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Maxim Kononenko: Putin 2.0

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Maxim Kononenko: Putin 2.0That happened. What analysts liked to talk about so much in the autumn - in the winter of last year. What the optimists pinned their hopes on and what the pessimists did not believe in. Putin has become different. And analysts were confused.

What did analysts expect last year? The fact that Putin is intelligent and sees growing voter discontent. And so that this growing discontent does not break the nuts, Putin must let go of these nuts. To, so to speak, let off steam. And if this is not done and the nuts will be loosened, then everything that was under the cover will spill out onto the street. That's right, so they discussed, in all this pressure-cooked terminology.

And then something really spilled out onto the streets. Hundred thousandth meetings in Moscow made famous the Institute of Strategic Research, which was previously unknown to anyone, because some time before the meetings, the Institute prepared a report where it predicted these meetings.

True, in the same report, the institute predicted a further inexorable expansion of street protest, which did not happen. However, now the Institute of Strategic Research is considered a reliable predictor, each of its new reports is discussed by the liberal public with great attention.

At the same time, the Institute for Strategic Research, in its original (in the sense of the volume from which institute fame began), proceeded from the same from which all others proceeded: from the need to loosen the nuts. Since it is in the nuts and are all the problems of Russia.

However, Putin did not unscrew the nuts. Moreover, after his inauguration, a rather consistent feeling developed that the nuts, on the contrary, were tightened. All this summer legislative insanity, “a swamp affair,” a search of Ksenia Sobchak, a registry of banned websites ... “Power is in hysterics!” - last year’s analysts solemnly announced.

But after all it if to consider as the power the State Duma and the Investigative Committee. “They are doing the will of the Kremlin!” A different analyst will argue with me. Well, of course, they do. Sometimes. Because if EVERYTHING that the Duma and the Investigation Committee (and all other organizations) are doing was done according to the will of the Kremlin, then the will of the Kremlin would not be enough.

In general, Putin 2.0 was not viewed in any way, and analysts have lost hope.

Suddenly, literally within a week, _all_ changed.

Serdyukov’s resignation, searches, cases of colossal embezzlement in the army, arrests, cases of embezzlement at the APEC summit, arrests, Ministry of Regional Development, searches, arrests, embezzlements in GLONASS, dismissal ... And against the backdrop of this anti-corruption explosion - the appointment of Defense Minister Shoigu while maintaining control over the Emergencies Ministry and the Moscow region, Putin’s promises to revise especially the idiotic laws adopted by the State Duma over the past summer, even the introduction to the Human Rights Council of Alexander Brod, who was starving for this advice, looks like As if going somewhere else. But not with us.

Analysts are at a loss. All they have to do is a banal prediction of the future presidency of Shoigu (although two weeks ago they predicted the future presidency of Rogozin with the same confidence).

Meanwhile, it seems that last week Putin 2.0 did take place. But Putin would not be Putin if he was held in such a capacity as analysts expected of him. Never have analysts predicted Putin. They could not predict it this time.

And Putin, instead of unscrewing the unknown nuts and letting the hipsters gasping without her, take a sledgehammer into the center of the so-called "national elite" and sweep it with a swing. That is - a completely different action took in the direction of a completely different audience.

And now, looking only a week ago, this step seems quite obvious.

Because neither the government nor the nation has any significant problems with these not reaching down to the percentage of the population “angry citizens”. But with the elite, who was furiously intoxicated by fatty intoxication, there are significant problems both in the authorities and in the nation.

In the case of the conditional “loosening of the screws,” one hundred thousand people would have remained satisfied (that is, those who had received some additional degrees of freedom in their quest to shift power). And corrupt officials would continue to steal further.

But the anti-corruption blow to the “right to have” leaves the entire population satisfied. And non-illusory fear fills in the minds of corrupt officials, for it is completely incomprehensible where exactly the intractable trait lies. And what should be done in order to come to you with a search. And this, you know, cools many of those for whom near-state corruption is not an ideology, but a forbidden fruit that is so interesting to try.

At the same time, note, it does not matter at all what exactly became the detonator of Putin’s transition to a new phase state. Whether his mysterious illness, or the horror of what is happening in the legislative sphere. Either simply an understanding of the impossibility of further staying in a stable, despondent state.

But we now have 2.0 Putin.

With what I congratulate all of you.
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  1. YARY
    YARY 19 November 2012 11: 27
    +4
    Or is it a smoke screen?
    But so far no one has received the pyraxene tags.
    1. bask
      bask 19 November 2012 12: 59
      -24
      Ardent. In my opinion, this maxim is just a mutak .... Or ,, cheap ,, TROL .... Full article ...
      1. crazyrom
        crazyrom 19 November 2012 19: 03
        +1
        The article is great, thanks! I myself smashed something like this, Putin literally began to make a revolution, and here is the confirmation, so it’s not me who thought so, it means it is!
  2. fellow misha
    fellow misha 19 November 2012 11: 40
    -7
    Well done Maxim, it’s not in vain that I signed up for your tweets.
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 19 November 2012 18: 34
      +6
      Lying - don't plow. He lied and rested.
      I did not see anything in this article that 1000000000 would not have been discussed on this site — apart from the sheer volume of clever words written by clever analysts on other sites.
  3. Cthulhu
    Cthulhu 19 November 2012 11: 46
    +7
    Sing praises, or express negativity, while I refrain. Therefore, I will leave the article unrated. Too early, IMHO. The term of the preliminary investigation is 2 months) ... In early December, a little clearer. Of course, before the trial, the case will not reach yet ... but at least the charges will have to be decided.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 19 November 2012 14: 11
      +5
      Quote: Cthulhu
      Sing praises, or express negativity, while I refrain. Therefore, I will leave the article unrated. Too early, IMHO. The term of the preliminary investigation is 2 months) ... In early December, a little clearer. Of course, before the trial, the case will not reach yet ... but at least the charges will have to be decided.

      - I take the same position. True, my deadline is not December, it is not clear to me, what can be clarified in December? Here are two years or two and you can summarize - is Putin 2.0 or is it a fiction? Or is it the good old Putin 1.0, just stabilizing Russia, but not stopping it from the wrong course - that would have disappeared into the abyss of a healthy, alive and unharmed -)))))). It’s not so interesting to watch a car falling apart into the abyss and in the largest drop section a set of rolling parts together, it’s interesting to watch a whole and quite viable car coming to this largest section in a fully operational state. Sorry for the cynical allegory, but I have 1.0 impression of Putin - I only stabilized it. What about a sharp turn and pull up, away from the abyss? If not capable - I would find someone who is capable of ....
  4. Z.A.M.
    Z.A.M. 19 November 2012 11: 46
    +13
    That’s how, as the author interestingly turns out - "... it doesn't matter at all what exactly triggered Putin's transition to a new phase state." ... But it's important to me. It's another matter that no one, including the "analysts", knows these "detonators" ...

    Perhaps it is POSSIBLE (!), As many said, Serdyukov and Co. is just a "expansion tank" for releasing steam. I am, so far, more inclined to this.
    Let's see what happens next.
    That's all Spiz ... ... well, stolen (loot) + harm (loot is only 1/10 of this concept), it will be very difficult to return it back. If at all possible.
    There are so many shoals that can be investigated for years. After prescription, much will be forgotten and erased from memory ...

    And I don't see any "Putin 2.0" ...
    In addition to Serdyukov and Co., there are hundreds of similar problems.
    1. Orik
      Orik 19 November 2012 12: 19
      -2
      I completely agree. Putin 2.0 is if the whole system changes.
      1. urzul
        urzul 19 November 2012 12: 28
        +7
        December 25 1991 already changed the whole system and received the Russian version of 0,9beta
        1. Orik
          Orik 19 November 2012 15: 47
          +3
          Changed, is this a rebirth of nomenclature change? They just continued their degradation, you need to think.
      2. Homo
        Homo 19 November 2012 13: 33
        +1
        Orik,
        Or maybe not. Once Yeltsin has already changed the whole system, we still rake shit!
        1. Islam
          Islam 19 November 2012 19: 13
          +4
          Quote: Homo
          Or maybe not. Once Yeltsin has already changed the whole system, we still rake shit!

          Yeltsin made Russia pro-Western, thus subjugating it to America and putting on the shackles of liberalism, and Putin creates for Russia his own development path where Russia will be among the world leaders, will become a geopolitical pole. And therefore, changing the system, he breaks these shackles so the liberals panicked - they We felt that Russia was able to stand on its feet, and therefore the United States panicked and did not hesitate to give instructions to protesters against Putin right at their embassy
          Putin will raise Russia and none cannot interfere with him
    2. donchepano
      donchepano 19 November 2012 12: 43
      +3
      late come. The officer corps, not close to the body at the dawn of the furniture Ministry of Defense, spoke about the future collapse.
      Most of the money is "mastered" property, real estate has been sold for so many years
      1. predator.3
        predator.3 19 November 2012 15: 02
        +6
        Yesterday they showed by a box that the headquarters building of the ground forces was sold and had already been converted into a hotel ..... comments are unnecessary!

        the introduction to the Human Rights Council starving in hunger for this advice, Alexander Brod - this is generally from the repertoire of Elena Vorobei, "Well, take me!" laughing
        1. predator.3
          predator.3 19 November 2012 15: 07
          0
          [media = http: // http: //video.mail.ru/mail/nikonoranna/5027/5302.html]
      2. Nick
        Nick 19 November 2012 23: 14
        +1
        Quote: donchepano

        late come.

        Better late than never.
    3. Middle-brother
      Middle-brother 19 November 2012 15: 09
      +6
      Quote: Z.A.M.
      Serdyukov and Co - just a "expansion tank" for releasing steam
      - I am inclined to the same opinion. You can add - + switching public attention
  5. IRBIS
    IRBIS 19 November 2012 11: 51
    +3
    It is hoped that this is only the beginning, which was so expected. We look at the development of events, real results, and then we can draw conclusions. In the meantime, it's too early to judge.
  6. VadimSt
    VadimSt 19 November 2012 11: 54
    +1
    Often we are told about faith, not that divine, but ordinary - faith in goodness, justice, one's abilities, etc. Many bureaucrats and others - small and large "exceptional personalities", not only believed in their exclusivity, but, at the same time, in their impunity. For them, everyone else is just plebeians. Unfortunately, "for the grandmother", there is always a "conscious and active part of society", but it's so simple - it's simple, others have no time to do this, therefore, just discussing. We, ourselves, are to blame for the fact that voters, just citizens (whatever you want), have no real ways to demand from the current government to "crush the pallets", and not transplant them into other "pots", or release "everything on the brakes."
    Let's hope that an active anti-corruption company doesn’t end there, but will find its continuation in the courts.
  7. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 19 November 2012 12: 02
    +11
    I don’t know how what will happen, but one thing makes me happy about the opposition. I haven’t seen "our" human rights activist, a US citizen, who claims to be protecting our interests on TV for a long time. The less this rabble is shown on TV, the better.
    1. donchepano
      donchepano 19 November 2012 12: 45
      +3
      what do you mean, Alekseev?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 November 2012 12: 52
        0
        Quote: donchepano
        what do you mean, Alekseev?

        HER anyone else, even writing a surname is disgusting.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 19 November 2012 14: 23
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          HER anyone else, even writing a surname is disgusting.

          - I haven't seen Sobchak on the Central Television for a long time, I just don't have TNT, so I don't know what's wrong with House-2, but I thought there were too many of her appearances at first. Now I don’t see her, and I’m already glad of that and don’t quite share the generally accepted stereotype, like, "What are you looking at from the first?" Thanks to the absence of Sobchak, the first was noticeably ennobled -))))).
          Py.Sy. Although the stereotype about the first channel is mainly implanted by Pimples and others, whom I would like to advise - deal with the veracity of your own TV channels, after covering the conflict on 08.08.08, the diagnosis from Israeli channels in terms of objectivity is completely disappointing, moreover, almost fatal. And let us take care of the formation of our own stereotypes about "our first" without your participation. Moreover, there are not talented journalists - the same Leontyev, and Shevchenko, and even Pozner and Gordon, although the political views of the latter are by no means close to me - I just note their level of professionalism.
          1. 19 November 2012 20: 49
            -1
            Quote: aksakal
            I have not seen Sobchak for a long time

            I noticed that too. Perhaps the money was returned to her with the last Chinese warning: "You do whatever you want, but if you get into politics again, we will remember everything." Now the frequency of its flickering on the screen has noticeably decreased.
        2. donchepano
          donchepano 19 November 2012 19: 42
          +1
          here yah so the letter was too lazy to add .. there is a lot of honor for the stinker
  8. d.gksueyjd
    d.gksueyjd 19 November 2012 12: 24
    +2
    "Chickens are counted in the fall" - time will tell whether the struggle for the country's bright future has begun or is it just another "zilch" in order to at least slightly reduce the population's discontent with the party of embezzlers and traitors!

    "Chickens are counted in the fall" Time will show whether the struggle for the country's future has begun or is it "zilch" to reduce people's discontent with the existing regime of embezzlers and traitors!
  9. Soldier
    Soldier 19 November 2012 12: 30
    +11
    I do not set the goal of comparing Putin with the genius of Stalin (the scale is not the same). BUT !!! ... Joseph Vissarionovich also began personnel, purges, of any Nepmanish counter and fatty opportunists only after being in power for 13 years ...
    1. Stary oper
      Stary oper 20 November 2012 00: 59
      -4
      Soldier
      God save us from personnel purges in the style of Joseph Vissarionovich ... :)
      1. Fox 070
        Fox 070 20 November 2012 23: 37
        +1
        Stary oper,
        Well, rabbit soul, let's talk about your comments on old branches and about who studied where to read and write?
        1. Stary oper
          Stary oper 21 November 2012 00: 53
          0
          Fox 070
          Oh my god, how much pathos ... :) Who are you, so that I report to you? Have you, by any chance, delusions of grandeur developed from stars on uniform? So I will explain to you just in case - they are virtual.
          You are not interesting to me at all. you have already spoken about this once before. As well as your opinion and the opinion of your kind. I have long lived my own ideas about life and do not need such "teachers". So, as the classic said: "Saw, Shura, saw ..." :)
      2. Fox 070
        Fox 070 21 November 2012 00: 34
        +1
        Quote: Stary oper
        God save us from personnel purges in the style of Joseph Vissarionovich ..

        Prayers ... Prayers ... wassat
        1. Stary oper
          Stary oper 21 November 2012 00: 54
          0
          And pictures are of course an argument ... :)
  10. arkady149
    arkady149 19 November 2012 12: 33
    +1
    The forecasts of political analysts can be illustrated as follows: "A man chopping a branch will fall to the left of the bitch" - although the forecast did not come true 100%, the man simply fell, but "we predicted, we can be trusted."
    PS With the holiday, missile and artillery!
  11. baltika-18
    baltika-18 19 November 2012 12: 43
    +11
    Is Putin a new, modernized one? This is another bred. The system he created works, nothing changes. Noise at the top, resignations, arrests of small things, the usual process of redistribution. For whom is all this? For their loved ones. Why all this? Create an appearance? Yes , most likely. To distract people from problems? And that too. They just talk about it. Other topics have died out. What is getting out of attention now? 136 out of 500 state universities are recognized as ineffective, their fate is closing, free education, ay, where are you ? Payments for a communal apartment went up, raised the topic a little, everything died out, is silent. Now you are in a better scandal in the Ministry of Defense, as you hadn’t known before. Have your eyes opened unexpectedly? Notice, everything is cleverly done. 2007 puts Serdyukov in Putin, leaves in 2008 at the premiere, the army reform begins, read the collapse, Putin seems to be out of business, 2012 they remove Serdyukov with a scandal, the Moor has done his job, the Moor may leave. Putin is a fighter against corruption, which he himself created.
    1. 19 November 2012 20: 51
      -1
      Quote: baltika-18
      Putin is a fighter against corruption, which he himself created.

      Read / watch LJ Evgeny Fedorov. A lot of interesting.
  12. Bosk
    Bosk 19 November 2012 12: 55
    -10
    Fiddling with bureaucrats is not Putin’s problem, it’s Russia's eternal problem ... It’s raaaz ... and two is that in careerism there is one unpleasant trick ... not the best comes up ... it's the law of nature .. and in the laws nature is no longer to blame Putin .........
    1. Bosk
      Bosk 19 November 2012 19: 11
      +2
      in Mlyn ...... judging by the minuses ... here on the website of officials there are also enough .......
      1. Stary oper
        Stary oper 20 November 2012 01: 05
        -1
        Bosch.
        These are not officials. They are either communists or nationalists. Both are in opposition to Putin. Although the former "dodged" before the collapse of the country, the latter, apart from pogroms and redistribution of property, will not offer anything worthwhile. It is enough to look at the faces of the participants in the so-called "Russian March" walking with a poster "I am a Nazi!"
        1. FATEMOGAN
          FATEMOGAN 21 November 2012 03: 33
          0
          Stary opera+
          if the communists "just drove" to the collapse of the country - SOLD, so one bald traitor sold the Motherland for a pizza, and the rest of the communist sh ... iki then voted for the Belovezhskaya agreements, although according to the constitution of the USSR they had no right to do so, they confused the people with dirt, they destroyed the country, and what they did not manage to finish off, they threw it back into the Stone Age, they just started to crawl out of the darkness a little, as they fluffed up, - do not do it like that, breathe wrong, (like - let me steer, we will do a circle again) what you alone, the country was shredded alive, while others were silent, why are you THEN !!! did not give their cheerful voice ..... ???????????
  13. buga1979
    buga1979 19 November 2012 13: 19
    +2
    and where is the landing?
  14. urchik
    urchik 19 November 2012 13: 20
    +1
    Quote: baltika-18
    they remove Serdyukov with a scandal, the Moor has done his job, the Moor may leave
    I wonder what dessert is prepared ,, red voucher ,,?
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 19 November 2012 15: 14
      +5
      Quote: urchik
      I wonder what dessert is prepared ,, red voucher ,,?

      Putin swims shallowly, one place is clear that Uncle Tolya would eat instead of dessert. This is not a task for him, here I think I need a more powerful figure. After all, Chubais is a kind of "overseer", to end it cause the anger of the world financial elite. Yes, and from the point of view The current government and the system created by it have nothing to do with Redhead.
      1. donchepano
        donchepano 19 November 2012 19: 48
        +2
        Tolian not sinking .. Onizh colleagues
  15. sergo0000
    sergo0000 19 November 2012 13: 24
    +11
    Article plus. But after reading komenty sincerely surprised by the reaction of our members of the forum!
    Why are you such pessimists men!? Remember how it all began and what problems Putin faced when he took power from EBN. And now what does it cost him.
    For me, to hell with these stolen billions (not yet lost fact) with them if I firmly knew that this was a payment for the future course of our country and the president! Somehow I would have to sacrifice for the future. So better paper money than loss of life!
    And before the revolution in Russia in recent years, we have one step. Even I would now take up arms to protect my future and my children. But do we need a civilian ?! When I’m not even sure of my housemate. I think it will not get any worse!
    With what YOU and congratulations !!!
    1. SSR
      SSR 19 November 2012 14: 10
      +4
      And Putin, instead of unscrewing the unknown nuts and letting the hipsters gasping without her, take a sledgehammer into the center of the so-called "national elite" and sweep it with a swing. That is - a completely different action took in the direction of a completely different audience.
      eh, maybe the author got excited and said a sledgehammer .. but he smeared it))
      Quote: sergo0000
      Remember how it all began and what problems Putin faced when he took power from the EBN. And now what does it cost him.

      Yes. it’s just for everyone .. the belly does not remember yesterday’s good)) it requires today)) and with people for a bad memory, long for a good short))
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 19 November 2012 20: 23
      +2
      Quote: sergo0000
      Why are you such pessimists men!

      Why are you so ... shortsighted. Each time they breed you with the same gingerbread, the same people. Putin took power from Yeltsin (almost took it away), Putin tamed the oligarchs. Eventually privatization robbery of the 90s is legalized, of the oligarchs sits one hodor, some of which b. in London. The rest thrive and get rich on stolen goods. Putin, as a slave in the galleys, worked a second term. As a result, given the favorable situation with energy prices, Russia not only did not modernize the industry, but, on the contrary, degraded in production and especially in technological terms. The pipe economy has formed. Putin against the orange liberals. As a result, the clowns performed the performance, received royalties (moreover, from two box offices) and rest until the next performance. Putin, on the other hand, signs a super-liberal entry into the WTO, does not impede juvenile justice, liberal reforms of the army, education, health care and housing and communal services.
      The latter bred - the fight against corruption. Because only a schizophrenic can fight his own system, but Putin is not like him.
      Check your eyesight, apparently the "dew of God" makes itself felt.
  16. IlyaKuv
    IlyaKuv 19 November 2012 13: 28
    +7
    This Putin’s strange personality is that you hate him, paint the image of a soulless intriguer, or, on the contrary, marvel at his actions. I bet he will still surprise us, time will tell us well or badly.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 19 November 2012 15: 24
      +7
      Quote: IlyaKuv
      This Putin’s strange personality is that you hate him, paint the image of a soulless intriguer, or, on the contrary, marvel at his actions. I bet he will still surprise us, time will tell us well or badly.

      I don’t know. His actions do not surprise me at all. Moreover, they fit perfectly into the scheme if you can only imagine what is behind him. Look: the presidential election, America is against Putin’s candidacy. If America is against the logic, then Putin is good, rating up. But not yet the election results were announced, as citizen Clinton congratulated him on his election, the very first one. Of course, I can be mistaken, but the further I look, the more I am convinced that I am right. Not everything is clean in our highest echelons of power.
      1. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 19 November 2012 16: 03
        +2
        baltika-18
        Quote: baltika-18
        Not everything is clean in our highest echelons of power.
        I agree.
        Quote: baltika-18
        His actions do not surprise me at all.
        By the way, as a result of such "unexpected" and "abrupt" reshuffles in the Ministry of Defense, Putin's RATING has grown. As much as a couple of percent, in a couple of days. And that's a lot.
        So that - what
  17. not good
    not good 19 November 2012 13: 31
    +8
    If you recall Andropov, it didn’t take a week for him to leave a big person, at best, to retire. What happened to the stool is not an indicator that Putin is putting things in order. and even bring to court at least the case of the Moscow Region, then you can hope that something has turned around in Putin’s direction. For now, this is not Putin 2.0, but Putin 02.
    1. d.gksueyjd
      d.gksueyjd 20 November 2012 16: 33
      -1
      You are right, the situation resembles a mountain snake. That is, one head does not know what the other ate? GDP is forced to surrender an ally, like chess - sacrificing a piece to win. crying
  18. sergant89
    sergant89 19 November 2012 13: 33
    +2
    Quote: urchik
    I wonder what dessert is prepared ,, red voucher ,,?

    I would like, but it is unlikely that this dessert will be, the hunchbacked c-k was even awarded with an order without saying what dishes are there request
  19. Normal
    Normal 19 November 2012 13: 33
    +5
    And there is unbridled fear in the minds of corrupt officials ........ And this, you know, cools many of those for whom state corruption is not an ideology but a forbidden fruit that is so interesting to try.

    Charming ...
    Yes, to be afraid, those who consider corruption not a state ideology, but a forbidden fruit
    Here Mikhail Leontyev, for example, considers corruption as a way of leading the state. He’s not afraid of anything. And Serdyukov has nothing to fear; the president has no complaints against him.
    And the article, of course, is a minus. "Leasing" in its purest form.
  20. Igarr
    Igarr 19 November 2012 13: 42
    +3
    Hi, brothers.
    What is the name for the shadow of horseradish?
    So the article is the same shadow.
    ..
    Putin 2.0? No, not 2.0. A - 1.1.
    From what happened and what this Max writes about - what's stunning here?
    And when Khodor was planted, what version was Putin?
    ..
    I liked how Armeec said ... Stalin waited 13 for years, before the start of landings.
    Next year is 13. For Putin.
    That would not be wrong. Pending.
    1. Ilyich
      Ilyich 19 November 2012 15: 49
      +7
      Quote: Igarr
      I liked how Armeec said ... Stalin waited 13 for years, before the start of landings.
      Next year is 13. For Putin.
      That would not be wrong. Pending.

      He did not wait. He prepared the conditions so that a new revolution did not happen during these landings and that those who were planted didn’t shoot him somewhere at the meeting.
      For purges of corruption, one desire is not enough. It is also necessary that the socio-economic situation is consistent.
      We ask ourselves a simple question: what would happen if all these criminal cases did not happen now, but, say, 5-6 years ago?
      And there would be a bunch of "khodor cases" with the howl of the liberal press, the European Union, and "deepest concern" of the tan. After all, the Hodor was imprisoned for the very thing for which they now pinch all these thieves! And they still howl!
      Instead, Vova made the right conclusions:
      At first, he gradually created the conditions for corruption to become the main reason for criticism from the "free press," and now he began to root it out with passion. And after all, the media will not go anywhere now, they will have to support laughing

      However, I agree with previous statements that it is still too early to draw definite conclusions: not a single landing has yet happened. This is so ... I am optimistic about the future
      1. SSR
        SSR 19 November 2012 16: 44
        0
        Quote: Ilyich
        At first, he gradually created the conditions for corruption to become the main reason for criticism from the "free press," and now he began to root it out with passion. And after all, the media are nowhere to go, you have to support

        Yeah to live with these knives yes to their howl
        Three-letter brothers ... and take off badly and without them uncle .. it remains this media to beat them with their own weapons.
      2. d.gksueyjd
        d.gksueyjd 19 November 2012 17: 04
        +1
        Quote: Ilyich
        I am so ... optimistic about the future

        Alas, I am a pessimist, and a pessimist is a well-informed optimist. In my opinion, if Serdyukov is even brought to the status of an accused, THE CASE WILL NOT GET TO COURT. Otherwise, it will be possible to jail for similar crimes almost the entire environment of VVP, and "the boss will not do it". They will also reward the investigator and those who leaked the information to the media, as was the case with the Moscow "prosecutors"
        1. Ilyich
          Ilyich 19 November 2012 17: 23
          0
          Quote: d.gksueyjd
          Otherwise, it will be possible to jail for similar crimes almost the entire environment of VVP, and "the boss will not agree to this"

          And if this is what the boss is aiming for? Well, he may not be able to transplant everyone, so at least frighten him so that even out of great need they go around with caution.)
          It’s too early to draw conclusions wink
  21. nekromonger
    nekromonger 19 November 2012 14: 49
    +5
    2.0 if Taburetkin was in jail, but I don’t see the difference. All the words.
  22. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 19 November 2012 15: 07
    0
    Nuts breaks in different ways! It seems to me that such a forced removal of Serdyukov from his place of residence was an indicator of such a breakdown ...
    Eh, we’ll see something else, my heart smells ...
  23. serge
    serge 19 November 2012 16: 26
    -2
    "Putin 2.0" is installed when the delete function is applied to Chubais, Prokhorov, and all the other Abramovichs. So far we are dealing with the good old stable version of "Putin 1.0".
  24. homosum20
    homosum20 19 November 2012 17: 44
    +1
    What an optimistic young man. GDP has always been smart, always able to find sensitive points in society. I found it now (especially since it has long been proclaimed the official slogan of the authorities).
    It seems that the author yesterday removed the blindfold from his eyes and ears and can’t get enough of the picture that suddenly opened.
  25. Magadan
    Magadan 19 November 2012 18: 03
    +8
    While the people of these presumptuous bureaucrats will not start pecking themselves, we will not stop this damn outrage. Well, I do not believe in revolution from above. Of course, thanks for the last cleanings of these presumptuous scum, but we must learn to destroy these rats ourselves. We have no other choice. I understand that they steal everywhere, but with us, these freaks not only steal, they are still brazenly laughing in our faces, and they say that we are disenfranchised cattle, that they can do whatever they want, because they are the elite. There, they heard one of the city bureaucrats said the other day that the most stupid deputy is smarter than the most intelligent ordinary citizen. That is their attitude. I know firsthand that I worked as a translator at one time, when they, by the way, were more modest in their behavior.
    1. nokki
      nokki 19 November 2012 19: 10
      +7
      Oh, Magadan, how right you are, buddy! For the past three years, the hand has simply reached for the pistol to shoot a bullet in some satanic face. There has never been such a lawlessness against ordinary people in the history of Russia! They may object to me: serfdom, "time of troubles", etc. The point is different! In us, this "pseudo-elite" sees not even slaves, not "second-rate" ones, but those who need destroy completely! And he does everything for this! Although at the same time they will die themselves! That's what scary!
      1. Magadan
        Magadan 20 November 2012 03: 41
        0
        You can't even compare it with serfdom. In those "dark" times, they still served the Fatherland. Yes, and it was possible to escape to the Don from serfdom. And now where are you going to hide from these nits? Again, the elite of that time, at least according to its merits, was an elite. Their ancestors earned the nobility with blood, and they themselves, without exception, in the army were officers with honor. And who are these now? Liza and losers. They are not capable of stealing and doing their work in parallel. Potemkin was also a embezzler, but his language will not turn him with the current ones, like to compare Madame Vasilyeva.
        It is necessary to hammer nits.
  26. suharev-52
    suharev-52 19 November 2012 19: 01
    0
    The article is so-so. I will not repeat common truths. Without me on the site: both white and black are in abundance. Regarding GDP: We wait and see. Sincerely.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 19 November 2012 21: 31
      +3
      Quote: suharev-52
      Wait and see. Sincerely.

      That’s how we will prosper Russia, as the Union was prosralized. With great respect, we’ll sleep.
  27. Karabin
    Karabin 19 November 2012 21: 24
    +5
    That happened. What analysts liked to talk about so much in the autumn - in the winter of last year. What the optimists pinned their hopes on and what the pessimists did not believe in. Putin has become different. And analysts were confused.


    And Maxim Kononenko was not confused, although nothing happened. Nothing like that to mark the advent of Putin 2.0.

    Serdyukov’s resignation, searches, cases of colossal thefts in the army, arrests, cases of thefts at the APEC summit, arrests, Ministry of Regional Development, searches, arrests, thefts in GLONASS, dismissals ...

    Yeltsin proclaimed, "Take as much sovereignty as you want" - we are still loosening it. Putin gave everything related to the budget to feed the entourage.
    Pushism played a cruel joke with the guys and girls. It was not enough for them to milk the budget, using essentially thieves' schemes that do not fall under the scope of our liberal laws. Having got a taste, they started just to rob. But even this would have failed if there had been no annoying clan squabble. All this splashed into the media controlled by the clans, and healed his life. The result of the squabble (and not the will of the president), after confusion, reflection and consultations, Putin’s forced resignation of Serdyuk, and the affairs of the bureaucrat of the Ministry of Defense. With GLONASS, it’s still quiet. At the same time, many of the defendants are free, and a transparent hint to the investigation to dig horizontally and not go deep, in our case up.
    Immediately the company began in the media, about a new round of the fight against corruption, initiated and led by the president, and Kononenko is participating in it.
    The goal is to make the black male white.
  28. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 19 November 2012 22: 15
    +5
    “But we now seem to have Putin 2.0.
    With which I, in fact, congratulate all of you. "


    So it seems, or does not it seem?
    Why did the GDP change suddenly? Why did you suddenly get the motivation to change something?
    Is it because his whole policy was built to please the oligarchs, at the expense and to the detriment of the disenfranchised people?
    Is it because it just "smelled fried"?
    No, people from a certain age no longer change, do not build illusions.
    This is just a necessary and compelled move to maintain a reputation, power and throne.
  29. Stary oper
    Stary oper 20 November 2012 01: 14
    -3
    I will say one thing. In recent years, Putin is the only politician in Russia at a level for which he is not at least ashamed. I'm not saying that the majority of current Western politicians will envy the ability to debate, his resourcefulness and imaginativeness of speech. Remember at least his last meeting with Chancellor Merkel. So she is next to him, despite her doctorate, just a silly girl repeating a memorized rhyme. :)
    1. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 20 November 2012 21: 09
      +1
      Stary oper
      Quote: Stary oper
      ... the ability to debate, his resourcefulness and imaginativeness of speech, envy the majority of current Western politicians.

      No sense from this ...
      It would be better if he spoke less like "silly girl" Merkel, but Russia was not inferior to Germany in anything ...
      Human affairs are colored, not eloquence. We had Gorby, also very fond of chatting and chatting.
      And even earlier Khrushchev ...
      Those who talk a lot do little.

      1. Stary oper
        Stary oper 20 November 2012 21: 26
        -2
        Samsebenaum
        Do you think that absolutely no? And the incomes of the population are not growing at all? And do Russians live poorer every year?
        The example with Gorbachev is not entirely successful. For "chatting" and being able to conduct polemics are far from the same thing. Just remember Gorbachev's "Azebarzhan". That's exactly what he said. And what does it cost to "start" it?
        1. Samsebenaum
          Samsebenaum 20 November 2012 22: 16
          0
          Stary oper
          Quote: Stary oper
          And the incomes of the population are not growing at all? And do Russians live poorer every year?

          Revenues are rising, of course they are growing ... along with prices.
          In fact, everything is balanced.
          The average teacher income (rate) in the province is 8-12 thousand rubles per month ($ 300-400).
          Fun? Do you know any pensions? And the lowest cost of living? And the minimum wage?
          You can burn with shame.
          Your flag is German, I think your ignorance of our non-standard reality is connected with this.
          Your client has never conducted a polemic in Russia with serious opponents and does not intend to do so.
          There are also Putin's "pearls" - "wet in the toilet", for example.
          1. buga1979
            buga1979 21 November 2012 00: 44
            0
            Russian flag I live in a 100th city I won’t say that we live richly, but compared to what it used to be, there were 2 parking lots and a car in front of the plant, and there’s a problem for the car, and notice mostly foreign cars the metallurgist himself and I know something about not real reality
  30. bart74
    bart74 20 November 2012 02: 30
    0
    Or maybe you are still sleeping?
  31. Marconi41
    Marconi41 20 November 2012 02: 39
    -1
    Any sane person (regardless of "for" or "against" he is VVP) must admit that as a politician, Putin stands head and shoulders above all his opponents. Compare at least with Medvedev, Zhirinovsky, Zyuganov, Yavlinsky)))
    1. Brother Sarych
      Brother Sarych 20 November 2012 21: 14
      +2
      In fact, he NEVER debated with any of them! And why do you need to compare with them? He actually never discussed with anyone, so we don’t know what will happen to him when he encounters a normal opponent ...
      1. Stary oper
        Stary oper 20 November 2012 21: 46
        0
        Brother Sarych.
        Can you name any of the current Russian politicians who can be his "normal opponent"? Only not from the regulars of this site, of which there are many. :)
        1. Brother Sarych
          Brother Sarych 20 November 2012 22: 31
          0
          Of the current politicians, I will not name anyone, because all the more or less healthy ones have long been expelled from politics and they already do not pass the ranks of the acting ...
          For example, Boldyrev gives the impression of a professional, but even because of simple articles he was thrown out from more or less loyal resources ...
          Yes, you can call something, really?
          1. Stary oper
            Stary oper 20 November 2012 23: 07
            -2
            Brother Sarych.
            The fact of the matter is that at the moment, among the current politicians (to take the same current opposition), as they say, there is no one to put their eyes on. This is bad. Without real opposition, that is, approximately equal in strength, any power has very great chances to grow parasites, like shells on the bottom of a ship.
    2. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 20 November 2012 21: 17
      0
      Marconi41
      "... as a politician, Putin stands head and shoulders above all his opponents."
      Quote: Marconi41
      Compare at least with Medvedev, Zhirinovsky, Zyuganov, Yavlinsky)))

      It would be interesting to know what GDP stands for in order to be a cut above. Probably on the vertical of power ...
      But the comparison will not work.
      None of the above has been president. It's a pity...
      Although ... there is a debate for this very comparison. But ... HE always avoids them.
      My question is: WHY ???
      1. Stary oper
        Stary oper 20 November 2012 21: 40
        -2
        Samsebenaum.
        None of the above has been president. It's a pity..

        Let me remind you - Medvedev was just recently to forget. :) No, of course, comrade Zyuganov, as president, this is of course an option ... :)
        I don’t think Putin is avoiding the debate because he will look pale against the backdrop of the above opponents. Maybe he refuses to debate with them solely for humane reasons? :)
        1. Samsebenaum
          Samsebenaum 20 November 2012 22: 21
          0
          Stary oper
          Quote: Stary oper
          Maybe he refuses to debate with them solely for humane reasons? :)


          Former KGB officer and humane considerations? This is not Mother Teresa.
          The answer is simple - facts and results are not in his favor.

          I lost sight of P / S Medvedev, I was mistaken.
          1. Brother Sarych
            Brother Sarych 20 November 2012 22: 33
            0
            A man who came to hire Sobchak as a driver, and then, according to an investigation by the Salier Commission, who lived well on fellow countrymen in fairly hungry years, is a humanist?
            1. Stary oper
              Stary oper 20 November 2012 23: 18
              -1
              As for humanity ... This was a joke. :) About the history of how he allegedly hired Sobchak. I wouldn't really trust this story. But that's my personal opinion. About the fact that "profited". And who then (who had the opportunity) did not profit? Let's be realistic. I know that there are always people who do not steal under any circumstances. Their percentage is small, but there is. Only they usually don't climb the political ladder. Do you know what gives you some hope? The fact that they undertook (albeit slowly, selectively) to press the embezzlement and corruption. Because the realization came that the scale of these phenomena already constitutes a threat to the normal functioning of the country's economy.
              1. Brother Sarych
                Brother Sarych 21 November 2012 00: 02
                0
                A person who himself began with corruption schemes, and in his hungry years, will never seriously fight corruption! Not that mindset, you know ...
                The materials of the commission were not refuted, they were simply silenced ...
                1. buga1979
                  buga1979 21 November 2012 00: 56
                  0
                  the question is, when did we ourselves borrow all the people from work, and I think that you have the opportunity to help your brother, friend, sister settle in a warm place, well, I do not believe that you would refuse, but due to corruption and theft it should be figuratively speaking or did you steal a brush or cut off the cable from the crane are two different things
          2. Stary oper
            Stary oper 20 November 2012 23: 27
            -1
            Samsebenaum.
            No, the statistics are just more or less in order. I am about the growth of the economy. Even the global financial crisis went more or less safely. But bureaucratic theft and corruption is the weakest point of the current government. True, criticizing the current government for this, they somehow miss that this phenomenon did not appear today or even yesterday. Therefore, the article says that there is hope that Putin’s second coming will be marked by the realization that it’s impossible to live like that anymore. Whether it will be just a company with the goal of slightly scaring some circles, and at the same time raising its rating, or will this process take on a systemic character - only time will tell.