turn, failed families, unborn children ... In general, all this is in On the whole, it does not add optimism. How to solve these problems is a question of questions.
        1. +5
          4 March 2023 10: 38
          How to solve these problems is a matter of questions.

          There are no such questions. Everything is chewed and sorted into pieces in the works of the classics. The same Ilyich. And practitioners - Comrade Stalin. All you have to do is read and do as you are told.
          1. -3
            4 March 2023 19: 56
            Quote: paul3390
            How to solve these problems is a matter of questions.

            There are no such questions. Everything is chewed and sorted into pieces in the works of the classics. The same Ilyich. And practitioners - Comrade Stalin. All you have to do is read and do as you are told.

            This requires the total impoverishment of the people (a loaf of bread for a week for a family) and the loss of the value of human life (to zero). This usually happened as a result of wars.
            Otherwise, the population will not rise in principle. All revolutions of the 20th century (except Mongolia) are all according to this scenario.
            Well, then 5-6-7 years of devastation, the shooting of the immediately snickering "guards of the revolution" and so on ...
      2. 0
        4 March 2023 13: 14
        I would put 10 pluses .......... .....
    3. 0
      4 March 2023 13: 03
      Why not? What is wrong with this, others do not even hesitate to do this. Maybe get on your knees?
  9. +15
    4 March 2023 06: 40
    Even Stalin recognized the great merit, first of all, of the Russian people in the victory over fascism. If we start de-Russification now, then why is it called Russia at all? It is necessary to come up with another name for the country, and there it is not far from the collapse and disappearance as an ethnic group.
    1. -5
      4 March 2023 20: 23
      And again, Stalin, ugh you .. Stalin, Lenin and all this Bolshevik gang are the executioners of the Russian people. It was they who chopped off the primordially Russian lands from the Russians, handing them over to the Ukraine and Kazakhstan created by them, it was they who destroyed the most savvy and enterprising part of the Russian people - the strong peasantry, in general, they essentially ruined the Russian village as such. And you and some of them sing odes.
      1. -1
        5 March 2023 09: 56
        Under these "executioners" the number of Russians steadily increased, and grew to more than 145 million people!
        And now there are only 105 million Russians left in Russia - without Lenin, without Stalin, and without tens of millions of Russians. It turns out that you are lying, and the executioners are not Lenin and Stalin at all!
        1. 0
          5 March 2023 19: 55
          Quote: Alt22
          Under these "executioners" the number of Russians steadily increased, and grew to more than 145 million people!
          And now there are only 105 million Russians left in Russia - without Lenin, without Stalin, and without tens of millions of Russians. It turns out that you are lying, and the executioners are not Lenin and Stalin at all!

          That is, you do not take into account the consequences of the Civil War and the Second World War - when did the mass of young people up to 30 years old die without leaving offspring? As well as urbanization lasting more than 50 years, when did they start giving birth to 1-2 children?
          All together - wars, dispossession, flight to the cities and was the reason for the decline in the population ...
  10. +17
    4 March 2023 06: 47
    It is no coincidence that we see few Russian heroes participating in a special military operation - if the Russian spring gave us such bright and charismatic personalities as Alexei Mozgovoy, Arsen Pavlov (Motorola), Igor Strelkov, Pavel Dremov and many others, then the special military operation did not put forward to the fore such leaders. The main slogan of the NWO is the Chechen slogan “Akhmat is strength” (which is always supplemented with the words “Allahu Akbar”).

    Perhaps not by chance. Apparently someone really wants to take revenge on the Russians for the time when they said:
    May I be a black man of advanced years
    And then, without despondency and laziness,
    I would learn Russian only because
    What did Lenin say to them?

    It is today in Russia that the presenter can selflessly repeat from program to program that he is a Jew, as if in Russia he is forced to pay taxes at 45% and give up real estate ...
    And in the USSR, the titular nation was officially Russian.
    Everything flows, everything changes ...
    How much more attractive the ideas of private property have become in the country since the privatization of public property can be judged not even by facts and phenomena, but simply by name.
    That made life easier. What state bank could allow someone during the hostilities to withdraw from the country capital in the amount of 19 trillion. rubles? Or allow traders to officially raise food prices just in passing...By the way, what about the sunflower crops, which gave rise to prices in the trading network? It was the Russians who came up with the idea of ​​raising prices precisely at the moment when millions of Russian citizens left the economy for war ... Apparently, to make it easier to fight enemies ...
    1. +1
      5 March 2023 15: 10
      There was no official titular nation in the USSR. And the term itself was semi-official. Russians were considered the titular people of the RSFSR.
  11. +12
    4 March 2023 06: 52
    Conclusion

    Perhaps now, against the backdrop of the events taking place in Ukraine, where Russia actually opposes the entire collective West, which actively supports Kiev, the topic of de-Russification will seem insignificant to someone, and its discussion untimely. However, these processes began to take place actively just after the beginning of the SVR, which cannot but cause concern. How is Russia going to carry out Russification of Ukraine if there is a slow de-Russification of Russia itself?

    Sadly that's all.
    1. +9
      4 March 2023 10: 07
      Quote: SergioPetrov
      Sadly that's all.

      Yes. And all this happens according to plan. In 2014, anti-Russian elements in power were afraid of the rise of the Russian spirit. And they quickly merged the Russian spring. Shooting leaders.
      1. +5
        4 March 2023 11: 22
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Yes. And all this happens according to plan. In 2014, anti-Russian elements in power were afraid of the rise of the Russian spirit. And they quickly merged the Russian spring. Shooting leaders.

        And when in recent history were Russian elements in power in Russia?
      2. +8
        4 March 2023 13: 29
        Unfortunately, now all "anti-Russian elements" are in power, regardless of nationality. Because the Russian tradition is based on collectivism and a thirst for justice. And this is a direct attack on the modern social system.
  12. +6
    4 March 2023 07: 00
    In the USSR there was a Communist Party of the Georgian Republic of the Armenian, etc., but there was no Communist Party of the RSFSR
    1. +2
      4 March 2023 13: 53
      Quote: Citelle 2013
      In the USSR there was a Communist Party of the Georgian Republic of the Armenian, etc., but there was no Communist Party of the RSFSR

      But now there is, and what's the point? One name remains.
    2. +1
      5 March 2023 15: 14
      The overwhelming majority of communists were on the territory of the RSFSR, they were afraid of duplication. By the way, in the autonomous republics, both in the RSFSR and in other union republics, there were also no "own" communist parties. There was the Tatar regional committee of the CPSU, the Abkhaz regional committee of the Communist Party of Georgia, etc.
  13. +28
    4 March 2023 07: 01
    I do not think that after the start of the NWO, the pace of de-Russification in the Russian Federation increased. This has been going on without interruption for the last 30 years. It's just that now cases of oppression of Russians have become more painfully perceived by the people. After all, 10 and 20 years ago and now non-Russians will cripple or kill a Russian - this is everyday life. If, on the other hand, the media will give birth to a cry about Great Russian chauvinism, Nazism and inciting ethnic hatred. Even the latest case in Chelyabinsk. What was the first reaction from the media? The guys were immediately called skinheads. And only then, adjusting to public outrage, they changed the labels. So the fight against the Russians was and continues. Including the hands of the Russians themselves.
    1. 0
      4 March 2023 20: 08
      Quote: Mixweb
      After all, 10 and 20 years ago and now, non-Russians will cripple or kill a Russian - this is everyday life. If it is the other way around, the media will give birth to a cry about Great Russian chauvinism, Nazism and inciting ethnic hatred.

      1984, USSR, Kazakhstan.
      They removed Kunaev - they planted a Russian. Mass rallies in Alma-Ata.
      1. +1
        5 March 2023 02: 50
        In 1986 only, not 1984. The first real riots in the USSR. I have a friend who served in the BB, received a brick there.
  14. +1
    4 March 2023 07: 20
    1) during the NWO, it is necessary to publicly advertise Russian-speaking internationalism, because the skin of a bear must be divided after the victory.
    ... the titular nations are disappearing in both Syria and Iran ...
    Most likely, the laziness of the chiefs in industry and in the army is to blame for this: it is easier for them to manipulate those to whom they are accustomed ... and the rest at the headquarters as postmen survive and multiply.
  15. +9
    4 March 2023 07: 26
    Derussification of the republics of the Russian Federation?
    It's like watching the movie Whiskers.
    "Do you like Pushkin?
    - Yes
    - Here is a man who loves Pushkin. He walks the Russian land. He speaks and thinks in Russian. Soviet man! ", To a landfill? Or buy it off?
  16. +18
    4 March 2023 07: 29
    What do the Bolsheviks have to do with it, if Abramovich, who takes out the killers of our soldiers, participates in all negotiations with Ukraine from Russia, presumably? If the assistant to the chairman of the Security Council, Major General A. Pavlov, is dismissed by presidential decree after an article in a newspaper. Which no one has refuted, by the way.
    1. +4
      4 March 2023 11: 37
      Quote: Boris Sergeev
      What do the Bolsheviks have to do with it, if Abramovich, who takes out the killers of our soldiers, participates in all negotiations with Ukraine from Russia, presumably?

      Did he do this without the knowledge of the supreme commander?
  17. +15
    4 March 2023 07: 37
    The author greatly simplifies the historical outline. After the collapse of the Russian Empire, separatist movements operated in all the outskirts, and only the Bolsheviks managed to cope with them, preserving a single state. Yes, at the cost of the quasi-state status of the respective nationalities. In addition, the idea of ​​a "world revolution", as a result of which the same Germany could join the USSR as a republic, was then pushing for "republic creativity". Under Stalin, all these fantasies were curtailed in favor of "socialism in one country." At the same time, small-town nationalism was burned out with a red-hot iron.
    1. +5
      4 March 2023 09: 16
      The author greatly simplifies the historical outline
      The author does not want to recall the "suomization" of the Karelian-Russian population in Finland, for example, when bourgeois nationalists came to power there during the civil war. He does not want to talk about the fact that in Ukraine there were nationalist socialist parties and even communist ones, and that many joined the RCP (b), or rather the CP (b) U, that under their influence Ukrainization was carried out, they did not hold high positions in the party, but held posts in the field of education and culture. What is small-town nationalism, after the civil war was strong in the regions of Russia, for example, in the Kuban.
    2. -3
      4 March 2023 20: 27
      The Bolsheviks endowed the outskirts with statehood and Russian lands in exchange for loyalty to themselves. They were deeply indifferent to both Russia and the Russian people, whom they hated and passionately exterminated.
    3. +1
      5 March 2023 15: 23
      They simply spawned national republics and autonomies in the heat of the moment, even where there really were no special national movements. And in many cases, when the creation of autonomies and republics was justified, they went too far with the size of the territories, including territories with a predominantly Russian population. Although this option cannot be completely ruled out. It is necessary either to make autonomies so that the titular ethnic group makes up the absolute majority of the population, and there are no territories with a predominance of the Russian population. In this case, these autonomies will be small in territory, not self-sufficient and manageable. Another option is that the titular ethnic group should be no more than 10-20 percent. That is quasi-autonomy. In this case, if nationalist sentiments are strong among the "titular" ones, they will not have devastating consequences. After all, the Russian majority still has real power. But the options intermediate between these two technologies are dangerous. Please note that in China there are a lot of autonomies of different levels, occupying almost half of the country's territory. But at the same time, the overwhelming majority of them are numerically dominated by the Han.
  18. +20
    4 March 2023 07: 37
    if it continues to artificially elevate and give exclusivity to the power structures of the Chechen nationality and their commanders in your own, then do not be surprised if their greeting (instead of the prescribed by the charter Hello Comrades and We wish you a Healthy answer) to Allah Akbar, in such a formation you will be taught in response always shouting Akbar putting his hand to his head like Soviet pioneers. Only it’s not childish and not funny looking, how the obvious de-Russification was already transferred to law enforcement agencies, and the media is talking to us every day Akhmat-sila, Akhmat-sila, Akhmat-sila. And that Ivan is no longer strong? ...
    Do not forget that this is already coming, from the screaming Akhmat-power, preparation for the fact that after Russia's victory in their own, they will be bent into the chairs of the Moscow Region and will reorganize the Russian army
    on a national basis. There will be Chechen, there will be Dagestan, there will be Tatar, there will be Buryat regiments, and from this there will be the death of Russia without any shot from outside ...
    Now as for the song "I'm Russian". I’ll say right away that I exclusively like the song, but there are very few such songs, and since the Russians from the beginning of the twentieth century, in fact, for a hundred years, were ordered to shut up about the fact that they are Russians, the Russians accept this song with enthusiasm, but looking back, - but did they not exalt themselves by reminding themselves and identifying for themselves that there are still Russians and who they are. Only I don't like the fact that the performer of Dronov's songs performs on the stage only under the nickname of under the pseudonym Shaman. There is, after all, his Russian surname, with a Russian name and patronymic.
    1. 0
      4 March 2023 13: 57
      Quote: North 2
      if it continues to artificially elevate and give exclusivity to the power structures of the Chechen nationality and their commanders in your own, then do not be surprised if their greeting (instead of the prescribed by the charter Hello Comrades and We wish you a Healthy answer) to Allah Akbar, in such a formation you will be taught in response always shouting Akbar putting his hand to his head like Soviet pioneers. Only it’s not childish and not funny looking, how the obvious de-Russification was already transferred to law enforcement agencies, and the media is talking to us every day Akhmat-sila, Akhmat-sila, Akhmat-sila. And that Ivan is no longer strong? ...
      Do not forget that this is already coming, from the screaming Akhmat-power, preparation for the fact that after Russia's victory in their own, they will be bent into the chairs of the Moscow Region and will reorganize the Russian army
      on a national basis. There will be Chechen, there will be Dagestan, there will be Tatar, there will be Buryat regiments, and from this there will be the death of Russia without any shot from outside ...
      Now as for the song "I'm Russian". I’ll say right away that I exclusively like the song, but there are very few such songs, and since the Russians from the beginning of the twentieth century, in fact, for a hundred years, were ordered to shut up about the fact that they are Russians, the Russians accept this song with enthusiasm, but looking back, - but did they not exalt themselves by reminding themselves and identifying for themselves that there are still Russians and who they are. Only I don't like the fact that the performer of Dronov's songs performs on the stage only under the nickname of under the pseudonym Shaman. There is, after all, his Russian surname, with a Russian name and patronymic.

      Why hush up the second part of the greeting - Akhmat is power - Russia is power!
      Specially? This is how discord is introduced.
      1. +5
        4 March 2023 16: 03
        And does this second part really take place, especially not on camera?
        1. 0
          4 March 2023 18: 05
          Quote from AdAstra
          And does this second part really take place, especially not on camera?

          And you go and ask. Do you want to say whose Russian men who say this along with the Chechens are cowards?
          Dear man, but you are not a cisco, are you sowing discord here?
          1. +1
            4 March 2023 22: 47
            I personally have not heard this from Russian peasants. Of course, a cissist, dear man, I have a document.
    2. -4
      4 March 2023 19: 52
      Write to the Moscow Region to exclude Chechen, Kabardian, Ossetian, Ingush, Lezgin, etc. units from the NVO, you are right for the Russians, the Russians should fight, you will then find out in the trenches who your emperor is and the right or left trench is your empire
  19. +14
    4 March 2023 07: 47
    A topic very unloved by the authorities and very uncomfortable. But, in general, I think they are simply afraid, afraid that suddenly Russian self-consciousness will really manifest itself among the people. And what then it will result in, this is a great mystery.
  20. +15
    4 March 2023 07: 50
    Among historians studying the “Russian question”, one can often find the opinion that the origins of de-Russification should be sought in the national policy of the USSR. In part, this opinion is true, because the national policy of Moscow in the Soviet era really made a fairly significant contribution to the de-Russification, in particular, of Western Russian lands.
    It is necessary to kick the USSR. Probably the installation is like this, or already out of habit, all the current misses are jambs and a complete disregard for interests Russian people, Russia , write off the Soviet era and the then leadership. Say, it is to blame, if not for it, then ..... it turned out as it is now. It cannot be otherwise. The bearer of Russian culture and understanding of what Russian, Russia is, is the language. This is now, the language of the masters is English, and the slaves must understand it and that's it. That's all in a crowd, they are trying to learn it, in all kinds of courses. And what happened in the USSR? .....According to the 1979 census, 81,9% of the total population of the USSR (215 million people) spoke Russian fluently or considered Russian as their mother tongue. In 1970, these were 76% of the population. At the same time, the widespread use of the Russian language was combined with the steady preservation of the native language of their nationality: in 1926, 94,2% of the population retained their native language, in 1970, 93,9%, and in 1979, 93,1%. This means that a specific bilingual Russian national culture has developed in the USSR .... Here's what held together the Soviet people. They ruined everything, and they are looking for the guilty, as always.
    1. +7
      4 March 2023 09: 21
      It is necessary to kick the USSR.
      De-Sovietization is going on quietly in the country. If it is accelerated, we will become like modern Ukraine and not only like it. The Great Patriotic War does not allow it to be carried out completely. But they are also digging under it.
      1. +1
        4 March 2023 14: 00
        Quote: parusnik
        It is necessary to kick the USSR.
        De-Sovietization is going on quietly in the country. If it is accelerated, we will become like modern Ukraine and not only like it. The Great Patriotic War does not allow it to be carried out completely. But they are also digging under it.

        Not so quiet. Rather, very loud.
  21. -6
    4 March 2023 07: 50
    What a primitive article! Let's start with the fact that the terms "Russification" and "De-Russification" are not defined, so you can call them names with these words, as you like. Secondly, the author is frankly lying, to whom and when in Russia is it risky to call oneself Russian? If it's about the Shaman, so the court found him, the Shaman, guilty? And any psycho can write such a "cart".
    Yes, the Russians do not have their own territorial formation, this, in my opinion, is a historical distortion, but the system has already taken shape! To change it is to destroy the country completely. Is this what the author is trying to achieve? Squid quoted from Dostoevsky: "a people without national self-consciousness is manure on which other peoples grow." This is exactly it! And, by the way, the leadership of the country is acting in this direction, shaping and developing the Russian world. And the Russification of Ukraine is the restoration of Russian national identity on its territory.
    It seems that an equal sign is being put between national self-consciousness and national territory. Alas, these are not always equivalent values, and it is not always possible to combine them. Look at the Kurds: they don't have territories, but they have a national identity, and they haven't disappeared, they haven't dissolved into other peoples.
    And the last. The Russian people de facto have their own territories, it’s another matter that they are not formalized by law, but this is hardly possible. Yes, and it needs to be corrected due to the very historical bias and the consequences of its “correction”. Legislatively, the Russian people are identified in the Constitution of Russia, so there is a basis for national self-consciousness. Whether we keep it or not depends only on each of us, and not on the presence or absence of national territories.
    1. +1
      4 March 2023 09: 26
      Yes, Russians do not have their own territorial entity
      And what are its limits? For example, until the 16th century, the peoples of Siberia did not even hear about the Russians. And we call it the Russian land. And whoever lives there, including the Far East.
    2. +3
      4 March 2023 14: 02
      Quote: Just_Kvasha
      What a primitive article! Let's start with the fact that the terms "Russification" and "De-Russification" are not defined, so you can call them names with these words, as you like. Secondly, the author is frankly lying, to whom and when in Russia is it risky to call oneself Russian? If it's about the Shaman, so the court found him, the Shaman, guilty? And any psycho can write such a "cart".
      Yes, the Russians do not have their own territorial formation, this, in my opinion, is a historical distortion, but the system has already taken shape! To change it is to destroy the country completely. Is this what the author is trying to achieve? Squid quoted from Dostoevsky: "a people without national self-consciousness is manure on which other peoples grow." This is exactly it! And, by the way, the leadership of the country is acting in this direction, shaping and developing the Russian world. And the Russification of Ukraine is the restoration of Russian national identity on its territory.
      It seems that an equal sign is being put between national self-consciousness and national territory. Alas, these are not always equivalent values, and it is not always possible to combine them. Look at the Kurds: they don't have territories, but they have a national identity, and they haven't disappeared, they haven't dissolved into other peoples.
      And the last. The Russian people de facto have their own territories, it’s another matter that they are not formalized by law, but this is hardly possible. Yes, and it needs to be corrected due to the very historical bias and the consequences of its “correction”. Legislatively, the Russian people are identified in the Constitution of Russia, so there is a basis for national self-consciousness. Whether we keep it or not depends only on each of us, and not on the presence or absence of national territories.

      It is strange that you were given minuses. Just amazing.
    3. +2
      4 March 2023 14: 46
      Quote: Just_Kvasha
      Legislatively, the Russian people are identified in the Constitution of Russia, so there is a basis for national self-consciousness.

      By what criteria is it identified? White skin, bulbous nose?
    4. +1
      5 March 2023 15: 31
      This is not a historical twist. It makes no sense to create a single territorial entity for Russians in the Russian Federation, as well as, for example, a single territorial unit for the Hans in the PRC or for the Hindustanis in India. However, we have territories, regions, cities of federal significance, which in fact are Russian territorial entities, the official language in them can be exclusively Russian. Yes, and all autonomous regions, the only autonomous region and part of the republics of the Russian Federation are also de facto predominantly Russian entities. Similarly, provinces in the PRC, unlike autonomous regions, are Han. And in India there are several states with a predominantly Hindustani population.
  22. -6
    4 March 2023 07: 55
    Again a provocative article, I am not Russian but I speak Russian, my children and grandchildren studied and study in Russian, and they speak Russian. I want to ask a question, show me at least one Russian who studies in an Avar school or speaks Avar. In a 140-million country, there are a million Avars, which means that the central channels should broadcast all programs for 2,5 days in Avar a year. I am already 65 years old, but not a single film in the Avar language has been filmed. Two brothers of my grandfather did not return from the Second World War, and the grandfather himself returned disabled, there were only three of them. Where there is at least one film about Dagestanis, it means that we have the right to die for our country, but we do not have the right to make films and hear native speech from central TV. In this regard, the question is, who in our country has more rights? The country thinks, speaks and lives according to the laws adopted in Moscow, what's wrong?
    1. +18
      4 March 2023 08: 30
      Something you, my friend, slightly bent. If you need a film in Avar, make it yourself. who forbids you? If this is not possible, dub any film, what's the problem? At one time, in the 70s, I happened to live in Izhevsk. So, there was a local TV and radio company where films were dubbed into the Udmurt language, folklore groups performed, and social and political programs were created. Who does not allow you to organize the same way? If you want the Avar speech to sound necessarily on the Central Television, then this is nonsense in vegetable oil. Imagine a CT with more than two hundred editions in national languages. Do you think there will be enough money to maintain such a "structure"? And anyway, can it work? So no one oppresses you, everything is in your hands.
      1. +1
        4 March 2023 09: 05
        So, in your opinion, it turns out that the republic should make the film itself, from which we can conclude that since the war is not going on in Dagestan, then let those who have it go on fighting. So we will go far, and now we need to unite. Everyone knows that there are a lot of Russians at the front and they are fighting well, but there are more than all Russians in the country in terms of numbers. Guys, I am an Avar in Dagestan, a Dagestan in Russia, and a Russian abroad, it comes to you or is it too tricky.
        1. +7
          4 March 2023 10: 59
          Avar Ivan Fokin), well, after all, Abdulkadyrov shot "Imam Shamil. Siege of Akhulgo".
          And normally it was played in Dagestan. But something was not brought to Russia.
          I wonder why? It would also be useful for Russians to look.
          I myself saw how a huge portrait of Shamil was painted in Gunib. And nothing. National hero, freedom fighter.

          Russian and Russian in Russia and Russian in Dagestan and Russian abroad.
        2. +1
          4 March 2023 14: 55
          Quote: Ivan Fokin_2
          Where there is at least one film about Dagestanis, it means that we have the right to die for our country, but we do not have the right to make films and hear native speech from central TV.

          Film yourself. Here is a Russian 9-minute film, where a Kazakh gives a cue. No one translates it, everything is clear there even without translation.
          https://www.yandex.ru/video/preview/12285200798083498590
    2. +16
      4 March 2023 09: 17
      Have you ever thought that in addition to the Avars, there are dozens if not hundreds of nationalities in Russia? And what - all their languages ​​​​should sound on central TV ??? TV is not enough.. If you want to live in an empire and enjoy its benefits - alas, you will have to accept imperial culture, imperial language, imperial laws. Because otherwise - DOES NOT HAPPEN .. If you don't like it - create your own empire. You can’t - then why these small-town show-offs? Take it for granted - the Russian language is the language of interethnic communication in a huge state, without a common imperial one - the state cannot exist. Or do you offer to translate all the documentation into each local language??

      With all due respect to your native language - that's why I understand the knowledge of Russian to all citizens, but why do they need knowledge of Avar? Does it have great literature, technical documentation, scientific knowledge? No? Then what are we talking about? No one is going to infringe on your right to your native language - but why are you going to impose on everyone else? You pretend to be the all-imperial - so who's stopping you ?? Create values ​​on it similar to those in Russian - and maybe in 100 years we will all speak yours .. In the meantime - sorry ..
      1. -3
        4 March 2023 10: 14
        Quote: paul3390
        If you want to live in an empire and enjoy its benefits - alas, you will have to accept imperial culture, imperial language, imperial laws

        Well, dear, so we will go far. Let's start with the fact that the West can offer benefits by an order of magnitude more. This is exactly what happened in Chechnya in the 90s.
        1. +8
          4 March 2023 10: 29
          The West can offer much more benefits

          Material - yes. And the rest? Or do you think that the bourgeoisie has anything to do with the culture and development of small peoples? Their destiny is ethnic dances in national reservations for the needs of tourists. If there are those who want to exchange the essence of their people for Western-type liberal values, go ahead. Let's see what they will sing when, say, in the Caucasus, in exchange for loans, they will demand to introduce, say, 20% of gays on a mandatory basis ..

          In addition, it is most likely not the West that will intercept all the southern republics. And for example - the same Turkey. Who has a short conversation with ethnic minorities. They are not us - they will all be exclusively Turks ..

          So - only Russia can be the only guarantor of the preservation of small peoples. And if so - it is necessary to accept the accompanying conditions. In particular - the general imperial. If you don't like it, do whatever you can.
    3. +4
      4 March 2023 09: 22
      Where is at least one film about the Dagestanis?

      Good afternoon, Ivan
      Have you seen the film "The Ballad of an Old Gun" If not, I recommend it.

      YOM: 1986
      Genre: Drama, WWII
      Released: USSR, Film Studio im. M. Gorky
      Director: Gennady Voronin
      Cast: Patimat Khizroeva, Sergey Skripkin, Alexander Demyanenko, Viktor Bortsov, Leonid Belozorovich, Konstantin Mezentsev, Magomed Surkhatilov, Irena Kokryatskaya, Boris Chunaev, Valery Alekseev, Dadat Saydnurov, Mikhail Shishkov, Valentina Klyagina, Boris Klyuev
      About the film: In a remote mountain village, fathers and mothers are escorting their sons to the front. According to tradition, the highlander should not part with the weapons of his ancestors. Elderly Patimat asks Lieutenant Zvorykin to hand over ancient ancestral daggers to her sons Sultan and Magomed. He does not agree, fearing to violate the charter. But the custom cannot be violated, so a single mother, taking up arms, goes in search of her sons herself.
    4. +8
      4 March 2023 09: 29
      I am not Russian, but I speak Russian, I studied Russian, my children and grandchildren studied and study in Russian, and they speak Russian.
      Here you speak Russian, think in Russian, but the fact that you are not Russian, according to the author, is your misfortune. laughing hi The song "Cranes" was still not enough to pull apart, Victory, had already been pulled apart. About the song, the music was written by a Jew, the Avar wrote poetry, translated Russian, the first performer was a Jew, and even a native of Ukraine. Then all together they were Soviet people, regardless of nationality.
      1. 0
        4 March 2023 11: 47
        Quote: parusnik
        About the song, the music was written by a Jew, the poems were written by an Avar, translated by Russian, the first performer was a Jew, and even a native of Ukraine

        And the Russians were fighting at that time, while someone was chirping on the violin.
        1. 0
          5 March 2023 15: 36
          This song was written after the war. Therefore, your accusation is unfounded. Did the legendary Caesar Kunikov play the violin during the war years?
    5. +2
      4 March 2023 09: 54
      Dear, you forget that modern Russia is not the USSR, the Soviet legacy is used at the top just to hide imperial manners. Here, many rave about the empire, and this is very significant. For many, it would not hurt to remember that it is only thanks to the Soviet legacy, including the military one, that Russia still exists. And at the expense of imperial nationalist manners, apparently still ahead
    6. +5
      4 March 2023 10: 14
      It’s probably that if “pissing in the entrances” or “drunk yelling under the windows” and calling themselves Russians, this is normal (although looking at the appearance, the fact that Russians who call themselves Russians is often a moot point) and if a well-known journalist, an actor or an academician, etc., are so urgently ways to call yourself a Jew or a German, or anyone else, just not to associate yourself with these "screaming obscenities under the windows" although looking at the physiognomy of the Russians, as a result, the expression I am Russian is becoming more and more like the expression I b, 1d, l o I am silent about a new generation that copies the style of the Nigeric criminal slims of the United States that are quite suitable for definition B, 1DD, l about
    7. +7
      4 March 2023 14: 01
      At one time, Marshal Baghramyan, being present at a meeting of the Supreme Council, in my opinion, of Latvia, where everyone spoke in their own language, asked to speak. And he spoke Armenian for half an hour. Then he asked, do you understand me? And if not, then let's speak in the language that we all understand - in Russian.
      This is about 2,5 days of the Avar language on TV. After all, no one has forbidden and is not prohibiting broadcasts in national languages, please, but not the central channel, which is watched by another 139 million who do not understand Avar.
      By the way, ordinary Latvians in the Soviet era were much smarter and more cultured than their "elite". I was once on a tour with a large group of Latvians. State farm workers. I talked with young girls from this group, and one day I went into a room where almost all of these Latvians had gathered. They were talking among themselves, and the eldest suddenly said in Russian: "Don't you see that we have a guest? Speak in such a way that he would also understand."
      1. 0
        5 March 2023 03: 07
        At one time, Marshal Baghramyan, being present at a meeting of the Supreme Council, in my opinion, of Latvia, where everyone spoke in their own language, asked to speak. And he spoke Armenian for half an hour.

        Marshal, of course, is a respected person, no one argues. Only now Armenia is one of the few truly mono-ethnic republics on the territory of the former USSR. Armenians - 98 percent, Russians - 0,4, mostly old people or mixed families. Yes, and in Soviet times in 1989, the share of Russians was 1,6 percent, while in 1939 it was 4 percent of Russians ..
        Maybe he should have started with the Supreme Council of Armenia?
  23. -2
    4 March 2023 08: 21
    pseudoanalytics in all its glory! Even the quote is attached. The author is somewhat similar to another who called for "to equip Russia." And the fact that he wrote a denunciation of the singer should be checked for financial status (all of a sudden, import revenues are found or he is going to emigrate and creates an appropriate image)) and be registered as a person prone to extremism
    1. -2
      4 March 2023 08: 38
      Agree. But it is also necessary to understand that the pseudo-analytics of this article is only a tool for realizing the purpose of the article: to start a quarrel.
    2. +2
      4 March 2023 09: 19
      Quote: Guran33 Sergey
      And the fact that he composed a denunciation of the singer should be checked for financial status (suddenly, import income is found or he is going to emigrate and creates an appropriate image))

      Some time ago it was reported that a girl went to court with a demand to stop the teaching of Darwin's theory in school (something like that). And what? Now, about the writings of every insane person or who wants to hype, will we do analytical analyzes? Although .... And in this case, and there are problems (abscesses) of society.
      1. 0
        4 March 2023 17: 16
        In general, according to Darwin's theory, all living beings descended from one ancestor and developed over time and were constantly changing. Darwin himself could not provide the world with a single proof of his theory, moreover, the author of the theory of evolution himself realized that there were many facts serving as a refutation of his theory. And he himself admitted this in his book "Difficulties Encountered in Theory". Natural selection only contributes to the continuation of a healthy race, displacing the weak and less adapted, this system works, but is not capable of turning one species into another, for example, Deer into Horses. Natural selection does not have evolutionary power, which is confirmed by genetics. Also, the biggest impasse for the theory of evolution is the incredible complex structure of the cell, which is simply impossible to explain by chance. All living beings consist of cells whose dimensions are hundredths of millimeters, some organisms consist of only one cell, but even they have a very complex structure. They have various functions necessary for life and even mini engines that set them in motion. Microscopes developed in the 20th century showed the complex and ordered structure of the cell. Consisting of thousands of interacting and highly organized elements, completely excluding their accidental occurrence. Such a mechanism as a flagellum in a cell did not arise through evolution, but under conditions of complete interconnection with the rest of its elements, that is, if the flagellum is removed and the rest of the system will not be viable, it is not replaceable. You can’t describe everything here, but I can advise you to watch the documentary film "The Collapse of the Theory of Evolution" in which they consistently and point by point refute Darwin's theory.
        1. +1
          5 March 2023 03: 29
          Complete nonsense.
          Darwin himself could not provide the world with a single proof of his theory ...

          Darwin lived two hundred years ago. The theory of evolution has long since become generally accepted in the world, has received tremendous development and refinement, now we are not talking about Darwin's theory of evolution, but about the modern synthetic theory of evolution, which has moved away from Darwin's theory, like a modern supersonic fighter from the plane of the Wright brothers, and some before still argue with the work of Darwin two hundred years ago. A huge amount of convincing evidence of the theory of evolution has long been collected, especially in the second half of the 20th century with the development of genetics and advances in paleontology.
          You here, for example, https://antropogenez.ru, you will find a lot of evidence there.
          Microscopes developed in the 20th century showed the complex and ordered structure of the cell.

          The microscope was invented in the 17th century, at the same time the cellular structure was discovered. Hooke and Leeuwenhoek to help you. The structure of the cell itself was finally discovered at the beginning of the 19th century, even before the work of Darwin.
          You can’t describe everything here, but I can advise you to watch the documentary film "The Collapse of the Theory of Evolution"

          I advise you to type the name Drobyshevsky in Google, this will be really interesting and informative.
      2. 0
        5 March 2023 13: 40
        Darwin is education, and this article is about politics and not our politics at all, stuffing for the opposition
  24. +8
    4 March 2023 08: 35
    I want to ask a question, show me at least one Russian who studies in an Avar school or speaks Avar.

    The Russian language is taught so that it is convenient to work together and fight. There are not enough good teachers of another language in the Russian Federation.
    Language is not a matter of pride or dominance - it's just a communication tool ... like a woodcutter's axe.
  25. 0
    4 March 2023 08: 40
    Quote: V. Biryukov
    “I am Russian” allegedly “incites ethnic hatred”

    A person does not understand elementary things and does not understand Russian at all. Word Russian - adjective i.e. applied to any nationality and therefore a priori cannot incite ethnic hatred.



    Unlike nations that in life are guided only by the well-being of their nation, their clan, anyone who considers himself Russian, first of all, cares about the well-being of Russian civilization, all residents, regardless of nationality, living in this territory.

    "Think about the Motherland before, and then about yourself". Whoever agrees with this expression - he is Russian.

    “I am Russian” is seen as a challenge to public peace.

    This is a challenge to Western ideology to build mono-ethnic states throughout the world. Russia is a civilization-state on whose territory about 200 nationalities live. The ultimate goal of the West is to split us up into nation-states... Nothing new - divide and conquer.

    The person who applied to the court with such a proposal, and everyone who thinks the same way as him, are the enemies of Russia, defending the interests of the West.
    1. +2
      5 March 2023 10: 08
      Russian is a noun, a homonym, that is, it can also be used as an adjective. The statement about "Russians is an adjective and not a people, anyone can be Russian" is a Russophobic myth, which, alas, some Russians fell for.
      Stalin NEVER AND ANYWHERE called himself a "Russian Georgian", this is a fake, all statements of this kind appeared after his death and do not have a single documentary evidence, but are taken only from fiction.
      In reality, Stalin nowhere and never abandoned the Georgian people, and nowhere and never said that he was a "Russian Georgian".
      For the first time, renunciations of one's ethnicity and self-recording in Russians appear in two, independent from each other, collections of oral traditions about the father of peoples, published almost simultaneously, in 1989: Yury Borev's "Staliniade" and Yulian Semyonov's "Unwritten novels".

      It is characteristic that the legends about Stalin, writing down in Russian, arose decades after his death and existed among people very far from the leader
    2. +2
      5 March 2023 15: 40
      Russian is a substantiated noun, not an adjective.
      The self-name of the Germans, "Deutsch", literally also translates as "German".
  26. -4
    4 March 2023 08: 44
    Author, why do you need "empire"? It would be better to write an article about when we return to space. The future is there. When Russia launches a manned program to Mars, when it builds a station on the Moon. And this mouse fuss does not give anything.
    1. 0
      4 March 2023 09: 23
      Quote: tonicio
      Author, why do you need "empire"? It would be better to write an article about when we return to space. The future is there. When Russia launches a manned program to Mars, when it builds a station on the Moon. And this mouse fuss does not give anything.

      1. The earth is flat. laughing (joke)
      2. Every 180 years, resetting Civilization. We pass on horses and carts against the backdrop of palaces and cities. laughing (joke)
      3. Russia, possibly ROME=WORLD, an incubator for the creation of other peoples and states. Only official history has left traces of the conditionally "birth" of 1917 and 1991 for us.
      Also a joke. ))
      Who needs Helium-3 on the Moon if you can tinker around for 60 years in orbit and launch 500 satellite TVs and high-speed internet? The capitalists are not fools, otherwise they would have expanded into space long ago, thereby breaking the circle of viciousness of capitalism: the market is finite and markets.
      Neither will your grandchildren see you live: Ripley on the ship Nostromo, where a giant space-based steel plant transports ore and processes it while the crew is in hyper-sleep capsules.
      To do this, you need to go beyond the textbook of political science and history, and rely solely on the traces of material culture and architecture, in order to compare with what the official historical science tells us about the society of that time and its potential. Men in bast shoes and on horses, laid the Transib through the Taiga and the permafrost zone faster than BAM in the USSR and Shoigu's railway troops now. Live with it, or rather through the looking glass.
      1. +2
        4 March 2023 10: 02
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        faster than BAM in the USSR

        If everything were so simple. There, one Severomuysky tunnel was drilled for 26 years. Men in bast shoes, yes, they would have drilled faster
        1. +3
          4 March 2023 14: 17
          Quote: Pilat2009
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          faster than BAM in the USSR

          If everything were so simple. There, one Severomuysky tunnel was drilled for 26 years. Men in bast shoes, yes, they would have drilled faster

          A person is not aware that before the construction of the Trans-Siberian Railway, various options for the route along which the road should pass were considered.
          Including and approximately the one along which the BAM was laid.
          The option would be rejected because of the high cost and complexity.
          That Trans-Siberian Railway is long gone, it has been rebuilt many times. And the superstructure of the track and double track and electrification and so on.
  27. +6
    4 March 2023 08: 46
    until 1917, Russia was divided into provinces and everything was fine, and then it began - the prison of the peoples, the Black Hundred Great Russians and Russians ceased to be masters in their country
  28. 0
    4 March 2023 08: 49
    Oh, these fairy tales, oh, these storytellers - Oh, this scribbler, oh, this opus ... feel
  29. -3
    4 March 2023 08: 54
    Russian heroes of the participants of the special military operation
    @
    Shooters
    belay
    Yes, yes, and Judas (the same one) is a saint and great martyr (and also a symbol of fidelity).
  30. -4
    4 March 2023 08: 55
    Quote: Andrew Stavropol
    For you, the Bolsheviks are saints? For me so
    Jewish nationality.
  31. 0
    4 March 2023 09: 10
    Anyone who says that Russia is for Russians is a fool or a provocateur (c) Russian President Putin
    USSRF against Russians
  32. +6
    4 March 2023 09: 14
    Thus, a separatist who advocated Islamization and opposed Russian statehood,
    A memorial plaque to Manerheim was not hung in Chechnya. Alas!
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      1. +8
        4 March 2023 14: 20
        Quote: Pilat2009
        Quote: Oleg133
        Thus, a separatist who advocated Islamization and opposed Russian statehood,

        The author apparently thinks that everyone should kiss Russia on the gums. Here the highlanders lived in the Caucasus, they didn’t grieve, and then such Russia comes, from today you will pay me taxes. And it’s generally funny about Islamization. convert to Orthodoxy?

        And the highlanders did not arrange raids? Peaceful farmers? Again, the Russians are to blame.
  33. +2
    4 March 2023 09: 16
    Quote: Hagakure
    It all started with the obscurantist Bolsheviks ....

    Unfortunately no
    Read at least Menshikov's letters
    But under the Bolsheviks, it was put on an industrial basis
  34. +1
    4 March 2023 09: 20
    Protecting Russians from discrimination and genocide in Ukraine - I understand this and support it unconditionally. Including by military means.

    Denazification, NATO at the gates, multiculturalism, the fight against satanic geyropa... - I don't give a damn. Reminds me of the slogans of the First World War. Just as muddy.

    And when they start ranting about the fact that they say that this is our national people, beauty and pride ... I would like to say - if you value them so much, go live with them in their republics.
    Yes, we have a single federation, common borders and currency. But as in an apartment building, everyone should live in their own apartment, and not hang around their neighbors. We went to visit each other on holidays, sat and went home.
  35. 0
    4 March 2023 09: 21
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    That's right, roads in Russia have become noticeably better, but about everything else...

    Roads are also trouble! Maybe you live somewhere in the suburbs, otherwise MRAK. crying
    1. +3
      4 March 2023 12: 32
      Quote: fa2998
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      That's right, roads in Russia have become noticeably better, but about everything else...

      Roads are also trouble! Maybe you live somewhere in the suburbs, otherwise MRAK. crying

      The route to Kazan in the Moscow region? And the track "Don", "Krym"?
      The questions are mainly for local roads, but this is also a question for the local authorities.
      In general, a lot of money is allocated for roads and they have become clearly better.
      Although of course not everywhere.
    2. 0
      5 March 2023 15: 42
      In the Oryol region, Kursk, Voronezh, regional and district roads may not be in excellent condition, but they are still much better than in Soviet times. Federal highways are definitely not bad.
  36. +10
    4 March 2023 09: 31
    I am Russian! Ready to say it everywhere. If on the basis of this you can consider me an extremist, then I am an extremist!
    1. +7
      4 March 2023 09: 53
      Quote: Alt7729
      I am Russian! Ready to say it everywhere. If on the basis of this you can consider me an extremist, then I am an extremist!

      If anyone has heard this song, which, by the way, was released first in the New Year's light, then there is nothing there that humiliates other peoples, moreover, it was approved by the state. So, nothing shines for a certain citizen who sued. costs to pay
    2. -1
      4 March 2023 12: 34
      Quote: Alt7729
      I am Russian! Ready to say it everywhere. If on the basis of this you can consider me an extremist, then I am an extremist!

      The author, because of the denunciation of one go ... that one, began to sculpt global conclusions.
  37. -7
    4 March 2023 09: 42
    After reading this opus, I want to ask the question why the guys from Chechnya and Tatarstan should participate in the NWO, this is the business of the Russians! Write articles to your health, deal with the Ukrainians with your soulmate, finding out who is more Russian there, and there is no reason for other peoples to lose their young people, this is not their war. A rare infamy article, for others there is something to think about
    1. +1
      4 March 2023 12: 28
      Quote from: 1razvgod
      After reading this opus, I want to ask the question why the guys from Chechnya and Tatarstan should participate in the NWO, this is the business of the Russians! Write articles to your health, deal with the Ukrainians with your soulmate, finding out who is more Russian there, and there is no reason for other peoples to lose their young people, this is not their war. A rare infamy article, for others there is something to think about

      Have you forgotten what an oath is? Is there a law?
      This is the answer to what your guys are doing there, and also from Yakutia, Buryatia, Dagestan, and so on.
      But that the article is provocative, it is a fact.
      1. +1
        4 March 2023 14: 30
        It is clear both the law and the oath, there are no questions. And the article, I agree with you, is extremely provocative
  38. +1
    4 March 2023 09: 50
    "which is always supplemented with the words "Allahu Akbar""
    What does the author have against these words? If Islam is not prohibited in our country? In a multinational state?
    in Islam - the exaltation of Allah with the words "Allahu Akbar" (الله أكبر‎ [ʔaɫ.ɫaː.hu ʔak.baru])[1]. Translated from Arabic, the expression "Allahu Akbar" means "Allah is Great!"[2] or "Allah is the Greatest"[3]. Used as a sign of joy. Takbir is pronounced during azan, prayer, during Eid al-Adha, during dhikr.
    1. -3
      4 March 2023 10: 06
      The author is disgusted by both the words and those who say it :))) everything is obvious in his scribble, he does not hide it on the contrary. Although we must pay tribute to him, the opus makes you think, why do my two nephews who are fighting in the Russian army on the historical territory of Russia with historical Russians like Ukrainians do there?!? If the war is for the revival of Russian identity, then what have my relatives forgotten there?!?!?
  39. +6
    4 March 2023 09: 55
    Quote: fa2998
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    That's right, roads in Russia have become noticeably better, but about everything else...

    Roads are also trouble! Maybe you live somewhere in the suburbs, otherwise MRAK. crying

    Well, they really build and repair a lot. I don’t remember when I used to dig from spring to autumn. Previously, the city was allocated an amount for the repair of 1-2 roads a year. Now the whole city has been dug up
  40. +9
    4 March 2023 10: 07
    Quote: Ivan Fokin_2
    Again a provocative article, I am not Russian but I speak Russian, my children and grandchildren studied and study in Russian, and they speak Russian. I want to ask a question, show me at least one Russian who studies in an Avar school or speaks Avar. In a 140-million country, there are a million Avars, which means that the central channels should broadcast all programs for 2,5 days in Avar a year. I am already 65 years old, but not a single film in the Avar language has been filmed. Two brothers of my grandfather did not return from the Second World War, and the grandfather himself returned disabled, there were only three of them. Where there is at least one film about Dagestanis, it means that we have the right to die for our country, but we do not have the right to make films and hear native speech from central TV. In this regard, the question is, who in our country has more rights? The country thinks, speaks and lives according to the laws adopted in Moscow, what's wrong?

    In Russia, the state language is Russian. Everything should be conducted on it - training, office work, information, military protection of the state and education. This is the ABC and the axiom of any statehood. National languages ​​can have optional functions for the preservation of national culture, for this no one forbids in the national republics of Russia to have television studios in the national language, media in the national language and a certain number of lessons at school.
    So no one forbids you to create films in the Avar language. And here is what you are whining like that
    about the Russian language, this is a clear contempt for the state language of the country ...
  41. +3
    4 March 2023 10: 25
    We are all Russian. Just different ethnic groups. All you have to do is replace the term "dear Russians" with "Russian people" and that's it. Fix this at the legislative level, such as "the Russian people historically formed from representatives of various ethnic groups living on the territory of the Russian Federation." Something in this spirit. This is at the official level and the media. And at the household level, we already know who and where. You don't need to invent anything. And ethnic extremism in any form should be strictly suppressed by the state
    1. -1
      4 March 2023 13: 16
      Quite right. Russians are a territorial concept. It is connected with the features of the outdated Russian language.
      We are Novgorod, we are Yaroslavl, we are Moscow...
      It's not an adjective - What?
      This adverb is from where?
      But Russian-speakers, due to the widest distribution area, have strong mental differences.
      The presence of one language does not automatically make people one people, just as the presence of different languages ​​does not mean the need to urgently separate and live separately.
      It's a matter of attitude.

      The Austrians with the Germans and the German cantons of Switzerland are different peoples. (at least for now).

      And the inhabitants of St. Petersburg and Donetsk are one people. (at least now) Although they have almost more mental differences than the Germans and the Austrians.

      The same with the Ukrainians. A Ukrainian may not know the Ukrainian language at all, grow up in a Russian-speaking family and communicate in Russian in everyday life. But if he perceives himself as a Ukrainian in his soul, then he is a Ukrainian.
    2. +1
      5 March 2023 10: 12
      You're wrong.
      Russians are just an ethnic group. Russians - citizenship. It is correct to say - "We are all Russians of different ethnic groups", because we are talking about all the inhabitants of Russia. Russians are a people living in many countries of the world. Ethnicity, not citizenship or place of residence.
  42. +2
    4 March 2023 10: 29
    All Putin's governments are pursuing a policy of accelerated migrant replacement of the indigenous Russian population - a policy of genocide of the Russian people.
    According to the Russian article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, only Russians, nationalists, migrants and other non-Russians are imprisoned - never.
    It is possible to incite enmity and hatred towards Russians in the Russian Federation with complete impunity, but vice versa - it is impossible.
  43. +2
    4 March 2023 11: 29
    The Bolsheviks began to actively fight against Russian "chauvinism", right and left handing out lands developed and developed by the Russian Empire and the continuation of this arrangement during the Soviet era. The result of the actions of the "Party - the mind, honor and conscience of our era", its "smartest" policy - NWO. It is much easier for bureaucratic brethren to try to crush Russian self-consciousness in order to prevent interethnic tension, in their opinion, than to pursue a policy that unites all the peoples inhabiting Russia.
  44. 0
    4 March 2023 11: 49
    The article itself is a very mild but palpable provocation. Not kindling, but warming up discord for sure.
    1. +4
      4 March 2023 12: 23
      Quote: stankow
      The article itself is a very mild but palpable provocation. Not kindling, but warming up discord for sure.

      That's what I'm talking about... support. I also wrote below.
  45. +5
    4 March 2023 12: 20
    A strange author, does not know the singer Shaman, talks about Russians ..
  46. +2
    4 March 2023 12: 21
    Now I’m getting minuses, but I’ll say, what kind of nonsense?
    Is it again proposed in Russia to allocate Russian autonomy? Divide the country again?
    I have never heard from anyone that someone forbids telling me that I am Russian.
    If I remember correctly, more than 80% of Russians in Russia, by all definitions, Russia is a mono-ethnic country.
    There are fewer French people in France.
    I remember one illiterate person. blurted out that the word Russia was banned in the USSR.
    The author should remember that according to the Constitution, our country is called the Russian Federation - Russia.
    Russia!!!
    What other Russia does the author want to single out from Russia?
    Where did he get that there is a ban, for example, on the Russian choir, etc.?
    And it’s not bad for him to remember that Ukraine was singled out for the first time under the Provisional Government. Under the liberals, not the Bolsheviks.
    Generally a provocative article.
    Although, of course, Russian culture needs to be given more attention. There is no dispute here.
  47. -1
    4 March 2023 12: 26
    Sometimes radical authors compare nations to herds of cattle. Pushkin, for example ....
    BUT the cattle follow the bull who will protect the herd. And the people can follow those who ruin them ... Cattle are smarter.
    1. -3
      4 March 2023 13: 13
      Quote: ivan2022
      radical authors compare nations to herds of cattle. Pushkin, for example ....

      Do you mean these lines:

      "Desert sower of freedom,
      I went out early, to the star;
      A clean and innocent hand
      In the enslaved reins
      Threw a life-giving seed -
      But I lost only time,
      Good thoughts and labors ...

      Ride, peaceful people!
      You will not be awakened by the call.
      Why herds of gifts of freedom?
      They should be cut or cut.
      Their inheritance from generation to generation
      A yoke with rattles and a scourge."
  48. +1
    4 March 2023 12: 59
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    I have always considered and still consider myself Russian... let them kill me or imprison me for this, but I will not give up my nationality until my death.
    For one simple reason... my entire worldview rests on Russian culture, history, traditions, grandmother's tales, epics, poems, riddles, sayings and then.
    And I do not accept people who call for abandoning all this for the sake of some kind of political trend in our state.
    At first I am a Russian person, and only then a Russian, and in no way vice versa ... and I am not afraid to say this to everyone in public.

    The Bashkir poet Mustai Karim said this well -
    https://stihi.d3.ru/ne-russkii-ia-no-rossiianin-mustai-karim-977984/?sorting=rating
  49. +3
    4 March 2023 13: 06
    Quote: Ivan Fokin_2
    Again a provocative article, I am not Russian but I speak Russian, my children and grandchildren studied and study in Russian, and they speak Russian. I want to ask a question, show me at least one Russian who studies in an Avar school or speaks Avar. In a 140-million country, there are a million Avars, which means that the central channels should broadcast all programs for 2,5 days in Avar a year. I am already 65 years old, but not a single film in the Avar language has been filmed. Two brothers of my grandfather did not return from the Second World War, and the grandfather himself returned disabled, there were only three of them. Where there is at least one film about Dagestanis, it means that we have the right to die for our country, but we do not have the right to make films and hear native speech from central TV. In this regard, the question is, who in our country has more rights? The country thinks, speaks and lives according to the laws adopted in Moscow, what's wrong?

    Do they exist, your Avar, Dagestan film directors? If there is, why not remove it? sad
  50. +3
    4 March 2023 13: 12
    Quote: DominickS
    Because they have mono-ethnic states.

    The Russian Federation, for example, is a more mono-ethnic state than Israel
  51. +12
    4 March 2023 13: 20
    The article raises the most important problem - the difficult situation in which the main subject of our history - the Russian people - has found itself. Written with bitterness and a desire to correct this situation. But, alas, most of the conclusions are erroneous, although in some places they are plausible.
    1) The author connects the origins of de-Russification with Soviet nationality policy. This is directly incorrect; nationality policy in the USSR had its shortcomings, but no “derussification” was carried out. The USSR stood on several basic ideas: one of which was friendship of peoples, while after 1985 and especially after 1991 this basic idea was to divide peoples, pit them against each other and rule. In 1985, it was impossible even in a nightmare to imagine what happened in the late 80s, much less what is happening now. This is a direct consequence anti-Soviet national policy.
    2) Even more significant for the author is the Russian policy of building a civil nation, which leads to de-Russification. This is even more untrue. Civil nationalism (which the author for some reason puts in quotation marks) is generally the basic technology for building a bourgeois society in the West, no less important than a market economy. They have nothing to do with the dismantling of the people on the basis of which the nation is created. For example, modern France was formed during the bourgeois revolution of the late 18th century, but the formation of the French nation has nothing to do with the destruction of the French. If our authorities were really building a civil nation according to the classical model, then they would just carry out Russification politics.
    3) The author also drags in multiculturalism as our misfortune. This is also incorrect. Multiculturalism is the technology of modern capital. society in the West, which is not related to the creation of advantages for minorities, but is related to the preservation of their cultures while fitting into civil society. This is a technology for rebuilding Western society without a dominant cultural core. This has nothing to do with us - we do not have a civil society itself.
    4) What do we have? We have a completely different, but very difficult problem. In our country, after 1990 (finally after 1993), an alliance of the changed part of the party and the KGB of the USSR with the criminal world and a small anti-Soviet part of the capital’s intelligentsia came to power. Their goal was to seize, hold and plunder property. In fact, the gang took over the city. In such a situation, the main enemy of the gang is any large association of citizens that will be against the plunder of this city. That is, the main enemy of the government since 1993 is precisely the Soviet people (“Soviet”) and its basis is the Russian people. Are the Russian people, even in the form of a capitalist civil society where the main thing is the law, interested in Kakha Benukidze capturing and plundering Uralmash? Is he interested in the actions of Abramovich and Berezovsky, Friedman and Rottenberg? Rhetorical question. But they are naturally interested in scattering people into human dust. It is then that they can calmly control property. This is the source of de-Russification in the Russian Federation.
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  53. +5
    4 March 2023 14: 00
    There is a law that everyone must adhere to equally, no matter whether you are Russian or Uzbek. Then there will be no Chelyabinsk incidents. And if there are different priorities, then what is there to talk about, plus corruption. One answer is to restore order in the country.
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  55. +3
    4 March 2023 15: 01
    This was done by some citizen from the Tula region, who considered that the song called “I am Russian” allegedly “incites ethnic hatred.”


    Many such individuals for whom the word Russian is offensive and evokes hostile feelings should be deprived of Russian citizenship and deported to their historical homeland...
    For the most part, these are visiting “mold” who imagine themselves to be the masters of the Russian land.

    Everything is moving towards the fact that after Ukraine, denazification and the harsh elimination of Russophobia will need to be carried out throughout Russia, since these movements have assumed proportions that threaten the existence of the Russian nation.
  56. -2
    4 March 2023 15: 16
    Quote: Stas157
    Quote: Hagakure
    It all started with the obscurantist Bolsheviks ....

    Here the Bolsheviks just had no problems with nationalities. There were no mono-ethnic republics with their charters.

    So these Bolshevik Judases, mostly Jews by nationality, created the current interethnic problems in Russia by cutting mono-national republics from the lands of the Russian Empire, often made up from thin air, such as Ukraine or Kazakhstan....
  57. -9
    4 March 2023 15: 19
    1. Russians - those who live in Russia, fled, left, or so on.
    2. All nations speak Russian, and the state language too.
    3. Half of those who are for Russianness are accomplices of Bandera, the State Department, the CIA and MI6. Because this is such a point of cleavage that it’s simply creepy. Ukrainians are Russians with an inverted consciousness.
    4. I saw so many Russians in the army - that it’s hard to say that half of them are Europeans.
    5. We are like Dags - there is no such nation, there are Avars, Dargins, Kumyks, etc., and Russians - Slavs of several waves, Uighur-Tatars, and God knows who else. We are united by language and culture, and Mother Earth.
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  58. -8
    4 March 2023 16: 10
    The author cites the Jew (Strelkov - stage name - actually Girkin), Arsen (!) Pavlov as Russian heroes. Arsen is actually an Armenian name. And there was Givi... All the "Russian" people...
    1. -3
      4 March 2023 16: 54
      To be honest, we must remember the commander-in-chief of the Red Army, Trotsky. Was able to protect the integrity and independence of the RSFSR.

      Unlike the Russian Denikin. Who commanded the Volunteer Army created in the territories occupied by the Germans. And he was buried in the USA by Truman in 1947 with honors as the commander in chief of the allied army.
      1. +3
        4 March 2023 18: 04
        It’s not true about Denikin (it seems he created an army in Rostov-on-Don, but there were no Germans there), and Trotsky defended integrity only within truncated borders. But in general it’s better not to argue about the civil war, everyone was “to blame”, I would say so.
  59. +5
    4 March 2023 17: 41
    Quote: Stas157
    For example, the well-known Abramovich has 6 children. This is understandable, because even if there were 60 of them, they would not cause him any material or physical inconvenience (unlike those who make ends meet).

    He and his wives had who knows how many. He took advantage of a young woman, began to age, and married the next one. From each there is a child. Here are six
  60. +6
    4 March 2023 17: 47
    So this is old technology. We are forced to pay and repent. And if we start to win somewhere, then we will definitely be persecuted where we are not ready to give battle.
    1. -7
      4 March 2023 18: 24
      He who has hearing, let him hear, he who has intelligence, let him think... We need to grow what unites us, what we have cemented with our blood... And the author of the disgusting scribble (I’ll probably be banned, but even so) is a rare devil and a provocateur
  61. +7
    4 March 2023 19: 21
    The vertical of power, carefully built by GDP, is afraid of everything. They either have “tame” communists, socialists, nationalists, patriots, or prison, or even worse... A passionate electorate at the vertical of power, capable of taking up arms and going into battle for the ideas of the party and the leader of the country, and not a concert for 500 rubles, no, that’s why people have a lot of questions and the desire to help the authorities is almost zero. The managerial “talent” of the “strategist” turned out to be nothing, the king is naked, his retinue is buffoons, and the Russian people, as usual, must disentangle the “multiple moves” of the idiot boyars.
  62. +1
    4 March 2023 19: 26
    We are united by language and culture, and Mother Earth.

    1) language cannot unite, just as any other tool cannot unite. Example: some use an ax and others use a machete. Could an ax or a machete be a unifying cause? No.
    2) the earth cannot unite if a person has free will and where to go.
    3) culture is a very vague concept. Like - one destiny.
    Only two things can be united:
    1) values ​​(material, etc.)
    2) priority of values.
    Example: everyone values ​​money, but some are ready to take it by robbery or like jackals, while others rightfully want to get rich.
    1. -3
      4 March 2023 19: 40
      There are also intangible values.
      Russian values, Jewish values, Chechen values...
  63. +4
    4 March 2023 20: 27
    It has been more than 30 years since the “nationality” column disappeared from the personal documents of citizens of the Russian Federation. All the nations and peoples inhabiting the Russian Federation have become, incomprehensibly, common Russians.
  64. -5
    4 March 2023 21: 13
    Russian is an international concept!!!
    You live in Russia, you worry about your Country - that means you are Russian!
    Russian is an adjective, i.e. Russian Tuvan, Russian Chechen, Russian Mordvin, Russian Tatar, Russian Avar, Russian - etc., but in the end Russian!
    There are people who do not understand this, and there are people who understand, but want to replace this concept with the name Russian (EBN).
    Therefore, for foreigners we are all Russian!!!
    1. +1
      5 March 2023 09: 24
      No, you don’t understand this, since you are pushing the Russophobic myth about “Russian is an adjective.”
      The word "Russian" is a homonym, that is, it is both a noun and an adjective. Russians - people, nationality, ethnicity.
      There are no “Russian Tuvans, Russian Chechens” in nature - there are RUSSIAN Chechens, Russian Tuvans, and other Russian peoples. If a person is Russian, then he cannot be part of the Tatar people, if a person is Tatar by nationality, then he cannot be Russian by nationality. Everyone who tries to disagree with this is the enemy of Russian national identity, eroding it. With this approach, you will ultimately lead to the emergence of such mutant hybrids as “Tuvan Chechen”, “Avar Tatar”, “Mordovian Karel” - so that the perverts from the West with their 73 sexual genders will cry with envy!

      And for foreigners, all residents of Russia are Russians, remember this.
      From Russian to English the words “Russians” and “rossiyanie” are translated exactly the same way, in one word - “Russiansс”. And it’s precisely these faceless “Russians” that you are trying to fashion out of Russians with your Russophobic approach!!! Moreover, what is important is that the small peoples of Russia, Uzbeks, Tajiks, and other foreigners, never forget their national identity and never renounce it!
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  66. +4
    4 March 2023 22: 42
    Quote: Vladimir80
    Here the main question is how to define this national identity, belonging? By last name, by the language we speak, or by the column in the passport?

    Yes, somehow we managed it before.
  67. +5
    4 March 2023 23: 25
    I wanted to remain silent, but I couldn’t.
    First, information was received about the Ukhtomsky district of Moscow, then they specified Kozhukhovo.

    I quote:
    "About the construction of a huge mosque in the Moscow district of Kozhukhovo. Another case when internal enemies (or, I would like to think, stupid people) do a huge job for the external enemies of the country.
    There is a fierce battle in the Donbass, the future of Russia and the entire world reconstruction is being decided. To do this, first of all, we need the consolidation of society. And right next door, everything is being done to ensure that there is no consolidation, so that people will squabble with each other, and even on the topic of religion. So that you understand the size of the disaster - a colossal mosque for 60 thousand visitors is going to be built not just in the quiet and nice microdistrict of Kozhukhovo, where there are no interethnic problems, all the residents greet each other, where a quarter of the population are military men and their families."

    And then there’s what I had no idea about. I didn’t know what Kozhukhovo was.

    “They are going to build a mosque 300 meters from the Holy Lake. The Holy Lake is of ancient, glacial origin, it became known after the battle on the Kulikovo Field, when soldiers wounded in the battle, upon returning to Moscow, treated their wounds in the mineral-filled water of the lake. That's when they called him the Saint. The lake is an Orthodox shrine, the icon of St. Nicholas the Wonderworker was found there, religious processions go to the lake, believers plunge into church holidays there. And at Epiphany, a font is traditionally placed there, where thousands of people come, even non-believers. On the Holy Lake, the same 300 meters from the construction site stands the first Orthodox church of Kozhukhovo, 300 meters diagonally stands the second, the Trinity Church, where all the Orthodox of the region come. 300 meters away, do you understand?

    The construction of a mosque is a direct insult to Christians and a clash between them and Muslims, which will not end well. And conflicts at such short distances are INEVITABLE - every day thousands of Muslims, mostly, as we understand, migrants, will leave the Ulitsa Dmitrievskogo metro station in an organized manner and collide with thousands of residents of the area. Who invented all this and why?

    The largest mosque should be in Dagestan, Kabardino-Balkaria, Chechnya and other regions with a predominant Muslim population, but not in Moscow, as I remind you, the Third Rome! Currently, residents of Kozhukhovo are listening, writing letters, and forming groups on social networks. Most importantly, they do not understand WHO ordered the construction and why the project did not even pass public hearings. At the tightly fenced construction site there is not a single announcement about what will be built here..."

    This is how it is with our spirituality, with holy places - impudently, with a grin, rustling banknotes in their pockets, they say, they, the Russians, can tolerate this! And if they will endure it, then it is necessary.
    And here you, colleagues, have speculated about who the Russians are and whether they even exist in nature. These people even wipe our feet for money, but here on the forum you are free.

    So who are they, those for whom we, Russians, are a doormat?
    Offhand, to a first approximation - the mayor of Moscow Sobyanin as the manager of municipal lands, then - the former renovator Sobyanin, and now Deputy Prime Minister Khusnullin, and so on... Continue yourself.
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      5 March 2023 09: 17
      Quote: depressant
      Offhand, to a first approximation - the mayor of Moscow Sobyanin as the manager of municipal lands, then - the former renovator Sobyanin, and now Deputy Prime Minister Khusnullin, and so on... Continue yourself.

      In general, I believe that such structures should be built only AFTER a referendum among local residents. Only! This cannot be left to the city authorities. Interesting situation. The number of religious buildings is simply off the charts, but! And where, may I ask you, are the leisure centers for residents of microdistricts? you can simply count it on the fingers of one hand. Where are the centers for young people that are interesting to them? But all kinds of shopping centers are growing by leaps and bounds. Is this the concern for the younger generation? Is this the search for ideology?
  68. +2
    5 March 2023 00: 25
    Because the Russian people are, perhaps, the only large people that does not have its own statehood and its own national rulers. During the Troubles, we had a chance to install a Russian Tsar, but the Germans, the Romanovs, became the Tsars. Before this, the Russified Swedes. In the entire history of Russia, it has not had a single Russian ruler, just as it does now. Nominally the country of Russians is Russia, but in fact this is not so. The Kurds are in roughly the same situation, but it’s even worse. The most “Russian” in history was Stalin, hence the popular love for him among the broad masses, despite all his excesses. Someday, I hope, we will have our own 4th of July, our own day of true independence.
  69. 0
    5 March 2023 01: 29
    A nation without national identity is just a human community inhabiting a certain territory. As long as Russians perceive themselves as the cement of the Russian nation, there will be Russia!
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  71. +2
    5 March 2023 08: 32
    The reasons for Russophobia are known - the Mauser nobility sleeps and sees how to destroy the Russian people.
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      5 March 2023 13: 35
      And that Stalin was friendly to the Russian people, and the origins of this hatred of the Russians, as it is not sad to admit, come from socialism - internationalism for the Russians, where the Russian people acted as black soil and manure for the cultivation of socialist republics. The Russian people did not care about socialism from of which the Russians had nothing and everything ended in 1991. It is necessary to make life in Russia normal for the people in terms of medicine, education, pensions and other social and other issues. The Russian people will then understand the authorities and do a lot.
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        5 March 2023 16: 30
        Under socialism, the number of Russian people constantly grew. The standard of living grew, the supply of housing and social norms grew, which doubled by the end of the USSR, from 6 to 12 square meters per person + 10 additional for all family members. Life expectancy increased, science and production developed, there were fewer scarce goods, many types of goods became more accessible and cheaper.
        Everyone who tells lies about “socialism gave nothing to the Russian people,” and you too, are cynical, arrogant, unscrupulous liars!!!
  73. 0
    5 March 2023 09: 53
    Thus, the separatist who spoke out for Islamization and against Russian statehood is now revered as a hero, in Chechnya the courts are named after him, and the Russian authorities fully approve of this.

    Yeahhhh... really - Expert... When did Russia manage to annex Chechnya that Sheikh Mansur became a separatist?((((((
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      6 March 2023 20: 15
      Read a couple more books, maybe you will understand what rais means, origin
  75. 0
    5 March 2023 13: 25
    Why, the question to the author, the main slogan of the special operation suddenly became Akhmat-force. A sick imagination drew, but it seemed to me, and probably to many, that the main slogan was the same as it was 80 years ago. Our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated and victory will be ours .And there is no need to invent anything. How can we understand that the military operation did not produce leaders, the author did not specify which ones, if the military are a dime a dozen, it is not for nothing that we have been fighting the enemy courageously for a year now, and in political terms, many different charismatic leaders have appeared , I won’t go into depth, just offhand, but how do you like Mr. Prigozhin, there are many respectable leaders in special operations and not only. Yes, and somehow the article sets priorities incorrectly, such as Russia is carrying out Russification in Ukraine, what are you talking about, and Are you a Cossack sent by the SBU? We have other tasks in Ukraine, I won’t repeat myself.
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  77. -1
    5 March 2023 23: 09
    frankly speaking, this site has always been right, but I am surprised that such topics are seriously raised and nationalism still has its supporters, especially those who write such heresy with such a serious face, Russian nationalism is not viable and at the same time it is still dangerous and nationalism in general a false idea, designed to serve business and not the people, internationalism, that's what we need, impoverished Russian and any other nationalism needs to be opposed by Russian internationalism, then everything will change for the better.
    1. 0
      5 March 2023 23: 38
      In Russia, saying that a person is Russian is “nationalism”. We made it...
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        9 March 2023 11: 07
        What difference does it make whether you are Russian or Tatar, Ukrainian or Belarusian? Whatever he was, and the nation is the concept of the century before last, like religion, it's all nonsense. How many cases when Russian, exploited, threw, humiliated Russian? Their own Russians on Maybachs ride along the central streets and spit on their own fellow citizens.
  78. -3
    6 March 2023 01: 32
    All the peoples of various nationalities who live in Russia are originally Russian!!!
    You have to feel it! We are brothers - people of different nationalities and this must be felt - Russian Dagestan, Russian Chechen, Russian Mordvin, Russian Buryat...
    We are an international Country and this is our strength!
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      8 March 2023 10: 58
      There are no “Russian Dagestanis”, “Russian Chechens”, “Russian Buryats”. There are RUSSIAN Chechens, Russian Buryats, Russian Mordvins. And Dagestanis are not a nationality at all, but the name of the inhabitants of Dagestan.
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  80. +3
    6 March 2023 05: 59
    In any article about the victory of our people in the Second World War, as soon as someone dares to say “Russian”, commentators immediately rush in ordering to say “Soviet”. Russians cannot be mentioned! Intolerant! WHY NOT? I am Russian and my grandfathers were all Russian and fought for Russia. And they won. And there was an absolute majority of Russians - 80%. I have every right to say that the Russians won. And then add that with the help of other peoples of the USSR
  81. +1
    6 March 2023 14: 36
    I agree with the author, it’s a sad situation. The still largest nationality in the Russian Federation has, in fact, been deprived of its rights for 100 years. In the West they understand that there will be no Russians (Russians, Russians, Slavs) Russia will turn into a territory, crumble into national fragments. Our own government is afraid of the self-awareness of the people, does not give them ideology and a sense of dignity. This is scary. You need to be proud of your origin, country, history. Not to the detriment of other nations, but simply because you are Russian. In every normal family, the best are the father, mother, husband, wife, and children. This is not a reason to offend your neighbor. I look forward to seeing pride and a sense of community, patriotism and understanding of values ​​awaken in people who think in Russian. I am Russian!
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      14 March 2023 15: 50
      Quote: Roman_2022
      The still largest nationality in the Russian Federation has, in fact, been deprived of its rights for 100 years. In the West they understand

      But this is just class!!! In the West they understand that if the largest nation cannot defend itself, it must be helped... Just come home and help the poor. The German Fuhrer wrote about this a hundred years ago. And on this thesis about constant oppression by everyone and everywhere, about the obvious inferiority of Russians, all modern, seemingly patriotic and seemingly “Russian” propaganda is built.
  82. -1
    6 March 2023 20: 03
    Is it possible?, let’s talk more broadly, does Russia consist only of Russians? Those who speak exclusively about Russians are wrong. Do you know what other nations live in the Russian Federation???
  83. +1
    8 March 2023 09: 23
    I am Russian... Moreover, I am a Russian Siberian... In my blood, the blood of Altaian Telengits, Komi-Permyaks, peasants of the southern provinces of the Russian Empire and Amur Cossacks... My children have the blood of Belarusians, and the grandchildren of Ukrainians. ..But I am RUSSIAN...And if someone starts talking about “national” hatred, then I myself will drag him to court under Article 282... Because it is not the Shaman who incites it, but that piece of biological essence , who filed a denunciation against the Shaman...
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  86. -2
    13 March 2023 13: 48
    Thanks to the author for the article. Everything is correct, this is how it is in Russia. If you used the phrase “I am Russian,” you are a great-power chauvinist, Father Lenin wrote about this. But being called a Chechen, Tatar, etc. is normal. Yes, it’s funny to watch TV, where the entire military military base is based on Chechen heroes and the Wagner PMC. Soon the phrase 1 and 2 Chechen war will be banned. Yes, what can I say, Russia is still paying Give it to Chechnya like the Horde. And this SVO is in the interests of Russian oligarchs, not a single one of whom is Russian. As long as we call Russians Russians, like the drunkard Eltsin, the future of the Russian World is under threat.