The British general called the Russian trump card, capable of instantly turning the tide of the special operation

Russia has a trump card with which it can turn the tide of the special operation. According to British General Richard Barrons, until today Moscow has not used it, apparently saving it for the spring offensive.

The Russian command has one trump card that can instantly change the situation on the battlefield, turning the course of the special operation in favor of Russia. We are talking about a massive air attack, the task of which will be to suppress the air defense of Ukraine. According to British intelligence, Russia has already concentrated a large number of aircraft, helicopters and drones, using about 40 airfields for this.

According to the general, Russia is preparing a massive air attack during the spring offensive, which may have already begun. Together with planes and helicopters, they will also attack drones-kamikaze to suppress the Ukrainian air defense system, which means turning the tide of the special operation.

Russia's trump card is its air force. Until now, during the special operation, they were practically not used. (...) It may be that when they get to the right stage in this offensive, we will see much more activity of their Air Force

- said Barrons in an interview with the British edition of the Daily Star.

Meanwhile, Kiev is preparing for its own offensive and is awaiting the delivery of heavy armored vehicles from Western sponsors. Ukraine cannot rely on aircraft, as it practically does not have them, so the stake will be placed on German Tanks and artillery. Well, also for a new mobilization. Until the end of March, Kyiv intends to put under arms at least 250 new military personnel.

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[voice of reason]

It is already approximately clear how events will develop. The Kyiv regime will go for broke. He is pushed to this by the Americans, who said that their resources are not infinite and public opinion, whose support is being lost in the States due to pre-election criticism of the Republicans and in Europe. yesterday, in front of the Russian embassy, ​​they installed a tank, allegedly shot down and captured in Ukraine, so the Germans threw off a yellow-black rag from it and spontaneously began to bring flowers in memory of the dead crew and children of Donbass. a multi-thousand anti-war rally was also held, against the supply of weapons to the former Ukraine.
Therefore, for a number of others, I think that in the near future, at the front, the enemy will begin a series of offensive operations. Moreover, they can be multi-vector. for example, a strike from the Kharkov region, with a simultaneous attack on Melitopol and, at the same time, a provocation on the border of Transnistria, followed by an operation to seize military depots in Kolbasnaya.
One thing is for sure, the spring-summer campaign will also take place in the maneuvering phase. The parties have prepared forces and means for this and are in need of it.
I hope that this time, the command has prepared operational mobile reserves and the enemy’s offensive will end with a cauldron according to the example of Debaltsevo or Ilovai.
it is obvious that reserves were prepared by both sides. now there is a war of nerves. On the part of the enemy, political leadership and overseas sponsors demand results. Although they want the regime to improve its negotiating positions and then they are going to freeze the conflict in the negotiations on the Korean scenario.
For our part, public opinion is putting pressure on the military leadership. Moreover, both the patriotic-minded, require victorious success in the NWO, and the skeptical, demand to show their military viability, which has been declared more than once before.
But here the one who starts first will lose. It will mark the direction of the main attack and allow the enemy to concentrate forces and use reserves more efficiently. In fact, if the Artemov epic is compared with the Stalingrad period, then something like the Kursk Bulge is ahead. And just as for the Third Reich, defeat in this exchange of offensive blows for the Kyiv regime could be fatal. For Russia, failure will only delay victory for some time and require additional resources.
One thing is for sure, the spring-summer period will also be in the maneuvering phase again.

[Luka Nord]

We are talking about a massive air attack, the task of which will be to suppress the air defense of Ukraine.

We are waiting for tanks and other things or provocations in Transnistria ..
Russia is very angry and will go to the end in the fight against the hegemony of the United States and other traitors .. There, satellites can blind, etc.
We take care of our soldiers, we have few real sons of the Fatherland, for many the soul has hardened from Western propaganda and other tolerance ..
And the GDP clearly set goals and objectives in its message .. We will fight to the death!
And the rest go through the forest to Israel and the rest of the USA .. shake for your loot and useless lives

[Orange Bigg]

I found interesting information. But how true is it?

Russian aviation is increasingly using air bombs in the NMD zone with the possibility of flight correction. The domestic analogue of the American JDAM, although created in rather artisanal conditions, performs its function with dignity. Aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces strike at enemy targets without entering the air defense coverage area. The telegram channel Fighterbomber writes about this.

. For four months now, bombers, fighters and long-range aircraft have been operating with guided weapons from distances inaccessible to enemy air defense. Only aviation of "musicians" goes purely for classic bombing with "uncontrolled cast iron"
- the author writes. The analogue of the American JDAM in the Russian version is called UMPC (unified set of planning and correction modules). The cost of domestic know-how, according to the source, does not exceed 2 million rubles, which is significantly cheaper than overseas ammunition. At the same time, the efficiency of FAB-500 with UMPC is very high.
It is used almost every day, many times a day, and not one bomb at a time.
– said the blogger.

https://topcor.ru/32399-stalo-izvestno-o-prakticheski-ezhednevnom-primenenii-rossijskih-planirujuschih-bomb-umpk.html

[Luka Nord]

Quote from Orange Bigg

I found interesting information. But how true is it?

Russian aviation is increasingly using air bombs in the NMD zone with the possibility of flight correction. The domestic analogue of the American JDAM, although created in rather artisanal conditions, performs its function with dignity. Aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces strike at enemy targets without entering the air defense coverage area. The telegram channel Fighterbomber writes about this.

Along the way, our Aerospace Forces will soon begin to massively use such tactics .. The soldiers need to be protected, and indeed effectively .. That's it, the West, NATO has declared war on us in fact and lethal weapons are already being pumped to the fullest ..
I think German tanks are waiting, etc. To cover everything and everyone at once, regardless of anything and no one!

[Greg Miller]

All the trumps available to Russia, the West, if necessary, can easily interrupt with its own - the venality of the ruling elite in Russia. We must not forget how they easily pushed through "goodwill gestures", "grain deals" and other "ammonia pipelines" ... which ended for us with leaving Kiev, a shameful retreat from Kharkov and leaving Kherson without a fight ...

[Shurik70]

The main thing is that powerful air defense systems are deployed in Ukraine.
A massive attack, of course, will crush them (a massive attack, many times greater than the capabilities of the defense, generally always wins, except in cases of incorrectly assessed defense). That's just the victims will be doxpena. And the attackers.
Ukraine will be given new air defense. Russia can only make new aircraft itself.
So, it seems, the Angles are trying to breed us for heavy losses.

[Alexey Sommer]

I totally agree.
Exactly the same I thought.

[Fedor M]

What victims are the attackers talking about? If you use missiles, drones and decoys???? And suppress the radar from distant lines

[Shurik70]

For every tactic there is a counter-tactic.
We crush them with drones and anti-radar missiles.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have long learned to turn on only a small part of the radars, surrounding them with powerful air defense. As a result, even in the event of a successful attack, a new radar is quickly installed to replace the destroyed one. And new radars are supplied to them.
So in the event of a massive strike, a significant part of the air defense will remain intact, since it will be hidden and not active.
And the British, by the way, just "advise" Russia to deliver one powerful blow instead of methodical extermination. And not so much drones as manned aircraft and helicopters.

[Neverhood]

Well, hidden and inactive air defense just allows you to make a strike. She won't let you make the next one without preparation, yes.

[NetKeys]

What is the causal relationship between Kharkiv, Kherson and grain deals?

[TIR]

We left those territories as a result of defeats, not gestures of goodwill. The country's leadership has completely failed in intelligence and analytics. We thought how we would enter with Crimea in 2014. Therefore, they went in columns. Anniversary today of the tragedy in Kharkov. Then the main forces did not enter the city. The delegation with bread and salt was probably expected. As a result, we have shelling. If we had Kharkov, then Donbass would have already been liberated. Even the conscience was not enough to remember the dead

[Al manah]

The domestic analogue of the American JDAM, although created in rather artisanal conditions

What, are they riveting on their knees in the garage?

[Kasym]

I didn't understand either. The KAB-500 family (guided aerial bomb; 4 types: with indices Kr, OD, L and S) was put into service in 1975. That is, in the days of the Union, and talking about "artisanal methods" is somehow incorrect. And there is also the KAB-250 family (KAB-250S-E, KAB-250L and KAB-250LG-E).
I already wrote that I do not see the use of the Russian Aerospace Forces. There are no bombardments of the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, no attacks on the approaching reserves, on roads, bridges, etc. Especially since new SVP-24 Gefes sighting systems have appeared that can accurately lay down AB. With him, CABs are not particularly needed.

[alexmach]

Moreover, new sighting systems SVP-24 Gefes have appeared, which can accurately lay down AB. With him, CABs are not particularly needed

Still as needed, and not just KABs, but planning bombs, so as not to enter the air defense coverage area.

[bayard]

Quote: Kasym

Moreover, new sighting systems SVP-24 Gefes have appeared, which can accurately lay down AB. With him, CABs are not particularly needed.

This is if in Syria on barmaley or in Africa, where there is neither air defense nor aviation. Bombing from a flight in / out is absolutely not an option, these are not colonial wars, for which the "Hephaestus" is intended.
KAB now is the very thing. But for mass use, pilots must master working with them. By spring I think they will be ready.
They will also appear in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but they need aviation, and she does not live near the LBS for a long time.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Al Manah

The domestic analogue of the American JDAM, although created in rather artisanal conditions

What, are they riveting on their knees in the garage?

Well, if the design bureau and workshops of the Bazalt SNPK are a garage, then yes, on their knees.

[Sarboz]

Quote from Orange Bigg

At the same time, the efficiency of FAB-500 with UMPC is very high.
It is used almost every day, many times a day, and not one bomb at a time.

FAB-500 with UMPK "Basalt" was presented at an exhibition in India in 2003, and then at MAKS-2009 in Russia. So this module is real and already fully developed.
Surprisingly, an ordinary aerial bomb turns into a kind of cruise missile. Depending on the configuration with control modules, the MPK ensures that targets are hit without entering the air defense zone from extremely low altitudes of 50-100 meters at a distance of 12 to 100 kilometers! This is serious ammo.

[Andy_nsk]

Depending on the configuration with control modules, the MPK ensures that targets are hit without entering the air defense zone from extremely low altitudes of 50-100 meters at a distance of 12 to 100 kilometers! This is serious ammo.

Do you think that with a bomb drop height of 100 m, she will be able to glide as far as 100 km? As far as I know from overseas bombs, in order for it to fly 100 km, the drop height should be about 10 km.

[alexmach]

Plus, ours are distinguished by the worst aerodynamic quality. But they brought a picture with the launch of planning bombs "from a hill." The plane goes at a very low altitude, then turns up the nose, gives maximum thrust and drops the bomb. At the same time, the aircraft does not gain much altitude, if it leaves behind the radio horizon, then not for a long time, and the bomb, having separated and spreading its wings, continues to climb by inertia itself, and, accordingly, it plans for a long distance (not 100 km of course) being launched from small height.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

from extremely low altitudes of 50-100 meters at a distance of 12 to 100 kilometers
I propose to look at the photo and performance characteristics of this bomb on Wikipedia and understand that it does not fly, but glides slightly. A bomb is not a missile. There is no talk of any 100 km, even if you drop it from a height of 10 km. Target correction for FAB-50kr by GOS, and for FAB-500s by Glonass satellites within hundreds of meters on the sides and with an accuracy of 4-7 meters hitting the target ..

[bayard]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Found interesting information.

Interesting information . And timely. Together with information about the appearance of Orion strike drones in commercial quantities, this is encouraging.

[Sevastiec]

It made you very angry. Do not project your feelings onto the majority in power: they live by other concepts.

[next322]

And what tasks did the GDP set? Are these your fantasies about standing to death?

[SARMAT123]

Hehe
The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information

[paul3390]

It is already approximately clear how events will develop. The Kyiv regime will go for broke.

If I were Banderlog, I would strike at Belgorod, for example. once proved the transcendent media perception of the world .. In addition - there are some doubts that we have on the border - there are still forces sufficient to repel such an attack .. Unlike other areas.

Yes - they will undoubtedly be kicked out of there quickly enough, but what will be the damage in all areas?

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: paul3390

It is already approximately clear how events will develop. The Kyiv regime will go for broke.

If I were Banderlog, I would strike at Belgorod, for example. once proved the transcendent media perception of the world .. In addition - there are some doubts that we have on the border - there are still forces sufficient to repel such an attack .. Unlike other areas.

Yes - they will undoubtedly be kicked out of there quickly enough, but what will be the damage in all areas?

Under no circumstances should this be allowed.

[Dmitry_Semashko]

Occupy Belgorod??? Don't laugh. In this case, ours will simply hit Kyiv with nuclear weapons. And if Putin does not have enough determination once again, he will simply be swept away. The mood is already there.

[Al manah]

if Putin does not have enough determination once again, he will simply be swept away.

Only if their combat sofas start up normally, and they don’t get stuck in traffic jams.

[paul3390]

In this case, ours will simply hit Kyiv with nuclear weapons.

And why do you think that such an opportunity is a stopping factor for the Ukroführer and the West??? Yes, about such a gift - they can only dream of!

In addition, our adored guarantor has repeatedly proved that he has a thin gut for something really serious .. Therefore, no one pays attention to him.

[Mikhail Maslov]

Banderlogs have said more than once about Belgorod. Here is the danger of this direction. A large gray zone, a well-explored area, the possibility of a quick retreat to Kharkov and we have a so-called bypass section, which slows down the transfer of reserves. But from a military point of view, capture or attempted capture not advisable. Again, a gray zone, the need for significant forces on a narrow section of the front. Overcoming a defense line with more than one fortification. A dubious success, but a lot of forces will be put in.

[Incvizitor]

This is how they think here, and the majority of the pissing rags on the network are sure that strikes on the ukroreich are the beginning of a nuclear war. Of course, they cannot answer the question of how there can be a nuclear war with a ruin that has no Yao.

[MBRSS]

And if Putin lacks determination once again...

will not be enough. How there was not enough determination to withdraw from the nuclear test ban treaty in the atmosphere. Or hit bridges. Or turn off the oil and gas tap to the West ...
It is written in our doctrine that we can be the first to use nuclear weapons if "there is a threat to the existence of the state itself." Occupation by the enemy, for example, of a suburb of Belgorod is clearly not the case. And in general it is not clear where the very threat to existence is located. At the walls of the Kremlin or the mountains of the Urals?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Dmitry_Semashko

And if Putin does not have enough determination once again, he will simply be swept away. The mood is already there.

Moods wander different .. But the fact that the people got angry is a fact. Angry at the lethargy and impotence of the Russian elite. Yes, and for those who were responsible for the construction of the Russian Army. The people are very angry .. Biathlons. temples, taking a toy Reichstag and other similar crap .. Including the residence of all sorts of untouchable children in the Emirates, Saudi Arabia. We don't understand all this!

[Vostok35]

The film Liquidation reminded me of you.

[Veter5757]

They won't do it. There is a more pragmatic option: an offensive to the east from Kupyansk, approximately, in order to reach the launch range of Khaimars along the M-4 highway and / or the Moscow-Rostov-on-Don railway. In addition to the moral noise, this will seriously hit our logistics in the South of Russia, both militarily and civilly, and passenger traffic is going to hell, which is in the conditions of closed southern airports ....
IMHO the battle for Kupyansk - Svatovo is not a joke for this very reason.

[Sarboz]

Quote from Veter5757

There is a more pragmatic option: an offensive to the east from Kupyansk, approximately, in order to reach the launch range of Khaimars along the M-4 highway and / or the Moscow-Rostov-on-Don railway.

Well, you waved it! Well, how far from Kupyansk do they need to plow in order to hit the M-4 with Khaimars? To our Rossosh in the Voronezh region, if only. More than two hundred kilometers along the highway across our border. Well, let them try to make such a march. I think their columns will rest in the first kilometers near Kupyansk.

[Sarboz]

Quote: paul3390

In addition - there are some doubts that we have on the border - there are still forces sufficient to repel such an attack ..

Already a million times "true", that is, not "Hurrah-patriots" have been crying here, why the huge Russian army is not being sent to the fronts of the NVO, then mobilization would not have been required. And everything is simple, the General Staff has in no way exposed the defense of the country anywhere, since the enemy is probing us from all sides. The defense of the Belgorod region was thoroughly strengthened over the year.

[Grits]

Quote: Sarboz

Already a million times "true", that is, not "Hurrah-patriots" have been crying here, why the huge Russian army is not being sent to the fronts of the NVO, then mobilization would not have been required. And everything is simple, the General Staff has in no way exposed the defense of the country anywhere, since the enemy is probing us from all sides.

Everything is much more prosaic - there is no huge Russian army. It exists only on paper, but in reality it turned out that there was no one to fight. Do you really consider those 18-year-old boys who serve no more than a year and have not yet learned how to wash themselves as an army?

[Victor Leningradets]

The capture of Mozyr or Brest is much more useful. With the proclamation of "Free Belarus" in the occupied territory and the raising of the BCHB flag.
I hope that the concentration of forces by the enemy will be noticed and parried in time.

[your1970]

Quote: Victor Leningradets

The capture of Mozyr or Brest is much more useful.

war on two fronts? With the prospect of war along the Ukrainian-Polish border?
This is a pitchfork to stick in your side, even if Lukashenka cannot go deep into the country 404, but will simply peel along the border.

[sgrabik]

Only one thing is clear that the enemy will go for broke and go on the offensive with all his might, they simply have no other options anymore, so you need to be fully prepared for the dill blitzkrieg and foresee all possible scenarios in advance so as not to be taken by surprise like that , as it happened in the Kharkiv region, you need to learn from your mistakes and never repeat them again.

[saigon]

Excuse me, it’s not at all clear that the enemy will go in front, well, it’s not a fact that there will be an offensive by the VFU.
Blitzkrieg still needs to be organized and not about the Kharkov successes of the enemy.
The smallness of the density of troops was raised, I hope that the heroes of the drape ones were brought to their senses a little.
There were no mistakes in the Kharkov region; it simply clearly shows what happens when military science is neglected.
Fighting with a density of two fighters per triangular kilometer does not work.

[vikie1778]

dill got stuck on the northern Luhansk front for more than 5 months and managed ... to lose territory and the entire bridgehead behind the right bank of the Zerebets River. Surovik's meat-grinding operations have served well, nullifying much of Ukraine's offensive potential.

a similar scenario is likely, when Western curators give the go-ahead for an attack towards Melitopol, they will get bogged down after achieving initial successes, since our command will use the same tactics as in the defense of Swatava
>1 retreat from the first line of defense
>bombard our old positions
>Send motorized rifle brigades to crush resistance and capture lost territories.

[Grits]

Quote from vikie1778

Surovik's meat-grinding operations have served well, nullifying much of Ukraine's offensive potential.

These heroic Surovik operations in the Kherson region are especially noticeable.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: voice of reason

voice of reason
Today, 11: 37

How can you write such a long and meaningful comment in one minute?

[Pilot]

Well so the professional, work such. All the time in the forefront, the vest is torn in the trenches ... commissar from the bunker and not khukhry-muhry

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Ingvar 72

How can you write such a long and meaningful comment in one minute?

The same flashed.
The comment seemed to have been ready before the publication of the material.

PS And I'll add a little about the degradation of the site.
Already the desire to once again go to the site disappears.
I won’t give a link yet, but it turned out that some of the comments that are not beneficial to someone stupidly and carelessly bully when the number of comments in the preview is more than an order of magnitude greater than the number of comments available for reading.
This is a bad sign.
A sign that the site will soon cease to exist.
All normal people will leave such a resource.

PS I'm making a screenshot and I'm almost sure that in a day this post of mine will not be on the site.
Quietly will not. No comments, no ban for any violation.
Just because some people don't like it.

Throw pluses those who have similar sensations.
Perhaps something will be able to change for the better.

[Vladislav_2]

there only one Reznikov from the tank asked for directions to the pre-trial detention center in Moscow

[usm5]

Thank you for your comment. We don't have many truly wise people. I will try to complete you. For a mobile war, Russia clearly lacks the size of a combat-ready army and there are no visible attempts to build it up (carry out another mobilization). There are three explanations, in my opinion. Version number 1. The NWO was conceived as a joint operation with China and implies the presence of its extensive military-technical assistance, followed by joint economic development of the liberated territories. If so, then the planned visit of the Chinese leader will be followed by the supply of Chinese weapons, uniforms and a second wave of mobilization.
Version number 2. Russia has exhausted its resources and is planning a "negotiation". Then some demonstrative tactical victories are possible to improve the negotiating position, where the US and China will act as guarantors, respectively. An important sign of the implementation of this scenario will be a drastic cleansing of the media space. All "patriots" like Strelkov will be neutralized in one way or another in order to properly process the public consciousness. Version number 3. NWO is a screen for preparing the country for a thermonuclear war, the purpose of which is to inflict a strategic defeat on the United States and its allies. Let me remind you that the GDP let slip before the start of the NMD that the issue should be "resolved" now, while there is an advantage in strategic weapons. It is clear that resolving the issue in this way will solve the problem of Russia's safe development for a long time and in a cardinal way. If this option is accepted, then there will be no more mobilization. For such a war, it is not so much the number that is important, but the training of the troops. Russia will deliberately be on the defensive, expressing ridiculous "concern" and demonstratively foolishly fighting in Ukraine until a fatal blow is prepared. And this strike will begin with the mass destruction of the NATO satellite constellation.

[Denis812]

Version number 3. NWO is a screen for preparing the country for a thermonuclear war, the purpose of which is to inflict a strategic defeat on the United States and its allies. Let me remind you that the GDP let slip before the start of the NMD that the issue should be "resolved" now, while there is an advantage in strategic weapons. It is clear that resolving the issue in this way will solve the problem of Russia's safe development for a long time and in a cardinal way.

Yes, we will develop for a long time and safely. And the United States will definitely not be afraid of us. The main questions will be where to sharpen the spear and how to defend against wolves :)
Exactly the same story will be in the US and Europe and other countries.
Maslow's pyramid will shrink to the first level in general :)

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from usm5

Version number 3. NWO is a screen for preparing the country for a thermonuclear war, the purpose of which is to inflict a strategic defeat on the United States and its allies. Let me remind you that the GDP let slip before the start of the NMD that the issue should be "resolved" now, while there is an advantage in strategic weapons. It is clear that resolving the issue in this way will solve the problem of Russia's safe development for a long time and in a cardinal way. If this option is accepted, then there will be no more mobilization. For such a war, it is not so much the number that is important, but the training of the troops. Russia will deliberately be on the defensive, expressing ridiculous "concern" and demonstratively foolishly fighting in Ukraine until a fatal blow is prepared. And this strike will begin with the mass destruction of the NATO satellite constellation.

Let me add a video for some reassurance:

Respectfully.

[Neverhood]

Option number 4.
They wanted a quick victory, counting on the 5th column in Ukraine. It didn't work out.
Now it looks more like dragging out time, with the expectation of growing discontent among the population and the military burden on the economy of Western "partners".
Ours are clearly dragging out the conflict, hence the MRAU, which do not completely disable the infrastructure and the non-use of daggers by the higher military and political authorities.

[Veter5757]

You are right, but Ukraine has a trump card: shorter internal communications will ensure a quick (in comparison with the RF Armed Forces) transfer of reserves to threatened areas. In order to prevent this, it is necessary to beat the Ukrainian ahead of time. transport infrastructure, but we have done almost nothing in this direction for a year

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from Veter5757

but we have done almost nothing in this direction for a year

They didn't because they didn't want to.

[Grits]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

They didn't because they didn't want to.

Yes, they couldn't

[Berkut752]

Looking at this Tu, I recalled the altered poems of V. Ya. Bryusov:
A young white man with a burning look ..............

[DefenderofTruth]

We are talking about a massive air attack, the task of which will be to suppress the air defense of Ukraine.

If the Russian Aerospace Forces did not conduct such an air operation throughout 2022, then the Russian Federation does not have such an opportunity.

Moreover, the supply of new air defense systems from the west to Ukraine by the Russian troops by the offensive from Belarus to Moldova has not yet been blocked - they will bring more air defense systems through the open western border of Ukraine - it's like carrying water in a sieve.

[voice of reason]

Here! first time I liked your comment. For the West, supplying weapons to Ukraine in small batches is like carrying water in a sieve. It seems that something is given and done, but everything disappears imperceptibly and rapidly!

[paul3390]

It means that the Russian Federation does not have such an opportunity.

There is undoubtedly a possibility, but with focal air defense not suppressed, there will undoubtedly be tangible losses as well .. And so far, it seems that our leadership is not ready to exchange the success of an offensive operation for, say, 100-150 aircraft. For non-current aviation is an extremely expensive thing, and it will take a very long time to make up for such damage. Against the background of the fact that it is not very clear what to expect from expensive Western partners, apparently such a price is still considered unacceptable ..

[Tusv]

Quote from DefenderofTrut

If the Russian Aerospace Forces did not conduct such an air operation throughout 2022, then the Russian Federation does not have such an opportunity.

Throughout 2022, the outskirts had very powerful air defense systems. Which We knock out after the attack on the Crimean bridge and such opportunities still appear

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from DefenderofTruth

If the Russian Aerospace Forces did not conduct such an air operation throughout 2022, then the Russian Federation does not have such an opportunity.

Or there is no permission for it from someone.

[Human_manoid]

Most of all in Russia, the generals are afraid of the final victory of Russia in this operation.
So long ago it would have been possible to send Petrov and Bashirov to "derail" all NATO assistance and block Russian raw materials for ukrov.
It is possible to bomb Kyiv with air strikes as soon as in 41.
But then they will immediately start looking for and punishing all Russian thieves, traitors and oligarchs who are squeezing out foreign business and earning their billions on it, substituting our soldiers as cannon fodder.

[voice of reason]

Sorry, your thesis is not very clear. Who will begin to find and punish Russian thieves, traitors and oligarchs? I mean, for example, thieves, did they steal something in Russia? so they will be found and punished by the Russian government for this, in the sense of stealing? or vice versa the global west? so isn't it beneficial for the West that they steal from Russia? it seems like orders should then be given to them for this? and now I would like to understand about the traitors. These traitors betrayed whom? if Russia and the Russian government or the people find them and punish them, then it seems to be good * and if the West finds them and punishes them, is that also not bad? and if it was stolen in the west, then why should we find them and punish them? And now, about squeezing out foreign business, is it sort of like nationalization by the hands of private individuals? like this is a positive phenomenon since the company is foreign? or still not? whatever one may say in your forecast, some one solid positive is obtained.

[Human_manoid]

Specific examples with the oil industry - "Lukoil" daughter, an oil refinery makes deliveries to Ukraine.
The next example on a global scale - analyze our oil and gas complex - and you will immediately understand that the declared discounts are deposited with affiliated structures in India.
And if we start talking about India, then how the sale of weapons by India has grown more than 10 times. I note that exports to India come mainly from Russia.
The media immediately stop such statements, but even in the Duma, there are patriots talking about the impoverishment of the people. In response, the government modestly shuffles its foot, complaining about the lack of funding for inspections.

[voice of reason]

So what is your daughter's name? Oksana there or Galya or what? then let's go globally. Who declares discounts, I did not understand something. And how technically do they end up with affiliates in India if the discount is a discount? how can the discount settle? give it? means there is no dengue and there is nothing to settle. don't give it? so it means too, it turns out there is nothing to settle. If there is no discount. And it is very interesting what kind of arms sales is this? like they refused to purchase helicopters. Contract broken? maybe we are selling something else? for example? is there any information? By the way, what kind of secret patriots are they talking about the impoverishment of the people, and even in the Duma eating on the deputy salary. From any party, at least give me a hint! or these as their independent candidates? and that the government is really complaining that there is no money for checks? right Mishustin himself or some other patriot? I understood you correctly, the government wants to carry out some kind of check, well, either at discounts on oil or on arms sales, but they don’t give money. By the way, who doesn't give = the government doesn't distribute the budget itself? do not allocate themselves? full of riddles!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

You should not break into a cake trying to protect what cannot be defended.
Well, except that, sorry if they pay for the deflection.

[Strannik96]

What detailed information! what dump did you find it in?

[opposite28]

Russia's trump card is its air force. Until now, during the special operation, they were practically not used. (...) It may be that when they get to the right stage in this offensive, we will see much more activity of their Air Force

- said Barrons in an interview with the British edition of the Daily Star.

The revanchist sentiments of the British generals ended in the port of Dunkirk...

[Al manah]

This is clearly seen from Churchill's Fulton speech, right?

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: oppozite28

Russia's trump card is its air force. Until now, during the special operation, they were practically not used. (...) It may be that when they get to the right stage in this offensive, we will see much more activity of their Air Force

- said Barrons in an interview with the British edition of the Daily Star.

The revanchist sentiments of the British generals ended in the port of Dunkirk...

They have not gone anywhere with these moods among the impudent Saxons for three hundred years, if not more.

[rocket757]

The British general called the Russian trump card, capable of instantly turning the tide of the special operation

. Quite a reasonable version, has the right to be.

[Terenin]

Quote: rocket757

The British general called the Russian trump card, capable of instantly turning the tide of the special operation

. Quite a reasonable version, has the right to be.

As the year of the NWO has shown, nothing can be changed instantly.
Welcome

[rocket757]

Hi
It happens that some things do SUDDENLY.
There is another method, systematically, consistently carry out the necessary actions, which ultimately lead to the desired result.
How can it be done, and whether they will do it at all .... I don’t know, but you can’t guess.

[Alexey Sommer]

The proposal of the British general is an invitation to the Russian Aerospace Forces to commit suicide.
Do you need to chew it, or will you start thinking at least a little bit yourself?

[rocket757]

Such a version ... there is a wall in front, it is strong and does not necessarily beat its forehead against the wall in order to refute it.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: rocket757

The British general called the Russian trump card, capable of instantly turning the tide of the special operation
. Quite a reasonable version, has the right to be.

Nothing can be broken when there is no desire.
Whether there is such a thing is a big question.

[parusnik]

According to British intelligence, Russia has already concentrated a large number of aircraft, helicopters and drones near the Ukrainian border, using about 40 airfields for this.

And exactly according to British intelligence? Here are exactly the same data, the Ukrainian representative voiced, by the way, this was published in the News, on VO.

[Marcel12345]

Russia's trump card would be mass deployment of KAB 1500 thermobaric missiles, along with FOAB bombs. However, it is not happening yet, why haven't the Russians dropped any FOAB bomb or KAB 1500 yet?

[_Ugene_]

because they don’t want to wipe entire cities off the face of the earth, they don’t want only ruins to remain in the place of Ukraine

[Marcel12345]

the ruins are already in ukraine anyway. Without this strategy, they will not win, and if they do, then only at the cost of heavy losses.

[Alex Nevs]

Everybody there! ours. Everything. And these only think with NATO brains - cover everything with carpets and quietly enter. But it wasn't here.

[Strannik96]

This cannot be explained to them.
The text of your comment is too short and

[cmax]

Quote from Marcel12345

Russia's trump card would be mass deployment of KAB 1500 thermobaric missiles, along with FOAB bombs. However, it is not happening yet, why haven't the Russians dropped any FOAB bomb or KAB 1500 yet?

Generals need to know!

[Alexey Sommer]

The best commentary on the topic, albeit in English.
The answers of people to you below are the answers of people who are not able to think independently and critically.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from Marcel12345

However, this is not happening yet, why have the Russians still not dropped either FOAB or KAB 1500 bombs?

Because in these cities, strange as it may seem to you, our blood brothers and sisters live. cousins, cousins, aunts, uncles, their children and grandchildren with great-grandchildren .. . In essence, there is a civil war of Russians with deceived reptilians (Soros, Rothschilds and their followers) Russians. This is the main obstacle for the cities and villages in Svidomo Ukraine, massively bombed, in the American way. Personally, I would not want to kill my cousin's son in battle ... or cousin ..

[Marcel12345]

I agree, but what prevents throwing these rockets at the UA armed forces outside the cities?

In addition, FOAB and KAB1500 bombs could force Ukraine to peace, which would save many times more lives.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote from Marcel12345

However, this is not happening yet, why have the Russians still not dropped either FOAB or KAB 1500 bombs?

Because in these cities, strange as it may seem to you, our blood brothers and sisters live. cousins, cousins, aunts, uncles, their children and grandchildren with great-grandchildren .. . In essence, there is a civil war of Russians with deceived reptilians (Soros, Rothschilds and their followers) Russians. This is the main obstacle for the cities and villages in Svidomo Ukraine, massively bombed, in the American way. Personally, I would not want to kill my cousin's son in battle ... or cousin ..

Are our blood brothers in Galicia too?
And who said that these bombs are proposed to be dropped on residential areas?
But railway nodes, bridges, concentrations of troops, etc., this is the very thing.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Ulan.1812

Quote: 30 vis

Quote from Marcel12345

However, this is not happening yet, why have the Russians still not dropped either FOAB or KAB 1500 bombs?

Because in these cities, strange as it may seem to you, our blood brothers and sisters live. cousins, cousins, aunts, uncles, their children and grandchildren with great-grandchildren .. . In essence, there is a civil war of Russians with deceived reptilians (Soros, Rothschilds and their followers) Russians. This is the main obstacle for the cities and villages in Svidomo Ukraine, massively bombed, in the American way. Personally, I would not want to kill my cousin's son in battle ... or cousin ..

Are our blood brothers in Galicia too?
And who said that these bombs are proposed to be dropped on residential areas?
But railway nodes, bridges, concentrations of troops, etc., this is the very thing.

The advice was to wipe out cities and villages from the face of the earth ... And you need to destroy ---- Zhel. bridges, transport hubs, the military-political elite, the Verkhovna Rada, the General Staff, all sorts of bunkers, along with Zeley and his rat gop company, arsenals, military factories, power plants, tunnels, relocation points for a wide gauge .. everything had to be destroyed. Why didn't they destroy it? ..... The question is not for me .. The question is for the Minister of Defense, Gen. headquarters and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief .. RF. And there would be no such crazy victims ... Only Vsuk with various ter, nat, and other guards killed more than 250 thousand people, plus our fighters, plus civilians ...

[smok1961]

Na "zmasowany atak" lotnictwa rosyjskiego Ukraina odpowie "zmasowanym" wystrzeleniem rakiet przeciwlotniczych i tak się skończy rosyjskie "hura!!!".

Rosja ma dwa atuty:

1. Rosjanie nie pytają ilu żołnierzy rosyjskich zginęło na Ukraine i dowództwo może stosować taktykę spod Verdun...
2. Gdyby Rosjanie otrzymali zgodę Chin, mogliby użyć jakiejś niewielkiej bomby atomowej.

[_Ugene_]

well what nonsense? what atomic bomb? we do not have the task of destroying as many civilians as possible, but it will be so with nuclear weapons

[Alexey Sommer]

It is surprising that foreigners think more sensibly and independently.
In 2014, NATO shouted at us - just don’t attack Ukraine, we will ask you for it.
Now they say, we then deceived you in order to gain time.
Now they are screaming, just don't use nuclear weapons!
I'm sure they're fooling us again, no nuclear war will start even if we incinerate all NATO countries except those with nuclear weapons
Their tactics, both in 2014 and now, according to our non-use of nuclear weapons in cards, are called BLEF.
Scammer tactics.
PS if in March 2022 they demolished let's say Lvov and Krakow TNW
And Mariupol would have been intact and the war would have ended like a year already, with the victory of Russia.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

if in March 2022 they demolished let's say Lvov and Krakow TNW
And Mariupol would have been intact and the war would have ended like a year already, with the victory of Russia.

Agree completely..

[_Ugene_]

if in March 2022 they demolished let's say Lvov and Krakow TNW

Well, what kind of nonsense, do you even understand what you are talking about, what kind of nuclear weapons in peaceful cities?

[Neverhood]

1) demolishing Lvov is not tactical nuclear weapons. These are strategic ammunition. The division is very conditional, but tactical nuclear weapons definitely do not demolish large cities.
2) Krakow? So this is NATO. Would have received the repatriation of Konigsberg with conventional weapons and a retaliatory nuclear strike

[Denis812]

1. I live in Krakow and I didn’t see anything, so that someone on TVP1 or somewhere else would ask how many wonderful Polish children have already died there. And in the Russian Federation, they already know who died. I know very well about my native village near St. Petersburg who was sent, who returned, and who serves. And this is me, living far away.
2. The Russian Federation does not need the approval of China or some other country to strike nuclear weapons. This is the difference between Russia and the limitrophes, who are ready to do anything for scratching their overlord behind the ear.
By the way, unlike many others, I do not classify Poland as a limitroph. Balts - yes. Those more mutts. And Poland is doing what is beneficial to it, very skillfully playing on the interests of the US and the EU.

[coinsam]

To wy bzdury z polskich gazet opowiadacie o "taktyce Verdun" i że "Rosja czeka na to, że Chiny jej pozwolą". Ani pierwszy, ani drugi nie są poprawne.

[_Ugene_]

If it were so, then this trump card would have been laid out long ago. Apparently, it is not possible to completely suppress air defense and there are very large losses, otherwise how else can you explain that this trump card has not been used for a year already?

[Neverhood]

The absence of a task.
The inadmissibility of losses in aviation while there is a possibility of a collision with NATO.

[Div Divich]

Enemy advice is most often a trap!

What is the point of driving aircraft to air defense brought from Europe?
It is better to continue to destroy objects and air defense with missiles with drones, it is cheaper and more efficient.

By creating a gap in the enemy front in Artemovsk/Bakhmut, it will be possible to build up the offensive. Until the complete liberation of the DPR.

[dauria]

It is better to continue to destroy objects and air defense with missiles with drones, it is cheaper and more efficient.

Can you count? Two links of the Su-25 are 8 pieces of aircraft multiplied by 8 corrected KAB-500 land mines. 64 pieces. If you put them at intervals of 15 meters, then you can level a small village into rubble. (for such an area purpose, you can get by with simple penny cast irons FAB -500)
Now calculate the cost of 64 Iskanders or 128 Calibers
Aren't you afraid that they will bring you a pension in candy wrappers with such rocket expenses?

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: dauria

It is better to continue to destroy objects and air defense with missiles with drones, it is cheaper and more efficient.

Can you count? Two links of the Su-25 are 8 pieces of aircraft multiplied by 8 corrected KAB-500 land mines. 64 pieces. If you put them at intervals of 15 meters, then you can level a small village into rubble. (for such an area purpose, you can get by with simple penny cast irons FAB -500)
Now calculate the cost of 64 Iskanders or 128 Calibers
Aren't you afraid that they will bring you a pension in candy wrappers with such rocket expenses?

Nice to read an expert's opinion.
I also think it's possible. There is no political solution.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

The blow must be delivered, including the SB, and it must be crushing.

[Ulan.1812]

Well guess what, time will tell.
Sitting on the defensive, wars are not won, and if there is such a goal and there will be an offensive, otherwise why accumulate forces and means, then you can’t do without a massive air strike.

[azkolt]

Quote from Luka Nord

We are talking about a massive air attack, the task of which will be to suppress the air defense of Ukraine.

..
And the GDP clearly set goals and objectives in its message .. We will fight to the death!

Can you elaborate on these GOALS AND OBJECTIVES? I'm probably stupid, but besides everything is fine, the beautiful marquise, I didn't see anything else there!

[Alex Nevs]

Me. May I tell you? Do you accurately paint or is it enough so, superficially? On paper or orally?

[seamen2]

*Can you elaborate on these GOALS AND OBJECTIVES? I'm probably stupid, but besides everything is fine, the beautiful marquise, I didn't see anything else there!*
and you won't see. this character has all the posts like a carbon copy. like his idol.

[Strannik96]

That's probably how you talk about yourself

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: azkolt

Quote from Luka Nord

We are talking about a massive air attack, the task of which will be to suppress the air defense of Ukraine.

..
And the GDP clearly set goals and objectives in its message .. We will fight to the death!

Can you elaborate on these GOALS AND OBJECTIVES? I'm probably stupid, but besides everything is fine, the beautiful marquise, I didn't see anything else there!

Maybe you're asking the wrong question?
You need to ask those who develop and set these goals and objectives.
But they won't tell us.

[Boris Ivanov]

Well what the hell?? The British general knows about our trump card .. but our generals do not?

[Grits]

Quote: Boris Ivanov

Well what the hell?? The British general knows about our trump card .. but our generals do not?

So everyone knows about this trump card for a long time. Not only VO readers, but all the grandmothers at the entrance and the children at school. Only the Commander-in-Chief and the General Staff do not know.

[JonnyT]

Yeah, of course, just in the context of discussing the supply of f-16s and other NATO equipment.

This general is also unaware that infantry and equipment are also used with a gulkin's nose.
These Satanists and their servants will face such a crushing blow that they will be remembered for more than 1000 years.

[opuonmed]

They hit the air defense of the Ukrainians, they want to test it

[1razvgod]

Before that, they didn’t suppress air defense, why would this happen now? Massive use of aviation will not work, losses will increase significantly, taking into account the meager production of new aircraft, they will not do this. Without adjustable air bombs that can be used without entering the air defense zone, there is no point in a massive attack. There are no prerequisites .... The opinion of the NATO talker can not be taken into account, the realities of the war are different, well, maybe for lovers of hats a new firs for exclamations ...

[Konnick]

Massive use of aviation will not work, losses will increase significantly,

You are wrong. During the war years, British scientists (without sarcasm) suggested that the British Air Force bombard Germany with as many aircraft as possible at a time, and not in waves, but in one raid, placing bombers in several echelons to reduce losses from anti-aircraft fire. The pilots were indignant, saying that there would be losses from their own bombs, but they followed the recommendations and ... losses decreased significantly. Let me explain with an example - there is a warehouse guarded by 10 anti-aircraft guns and there are 10 bombers. When will there be fewer losses during the destruction of the warehouse, when to send one plane at a time to bomb or send ten at once?

[sir Garry]

What about strategic bombers? Will NATO air defense reach them?

[Bingo]

Of course, it would be beneficial for them - any massive air attack is a loss. and they are not quickly replenished. It is best that Russia itself put the VKS in attacks, where the air defense of suckers will work in the ideal mode for them - from ambushes, and the detection will be assigned to AWACS in Poland, over the Black Sea and in Lithuania!
They will put the Aerospace Forces, front-line aviation will fly as it did - their enemy is MANPADS, but on battered fighters and bombers - they will immediately begin deliveries of suddenly "found F-16s, along with" quickly trained "crews from Iraq.
But to hell with you - how they gouged with missiles, so we will - here the AWACS does not dance, you have to turn on the radars on the ground - and they are knocked out. But because they are beaten out - that's arrogant and fidgeting with idiotic proposals

[solar]

The Russian command has one trump card that can instantly change the situation on the battlefield, turning the course of the special operation in favor of Russia. We are talking about a massive air attack, the task of which will be to suppress the air defense of Ukraine.

If there really is such a trump card, then the one who does not use it for a year already with consequences in the form of large losses is just right to put up against the wall for sabotage.

[1razvgod]

There is no trump card, and there is no sabotage, banal hand-to-hand ....

[ivan2022]

If there are trump cards, but they are not applied, this is already an article about discrediting. Let's assume we don't have...

Or maybe it is?
And then let the enemy in impotent rage not try to discredit us.

[blackGRAIL]

In fact, the world knows practically no successful examples of air defense suppression operations. Of the most famous successful: the Persian Gulf War and the Lebanese War. Well, the 2nd Karabakh war is an example of the next generation of SEAD.

Already in Yugoslavia, the NATO air defense suppression operation actually failed: 743 HARMs were fired during the 78-day campaign, but only 3 out of 25 SA-6 batteries were confirmed destroyed. At the same time, Yugoslav forces fired more than 800 SAMs at NATO aircraft, including 477 SA-6s and 124 MANPADS, resulting in only two aircraft being shot down and several more damaged. The capitulation of Yugoslavia was caused by the desire to save the economy and infrastructure of the country from destruction (in which the leadership of the UG is completely indifferent).

The subsequent actions of Western aviation in the world for the most part ignored (or did not separately concentrate on it) the task of suppressing air defense, because. were carried out in the face of ever-increasing superiority in the means of high-precision long-range target destruction (without entering the air defense zone).

[solar]

How did it fail if

as a result of which only two aircraft were shot down

for several tens of thousands of sorties?
Suppression of air defense is not the destruction of the largest possible number of enemy air defense systems, but ensuring the safety of the actions of one's Air Force.
Of course, with such a balance of power that was in Yugoslavia, the result was predictable, but it is wrong to write that the operation failed.

[blackGRAIL]

The fact of the matter is that the NATO Air Force was mainly involved in the confrontation with the air defense of Yugoslavia, and not in performing other tasks. As a result, the Yugoslav Armed Forces as a whole did not suffer significant damage, and air defense in particular. Another thing is that NATO attacked civilian and transport infrastructure (terror and destruction of the country) in order to achieve the fulfillment of its requirements, and the operation itself was successful in this sense.

[Serge9901]

The Kremenchug Oil Refinery was transferred to the zone of responsibility of the Armed Forces, supplies the army of the enemy with fuel and lubricants. Works in two shifts. The factory lights and torches are visible for miles. The question is - who benefits from it in the Kremlin if bombing the refinery is a matter of hours and extinguishing it is very, very difficult? Surnames - in the studio. No - announce the next mobilization among the sons-in-law of the Shoigu and the sons of the lady.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

Quote: voice of reason

in the near future, the enemy will launch a series of offensive operations at the front. Moreover, they can be multi-vector. for example, a strike from the Kharkov region, with a simultaneous attack on Melitopol and, at the same time, a provocation on the border of Transnistria, followed by an operation to seize military depots in Kolbasnaya.

This is the writing of the English newspapers on Saturday morning.
What multi-vector attacks can a Ukrainian execute? Since the autumn they have not been able to take Kremennaya, although there was every chance for this at that time. They were stopped by Bars - men who are over forty years old. Now, not like Ukraine, we cannot launch a full-fledged offensive. The promised tanks will be given no one knows when, and even if they were given by everyone today, then this would not solve the tasks that are set for the enemy in the West. All this chatter about taking some areas is bred by the British, who are completely out of touch with reality. They are left without vegetables and fruits in their country, there are empty shelves now in stores. And all because, just like in the war, they forgot to think about the consequences of leaving the EU and the consequences of their own sanctions against them.
The only option for a counteroffensive at the Khokhol is possible only on Tokmak with development on Melitopol. Today it was officially announced by the GUR of Ukraine. But, the chances of realizing it are close to zero. A more probable option is that, having finally broken the defense in Marinka, we will go to the rear of the Ugledar grouping and at this point all plans for the offensive for the Ukrainian will remain on paper. The fall of Vuhledar will be the forerunner of the capture of the fortified Gulyai-Polye with the subsequent exit to Zaporozhye. And at the top, preparations are underway for an offensive operation in the area of ​​Kupyansk and Seversk. Now the number one question is to put the squeeze on Artemovsk ...

[Vadim Topal Pasha]

The Briton either does not control the situation or is frankly delirious. What the hell are German tanks? Did they send 4 pieces, 10 they promised, a hundred (even if only three) they promised to promise to deliver and build a strategy on this against a country that has already ground several thousand tanks? I am already silent about other armored objects.

However, people from the fleet stood at the origins of British tank building. Therefore, the resulting tanks and specialists in their use .... obscene ... :)

[Alex242]

Quote: paul3390

The Russian command has one trump card that can instantly change the situation on the battlefield, turning the course of the special operation in favor of Russia. We are talking about a massive air attack, the task of which will be to suppress the air defense of Ukraine. According to British intelligence, Russia has already concentrated a large number of aircraft, helicopters and drones near the Ukrainian border, using about 40 airfields for this.

whether the outfit will let them, it's not the time ....

[MEHAXEM]

And why waited a whole year and did not break it? Strange

[ximkim]

Just a trump card on a trump card.
They troll significantly.

[Strannik96]

Card sharpers, not generals.
The text of your comment

[Roust]

Our trump card, gentlemen of hell, is our close-knit national unity with the great Russian spirit of love of God! And this is your sentence, our enemy!

[patxi46]

Nothing flies higher than the SU-57. We don't want to hurt more than necessary. Then you have to restore, and it's expensive.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote from patxi46

Nothing flies higher than the SU-57. We don't want to hurt more than necessary. Then you have to restore, and it's expensive.

MiG-31 flies higher.

[Volunteer Marek]

Oh, no matter how late it was. Time does not work for us. Ukraine is arming itself at an accelerated pace. Do not hesitate to ask and demand everything they need. And, most importantly, they get it. And their combat capability is growing rapidly. We are also learning to fight. And, as a result, the number of losses increases.

[bravo77]

if not for the history of 1.5 million sets of forms, I would have believed

[bravo77]

and before that they were waiting for the West to put up air defense
such a knightly fit

[Grits]

Quote from: bravo77

and before that they were waiting for the West to put up air defense
such a knightly fit

Whether there will be more ... Another knightly fit will be with the F-16

[bravo77]

Quote: Serge9901

The Kremenchug Oil Refinery was transferred to the zone of responsibility of the Armed Forces, supplies the army of the enemy with fuel and lubricants. Works in two shifts. The factory lights and torches are visible for miles. The question is - who benefits from it in the Kremlin if bombing the refinery is a matter of hours and extinguishing it is very, very difficult? Surnames - in the studio. No - announce the next mobilization among the sons-in-law of the Shoigu and the sons of the lady.

until the 16th century boyars

Quote: Shurik70

The main thing is that powerful air defense systems are deployed in Ukraine.
A massive attack, of course, will crush them (a massive attack, many times greater than the capabilities of the defense, generally always wins, except in cases of incorrectly assessed defense). That's just the victims will be doxpena. And the attackers.
Ukraine will be given new air defense. Russia can only make new aircraft itself.
So, it seems, the Angles are trying to breed us for heavy losses.

the fact that the hedgehog is bred is understandable,
as well as not using a massive air strike at the beginning of your own (at the first losses)
it was a betrayal (try to attach arrogant people here)
well, now either losses with a result, or the disbandment of the air force (except for strategists)
otherwise, except to drive the barmaley in Syria, they are about nothing

[patxi46]

Russia's biggest advantage is that it fights with reason on its side and without the Russophobic hatred of the West that will make it make bad decisions.

[sir Garry]

Russophobic hatred of the West... And how is it? There are no Russians in the West!

[Alexey Sommer]

The British just see how we fall for all their cheating blackmail, which is called a bluff, so they continue to throw nonsense.
If they had not fallen for their blackmail in 2014, the problem of Ukraine would not exist now
Would not be led now to their blackmail and demolished to hell with TNW Lvov and Krakow!
Yes! And Krakow.
Now Mariupol would be intact and the war would end with the victory of Russia.
And the sanctions will never be lifted until they dismantle Russia for parts.

[MBRSS]

I am more and more inclined to think that until we produce (or buy) 10-20 thousand shock disposable drones, nothing good can be expected in the future. (Do not offer nuclear weapons!)

[bravo77]

Quote: paul3390

It means that the Russian Federation does not have such an opportunity.

There is undoubtedly a possibility, but with focal air defense not suppressed, there will undoubtedly be tangible losses as well .. And so far, it seems that our leadership is not ready to exchange the success of an offensive operation for, say, 100-150 aircraft. For non-current aviation is an extremely expensive thing, and it will take a very long time to make up for such damage. Against the background of the fact that it is not very clear what to expect from expensive Western partners, apparently such a price is still considered unacceptable ..

maestro,
but how and why to protect this aviation, if, according to the geopolitics, the fate of the country is being decided in Ukraine.
is there infa that natives with spears will attack us, and then we will show them the power of our air force?

[Ohsetin]

The Russian command has one trump card that can instantly change the situation on the battlefield, turning the course of the special operation in favor of Russia. We are talking about a massive air attack, the task of which will be to suppress the air defense of Ukraine.

Another general clown paid from AP funds. In order to suppress something, you first need to scout it, and we have quite a problem with this, after Plywood and Trampoline steered the system (and they also tried before them).

[bravo77]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

The British just see how we fall for all their cheating blackmail, which is called a bluff, so they continue to throw nonsense.
If they had not fallen for their blackmail in 2014, the problem of Ukraine would not exist now
Would not be led now to their blackmail and demolished to hell with TNW Lvov and Krakow!
Yes! And Krakow.
Now Mariupol would be intact and the war would end with the victory of Russia.
And the sanctions will never be lifted until they dismantle Russia for parts.

in the year 14 there was no blackmail, given the "power" of Nenko
were the stupidity and shortsightedness of the other side.
or maybe a betrayal of the interests of the country for the sake of business and some kind of grievances, showdowns between groups of both the Kremlin and Ukrainian

[runway-1]

Very relevant text to the article and comments:

"SVO. Clausewitz and the Void"
https://www.apn.ru/index.php?newsid=43175

[_simply]

Russia has a trump card... These are sensible people in the General Staff.

[Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev]

If it is strongly pinned down, Russia, even without nuclear weapons, can decide the course of the NMD in its favor within one week. The strike force of rocket, bomb weapons and artillery is enough for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to destroy the entire command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the leadership of Ukraine, supply systems, command posts, means of control and communications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in a day. After that, complete chaos and panic will begin in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Delighted fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will scatter to their homes. I don’t know why Putin slows down this option for the development of the NWO. Already would have forgotten about the SVO. And then for a whole year they have been tormenting the people of this NWO.

[Nick2591]

The course of the SVO suggests that both sides will try to destroy as many of the Russian population as possible. Mostly Russians are fighting on both sides. Galicians (they are Ukrainians) share a meager.

[FoBoss_VM]

Wow, my friend, so the war can suddenly end. But what about gesheft? No, well, things won’t work like that ... This war is beneficial to both sides, both to us and to the West, I mean, of course, those military-industrial lobbies that receive a margin from this. We ordinary people need a speedy victory, but does someone ask us and take into account the interests of the people?

[dump22]

I absolutely do not trust any forecasts of the Anglo-Saxons.

I was finally convinced that they were all lying after their forecast:
https://voennoedelo.com/posts/id35344-2bnvbhkzilrgployihfv

The United States said that in February 2023, General Surovikin will be at the gates of Kyiv

In their Newsweek op-ed on the battlefields of the military crisis in Ukraine, former US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia Michael Gfoeller and political commentator David Rundell speculated... “February will find General Surovikin at the gates of Kiev. We must soberly consider and honestly discuss the extent of our commitment to Ukraine, what risks we are ready to take at the expense of our own security.”

[tolmachiev51]

Ukraine is waging a war with your help, we still have a NWO. It's very easy to finish this - where is our "Belgorod"!? , to test "Poseidons" at the mouth of the Thames and in the Fashington area. Attribute everything to the "shift" of the tectonic plates of the earth. The stupefied "brother" understands only a club.

[Vadim Topal Pasha]

Quote: Ulan.1812

Quote from patxi46

Nothing flies higher than the SU-57. We don't want to hurt more than necessary. Then you have to restore, and it's expensive.

MiG-31 flies higher.

Well, then the stratostats are higher. Look, the Chinese recently lit it over Omeriga! :)

[Vadim Topal Pasha]

Quote: _simply

Russia has a trump card... These are sensible people in the General Staff.

Well, you're in a hurry! I have not yet agreed to take command of the General Staff! :)

[Alexander Kochurkov]

Quote: voice of reason

Moreover, they can be multi-vector. for example, a strike from the Kharkov region, with a simultaneous attack on Melitopol and, at the same time, a provocation on the border of Transnistria, followed by an operation to seize military depots in Kolbasnaya.

An offensive in divergent directions is a 100% recipe for defeat.

[newtc7]

This guy thinks too highly of our army. Our Defense Ministry cannot carry out an operation to gain air supremacy. Nothing, sir. No mat parts or brains.

[Alexey Alekseev_5]

I’m wondering if I’m too lazy to look. How old is this general. If he remembers the Douai doctrine, it means an old stump. Or rather an ordinary provocateur. Or an English scientist

[BorzRio]

The Briton is too naive. Believes in fairy tales. Russia does not have a model of 2022-23 of such an attack and strike aircraft capable of a massive large-scale air raid with the defeat of Ukraine's air defense. Russia has extremely worn and physically old remnants of the Soviet era, and there are very few modern Su-35-type aircraft systems, not to mention the SU-57. It’s generally better to remain silent about drum drones. The Su-34 and other systems capable of such strikes are also heavily worn out and practically experience a wild hunger for high-precision V-Z missiles. FABami chtoli deep into Ukraine will they endure Western air defense?
In addition, such an attack requires reconnaissance on targets almost online. For this, Russia has nothing.
Exactly a year ago, Mr. Konashenkov was already babbling tales about a massive strike by the Aerospace Forces and the almost destroyed air defense of Ukraine. What happened next, everyone remembers.