There are reports of an attack by a Ukrainian sabotage group on the border region of the Bryansk region

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There are reports of an attack by a Ukrainian sabotage group on the border region of the Bryansk region

Alarming reports are coming this morning from the Bryansk region. Bryansk governor Alexander Bogomaz publishes materials in his telegram channel, in which he talks not only about the shelling of the border regions of the region, but also about the penetration of the Ukrainian sabotage group.

In one of the posts in the TG, Alexander Bogomaz reports that in the morning an enemy DRG infiltrated the village of Lyubechane in the Klimovsky district.



The post says that Ukrainian saboteurs fired at a moving car, as a result of which a local resident died and a schoolboy was injured. The child was taken to the hospital, he is receiving medical care.

Bogomaz:

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are taking all the necessary measures to eliminate the sabotage group.

At the same time, the question arises why the Russian Armed Forces are engaged in this kind of activity when there is the Border Guard Service, the National Guard and other law enforcement agencies whose duties include neutralizing threats on Russian territory. Perhaps the governor of the Bryansk region used the term in a general sense - all power structures.

After some time, a message appeared from Bogomaz about an UAV attack on the village of Sushany in the same Klimovsky district. It is located a few hundred meters from the border with the Chernihiv region, controlled by the Kyiv regime.

Bogomaz:

The village of Lomakovka, Starodubsky municipal district, was subjected to mortar fire. There were no casualties as a result of the shelling, two households were damaged. Emergency services are on site.

After some time, military correspondents began to report that the enemy's DRG had seized hostages in one of the villages of the Klimovsky district. We are talking about a sabotage group of several dozen people. It is also reported about the explosion of a local electrical substation. The authorities of the Bryansk region have not yet confirmed the data on the capture of hostages by Ukrainian militants.
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    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. +56
      2 March 2023 12: 27
      Mr. President, these are not lines, these are rivers of blood of our people on our territory! What's next????????????? am
      1. +7
        2 March 2023 12: 31
        More frightening is the uncertainty of how everything will develop further and how to stop it all now. I hope that what is happening now was at least somehow worked out at the highest levels and this scenario was at least hypothetically worked out. Not specifically this event, but the general picture of the whole svo.
        1. -3
          2 March 2023 13: 18
          What? Do you think this is no longer the plan?
          Quote: al3x
          the scenario was at least hypothetically worked out
          1. +1
            2 March 2023 13: 44
            I didn’t have any plan and I didn’t mention anyone’s plans, and there’s nothing for me to be sarcastic about.
      2. 0
        2 March 2023 12: 32
        To begin with, you need to calmly understand
        1. +29
          2 March 2023 12: 39
          To begin with, they need to be punched in the teeth so that they are gone!
          1. +7
            2 March 2023 12: 41
            Quote: Alien From
            so that they are gone!

            The situation is expected, it is surprising that only now they were able to break through, and not six months ago. In the border area, someone is regularly caught. Considering that most of the village of Lubechane is located within 500 meters from the border with Ukraine (and one of the entrances to the village is 200 meters in general), there could well have been not even a penetration of the DRG, but "oh, the Muscovites are coming, let's shoot," straight from pig territory. And for such entertainment, civilians are even better suited for warriors - they definitely don’t throw in response. They raised a panic. People began pouring out of the regional center of Klimovo, the surrounding gas stations were overflowing.
            They are scum, I watched a video the other day from Donetsk, a civilian walked out of the entrance, the pigs threw a grenade at him from a copter, but they didn’t seem to hit, in any case, he didn’t fall from a close gap.
            1. +18
              2 March 2023 13: 21
              And already six or seven months ago, at the VO forum, not only was it repeatedly expressed, but also clearly substantiated, the proposal to create ARMED local self-defense units in the border regions from the former united Ukraine. From the local population, better than anyone else, knowing their "clearing" and more than anyone interested in ensuring its safety. In cooperation, of course, with other Russian power structures...

              But the Kremlin, in such cases, prefers to continue - "wait", "express indignation" and "fix"...
              1. 0
                3 March 2023 10: 50
                And what about the Kremlin? In the Belgorod region, Governor Gladkov last November initiated the creation of territorial defense detachments in the region, and now there are about 3 militias in the border areas of the region. There are many retirees of the Ministry of Defense, pensioners of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, strong men, they know military affairs, I talked with a neighbor, he is a military pensioner, he says that they patrol the border areas in their cars, the Ministry of Defense allocated military jeeps, refueling is free. In short, the neighbor just looked younger, as if he had returned to the service .....
                1. 0
                  3 March 2023 13: 04
                  The Kremlin, "despite the fact that" TIMELY setting, conceptual study and ORGANIZATION of solving problems of this kind, as well as the deployment of an agent network in areas adjacent to the border on enemy territory, is not the business of the governor's level. Basically...

                  And it is the governor’s job, TIMELY, to “adapt” her decision to the specifics of the border situation (on both sides of the border) - “the area, population, infrastructure, the length of the border strip, etc. ...). the needs arising from it ...) before the Kremlin ...
                2. 0
                  3 March 2023 13: 09
                  "Gas for free" and all that stuff, that's fine. But such a question as giving members of territorial defense detachments the OBJECTIVELY NECESSARY RIGHT to search (persons, vehicles, etc.) in the border strip has been resolved? fig "...)?.. If so, how?..
              2. 0
                3 March 2023 13: 21
                Ukrainians won created and armed self-defense. The result - in 7 months from the moment of distribution of weapons to her, more than 4000 thousand have already been shot by her. So this is official, but actually 3 times more.
          2. +7
            2 March 2023 13: 41
            Quote: Alien From
            To begin with, they need to be punched in the teeth so that they are gone!

            The country needs operational groups that will deal with the targeted liquidation of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Security Service of Ukraine, and the political leaders of the Kyiv regime. We must make sure that no one in the ranks of the enemy sleeps peacefully, even in rear areas, even in Eastern Europe. Ukraine is now for us like Al-Qaeda (recognized as a terrorist organization in Russia and banned). It is clear with the front line, but political liquidations should become one of the types of counteraction to the Kyiv regime.
            1. 0
              2 March 2023 22: 16
              The country needs operational groups that will deal with the targeted liquidation of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Security Service of Ukraine, and the political leaders of the Kyiv regime.

              It will not work: apparently, there are "gentleman's" agreements that the mob fights with the mob, and the "upper" people of both sides, as it were, are over the fight. And our elites are not at all interested in becoming a target themselves. They are too valuable for the state (in their opinion).
          3. 0
            3 March 2023 10: 04
            Great idea, dear author! Let's say this: demons climbed into the Bryansk region, killed or injured a person, Bankovskaya disappears in Kyiv, then the SBU, the administration of Zeleny's atman, is successively erased. Repeatedly, the target becomes the CIA, the Capitol, the White House, and everywhere else. After all, these "hundreds", in other words, "Gadarin pigs" do not understand any other language than the language of force. When they realize that their "children of the female dog" will be taken everywhere, then they will calm down.
            1. 0
              3 March 2023 13: 26
              Well, yes. Try to find someone from the Zelensky gang or the SBU. They are like moles in burrows, moving every few hours. Look, the Ukrainians claim that their president generally only occasionally crawls out of the bunkers to the surface. And it’s not the Ukrainians who are guarding it, the convoy seems to be English. The top of the SBU does not lag behind the president. She probably bought all her secret apartments. Or maybe he’s sitting in dugouts, they dug up everything immeasurably. Look, judging by the trenches, you really will believe that they dug up the Black Sea.
            2. 0
              3 March 2023 17: 08
              Of course, the Capitol and Buckingham Palace do not have their own missiles, and nothing will fly in response to your "brilliant" plans to punish them!
        2. +26
          2 March 2023 12: 44
          Quote: ZhEK-Vodogrey
          To begin with, you need to calmly understand

          To begin with, it is not necessary to capture the DRG, and after an intensive interrogation, shoot on the spot. am
          1. 0
            2 March 2023 20: 27
            Quote: Bearded
            Quote: ZhEK-Vodogrey
            To begin with, you need to calmly understand

            To begin with, it is not necessary to capture the DRG, and after an intensive interrogation, shoot on the spot. am

            You are very cruel! This is unacceptable for us! I propose that if, as a result of some kind of accident, they are caught, feed the teramisu and give them an iPhone!
      3. +2
        2 March 2023 12: 34
        Semyon Pegov reports that more than 100 people have been taken hostage.
        1. +5
          2 March 2023 13: 38
          Quote: Stas157
          Semyon Pegov reports that more than 100 people have been taken hostage.

          13:20 The paramedic, who escaped from members of the Ukrainian DRG, told the Mash Telegram channel about the first minutes of the saboteurs' attack on the village of Lyubechane. She said that servicemen in balaclavas stopped cars near the road, forced people to get out, took away their mobile phones, and tied the men's hands with tape, then seated them on a bench at a bus stop. The saboteurs spoke Ukrainian. At the stop, they scattered mines-petals. Then an explosion sounded, and the DRG members fled towards the border with Ukraine.
          The woman said that people were able to escape. The driver of one of the cars who was taking the children to the school bus was killed and the child was wounded. Despite the injury, the boy took the two girls to hide in the forest, and then he was able to catch a ride and drive off to a safe distance, where an ambulance was called for him.
          13:29 According to Mash, a military purge is underway in Lubechany. Soldiers of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the FSB go around the village and look for Ukrainian saboteurs who have taken refuge. Residents are urged to stay at home.
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      5. +6
        2 March 2023 12: 35
        For a year now we have been writing here and appealing to our leadership about strengthening the borders and protecting our citizens from adversaries, but things are still there.
        So that people do not start writing mass appeals and appeals demanding to restore order, the authorities must start working ahead of the curve and not bring the situation on the border to the limit.
        1. +7
          2 March 2023 12: 58
          Quote: credo
          For a year now we have been writing here and appealing to our leadership about strengthening the borders and protecting our citizens from adversaries, but things are still there.

          Excuse me, where HERE you turn to the leadership. VO has already become an official feedback site with the country's leadership, and site visitors are a group of advisers?
          In the grandson's diary, they did not try to contact the MO, what is there? Chesslovo, an adult
        2. 0
          3 March 2023 13: 44
          You have a direct path to the military registration and enlistment office with an application for voluntary military service and preferably a border guard.
          Before you write something, it may be worth making an assessment of the topic you are writing about. There are forests, rugged terrain, up to one 200 meters from settlements to the second 1 km. Many mixed families live and even purely Ukrainian ones. Finding observers for border guards, informers about the border regime and guides is not a problem for the special services. And the length of the border is not small.
          But most likely it could not have done without help from our side. In general, the FSB needs to work more actively there. And personnel for this work should be attracted not local. Local people can only advise.
          Well, to carry out, past the fences, dense mining of the area, otherwise there are smugglers and just lovers hanging around among friends and relatives on the other side, it’s not measured. Here such recruit - I do not want. A couple will blow up and order. The desire to violate the border regime will decrease.
      6. +23
        2 March 2023 12: 42
        Forget about the red lines, they were not just crossed by everyone, but already trampled with dirty boots, that no one can see them! Another question is how can a few dozen people cross the border unnoticed? Where were the border guards? Where are video surveillance, thermal imagers, drones? Why is the perimeter not mined / in contrast to the same Ukraine, where the entire border area is sown with mines and barriers /? Where is the advertised local militia, which should at least delay the enemy for 10 ... 15 minutes before the arrival of the RRT?
        1. 0
          2 March 2023 22: 21
          Where is the advertised local militia, which should at least delay the enemy for 10 ... 15 minutes before the arrival of the RRT?

          Are you talking about that militia to which no one gives weapons and is not going to give? With whom do they conduct drill classes and study charters? And how can such a militia detain someone even for 5 seconds?
          You are our strong militia with the Ukrainian territorial defense, to which weapons were distributed in the very first days of the SVO, and without excessive bureaucracy, do not confuse.
          1. 0
            3 March 2023 17: 16
            Well, we have such a militia, in the convey of SELF-isolation, SELF-mobilization, SELF-militia. All by myself, all by myself!
      7. +17
        2 March 2023 12: 45
        This is our peace-loving companionship will not lead to good. In addition to this, it can be noted that the Russian-Ukrainian border and its regions are today a passage yard. And this is when we have been fighting with the opposite side for a whole year!
        Well, where are these territorial defense battalions, where are the border guards, why is there no monitoring of the border. It is disgusting to see such toothlessness on our part!
        It turns out that we not only lack the strength to attack. We don’t even have anything to close the border, e-my ...
        1. +4
          2 March 2023 13: 15
          Quote: barclay
          In addition to this, it can be noted that the Russian-Ukrainian border and its regions are today a passage yard.

          It's been more than a year already as not a border, but LBS hi
        2. +4
          2 March 2023 13: 22
          Quote: barclay
          And this is when we have been fighting with the opposite side for a whole year!

          "We haven't started yet" (C) am am
      8. +4
        2 March 2023 12: 45
        Further? Deep concern and new lines, unfortunately. Are these the first civilians to die? No. There were no hostages before, but there is a first time for everything.
        1. +6
          2 March 2023 12: 56
          Then another puffing of cheeks from worsenetovich. The excellent leadership of the Ministry of Defense is apparently trying on new orders and shoulder straps. I'm still waiting for the lieutenant general, who brings me information about strategic successes in the capture of villages and cities, to be promoted to colonel general and given the star of a hero. He deserved it....
      9. +5
        2 March 2023 12: 54
        Quote: Alien From
        What's next?????????????

        a promise to punish those responsible for organizing this terrorist attack ..... well, that’s all, although calibers may fly again through electrical substations am
      10. +6
        2 March 2023 13: 01
        This once again shows that it is necessary to end this war with the liquidation of Ukraine as a country. Why exactly? Because then the other former Soviet republics and small countries of Europe will no longer have any desire to fight with Russia. When it comes to them that after the start of the war with Russia, they may lose their statehood.
      11. -4
        2 March 2023 13: 16
        What claims to Putin? On February 28.02, he said how it should be and how everything should be:

        "The Russian-Ukrainian section of the state border should be under the special control of the FSB Border Guard Service. Now a group is deployed there, which includes units of border authorities, FSB aviation, the Armed Forces and the National Guard. Your task is to put a barrier on the path of sabotage groups, to stop attempts to smuggle on the territory of Russia of weapons and ammunition.
        1. 0
          3 March 2023 17: 20
          Well, almost 10 years ago, he began to say that businesses would take their money from abroad, otherwise they could take everything there. Did he say it right too? ! But then the question is, why did hundreds of billions of foreign exchange reserves of our country end up in the bedside table of NATO countries? Why hasn't anyone been punished for this? Who is this person who just got away with the loss of several hundred billion?
      12. +1
        2 March 2023 13: 21
        well, yes, the president will take it and wave a magic stick and everything will be fine. There's only one reason, right? Kids, damn...
        1. +6
          2 March 2023 13: 55
          Is it really the task of the president only to utter how things should be? It was he who started "SVO" and it has been going on for more than a year, during which time something can already be done.
      13. -1
        2 March 2023 13: 21
        The strategic nuclear forces have been rearmed by 90 percent, this is the main thing, we will sit on them and watch the terror of the Nazis on our land.
        1. +3
          2 March 2023 14: 43
          And they said about the army that it was re-equipped by more than 70%
      14. +2
        2 March 2023 13: 27
        Quote: Alien From
        Mr. President, these are not lines, these are rivers of blood of our people on our territory! What's next?

        What next - On February 27, the local “Community of Students from Ukraine” organized a small exhibition with the state symbols of our enemy in the main building of the university.
      15. +7
        2 March 2023 13: 57
        I'm not up to you, I have the launch of the circle metro line in Moscow.
        1. -1
          2 March 2023 17: 04
          Yes, yes, and today something should have happened with the teachers in Stavropol. Hands simply do not reach the duties of the commander-in-chief.
      16. 0
        2 March 2023 14: 18
        Quote: Alien From
        Mr. President, these are not lines, these are rivers of blood of our people on our territory! What's next?????????????

        No, these are not lines at all. The red line for our guide runs along the battlements of the Kremlin wall.
      17. +2
        2 March 2023 14: 49
        He has his own parallel reality with thunderous applause from the listeners of the "messages".
      18. +1
        2 March 2023 15: 09
        It is for such indignations and media effect that there is the whole point of
      19. -1
        2 March 2023 16: 54
        Deep concern! And then from the mustache ....
      20. +1
        2 March 2023 20: 23
        Why are you the first here, and not the voice of reason? I will answer for Mr. President to you. further will be too. as with the shelling of our cities and towns. All this will become commonplace and we will gradually, as a matter of course, hear about new visits and hostage-taking. Don't disturb Mr. President, he has already called it a terrorist act. Enough of you. Don't disturb him!
        1. 0
          2 March 2023 21: 19
          1) The first comment was deleted, maybe it was the "Voice of Reason" .....
          2) It is unlikely that the first one hears us.
          3) Golden billion (but this is already philosophical) hi
    3. +23
      2 March 2023 12: 27
      Finished. That's what happens when some say, we haven't started yet.
      1. 0
        3 March 2023 17: 25
        Ukrainians have heard from their TV for 8 years, when asked why the DPR and LPR have not yet been defeated, that Ukraine is at war with Russia. The Russians from their TV heard in response that Russia had not yet come to war ... now the Russians, to their question why they still haven’t won, they hear in response that Russia is at war with NATO, and I really don’t want to know that NATO is on the war has not yet come
    4. +15
      2 March 2023 12: 27
      Well? Finished the red lines? Then, feeling impunity, they will do something else, and we will indignantly puff up our mustaches and express concern.
      1. +2
        2 March 2023 13: 50
        Quote: Gray-haired Zinnik
        Well? Finished the red lines? Then, feeling impunity, they will do something else, and we will indignantly puff up our mustaches and express concern.

        Will definitely do it!
        They never denied that they would carry out sabotage and always spoke directly about it.
        Especially since they are NOT AFRAID!!! They are not afraid of the consequences for themselves, the war has been going on for a year, and we still have a moratorium on the death penalty, even for terrorists.
        Isn't it time to take on board the experience of Israel, when the houses of terrorists are level with the ground.
    5. +21
      2 March 2023 12: 28
      Not saboteurs, but terrorists!
      Ukrainian terrorists killed people and a child, took civilians hostage, kidnapped a paramedic....

      And the Kremlin wants to negotiate with these freaks!!!
      1. +3
        2 March 2023 12: 39
        Reports about the shelling of a school bus in the village of Lubechan by Ukrainian saboteurs do not correspond to reality. https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5844843
      2. 0
        2 March 2023 12: 46
        It is not easier for those killed and maimed by these semantic games.
      3. +2
        2 March 2023 13: 29
        Quote: JonnyT
        Not saboteurs, but terrorists!
        Ukrainian terrorists killed people and a child, took civilians hostage, kidnapped a paramedic....

        And the terrorists are not destroyed, why is he still alive???
      4. +2
        2 March 2023 13: 53
        Quote: JonnyT
        Not saboteurs, but terrorists!
        Ukrainian terrorists killed people and a child, took civilians hostage, kidnapped a paramedic....

        And the Kremlin wants to negotiate with these freaks!!!

        He wants to, of course, otherwise it is not clear why the Zelensky regime has not yet been declared a terrorist one. Don't negotiate with terrorists. It means that the government reserves such an opportunity for itself.
    6. +8
      2 March 2023 12: 30
      This is already uniform terrorism, what kind of negotiations can we talk about.
      1. Hey
        +4
        2 March 2023 13: 01
        This is already uniform terrorism, what kind of negotiations can we talk about.

        How about what, it is necessary to draw up a grain deal on March 18, the deadline ends.
    7. 0
      2 March 2023 12: 32
      Not politics, but a solid "zebra" .. I wonder if the government will have enough paint to draw red lines? Or stocked up? Imported..
    8. -1
      2 March 2023 12: 33
      The further into the forest - the more firewood!
      The text of your comment...
    9. +11
      2 March 2023 12: 33
      and the shelling of the border areas of the Bryansk, Kursk and Belgorod regions, which have been going on for almost a year (!) - what is it ??? and we will hold concerts and rallies ... but we must take an example from Israel - they are in our villages with a mortar - we will give them several rockets in Chernihiv, Sumy or Kyiv
      1. +5
        2 March 2023 13: 15
        Here, one of the authorities, I don’t remember who exactly, spoke in the sense that the more destructive weapons the West supplies to Ukraine, the further the Russian Federation will push the line of defense into the depths of Ukraine in order to prevent a threat to civilians in the Russian Federation. In this case, even Western weapons were not needed, saboteurs penetrated, blew up, took hostages. I am sure that our president will not speak out about what happened, he has no time - he needs to speak at rallies, open the metro in Moscow remotely. And a lot more things. And then - think penetrated. At best, it will call on the FSB to expand, deepen and improve. Well, he will say that we have not started yet, there is a doubt whether he is in a bubble of mirages.
        1. -1
          2 March 2023 13: 57
          He will say that we are all (population) in a bubble of mirages and do not understand anything about big things ...... And in short, a flock of sheep!
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    10. -12
      2 March 2023 12: 34
      No wonder, there are not enough people in the service and not enough very much. Which one will serve for 30-40 tr. per month, without rations, without days off, without the benefits that existed during the Soviet era!? But servicemen need to support their families, well, where can you support a family with this money, if renting a house can cost half the salary !!!
      1. -8
        2 March 2023 13: 02
        Pigs popped up. To pump, to dance on the bones .....
        All this is due to insufficient work on moderation on the site. Every time, groups of Internet-KhokhloDRG run in
      2. AMG
        -1
        2 March 2023 13: 14
        Conscripts can also be rank and file, increasing their service life to at least 15 years. Build the border in the Soviet style: district-detachment-outpost. Equip for real: PCB, technical means, outfits. It looks like the border will be disturbing for a long time to come. Border schools should train combat officers, not specialists. An example is the current Golitsinskoye-1. At the main base (Golitsyno)
        1.1. Officers with higher education (training period 5 years) in the following specialties:

        - 57.05.01 Border activities, qualification - border management specialist, specialization - operational and service activities of border control units;

        - 57.05.01 Border activities, qualification - specialist in border management, specialization - personnel management of border agencies;

        - 37.05.02 Psychology of official activity, qualification - psychologist;

        - 40.05.01 Legal support of national security, qualification - lawyer.

        Upon graduation from the Institute, graduates receive a diploma of higher education and are awarded the military rank of "lieutenant".
        1. AMG
          +2
          2 March 2023 13: 19
          Error-1,5 (a year and a half). I think that's enough.
          1. 0
            2 March 2023 22: 32
            Borders can be painted for 15 years. With the same success as now. Well, every year - many months of preparation for the parade, because this is our everything.
            1. 0
              3 March 2023 09: 58
              Quote: UAZ 452
              Borders can be painted for 15 years. With the same success as now. Well, every year - many months of preparation for the parade, because this is our everything.

              And, I’m talking about the fact that the basis of the country’s defense capability is beating the edges of the beds with a slipper on a stool. Rims are the main thing!
              P.S. Did you spell "stool" correctly?
        2. 0
          2 March 2023 13: 37
          Quote from AMG
          Border schools should train combat officers, not specialists.

          As security officers in the PV, reinforcements from various branches of the military, aviation, artillery, tank ...
        3. 0
          2 March 2023 15: 21
          Everything is on point, clarification: the flanks of the outposts should not be more than 10 km in one direction.
    11. +14
      2 March 2023 12: 34
      In principle, nothing surprising. It was a matter of time. I suppose we should also expect terrorist attacks in crowded places. You can't fight half-heartedly. People are sorry.
    12. 0
      2 March 2023 12: 34
      Yes, the messages are very disturbing.
      At the same time, the question arises why the Russian Armed Forces are engaged in this kind of activity when there is the Border Guard Service, the National Guard and other law enforcement agencies whose duties include neutralizing threats on Russian territory.
      Because it is worth remembering what is part of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

      Other troops are troops that are not included in the composition. Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but along with them participate in the defense of the state.
      In accordance with the Federal Law “On Defense”, other troops include: • border troops of the Russian Federation; • Troops. the National Guard of the Russian Federation; • civil defense troops; • railway troops.
      1. -1
        2 March 2023 22: 35
        Because it is worth remembering what is part of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

        Please note: according to this table, officials with at least some military education appear only from the third step of the hierarchy. On the first two - complete amateurs in military affairs, but it is they who lead the RF Armed Forces and make key decisions.
    13. VB
      +13
      2 March 2023 12: 34
      Now we have to wait for the breakthrough of the next gang, group, detachment to Moscow. Mardan: "The Ukrainian DRG captured a Russian village in the Bryansk region. 50 people were taken hostage. A school bus was shot. There is a fight. But I still don't know if this is a red line or not. Probably not.
      If the battle was on Nikolina Gora, on the Rublevo-Uspenskoye Highway, and the Ukrainian DRG stormed the Rotenberg estate, perhaps this would be the reason for us to finally start fighting. War should be declared on Ukraine. Ukraine should be declared an enemy with all the consequences.
      There can be no trade with the enemy. No gas, no ammonia, no diesel. Any. who pays the enemy or receives money from him should be considered a traitor to the Motherland and put up against the wall.
      Ukraine has chosen war and should get so much war that the Ukrainians themselves would curse those who chose it for centuries. including two children) will in no way affect the readiness of Gazprom (whose corporate property is the state of the Russian Federation) to further increase the pumping of gas to Europe (and the so-called "Ukraine" too) through the territories controlled by respected Kiev partners.
      1. VB
        +6
        2 March 2023 13: 09
        And here are the official explanations, they say not a group of military personnel broke through, but Ukrainian nationalists. Those. there is no "red line" and there is no war and never will be. Will trade Putin. And the Russians don't care. In the next few hours, Putin is gathering the Security Council. Some people think it's war, but I think it's deep concern, condemnation, crying at the UN.
        1. 0
          2 March 2023 14: 04
          They have already announced ... there will be no meeting of the Security Council
        2. +3
          2 March 2023 14: 34
          Quote: VB
          In the next few hours, Putin is gathering the Security Council. Some people think it's war, but I think it's deep concern, condemnation, crying at the UN.

          They will carry out another conspiracy, blaspheme nasty Western partners, say pathetic words on duty, make meaningless and uncontrolled empty decisions, and part ways with the knowledge of a fulfilled duty.
        3. VB
          -2
          2 March 2023 15: 41
          Putin called it a terrorist act, just not to declare war. And this is a breakthrough across the border and a raid by military personnel of a hostile state. How did they get across the border? Bortnikov missed personally? Maybe paved the path? What an abomination. This is not a reason, this is an attack on the country. In response, you MUST use ALL means. War is not declared - this is treason to the motherland. And let the families of Putinists move to the border, to Donetsk.
      2. +2
        2 March 2023 13: 37
        Quote: VB
        "Gazprom" (the corporate property of which is the state of the Russian Federation)

        A caveat, but correct.
        Gazprom is not the property of Russia, but Russia is the property of Gazprom today.
        Capitalism has shown itself enough to be abolished.
    14. +25
      2 March 2023 12: 35
      There is a war going on, full-scale, bloody, with hundreds of thousands of soldiers on both sides, and you have to be a complete idiot to be sure that the enemy will adhere to and not cross some kind of "red lines".
    15. +13
      2 March 2023 12: 35
      By naivety, until now, I thought that "the border is locked" is not an empty phrase, familiar to the hearing of the older generation ...., they believed, they slept peacefully. The state border has become a passage yard, and in areas bordering the NWO? It doesn't look like a fake. Border guards, wow! Please clarify. situation. The enemy is insidious - does not roll ......
      1. +4
        2 March 2023 12: 38
        strange, "the border is locked" has been irrelevant for almost a year, since the Ukrainians blew up an oil depot in Belgorod by helicopter
      2. 0
        2 March 2023 12: 39
        Clarified above, downvoted, apparently they think that I'm lying.
        1. -1
          2 March 2023 12: 43
          The military, just like teachers and educators, this is a vocation, I agree that the salaries are not very good, but this is everywhere, not only among the military.
      3. -2
        2 March 2023 13: 47
        How long is that border? The outfits were reinforced only after a few months of the SVO. You can’t plant a border guard behind each bush, to reinforce them they are given army units, which provide the border guards with everything necessary in one area or another ... a banderlog breakthrough in a specific place is a definite fat minus of the organization of the service ... but one outfit is not able to stop the breakthrough several dozen.
        1. AMG
          -1
          2 March 2023 21: 54
          Why involve army units? And what? Tank, rocket, artillery? What do they know about the specifics of the service? Will they just signify presence? And it’s not easier to increase the number of PVs. There are 5 border schools, there should be schools for junior commanders. And the technique must be your own. Armored personnel carriers, helicopters, mortars, MANPADS and ZU-23 and much more. And serving in outfits: patrol, secret, ambush, etc. Find a familiar border guard and find out how the state border was guarded in the USSR.
    16. -7
      2 March 2023 12: 36
      More than 100 people held hostage by Ukrainian terrorists in the Bryansk region
      According to incoming reports, at about 10:00, about 80 Ukrainian saboteurs entered the territory of the Bryansk region and, divided, went to the villages of Sushany and Lyubechane, where they took local residents hostage.
      At the moment, the exact number of hostages is unknown, according to preliminary data, there may be more than a hundred people. Some villagers were able to escape, while others closed themselves in their homes.
      At the moment, the places where the Ukrainian terrorists operate are cordoned off by the security forces, there is a fight for the release of the hostages.
      Also on the territory of the Bryansk region, gas and power plants were blown up.
    17. +11
      2 March 2023 12: 37
      And what prevents them from entering the Bryansk region with a more serious contingent. It's also possible probing. Reconnaissance in combat.
    18. +10
      2 March 2023 12: 39
      Not a border, but a hole the size of an ocean. Where are the border guards? Who is responsible?
    19. 0
      2 March 2023 12: 40
      According to incoming reports, at about 10:00, about 80 Ukrainian saboteurs entered the territory of the Bryansk region and, divided, went to the villages of Sushany and Lyubechane, where they took local residents hostage. gas and power plants were previously blown up. Both groups are currently closed. The TsSN FSB flew to the place of the terrorist actions.
    20. +8
      2 March 2023 12: 42
      This, to the content, once again showed that our entire decision-making system was paralyzed. It is necessary to respond, and harshly, to the capture by terrorists of the civilian population, the murder of our citizens should be responded to by the methods of the Israelis, otherwise banderlogs will do such things from impunity
    21. +2
      2 March 2023 12: 42
      Soon we will wait for the poisoned wells.
    22. +6
      2 March 2023 12: 43
      I would like to ask the question of GDP - maybe it's time to start? Unfortunately, this SVO showed that before starting a SVO in Ukraine, it was necessary to conduct a SVO in the Moscow Region, PFUR ......
    23. +18
      2 March 2023 12: 43
      It is very reminiscent of the so-called ,, Chechen raids ,,. And then what? The capture of the maternity hospital (I'm afraid to even think about this) or something else like that? What should I do? Here, in the first place, what really comes to mind is how the Israelis acted and are acting. Probably just an eye for an eye. But ours won't. Head is spinning...
      1. +11
        2 March 2023 12: 48
        The Israelis have balls of steel, and Russia has Faberge ......
        1. 0
          2 March 2023 14: 12
          Oh how I agree with you! Complete confiscation of property, destruction of home ownership by a bulldozer - and then let his wife and offspring, standing on the panel, complain even to Bandera himself ...
      2. +7
        2 March 2023 13: 39
        When good chews snot, evil is omnipotent, during the Chechen war we saw enough of the seizures of settlements, as in Budenovsk it was already going on soon, and "Beslan with Nord Ost" will also see the blowing up of houses, and for Putin they are brothers.
        One of them would have gasped at the houses of his cronies, the oligarchs.
    24. +2
      2 March 2023 12: 43
      Well are you sleeping? If there is no spirit to give the order yourself, revive Stalin. But by the way ... You will still be forced.
    25. +3
      2 March 2023 12: 47
      Meanwhile, contract soldiers and conscripts on the territory of the military unit of the Bryansk region. As if nothing had happened, they are cleaning the snow.
      1. +2
        2 March 2023 14: 42
        Quote: Bomb
        Meanwhile, contract soldiers and conscripts on the territory of the military unit of the Bryansk region. As if nothing had happened, they are cleaning the snow.

        The chief said that our conscripts are untouchables - they cannot go to the front - they can kill and maim there, but they are still small and have not learned how to fight. Here they are - the cost of a year of service. In Soviet times, conscripts of dushmans drove through the mountains for a sweet soul, but now they have reduced it to nothing ...
        At the border, conscripts could well have been reinforced. Everyone just forgot that they are also soldiers.
        1. -1
          2 March 2023 16: 05
          Looks like some people are getting Alzheimer's...
    26. +1
      2 March 2023 12: 49
      Can the presidential administration, ministries, the Federal Security Service be moved there to this area and closer to the border, and then at least something can change?
    27. -10
      2 March 2023 12: 49
      Again, poor customers and where the authorities are looking, red lines and so on. It's like with doctors everyone complains about what they are grabbers, bad workers, do not treat, or officials, but the righteous like Yavlinsky are all waiting for when everything will work out and then they will go to work. They criticize the cops, but they themselves do not want to serve because they will have to deal with all the impurities of society. Could it have been prevented, destroyed? Of course, but for this you need to forget about the family and live in the field, arrange ambushes without breaks and days off, all criticizing couch experts do not want, someone has to. I’ll say more, our fighters both live in the field and sit in ambushes, only our enemy, having 200 satellites, a fifth column, and other Anbev technical gadgets, knows where ours are and, accordingly, sends them into these gaps. And most importantly, a small number of orcs are forcing us to transfer significant forces from other places. Common military tactics.
      1. +6
        2 March 2023 14: 01
        Quote: alexey_444
        Again, poor customers and where the authorities are looking, red lines and so on. It's like with doctors everyone complains about what they are grabbers, bad workers, do not treat, or officials, but the righteous like Yavlinsky are all waiting for when everything will work out and then they will go to work. They criticize the cops, but they themselves do not want to serve because they will have to deal with all the impurities of society. Could it have been prevented, destroyed? Of course, but for this you need to forget about the family and live in the field, arrange ambushes without breaks and days off, all criticizing couch experts do not want, someone has to. I’ll say more, our fighters both live in the field and sit in ambushes, only our enemy, having 200 satellites, a fifth column, and other Anbev technical gadgets, knows where ours are and, accordingly, sends them into these gaps. And most importantly, a small number of orcs are forcing us to transfer significant forces from other places. Common military tactics.

        Man, since 2014, 55 billion greens have been spent on MO every year. Officially + other budget items. About 400 billion dollars. Where's the money? If the military has nothing? No satellites, no nightlights, no cameras. Look at Belarus. We made mobile observation posts on cars. Retractable antennas, locator, cameras, night vision devices + border guards on duty .. Quadcopter duty around the clock with nightlights. The length of the border Belarus Ukraine 1084 km. Protect everything. Here, there is a war and there is nothing to protect!
        1. +7
          2 March 2023 14: 45
          Quote: cmax
          Where's the money?

          You forgot about temples, exhibition centers, tank biathlons and parades
        2. +2
          2 March 2023 14: 51
          Oh, be careful, today there was news that for criticizing the armed forces, the sentences were toughened to 15 years. And you don't have to answer awkward questions.
      2. +3
        2 March 2023 14: 43
        Eh, dear God forbid you get seriously ill somewhere in a provincial town - you will immediately understand what local doctors and medical staff are concerned about instead of fulfilling their direct duties! The Ministry of Internal Affairs has not gone far from them, although, unlike doctors, they have not been reduced and optimized since the times of the USSR, but rather increased! And about the fact that under each border post a dozen border guards should sit in ambush - so again you are wrong - where there are not enough people, there should be technical means of control, engineering measures, etc. It is unlikely that these terrorists would have managed to reach 2 villages in the Bryansk region, if there had been at least a fence in 2 rows with cameras and barbed wire on the border, and if there was also a mined strip with the possibility of it being blown up by an operator, then no one would have stuck their head in at all! Again, there are voluminous barbed obstacles, laser alarms and a bunch of everything else - but where is it all? Couldn't they have built anything over the past year? Not only did they miss almost a company of the enemy, but also no one alerted the population about the alarm! Nobody managed to hide!
    28. -13
      2 March 2023 12: 51
      DRG of several dozen people, the locals would have noticed long ago
      I think most of all they will write off any household goods to the DRG, it’s very convenient by the way
    29. +3
      2 March 2023 12: 59
      Quote: Vladimir M
      I would like to ask the question of GDP - maybe it's time to start? Unfortunately, this SVO showed that before starting a SVO in Ukraine, it was necessary to conduct a SVO in the Moscow Region, PFUR ......

      What to start? Russia is fighting in Ukraine using all its means except for atomic bombs.
    30. +2
      2 March 2023 12: 59
      Quote: Stas157
      Semyon Pegov reports that more than 100 people have been taken hostage.

      In Okhotmazin, all the cartridges were sold out.
      The seller said they will deliver only in a week.

      Quote: JonnyT
      And the Kremlin wants to negotiate with these freaks!!!


      It seems that they also wanted to “wave” the grain deal, the “partners” asked for it painfully.

      What time are we living?
      The West cares about the starving blacks, but they don't see that the Ukronazis have been killing Russians since 2014.

      How many days after this attack will Kyiv and Bankova not be touched yet, how much gas will our property still supply to Europe and Ukroreich?
    31. 0
      2 March 2023 13: 07
      After some time, military correspondents began to report that the enemy's DRG had seized hostages in one of the villages of the Klimovsky district. We are talking about a sabotage group of several dozen people.

      Never mind the border is full of holes.............
    32. +1
      2 March 2023 13: 13
      The taking of hostages was refuted, as was the shelling of the bus. I think there are not 50 of them there, but just a platoon of saboteurs, who came in, blew up and left. And the fools on the ground, to cover their asses, invented garbage.
      1. -3
        2 March 2023 13: 24
        Oh, and the paramedic turns out to be at home, and the boy is alive. But Putin collects the Security Council. Looks like they've created an excuse to announce mobilization. Clever. In general, it was immediately clear that something was wrong with these saboteurs in Black uniform with YELLOW armbands. Of course, behind enemy lines, this is how you should dress.
        1. 0
          2 March 2023 13: 45
          I watched the video, not saboteurs but clowns dressed up, clean. In short, complete bullshit.
    33. Hey
      +2
      2 March 2023 13: 13
      What do border movers think about this issue?
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    35. +3
      2 March 2023 13: 21
      Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19
      After some time, military correspondents began to report that the enemy's DRG had seized hostages in one of the villages of the Klimovsky district.
      The authorities of the Bryansk region do not confirm the information about the taking of hostages by Ukrainian saboteurs in the village of Sushany.
    36. +4
      2 March 2023 13: 24
      Why is everyone calling these freaks nationalists? These are pure terrorists. Killing civilians, taking them hostage. This is terrorism! Decent people do not negotiate with terrorists and their leadership, but destroy them. And actions of retribution are produced. Here is Israel, they deal with terrorists very well and correctly.
      And the task of the state, first of all, is to protect its citizens. Protect from everything and everyone. I think so...
    37. +3
      2 March 2023 13: 25
      The official report of the FSB on what is happening in the Bryansk region: "In the border Klimovsky district of the Bryansk region, the FSB of Russia and the attached forces of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation are taking measures to destroy armed Ukrainian nationalists who have violated the state border."
    38. +5
      2 March 2023 13: 26
      Budyonnovsk, Beslan, Nord-Ost .... Is history repeating itself?
    39. +1
      2 March 2023 13: 29
      Congratulations, today drg tomorrow btg, how many percent of sun takes part in yours? Thirty? At the same time, the border with terrorists such as ISIS is like a passage yard and no one is in a hurry to push it back ...
    40. -4
      2 March 2023 13: 35
      https://t.me/ASupersharij/16560
      only I'm afraid that the reaction will be completely opposite. They will sweep away all the hohland to the devils of the dog. If in Chechen times there would have been such an Internet as it is now, then the Chechens would have to be entered in the Red Book.
    41. -1
      2 March 2023 13: 43
      It's already over.

      Apparently there was a small penetration of 3-5-7 people into two villages. After removing the vidos, they dumped.

      In this video, White Rex was identified - this is the former right hand of Tesak.
      1. 0
        3 March 2023 09: 59
        Oh, what interesting shoes they have! :)
    42. +1
      2 March 2023 13: 49
      again in the comments screaming and crying. turned out to be fake almost everything that was written
      1. +5
        2 March 2023 13: 56
        It's not a fake that the border is full of holes and all sorts of scum climbs through it.
      2. +2
        2 March 2023 13: 58
        That is, everything is nishtyak, right? we live on, how is it according to the classics ... "everything is fine beautiful marquise"? Nothing to worry about?
      3. -1
        2 March 2023 14: 14
        Go to tg channels and watch videos of local residents
    43. 0
      2 March 2023 13: 54
      The silence in the so-called ''World Community'' about this incident is surprising, and you can’t immediately tell who benefits from this silence, probably all, just for different reasons.
      1. +1
        2 March 2023 14: 50
        And the silence may just be for the reason that there was no hostage-taking and there was no massive breakthrough, otherwise the West supports the terrorists, and the shelling of the border settlements. it's just a coincidence for them.
    44. 0
      2 March 2023 13: 57
      “At the same time, the question arises why the Armed Forces of Russia are engaged in this kind of activity, when there is the Border Service, the National Guard and other law enforcement agencies, whose duties include the work to neutralize threats on Russian territory”
      Two for the author!
      Each military unit in the border area has an area of ​​​​responsibility that they protect in the event of aggression from the enemy. Together with border guards, etc.
      1. +1
        2 March 2023 14: 47
        Quote: RED_ICE
        Two for the author!

        +1
        I should especially note the minusers who are not related to the PV, who do not know the service, but the finger on the click of the mouse in a state close to panic is inflated.
    45. 0
      2 March 2023 16: 07
      And what, when the enemy invades our territory, military conscripts also cannot be used? what
    46. 0
      2 March 2023 17: 26
      When SMERSH is revived, then the issue of monitoring the prevention and suppression of such situations will become more understandable and effective ... until there is even an analogue of Smersh and centralized coordination of actions - ukrobandits will continue to seep between the areas of responsibility of these four specialized departments (FSB, Ministry of Internal Affairs, PS FSB and RG).
    47. -1
      2 March 2023 17: 30
      The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are taking all the necessary measures to eliminate the sabotage group.

      Yes, in the beginning it is necessary to take all necessary measures to prevent it from being admitted!!!! such cases. What a way for management to react only to what has already happened? How about taking preventive measures? And again, the Main TV tells us how bad they are, and then they want bad things for us, and this, and civilians were attacked, generally bastards! Yes, we have long known who they are, maybe much earlier than this TV. Can you explain why this is allowed? Regularly...
    48. 0
      2 March 2023 17: 36
      As long as we capture potheads and let them go - exchange them for all sorts of nits like Medvedchuk, the feeling of permissiveness will grow. Where are the executions of Azov and stray geese?
    49. -1
      2 March 2023 17: 39
      Quote: ABC-schütze
      And already six or seven months ago, at the VO forum, not only was it repeatedly expressed, but also clearly substantiated, the proposal to create ARMED local self-defense units in the border regions from the former united Ukraine. From the local population, better than anyone else, knowing their "clearing" and more than anyone interested in ensuring its safety. In cooperation, of course, with other Russian power structures...

      But the Kremlin, in such cases, prefers to continue - "wait", "express indignation" and "fix"...


      ...... - well, you know .... give the same weapon to the population. But we don't accept it...
    50. -1
      2 March 2023 17: 47
      Why is the border not guarded. There is a war going on. Are the creatures in the Kremlin waiting for them to come to the 4th? Or agreed? They won't come to them.
    51. -1
      2 March 2023 22: 15
      Quote: Alien From
      To begin with, they need to be punched in the teeth so that they are gone!

      I beg your pardon, who is this for? To those who came to kill? Or to those who failed to protect? Or to those who appointed them as defenders? Or those who are not happy with something, despite the fact that everything is going according to plan?
    52. 0
      3 March 2023 10: 39
      What DRG? Also call them rebels. This is a gang of terrorists that must be destroyed. They have already announced that they have come to liberate us. Well, exactly like Adolf - the “liberator” in 41
      1. 0
        3 March 2023 17: 47
        Everyone is killing each other, amid cries that they are freeing each other - the history of humanity
    53. 0
      3 March 2023 11: 54
      In response, it is necessary to fire with Calibers at the main building of the SBU, where the security forces are holed up, as well as the place where the homeless-looking Zelensky sits. For each of their terrorist attacks, respond threefold.

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