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China on the China 2012 Airshow

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Last sunday ended aviation Airshow China 2012 exhibition. The organizers of the event have not yet summed up the results of the salon, however, some experts are already making their forecasts about the long-term consequences of conferences, negotiations and contracts. Only here forecasts often do not come true, and people tend to make mistakes in their judgments. Therefore, the greatest interest is now the exposition of the exhibition, namely, its sector in which Chinese products were presented.

The “highlight of the program” of the owners of the cabin was the new J-31 fighter. This project, as always happens with the new Chinese military equipment, until recently was hardly known. About a year ago, information appeared about the existence of a kind of layout collected for one of the exhibitions. A couple of weeks ago, photographs of a ready-made J-31 aircraft appeared in free access, which bears a great resemblance to that layout. During the discussions of the new fighter, the version of the hoax from the Chinese side was repeatedly expressed. Now the aircraft developer, AVIC (Aviation Industry Corporation of China - China Aircraft Corporation), officially confirmed the existence of the finished prototype and presented a more detailed layout. Not much was said about the J-31 fighter, which the Chinese refer to the fifth generation, but even in this “silence mode” it attracted a lot of attention from visitors to the exhibition.





The second Chinese project of the fifth generation fighter - Chengdu J-20 - was not presented at the exhibition. Visitors not only failed to examine the prototype of this fighter near, but did not even receive any information about it. There was not even the most simple advertising booklets. According to reports, official representatives of Chinese corporations did not comment on the lack of a promising combat vehicle. In the same way, another new Chinese-developed fighter did not hit the exhibition area. In recent years, there has been a lot of talk about the deep modernization of the Shenyang J-11 fighter called the J-11B. It was reported that the aircraft will receive onboard equipment made with extensive use of Chinese components, which will lead to a significant increase in flight and combat qualities. However, there is still no clear and precise information about the program. At the last exhibition Airshow China 2012 the situation did not clear up.




A kind of compensation for the absence of the long-promised fighter has become a new combat helicopter WZ-10. This rotary-wing machine is designed to strike on the enemy’s equipment and manpower, for which it has the ability to use guided and unguided weapons. In addition, the helicopter is armed with an automatic gun. It is alleged that the flight and combat characteristics of the WZ-10 helicopter are not inferior to the parameters of foreign cars of the same class, for example, the American AH-64D Apache Longbow. However, the comparison with the American attack helicopter is still difficult due to the incompleteness of the onboard equipment of the Chinese car. The fact is that the WZ-10 has already gone to the troops, and the radar station is not ready for it. Therefore, those two helicopters that were presented at the Airshow China 2012 cabin did not have any signs of the presence of radar equipment. Because of this, representatives of the Chinese aviation industry had to "push" on other factors, such as weapons. Thus, according to the Chinese, the HJ-10 anti-tank missile is almost as good as the American AGM-114 Hellfire. For obvious reasons, it is unknown how these words correspond to reality.

The remaining exhibits of the Chinese part of the exhibition were mock-ups created to showcase new projects. The largest of these models was the reproduced nose of the Jiaolong-600 seaplane. This four-engine turboprop aircraft with the ability to take off and land both on the ground and on the water must make its first flight in the 2014 year. At present, the design work on the project is being completed and the construction of the first prototype will soon begin. If the Jialong-600 is put into mass production, it will become the largest flying boat among the airplanes of this class that have ever been built in a large series.

Currently, Chinese aircraft manufacturers are actively working on the subject of light aircraft. The fact is that in the near future in China must change the rules for small aircraft, and this should lead to a significant increase in the relevant sector of the market. Despite the only planned changes in the legislation, small aircraft have already attracted the attention of domestic investors. Chinese analysts have calculated that with favorable developments in the coming 12-15 years, China's light-engine aircraft will be able to win up to 20% of the global market.

Chinese aircraft manufacturers have not forgotten to show promising projects that attract attention with their courage. At the stands of AVIC and other companies, three models of aircraft of the original layout were observed. Projects under the names Avant-Courier I, Bateleur and Platypus, as is evident from the appearance of the models, imply the creation of machines belonging to the class "rotorcraft". Unfortunately, all available information about new Chinese projects is limited to only a few general phrases. However, based on stories rotorcraft, you can roughly imagine the pursued goals. The main task of such machines has always been to achieve high flight speeds. The current status and technical details of the projects were not disclosed, therefore news The appearance of full-fledged prototypes may appear in the very near future, and in a few years.

In general, the Chinese exposition at the Airshow China 2012 gives the impression of a peculiar attempt to show itself. Of course, in a number of industries, China cannot yet compete with the leading countries of the world, but it is actively moving towards this. Unfortunately for many cabin visitors, the Chengdu company did not introduce the J-20 fighter. Of course, this fact became the basis for various reflections. Admittedly, there has been some progress compared with the previous Airshow China showrooms. So there is every reason to believe that at the next exhibition in 2014, Chinese aircraft manufacturers will show new, even more interesting projects, as well as exhibit the technology that this year was only in the form of models.

Chinese all-weather multi-purpose fighters Chengdu J-10


Fighter-bomber joint Chinese-Pakistani development of JF-17


On the materials of the sites:
http://www.airshow.com.cn/en/
http://gazeta.ru/
http://lenta.ru/
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/
http://china-defense.blogspot.ru/
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  1. Professor
    Professor 19 November 2012 09: 11
    +11
    We are witnessing the emergence of a superpower.
    1. Civil
      Civil 19 November 2012 09: 55
      +11
      very sad because the superpower has serious territorial claims against Russia ...
      1. Professor
        Professor 19 November 2012 10: 04
        +5
        I agree. They teach children at school how "Siberia is a primordially Chinese territory."
        1. Chicot 1
          Chicot 1 19 November 2012 11: 25
          +14
          Original Chinese only that extends south of the Great Wall of China ...
          I think that it would not hurt to teach in our schools. And also regularly remind visitors to comrades from the Middle Kingdom ...

          By the way, this morning they chose a new emperor. And this one is quite young, and most likely quite zealous ...
          1. Civil
            Civil 19 November 2012 12: 46
            +6
            this is how they imagine Manchuria, and right on Wikipedia:

            1. urzul
              urzul 19 November 2012 16: 08
              0
              Manchuria (Mandchouria) on the map of the Qing Empire 1851 r.
            2. ikrut
              ikrut 19 November 2012 17: 29
              +2
              Until mainland China resolves the issue with Taiwan, no other serious movements will be there. Well, then a few more interesting priority questions will arise. So. that we have a minimum of 100-150 years. As for the pictures, they can be collected on the wiki any and any number.
              Japanese. there, in general, the "northern territories" have not been removed from their maps for 65 years. So what? Where are they, and where are these territories?
              1. Professor
                Professor 19 November 2012 21: 51
                +3
                Until mainland China resolves the issue with Taiwan, there will be no other serious movements

                Do you speak Chinese? A reference to the studio. Have you been to China, but to Taiwan? Or did you, too, toll about it? wink
              2. not good
                not good 20 November 2012 00: 07
                +1
                100-150 years ??? It is unlikely that, at best, 5-6. Until the new general sec. Comes into power until it launches a new program of reorienting China to the domestic market, and there they can decide that it is time to expand and Taiwan is not the main direction .I’m closer to us, even protecting the sea from the Japanese. And unfortunately, the old jokes about the Chinese army are no longer valid. If the plane, helicopter, steamboat, etc. are BUILT and WORK, then the question of bringing to mind is a matter of only time and money, and they do not spare money.
                By the way, jokes were recalled:
                - The Chinese Navy received new high-speed torpedo boats, now two more rowers provide greater speed.
                -China has adopted a million kites to strengthen its air group on the border with Russia.
                Well, about as many as two tanks ....
                Very sad sad
          2. Splin
            Splin 19 November 2012 12: 56
            +3
            You can distort the story as you like, and the Chinese are susceptible to propaganda. As with those disputed islands between China and Japan. Like once the Chinese sailors, the first ...
            1. not good
              not good 20 November 2012 00: 16
              +1
              For China, this is not a perverse story — it’s a ready-made public opinion, the population is ready –– they left the go-ahead and jump forward, convinced that they are right and with the party’s flag in their hands. And they can start if oil is not enough, and God forbid, Syria will fall and Iran drag, then we'll see where China will trample.
        2. M. Peter
          M. Peter 19 November 2012 14: 04
          0
          Quote: Professor
          I agree. They teach children at school how "Siberia is a primordially Chinese territory."


          Just want to ask, do you know Chinese and at the same time sat in their schools in the classroom, where such things were expressed?
          1. Splin
            Splin 19 November 2012 14: 12
            +1
            Quote: M.Pyotr
            I just want to ask, do you know Chinese and at the same time sat in their schools in the classroom, where such things were expressed?

            Take a look CCTV-Russian. Small information sometimes skips over there. The English version has more. Of course, this is an unofficial position of the Chinese Communist Party. Not official yet.
          2. Professor
            Professor 19 November 2012 14: 46
            +3
            I have been working with the Chinese for almost a dozen years, I have been there a couple of times a year, and my Chinese colleagues told me this.


            Here is another map of the possessions of the Chinese dynasties


            And there is such
            1. Chicot 1
              Chicot 1 19 November 2012 15: 10
              +3
              Dreaming is not harmful. Even the Chinese ... However, everything must be done so that these dreams, which are not the best of zealous children from the Middle Kingdom, remain in the category of unrealizable desires ...

              In my opinion, they need to be occupied with something ... Well, for example, thoroughly and tightly switch their attention to territorial squabbles with Japan. While the Chinese Pekingese and Japanese hino will grim menacingly, growl loudly and try to tear a tuft of wool from each other from the tail from us, it will be calmer. Yes, and allows you to buy time ...
              1. Splin
                Splin 19 November 2012 15: 18
                +1
                But Russia has something to really respond to Chinese aggression? So far, only the political factor holds back all the Chinese creeps. (problem with India and Formosa (Taiwan).
                1. Cosmonaut
                  Cosmonaut 19 November 2012 19: 00
                  +3
                  It seems that I live in a country of whiners, alarmists and wimps ...
                  Guys, what are we doing? Russia has and always has had something to answer to any threat.
                  1. Splin
                    Splin 19 November 2012 19: 02
                    +2
                    And in the 41st, such confident ones missed the aggressor!
                    Russia has and always has had something to answer to any threat.
                  2. not good
                    not good 20 November 2012 00: 20
                    0
                    There is something to answer, the question is price, how many Russians will die: the question of readiness. And it is better to be ready for everything as a whiner than for nothing a hero not ready for.
            2. ikrut
              ikrut 19 November 2012 17: 50
              +3
              And my friend told me how Caruso sings. In. pancake. And what do people admire? It wheezes, burrs, blows its nose ... :))))
              Your trips 2 times a year is a very weak argument. Now many around the world hang out. But this is not the reason for the construction of geopolitical projects.
              Do you know the principles of the dynastic development of the Middle Kingdom? Dynastic cycles? Principles and reasons for their formation? Dynasty cards do not talk about this. And to draw conclusions on them is very reckless.
            3. ImpKonstantin
              ImpKonstantin 20 November 2012 14: 49
              +2
              By the way, this is a map of the possessions not of the Chinese dynasties, but of the Mongol Yuan dynasty during the high dawn of the eastern part of the disintegrated Mongol Empire.
              So China has no more historical rights to our territories than the citizens of Rome in the entire Mediterranean.
          3. ikrut
            ikrut 19 November 2012 17: 37
            +1
            Not that. to sit there. but I really want to. so it was ... And it is a shame that Israel has problems with its territories and neighbors, while Russia has some problems. Not fair somehow.
            1. Professor
              Professor 19 November 2012 21: 48
              +1
              Hto vrava-nevistka ... Well, here is where Israel? We are discussing China. fool
            2. Insurgent
              Insurgent 19 November 2012 23: 29
              0
              So Sevastopol drive Russia
          4. Gemar
            Gemar 19 November 2012 21: 12
            +4
            Quote: M.Pyotr
            Just want to ask, do you know Chinese and at the same time sat in their schools in the classroom, where such things were expressed?

            I know Chinese! And at the same time I declare with all responsibility - the world has not seen such Nazis as the Chinese!
            The Chinese consider their territory not only Siberia, but also Sakhalin and Kamchatka (I think it makes no sense to mention about the Far East)!
            Trying to prove to the Chinese that their territory was right up to the "Great" Wall of China, he once heard her claims of his "illiteracy." In addition to schools, the Chinese teach the "real" history of Russia in graduate school. So you can hear this there ... the ears are wrapped in a tube angry .
            By the way, try to prove to the Chinese that it was not they who founded Kitay-Gorod! laughing
        3. ikrut
          ikrut 19 November 2012 17: 24
          +1
          It would be interesting to see a reference.
      2. ikrut
        ikrut 19 November 2012 17: 23
        +2
        No one seriously voices these claims. If we talk about claims to Siberia, then the question with Mongolia and Kazakhstan should be considered a matter finally settled?
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 November 2012 23: 27
      0
      As an economic power, it has already held 12 trillion gdp
  2. predator.3
    predator.3 19 November 2012 09: 54
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    We are witnessing the emergence of a superpower.

    I agree with you, even Mig-1.44 MFIs are already flying with them, though under the name J-20!
    1. snek
      snek 19 November 2012 11: 24
      +4
      Quote: predator.3
      I agree with you, even Mig-1.44 MFIs are already flying with them, though under the name J-20!

      Yes, it’s just a twin (or a clone) if you remove the identification marks, you don’t even understand what photo is instant, and what is Chinese:

      1. webdog
        webdog 19 November 2012 11: 48
        +3
        they are clearly not twins. Chinese combination of the Russian prototype and f-22 (front with a flashlight)
        The engines used are Russian and control, bearing planes are also our principle ..
        like that)
        1. Evrepid
          Evrepid 22 November 2012 14: 08
          0
          Well, actually, aerodynamics are completely different! And where did you get that Chinese is more perfect? Completely different planes. with different goals and objectives.
      2. patsantre
        patsantre 19 November 2012 17: 31
        +2
        They are completely different, only PGO have both, and then the Chinese are at an angle.
        It looks more like a raptor. The front part.
    2. Blat
      Blat 19 November 2012 11: 39
      -6
      and the fact that the t-50 has much in common with the raptor and the black widow is not case cloning?
      1. Tjumenec72
        Tjumenec72 19 November 2012 11: 53
        -1
        in which place?
        the points...
        1. Blat
          Blat 19 November 2012 19: 51
          +3
          in the place where the jay-20 is a copy of the moment of 1.44mph))))))))))))))
          1. Gemar
            Gemar 19 November 2012 21: 14
            0
            Your "arguments" don't color you. In kindergarten, I proved my point of view more confidently.
      2. urzul
        urzul 19 November 2012 16: 04
        +1
        What does he have in common? do not dedicate?
        And the J-20 Chinese has disappeared from view and it seems like it’s completely or again problems with the glider, it’s impossible to assemble the glider from the usual materials for aviation (look at ARJ), but here the composites are needed (they still speak of stealth)
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 November 2012 23: 31
          0
          Yes, everything will have its time, maybe a couple of dozen pieces have already riveted
          1. urzul
            urzul 20 November 2012 09: 52
            0
            The first flight of 2008 year, certification according to optimistic forecasts only in 2014 plan to pass. 6 years, and after all in their country 90's did not collapse as in Russia
      3. ikrut
        ikrut 19 November 2012 17: 53
        +3
        In fact, this is all the cloning of the Wright brothers' aircraft. See the root :))))))
  3. Tjumenec72
    Tjumenec72 19 November 2012 10: 19
    +2
    SMALL PHOTO !!!
    really wanted to look at the prototypes
    1. Tjumenec72
      Tjumenec72 19 November 2012 10: 31
      +1
      why minus that - even what is described in the article is not represented by photots
      why people tease - told but not shown smile
      here they are rotorcraft ...


    2. Tjumenec72
      Tjumenec72 19 November 2012 10: 48
      +2
      and here is their hydro monster

      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 19 November 2012 11: 13
        +4
        It looks very much like the An-12 transporter squeezed into a redan ... And if this is really so, then we must admit that this is a very stupid and practical solution ...
      2. Windbreak
        Windbreak 19 November 2012 11: 45
        +5
        It looks like this is based on Harbin SH-5 (made its first flight in 1976) done, but with a different tail
    3. Splin
      Splin 19 November 2012 13: 00
      +4
      I already gave a link - This is posted by the Chinese themselves in the Indian forum.
      http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/china/43639-airshow-china-2012-a.html
  4. John from the USA
    John from the USA 19 November 2012 10: 36
    0
    The second Chinese project of the fifth generation fighter - Chengdu J-20 - was not presented at the exhibition. Visitors not only could not see the prototype of this fighter near, but did not even receive any information about it.

    Precisely prepare the layout, very, very similar to the PAK-FU T-50.
    1. Tjumenec72
      Tjumenec72 19 November 2012 10: 39
      +2
      then it will be the THIRD stele-pepelats)))
  5. webdog
    webdog 19 November 2012 11: 15
    +3
    not so simple in the aircraft industry ...
    China still cannot launch a medium-range aircraft into production, and there are no wide-body aircraft at all. this is because the problem with the airframe (strong vibrations) and the engine to copy "approximately" is not enough, you need to have technology and school. while China has a weak school of aircraft engineering, but they will gnaw the granite of science, they will buy technology together with the developers themselves, and in the end they will create their own school. apparently it will be 90% similar to the Soviet-Russian ...
    At the moment, the data on the j-31 is inconsistent and incomplete, especially since this is not a combat aircraft, but a prototype. There are suspicions that two Russian RD-93 engines stand on it. since they didn’t. the thrust vector is apparently not able to change, the shortened take-off is doubtful. However, the J-31 has a twin landing gear, which makes it suitable for use on aircraft carriers.
    http://pro-samolet.ru/blog-pro-samolet/482-the-first-flight-of-stealth-fighter-j
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  6. 916-th
    916-th 19 November 2012 11: 45
    0
    From the article: About the J-31 fighter, which the Chinese attribute to the fifth generation, not too much was said ...

    In fact, according to reports from the Renmin Daily:

    "... October 31 fighter fourth generation The Jian-31, developed by the AVIC Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, accompanied by the Jian-11, successfully completed its first flight in the test flight center of the new Shenfei aircraft.

    The wingspan of this combat aircraft is 10.70 m, length - 15.47 m, height - 4.57 m, wing area - 42.7 square. Maximum take-off weight - 27 thousand 215 kg, maximum combat load - 5897 kg.

    "Jian-31" is equipped with two turbofans with 13A twin rotor engine, the driving force of each turbofan reaches 8300 kg. "
    1. Tjumenec72
      Tjumenec72 19 November 2012 12: 04
      +1
      The fact is that the Chinese consider generations differently.
      They have less of them, you have four. The Raptor and PAK FA are also 4th generation.
    2. webdog
      webdog 19 November 2012 12: 06
      +1
      I did not find anywhere mention of the 13A engine
      give me a link!
      some fresh information from experts:
      "We supply to China the AL-31F, AL-31FN, D-30KP-2 and RD-93 engines," said Kornev, who heads the Air Force department at Rosoboronexport. "We have a framework contract for deliveries of up to 500 engines. They have chosen the first hundred, and now commercial negotiations are underway on the next addition," he added.

      As the head of the delegation said, aircraft engines continue to occupy a significant place in the Russian export of military products to the PRC. As for the Chinese developments of aircraft engines, Kornev found it difficult to assess their quality. "We were not allowed to see them as experts," he explained.

      The expert said that issues of Chinese interest will be discussed at the next meeting of the Russian-Chinese intergovernmental commission, which will be held on November 21 in Beijing. From the Russian side, it is led by the new Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu.

      Note, according to Chinese sources, the Russian RD-93 turbojet engines developed by Klimov, in particular, are installed on one of the prototypes of the latest fifth-generation fighter that China has recently tested.
  7. snek
    snek 19 November 2012 11: 57
    +4
    Exhibition stands:

    1. traitor made in China

    2. SAM FD 2000

    3. Anti-aircraft gun LD 2000

    4. cruise missile (sort of) WJ-600
    1. Windbreak
      Windbreak 19 November 2012 12: 14
      +4
      WJ-600 strike UAV
      1. snek
        snek 19 November 2012 12: 22
        +1
        Quote: Burel
        WJ-600 strike UAV

        +. I was confused by the form - it looks like a tamahawk.
        1. Simple
          Simple 19 November 2012 13: 12
          0
          If the goal is standing, they will be used as a cruise missile.

          It is painfully long.
    2. webdog
      webdog 19 November 2012 12: 23
      +2
      WJ-600 is an impact UAV
      wings are too developed for a cruise missile ...
    3. Simple
      Simple 19 November 2012 12: 39
      0
      von snek:
      4. cruise missile (sort of) WJ-600

      However, CDs are progressing in the range of tasks performed.
      If this is an option of a reusable combat platform, then the landing will be
      tough.

      [media=WJ-600%20Combat%20UAV%20-%20CGI%20presentation%20at%20Zhuhai%20Airshow%20
      2010]



      I do not understand Chinese gibberish.
      Maybe someone is strong, as the Chinese WJ-600 described?
      1. snek
        snek 19 November 2012 12: 57
        +2
        Quote: Simple
        Maybe someone is strong, as the Chinese WJ-600 described?

        Well, along the way, like a reconnaissance-strike UAV, judging by this video here:
        1. Splin
          Splin 19 November 2012 13: 08
          0
          Do you think he's reconnaissance? Then in these containers is humanitarian aid.
  8. webdog
    webdog 19 November 2012 12: 18
    0
    aren't these the characteristics of 13A?

    Thrust in full force. Mode
    8300kg

    Max. Thrust afterburner mode
    5040kg

    Beats full boost fuel consumption
    2,05 kg / kg h

    Beats fuel consumption for max. afterburner mode
    0,77 kg / kg h

    Air consumption
    75,5 kg / s

    Bypass Degree
    0,49

    Total degree of pressure increase
    21

    Length
    4229 mm

    Diameter
    1040 mm

    Dry weight
    1055 kg

    Assigned Resource
    1400 hours

    Overhaul resource
    700 hours

    only this is rd-93
    1. 916-th
      916-th 19 November 2012 20: 30
      0
      Webdog: aren't these 13A specifications?

      The Chinese do not hide the fact that their WS-13A is a copy of our RD-93. Only a deteriorated copy - the resource before overhaul is 3-4 times less. http://paralay.iboards.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&p=248770
      1. 916-th
        916-th 19 November 2012 20: 46
        0
        Read more about the J-31 and its engines here:
        http://paralay.com/jxx_litl/jxx_litl.html
      2. not good
        not good 20 November 2012 00: 31
        +1
        Quality will be replaced by quantity when there will be 10 of them on one of ours.
  9. Xtra1l
    Xtra1l 19 November 2012 13: 50
    +3
    They do not hesitate to copy;
    1. Simple
      Simple 19 November 2012 14: 35
      +2
      Chinese saying:
      Who managed to copy the master, became the master himself.
  10. nekromonger
    nekromonger 19 November 2012 16: 01
    +2
    still their saying: to give out a fish eye for pearls.
  11. Yankuz
    Yankuz 19 November 2012 16: 03
    +2
    The Chinese are a very cunning nation! You have to keep an eye on them! Is always!
    1. ikrut
      ikrut 19 November 2012 17: 57
      +2
      That's for sure. One of the few sensible comments about the Chinese. From me "+"
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  13. Mairos
    Mairos 19 November 2012 17: 57
    +4
    Copyists are bad.
    http://www.militaryparitet.com/html/data/ic_news/1064/

    They can NOT sell ANYTHING out of the technique, they will change the thread pitch on one bolt and declare their development.
    Honestly, China, at times, is simply annoying with its unceremonious arrogance.
    1. not good
      not good 20 November 2012 00: 36
      0
      There would be an appropriate law to sell not before they enter service with our aircraft, or at least 2-3 years after adoption, otherwise they themselves do not yet, but over the hill with joy, and then oh they copied.
  14. Beck
    Beck 19 November 2012 21: 03
    +2
    I have been saying China for a long time. And here, all the USA and the West. You can negotiate with them. With the Chinese dragon, no. In about ten years, China will eat all the brains of the Eurasian Union. The past congress of the CPC of China set the task - in 10 years to become the first economy in the world, and accordingly the military. And the Chinese leadership, like all Communists, does not have the value of human life. If they set the task of world domination, then without looking and without regret, they will sacrifice 500 million lives of their Chinese for this. They will not consider other lives of other nations.
    1. not good
      not good 20 November 2012 00: 41
      +1
      What value of human life can be said if the loss of 10% of the population of such a country would be more likely to be good for the country itself. You can be sure that in case of conflict the Chinese will destroy the male part of the population of the occupied territory, why should they compete in the gene pool.