Retired Indian Air Force officer: Even if the US approved the delivery of F-35 fighters, they should not be ordered due to the large number of shortcomings

According to the EurAsian Times, talks to buy India's fifth-generation F-35 stealth fighters from American defense giant Lockheed Martin are still in the "early stages". However, they come against the backdrop of attempts by Washington to dissuade New Delhi from acquiring weapons from Russia and therefore can move quickly, the newspaper writes.

According to the military attache of the US Embassy in India, Rear Admiral Michael L. Baker, the US-India defense partnership is essential "to the Indo-Pacific strategy," but it is premature to talk about F-35 deliveries.

And retired Indian Air Force officer T.P. Srivastava stated that these fighters have too many shortcomings and are completely unsuitable for the requirements of the Indian Air Force. The F-35 has problems with its stealth coating, ejection seat, excessive vibration from its cannon, and even susceptibility to lightning strikes, Srivastava noted.

Even if the United States approved the supply of F-35 fighters to India, they would not need to be ordered because of the large number of shortcomings.

American F-35 and F-16 fighter jets took part in the recent Aero India 2023 air show held in Bangalore, India.

According to Indian military expert Nitin J. Tiku, the F-21 and F-35 stealth fighter offer could be a "luxury" bait to draw India away from Russia.

In an attempt to sell its fighters to those who do not want it, Washington refused to sell them to those who were willing to pay. Recall that the United States refused to sell the F-35 to Turkey because of Ankara's purchase of Russian S-400 air defense systems.

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[Orange Bigg]

Retired Indian Air Force officer: Even if the US approved the delivery of F-35 fighters, they should not be ordered due to the large number of shortcomings

A sober look at things.

[APASUS]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Retired Indian Air Force officer: Even if the US approved the delivery of F-35 fighters, they should not be ordered due to the large number of shortcomings

A sober look at things.

I think no. It’s just that the entire structure of the Air Force will have to be redone for the F-35. And this is other money. It will be expensive to buy planes and also + structure + dependence on the USA.

[d ^ Amir]

Good-hearted day!!!
well, in the case of the French, this did not frighten them, and the planes themselves are infinitely expensive

[voyaka uh]

Among the Indian pilots there is a "French lobby" and a "Russian lobby".
Each group pushes through the planes they are used to.
And they scold everything else.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Russia can help them build a plant for the production of Su-57E and Su-75, while the United States only sells and then depends on them for decades for spare parts and weapons.

[Orange Bigg]

Let's first build factories for the production of serial Su-57, Su-75, saturate the troops with them and only then start thinking about someone. Because in the situation that we find ourselves in, we need to think first of all about our airborne forces. we are persistently trying to help someone even when no one asks us about it. Let's help ourselves for a start and we will think first of all about our Army. for the Russian Aerospace Forces, do not start producing the same MiG-35s, and we need to expand the Syrian production of the Su-57, and then when everything calms down, it will be possible to worry about India, if of course India is interested.

[paul3390]

Why not now start producing serially for the Russian Aerospace Forces

Ilyich also said - if you don’t understand something, always look for the financial interests of the ruling class. You won't be mistaken.

[Orange Bigg]

So organize serial production in your country, saturate the troops with equipment, show its effectiveness, reliability and export, otherwise we are all running after someone in fruitless attempts to sell equipment that has not entered our troops and has not proven effective, that is, we are trying to sell someone a cat in a bag, it is natural that they will be wary of such proposals and ask why you don’t buy such good equipment for yourself as you say. You should not put the cart before the horse.

[KCA]

The T-90 was first delivered to India, and only then they began to think about saturating their troops, the SU-30SM is nothing more than an adaptation of the SU-30MKI for the Russian Aerospace Forces, the S-350 is an anti-aircraft missile ordered and paid for by the Republic of Kazakhstan, throw it out the fuck?

[blackGRAIL]

In the case of the Su-30, India bought a pig in a poke. The aircraft was developed and brought to mind in the process of sale. The first Su-30s sold to India turned out to be impossible to upgrade / modify to the level of the final machine, and Russia took them (18 aircraft), and instead delivered full-fledged aircraft.

[Archon]

In the current realities, this is a fantasy, but selling to other countries, oddly enough, is a reality.

[arkadiyssk]

Do you think they are afraid of dependence on the United States? If so - explain what is there with the dependence on the Russian Federation in maintaining the airworthiness of the MIG-29K? Something the Indians were very upset by the fact that the decks could not fly normally ...

[paul3390]

Bharatam only still lack the F-35 in their zoo .. And such a wild hodgepodge in aviation, how they think to serve all this - I’ll never know .. Some kind of nonsense - to have our aircraft in service, French, their own, so now also mattress .. And all with different requirements, spare parts, fuel, weapons .. Plus, you’ll transfer the hell out of the pilots to another squadron if anything .. It feels like disco dancers are just collecting.

[rotmistr60]

can become a "luxury" bait to distract India from Russia.

And this is what he correctly pointed out. It is obvious that he not only learned to fly in his time, but also soberly analyze the political situation.

[Zaurbek]

Seeing before our eyes Turkey, which was thrown from the F35 and the money was not returned (which is an ally in NATO), India will not fit into such a program. She has business with the Russian Federation and Indian businessmen, and why portray Ukraine in front of China ?!

[decimalegio]

I am pleased to see that the opinion of pensioners is highly valued. Every time I read someone's opinion on the site, it's always a retired military man, a former ambassador, a former politician, a former secret agent. But don't these pensioners have gardens to cultivate, grandchildren to look after, and, finally, illnesses to treat????

[decimalegio]

To a colleague who put a minus, without adding anything else, I offer the words of our Lord.
John 18,12:19,16-XNUMX:XNUMX
"" He had just said this when one of the guards present slapped Jesus in the face, saying, "So you answer the high priest?" Jesus answered him: “If I have told a lie, show me where the lie is; but if I spoke well, why are you beating me?” "
I will add that I have no purpose to offend pensioners. I also hope to live until retirement. But I am struck by the fact that the expert on duty is almost always retired.

[blackGRAIL]

Formers, if they don't start gardening, usually turn into either experts or lobbyists.

[decimalegio]

You are definitely right.

l testo del tuo commento è troppo breve e, secondo l'amministrazione del sito, non contiene informazioni utili.

[solar]

Nobody offered the F-35 to India and was not going to sell it, so it is not clear what it is all about.

[Menshoff_D_V]

Fuck the Turks a plane for 135 million bucks, it's better to get c400 and shoot at this money. It also confuses me that the f35 is almost a copy of the yak135, its sailors called the guard of the top mast)

[Vadim Topal Pasha]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Let's first build factories for the production of serial Su-57, Su-75, saturate the troops with them and only then start thinking about someone. Because in the situation that we find ourselves in, we need to think first of all about our airborne forces. we are persistently trying to help someone even when no one asks us about it. Let's help ourselves for a start and we will think first of all about our Army. for the Russian Aerospace Forces, do not start producing the same MiG-35s, and we need to expand the Syrian production of the Su-57, and then when everything calms down, it will be possible to worry about India, if of course India is interested.

And here you are not quite right! Remember that in the "dashing 90s" it was thanks to the Indian order for the Su-30 that many production facilities were preserved. During the production process for India, all the jambs and childhood diseases of the Su-30 got out. But when this happened, then our Defense Ministry was honored, tasted and ordered the Su-30 for itself. That is, there is also the opposite way - to start doing for the allies, and then come to the finished one. All the same, the first pancakes will definitely be lumpy and their combat capability (if the ally ceases to be such) will be very conditional, and the resource will be completely ridiculous.

That is, in each specific case, it is necessary to decide which of the approaches has more pluses and / or fewer minuses. There is no universal answer to this question.