Someone else's game leads to the catastrophe of the Russian world

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Someone else's game leads to the catastrophe of the Russian world


Onslaught to the East


The situation continues to deteriorate. The collective West, with the support of internal Russian Vlasovites and comprador merchants, who created the anti-Russian project "Ukraine", has relied on the phased destruction of the Russian Federation, the entire Russian world. This is another "onslaught on the East" - a "crusade" of the West against Rus'-Russia. A thousand-year confrontation between Rus' and the West. Herself story.



Biden in Kyiv solved several problems. First, it is preparation for the elections. The Democrats, the financial capital behind the "brave new world," need a new Biden term.

Secondly, support was shown to the satellite. They patted him on the shoulder. Like, we are with you. Civilized world against Russian barbarians. Go to war, die. Promised new weapon, hundreds tanks, armored personnel carrier and artillery barrels. They also provide more ranged weapons. The question is methodically advancing with combat aviation. Therefore, local Gauleiters, like the head of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Danilov, can broadcast about Ukrainian tanks on the streets of Moscow.

Thirdly, a signal to the world. The US will continue the campaign until complete or partial victory (the conflict may be frozen for a while), but with a continuation. A signal to the world that the Russian Federation is weak. That is, the real masters of the Kyiv regime calmly visit Kyiv (the ancient Russian capital), and nothing threatens them. Our enemies feel confident and behave in a businesslike manner.


Holy war


Head of Chechnya Kadyrov said:

"Today we are in a holy war against the minions of Satan, and there is no doubt about our victory."

He is right that this is indeed a "holy war", in a mystical sense, the struggle between Good and Evil. The enemy destroyed our house in 1991, occupied Russian lands, turned part of the Russian superethnos into Nazi Bandera. Russian lands, cities and villages are turning into ruins. Our people are dying. The collective West wants to drive the remnants of demoralized, broken Russians into its "digital concentration camp". Russian resistance is a challenge to the next version of the new world order.

The problem is that most of the elite of the Russian Federation - political, financial and economic, which is Westerners in upbringing and spirit, part of Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok, whose children and grandchildren are citizens of Europe, there are other relatives and capital, property - it is not possible to fight against oneself wish. Hence the "special operation": shooting, attacks and then trade, resources and capital go to the West, constant attempts to negotiate. The Russian Federation is still the financial and economic "pipe" of the West, and itself finances the war against itself.

Hence the lack of a clear goal and objectives of the Ukrainian campaign. In particular, no artificial dismemberment, division of the unified Russian world and the Russian superethnos into parts has been announced. That Russians-Great Russians and Ukrainians-Little Russians are one superethnos. That Novorossia, Kharkiv region, Zaporozhye, Little Russia, Kievan and Galicia-Volyn Rus are our historical lands, and sooner or later they will be part of Great Russia.

Hence the constant attempts to negotiate, various transactions. A cruel and strong enemy is killing us, flooding our lands with blood, and the Russian Federation has not yet come to the war. Bonded, pro-Western orders remain inside the country, making the Russian Federation an economic periphery, a semi-colony of the West and East.

Positional slaughter


Hence the attempt to wait, which results in a positional impasse. Like, either the donkey will die, or padishah. Hopes that Europe will freeze (this year it did not freeze, like Ukraine) and ask for peace. That the townsfolk will get tired and take to the streets, force the authorities to negotiate. That Ukraine will finally die, there will be a coup, an uprising. American Civil War spells, etc.

The fact is that Russian Ukraine has already been practically killed. This is a demographic catastrophe of the Russian world, the super-ethnos of the Rus. The joy of TV patriots on the topic that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians were killed and wounded is miserable. After all, these are the losses of our civilization and people, and not the enemy. The part of the Ukraine that preserved the most Russianness - Novorossiya and Eastern Little Russia - became a battlefield. Now these are ruins - dead cities and villages, destroyed industrial and social infrastructure. Zone of humanitarian catastrophe. Our original Russian land!

But the owners of Kyiv, and even more so of Washington, London and Brussels, do not care. They solve their strategic, economic tasks. Destroy the Russian land and people. They receive their thirty pieces of silver. The project "Ukraine" was created for this - to die, but to drag the whole of Rus' with it.

The West is ready for a long slaughter. Solid pluses:

1) Russians beat Russians on Russian soil. Our civilization is being depleted, the prerequisites are being created for further division;

2) The Russian Federation continues to provide resources and capital, partially finances the war against itself. Moscow plays by someone else's rules and loses. Inside the country, a strong pro-Western "fifth column", dissatisfied with the fact that "stability" is destroyed;

3) the unification of the West around the United States, the revival of the NATO bloc, rearmament, development of the military-industrial complex, testing of new weapons and technologies. The "world community" has updated the image of the enemy - the "Russian evil empire", Mordor. It remains only to use nuclear weapons, for a complete set;

4) there are no problems with finances. The United States has a machine with world currency, they will print as much as necessary. At the same time, everything will be taken into account and taken from the losers.

Russia, delaying the conflict, gets a whole bunch of problems:

1) discontent of the pro-Western elite, intra-elite conflict. Which leads either to a palace coup, or to the organization of unrest;

2) serious economic problems. So far, China has been quite successfully replacing the West, but this is a change from one dependence to another. A year of confrontation and no new factories, industrialization and protectionist policies. Therefore, the breaking will be very difficult when society wakes up from the darkness of the consumer society;

3) the need for a new wave of mobilization, in a positional struggle this is inevitable. A new wave of social discontent. Plus the deterioration of life, the growth of tariffs and taxes, the cost of fuel, consumer goods. The impossibility of the old life with mortgages, credit cars and trips over the hill, etc.

4) the possibility of a military defeat, at least a local one, which causes the scenario of the Russo-Japanese and World War I. Demoralization of society, which internal Vlasovites will take advantage of;

5) the possibility of a sharp deterioration in the military-political situation. For example, the scenario of the defeat of Transnistria or the siege of Kaliningrad. Then we look at points 2, 3 and 4.

The results are not joyful for our pampered, relaxed society. It's all for the long haul. Even a possible freeze is only a stage in a long slaughter. Everything will be hard, through sweat and blood. Until the entire nation realizes the need for a holy war and one Victory for all.
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  1. +26
    25 February 2023 04: 49
    . The results are sad

    But a year has passed. How long will this nightmare last? After all, there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

    . Someone else's game leads to the catastrophe of the Russian world

    And it looks like we're not playing our own game.

    It is difficult to disagree with the picture of reality described in the article.
    1. -20
      25 February 2023 05: 35
      And how much do you want to submit to the West? Three years? Five? We can right now, but not me. Get lost.
      1. +18
        25 February 2023 06: 36
        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
        And how much do you want to submit to the West? Three years? Five? We can right now, but not me. Get lost.

        And what about China? Dependence on the West with broken ties no longer threatens. Your worries here are in vain!
        But now we will be even more dependent on China than we were on the West. You are ready?

        And all this thanks to the skillful leadership!
        1. -22
          25 February 2023 07: 20
          It is more likely that China will be more dependent on Russia than vice versa. Once again, Russia can allow, as a last resort, a rollback to the 80s due to the technological base of the USSR and independence in terms of resources, and China is completely dependent on everything (it even now depends on Russian military technologies). If he threatens Russia, then a catastrophe of the biblical scenario will await him, and this is not about military operations, but about resources, food.
          1. +9
            25 February 2023 15: 49
            Quote: far diu
            It is more likely that China will be more dependent on Russia than vice versa.

            This is an assessment of resources, but not of the quality of management. Management is foreign , heterogeneous and absolutely incompetent .
            Russia is a huge country with a relatively small population (one and a half times less than Pakistan) in mostly uninhabitable territories. 150 million people are categorically not enough for autarky, and all integration projects are roaringly failed by the executors.
            Quote: far diu
            If he threatens Russia, then a catastrophe of the biblical scenario will await him, and this is not about military operations, but about resources, food.

            China has bought and leases huge farmland around the world and only a small part of all food imports comes to it from the Russian Federation. As well as oil. Like gas. As is aluminum. China has integrated into the global world, but now they want to lower it in the same way as the United States lowered Japan in its time (late 80s - 90s), which, at the end of the USSR, became the 2nd economy in the world ... and the USSR - 3 -to her . And for China, from the Russian Federation, it is now much more important to support our strategic nuclear forces, which China (so far) has an order of magnitude less than that of the hegemon. And the uninterrupted supply of energy resources to China in the event of a naval blockade can only be provided by the Russian Federation. So in this period of time, we involuntarily turned out to be ... "fellow travelers" (in Chinese) and "partners" (in Eref).
            Russia had and has all the opportunities and conditions to regain its former greatness, independence and self-sufficiency.
            But ... only with RESPONSIBLE, COMPLETE and GOOD-INTENTIONED leadership.
            1. +6
              26 February 2023 01: 08
              That's just China is behaving like a wise * ak noble. If you knew how in the social. networks like zhihu (an analogue of the English quora or the Russian answer mail ru), what they write about the Russian army, then you would understand everything. At the level of the Chinese elite, this squeamish attitude towards Russia is even visible. So these comrades are clearly not allies.

              The funny thing is that many here are almost ready to kiss their feet, although if you soberly assess their economy, it is like a thatched house that will not stand even a second during a storm.
              1. +6
                26 February 2023 02: 38
                The Chinese house will still be stronger than straw, but they are really VERY dependent on foreign markets. Both in terms of energy carriers and raw materials, and in terms of sales markets. And it is to protect their markets and investments abroad that they are building a huge ocean fleet. But - "The fleet is being built for a long time" - this is an axiom. Also, equivalent US strategic nuclear forces will not appear at the click of a finger.
                And while China has not found it, it is interested in Russia.
                Quote: far diu
                At the level of the Chinese elite, this squeamish attitude towards Russia is even visible.

                When the USSR was at war with Finland, many also squeamishly twisted their lips - "how this colossus cannot defeat little Finland." And the fact that there is an echeloned Mannerheim Line, swamps, lakes, rocks and huge boulders ... and besides, in WINTER. That's Hitler and dared.
                And I was wrong.
                Quote: far diu
                these comrades are clearly not allies.

                China a priori cannot be an ally, unless it is vitally and vitally interested in it. What is China interested in?
                - In the weakening of the US and Europe. Yes
                - In the capture of new markets and raw materials. Yes
                - In distracting the Anglo-Saxons for at least a few more years, while he brings his armed forces, strategic nuclear forces and fleet into sufficient condition to resist himself. Yes
                But he doesn't need allies.
                And he can't...he can't make friends, that's not part of the Chinese mentality. And they are incapable of empathy. Well, they have a feature. They don't have one.
                You just need to understand this and proceed in your own plans from this knowledge. And according to the testament of Comrade Stalin, build your Country, Economy and Civilization based on OWN forces.
                Now it has to be done already and in captivity. Just for the survival of our Country, People, Civilization.
                And China trades with us and supports us in the UN - this is a lot.
                As for the "contempt and disgust" in social networks ... so you read ours. Do they sing hosannas to Shoige and Gerasim in the comments? Or do they caress with neat epithets?
                That's it.
                And Tsar Nikola-2 in the last years of the kingdom was rinsed at every corner. And after all ON MERITS. To lose two wars in a row and to disgrace the great Empire - for this, even one Ipatiev house is not enough. ..But history is not taught in the Kremlin.
                And in vain!
                1. +2
                  26 February 2023 04: 21
                  China is also interested in weakening Russia. There is no need to create illusions here that China is only interested in the failure of the US, EU, Japan, Korea. And Russia is on this list too. And I just hope that the smart people in the government understand this, and are also interested in planting this mammoth on a resource needle and then using it in politics and the economy.

                  He does not support the UN. Only takes a neutral position. Because he doesn’t need it, stupid Ivan (I hope not stupid and this is a strategic move), after all, he will still carry resources at a close cost.
                  1. 0
                    26 February 2023 13: 37
                    Alas, all countries want the weakening of their neighbors and, in general, everyone except themselves. Let's stop repeating that banality. With the PRC, we have common global goals, so we need to look for and go through common ways to achieve them.
                2. +2
                  26 February 2023 13: 40
                  For that, he became a saint .. perhaps the icons from him are already being painted by bogomazes, earning a small penny
        2. +33
          25 February 2023 12: 16
          And all this thanks to the skillful leadership!
          Yes, our leadership has already taken the country to where Makar did not drive calves and Susanin did not know the way ...
        3. +2
          25 February 2023 16: 38
          Do you want to become Chinese? My worries? I don't have any worries at all. I live in darkness, and even a nuclear bomb will not be thrown on me - it is not advisable. Addiction does not threaten, you are right, but our mental peculiarity ... Would you like to see a Chinese man as your daughter's husband? And the French? There is a difference? I think that everyone here will choose a Frenchman. And why? Tell me I'm wrong.
          1. 0
            27 February 2023 08: 56
            Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
            I live in darkness, and even a nuclear bomb will not be thrown on me - it is not advisable.

            And they're throwing it at me. One bomb, and zvizdets to the whole city.
        4. 0
          26 February 2023 18: 29
          Quote: Stas157
          But now we will be even more dependent on China than we were on the West. You are ready?

          The political elite of Russia prefers to be in foreign dependence than in dependence on the domestic intelligentsia. Therefore, she either invests in the US economy or will now invest in Iran and China. Tajik builders receive about 40 rubles in Russia and employees in Perm educational institutions with higher education or secondary special about 000.
          1. 0
            27 February 2023 11: 36
            Quote: gsev
            Tajik builders receive about 40 rubles in Russia and employees in educational institutions of Perm with higher education or secondary special about 000.

            I'll tell you a secret, yeah - at the end of the USSR, Armenian brigades of coven workers received 5 times more university teachers - up to 1000 rubles per month.
            And even simple hard workers "limiters" (the same guest workers from the UzSSR and TadzhSSR lol ) at the AZLK and ZIL factories they received 300-350 against 150 teaching in universities ...
            So nothing new ...
            NEVER in Russia, teaching work was highly paid - neither under the tsar, not under general secretaries, not under presidents
      2. +3
        26 February 2023 13: 58
        Someone else's game leads to the catastrophe of the Russian world


        The situation continues to deteriorate. The collective West, with the support of internal Russian Vlasovites and comprador merchants, who created the anti-Russian project "Ukraine", has relied on the phased destruction of the Russian Federation, the entire Russian world. This is another "onslaught on the East" - a "crusade" of the West against Rus'-Russia. Millennial confrontation between Rus' and the East. The story itself.


        He died when Surkov was appointed responsible for this very Russian WORLD.
        Our cheers patriots are all trying to revive Byzantium, but isn't it time to forget about the third Rome and Revive the Horde 2.0.
        As a retired admiral of the Turkish Navy adviser to Erdogan said: Since the Turkic and Slavic world is vital for the survival of us in the future, individually we are not viable, but only together we are a force that everyone reckon with.
        He said one more thing, that the Ottoman Empire, that the Russian Empire is primarily about the union of Slavs and Turks. The Ottomans at the beginning of their journey relied on the Serbs and Bulgarians, that Russia at the beginning of its formation also relied on alliances with the Turks. He is very critical of the supply of weapons to 404
        1. 0
          26 February 2023 14: 38
          He is very critical of the supply of weapons to 404
          But delivers sad .
        2. 0
          27 February 2023 01: 50
          Vladislav Surkov, aka Asik (Aslanbek) is a very strange and dark type. It seems like he was born from a Chechen father, but during a divorce he remained with his mother (it is not customary for Chechens - fathers take away THEIR sons at any cost).

          He was Khodarkovsky's bodyguard, then he brazenly tried to wring out part of Menatep from him, after which Hodor kicked him out. Surkov defected to Alfa-Bank. https://www.forbes.ru/novosti-photogallery/238819-put-surkova-ot-ohrannika-do-vice-premera

          Wrote the novel "Near Zero", published earlier in the supplement to the magazine "Russian Pioneer" (the author was a certain Natan Dubovitsky, which is consonant with the name and surname of Surkov's wife).
          The novel glorifies corruption as a "pillar of society".

          On December 27, 2011, Surkov claimed that he "was among those who helped President Yeltsin effect a peaceful transition of power, among those who helped President Putin stabilize the political system."

          The only official who was openly and impudently rude to Putin right in front of the TV cameras: https://www.webcitation.org/6OuW95imC - for which he was then (a day later) "set aside". But do not forget, they gave a post.

          He is highly praised by Western diplomats, even the notorious Ambassador McFaul (in 2010, the co-chair of the working group on civil society issues, the Medvedev-Obama Commission, which was called the "Surkov-McFaul Commission", Surkov and the co-chair of the group from the American side, Michael McFaul, met in the Russian Federation and discussed the work of the commission even earlier, in October 2009.)

          And The Washington Post praised him as "the preeminent political mind of the Kremlin," which is strange for an enemy.

          He took money for Skolkov and used it to finance the opposition (through the insane amount of payment for empty lectures by Ilya Ponomarev) right before the massacre of Bolotnaya Square: https://inosmi.ru/20130523/209244206.html

          And the strangest thing: his artistic, perverted tastes. Some photos of idols on the table in the office are worth something:
          https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/1573537
          https://trinixy.ru/52358-kabinet-vladislava-surkova-23-foto.html
          What's wrong with his head?
        3. 0
          27 February 2023 13: 40
          Erdogan is a Pan-Turkist. The desires of retired generals are the desires of retired generals, nothing more. Any leader leads the country to prosperity and strives for his country, and not the union, to be on the laurels. Considering how many times Erdogan used our politicians and GDP in particular, an alliance with Turkey will not be equivalent.
    2. +20
      25 February 2023 09: 04
      It’s like waiting for something from the capitalists. They sell their mother for loot. They’ve already sold their father. Although Marx is a Russophobe, he correctly wrote that for 300% of the profit, they will sell everything that is possible and impossible. About selling everything to the West and Ukraine, with which we are at war? About the fifth column that rules in the Russian Federation? All this is ridiculous. We need SMERSH from the proletariat and peasants and new generals from the military from the front, and not "plywood marshals" and "parquet ones." Nationalization of industry, land, resources, and not surrender to godfathers for life.
      1. old
        +19
        25 February 2023 10: 33
        “At 100 percent, capital violates all human laws; at 300 percent, there is no such crime that it would not risk, at least under pain of the gallows” T. Dunning
      2. +16
        25 February 2023 12: 19
        Nationalization of industry, land, resources
        The President has already answered this question for you.
        “People of communist convictions believe that basically everything should be nationalized again, everything should be state-owned, but we are not doing this. We don't need any. We proceed from the fact that it is necessary to use the most effective tools for the development of the country, market principles.”
        Everything, the topic is closed))
        1. +20
          25 February 2023 13: 52
          All for the Front, all for the Victory

          —- In capitalist Russia, the war in Ukraine cannot be national and / or Patriotic.

          —The economy of capitalist Russia cannot be put on a war footing. The efficiency of the MIC can be improved.

          As a result: 1. in capitalist Russia, where a feast in the capitals, "Everything for the front, everything for the Victory" is impossible. 2. Despite these impossibilities, a positive outcome of the 2023 campaign is possible. 3. The war in Ukraine with these impossibilities is a multi-year one. 4. China is not a warlike nation. They know their limitations. China is counting on a victory without fighting - the best of victories! (Sun Tzu), victory by demonstration of the amount of weapons and military equipment and production power. China has a perfect zero in terms of military experience in two elements - in the air and at sea
          1. +8
            25 February 2023 21: 46
            The Chinese know how to learn very well and quickly. How long has China not had any experience in space. And now they already have their own station, fly to the moon. More recently, the Chinese saw aircraft carriers only in the movies. Now they stamp them.
        2. 0
          27 February 2023 08: 47
          The President has already answered this question for you.

          And who is the President - the king, the deputy of God, or God?! He is the head of the state, to which he was delegated by the interested sections of society, on the basis of laws that they themselves wrote and operate, but wrote in their own interests, to which the people do not belong.
          So you can write other laws and the "topic" will be open - this is a soft way: "Nationalization of industry, land, resources ...". I and no one else, I think, in Russia do not want such upheavals as 1917 and 1991, but the path that the country is following after 1991 is erroneous, destructive for the country ...
          We have a situation in our country: "the top doesn't want, the bottom can't," but something needs to be done...
    3. -1
      25 February 2023 22: 07
      Quote: Stas157
      It is difficult to disagree with the picture of reality described in the article.

      Speak for yourself, don't speak for others!

      Quote: Stas157
      And it looks like we're not playing our own game.

      It looks like you are a "spoiled Cossack"!
    4. +2
      27 February 2023 01: 28
      We (not a country, but specific people, not from the Kremlin) do not play anything at all. Plays the leader of the country. He plays very strangely, it seems that he is not going to win, he is not interested in winning the war. As if he is interested in the process itself and wants to drag it out for a long time.
      I would be happy if I was wrong in my assessments. But, on the other hand, we have been observing this for a year. If a person is afraid to call a war a war, but calls it the moronic term NWO, then this, whatever one may say, is very strange ...
      1. 0
        27 February 2023 11: 45
        Quote: PavelT
        If a person is afraid to call war a war, and

        That is, is it not strange for you that the other side ALSO does not call the war a war ????
        Think for a minute and you'll understand why....
  2. -5
    25 February 2023 04: 57
    The conflict in Ukraine is largely resolved outside its borders and not in the military sphere. The fact that an economic and social catastrophe in Europe will occur in the horizon of 2-3 years is an axiom. China's economy is larger than in the EU and the US, inflation in China is 2,3%, in the US 6,7%, in the EU 8,7. China has a trade surplus with all Western countries. The question is when will he decide to act more decisively in the financial sphere? And this is much more important for the West than Ukraine! In short, these and many other factors will begin to really act and this will immediately have an impact on the Ukrainian conflict!
    1. +18
      25 February 2023 05: 13
      Quote from Plmhj
      The conflict in Ukraine is largely resolved outside its borders and not in the military sphere.

      But they could win the war, not leading to a war of attrition.

      Quote from Plmhj
      China has a trade surplus with all Western countries. Question when he decides act more decisively

      All hope for China?
      China will help us! ...And if not?

      China is already offering us Minsk 3! The Chinese comrades do not believe in victory or are tired of waiting for this bodyaga to end.
      1. +4
        25 February 2023 07: 17
        China will help us! ...
        The West has already helped us, gave us new technologies and much more, laughing With China, everything is also relative.
      2. +18
        25 February 2023 07: 33
        Quote: Stas157
        The Chinese comrades do not believe in victory or are tired of waiting for this bodyaga to end.

        The Chinese are too pragmatic to play "believe it or not." They are trying to make the most of the situation. It seems to me that these "comrades" are up to one place with all our problems, only business and nothing personal. And this "Minsk III" from the same opera...
        1. +9
          25 February 2023 08: 23
          And this "Minsk III" from the same opera...
          Third movement, Marlezon ballet smile hi
        2. +14
          25 February 2023 12: 21
          It seems to me that these "comrades" up to one place all our problems
          China does not plan to create a united front against NATO with Russia, the Chinese Defense Ministry said. His spokesman stressed that the military ties between the two countries are the backbone of the strategic partnership. But the parties, according to him, adhere to the principle of non-participation in blocs and do not want a confrontation with anyone.
          And in Beijing, Cheng Yijun, an employee of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, urges the leadership of the state not to allow thoughts of an alliance with Russia. “Military alliances are a legacy of the Cold War and there is no legitimate need for China to become part of them. NATO was created to counter the USSR, not China. And so far, this organization has not harmed China's fundamental interests."
          In this world, it's every man for himself, in other words...
          1. +4
            25 February 2023 13: 22
            NATO was created to counter the USSR, not China. And so far, this organization has not harmed China's fundamental interests."
            In this world, it's every man for himself, in other words...
            China will be next on the list, will not sit out. If Russia loses, it will be torn to pieces, between the West and China, enough for 100-200 years, then war again. The history of fools does not teach anything ...
          2. +1
            26 February 2023 00: 21
            Quote: not the one
            “Military alliances are a legacy of the Cold War and there is no legitimate need for China to become part of them. NATO was created to counter the USSR, not China. And so far, this organization has not harmed China's fundamental interests."

            That is why NATO sends its ships to the East China Sea. There is no alliance and China is next to be devoured.
      3. +1
        26 February 2023 18: 38
        Quote: Stas157
        China is already offering us Minsk 3! The Chinese comrades do not believe in victory or are tired of waiting for this bodyaga to end.

        The United States does not accept Chinese interference in European affairs. The fact that the PRC proposed its own plan for a political solution to the Tossia-NATO conflict in Ukraine testifies to the PRC's readiness to throw its weight into the scales of this confrontation. In part, the Chinese have already received preferences from this political act. Zelensky expressed his readiness to directly engage in dialogue with the Chinese on issues of interest to the PRC. That is, the probing of the Chinese did not allow any players in the world to dismiss the proposals of the Chinese. Putin will apparently now have to stop investing in Western investment projects and switch to joint projects with China, Iran and North Korea. So far, the events in Ukraine have not given the United States a chance to play either the Tibetan or Xinjiang card. Although in the fall of 2014, the West began to fuss in defense of the rights of terrorists in Xinjiang.
    2. -14
      25 February 2023 05: 37
      But Ukrainians are still not good people (censored) ... Damn, arrange this for us. May their children be cursed forever and ever.
      1. +5
        25 February 2023 18: 10
        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
        But Ukrainians are still not good people (censored) ... Damn, arrange this for us. May their children be cursed forever and ever.
        You need to drink less and everything will gradually work out for you! winked
    3. +9
      25 February 2023 07: 41
      China's economy is larger than the EU and US


      More than the EU and less than the US ($18 trillion China versus $25 trillion US), but that doesn't matter, as China's economy depends a little less than entirely on the west, Russia. I cannot understand people who believe in the power of this jade rod. China is just a colossus with feet of clay.
      1. +6
        25 February 2023 12: 48
        Quote: far diu
        More than the EU and less than the US ($18 trillion China versus $25 trillion US), but that doesn't matter, as China's economy depends a little less than entirely on the west, Russia. I cannot understand people who believe in the power of this jade rod. China is just a colossus with feet of clay.

        In terms of GDP PPP, China has long surpassed the United States, China has 30 trillion, and the United States has 25 trillion. And the dynamics are not in favor of the United States, the gap is widening. Still, GDP at PPP is a more objective indicator. If a worker in the US earns 2 times more, this does not mean that he produces 2 times more services (products) than a similar worker in China.
        1. +6
          25 February 2023 13: 44
          The power of the economy, as is customary among economists, is estimated at face value, and PPP is used in per capita assessment, as it reflects the level of consumption, but in the global market, the face value is more important. Of course, to evaluate the economy only by GDP nominal value - only idiots will do (you need to take into account the level of profitability of companies, the debt burden on interest, net assets and liabilities, unemployment, inflation, productivity growth ...).
          China's dependence is not going anywhere. Let there be at least 50 trillion dollars, but if these 50 trillion are provided at the expense of external rivals in the form of resources, technologies, food, then this does not make sense. This is from the category: the larger the cabinet, the louder it falls.
          1. +3
            25 February 2023 16: 25
            Quote: far diu
            The power of the economy, as is customary among economists, is estimated at face value, and PPP is used in per capita assessment, as it reflects the level of consumption, but in the global market, the face value is more important.

            In terms of GDP, I do not agree, and I gave you a relevant example. Not just like that, they began to develop methods for calculating GDP at PPP. As for the dependence, I partially agree, but it is mutual. The mentality of the Chinese population will make it easy to give up Western goodies if China's pride is hurt, and the party asks. And the loss of such a market is very painful, nothing can replace it.
            1. +2
              25 February 2023 21: 51
              I write again that not a single normal economist uses PPP as one of the main indicators of the economy when assessing the country's economy. Denomination uses. For fans of China, I will even say that China itself looks at nominal GDP, and not at PPP GDP. As for the efficiency of the Chinese economy, starting with the fact that they inflated their GDP due to the unprofitable construction of cities, which now hang on the balance sheet and which need to be serviced constantly, and ending with the fact that the profitability of Chinese companies is only 3-5% (the United States has this an indicator of 13-15%, but better in China than in the EU where 1-3%). Labor productivity has not increased since 2008. The debt burden is almost 3 times larger than the United States, despite the fact that China's economy is lower in nominal terms (they have a total debt of 320% of GDP, while in the United States it is 280%, but debt servicing, if in the United States is almost 7% of GDP, then in China to almost 20% of GDP). Therefore, GDP growth of at least 6% per year is important for them (and according to the results for last year, they drew 3% for themselves with difficulty). Their consumer demand has also been falling since the late 00s, so they are still dependent on exports and imports (China's consumer market of GDP is 30%, while in the US this figure is 70%). And ahead of them is a demographic crisis that will directly affect their economies.

              Dependence of the West on China in factories? Well, this can be urgently resolved in 3-5 years, if necessary (the US government will directly create a dialogue with business to coordinate actions, as it was in World War 2). They will transfer production to themselves, and low value added to Southeast Asia.
              What about China? - And China will sit with a bare booty without technology, but that's okay. He will sit without resources and food. For such a time, Russia, with all its desires, will not be able to replace the United States, Canada, and Australia with resources and food. In 15-20 years it is possible, but not in 5 years (at least in 10 years, if China itself builds everything in Russia for itself). As a result, such problems will begin in China, it will even be scary to imagine what this could lead to.

              Of course, it will not be so radical, but the trend is visible and China is beginning to be abandoned.

              Dependence is clearly not in favor of China. As it was a colony of the ''West'', it remains for another 10-20 years and this is at least, only in 10-20 years it will be a colony not of the West, but of Russia, which will provide it with basic needs.
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              2. -1
                26 February 2023 08: 40
                but in 10-20 years it will be a colony not of the West, but of Russia

                oh, how you all "chocolate" came up with whether Russia will be in 10 years, that's what worries me!
                1. 0
                  26 February 2023 10: 29
                  I would rather bet on China that it will not be in 10 years. Russia will be, it will not be possible only ''effective managers''
              3. +1
                26 February 2023 15: 43
                Quote: far diu
                I write again that not a single normal economist uses PPP as one of the main indicators of the economy when assessing the country's economy. Denomination uses.

                I don’t even know what kind of economists you are talking about, apparently the IMF and the WB are fools and every year, along with the nominal value, for some reason they calculate GDP PPP. Nominal GDP does not take into account the cost of goods and services in different countries, this is clear even to a schoolboy. This is more a conversation about the amount of money in the economy, which does not directly reflect its volume. If New York City's filthy subways are three times more expensive than Beijing's or Shanghai's wonderful subways, then it's the same service rendered, but at the same time it will be reflected in US GDP 3 times more expensive than in China's GDP. And the service sector in the structure of US GDP is 80% (industry is less than 18,5%), and all these services are many times more expensive. China's GDP structure is not so bad:

                Dependence of the West on China in factories? Well, this can be urgently resolved in 3-5 years, if necessary (the US government will directly create a dialogue with business to coordinate actions, as it was in World War 2). They will transfer production to themselves, and low value added to Southeast Asia.

                No one will transfer anything anywhere, China also knows how to talk to business and introduce strict regulation measures. The huge production facilities and infrastructure built in recent years will not go anywhere and will serve the Chinese for decades to come.
                1. -1
                  26 February 2023 17: 24
                  There is such a thing as a post-industrial economy. This is when the economy focuses on an innovative product and education. This is a phenomenon for developed countries. and in the post-industrial economy, the share of the service sector is growing.

                  To date, there are 3 phases: the agrarian stage, in which the countries of Africa are located mainly. The industrial stage, where, for example, China is now located. And post-industrial society - USA, UK, Singapore, Hong Kong. And China, by the way, strives to enter this category.
                  This is the base you need to know.
                  Now, with the growing popularity of automation in the US, which is the next industrial revolution, it is quite possible that the share of industry will grow in the economy, because the cost of producing goods and services with low added value is declining and I would not be surprised if in 2030, even knitting factories will be in the US (a controversial point in terms of the growth of the share of industry, because the automation of the production of goods and services is, in fact, also a B2B service or business for business). But this is under conditions if their ideological restructuring does not break down and cause a civil war (to be honest, the chances are very small, but they exist)

                  The IMF is not stupid. None of the normal economists look at the overall PPP, because we are not talking about consumption, but about the power of the economy purely in numbers. If this is super difficult to understand, then we will not find a common language.
                  1. +2
                    26 February 2023 18: 04
                    Quote: far diu
                    None of the normal economists looks at the overall PPP, because we are not talking about consumption, but about the power of the economy purely in numbers

                    So I'm talking about this to you, and you have gone aside. I showed you on my fingers that the reason for the large nominal GDP of the United States is that 80% of this GDP is services that are many times more expensive than in China. Accordingly, the nominal GDP does not objectively reflect the "power" of the economy, the volume of services and goods in different countries may be the same, but due to the difference in prices, GDP may differ significantly (in proportion to this difference). That is why economists began to use GDP PPP as a more objective indicator. And you started telling me about phases and stages. Let's stay with our hi
                    1. 0
                      26 February 2023 18: 08
                      That is why economists began to use GDP PPP as a more objective indicator. And you started telling me about phases and stages. Let's stay with our

                      OK. I would answer, but I will refrain. Let's stay on our own.)
          2. 0
            27 February 2023 01: 56
            The US is also dependent on China.
            There have already been two funny stories: when the next US Secretary of Defense decided to put all types of troops in berets (it turned out that berets are ordered in China) and when China decided to scare the world with an embargo on rare earth elements.
            And in the meantime, you can see how many tools (from manual to electric) China makes for the United States, how easily and with impunity the Chinese steal technology from the United States. One old scandal with drawings of W-76 warheads for the Trident-2 missile is worth something!
            1. 0
              27 February 2023 06: 38
              China is in the final assembly stage of everything, but it does not control the entire production chain. Maybe with berets this is the case, but medium and high-tech production is not. The joke is that the entire production cycle of almost everything can only be created by the United States at the national level, and now this process is going on as the cost of production decreases.

              They steal and get hard for it now, and apparently China will be pressed more and more.
      2. +1
        26 February 2023 18: 45
        Quote: far diu
        China is just a colossus with feet of clay.

        By the way, the rapid development of machine tool building and washing machine building in China began only 15 years ago. It wasn't until Pelosi's visit to Taiwan that the Chinese realized the importance of backlog problems in electronics manufacturing. China needs 5 years to develop to such an extent that it will be afraid of NATO. Perhaps that is why the PRC is interested in dragging out the conflict in Ukraine without the defeat of Russia.
        1. -1
          26 February 2023 19: 14
          But in the United States, the position towards China has hardly changed. Even the observation and action of him increased significantly.

          China needs 5 years to develop to such an extent that it will be afraid of NATO.


          Rather, 15-20 years, but he doesn’t have this time. And then the demographic factor plays a huge role, but for some reason we don’t take it into account, although the correlation is significant.

          Perhaps that is why China is interested in dragging out the conflict in Ukraine without the defeat of Russia


          Of course, he is not interested in the defeat of Russia, but he is interested in the subjugation of Russia. The problem for China is that it didn’t work very well for China itself, because the US attention to China is even greater than to Ukraine and Russia after the fall of 2022.
  3. -15
    25 February 2023 05: 08
    A typical example is not analysis, but slogans. I'll give an example:
    discontent of the pro-Western elite, intra-elite conflict. Which leads either to a palace coup, or to the organization of unrest;

    Author, you already have the top - "pro-Western", then what kind of coup?
    Just unfounded, unsubstantiated hodgepodge.
    The West is ready for a long slaughter.

    And what kind of questions are there with the presence of banal shells? What about the inability to switch to China? What about the degradation and outflow of European industry? Where did the thousands of demonstrations in London and Paris come from? Why did presidential candidate Trump put US war fatigue at the heart of the program?! And so on.
    It is necessary to substantiate the statements, and not to mold "I said - it's so!"
    1. +15
      25 February 2023 05: 25
      Quote from Bingo
      Just unfounded, unsubstantiated hodgepodge.

      I would say the same about all your comments.
      1. +12
        25 February 2023 12: 24
        "all yours" must be borne in mind the plural - this applies to all "guardians-justifiers")))
    2. -5
      26 February 2023 16: 04
      And what kind of questions are there with the presence of banal shells? What about the inability to switch to China? What about the degradation and outflow of European industry? Where did the thousands of demonstrations in London and Paris come from? Why did presidential candidate Trump put US war fatigue at the heart of the program?! And so on.


      I support your position.
      Practically no one will answer your questions here, since these questions cast doubt on their "suffered for many years" position. And this position fits in a simple statement: "Putinsleal."
  4. +16
    25 February 2023 05: 16
    The author is a little pompous, but the general meaning is correct. And the last days clearly did not add optimism .... The major Russian offensive, which was talked about for so long, did not take place, Mr. Putin's speech regarding which there were so many expectations ended simply with nothing - none of the 4 key issues (recognition of the Zelensky government, legal the status of the SVO, the personnel issue, and the issue of goal-setting the operation) were not even raised.
    That is, everything remains unchanged .... And now it is even difficult to determine any perspective ...
    The last remaining strategy is to sit on the defensive, prepare to repel an offensive in May, and then seek to exploit the enemy's only weak point - a limited amount of cannon fodder. That is, strive to deplete the enemy's mobilization potential.
    A highly dubious, frankly, strategy, but nothing else is visible ...
    1. +15
      25 February 2023 07: 27
      I agree with everything with you, except for the expectations from the message of someone - it’s already clear to everyone that this is just empty chatter (it’s amazing how Fom, vciom, levada continue the fairy tale with 80% support - apparently the towers made such an order, i.e. continue to live in parallel reality)
      P.S. What do you think events will develop in the event of a successful offensive on the edge of the Crimea?
      1. +13
        25 February 2023 12: 33
        it's amazing how Fom, vciom, levada continue the fairy tale by 80%
        Our care is simple,
        Our concern is such
        It would be written everywhere 70%
        And there are no other worries)))
      2. +13
        25 February 2023 15: 11
        Quote: Vladimir80
        except for the expectations from the message of someone - it is already clear to everyone that this is just empty chatter

        Well, Putin and people personally connected with him must have an instinct for self-preservation ..... But for now, alas, at zero .. It's hard to say what this can be connected with, perhaps the logic in the style of Louis 15 - "even a flood after us", but on my age is enough ... In the end, it is always possible to agree on maintaining power in the Russian Federation with the West, ala S. Hussein after 1991.
        Quote: Vladimir80
        it's amazing how Fom, vciom, levada continue the fairy tale with 80% support

        This is just the norm. Such "polls" are done like this - a call from the AP, an introductory with ready-made figures - the results of an "independent" poll. So there will be full approval until the last day.
        Quote: Vladimir80
        P.S. What do you think events will develop in the event of a successful offensive on the edge of the Crimea?

        Well, before the attack on the Crimea is still far away. First, a cutting blow to Berdyansk, and it’s not at all a fact that it will end successfully, ours are preparing for defense and defending is much easier than attacking.
        Then blow to the border of Crimea. Then a pause and probably a blow in the north of the Lugansk region. And only then the Crimea, but the Donbass at the very end.
        What will our authorities do? Considering how amazing these people are, it's even hard to imagine ..
        Most likely, they will announce mobilization, they will threaten nuclear weapons, and they will try to protect the Crimea.
    2. +3
      25 February 2023 08: 32
      A highly dubious, frankly, strategy, but nothing else is visible ...
      "But for now, you can't see the light from anywhere" (c) From the word at all. The farther into the forest, the more firewood and the steeper the porridge.
    3. +2
      25 February 2023 13: 37
      I agree with the author. A war of attrition will lead to disastrous results for us. The leadership cannot explain the goals and tasks to people. But you have to tighten your belts, and not everyone will understand it. .
      1. 0
        27 February 2023 09: 57
        villagers, experienced and not so

        I myself am a rural resident in the past, and now from time to time I go to the countryside - and so, there are no longer villages in the sense that was under the USSR, in the days of the USSR every resident kept at least one cow, sheep, different birds, and now even chickens are rarely kept, they buy chickens, eggs, milk in stores, there are those who even grow little in the garden ...
        So, I would not console myself with the fact that "the villagers experienced something else" ....
  5. G17
    +25
    25 February 2023 05: 45
    Our main problem is the "fifth column" in the military-political leadership of the country, which harms us a hundred times more than the enemy at the front and on international platforms like the UN. Under the guise of talk about Russia's resilience in the face of war and Western sanctions, she continues to run the country and the economy through China's torturous "thousand cuts" execution. The problem of betrayal in the rear is superimposed on the problem of a rotten political system and a corrupt and inefficient administrative apparatus.

    The Russian world has already three times expressed its readiness to rally around the figure of the incumbent president (in 2000, 2014 and 2022) to correct the abnormal situation in the state, economy, army, to support the strategy of a worthy present and a brighter future. However, for 23 years, the president and his team have failed to offer anything but the total impoverishment and extinction of the people, stealing five years of life from tens of millions of people before retirement, turning Russia into a gateway for migrants. Not once, over the past 5 years, have we been told the strategic course of the country, except for the actual transformation of it into a raw material appendage of the West to enrich the class of oligarchs and officials.

    And even when the Third World War began on February 24, 2022, everything remained the same. Half-measures and populist statements continue to flow in the absence of real attempts to improve the country and society. There is no talk of creating the State Defense Committee (GKO), which is necessary for governing the country during the war period, nothing is heard about mobilizing the economy and transferring it to planned tracks, which will make it possible to much more effectively distribute the available resources for organizing the military industry, reviving the countryside and providing food and social security of the army and the population.

    Instead, we see the failure of the blitzkrieg at the front and the transition of the confrontation to the phase of a positional war with rare "toad jumps", accompanied by heavy losses and total destruction of Russian cities and villages in the Donbass, Kherson region, Kharkov, Belgorod, Kursk and other regions.

    Instead of proclaiming the policy "The Fatherland is in danger!" began shameful for the honor of the country and the army negotiations with the Ukrainian fascists in Istanbul, grain deals with the sworn enemy, a sharp increase in the sale to the West (through Chinese, Indian and Turkish intermediaries) of Russian raw materials, energy resources, gold, rare metals, gas and oil. One gets the strong impression that the "fifth column" in Russia is organizing a total sale of everything and everything in order to provide the West with Russian resources for the so-called "transitional period", when they will arrange a new "February 1917" in Russia and the country for several years due to Troubles and civil war will fall out of the world economic system.

    Exhausted by expectations, society and the army hoped very much that at least in the message to the Federal Assembly in 2023, President Putin would announce the measures necessary for victory or unite Russia and Belarus into a single state. It all came down to gratitude for the stamina and moral condemnation of the traitors, as well as new promises to throw some money to some categories of those in need. At the same time, in order to implement this support, in the conditions of a sharp drop in income from the raw material model of the economy, the people are again being robbed through rising prices, inflation, housing and communal services tariffs, fines and taxes. The President is resolutely not going to lift Russia into the last and decisive battle, thereby leaving the country in a strategic impasse.

    And the enemy, convinced of the inability and unwillingness of the military-political leadership of the Russian Federation to face the truth and resist aggression, raises the stakes. If in 2014 and even at the beginning of 2022 he was terribly afraid to supply heavy weapons to Bandera Ukraine, now the deliveries are emphatically open and brazen - tanks, air defense systems, aircraft, weapons and ammunition.

    At the same time, the enemy constantly puts pressure on Russia's sore points - periodically blockading the Kaliningrad region, preparing to seize Transnistria and Western Ukraine, preparing to overthrow or kill Lukashenka in order to neutralize Belarus, which President Putin has failed to reunite with his historical homeland for 23 years. Our peacekeepers in Karabakh, Syria and Tajikistan are in a very difficult situation. The globalists are again preparing to set fire to Central Asia in order to open the Second Front and bring down a multi-million horde of migrants on Russia, which will finally blow up the already fragile national and socio-economic situation in the country.

    A place in The Hague has already been prepared for Putin personally. And the "Western partners" are not particularly concerned about the nuclear potential of Russia, which they plan to neutralize with a palace coup. And as soon as it happens, there is no doubt that NATO will begin intervention in Russia under the guise of a "peacekeeping" operation. Together with the "fifth column" inside the country, they will try to immediately take the situation under control, without repeating the mistakes of the Civil War and foreign intervention of 1918-1922. No other scenarios, unfortunately, are currently visible.

    What to do? The events of the "Russian Spring" of 2014 showed that even in the conditions of the Troubles and the collapse of statehood, the Russian people are able to independently nominate bright and original leaders. On our side are the personnel and a significant part of the officer corps of the army and navy, for whom serving the Fatherland and the people is the meaning of life. In addition, the West is now experiencing a serious civilizational crisis, which it intends to resolve, including at the expense of Russia. But this same crisis gives us a geopolitical chance to survive, as already happened during the Time of Troubles at the beginning of the XNUMXth and XNUMXth centuries. And not only to survive, but also to unite the Russian lands of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus into a single Power,
    1. -19
      25 February 2023 06: 27
      Our main problem is the "fifth column" in the military-political leadership of the country

      Only not in the leadership, but on the ground. You can ask everyone - what did you do to support our guys? If there is no evidence, checks for the purchase of armor and winter camouflage, batteries for UAVs, this is the real fifth column. Eviction with confiscation

      You need to start from the very bottom and wool everyone, the business is also small and medium, these will sell everyone for 300% profit. Here they need to shake and ask
      1. +18
        25 February 2023 12: 25
        You need to start from the bottom
        I disagree. The fish rots from the head.
      2. -7
        25 February 2023 16: 52
        Not on the ground, but even lower. Work at the deep establishment level. You support your own, but did nothing, but only tried on the Internet, which means you will fall into the caring hands of Mr. Prigogine. Then the universal harmony will come.
    2. +3
      25 February 2023 08: 35
      Our main problem is the "fifth column" in the military-political leadership of the country
      The "fifth column", in Spain, was formed on the initiative of General Franco, in our country, on whose initiative was the "creative" movement of the masses formed? smile
    3. +9
      25 February 2023 08: 46
      "On our side are the personnel and a significant part of the officer corps of the army and navy ..." Remind me, please, where is this officer corps now, and what are the results of its activities? Not in the 4th paragraph of your speech?
    4. +12
      25 February 2023 12: 20
      Our main problem is the "fifth column" in the country's military-political leadership...

      And further on the text of the commentary.
      Dear colleague, powerful! hi
      And here is the beginning of the article:
      The situation continues to deteriorate. The collective West, with the support of internal Russian Vlasovites and comprador merchants, who created the anti-Russian project "Ukraine", has relied on the phased destruction of the Russian Federation, the entire Russian world.

      In this regard, I remembered the famous film "Mars Attacks!"
      Help us destroy your world!
      And our fifth column readily answers:
      - Let's help!
      How is it shown?
      Well, here's one example.
      The head of the Central Bank, Nabiullina, is worried and sullenly indignant at the fact that either in December last year, or in January of this year, an unprecedented capital flight of more than $ 200 billion occurred from the country. But didn’t this happen at the suggestion of the Central Bank? The same one that allowed all foreign exchange earnings to be gradually, in an ever-increasing volume, left abroad not only by Gazprom, but also by agricultural producers? And, one must think, a lot of other things. As a result, in 2025, all of Gazprom's foreign exchange earnings will remain abroad. And then the accounts of "our everything" will simply be arrested.
      And so in everything.
      But we still don't know much.
      1. +1
        25 February 2023 20: 48
        Quote: depressant
        And our fifth column readily answers:
        - Let's help!

        Is that right? *Fifth column*? In my opinion, the person given as an example draws to a slightly different level. No? Fifth, it’s so ... something in between. Well, above average. But Gazprom, the Central Bank and so on? sorry major league! laughing
    5. +6
      25 February 2023 17: 42
      I completely agree. Clearer and do not say
    6. +10
      25 February 2023 18: 29
      "fifth column" in the military-political leadership

      More precisely, the compradors are merchants and determine the policy of the country, and the GDP is their chairman. The oligarchs periodically gather in the Kremlin to resolve issues and agreements.


      Oligarchs are even awarded some kind of medals.
    7. -1
      26 February 2023 15: 53
      Our main problem is the "fifth column"
      Can you name the names of those who are part of the "fifth column"?
      1. 0
        27 February 2023 13: 18
        who is in the "fifth column"

        Here you don’t need to name names, the system itself, the leadership of the country itself, built by the President, is the “fifth column”, which is aimed at serving the needs of internal and external capital, but in no way at the development of the country, otherwise for the period during which he is at the helm, and having those opportunities in financing, it would be possible to build and organize the production of any product in the country, make the country self-sufficient, and the population the most prosperous ... And so, what we have is what we have, wherever you look, there is a hole everywhere and fraud, and we live in the liberal paradigm: "... We need to buy" ...
  6. +11
    25 February 2023 05: 46
    And how far does the Russian world extend in the eyes of our people? For some, these are visions to the Donbass, for others, much further. And how do most countries see it? They see him in the documents signed by Yeltsin in 1991. And this is how our closest neighbors see the Russian world. Iran and China. We can ignore all of this. But then there will be no business with China. Communication will continue, but in some way there will be a strained relationship. Namely, in the affairs of China and Europe. Blockages since 1991 do not want to see. But still you have to.
    1. +12
      25 February 2023 08: 21
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      Blockages since 1991 do not want to see

      Why don't they want to? They see, realize, remember perfectly, moreover, they say that "everything was right and they are not going to change anything" ...
      1. +16
        25 February 2023 12: 29
        nothing is going to change
        This is what is most depressing .. They are doing well, why do they need any changes there.
  7. +6
    25 February 2023 06: 18
    And I have a different point of view, a little more optimistic, but pessimistic in the long term. I will go very far, but gradually I will move on to the point. Let's take 4 centers of power: the USA and other true Anglo-Saxon allies, the EU, Russia, China. There is no single West, there are Anglo-Saxons, the EU, Japan, Korea, Taiwan. Multipolar world in fact. It is now obvious to almost everyone that everything is moving towards deglobalization. It was started by the United States itself during the invasion of Iraq in 2003, when many countries in Europe and Asia began to condemn the States. Then the downward trend of investment in industry in the United States ended, and since then only growth, and especially in recent years. Under Trump, it became obvious that the world is moving towards deglobalization, because those. progress does not stand still and the cost of goods and services is decreasing every year.

    Now to the point. The United States accounts for about 70-80% of the global share of high technologies (tech, big tech, pharma, software, AI, aerospace) and this share has been growing for 20 years due to a decrease in the share of the EU and Japan. This means that the United States has technological independence and, due to this, can move within this decade to a new industrial revolution, the basis of which will be the automation of the production of goods and services.
    In terms of resources, the USA, Canada, Australia also have complete independence. Rare earths that the US doesn't have, Australia has, and possibly Canada.
    In food, there is also complete independence.
    The demographic pyramid in the USA, Canada, Australia is also excellent due to migrants. The point of no return will be at least 30 years from now, but it won't matter in 10 years when the economy is automated. By the way, of the large developed countries, only France has the same demographic pyramid, but there is a source of migrants of a completely different culture and religion.
    The problem is only in the form of an ideological crisis of this decade, which is unlikely, but it cannot be ruled out that it will lead to a civil war. Now they are adopting an isolationist policy to resolve their internal contradictions. With a very high probability, this issue will be solved by technology

    In terms of technology, the EU is mainly at the 4th stage of the technological order (there was an attempt to move to the 5th order, but the USA took this attempt). In general, the middle-level industry is well developed. There are companies such as ASML, ARM, which are the most important link in high technology and the United States has no alternatives, but sooner or later they will come under the control of American companies or even move to the United States. Also, the dependence of the EU on the US, Japan, Korea, Taiwan is much greater than that of these countries on the EU itself.
    In terms of resources, there is also a huge dependence on the Russian Federation, the United States, and Arab countries.
    In food independence.
    The demographic pyramid in half of the countries such as Germany, Greece, Italy, Spain, the point of no return has already been passed. Only great in France.
    There has been no ideology at all since the creation of the EU, and they don’t even try to create it.
    In this case, the chance of the EU disappearing is very high. But the problem doesn't end there. After the EU, many countries will have even more problems, especially Germany, which depends on trade both in the EU and in the world. It will be easier for France among the EU countries due to their developed nuclear energy, but even she will be hurt. It is quite possible that as a result of Europe, the standard of living will fall to the world average and it will not have any power in the world.

    China is very dependent on high technology, primarily from the United States, and secondly from Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and the EU.
    There is also a huge dependence on resources. He imports 70-80% from the USA, Russia, Canada, Australia.
    In food, too, total dependence on the United States, Russia, Canada.
    The demographic pyramid due to the one-child policy will pass the point of no return in a maximum of 5 years. Worse except that only in Japan. The problem is that Japan has been a developed country for a long time, and due to this, it still maintains the economy at the level of stagnation, while China is still a developing country.
    Xi is trying to create an ideology based on Chinese nationalism, but he is very bad at it. As a result, complete dependence on global trade and globalization in general, and if the process of de-globalization starts to accelerate, then the entire Chinese economy, which has become the 2nd in the world due to global trade, will collapse instantly.

    Well, now let's move on to Russia. The technologies of the Russian Federation are mainly based on the USSR, but in particular cases, progress until the 00s. In terms of high technology, complete dependence. In terms of resources, complete independence. The Russian Federation in this regard is like the USA, Canada, Australia combined.
    In food, too, complete independence. Yes, Russia imports some seeds, but this is not critical.
    In terms of the idea, it is still unclear, but most likely there is an emphasis purely on Russian culture. Western culture has now ceased to matter even to the elite.
    The main problem is the demographic pyramid. From the beginning of the 90s, the birth rate was much lower than in the 80s and earlier. There is no way to fix this hole. Even now, the birth rate is low and is likely to remain the same. The point of no return is predicted to be in 5 years, but these forecasts were in 2021. Now the situation is even worse. If it goes on like this, the population of Russia will decrease by 2050% by 30 and by the middle of this century there will be the main blow of the aging population, and by 2100 it will decrease by 2 times.
    The result is that Russia is sufficiently sovereign. In an extreme case, the country will be able to provide itself with basic needs (electricity, food, hot water, heating, industry as in the USSR).

    From this, I conclude that deglobalization, and in general almost all the processes of this decade, are causing damage primarily to China and the EU. RF from this is not cold and not hot. That during globalism the country did not move to the level of the core in the world-system, that during deglobalization the country does not lose much, and against the background of the rest, one can even say that it occupies a good position, after the States and their allies.

    Separately, I note that with deglobalization, chaos will come in the world and there will be a huge number of local wars and disruption of supply chains, which will lead to shortages. Small countries that are vulnerable in everything will lose from this, and they will rather have to choose a side among large countries.
    1. +3
      25 February 2023 08: 52
      Quote: far diu
      Multipolar world in fact. It is now obvious to almost everyone that everything is moving towards deglobalization.

      Yes Yes. It is enough to look at the statistics on scientific developments / patents, industrial production, GDP figures, financial turnover, defense budgets and the military-industrial complex, as it becomes very clear how "multipolar" it is ... No four or more global centers of influence, the USA and China anyway subdue everything. And if something does not work out for them, then it is only a matter of time and resources.

      Quote: far diu
      In an extreme case, the country will be able to provide itself with basic needs (electricity, food, hot water, heating, industry as in the USSR).

      All this requires technology. And technology is not yesterday. Resources "go" to the far north and the shelf, electricity is a cluster of technologies, not to mention industry. Modern agriculture is again modern technology. A combine in the 21st century is not at all a DT40 ...
      And for the development of technology everywhere you need: education / science, industrial development and people ...
      Quote: far diu
      China is still a developing country.

      And it continues to evolve...
      Quote: far diu
      Xi is trying to create an ideology based on Chinese nationalism, but he is very bad at it.

      On what is such a judgment based?
      Chinese nationalism is one of the strongest (oldest) in the world. In my opinion, in the last couple of decades, we have seen it rise rather than fade.

      Quote: far diu
      Separately, I note that with deglobalization, chaos will come in the world and there will be a huge number of local wars and disruption of supply chains, which will lead to shortages. Small countries will lose from this

      And the same giants will again be in the black - the USA and China ...
      1. +3
        25 February 2023 09: 09
        The Russian Federation has a greater advantage than the PRC., no matter how you like it, but this is a fact. There is no point in China's 18 trillion dollars of GDP if there is a total dependence on enemies (USA with allies, EU, Japan, Korea). All of China's success has come from global trade, and now that trade is phasing out. I personally believe that now China is at the peak of opportunity. Then he will only fall, and cruelly. This can be seen in all key indicators.
        1. +2
          25 February 2023 11: 29
          Quote: far diu
          no matter how you like it

          It doesn't matter what anyone likes or dislikes. Objectivity on this...

          Quote: far diu
          The Russian Federation has a greater advantage than the PRC.

          It has advantages, of course, due to the availability of its own resources and endless expanses, but the one who is "on the cutting edge of technology" will always have more opportunities.

          Quote: far diu
          There is no point in China's 18 trillion dollars of GDP if there is a total dependence on enemies

          So the Chinese 18 trillion. - these are not those "sucked from the finger" trillions of exchange games of Western economies, but mainly the real sector, live industrial production.

          Quote: far diu
          All of China's success has come from global trade.

          Yes, but is it a defect? For me, this is such a good advantage - to ride the trade routes, own the markets, get huge profits, invest it profitably. Everywhere corporations have been fighting to the death for markets for their products for more than a hundred years, and at one time China was almost given these markets ...

          Quote: far diu
          now this trade is being phased out.

          Estesstvenno collapses, against the backdrop of confrontation.
          Of course, you can replace Chinese goods. The whole question is time, price and result. And you also need to understand that the truly gigantic Chinese industrial flywheel will not sit back and wait until it becomes a failure. How will China respond? Competitive fight! And who will win it, that's the question ...

          Quote: far diu
          I personally believe that now China is at the peak of opportunity.

          Not far. Even in the industrial sector, not to mention scientific/technological. China is developing. Such a colossus cannot simply be picked up and stopped. Size matters. Globalism is playing a cruel joke on the Americans as well. Too much has been handed over to the industrious Chinese worker...

          Quote: far diu
          This can be seen in all key indicators.

          According to the main indicators, it is clear that all the economies of the world are sinking, but the Chinese one is slightly smaller than the others, with the condition of the initial positions, paradoxically, the Chinese economy in the recession becomes even stronger ... in comparison with others.
          1. +5
            25 February 2023 11: 37
            Fine. I don't like to argue with China fans. In short, in 7 years we will see what it will turn into. I have no desire to explain 100 times.
            1. +1
              25 February 2023 11: 57
              Quote: far diu
              I don't like to argue with China fans.

              Not a fan of China at all, just such objectivity.

              Quote: far diu
              In short, in 7 years we will see what it will turn into.

              I would like to take a glimpse of what will happen to our country, of which I was and remain a fan ...
              1. +6
                25 February 2023 12: 32
                it's just objectivity.


                Yep, maybe 10 years ago. Times have changed and I have already explained what this means for China.

                I would like to have a glimpse of what will happen to our country, of which I was and remain a fan.


                Much better than the EU and China. In fact, it's a shame that the EU has given itself under the control of the United States. The best solution for them would be an alliance with Russia, but apparently not fate.
        2. 0
          26 February 2023 18: 54
          Quote: far diu
          The Russian Federation has a greater advantage than the PRC., no matter how you like it, but this is a fact.

          All these hypothetical advantages are leveled by the fact that in the PRC, a scientist and designer are respected people and often a Chinese choose between re-election for a second term as mayor of a multi-million city and a career as a teacher at a university decides by leaving the post of mayor in science from which a person was cut off for 4 years.
    2. +2
      27 February 2023 03: 12
      Very interesting and insightful analysis.
      I have a few objections:
      1. "... deglobalization was started by the United States itself during the invasion of Iraq in 2003," - there was no such goal and they did not invade for this (it was just necessary to punish Iraq for trading oil not for $ and at the same time take the soul for 9 /11 that the Saudis arranged, but at the same time they continued to sell oil for $, observing the secret deal of the summer of 1974, and therefore they cannot be beaten!)

      2. "The United States has technological independence and due to this, it can switch over this decade to a new industrial revolution" - this has been said for 25-30 years, but there is no clear and visible revolution. It’s just that it’s either not profitable (it’s easier to turn money on the stock exchange in derivatives, offshore, in banks, in the Fed’s machinations - in the USA, the financial sector is simply TOTALLY more interesting and profitable than real production!) Or there isn’t enough money for it, or something else not ready...

      3.
      The problem is only in the form of an ideological crisis of this decade, which is unlikely, but it cannot be ruled out that it will lead to a civil war.
      - absolutely right! and the crisis is not solved by any technical revolutions (they will stupidly not give money for them in an unstable country!) More on ideology below.

      4. China: "In food, too, total dependence on the United States, Russia, Canada." - there's no such thing. They will last 5-10 years without them (they will find others), and besides, it cannot be that all these 3 countries immediately stop importing food.

      5. "Xi is trying to create an ideology based on Chinese nationalism, but he is very bad at it." Xi does not create the Chinese ideology (he somehow fits himself into it) - it is created by itself, by the long history of China. And she is the best of the 4 centers of power, more on that below.

      6. RF: "In terms of the idea, so far unclearBut probably there is an accent pure Russian culture(???). Western culture has now ceased to matter even to the elite." Western / European culture has become so ingrained in the minds of our people over the past two centuries that much of Russian culture is actually European. Humanism, for example. Mass cult from the USA still rules, Alas.

      7. In general: "deglobalization and in general, almost all the processes of this decade are causing damage primarily to China and the EU. "There is no such thing in the world that someone strong / secret decided: Let's arrange deglobalization! Or in the USA they made such a decision. There is a crisis and the benefits of regional elites (regional elites Muslims, China, India and Southeast Asia do not need such globalization as the US, the EU also needs another one, but the elite there are all under the control of the US with the help of tons of compromising evidence and a network of influence). just a side effect of the change.
      "RF from this is not cold and not hot." From accidental deglobalization, yes. And from the powerful attempts of the United States to subjugate Russia, to bend it, to remove Russia from its sales markets is clearly bad. It will always be bad.

      MAJOR objection. In your analysis, there is no clear comparison of ideologies in the 4 centers. But ideology is important and it is changing now. I will try to give such an analysis below.

      USA: approximately from World War I, the USA had its own ideology both for the public (bringing the light of democracy and entrepreneurship to the world + aggressive Christian values) and for the elite (predatory capitalism, conquest of the markets of the world, financial manipulation, technical superiority) and these two ideologies suited each other: the people of the United States received a share of the profits from the global successes of the US elite.
      Since 1945, the United States has had and has a huge trump card: the UN under its control is supposedly the moral center of the world (we also believe in this!)
      Since the 90s, something has broken in the scientific community, bohemia, then the US elite. This new illogical fanatical leftist-globalist-humanist ideology aggressively squeezes out both the simple American dream from the hinterland (for the "rednecks") and the ruthless, predatory pragmatic capitalism of the elite. In parallel, the capitalism of the real sector stifles nepotism in the economy and government, the financial sector, which is in fact more profitable than any real sector. I don’t know what to do with financial nihilism (it’s directly built into the elite), but leftist multi-remote humanism can only be burned out by a civil war. Well, this is not the first time the United States, they can handle it.

      EU: the good old European capitalism and the welfare state are being replaced by a similar leftist-globalist-humanistic ideology, but rather old (since the 1950s) post-war total humanism is layered on it: Europeans are more and more like Moriori (not able to kill, fight), become dumber. When I lived in Europe, this impressed me the most. They are not able to create their own elite, not controlled by the United States, set their own goals, create their own nuclear forces (although France has everything for this), wage their own wars, even protect themselves from impudent migrants. With ideology, everything is bad there.

      China: The People's Republic of China was cunningly, imperceptibly rid of communist overshoots (it seems that the country is officially communist, but in reality it is state-capitalism). China is returning to its long-standing pragmatic, completely cynical, yet deeply collective ideology about the center of the world under Heaven: all for the sake of Chinese society and optimal governance. No humanism and multiculturalism, just an efficient society and country. Other countries are sources of resources, whoever interferes with this must suffer. The way China cheated the USSR in the 60s with nuclear weapons, then the USA in the 70s (ping-pong deal), then the whole world with the size of its nuclear arsenal - these are the very signs of the success of its cynical ideology.

      RF: Russia got rid of communism with pain, now it is beginning to realize that the USSR had a lot of useful things. The elite is simply not able to invent their own ideology, and therefore gave everything at the mercy of churchmen and historians like Medinsky. In fact, the leadership of the country offers the population as an ideology the old religion because of which (+ the weakling tsar) the Russian Empire collapsed. It is completely incomprehensible how in the world of predators and high technologies a country can survive with an ideology based on tales about a crucified revived Jewish rabbi from the Essenes sect and other Hebrew mythology? It is possible to make sheep (the favorite model animal in the Bible) out of the population of the country, but this will not help in a fight with wolves. The worst thing is if the leaders of the country themselves believe in this nonsense. After a year of war, there is an unpleasant feeling that the leader of the country believes so deeply in biblical ideals that he is even afraid of the word "war", stubbornly (for a year already!) Replacing it with a ridiculous abbreviation of 3 letters. And he stubbornly tries to show the whole world how humane he is (which, by definition, is useless, because humanism was invented in Europe, is the main European ideology, and therefore the Russian leader will never be recognized by Europeans as successful in THEIR ideology - it's like demanding from the Chinese to admit that a Negro can do better them to practice Chinese calligraphy). The story of the grain deal seems to hint at its full potential.

      This stubborn unwillingness to accept reality very much resembles the overshoots of religious consciousness. For example, it is hard for believers to admit that the main task of a soldier and officer in a war is to kill the enemy. Since this is against the commandment "Thou shalt not kill", so they will stubbornly invent other words, verbs, meanings, enthusiastically fence a bunch of dregs, but just do not say the word "kill" honestly. The communists did not have such strange problems, which is exemplified by the well-known poems by Konstantin Simonov "Kill him (If your house is dear to you)" and the philosophy of the protagonist of the book "Volokolamsk Highway" (by the way, not a communist).
      1. +1
        27 February 2023 06: 21
        Nifga yourself you have small objections))

        As for the United States, there will indeed be a large-scale transition to automation in this decade. And this is not a fairy tale, but a reality. There is everything for this, and therefore, more and more people are acting aggressively in the world in the form of trade wars. The goal now for the United States is this in this decade: to take all the dividends of capital from those countries that they pumped up since the end of World War II (a vivid example of microchips), and also, judging by the program that Biden signed and will sign, to create all the necessary conditions for the implementation of country of AI, 2g, microtechnology, smart green energy (not the one in the EU) and create 5g as soon as possible, which will finally accelerate the transition to the next industrial revolution.

        I do not know how they prophesied there before, but now everything is ready. The only disadvantage of the United States is the ideological crisis. As for its origins, it didn’t start in the 90s, but rather the 60s. The basis of their ideology is a city on a hill, where people are all equal, but in fact only white men were equal, and since the 60s, with a new wave of suffragettes and Martin Luther King, the basis began to change. In the 90s, the problem was added, only it is more politics and economics. When factories began to be relocated under Reagan, it hit the middle class hard, but the wealthy class made good money off of it. The USA is the only country in the world that is against globalism in general, but this protest is precisely hidden. And so the years passed: the war in Iraq and the curtailment of the downtrend of industrial investment in the United States, the financial crisis of 2008 and the arrival of Trump. At the moment when Trump came, everything that the Americans had in mind was manifested. Also during Trump, those progress had gone so far for the United States that it became profitable and fashionable to return production back. Under Biden, this accelerated even more, but what is interesting is that the degree of tension decreased, but did not disappear. Now in the United States, Democrats and Republicans have come, one might say, to a general consensus, but at the same time there is a slight discrepancy and an informal third party has appeared - Trumpism, but it is now being crushed by both Democrats and Republicans. As a result, if everything goes smoothly in this decade, the economy will move to the next level.

        4. China: "In food, too, total dependence on the United States, Russia, Canada." - there's no such thing. They will last 5-10 years without them (they will find others), and besides, it cannot be that all these 3 countries immediately stop importing food.


        It won't even last a year. His warehouse stocks will only last for this period. He has a total dependence on imports from the United States, Canada, and their puppets of Latin America.

        "Xi is trying to create an ideology based on Chinese nationalism, but he is very bad at it." Xi does not create the Chinese ideology (he somehow fits himself into it) - it is created by itself, by the long history of China. And she is the best of the 4 centers of power, more on that below.


        China's deepest ideology is essentially life after the apocalypse. If with the West it is to prepare for it, then it has already happened for them. They don't care at a deep level whether they are captured or not. They, like the whole history, are integrated into the interior of the empire that captured them and dissolve in it.
        More specifically, they had an ideology of Maoism, but it ceased to be after Deng Xiaoping, when he chose the path of a market economy. Now China has an ideology - forever green well, or the yuan. Xi understands that a sad fate is approaching in the Chinese economy, diligently trying to reconfigure the ideology to nationalism, which should be the foundation of China in times of trouble, but it does not work for him. Rich Chinese are pouring into the USA, Australia, Canada. The middle class demands reform. The poor class is dissatisfied with the stratification of society.

        6. RF: "In terms of the idea, it is not yet clear, but most likely there is an emphasis purely on Russian culture (???). Western culture has now ceased to matter even for the elite." Western / European culture has become so ingrained in the minds of our people over the past two centuries that much of Russian culture is actually European. Humanism, for example. The mass cult from the USA still rules, alas.


        May be. Personally, I now see a rollback to Peter the Great, when there was a genuine Russian culture (meaning not literally, but the fact that everything is conditionally Russian and nothing else), but maybe I'm wrong.

        7. In general: "deglobalization, and in general almost all the processes of this decade, are causing damage primarily to China and the EU." There is no such thing in the world that someone strong / secret decided: Let's arrange deglobalization! or in the United States made such a decision. There is a crisis and the benefits of regional elites (the regional elites of Muslims, China, India and Southeast Asia do not need such globalization as the United States, the EU also needs another one, but the elite there is all under the control of the United States with the help of tons of compromising evidence and a network of influence). Just started another redistribution of the world. It's high time - many players are not happy. Deglobalization is just a side effect of redistribution.
        "RF from this is not cold and not hot." From accidental deglobalization, yes. And from the powerful attempts of the United States to subjugate Russia, to bend it, to remove Russia from its sales markets is clearly bad. It will always be bad.


        I did not mean that someone special does it. This is a trend and no one originally built it.
        I agree about Russia, but compared to the EU and China, it is much better.

        but leftist multi-remote humanism can only be burned out by a civil war.


        The irony is that in the end everything will come to a left-liberal outcome, where it will be proclaimed a new city on a hill, but for everyone. Yes, and with the automation of the economy, there will be a surge in unemployment, which will create a criminal problem, and it can be solved with a basic income, and this is also a leftist topic.

        EU: the good old European capitalism and the welfare state are being replaced by a similar leftist-globalist-humanistic ideology, but rather old (since the 1950s) post-war total humanism is layered on it: Europeans are more and more like Moriori (not able to kill, fight), become dumber. When I lived in Europe, this impressed me the most. They are not able to create their own elite, not controlled by the United States, set their own goals, create their own nuclear forces (although France has everything for this), wage their own wars, even protect themselves from impudent migrants. With ideology, everything is bad there.


        The mistake of the EU is that they started the leftist program earlier than necessary, and Europe itself was the source of the left agenda. Because of this, they have lost a competitive advantage in relation to the United States. The conditions in the rich EU are such that it is impossible to be frankly poor there, and it is almost impossible to become rich there. For 50 years, all the same family mugs and the same companies on the Forbes list and promising young people are pouring from there to the USA or, in extreme cases, to London.

        China: The People's Republic of China was cunningly, imperceptibly rid of communist overshoots (it seems that the country is officially communist, but in reality it is state-capitalism). China is returning to its long-standing pragmatic, completely cynical, yet deeply collective ideology about the center of the world under Heaven: all for the sake of Chinese society and optimal governance. No humanism and multiculturalism, just an efficient society and country. Other countries are sources of resources, whoever interferes with this must suffer. The way China cheated the USSR in the 60s with nuclear weapons, then the USA in the 70s (ping-pong deal), then the whole world with the size of its nuclear arsenal - these are the very signs of the success of its cynical ideology.


        China is not a genius, as you think. He's so ugly it's even funny. Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, One Kid Politics, Now Xi with his equalization because of what the rich dump and corporate politics for it where coders work 12 hours 6 days a week although it is proven that mental work only comes from this stress and efficiency decreases. As a result, rich and educated people are pouring out of China. Now the rollback is towards a mixture of Maoism and nationalism, but judging by the social. networks of China does not work.
        1. +1
          28 February 2023 01: 11
          "As for the US, there will indeed be a large-scale transition to automation in this decade." - from your answers this transition to automation is not visible. Building factories for CPU chips and chips by 2030? Wait and see. It may well be why not. But other? As of the US railway network, it has long been behind China - it's just a shame! Infrastructure is deteriorating, you know that story with the railway tunnel under the Hudson in New York? How long did he work without repair? They wrote something about the 5G network: "on the implementation of AI, 5g in the country," - it's just ridiculous! In China, for a year now, all cities with a population of more than 0.1 million have been covered by 5G, and in the USA only the program! Do you know about how in the USA for 20 years they have not been able to master the enrichment of uranium with centrifuges? Iran has achieved even more: https://englishunlimited.ru/blog/obogacshenie-urana-v-ssha.html
          More details here: https://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/reports/view/113446/
          Similarly with nuclear reactors - against the backdrop of the programs of China, South Korea, the United States is completely stagnant.

          You wrote "to take away all capital dividends from those countries that they pumped up since the end of World War II (a vivid example of microchips)" - let's not confuse capital and investments, dividends and technologies! That's what they take dividends from the capital and take I have no doubts. But with technology, it’s not a fact - what will be taken very profitably (microcircuits, IT, biotech, medicine), and what is simpler: construction, metallurgy, underwater technologies (where Norway rules, oddly enough), mechanical engineering - bigwigs from the USA do not need it, they make money on other things (stock exchange, derivatives, Fed games, bonds, trade and political wars and embargo fraud).

          "The US is the only country in the world that is against globalism in general, but this protest is precisely hidden." - Here we have the main contradiction.
          The United States and in general - this is nonsense. The USA is a diverse country. In the remote outback, in one-story America, the land of "rednecks" and Indians, maybe so - they are against globalization and the UN as its face. But the urban cosmopolitan Americans, the elite, the business in both industry and finance (and therefore most of the government) are all in favor of globalization! For American globalization, where everything important in the world is ruled by Americans! NO OTHER GLOBALIZATION fits in American heads. Their ideology, their mentality itself, in principle, does not allow that there can be any other successful ideology, system, approach to globalization in the world. That's why they hate China so much - it's too different from them, from religion (the Chinese don't give a shit about biblical tales - they and the Japanese are immune to this), to collectivism in everything and to doing business. Americans can now fight and break the current state of globalization, not because they are against globalization, but because China and other countries are already twisting their arms and they need a new MORE AMERICAN GLOBALIZATION. The one that is MORE FAVORABLE for the US.

          And China needs ANOTHER GLOBALIZATION. Therefore, it can also temporarily, at this historical stage, break the current state of globalization, but not because China is against globalization in principle, but because China NEEDS ITS OWN GLOBALIZATION, in which China rules and collects its dividends from this.
          It's just a fight for a place in the sun. It's like a trade war. They are waged for a long time, stubbornly, furiously, but this does not mean that the parties are against trade itself. No, they just want to impose their trading model, which is beneficial to them - that's why the trade war.

          promising young people flock from there to the United States or, in extreme cases, to London.
          - yeah, a typical speech of an IT specialist in the soul of a globalist. Such a person can make a career and invent something, can be an example for the same youth, but by definition he cannot lead his country, his civilization in the right direction. For in general, point-blank does not see the meaning of the struggle of groups, nations, countries, civilizations. In China, they are not ruled like that, and this is good for China.

          China is not a genius, as you think. He's so ugly it's even funny. Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, One Kid Politics, Now Xi with his equalization because of what the rich dump and corporate politics for it where coders work 12 hours 6 days a week although it is proven that mental work only comes from this stress and efficiency decreases. As a result, rich and educated people are pouring out of China.


          China doesn't need to be a genius. Geniuses in a fight do not have much advantage. The advantages there are healthy, fast, cynical, ruthless.
          The Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution were leaps and bounds, obscure even to sinologists.

          But the "one child" policy was correct and timely. So that overpopulation does not cover the country with a copper basin. I am struck by the religious and liberal-humanistic anger of Americans and Europeans about birth control in China: what are they not happy about? Your stupid humanistic ideals are not respected in China? Why should they be respected? * You don't respect Chinese ideologies, so why should they be yours? * Do you feel sorry for the unborn Chinese or do you value the rights of the Chinese so much? Is it more important than your rights? Do you want to have more of them? Why is this for you??? From my stove, I look at it this way: if there is unlimited population growth in China, then they will trample us with a crowd from hunger / lack of money / from the environment, like on Damansky Island. And I don’t want to lie with a machine gun near the border and feverishly think about what will end faster: the cartridges in the machine gun or the Chinese rushing at me?
          My rights and my prospects are more important to me. The Chinese will somehow figure it out on their own, without us. For the "one family - one child" program, I am ready to personally shake hands with all the Chinese leaders involved in its creation. If there are a lot of them, I will rest, endure, but I will shake hands with everyone.
          Your emphasis on coders and it suggests that you are also an IT person.
          Understand that a country is not determined by IT alone! We need transport workers, and farmers, and workers, and teachers, and soldiers, and stupidly janitors. And they should also be their own, with the same basic values, not guest workers from outside. China is building a society where everyone is more or less satisfied, and if only IT specialists were happy for you, otherwise we will be offended
          and let's run!! London or USA. This is ridiculous egocentrism.
          And there is no deep knowledge about China. It's easy to prove. Here is the phrase:
          Now the rollback is towards a mixture of Maoism and nationalism, but judging by the social. networks of China does not work.
          A rollback may be to Maoism, because under Deng Xiaoping there was a departure from Maoism. But a rollback to "a mixture of Maoism and nationalism" is nonsense. Maoism was without nationalism. Nationalism before him without Maoism. Therefore, a rollback to what was not previously simply impossible.
          Judging by social networks is something else fortune-telling in the thick of it.
          A simple question about your level of knowledge about China: what do you know about the Chinese state social credit system and what are its prospects now?
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            28 February 2023 03: 08
            [quote] As of the US railway network, it has long been behind China - it's just a shame! Infrastructure is deteriorating, you know that story with the railway tunnel under the Hudson in New York? How long did he work without repair? [/ Quote]

            This is a fact and I agree with you. the US railway network is not needed now for the reason that Americans move either by car or by plane. Rather, there is more of a claim to the road infrastructure, which is very advanced and needs to be constantly maintained, which was not done much until recently. While China has a very developed railway network, it does not pay off (payback is only for those branches that connect Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, because the richest part of the population lives in these cities). I can give an analogy with Japan, which has had high-speed trains since the 70s and at the same time they pay off, but I don’t see something that Japan has been developing since the 90s. So it's not about construction.

            [quote] In China, for a year now, all cities with a population of more than 0.1 million have been covered by 5G, and in the USA only the program! [/ Quote]

            The program appeared in 2021 and in this short period of time, the level of availability of 5g as a percentage of the population has caught up with China. Literally for covid, wired access to 1 Gbps appeared. for 80% of the population and half have access to 5 Gbps. In China, with wired Internet, it has lagged behind the United States for 2 years, because there in a package of max 1 Gbps in large cities (except Shanghai, Beijing), and the United States in almost all large agglomerations has a package of 5 Gbps. Before covid, judging by that information, the situation was not very good. It's the same with 5G. Growth is wild in this regard.

            [quote] Do you know about how in the USA for 20 years they have not been able to master the enrichment of uranium with centrifuges? Iran has achieved even more: [/ quote]

            Agree. The US relied on Russia to enrich uranium. They hardly did it. Maybe they will learn in this decade, maybe not. I won't be arguing here.

            [quote] You wrote "to take away all capital dividends from those countries that they pumped up since the end of World War II (a vivid example of microchips)" - let's not confuse capital and investments, dividends and technologies! [/ quote]

            By capital, I comprehensively meant: human, industrial, financial. At that time I did not want to write extra words and therefore reduced it to one.

            They will take everything they need and everything they can. As for medium industry (or heavy), they opened 10 large steel and 9 copper smelters that year, and in terms of investment, this is a record for 3 decades. And this growth will continue with the growth and availability of automation.

            As for the financial sector, it was relevant until recently. With the onset of deglobalization, supply chains are disrupted, which leads to the problem of buying this or that resource for money. In short, the financial sector fades into the background, and technology and industry come to the fore.

            [quote] The United States and in general - this is already nonsense. The USA is a diverse country. In the remote outback, in one-story America, the land of "rednecks" and Indians, maybe so - they are against globalization and the UN as its face. But urban cosmopolitan Americans, the elite, business in both industry and finance (and therefore most of the government) are all for globalization![quote]

            Not only rednecks, but in general, even in large cities. Ordinary Americans see that they are not welcome in the world and they no longer want to have anything to do with it (well, except for the very liberal LGBT people, but these are purely schizos the same as alt right). Also, because of globalization, the US middle class is suffering and they understand this at a basic level. The elite didn’t care about this for the reason that in the 90s and 10s it was profitable to transfer production to Asia, but now it has become profitable to build in the USA because of the risks of geopolitics and because of the reduction in the cost of production. Now they have serious problems in their ideology and they have no time to deal with globalization. In order to do it, you need to take as much as possible from all over the world from the beginning, close yourself inside and find a solution through dialogue, and for this they need to prepare their country economically as best as possible. Of course, they will not completely stop trading (it will be but less).

            [quote] For American globalization, where everything important in the world is ruled by Americans! NO OTHER GLOBALIZATION fits in American heads. Their ideology, their mentality itself, in principle, does not allow that there can be any other successful ideology, system, approach to globalization in the world. [/ Quote]

            Then, if everything goes right, they will again, in their opinion, spread their hail on the hill to the whole world (although they may refuse to do so in the end), but now they cannot do it.

            [quote] China doesn't need to be a genius. Geniuses in a fight do not have much advantage. The advantages there are healthy, fast, cynical, ruthless.
            [/ Quote]

            If a hint of China, then its nation is aging. Fast agrees with this. Cynical too. Ruthless is not from the word at all. China is a herbivore, and the USA, Russia are predators, but this is because it is a little less than completely dependent on the USA, Russia, and also on the third world.

            [quote] But the "one child" policy was correct and timely. So that overpopulation does not cover the country with a copper basin. I am struck by the religious and liberal-humanistic anger of Americans and Europeans about birth control in China: why are they not happy with something? [/ Quote]

            Doubly. Due to the fact that they lived well in the 80s-10s, but then in 2015 it turned out that there were fewer able-bodied people and this will happen every year, and with acceleration. That pit that has been formed since the 80s will not be able to serve those who were born before this policy, and this will be relevant in the next decade (it is still relevant now, but there will be a completely national disaster). The demographic pyramid cannot be ignored. This is the same base as resources, food, technology, ideology.

            As far as happy or not, that's just a fact. The economy is stagnating because of this. Europe is also bad with this, even in the same Italy it is even worse. Italy has a huge pre-retirement population that is now moving into retirement this decade and the next. Considering that Italy already has no economy (it lives purely at the expense of the ECB, the weak auto industry and tourism, and the Eni oil companies), then their fate is the level of Greece, and this is at best. At the same time, China has not accumulated enough capital to become a developed country, and it is already clear that it is following the path of Japan in the 90s.


            [quote] I look at it from my stove like this: if there is unlimited population growth in China, then from hunger / lack of money / from the environment they will trample us in a crowd, like on Damansky Island. And I don’t want to lie with a machine gun near the border and feverishly think about what will end faster: the cartridges in the machine gun or the Chinese rushing at me? [/ Quote]

            That's why you have to thank Dan. Again, it's twofold. If he now had a population of 2 billion, then he would be even more dependent on the West and Russia. So Escobar's axiom works more here. No, he would not pop on Russia. China is a herbivore in this regard. Rather went to himself than to Russia.

            [quote] Understand that a country is not determined by IT alone! We need transport workers, and farmers, and workers, and teachers, and soldiers, and stupidly janitors. [/quote]

            Am I denying this? I will even say more that IT specialists will lose their jobs en masse due to the development of neural networks. Now chatgpt writes code at the level of a junior. in 2030, a senior (pro) will write at the level, but this is a US problem, this will not reach Russia very soon. But builders, plumbers, electricians will be more relevant than ever, since they will probably not be replaced by robots for another 30 years, probably.

            [quote] A rollback may be to Maoism, because under Deng Xiaoping there was a departure from Maoism. But a rollback to "a mixture of Maoism and nationalism" is nonsense. Maoism was without nationalism [/ quote]

            Not nonsense. The leveling from Xi is a reference to Mao in fact, but this does not contradict nationalism. The point is that economically, Xi wants to build China on the left and politically on the right.

            [quote] A simple question about your level of knowledge about China: what do you know about the Chinese state social credit system and what are its prospects now?
            [/ Quote]

            The prospects are such that if it works, it will be digital fascism. What are the chances that he will shoot? - Until 2022, it was high, now, due to technological restrictions from the United States, it is low. If the States turn even faster, then he has no chance.

            In general, I will say this in what case China is waiting for success in the world. Either he will create a miracle Yudo technology that will radically change his economy for the better, or the stupidity of the Americans (civil war). With other options, he is a khan, the only question is at what speed.
            1. +1
              1 March 2023 01: 23
              Americans travel either by car or by plane. Rather, there is more of a claim to the road infrastructure, which is very advanced and needs to be constantly maintained, which was not done much until recently. While China has a very developed railway network, it does not pay off

              There is a fundamental difference between American capitalism and state capitalism (not only Chinese, Japanese and French in the sense of the railway network, it seems)! A piece of iron in most countries DOES NOT PAY OFF. Due to the huge costs of maintaining the network itself (rails, embankments, bridges, networks, tunnels, sidings, stations, depots, personnel - all this devours money every day). Even in fairly market-oriented Switzerland, their railway (not bad for such a mountainous country) is half funded by the state. It's not a bug, it's a feature. It should be. The piece of iron literally holds the country together as the backbone of the state, it is needed for the development of sales markets, so that many heavy / cheap products and resources can be easily sold in all corners of the country and for export (reducing transport costs in price), it is needed for large projects, for war , for stopping natural disasters, for stable (for decades) state orders, for settling empty / undeveloped territories, for the mobility of the middle and poor class. In China, the railway still has a huge side potential (for example, quickly transfer troops and police during unrest). In short, the railway cannot be measured by one payback or profit. This is a state matter, and unfortunately for the United States, the local elite does not understand this well ... Only the Pentagon fumbles in this and at one time managed to save many railway lines in the United States for its military purposes and to save people in case of disasters. I advise you to watch the chic Goblin-Puchkov dialogue about the "rail pogrom in the USA" (I can't find it!) or this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1NV_AST92k

              This is also a huge difference between the US and China, the difference in mentality, ideology, approaches to the duties/functions of the state. It is little known, but the Chinese also connected the eastern coast of Africa with the western railway, quite recently.

              By capital, I comprehensively meant: human, industrial, financial. At that time I did not want to write extra words and therefore reduced it to one.

              Now I understand but disagree with the union in this question. These are three VERY different concepts. What is easy with finance is not so easy with industry. Well, people are generally unpredictable.

              As for the financial sector, it was relevant until recently. With the onset of deglobalization, supply chains are disrupted, which leads to the problem of buying this or that resource for money.

              The financial sector is still relevant today. Both in the USA and in the world. Just look at what percentage of oil in the world is traded in dollars? And keep in mind that ALL the oil sold by Saudi Arabia and their vassals from the Gulf is sold strictly for $ - they signed a secret agreement about this with the United States in 1974, and it still WORKS. Recently, the Saudis did not follow the lead of China, which offered to buy oil for yuan. They believe in the dollar, which has been printed at a frantic pace since the beginning of the pandemic...
              What about US Treasuries? What about derivatives of different types? This is just a huge gesheft for years, there are no signs of collapse yet.

              Now they have serious problems in their ideology and they have no time to deal with globalization. In order to do it, you need to take as much as possible from all over the world from the beginning, close yourself inside and find a solution through dialogue, and for this they need to prepare their country economically as best as possible. Of course, they will not completely stop trading (it will be but less).

              Ideology can be repaired in parallel with globalization, one another is not a hindrance.
              In order to "take as much as possible from all over the world" one does not need to isolate oneself and abandon globalization, one should rather introduce a more "impudent" globalization (by intimidating everyone, and above all one's allies) for the purpose of robbing others (the weak). You can't rob others by sitting in isolation!

              then, if everything goes right, they will again, in their opinion, spread their hail on the hill to the whole world (although they may refuse to do so in the end), but now they cannot do it.

              There is no such break: both for internal consumption and outside, they continue to broadcast the same mantra about a city on a hill. Yes, it may not sound as convincing as in the 1960s and 70s, but they also broadcast it fanatically, with an amendment / addition about protecting LGBT people. There is no sign of rejection. There's no such thing. And frankly, there's no need to refuse for now. Now, if in the future this will cause immediate negative in half the world, then yes - they will have to turn up the volume of the broadcast.

              Ruthless is not from the word at all. China is a herbivore, and the USA, Russia are predators, but this is because it is a little less than completely dependent on the USA, Russia, and also on the third world.

              Their ruthlessness and predation is not like ours or the Americans. It is hidden, unhurried, but even more inexorable. It's like the stratagems in Sun Tzu's The Art of War - there's a lot of water and oddities, but the goal is to win. Let it be more often with a threat, with maneuvers than with a direct fight, but win.

              In 2015, it turned out that there were fewer able-bodied people and this will happen every year, and with acceleration. That pit that has been formed since the 80s will not be able to serve those who were born before this policy, and this will be relevant in the next decade (it is still relevant now, but there will be a completely national disaster). The demographic pyramid cannot be ignored.

              Yes, you can't.
              But you can replace the missing people:
              1. migrants (on the island of Hainan in 2019, right before the pandemic, I was served in a hotel restaurant by a student waitress from Bangladesh - we had a nice and long talk, I advised her a translator for a smartphone).
              2. robots - take an interest at your leisure in which country in the world has the most industrial robots. The answer will surprise you!
              3. "hidden extra citizens" will appear from among the 2nd and 3rd children illegally born in the village ...
              China is full of surprises.

              If he now had a population of 2 billion, then he would be even more dependent on the West and Russia. So Escobar's axiom works more here. No, he would not pop on Russia. China is a herbivore in this regard. Rather went to himself than to Russia.

              Are we dependent on Russia in terms of? Feed half of them? No, quit! So half of Africa, even during the war with Ukraine, we feed according to Putin's precepts :)
              He popped on the USSR / Russia with 2 billion or not, I don’t know, this is fortune-telling. (this could be both a state decision and a pure rebellion / anarchy, as in the case of the Red Guards). Like fortune-telling, and what would happen if, in addition to machine guns, they would have to be stopped by a nuclear strike. But I DO NOT WANT IN PRINCIPLE to check such risky scenarios. Therefore, I am deeply grateful to the responsible Chinese comrades for their self-restraint. They solved the problem WHAT WAS CLOSER, MORE DANGEROUS, and now, slowly, they can calmly solve another problem of the demographic pyramid WHICH IS WEAKER.
              As for pensions past, this is not Italy, the peasants of China have no pensions at all (as well as taxes on them), but for workers / employees they are self-sustaining, a very simple and rigid system (I read about it at Colonel Kassada).


              Not nonsense. The leveling from Xi is a reference to Mao in fact, but this does not contradict nationalism. The point is that economically, Xi wants to build China on the left and politically on the right.

              I do not mean that Maoism cannot be combined with nationalism (you can probably).
              I mean that PREVIOUSLY MAOISM WAS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH NATIONALISM, so you can't write "rollback". Rollback happens to what has already been. And this specifically in China WAS NOT.

              "Equalizing from Xi" is another tale about China. The style shows that it is made in USA. Xi is tightening the screws, ideologically, politically, yes. But not economically, and not to the extent that it resembled Mao's experiments. Maoism did not work in the economy, therefore they will not try it a second time in China. There is no need, the train is already moving, the cat is catching mice.

              As for Chinese nationalism, it is also different, not the same as in Europe, not the same as in the USA (there real nationalism can only be among the natives). It is natural, it is in the soul of the people, it does not need to be published, etc. If under Xi it became more noticeable, then this is not Xi's fault / merit, but simply a natural move.
              I like in Chinese films (especially in "300") an unobtrusive, background, deep anti-globalist message: do not believe foreigners - they will always deceive you, proven by the history of China. We do not know how to push ideology into the cinema. Either it is the opposite (cheers for universal human values!), Or it doesn’t exist (one rubbish), or a primitive lubok with terry propaganda clerical stuff.

              They did not answer about Chinese social credit: What do you know for sure?
              The prospects are such that if it works, it will be digital fascism. What are the chances that he will shoot? -

              Yeah, another tale about China ...
              Answer the question about the social credit system in China itself and it will be clear.
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                1 March 2023 02: 14
                In general, in order not to argue endlessly, we simply fix that we have a divergence of opinions about the ideology and demography of China. In terms of migration, I completely disagree with you. To replace the old population of China, hundreds of millions of migrants are needed, and this is unrealistic for today's China (only import from Africa, but the Chinese will not appreciate it). It is more profitable to replace robots in Japan because of the salary. Hainan is kind of like a prefecture of the 1st level, which means that the payback of robots is the place to be.

                Japan's high-speed railways paid off back in the 20th century, so the only question is money. And at the same time, all these roads in China were built on Siemens technologies. In the US, the hardware is in poor condition, especially as a recent case in Ohio showed. Rather, they will learn a lesson from this case and begin to modernize them too.

                As for American globalism, I partially agree with you that it will continue to work in an aggressive form, but because of this, it will curtail more and more.

                Derivatives, dollar, other fin. products are declining from the role of the world. For all fin. sector basis - globalization, and it is less and less.

                As for the tales, I do not fully agree with this statement. And the fact that he does not tighten the screws economically - well, this is purely Hochma. Tell that to Jack Ma and the other tech bosses. companies in China.
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                  1 March 2023 23: 50
                  Yes, we have a difference of opinion, but not catastrophic, and the dialogue was undoubtedly interesting!

                  To replace the old population of China, hundreds of millions of migrants are needed, and this is unrealistic for today's China (only import from Africa, but the Chinese will not appreciate it).


                  Certainly not appreciated. But no one in China needs to replace the old population with hundreds of millions of guest workers. Why replace it? He does not spend huge sums on his pension provision as in the EU and the USA. All that is needed is reinforcement in the cheapest and most unprestigious areas of the labor market. Especially in the service sector, where robots cannot be saved yet.
                  Here's about robots: https://ya-r.ru/2020/10/21/skolko-robotov-v-mire-novye-dannye-o-mirovom-rynke-robototehniki/ - how many people know this statistic?

                  Tell that to Jack Ma and the other tech bosses. companies in China.

                  I listened to our sinologist Maslov about that story with Jack Ma. He links the dark lesson of Ma's "re-education" with the fact that he, contrary to the advice of high-ranking people in China, began to go public with his future super-company Ant. It is too gigantic and could collapse quickly. Immediately both on the stock exchange and in business, and thereby cause catastrophic damage to the image of China, the reliability of its economy. Plus, the person at the head of such a company begins to unwittingly play a political role. The Chinese comrades at the top do not need this, they do not need their homegrown Rockefellers. And so, when careful allusions to Jackie Ma did not work, he was kidnapped for "re-education." He remained alive, and that's good, but all the smart billionaires of China completely understood the hint.

                  You never answered my question about your knowledge of the Chinese state social credit/rating system.
                  From which I conclude that you have little knowledge about it and you prudently do not spread it.

                  Therefore, I recommend that you carefully look at this explanation of a native Chinese woman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u-Y3kguH_k
                  This is a cool example of a super-bike, which we (and Russians and Americans!) have been fed by the media for probably 10 years! Moreover, it costs nothing to reveal it, because approximately 1-1.5 million Russians (Russian speakers) constantly live and work in China, and they must face this. You just have to ask them and they will answer. Here is an example: https://pikabu.ru/story/sotsialnyiy_reyting_v_kitae__kak_yeto_na_samom_dele_rabotaet_7992982
                  But pay attention: this does not leak into our media! It is more profitable for our propagandists to keep this story about China in the media.
                  By the way, my credit rating of 998 out of 999 (I learned it through the Sberbank application) visually looks exactly like these pictures about the Chinese social rating.

                  The second example of a super-tale about China is a wildly underestimated China's nuclear arsenal. Which comes from the FAS (Federation of American Scientists), but "considers" the nuclear warheads of the PRC is not a scientist or an American! And our journalists uncritically swallow this shit and feed it to the population as the ultimate truth. I myself wrote an indignant article about this, since I am at least a physicist in my basic education:
                  https://www.sovsekretno.ru/articles/politika/yadernye-sekrety-podnebesnoy/

                  Well, to demonstrate supposedly "non-aggressiveness" and the fact that "China is a herbivore" is a cool video of the liquidation of a criminal on the spot: https://youtu.be/cbvJbW9Tr80?t=276
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xM_PiWZN-E
                  - they did not hesitate to show it on television! I think that this Chinese woman is not the first one (he behaves painfully calmly after his execution). I wish her all the best, health and success in her work.
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                    2 March 2023 11: 03
                    As they say, time will tell. Maybe we are both wrong and everything will be different.
      2. 0
        27 February 2023 06: 42
        The USA is the only country in the world that is against globalism in general,


        Correction from developed countries.
    3. 0
      27 February 2023 08: 43
      Now to the point. The United States accounts for about 70-80% of the global share of high technologies (tech, big tech, pharma, software, AI, aerospace) and this share has been growing for 20 years due to a decrease in the share of the EU and Japan. This means that the United States has technological independence and, due to this, can move within this decade to a new industrial revolution, the basis of which will be the automation of the production of goods and services.

      The United States accounts for about 70-80% of the world's share of high technology
      The interest rates are clearly inflated, although STILL high.
      In addition, ANY high-tech product is the result of huge cooperation. And this cooperation in conditions of total isolation will only collapse.
      Only we, Iran and the DPRK have the ability and experience to produce a high-tech product in conditions of isolation (isolation).
      Well, an anecdote on the subject.

      "A man spent half his life teaching a flea (than not a high-tech product) some circus tricks. He came to the director of the circus, gave him a flea and said:
      - See the flea?
      - Well ? - says the director and crushes the flea with his thumb ... "

      There will always be a force capable of destroying a "high-tech product".
      The only salvation is the upbringing (formation) of the MAN himself.
      And the US has a lot of problems with this.
      1. 0
        27 February 2023 09: 05
        The US share in the creation of semiconductors is 60% of which almost all are high-tech. The problem is only in production, because they are mainly produced by Taiwan, Korea, Japan. Since 2021, a huge number of factories in the United States worth hundreds of billions of dollars have been producing, and by 2030 almost all will be ready.

        Biotechnology is also the US far ahead of the rest of the players. There are only competitors from Europe (BioNTech, Novartis), but they are catching up. The reason why biotech and pharmaceuticals are developed in the USA is that the Americans pay a lot of money for it, and this money goes to research.

        There are no competitors in software and AI. 3 US OCs (Androyd, iOS, Windows), on which everything else is based, and almost all of these are also American companies (out of the top 50 companies selling software for business, only the German SAP is in 6th or 7th place). As for AI, not only does the US big tech almost have a monopoly on data, but their own microchips are the best, which provide data processing and storage.

        Well, there is nothing to say about space. Elon Musk has completely changed the rules of the game.

        If you look at EBIT (operating profit), then it will be 70-80% for US high-tech companies. Revenue is about the same.

        As far as cooperation is concerned, this is true. Too many variables from different countries. However, I do not think that outsourcing will not disappear as a result.


        As for isolation, if a country has food, water, resources, then it can completely withdraw into itself and live as it wants. neither we, nor Iran, nor the DPRK have the opportunity to produce a high-tech product purely due to the lack of a base. The United States has this base, but in order to create production, it is necessary to reduce the cost of production quite well.
        1. 0
          27 February 2023 09: 23
          The US share in the creation of semiconductors is 60% of which almost all are high-tech. The problem is only in production, because they are mainly produced by Taiwan, Korea, Japan.


          There is such a plant "Electric rectifier"



          During the period 1970-80. on the basis of new devices, VAKS rectifiers were developed for the power plants of the nuclear icebreakers Arktika and Sibir, the second generation of converters for the VUK electric rolling stock, the PT-1000 converter for the excitation systems of hydro generators at the Zheleznye Vorota HPP, VUTGD-300/360 rectifiers, VUTGO-3000 for excitation systems of turbogenerators with a capacity of 120 MW, 160 MW, PAVK converters for an electric drive based on an asynchronous valve cascade, converters for a DC drive PTT, PTTR, PTO. New devices are used for traction substations for railways PVE-3 and PVE-5, in rectifier-inverter converters VIP-2200 with energy recovery into the supply network for electric locomotives VL-80R.

          In 1971, the plant mastered rotor diodes and thyristors for brushless excitation systems of powerful electrical machines, including turbogenerators with a capacity of up to 1000 MW, developed by the Elektrosila plant (St. Petersburg).


          The "Electric rectifier" plant is still working somehow, the "Electrosila" plant is no longer there, there will be a residential complex in this place. This is about galoshes
        2. 0
          27 February 2023 12: 24
          The US share in the creation of semiconductors is 60% of which almost all are high-tech. The problem is only in production, because they are mainly produced by Taiwan, Korea, Japan.

          Well, yes, the problem is only in PRODUCTION!
          And how does the USA manage to CREATE 60% of semiconductors without having production?
  8. +14
    25 February 2023 06: 25
    It is not someone else's game that leads to disaster, but the pathological passivity of the people in 1991 and later. From childhood, I noticed a disgusting feature of compatriots - complete indifference to manifestations of evil.

    In the early 99s, they pointed fingers and laughed at the protesters against Yeltsin's lawlessness. They hoped through iniquity to gain wealth ......

    And another amazing ability in their brains to turn everything upside down - to present the protection of legality as evil, and the arbitrariness of the strong and lawlessness as good. Business and reward.
    1. -1
      25 February 2023 12: 39
      And another amazing ability in their brains to turn everything upside down
      this is called - hopeless stupidity, people do not want to learn something, do not want to delve into problems, are too lazy to look for information, but believe in one source - TV.
      1. +11
        25 February 2023 16: 36
        Well, what are you going to do, again the people are to blame for everything ...
        #bad peoplegovernments got
        In my opinion, everything is exactly the opposite in the country.
        1. +1
          26 February 2023 14: 19
          Quote: not the one
          Well, what are you going to do, again the people are to blame for everything ...
          #bad peoplegovernments got
          In my opinion, everything is exactly the opposite in the country.

          Or maybe you swung about the Country in vain, but it’s just that in your head everything is exactly the opposite: “People are always right” - euro values ​​... You probably write from Paris?

          And here we are in Russia. Open Bible, Deuteronomy 28
          So immediately everything becomes clear. On merit, because you yourself will be responsible for everything, and not the "elite" !!!
    2. +18
      25 February 2023 14: 38
      Maybe people don't need it?
      Neither the Empire, nor the Union, nor the Russian world?
      For one passionary fighting for an idea, there are a hundred in the rear, robbing the people under the guise of this idea.
      Hence indifference and unbelief.
      What's the point of a built temple, in which a fat priest broadcasts about selflessness, and then gets into a Mercedes? Then he wails on the TV screen about the crisis of faith and false values.
      1. +7
        25 February 2023 21: 26
        hence the indifference and unbelief

        Indifference and unbelief from laziness, stupidity and infantilism, and also from pride as the basis of all sins - we Russians yell, we can repeat, but no one even thinks that non-Russians, we live with dreams of the holy USSR, some with dreams of a sweet life like in the West...
        1. +1
          27 February 2023 09: 10
          Quote: Vladimir80
          we are Russians yelling, we can repeat,

          Nothing like that. We sat and watched the GKChP. Ballet, Swan Lake... We played Robocop, watched German porn, and the movie Alien.
      2. -2
        27 February 2023 08: 56
        Maybe people don't need it?
        Neither the Empire, nor the Union, nor the Russian world?


        Does he need to survive?

        And in order to survive, it is necessary to unite (the Russian world), acquire allies (the Union), and all this taken together creates the Empire, well, or its analogue in modern conditions.
  9. +11
    25 February 2023 07: 25
    Until the whole nation realizes the need for a holy war and one Victory for all.
    Yes, the people have realized, realized, they are taking off their last shirt. But the other part of the people, the smaller one, does not realize, they decided to borrow from this smaller part, half a dozen millions for military purposes. The fortresses need to be repaired, it is necessary to sculpt airplanes, release suffocating gases ... They didn’t give it, this part said it was more necessary
    1. +4
      25 February 2023 11: 54
      Yes, the people, then realized, realized, takes off the last shirt

      The people should not take off their last shirt, but think about where they are taking them. And for what

      For 30 years everyone who warned of the dangers of the course taken was laughed at. Approves the most stupid ideas after propaganda. As if not noticing that they are clearly to the detriment of the people themselves and the country, for the sake of which they are always ready to take off their shirts. But the brains turn on with this problem
  10. +8
    25 February 2023 08: 01
    Sincerely, I will express my personal opinion.
    First, on the first part of the conclusions of the respected author:
    1) "Russians are beating Russians on Russian soil. Our civilization is being depleted, prerequisites are being created for further division;"
    Let's first define how Russian civilization differs from the civilization of Western and Southern Slavs.
    From my point of view, Western and Southern Slavs are nationalists, subject to "Balkan syndrome" and enclave thinking. This is the ideal material for the Roman policy of "divide and rule."
    Russia is not the third Rome, it is its eternal enemy. Our empire is the legacy of Alexander and Mithridates. We are an inclusive nation, we have equality in blood and religion.
    Until we realize this, we will mistakenly think of enemies as friends.
    Ukrainians, Poles, can integrate into the Russian world, just like other peoples. But for this, Russia must first prove its strength.
    The question is what our opponents recognize as a manifestation of force.
    2) "The Russian Federation continues to provide resources and capital, partially finances the war against itself. Moscow plays by someone else's rules and loses. There is a strong pro-Western "fifth column" inside the country, dissatisfied with the fact that "stability" has been destroyed;
    Let's apply the reverse logic. There is an easy source of enrichment. Show me people who can ignore him and plow the land in the sweat of their brow. Here I agree with the Marxists, being determines consciousness.
    Actually, it was the West that cut the branch on which our oligarchs were sitting.
    The dollar, as a world currency, has become "occupation money", with a floating rate, and the impossibility of exchanging for "Reichsmarks". Occupation dollars can be frozen at any time.
    Perhaps half of our primitive-minded oligarchs have not understood this even now. But Putin understood this, which is important.

    3) "the unification of the West around the United States, the revival of the NATO bloc, rearmament, the development of the military-industrial complex, the testing of new weapons and technologies. The "world community" has updated the image of the enemy - the "Russian evil empire", Mordor. It remains only to use nuclear weapons, for a complete set;"
    There are three questions mixed up here:
    - The situation of the initial technological superiority of the Western bloc. It's stupid to deny.
    - The unity of interests of the US and the EU. It does not exist, moreover, the US is now killing the EU.
    - Russia has been declared an "evil empire". This is our thousand-year role, because we have a vast territory and resources. We are constantly tested for strength, starting with the Frankish Empire.
    4) "There are no problems with finances. The United States has a machine with world currency, they will print as much as necessary. At the same time, everything will be taken into account and taken from the losers."
    If there were no problems, they would continue to buy resources. But they needed direct access through the destruction of a number of countries.
    They carry out the destruction of Yugoslavia, Libya, and other countries not only with money and bribery, but with weapons.
    With weapons they solve financial problems. No wonder it was said, "who does not work, he does not eat." Finance capital decided to refute this law, but failed.
    I will try to write about the second part of the conclusions later.
    1. -22
      25 February 2023 08: 34
      Quote from Kuziming
      The situation of the initial technological superiority of the Western bloc. It's stupid to deny.

      Is it true? Are we making hyper sound, zircons, poseidons, etc. or are they?
      On whose engines do they fly into space?

      Three civilizations have formed in the World:
      - Western civilization (different nationalist states united under one master - the USA);
      - civilization of the East (disparate states led by China);
      - Russian civilization-state (combining ~ 200 nations and nationalities, and unlike the civilizations of the West and the East, striving to fit everyone into one pattern, preserves customs, language and contributes to their development, and gave writing to some peoples).

      The confrontation of civilizations did not begin yesterday, it has been going on since antediluvian times.
      Depending on which civilization is friends with which one, they "wet" the third one.

      - Under the kings. Russia was friends with the West against China. China in decline, opium wars.
      - Under Stalin. We are friends with China. The USSR is the first economy in the world.
      - Under Khrushchev-Brezhnev. We are against China. China made friends with the West. We have a restructuring.
      - Under Putin. We are friends with China - kirdyk to the West.
      1. +7
        25 February 2023 11: 38
        Quote: Boris55
        Under the kings. Russia was friends with the West against China ...

        Hmm ...
        Quote: Boris55
        Under Stalin. We are friends with China. The USSR is the first economy in the world.

        USSR - the first economy of the World? Where did you get it from?
        1. -11
          25 February 2023 11: 58
          Quote: Doccor18
          USSR - the first economy of the World? Where did you get it from?

          - After the Second World War, we were the first to cancel the cards;
          - We are the first in space;
          - We tamed the atom;
          Etc..

          After the collapse of the USSR, the number of our thieves on the Forbes list significantly exceeded them.

          Socialism and capitalism are two different systems.
          Under socialism - raising the welfare of all (lowering prices).
          Under capitalism - raising welfare for the individual, the rest - inflation.

          The socialist system is more efficient than the capitalist system.
          1. -1
            26 February 2023 16: 33
            Strongly the communists raised this well-being to empty shelves and a constant shortage of the most necessary.
      2. +6
        25 February 2023 18: 52

        Boris55
        On whose engines do they fly into space?

        What computer are you typing comments on? don’t put engines on them, they won’t notice it, and if they don’t put computers, you will switch to paper media and abacus.


        Boris55
        hyper sound, zircons, poseidons, etc. or are they?

        Something in the NWO, these zircons do not show themselves in any way, unlike the chimars that have complicated logistics, and if they supply the full range of missiles, then you will have to hide in the basement, dear friend. Their technologies are excellent, unlike Poseidon with duper sound.
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      1. +5
        25 February 2023 19: 07
        only voices seemingly correct thoughts,

        I will add that he voices some beautiful words to raise the ratings. And he works for compradors.
        As someone who came across DAM's speech about modernization when he was president, he was so surprised by the speech from a literary point of view, concise formulations, very correct logic, a magnificent example of Russian literature. But the "modernization" itself was an empty shell designed to distract people from building pipes and pumping money to the West. Therefore, it is necessary to judge by deeds.
  11. Des
    +16
    25 February 2023 08: 13
    "Someone else's game leads to the catastrophe of the Russian world" yeah, but this world does not exist. It is not formulated, not enshrined in law and is completely unnecessary, alien to simple and rich people. In our multinational country, each nationality has its own "world", its territory, its right, its guardians, defenders and those who are proud of it. The "Russian world" is present among enthusiasts and thinkers, but not in the fundamental state policy and strategy. Recently, there have been attempts to identify directions for the development and protection of the Russian language and culture, but all this is drowning in the lack of ideas of the state.
    so-called The "Russian world" was destroyed in every former republic of the USSR in various ways (murder, bullying, rape, squeezing). Now guests from these republics, and from the "national worlds" of the Russian Federation, citizens are expanding their world. Of course, at the expense of the territories, the means of another world. Alas.
  12. -14
    25 February 2023 08: 14
    Someone else's game leads to the catastrophe of the Russian world

    There is no such force in the World capable of destroying our Russian World!
    1. +11
      25 February 2023 11: 28
      A counter question - what do you understand by the Russian world? Does it exist in reality, or are these inventions of modern political scientists?
      1. -11
        25 February 2023 12: 02
        Quote: Vladimir80
        what do you mean by the Russian world? He is in reality

        There!
        Where? Where the Russian spirit is, where it smells of Russia.

        As long as at least one person on Earth thinks in Russian, our spirit will not die.
        That is why every enemy of Russian civilization, coming to our land, destroyed the Russian people with such bestial hatred. They are doing the same thing in Ukraine now...

        ps
        Russian is an adjective (Russian Georgian, Russian German, etc.).
        Everyone who thinks from the heights of Russian civilization, and not his clan, is Russian.
        1. -1
          26 February 2023 22: 07
          The fact that Russian is supposedly an adjective is an invention of Russophobic propaganda, in reality, Russians are a people, a nationality. Germans are not Russian, like Georgians, Tatars and others - they are RUSSIAN, and the word Russian is a homonym, that is, both a noun and an adjective. Homonyms are words that are pronounced and spelled the same but have different meanings, including different parts of speech. Therefore, the word "Russian" can have the meaning of an adjective, or it can have the meaning of a noun. The Russian-eaters implicitly slip a contrast: if it's an adjective, it means it's not a noun. Russian in relation to the people is a noun, a like-minded Russian is not necessarily Russian! And attempts to declare Russians those who do not consider themselves Russians - that is, Tatars, Uzbeks, Chechens and others - are an erosion and an attempt to destroy Russian national identity.
  13. +8
    25 February 2023 08: 47
    With respect, I will continue the analysis of the theses of the respected author:
    "The Russian Federation, dragging out the conflict, gets a whole bunch of problems:"
    The respected author spoke correctly at the beginning about the comprador elite. Suppose the conflict ends with a quick victory, but the comprador elite remains. Will it be better in the long run?


    1) "discontent of the pro-Western elite, an intra-elite conflict. Which leads either to a palace coup or to the organization of unrest;"
    That is, we must quickly win at any cost so that the respected pro-Western elite does not get nervous? Here the logic is not clear. Putin offered the best thesis, the last ultimatum to the pro-Western elite: either you work for the good of Russia, or you lose everything in general.


    2) "serious economic problems. So far, China has been quite successfully replacing the West, but this is a change from one dependence to another. A year of confrontation and no new factories, industrialization and protectionist policies. Therefore, the breakdown will be very difficult when society wakes up from the wraith of the consumer society;"
    Here again, three theses in one.
    - I watch Chinese news in the original, they directly shout to us about the need for a technological breakthrough. This is a completely different partnership.
    - According to my information, there is a gradual restoration of industrial independence.
    - a consumer society - this is with an excess of goods, but I agree that this ideology is extremely harmful.

    3) "the need for a new wave of mobilization, this is inevitable in a positional struggle. A new wave of social discontent. Plus a worsening of life, an increase in tariffs and taxes, the cost of fuel, consumer goods. The impossibility of the old life with mortgages, credit cars and vouchers over the hill, etc. d."
    - I agree, losses have a negative impact on any society.
    - but why is there no mention of the need for technical re-equipment as the antithesis of mass mobilization? What would be better for the USSR: a million additional mobilized in Kyiv in 1941, or the development of the IS-2 tank two years earlier?
    (This is not a fundamental claim, in the text of a respected author above there is a mention of the technological challenges of modern warfare, the need for a planned economy in a military order, and other correct things).


    4) "the possibility of a military defeat, at least a local one, which causes the scenario of the Russian-Japanese and World War I. Demoralization of society, which will be used by internal Vlasovites;"
    I absolutely agree, this threat is terrible.

    5) "the possibility of a sharp deterioration in the military-political situation. For example, the scenario of the defeat of Transnistria or the siege of Kaliningrad. Then we look at points 2, 3 and 4."
    But also the accelerated disposal of ineffective managers.

    "The results are not joyful for our pampered, relaxed society. This is all for a long time. Even a possible freeze is just a stage in a long slaughter. Everything will be hard, through sweat and blood. Until all the people realize the need for a holy war and one Victory for all."
    Again, I would divide it into three theses:
    - Society really weaned to work. And you have to work. We don't need parasites, especially in the brain.
    - Conflict for a long time. I will return to the topic of what our enemies will consider the strength of Russia.
    Not the mobilization of additional soldier masses. Now they are not attacking in columns, not the 1812th. Now there is a technological competition. When our weapons surpass those of the United States, then they will finally quit.
    - About the "holy war". This is a war for resources and world domination. Ukrainians are not our enemies. Our enemy is our laziness, unwillingness and inability to increase the defense and scientific potential of our country. Our main enemy is corruption and lies.
    Power is in the truth.
    1. +5
      25 February 2023 12: 09
      in fact, initially the statement was different "God is not in power, but in truth" (Alexander Nevsky)
  14. +6
    25 February 2023 09: 47
    So that's all right. But on the other hand: maybe it's time for Putin to remember that he is the president of Russia, and not Burkina Faso? Maybe it's time to start fighting in earnest? Take your subordinates, prime ministers, ministers, deputies of the Duma, the Federation Council and other shushara into the hands of a hedgehog and make them work in a new way, not be afraid to prosecute and imprison regardless of positions and ranks? Remove heads of enterprises and concerns from their posts. Nationalize strategic industries (gas, oil, metals, timber, railways, ports), huge money goes into private hands instead of the welfare of the fatherland. Return all children and relatives to Russia. Force them to go to the front in the forefront, set an example of how to defend their homeland? And then the Kremlin turns out to be kakiyoo lopsided patriotism. Yes, a lot of things had to be done yesterday with a firm and tough hand. Finally stop mumbling and making excuses for concerns and red lines in foreign policy. Because if we do not do this now (and tomorrow it may be too late), then we can most likely follow the scenario of 1914-1917. And this is going to be a disaster...
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    2. +14
      25 February 2023 11: 25
      You are correct, but you didn’t notice that some people stepped back from the war that started last fall, when they looked at the Ferris wheels while our army retreated and abandoned equipment ... Therefore, your hopes for someone are illusory ...
    3. +12
      25 February 2023 11: 30
      And there will definitely be a catastrophe ..... They don’t underestimate the towers of the Kremlin too much how much they shit. And a lot of people are starting to openly express disagreement. And these are not amoebas like the traitor Navalny and his followers, not flawed kreakly. And the hard workers and warriors. Here are the Kremlin towers at a dead end, in any case, the gallows threatens. Either the people will hang or * partners * ....
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    4. +10
      25 February 2023 11: 48
      Apparently, "snuffboxes" and "silk scarves" have not died out with us, so there are iron gloves in a daaaal box.
  15. +21
    25 February 2023 10: 22
    For the first time I met such an emotional and at the same time objective assessment of the general situation. Totally agree with you. Only all-excellent people will attack you and accuse you of all-out debauchery.
    Ceterum censeo Washington delendam esse
    1. +15
      25 February 2023 12: 27
      Let me join and subscribe to every word!
  16. +15
    25 February 2023 12: 44
    People will wake up when it starts to "fly" into their homes (((As long as this is not the case - most do not care, the war is far away, they are waiting "to end sooner." Only a common misfortune that has affected everyone can unite. Apparently this cannot be avoided, unfortunately ( (So ​​I agree with the probable forecast. At the same time, the authorities must prove that it is worth something, they built this system, if they can’t prove viability, then maybe it’s not needed like that. People have always been the easiest to hide behind, but to love the people and taking care of them in peacetime without words is another story, and we have seen it since the 90s.
    Okraintsy, even those who do not share Bandera and sympathize with us, for the most part (and almost without exception among their youth) in the depths of their souls do not want to live like us, in Russian. Like we already lived in Russian, that's enough, we didn't see anything good. The dream of living "like in Europe" is very tempting. That is why there is such fierce resistance. None of the "strings" work. The old people will leave - and that's it, the "Russian world" will end on the outskirts.
    1. +9
      25 February 2023 14: 25
      The dream of living "like in Europe" is very tempting.
      They see "like in Europe" in an extremely idealized way - through rose-colored bulletproof glasses. There (here) and minuses enough. But dreamers see life in Europe as living in an Italian villa with Norwegian pensions, German medicine, Danish salaries, drinking French wine and working like in Greece. wassat .
      1. +1
        25 February 2023 18: 20
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        The dream of living "like in Europe" is very tempting.
        They see "like in Europe" in an extremely idealized way - through rose-colored bulletproof glasses. There (here) and minuses enough. But dreamers see life in Europe as living in an Italian villa with Norwegian pensions, German medicine, Danish salaries, drinking French wine and working like in Greece. wassat .
        Of course, it is almost true, but many (like you) have moved to the West and do not intend to return, alas ...
        1. 0
          26 February 2023 09: 32
          many (like you) moved to the West
          I didn't leave for sausage or spitting on Hyde Park with the Emojis.
          1. 0
            26 February 2023 16: 21
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            many (like you) moved to the West
            I didn't leave for sausage or spitting on Hyde Park with the Emojis.
            belay
            1. 0
              27 February 2023 10: 57
              Yes I just like it here in England, it happens that way too. Went to see, and got accustomed-married.
  17. +16
    25 February 2023 13: 09
    Until the whole nation realizes the need for a holy war and one Victory for all.
    The people have been aware for a long time, but what should they do, grab the pitchfork? The most violent are disposed of in the NWO, in the struggle between domestic and Western oligarchs and capitalists. Nothing new. A classic example: Russian-Japanese and World War I. The mediocrity of the military leadership and rampant theft in the rear. How it all ended is well remembered. It was lucky that the Bolsheviks intervened in this chaos and saved Russia from collapse and plunder, starting to build their Empire (albeit with mistakes and victims), but they built it! Now there are no Bolsheviks and there is no one to call the people to the barricades ... But the Kremlin suits everything, they would have to stand for a day and hold out at night, and then at least the grass does not grow. Therefore, until the Kremlin turns its face to its own people (I give 100% that this will not happen), there is no question of any holy war, and even more so of Victory. It will get worse, much worse...
    1. -3
      26 February 2023 16: 15
      It was lucky that the Bolsheviks intervened in this chaos and saved Russia from collapse and plunder, starting to build their Empire (albeit with mistakes and victims), but they built it!
      -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -----------So lucky, so lucky that they paid 27 million for this luck in the Civil War and 27 million in the Second World War. Great luck. Maybe it would be better if they did not interfere, these Bolsheviks? And where is what they "built"? There wasn't and couldn't be.
  18. +12
    25 February 2023 14: 25
    For the last 12-15 years, Mirikans and other sing-alongs have openly declared "Russia is an enemy, enemy No. 1." And our ingenious chess judokas muttered to us "friends and partners", but now they seem to have woken up? And if they change their shoes again tomorrow? Well, if they have been blatantly and impudently lying all this time, then they have no faith, from the word at all. No, they made the porridge themselves, and you can sort it out yourself.
    1. +5
      25 February 2023 20: 39
      the problem is that the defeat of the Russian Federation, as well as the dead soldiers, is our misfortune and our problems ... they will not "disentangle" anything, they will dissolve in the fog "like an inviolable Chubais" ...
  19. +8
    25 February 2023 16: 17
    Inside the country, a strong pro-Western "fifth column", dissatisfied with the fact that "stability" is destroyed;

    Satanovsky recently said that in the upper echelons of power, except for the highest, there are a lot of people who want to return the situation through negotiations until 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX, i.e. actually drain the CBO.
    1. +5
      25 February 2023 20: 35
      how cunning and politically correct this satanic one is: ".... except for the highest circles" wink again the tsar is good and the boyars are bad, but is he a tsar - if he cannot chop the heads of bad boyars?
  20. +10
    25 February 2023 16: 58
    Russia's main enemy is Russia.
    Russia itself / in itself creates enemies, and then looks for the guilty.
    And it will last more than one century, since we are so arranged, and we don’t want to change.
  21. +9
    25 February 2023 17: 00
    Quote: Taimen
    It’s like waiting for something from the capitalists. They sell their mother for loot. They’ve already sold their father. Although Marx is a Russophobe, he correctly wrote that for 300% of the profit, they will sell everything that is possible and impossible. About selling everything to the West and Ukraine, with which we are at war? About the fifth column that rules in the Russian Federation? All this is ridiculous. We need SMERSH from the proletariat and peasants and new generals from the military from the front, and not "plywood marshals" and "parquet ones." Nationalization of industry, land, resources, and not surrender to godfathers for life.


    Maybe my opinion will not be liked much, but who are the proletariat and peasants in Russia in 2023?
    Ordinary workers, who are much less than 40 years ago, because. part of the industrial enterprises could not withstand the competition with capitalism, part was modernized with a decrease in the number of workers and their replacement with specialists, and part was liquidated, because. at that time, large markets, wholesale, grocery stores and electronics stores, amusement parks could give a quick turnover of funds, and big profits, is this the proletariat?
    Personal opinion - yes. But if the proletariat is small in number, then one should not count on its revolt against the authorities.

    Peasants. Those who have 15 acres and who only visit these acres on weekends are wrong to call peasants.
    Those who live in the countryside almost permanently and feed from this land - yes, they can be called peasants. Only they have land or their own, and a lot, and these are probably kulaks (although I like it better when such a person who grows potatoes, carrots, cucumbers, tomatoes himself, drives his family to his fields, and then tries to reach the city and bring and sell at a loss, called a farmer), or work on a large agricultural complex. Where, again, specialists are needed.

    And who will not want when the top can not?

    The Soviets were of soldiers', workers' and peasants' deputies.
    I have already spoken about the proletariat and the peasantry. I don't know about soldiers. Maybe there is a desire to change the government and return 40 years ago.

    Sorry for a lot of text and emotions!!!
    1. +6
      25 February 2023 17: 38
      Quote from Fangaro
      The Soviets were of soldiers', workers' and peasants' deputies.
      I have already spoken about the proletariat and the peasantry. I don't know about soldiers. Maybe there is a desire to change the government and return 40 years ago.
      Sorry for a lot of text and emotions!!!

      Good message. Only this is a subject for a separate article on whether we now have a proletariat and a peasantry and what kind of consciousness they have. The topic is very important, but you can’t write here in a nutshell ..
      As for the soldiers, so the authorities secured themselves. the very essence of "reforms" in the army is to create a small "professional" that is, a mercenary army that will serve the employer, and not the people. Another thing is that now this concept collapsed at the first serious crisis ...
      The mood in the army is different, but here the question is not only in the mood, but in the possibility of translating them into something real, that is, in the organization and ideas by which they are guided.
      Quote from Fangaro
      Only they have land or their own, and a lot, and these are probably fists

      They cannot possibly be kulaks; one of the basic signs of a kulak is the exploitation of the labor of others.
  22. +6
    25 February 2023 17: 03
    Quote: Goscha
    Until the whole nation realizes the need for a holy war and one Victory for all.
    The people have been aware for a long time, but what should they do, grab the pitchfork? The most violent are disposed of in the NWO, in the struggle between domestic and Western oligarchs and capitalists. Nothing new. A classic example: Russian-Japanese and World War I. The mediocrity of the military leadership and rampant theft in the rear. How it all ended is well remembered. It was lucky that the Bolsheviks intervened in this chaos and saved Russia from collapse and plunder, starting to build their Empire (albeit with mistakes and victims), but they built it! Now there are no Bolsheviks and there is no one to call the people to the barricades ... But the Kremlin suits everything, they would have to stand for a day and hold out at night, and then at least the grass does not grow. Therefore, until the Kremlin turns its face to its own people (I give 100% that this will not happen), there is no question of any holy war, and even more so of Victory. It will get worse, much worse...


    Standing for a day, but holding out at night - this is about the good, and not about those who need a jar of jam, but a box of cookies.
    1. +5
      25 February 2023 19: 01
      Standing for a day, but holding out at night - this is about the good, and not about those who need a jar of jam, but a box of cookies.
      I agree, colleague, I remember the tale about Malchish, I just mean that our government is temporary workers, they do not associate themselves with the country, with the people, they earn money here, or rather plunder the Soviet legacy that our ancestors created, who, denying themselves in many ways, they built the future, created a springboard for the start of the country to shining heights ... They dreamed, they loved us, future descendants who would rush to the stars, to the depths of the sea, they envied us ... It didn’t work out ... And these, the current ones, they are NOT OURS, they are Aliens, with two citizenships, with real estate and children over the hill, today here - tomorrow there and they do not care about their homeland.
  23. +10
    25 February 2023 17: 24
    Yes, the compradors and the colonial administration of the Kremlin summed up the country "under the monastery" It remains to be hoped that castles and yachts will be taken away from the compradors.
  24. +8
    25 February 2023 18: 06
    A whole series of reasonable thoughts of the author is overshadowed (as usual) by a phenomenon that commentators have long called "Samsonism":
    this is really a "holy war", in a mystical sense, the struggle between Good and Evil
    Until all the people realize the need for a holy war and one Victory for all
  25. -5
    25 February 2023 19: 21
    Russians are beating Russians on Russian soil.

    This is the most DANGEROUS and most common misconception in the Russian Federation!

    In this war, the Russians are beating VYRUS, which betrayed its Russian parents, ancestors for the sake of American cookies and lacy European panties, simply shat on the graves of our common Russian ancestors.

    And this VYRUS for us, Russian people, citizens of the Russian Federation, is worse and much more dangerous than all our traditional enemies put together - Germans, Swedes, British, Americans, French, Poles, Turks.
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  26. -3
    25 February 2023 19: 26
    Again on VO sobs. Author, you already then offer options. And the same thing "we're all going to die." Well, this is a fact, no one has yet escaped this.
  27. +6
    25 February 2023 19: 28
    "Russian world", as well as "Russian spring" Edro canceled a long time ago.
    Malek was played with words and red flags that year, and then forgotten again.
    Where is that grandmother with the red flag now? No mention of this symbol.

    Edro, oligarchs, parties in Dubai, PMC mercenaries and oligarch Prigozhin in the media...
    1. 0
      25 February 2023 20: 25
      Where is that grandmother with the red flag now

      you inattentively watch the news, the grandmother with the red flag was taken out by the Okrainians and "fires" the Russian Federation and the Russian army
      ps in Dubai, not only bureaucrats (too cheap for such respected people), but the usual "middle class" tired of sitting in offices and reselling Chinese junk to compatriots ...
  28. +4
    25 February 2023 21: 22
    Tough, but fair.
    Especially the fact that Russia itself finances the war against itself.
    The moment has come when the prolongation of the war is extremely unprofitable for Russia.
    Sooner or later, society will begin to get tired of the war, and then any options are possible.
    Including the 1914 version.
  29. +5
    25 February 2023 21: 25
    From everything said by the author, it becomes clear that the Russian Federation is completely dependent on the next foreign patron.
  30. +3
    25 February 2023 21: 39
    one gets the impression that there is simply no military power to win to the fullest in Ukraine, and therefore the war is positional. This means that the West will win on the battlefield in the long term, and the Kremlin needs a plan for this case.
  31. +1
    25 February 2023 21: 56
    Alksnis about our army - https://m.vk.com/wall701885602_60127

    I think that in such conditions only passionaries and jingoistic patriots should be mobilized to the front, regardless of age and armor. good To involve everyone else is to deliberately send morally unprepared people to be slaughtered.
  32. 0
    25 February 2023 23: 25
    The West declared war not 9 years ago... Much earlier. There, the forces of the complete destruction of Russia won. Those who do not understand this need to think. We will come to the 5th
  33. +5
    26 February 2023 04: 50
    Our politicians started fighting on their own. Even if they were forced, which so far there is no reliable evidence, it is entirely their fault.
    I don't know what to do now. But talking about the Russian world is, sorry, not for the XNUMXst century.
    I remember in the XNUMXth century Russia tried to arrange Pan-Slavism and become the defender of all Slavs. Everyone remembers how it ended.
    In general, let's hope for a miracle, miracles have happened regularly throughout the history of Russia
  34. +4
    26 February 2023 04: 52
    "... and the Russian Federation has not yet come to the war. Bonded, pro-Western orders remain inside the country, making the Russian Federation an economic periphery, a semi-colony of the West and East."
    What is the point of fighting with neighbors if the problems are inside?
  35. +5
    26 February 2023 11: 31
    most of the elite of the Russian Federation - political, financial and economic, which is Westerners in education and spirit, part of Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok, whose children and grandchildren are citizens of Europe, there are other relatives and capital, property - do not want to fight against themselves.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++
    That's it, the article could end on this, EVERYTHING is briefly and succinctly described.
    The trouble is that cleansing from this "top" is not expected, because there are a lot of nice people with whom they caught fish, steamed in a bathhouse, etc. and so on. To offend them - NO WAY! Moreover, all the hardships are borne by an ordinary Russian. They or his children die in the war, he or his children pay exorbitant utility bills, he or his children pay for the growth of all kinds of excises and duties on essential goods.
    "EVERYTHING to friends, the rest - draconian laws", this is the principle today.
    Therefore, this military operation will continue in the same incomprehensible vein: the inviolability of communications will come out to the Reich, the inviolability of enterprises where there is a share of the Russian oligarchs (we are fighting here, we are not fighting here, we are wrapping fish here)
  36. -1
    26 February 2023 11: 46
    The author is clearly exaggerating. The same Crimean or Russian-Japanese wars did not end in any catastrophe for the country, and the connection of the latter with the subsequent revolution is not at all obvious. Yes, and this whole topic with the "holy war" clearly smacks of the Middle Ages. Everything goes to an honorable draw, and the “Western partners” and China throw goodies on both sides so that everyone considers themselves winners. Turkey and Greece, it would seem, are also enemies forever, nevertheless, both countries joined NATO and get along quite peacefully.
  37. -1
    26 February 2023 15: 43
    Little Russians are Little Russians, and Ukrainians are a completely different nation and a different people. For the most part, these are mainly Galicians and Western Ukrainians. They have nothing to do with Russians or Little Russians. 900 years of wandering around Europe (Poland, Austria, Lithuania) turned them into strangers in relation to Russia both in language, culture and religion. Greek Catholics are, you know, not Orthodox. Yes, they themselves do not want to be Russian. Europe is closer and dearer to them. It was with Europe that they lived for the last 900 years. They have a common history, religion and cultural values ​​with Europe. During wars they are always in the trenches against the Russians and Russia. A piece of rotten meat, it's time to cut it off and forget it.
  38. -1
    26 February 2023 15: 44
    Inside the country, a strong pro-Western "fifth column", dissatisfied with the fact that "stability" is destroyed;
    That's right, there is a "pro-Western column".
    Can you just name names? No.
    Well, at least the henchman (s) of this column? No.
  39. -3
    26 February 2023 17: 02
    Decadent article from the line "Chief all is lost client leaves cast removed" Malicious article sowing panic. Probably paid for by the State Department
  40. 0
    26 February 2023 18: 15
    Heavy article. I have only one question - its purpose?! It is clear that we want to find a solution. "Until the whole nation realizes the need for a holy war and one Victory for all" - this sounds great, but who will determine that the whole nation has realized this?
  41. 0
    26 February 2023 18: 52
    Europe and the USA are not a threat to the Russian Federation. This is so obvious to everyone ..
  42. 0
    27 February 2023 00: 32
    A thousand-year confrontation between Rus' and the West.


    this is really a "holy war", in a mystical sense, the struggle between Good and Evil.


    The collective West wants to drive the remnants of demoralized, broken Russians into its "digital concentration camp"


    Russians-Great Russians and Ukrainians-Little Russians - one superethnos


    I read and wipe away my tears. From the tenderness of the author's learning. Solidly written.
    It's a pity only. what I did not understand, but what is "superethnos". I googled and realized only that this is something from Gumilev's theory of passionarity and the thick of Eurasianism.
  43. 0
    27 February 2023 00: 56
    Der Autor sieht in seiner deprimierenden Analyze offenbar
    den Wald vor lauter Bäumen nicht mehr...!!?

    DAS ist nicht der Untergang, sondern DIE CHANCE des russischen
    Reiches und seines Volkes sich selbst und die Welt im Ganzen zu
    REINIGEN, zu reinigen von der angelsächsischen Pest, die seid
    Jahrhunderten die Welt vergiftet und auf >Kosten der ganzen Welt
    bekriegt und versklavt!!

    Ein STURM kommt auf und es wird so oder SO kein entrinnen geben...!!!

    Wer begreift, dass dieser Krieg nicht nur harte Bedingungen, sondern
    auch die echte CHANCE auf Konfrontation im besten Sinne des Wortes
    in sich birgt, kann verstehen, WAS der wirkliche Wendepunkt dieses
    Konfliktes sein kann!!
    Wer nur den Donbass und die Ukraine sieht, der sieht nicht das Große,
    Ganze und die Möglichkeit Russlands, angesichts der desolaten Situation
    des Westens, insbesondere der usa, sich der angelsächsischen Pest
    ein fur alle mal zu entledigen!!

    Ja, das könnte sehr hart werden, aber wenn man die Kriegsverbrecher
    aus Washington, London, Paris und Berlin, sowie Polen jetzt schon
    wieder ungeschoren davon kommen lässt, DANN und nur dann würde
    man endgültig verlieren!

    Oh notragen wir den Krieg und sein unendliches Leid endlich DAHIN,
    wo er rechtmäßig und gerecht eigentlich hingehört und lassen wir diejenigen
    endlich bluten, die diese ganzen Massaker in der Ukraine, Syrien, Afghanistan,
    Iraq, Libyen und dem Jemen zu verantworten haben und zwar mit ALLEM
    was die Arsenale Russlands und Weißrusslands zu bieten haben...!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Wenn London als erstes in einem See aus flussigem Glas ersäuft wird
    sich zeigen, das die großen Fressen in den USA Blut spucken und sich
    vor Angst in die Hose scheißen werden und dann, JA DANN wird die
    Zeit der RACHE und Genugtuung auf Seiten Russlands sein und mit
    ihm all die Volker. die seit Jahrhunderten das durch die USA und ihre
    europäischen Stiefellecker verursachte Leid ertragen mussten...!!!
    1. -1
      28 February 2023 15: 15
      Warum bist du noch nicht mit so viel Enthusiasmus an der Front? Die russische Armee schließt auch Verträge mit Ausländern ab.
  44. 0
    27 February 2023 13: 08
    It looks like the top people either don't know what to do, or they know, but can't do anything for a lot of reasons.
    Or maybe it's both...
    There is no plan, opportunities are limited, there is none, there is none, plus a mess, corruption, etc.
    "Swamp" in general ...
  45. 0
    28 February 2023 20: 02
    How interesting was the author's idea of ​​Russia's exit from the jurisdiction of the dollar? If we don't fight, then we'll definitely fall apart. And now, in my opinion, the ideal option is to get rid of
    - pro-Western top,
    - solve serious economic problems (by the way, look at what is happening with vegetables in England. No one would have thought of this before)

    Regarding the "possibility of military defeat" - in the current situation, it is unlikely. And if nevertheless this happens, then I think that a nuclear power supply strike will be inevitable, because. we will have nothing to lose.
  46. 0
    28 February 2023 23: 47
    How did you, the author, famously write down all the dissatisfied as Vlasovites! That is, to the last for Putin, like lemings into the abyss, right? But what if, for example, Prigozhin takes a swing at power (he may have enough determination and charisma), will he also be a Vlasovite? Who are you writing this article for and why? Do you think Putin will read it, realize what boyars are bad, replace everyone and Russia will win ...

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