“For the first time I agree with Putin”: British readers about the requirement of the Anglican Church to “gender-neutrally” address God

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“For the first time I agree with Putin”: British readers about the requirement of the Anglican Church to “gender-neutrally” address God

This month, the Anglican Church announced that it was considering alternative ways to refer to God in the masculine form, “He.” This happened after the priests asked to be allowed to use "gender-neutral" terminology in relation to him. In Britain, they have not yet decided what they will replace the words "Our Father" in the main Christian prayer.

This fact was mentioned in his address to the Federal Assembly today, Russian President Vladimir Putin. In his opinion, such a decision indicates that the West does not know what it is doing and is moving towards a spiritual catastrophe.

British readers of the Mail Online on the issue of the requirement of the Anglican Church to "gender-neutrally" address God unexpectedly found themselves in solidarity with the Russian leader, as can be seen from their comments.

In particular, one of them noted with surprise that for the first time he agreed with Putin.

I never thought that I would have anything in common with the dictator Putin, but in this I absolutely agree with him

- wrote another.

Speaking about the speech of the President of Russia in general, the journalists of the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet considered it not bright enough, which, in their opinion, was also reflected in the reaction of those present.

He struggled to keep the audience in good shape and alertness.

- it is said in the article published by the edition.

Not only the media, but also official representatives of Western countries reacted promptly to the speech of the President of the Russian Federation. In particular, US national security adviser Jake Sullivan called the Russian leader's statement that the special operation was a forced response to military threats from the West and Ukraine “absurd”.
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  1. +2
    21 February 2023 17: 45
    The modern clip consciousness of the layman can hardly concentrate on something longer than a TikTok video. Hence the confusion and reluctance. Waiting for the show. So that it was fun so that everyone gasped. And then he came out and said. he talks for five minutes, ten minutes, half an hour, he keeps talking and talking, but when is the first trick? what does that say? Yes, what's the difference in tricks, they never waited .... But in fact, what is there about the "grabbing" of property? about withdrawn capital? about kids abroad, bank accounts, mansions? As if it never happened! how to unmask now? as if there was nothing to discuss. And tomorrow the meeting of the Duma and Sofeda think only about the road to Kazan will be? Oh well...
    1. +6
      21 February 2023 17: 47
      One thing is interesting to me, our media read foreign media, and they also quote our posts?!
      1. +12
        21 February 2023 17: 52
        Yes. I read bourgeois forums and, what is most interesting, many people have, if not support, then understanding.
        1. -2
          21 February 2023 18: 06
          many people have, if not support, then understanding

          support from them will have to wait a long time, because for them we are a fat cutlet
      2. HAM
        +3
        21 February 2023 18: 09
        Of course. They have so many "institutions for the study of EVERYTHING" that one can be amazed .... as they say, "we do not plow and do not sow ...."
      3. 0
        21 February 2023 18: 15
        Ours are not. Why embarrass the natives? Different sobchachek, Makarevich and the like is quite possible. They will not say too much (for Western people, of course)
    2. +4
      21 February 2023 17: 51
      Quote: voice of reason
      Modern clip consciousness of the layman

      It's hard to disagree with you about consciousness when they have a "smartphone" instead of brains.
      1. +2
        21 February 2023 18: 16
        What do we have today? The same. Soon we will become just like them, with our smartphone organ in our heads.
    3. +1
      21 February 2023 18: 21
      Quote: voice of reason
      Hence the confusion and reluctance. Waiting for the show. So that it was fun so that everyone gasped.

      This is an annual, but the country's strategy. It must be even and level.
      Aah and groan will be at various stages of its implementation.
    4. -2
      21 February 2023 18: 40
      Is this, like, about "dad in Kyiv"?
    5. -4
      21 February 2023 23: 58
      Hence the confusion and reluctance. Waiting for the show. So that it was fun so that everyone gasped. And then he came out and said. five minutes talking, ten minutes, half an hour, everything is talking

      Yes, but in these words it was said about MAIN.
      In fact, it is his keynote speech that sets the framework for RECEIVER, indicates the course in which either Putin himself will move (health to him!), Or his RECEIVER.
      ---
      So some forces (who have recently filled the entire media field with their person) will be very sad.
      For their plans are not destined to come true.
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    1. +6
      21 February 2023 17: 52
      So the president, by his position, is supposed to look more broadly than a couch expert to look at the world around his country ...
  3. +6
    21 February 2023 17: 50
    In Britain, they have not yet decided what they will replace the words "Our Father" in the main Christian prayer.

    In Christianity, the Anglican Church is considered a sect, but not a Christian religion. So sectarians can do whatever they want, because any sect is not from God, but from Satan.
    1. +1
      21 February 2023 18: 43
      Quote: tihonmarine
      In Britain, they have not yet decided what they will replace the words "Our Father" in the main Christian prayer.

      In Christianity, the Anglican Church is considered a sect, but not a Christian religion. So sectarians can do whatever they want, because any sect is not from God, but from Satan.

      So they don't hide it
    2. -4
      21 February 2023 20: 05
      Quote: tihonmarine
      In Christianity, the Anglican Church is considered a sect, but not a Christian religion. So sectarians can do whatever they want, because any sect is not from God, but from Satan.

      Oh, these religious disputes within confessions. Hardly anyone thinks about God or Satan - only politics is on their minds.
  4. +6
    21 February 2023 17: 50
    By the way, during Bidon's visit to the pig-breeders, Spain legally allowed bestiality...
    Of course, it could just be a coincidence, but...
    1. +4
      21 February 2023 17: 55
      There is even cooler there - for the murder of a rat that entered the dwelling from 12 to 24 months in prison!
      1. +1
        21 February 2023 18: 46
        Quote: evgen1221
        There is even cooler there - for the murder of a rat that entered the dwelling from 12 to 24 months in prison!

        It is interesting to listen to the judicial investigation on these facts. laughing
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    2. +5
      21 February 2023 17: 58
      As I understand it, now x about xly in Spain will not die of hunger?
      hi
    3. +7
      21 February 2023 18: 04
      Quote from Bingo
      By the way, during Bidon's visit to the pig-breeders, Spain legally allowed bestiality...
      Of course, it could just be a coincidence, but...

      And it all started so harmlessly.
      1. 0
        21 February 2023 18: 42
        Quote: Michael
        Quote from Bingo
        By the way, during Bidon's visit to the pig-breeders, Spain legally allowed bestiality...
        Of course, it could just be a coincidence, but...

        And it all started so harmlessly.

        smart video laughing
      2. -1
        21 February 2023 18: 45
        Quote: Michael
        Quote from Bingo
        By the way, during Bidon's visit to the pig-breeders, Spain legally allowed bestiality...
        Of course, it could just be a coincidence, but...

        And it all started so harmlessly.

        I hope (sure) our Russian men have stopped at this stage (photo) wink drinks
        1. -2
          21 February 2023 20: 09
          My woman is crazy about the fox ears on the headband and the fox tail. And it's tearing down my tower. This is where I stop.
          However, there is no punishment for bestiality in the Russian Federation. For cruelty to animals there is, but suddenly the animal liked it ... wink drinks
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  5. +3
    21 February 2023 17: 53
    This is a highly complex theological debate.
    Does God have a gender, and if so, what gender is he?

    First of all, God is a spirit, and He is not subject to human characteristics and limitations.
    Also, both man and woman were created in the image of God, but they are not "little copies" of God. The fact of the existence of different sexes of mankind does not mean that God must necessarily have male or female features.

    But in the countless references to God in the Bible, the constant use of the masculine gender to describe God is evident. Although God is not a man, He chose a male form to reveal Himself to mankind. In addition, Jesus Christ, while on earth, also took on a male form.

    And more:
    https://foma.ru/pochemu-bog-muzhchina.html
    1. amr
      +5
      21 February 2023 18: 28
      Well, actually, a person with his little mind is not able to realize the power and possibility of the Creator!
      it’s stupid to attribute gender nonsense to him at all! After all, God is one, he has no partners, everything else is herest!
      So Jesus was a messenger, like Gabriel, like Moses, like Noah!
      By the way, we noticed that there are no women envoys and never have been!
      1. -2
        21 February 2023 18: 49
        Quote: amr
        Well, actually, a person with his little mind is not able to realize the power and possibility of the Creator!
        it’s stupid to attribute gender nonsense to him at all! After all, God is one, he has no partners, everything else is herest!
        So Jesus was a messenger, like Gabriel, like Moses, like Noah!
        By the way, we noticed that there are no women envoys and never have been!

        but for some reason, Cyril did not applaud this, unlike the others, he sat with a stone face, perhaps it was impossible for him according to church laws ...
      2. -6
        21 February 2023 19: 08
        In Christianity, Jesus Christ is not a messenger "like someone out there." It is God Himself. In his second incarnation.
      3. 0
        21 February 2023 19: 37
        By the way, we noticed that there are no women envoys and never have been!


        You probably meant "prophet" and not "messenger"?
        If so, then there are multiple references to female prophets in the Bible. Read carefully.
        Several women there are explicitly called prophetesses:
        Miriam - Exodus 15:20-21
        Deborah - Judges 4:4-5
        Isaiah's wife - Isaiah 8:3
        Huldah - 4 Kings 22:14
        Noadiah - Nehemiah 6:14
        Anna - Luke 2:36
        daughters of Philip - Acts of the Apostles 21:8-9.

        And by the way, the Greek word for messenger is "angel".
        The question of whether angels have gender is also very interesting and controversial.
        Ever since the Middle Ages they have been portrayed sometimes as men and sometimes as women.
        And for example, in Islam it is clearly stated that the concepts of male and female are not applicable to angels.
      4. -2
        21 February 2023 19: 42
        Quote: amr
        man with his small mind is not able to realize the power and possibility of the Creator!

        It was enough to come up with a god and a religion.
        Quote: amr
        By the way, we noticed that there are no women envoys and never have been!

        Because patriarchy reigned among the founders/inventors of the Abrahamic religions. Although in other cultures, female goddesses were present. Athena, for example, or Bastet.
        If now, in a tolerant Western society, they came up with a new religion, then God in their minds would look like a transgender Negro.
    2. -5
      21 February 2023 18: 42
      at the time when the church was born, women had no rights at all, so God was appointed a man. It is clear, it is clear that he is asexual, but in general he hardly thinks about such garbage.
    3. +4
      21 February 2023 18: 42
      It seems that everywhere and everyone specifically states that He is the Father. Or are there variations in the context of Jesus being his son? Maybe they will even think of excluding Sodom and Gomorrah from the Holy Scriptures or will they find a different interpretation?
  6. +1
    21 February 2023 17: 54
    Right now, I would like to see what they write on the dailymail, to put it mildly, they are sitting there completely moved
  7. 0
    21 February 2023 17: 54
    It is a
    happened after priests asked to be allowed to use "gender-neutral" terminology towards him. In Britain, they have not yet decided what they will replace the words "Our Father" in the main Christian prayer.

    Will decide soon...
    In Spain, people were officially allowed to copulate with animals ... only gently, without causing them physical suffering.
    To be honest, I'm shocked and prostrated by such an innovation of the Spaniards. belay what
    Every now and then I look Borrell, some kind of excited, jumps up to the party meetings of the European Commission ... he has started a chicken coop in his house.
    1. +2
      21 February 2023 18: 32
      Rather, he brought himself a donkey for nightly pleasures
    2. +2
      21 February 2023 18: 50
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      It is a
      happened after priests asked to be allowed to use "gender-neutral" terminology towards him. In Britain, they have not yet decided what they will replace the words "Our Father" in the main Christian prayer.

      Will decide soon...
      In Spain, people were officially allowed to copulate with animals ... only gently, without causing them physical suffering.
      To be honest, I'm shocked and prostrated by such an innovation of the Spaniards. belay what
      Every now and then I look Borrell, some kind of excited, jumps up to the party meetings of the European Commission ... he has started a chicken coop in his house.

      In short, thank God that we are their enemies! Yes
    3. 0
      21 February 2023 18: 50
      In Spain, people are officially allowed to copulate with animals...


      And what, earlier it was officially forbidden?
      Let them come to us if it infringes on them.
      In Russia, this is not prohibited by law in any way (unless it falls under cruelty to animals).
      And in some places in the south (I heard) it is quite widely practiced.
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  9. +1
    21 February 2023 18: 02
    On the one hand, it’s like the sodoms and gomora of the West, and on the other hand, the world is changing rapidly, for example, if a child is not given a phone and a computer, it will be difficult for him to get settled in life, even if he has better eyesight than his peers who imprisoned him. And no matter how we remain disenfranchised Old Believers, it will not work to sit out in the global world in the taiga. Yes, it sounds monstrous, but traditional values ​​always lose to the new. The future is generally for robots with artificial intelligence and gender will not matter there and no one will remember God. And yet, God forbid that the Karenins, because of their sick legs, could not stand in the service in the church, and therefore those who consider the church to be otavism remained in the minority.
    1. amr
      +1
      21 February 2023 18: 30
      so that's the question, what not to fence stupidly, like the Old Believers! but you need to withstand that golden mean! and this applies to everything except digital technologies and tablets ...
      be it life, character, yes even love! As my grandmother used to say - children should be loved when they sleep!))
    2. +1
      21 February 2023 18: 58
      Quote: alexey_444
      Yes, it sounds monstrous, but traditional values ​​always lose to the new. The future belongs to robots with artificial intelligence

      There is no need to scare the Old Believers and artificial intelligence ...
      I wonder in what technologies, for example, China lost, while maintaining its historical and moral values?
  10. -1
    21 February 2023 18: 02
    The devil knows who really writes there and from where ... Anyone can plug in a VPN, and even if it’s supposed to be done by position, even more so ... Even I, the miserable one, to read the impossible news for the most stubborn audience of the crazy euro pigsty, I go to the Censor either through the English or through the American server...
  11. +4
    21 February 2023 18: 05
    Soon the God of the Anglo-Saxons will be a Negro-lesbian. Single, of course. And a member of the database in Ukraine.
    1. -1
      21 February 2023 19: 05
      Quote: Denis812
      Soon the God of the Anglo-Saxons will be a Negro-lesbian. Single, of course. And a member of the database in Ukraine.

      And her motto: stupidly cut, mow, bleed ...!
  12. -7
    21 February 2023 18: 06
    For several days I read the Washington Post, ordinary, everyday news, not a word about Ukraine and Russia, and this is not a tabloid press for you, this newspaper has a name.
    1. +4
      21 February 2023 18: 16
      Yes, okay: "Putin said that Russia will suspend participation in the START-3 nuclear agreement."
      Here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/
    2. 0
      21 February 2023 19: 07
      Quote from Hello
      Been reading the Washington Post for days

      I'm so sorry! crying
    3. -2
      21 February 2023 19: 53
      Quote from Hello
      For several days I read the Washington Post, ordinary, everyday news, not a word about Ukraine and Russia



  13. 0
    21 February 2023 18: 07
    Quote from Bingo
    By the way, during Bidon's visit to the pig-breeders, Spain legally allowed bestiality...
    Of course, it could just be a coincidence, but...


    This is not a coincidence or a coincidence!
    1. 0
      21 February 2023 19: 08
      Quote: Alex20042004
      Quote from Bingo
      By the way, during Bidon's visit to the pig-breeders, Spain legally allowed bestiality...
      Of course, it could just be a coincidence, but...


      This is not a coincidence or a coincidence!

      Ah, then what is it?
  14. +4
    21 February 2023 18: 13
    Quote from Hello
    For several days I read the Washington Post, ordinary, everyday news, not a word about Ukraine and Russia, and this is not a tabloid press for you, this newspaper has a name.

    What other name...
    Now I went to the Washington Post website ... there are a lot of articles about both Ukraine and Russia ... there is no need to powder the forum users' brains.
  15. -2
    21 February 2023 18: 15
    nothing surprising, they had more than one homosexual sitting on the throne, and in closed educational institutions there are still those morals
  16. +3
    21 February 2023 18: 26
    Can you say what you think about gender? No. Can you stand outside an abortion clinic and pray? No, they will arrest you. Can you pray for freedom of speech? No, they will arrest you. Can you paint the roof of your house any color? No, they will be fined. Can you go to nature and have a picnic, or just go fishing? No, only for money. So where is freedom of speech and totalitarianism? Of course, in Russia, where all this is possible, totalitarianism.
  17. -1
    21 February 2023 18: 58
    How easy it is to tell the truth and not lie! And YELTSIN, Drunkard could name another candidate?! Putin’s party did a “well done” in the 1998s. Although we didn’t care, we had to survive. money in pillows, enriched.
  18. -1
    21 February 2023 19: 16
    Europeans turn from humans into animals, as the main thing in their life is: to eat and sex in a variety of ways. Nothing else interests them. They are bored. They have taken pedophilia out of the category of a crime, they advertise LGBT, in Spain bestiality is no longer a crime. And they got to God, they want to make him a eunuch. Our country was dragged into this horror!
    1. -2
      21 February 2023 19: 47
      Quote: Irina Vinogradova (Lagoda)
      since the main thing in their life is: to eat and sex in a variety of ways

      well, animals don’t think about sex all the time, but only at a certain time by nature
    2. 0
      22 February 2023 09: 40
      Such is the essence of the capitalist world view. The most important thing in life is to please yourself. There are no spiritual values ​​that can interfere with this process. The simplest ways of self-satisfaction are sex and food. Religion has fought these views for many years, knowing full well the consequences. But it was outright defeated by capitalism.
      The USSR offered a fundamentally different view of the world. Alas, the worshipers of animal self-satisfaction united in their bestiality and destroyed it. I really wanted a watch for a million dollars, and malleable females for some amounts.
  19. -2
    21 February 2023 19: 18
    Strange topic. Yes, no matter how they call him or her, the essence, even according to the scripture, incomprehensible to mortals, God will not change. Then what is the point of the article. Like them and what ours said. It would be better, as in a joke. thinking about home...
  20. -1
    21 February 2023 19: 20
    I never thought that I would have anything in common with the dictator Putin, but in this I absolutely agree with him

    - wrote another.

    Nothing, soon he will finally see the light, if only it weren’t too late ...
  21. SNA
    -1
    21 February 2023 21: 23
    Quote: tihonmarine
    In Britain, they have not yet decided what they will replace the words "Our Father" in the main Christian prayer.

    In Christianity, the Anglican Church is considered a sect, but not a Christian religion. So sectarians can do whatever they want, because any sect is not from God, but from Satan.

    Someone suddenly. One of the many streams. There are no number of them there, I'm tired of counting, there are more than a dozen Pentecostals alone. So that...
    1. 0
      22 February 2023 09: 34
      And all these currents are sects) Every single one. Well, religions are like that. I will say more, for the Orthodox Church, Catholics are schismatics. And for Catholics - Orthodox ...
  22. 0
    22 February 2023 08: 43
    Not a bad article. That's just our youth for the most part will not read it. Do you know why? Because young people in our country are not able to keep their attention on any text that exceeds two paragraphs. They are so educated and trained that they have attention like a guppy fish. You can talk to them very intelligently. Only they will not hear you, their attention will be cut off almost immediately.
    Yes, the West has a spiritual catastrophe. And we have?
  23. 0
    25 February 2023 02: 30
    The show didn't work! The show has been going on in our country for 20 years! They say one thing and do another! The people are impoverished, and trust in Putin is growing! You in the West never dreamed of such a show!

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