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The new version of the fully imported armored car "Typhoon-K53949" was named "Phoenix"

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The new version of the fully imported armored car "Typhoon-K53949" was named "Phoenix"

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The Russian armored car "Typhoon-K53949", developed by the company "Remdiesel", completely got rid of imported parts in its design and is made exclusively from Russian components. The new version of the imported armored car received its own name "Phoenix". This was reported by representatives of the company.

"Remdiesel" is working on the replacement of imported components in the entire line of armored vehicles manufactured by the company. "Typhoon-K53949" became the first armored car assembled entirely from Russian parts. By the end of the year, the company promises to finish work on other models of the line.

"Phoenix" is an import-substituting car "Typhoon-K53949". It is made on a serial chassis, the possibility of its mass production has been increased, and the assembly speed has been reduced. We are import substitution of all cars, and this car is the first one to complete this process. The rest are at different stages of the import substitution process, but this year they will all be assembled as imported

- leads TASS words of the representative of Remdiesel.

Armored vehicles K-53949 4X4 are designed to transport personnel and cargo of combined arms and special units, including peacekeeping units, in various conditions. The car has high combat and operational characteristics, high controllability, speed and maneuverability on all types of roads. The multi-purpose armored car has protection against small arms weapons and explosive devices. Armament on an armored car can be set different, depending on the tasks performed.

The armored car can accommodate up to 10 people: crew - 2 + 8 troops. Curb weight - 14 tons, speed up to 100 km / h, cruising range of 800-850 km.
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  1. TIR
    TIR 27 February 2023 07: 04
    +10
    We have no problems with diesel engines. YaMZ make very good and reliable engines. It is necessary to solve the problem with the production of modern checkpoints and bridges. It is better, of course, that separate companies that are not part of KAMAZ and GAZ do this
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 27 February 2023 07: 12
      -13
      the next one is "Muscovite" for import substitution? gee...
    2. Sergey Dvornikov
      Sergey Dvornikov 27 February 2023 07: 46
      +6
      A BOSCH fuel system is installed on the yamz. The turbines are Czech. Ebu - China!!
      1. Hey
        Hey 27 February 2023 09: 21
        +6
        A BOSCH fuel system is installed on the yamz. The turbines are Czech. Ebu - China!!

        For the period of the war, engines and the car as a whole should be with a minimum configuration without any sensors, ECU, EBS and extra devices, climate controls and other crap. (Security, weapons, targeting are not subject to this principle). Minimum maintenance, maintainability is important for everything.
        1. Arsen1
          Arsen1 27 February 2023 11: 15
          +5
          without any sensors, ECU, EBS and extra devices, climate controls and other crap
          So we are talking about the turbine and the fuel system. They are also superfluous during the war
        2. ycuce234-san
          ycuce234-san 27 February 2023 19: 11
          0
          Quote: MUD
          For the period of the war, engines and the car as a whole should be with a minimum configuration without any sensors, ECU, EBS and extra devices, climate controls and other crap.

          They will float with the engine of the bolinder system and will drive old tires for fuel.
          The commander of my boat, midshipman Dear, told me about his first acquaintance with the Bolinder engine. This story happened to him even before the war, he had just joined the division as a green sailor, and was the object of all sorts of simple naval pranks. For example, he sharpened the paws of the anchors on the barge with a file and upset the bollards on the pier with a sledgehammer, ran around the base with an empty fire bucket in search of a mooring barrel from which he was supposed to pour half a bucket of deviation for coke, etc.

          One day Dear was awakened in the middle of the night and told to go to the barge to help start the engine. Suspecting another prank, Dorogoy carefully descended into the hold of the barge along the ladder and stopped in indecision on the floor slippery from fuel oil...
      2. TIR
        TIR 27 February 2023 12: 53
        +5
        I know it. But YaMZ 6-cylinder in-line (L6) is just a song. Even there is no oil vapor, let alone smudges. As they put new ones, it was only covered with dry dust under the hood. In terms of quality, YaMZ stepped forward very much
    3. FoBoss_VM
      FoBoss_VM 27 February 2023 07: 49
      +4
      A third of the components in YaMZ diesel engines are foreign-made. And without diesel fuel, a pile of metal
  2. Volunteer Marek
    Volunteer Marek 27 February 2023 07: 12
    +2
    I really hope that the quality and quantity will be sufficient. The main thing is not to plunder everything and not to chatter problems.
  3. Kuziming
    Kuziming 27 February 2023 07: 17
    +2
    Well, here is a rough model of our immediate future. The goals are clear, the tasks are defined. Here, in fact, are social elevators for the new elite.
    1. 75 Sergey
      75 Sergey 27 February 2023 07: 38
      +5
      Yes, there and so do not push through.
      There would be an elite of scientists, designers, academicians and professors, and only one harm from the "elite" of moneybags.
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 27 February 2023 08: 28
    +6
    When to the troops? Everything else is tinsel
  5. bairat
    bairat 27 February 2023 08: 35
    +1
    According to the widespread version of the myth, foreseeing his death, the phoenix carried out self-immolation, after which it reappeared from the ashes, dust.


    Well, I don't know, I would look for other names)
  6. Sergey Aleksandrovich
    Sergey Aleksandrovich 27 February 2023 09: 07
    +1
    Tractor for the 122 mm D-30 howitzer and the ancient 152 mm D-1. You can even put a small-caliber 30-mm automatic gun in the "Spoke" module.
  7. erased
    erased 27 February 2023 10: 57
    +5
    I wonder what the respected partners of the President of the Russian Federation should do, what kind of sanctions should be introduced so that EVERYTHING becomes domestic in the Russian Federation, from nails to machine tools and nanotechnologies?
    1. Arsen1
      Arsen1 27 February 2023 11: 16
      -1
      Yes, you can at least now completely import-substitute. at the level of technology of the 80s of the USSR
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 27 February 2023 13: 10
        +4
        Unfortunately, this is not possible either. For Russia is not the USSR and now is not the 80s.
  8. 23424636
    23424636 27 February 2023 11: 08
    +4
    games of combat vehicles worth 10 Urals must be completed. if they are manufacturers who managed to organize production, then arrange deliveries under an agreement with the Moscow Region .. but alas, in 9 years I have seen a similar machine close to the front once. There are no trucks at all. Why doesn’t Mishustin oblige the GAZ group to make Sadko cars, or the same Sabyaninov to raise the drawings and start production of the ZIL-1. at least in Yartsevo. Just sleepy chickens. Oises do not carry guns.
  9. Kirill Prozorovski
    Kirill Prozorovski 27 February 2023 11: 39
    +4
    Excuse me, what does replaced mean? They planned to purchase spare parts from enemies. For the army. Well, that's betrayal.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 27 February 2023 13: 13
      +2
      Well, the choice is not great.
      - either purchase from enemies and produce with them
      - or not to acquire and not to produce.

      If not produced, then again 2 options
      - buy ready-made from enemies
      - do not buy at all and have nothing.

      Choose.

      Excuse me, what does replaced mean?

      Replaced most likely means that they found an opportunity to buy what they need or analogues of what they need by a roundabout way.
    2. abc_alex
      abc_alex 28 February 2023 01: 08
      0
      Quote: Kirill Prozorovski
      Excuse me, what does replaced mean? They planned to purchase spare parts from enemies. For the army. Well, that's betrayal.


      No, the story is even more stupid.
      The Typhoon program did not provide for a two-axle version. All cars of the family, both from KAMAZ and from the Urals, are three-axle. But the KAMAZ people liked to pile up the military budget so much that they developed this option on their own initiative. The bottom line there was that on a certain "almost civilian" chassis they put a protected body designed as part of the Typhoon program with the money of the Moscow Region. But without state money for a full-fledged design, KAMAZ assembled a car from what it was, but it was - imports.
      Naturally, no matter how much they tried to enter the troops since 2014, they were given a lapel. In the army, and so in recent years, there was a bust with models of trucks and SUVs, and it was clear that we needed not another bright rattle, but mass production and unification.
      In order for the story to get the maximum PR effect, the craft was even given the craft a proper name "Typhoon". But there was no understanding. The Defense Ministry, as they said, was not needed, and continued to say so. He already has a good, reliable two-axle Ural. And on the way were "Tiger" and "Wolf".
      And then KAMAZ entered from the "sideway". I began to shove this car anywhere in the form of special cars. destination. Suddenly, they found understanding among the "special organizations" that developed the special. equipment for the army. Interest was also conditioned by the fact that the "Tiger" adopted for service after remotorization turned out to be somewhat cramped. But this car was bigger.
      But "shot" from the Airborne Forces. The paratroopers can hardly be blamed for promiscuity, after decades of neglect they sat with the equipment of the 60-70s. And they were glad to get "their car." The result was the Typhoon Airborne Forces. The name "Typhoon" was forgotten, and instead of "KAMAZ" the letter "K" appeared. True, this car had to be redone a lot.

      That is, if you notice, this machine was not created at all as part of the MO order. And now it is present in the troops in single copies in the form of special-purpose vehicles. And as far as I know, it has not been accepted into service (or equipment).
      1. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 28 February 2023 16: 21
        0
        Quote: abc_alex
        The Typhoon program did not provide for a two-axle version. All cars of the family, both from KAMAZ and from the Urals, are three-axle.

        Strange. But what about the two-axle one-volume Typhoon - Ural 63095?

        And so you forgot that the typhoon in general initially wanted to be stuffed into the RG, but the Patrol came in there - the price tag, fortunately, was many times less.
  10. valera75
    valera75 27 February 2023 17: 17
    +2
    Quote: alexmach
    Replaced most likely means that they found an opportunity to buy what they need or analogues of what they need by a roundabout way.

    I believe in this more than in the fact that they began to make imported components themselves. I will never forget how Siluanov, in my opinion, at the St. saying that we will do everything ourselves.
  11. Dormidontych
    Dormidontych 27 February 2023 22: 01
    0
    It is not entirely clear what import substitution is here. Some commentators generally suggest that they just simplified the car by stopping installing imported components ...
    1. abc_alex
      abc_alex 28 February 2023 01: 25
      0
      Quote: Dormidontych
      It is not entirely clear what import substitution is here. Some commentators generally suggest that they just simplified the car by stopping installing imported components ...

      :)
      If you simplify this car so that you just remove, and not replace all foreign components, you get a cart :)
      Engine - diesel Cummins 6ISBe 350 P-6
      Transmission - automatic Allison
      Tires - bulletproof tubeless Michelin 14.00 R20
      Timoney transfer case and axles
      Dutch independent hydropneumatic suspension
      Armchairs there and those English.

      At one time, there were rumors that KAMAZ made this car based on the KAMAZ-Sport models that drive Dakkara.