The first Soviet ekranoplans - experimental ekranoplanes CM

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The ekranoplan - in the official Soviet classification the so-called dynamic air cushion ships - vehicles with high speed, flying within the limits of the aerodynamic screen, that is, at a relatively low altitude (up to several meters) from the surface of water, ice, snow or earth. With equal speed and mass, the winged surface of the airplane was significantly smaller than that of the aircraft. According to the International Classification (IMO), this type of equipment belongs to sea vessels.

Ekranoplans are unique devices that can be operated on a wide variety of routes, including those that are inaccessible to ordinary ships. Together with higher seaworthiness and hydroaerodynamic qualities than other high-speed vessels, W-RVs almost always have amphibious properties. They are able to move not only along the water surface, but also along solid (ice, earth, snow) and also be based on it. Thus, WIG combines the best qualities of the aircraft and the vessel.

It should be noted that the development of shipbuilding was associated with solving a rather acute problem of increasing the maximum speed of vessels. In this case, the maximum speed of displacement vessels is limited by the wave resistance and is of the order of 25-30 km / h for river and 50-60 km / h for seagoing ships. Application to reduce the wave resistance of hydrofoils or planing allows you to bring these figures to 100-120 km / h. However, due to their low seaworthiness, the speedboats were not widely used in practice and were preserved mainly only as sports vessels. At the same time, various hydrofoil vessels became much more widespread, and the Russian scientist and designer R. E. Alekseev (1916-1980) made a decisive contribution to their creation. The efforts of this designer in the 1940-60-ies of the XX century was created by the Soviet sea and river passenger fleet on hydrofoils, which retains world leadership in high-speed water transport to this day.
The first Soviet ekranoplans - experimental ekranoplanes CM
Ekranoplan CM-2

Back in 1940-ies, working on projects of torpedo boats on hydrofoils, Alekseev ran into the problem of hydrofoil cavitation — a phenomenon associated with boiling water in the dilution zone, which drastically reduces its hydrodynamic characteristics, violates the flow around the wing, limits the economically feasible the speed of movement of a hydrofoil with a maximum speed in 100 km / h. So it was possible to find out that hydrofoil vessels turned out to be unpromising in relation to work to further increase their speed characteristics.

This discovery was one of the main reasons in shipbuilding for the revitalization of work on finding a new principle of vessel traffic, which would be free from the noted fundamental flaws - cavitation and wave barriers. Eliminating these barriers, at the same time getting rid of both wave formation and cavitation, would be possible only by eliminating the vessel’s contact with the surface of the water.

Work on such vessels was begun in the 1930-40-ies of the XX century, when the first real proposals for the creation of vessels using aerodynamic support forces. It took a significant amount of time and effort to create such vessels that could compete on equal terms with already existing technical solutions. Such vessels for the first time in world practice were represented by the Russian high-speed ships-ekranoplans designed by Alekseev — the impact ekranoplan “Lun” and the landing ekranoplan “Orlyonok”.

However, the path to the creation of these machines was quite long. The first domestic proposals for the use of aerodynamic forces near the screen when moving high-speed ships R. E. Alekseev expressed in the 1947 year, and in the 1958 year he led the work on the creation of practical EKP samples for the needs of the Soviet Navy. On the basis of the scientific and experimental base established by the designer for the development of high-speed ships, by the time of 1960, the first aerohydrodynamic layout of an airplane was created, called the “tandem” or “two-point”. It was a logical realization of the ship’s scheme on 2's lightly submerged hydrofoils.
Ekranoplan CM-5

In 1961, the first self-propelled model of an WIG was created and built under this scheme, known as CM-1. 22 July of the same year during the tests the first flight of the Soviet WIG was performed. In the first test flight, the machine was piloted by R. E. Alekseev himself, who was the head of the Central Design Bureau for the SEC and the chief designer of the apparatus. By the autumn of 1961, the ground-driving vehicle was mastered to such an extent that, being completely confident in the reliability of the vehicle, he began to invite guests from Moscow to the demonstration flights. The flights of the first Soviet ekranoplan SM-1 were demonstrated, in particular, to the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy S. G. Gorshkov, secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU D. F. Ustinov, Chairman of the State Committee for Civil Engineering B. E. Butome. Demonstrations of the capabilities of the wig were more than convincing. The distinguished guests from the capital appreciated the novelty and expressed a desire to ride an ekranoplane, under the personal responsibility of R. E. Alekseev. Their desire was granted. In the process of testing SM-1 was able to reach speeds of the order of 200 km / h.

Further work was carried out to improve the aero-hydrodynamic layout of the apparatus. The new self-propelled model, the CM-2, was ready in the 1962 year. To improve its takeoff and landing characteristics, for the first time in world practice, engines were used to lift the carrier under the wing. Alekseev put forward the idea of ​​inflation even at the end of 1959, but it took a whole range of experiments to be done before it was possible to develop practical recommendations on the choice of the concept of blowing. The aero-hydrodynamic layout implemented on the CM-2, became the prototype of the layout of all the first domestic W-ray screens.

At the suggestion of Ustinov, who was already familiar with the project, at the beginning of May 1962, the SM-2 ekranoplan was shown personally to N. S. Khrushchev, as well as to other members of the Soviet government. The demonstration was organized on the waters of the Khimki reservoir near Moscow, not far from the Khrushchev dacha. From Gorky, the ground-effect vehicle was delivered to the Moscow region by a Mi-10K helicopter crane. Although during the performance of the demonstration flights, the CM-2 was never able to go into the design modes, the ground-wing vehicle (WIG) managed to make a rather favorable impression on Khrushchev. Perhaps it was precisely because of this that the state program was soon adopted, which included the creation of new ekranoplans, as well as the creation of combat ekranoplans for the needs of the Navy and other types of troops. At the same time, it was decided to build a full-size experimental ground-effect vehicle (WIG), designated KM.
Ekranoplan CM-6

In the 1962, another ekranoplan was ready, which was different from those already created, it received the designation CM-3. The ekranoplan was built to conduct aerodynamic layout studies using a small wing extension. It was implemented scheme blowing under the wing: nozzles located in the toe of the wing on its lower surface created a jet curtain along the entire leading edge, while the engines themselves were located in the fuselage.

In the 1963 year, another sample of the experimental ground-effect vehicle was prepared, designated CM-4. It was a further development of the CM-3 model with two engines - a sustainer and a starter, as well as a crew increased to 3. Behind the nozzle of the first engine was located the gas steering wheel to control the ekranoplan at low speeds. The adjustable nozzle system of the starting engine sent gas jets under the winged surface effect vehicle.

In the same year 1963, the construction of a large-scale copy of a giant CM WI called CM-5 was completed, the copy was made on the scale of 1: 4. The following year, the 1964, the SM-5 ekranoplane crashed. The ekranoplan crashed, hitting a very strong oncoming airflow. The car rocked very sharply and lifted. WIG pilots turned on the fast and the furious, trying to gain altitude, but the CM-5 broke away from the screen and lost stability, the crew died as a result of this catastrophe. This accident was the first disaster with ekranoplanes of the SM family.

After that, the construction of new experimental WIG family SM slowed down a bit. The next ekranoplan SM-6, designed to study the problems of hydro and aerodynamics, as well as strength, was designed and built in the 1972 year in Sormovo in the Central Design Bureau for hydrofoil vessels (CDB SEC), which was headed by R. E. Alekseev. This machine was also created for the development of technological solutions of the Eaglet heavy transport-transport ekranoplan later created on the basis of the CM-6. The power plant of this ground effect vehicle included the 3 engine: a sustained AI-20 AFD, which was installed on the keel and 2's main cruise-assisted turbojet engines, which were designed to facilitate take-off.
Ekranoplan CM-8

The experimental ekranoplan SM-6, as well as the "Eaglet" was designed according to the normal aerodynamic design of the boat low planes, having a T-shaped tail. The glider was made of alloy and steel AMG-61, as a corrosion protection special coating was used, as well as an electrochemical protector. The ekranoplan fuselage was a beam-stringer design, the bottom was formed by a redan system, as well as 2 hydraulics, to which were attached the nose and main landing gear.

Before 1972, another ekranoplan was built, designated CM-8. It was made in the 1967 year after the disaster with the CM-5 and was the second analogue of the future KM vehicle, made on the scale of 1: 4. This ekranoplan became the latest in the line of experimental ekranoplans of the “SM” family. The results of the work on these machines made it possible to create not just a theory, but also develop a methodology for creating and designing new types of heavy civilian and combat ekranoplans.

The tests of the SM-8 WIG took place in parallel with the tests of the world's largest aircraft KM (ship-mock-up), which by its acronym in the West received the unofficial nickname “Caspian Monster”. On the ekranoplane CM-8, the test method of the CM was tested. At the same time, the leading test-pilots, as well as the commander of the test-flight unit of the TsKB for SEC VFLoginov, flew at SM-8 and KM.

Information sources:
-http: //www.airwar.ru/enc/xplane/sm1.html
-http: //www.airwar.ru/enc/xplane/sm4.html
-http: //www.airwar.ru/enc/xplane/sm6.html
-http: //www.airwar.ru/enc/xplane/sm8.html
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
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  1. +1
    19 November 2012 08: 22
    It is a pity that Alekseev was not given aviation steels, and he had to make such excellent machines from steel that was intended for ships.
    1. -4
      19 November 2012 09: 59
      The inexpediency of creating ekranoletov has been explained more than once here, except for the power’s prestige
      1. vladsolo56
        +1
        19 November 2012 11: 42
        no one explained intelligibly, do not practice lying. Who exactly here can put himself on a par with Alekseev, and who will believe that there are such ingenious specialists here.
        1. -1
          19 November 2012 16: 06
          Quote: vladsolo56
          no one explained intelligibly, do not practice lying.


          the main explanation is that the idea of ​​screens was abandoned all over the world (the pelican and crew do not need to be remembered - this is just a beautiful fantasy of the designer)
          1. +3
            19 November 2012 17: 54
            I do not agree. WIG has its own niche. There were times when a helicopter was perceived in the same way.
            1. Antistaks
              -3
              19 November 2012 18: 14
              It's like in an anecdote about the anus - there is a niche but it is sooooo narrow.
        2. Antistaks
          -4
          19 November 2012 18: 12
          If you want intelligibly, then in brief, this is the case:
          With the advent of capitalism, hydrofoil ships disappeared - because they are very voracious.
          And the ekranoplan is an airplane all flight located in TAKEOFF MODE. Do you know how much the plane eats in take-off mode? If you don’t know then just count the number of engines in the photo.
          1. +4
            19 November 2012 18: 28
            Quote: Antistaks
            A winged aircraft is an entire flight located in TAKEOFF MODE

            You don’t know the materiel. An eaglet has 1 engine on a cruising flight. Then the plane does not use the screen effect. And this, incidentally, gives an increase in aerodynamic quality.
      2. +3
        19 November 2012 14: 43
        Such a flight of thought, but at the same time it is necessary to build them.
        Or at least not "give a fuck", and then we will "bite" our elbows.
        1. Antistaks
          -5
          19 November 2012 18: 15
          That's right - we’ll die but we will fly (I finally can for the production of pork and TVs)
          1. +1
            19 November 2012 18: 33
            That is how aviation was built in the 20-30s. There was no sausage, but they built aircraft.
      3. Antistaks
        -2
        19 November 2012 18: 06
        Here is the site, how a person will tell the truth so minus.
    2. Antistaks
      -3
      19 November 2012 18: 06
      Do you know the basics of aerodynamics or just a good enough telly.?
      1. 0
        19 November 2012 18: 29
        Who are you?
  2. -7
    19 November 2012 08: 31
    All the benefits of the screen effect are discounted by the low-altitude ekranoplan flight. The plane flies in the discharged layers at the border of the troposphere and stratosphere, and this unicorn goose has to make its way through the densest air at the surface of the earth.

    As a result, all benefits and savings are lost - the device eats even more fuel (pay attention to the number of engines in the "Lun" or "Eaglet"!), Carries the same load (you can compare Lun and An-124 or Orlenok with An-22) and flies twice as slow. At the same time, unlike an aircraft, the area of ​​application of an ekranoplan is limited to open sea spaces.

    The idea turned out to be a dead end.
    1. +10
      19 November 2012 08: 36
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      The idea turned out to be a dead end.
      Then why are they being revived now?
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      As a result, all benefits and savings are lost - the device eats even more fuel (pay attention to the number of engines in the "Lunya" or "Eaglet"!),
      Greater consumption and operation of all engines only at the moment of separation from water to overcome its resistance, then only 2 engines work.
      1. -1
        19 November 2012 13: 35
        Quote: Mechanic
        Then why are they being revived now?

        Currently, no one, in any country in the world, is working on ekranoplan projects
        Maximum - 2-seat funny actions are created to amuse the public or beautiful drawings of ekranoletov (such as ECIP), created by the designer’s imagination
        Quote: Mechanic
        Greater consumption and operation of all engines only at the moment of separation from water to overcome its resistance, then only 2 engines work.

        Unfortunately, this is a myth. All 8 Moon engines operate most of the flight.


        All these shortcomings were revealed already during the first tests of the ekranoplanes, and despite all the efforts of Alekseev and Beriev, the idea was not viable.

        The main disadvantages of ekranoplan:
        - profitability worsethan the plane
        - 2 times slower than the plane
        - limited scope - the aircraft can deliver cargo to anywhere in the world (through mountains, cities and oceans), and the screen only over the open sea.
        - poor maneuverability (ekranoplan can’t heel too much to turn - three meters under the water plane)
        - the eco-plane is more dangerous than the plane - the flight altitude of several meters does not leave pilots a chance to make a mistake, and the water is 800 times denser than air.
        1. walter_rus
          +2
          20 November 2012 00: 20
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          All 8 Moon engines operate most of the flight.

          This is also a myth. WIGs successfully flew with the shutdown of some engines.
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          - the eco-plane is more dangerous than the plane - the flight altitude of several meters does not leave pilots a chance to make a mistake, and the water is 800 times denser than air.

          Alekseev developed a balanced aerodynamic design that ensured the flight was stabilized in height, which was still duplicated by automation. This just did not work for foreign designers, including the famous Bert Rutan. Their ekranoplanes then dived and jumped. In the United States, there were projects of devices with a take-off mass of 2000 tons, but they did not dare to build such ones.
      2. Antistaks
        -4
        19 November 2012 18: 22
        They revive because the FIRST TROUBLE in Russia has not been canceled.
        As for the two engines, I strongly doubt it - after all, you have to pay for the screen effect. And do you know why jet planes have two ranges - near the ground and at the optimum (approximately 10 km) altitude?
        1. +3
          19 November 2012 18: 52
          Everything is clear to everyone about the flight range. You only then take into account that there is an appropriate flight mode that is most advantageous from the point of view of the power plant (minimum specific fuel consumption) and there is an optimal mode from the point of view of the glider (maximum aerodynamic quality)
    2. vladsolo56
      +3
      19 November 2012 11: 45
      you’re right so smart where Alexeyev is before you, you probably have academic titles and scientific works, is it worth it to get up and criticize the person who made so many cars with your little mind. have you done something in your life?
    3. MakSim51ru
      +5
      19 November 2012 13: 43
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      The idea turned out to be a dead end.

      Yes, it’s not so dead-end as it seems to you — to have a tool that develops a much higher speed compared to sea ships, less radar visibility and the ability to carry powerful enough weapons, including anti-ship missiles, is worth a lot.
    4. +2
      19 November 2012 14: 44
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      As a result, all benefits and savings are lost - the device eats even more fuel (pay attention to the number of engines in the "Lun" or "Eaglet"!), Carries the same load (you can compare Lun and An-124 or Orlenok with An-22) and flies twice as slow. At the same time, unlike an aircraft, the area of ​​application of an ekranoplan is limited to open sea spaces.


      1) Then, for the sake of clarity, you need to redesign the WIG according to aviation standards.
      2) Not only sea spaces - any flat surface.
      1. -2
        19 November 2012 15: 28
        Quote: Zerstorer
        Then for the purity of comparison, it is necessary to redesign the WIG according to aviation standards.


        WIG Eaglet
        20 tons payload
        cruising speed 400 km / h
        Engines:
        2 x turbojet NK-8 (similar to Tu-154)
        1 x NK-12 Turboprop

        An-22 Antey
        60 tons payload
        cruising speed 600 km / h
        Engines: 4 x NK-12 Turboprop

        Where are the savings and super-features of the screens?

        Quote: Zerstorer
        Not only sea spaces - any flat surface.

        Those. open sea spaces
        1. +5
          19 November 2012 18: 08
          Well, where is the mass recount ... Are you aware that the mass of the glider will seriously decrease if everything is normal to do as in the aircraft industry.
          You are trying to compare a tank, an armored train and a river monitor. The ekranoplan can solve problems that neither airplanes, nor helicopters nor hovercraft can solve.
          1. -3
            19 November 2012 20: 48
            Quote: Zerstorer
            You are aware that the mass of the glider will seriously decrease if everything is normal to do as in the aircraft industry.

            Then the price of the goose-unicorn surpasses all reasonable limits


            Quote: Zerstorer
            The ekranoplan can solve problems that neither airplanes, nor helicopters nor hovercraft can solve.

            For example?
            1. +1
              24 November 2012 14: 11
              I apologize for the long absence.
              Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
              Then the price of the goose-unicorn surpasses all reasonable limits

              Her. The A-40 amphibious seaplane has a normal price. Why should the Eaglet have a beyond? If you do everything without NANO-ONANO technologies, then the price should be quite sane.
    5. Antistaks
      -4
      19 November 2012 18: 18
      As soon as a person writes a TECHNICAL TRUTH it is minus. It can be seen here only illiterate cheers patriots. Like those that anti-personnel cassettes are sewn through.
      1. +4
        19 November 2012 18: 35
        Quote: Antistaks
        As soon as a person writes a TECHNICAL TRUTH it is minus. It can be seen here only illiterate cheers patriots. Like those that anti-personnel cassettes are sewn through.

        I didn’t minus you. Just tell me what is your TECHNICAL TRUTH?
        1. 11Goor11
          +1
          20 November 2012 01: 58
          Zerstore
          Just tell me what is your TECHNICAL TRUTH?

          Can I answer the words of Mr. Antistaks?
          That's right - we’ll die but we will fly (I finally can for the production of pork and TVs)

          That's the whole "truth".
          You dear Antistaks, emigrate to the United States and join the crowds of fat men in Walmart / Chew and walk with a satisfied look between the kilometer-long shelves of sausage and TVs. Your personal paradise.
  3. +9
    19 November 2012 09: 04
    Hello to all.
    The ekranoplan carries an equal load with the aircraft - ".. carries the same load (you can compare Lun and An-124 or Orlyonok with An-22) and flies twice as slow."
    But the cargo can deliver to the place. Get splashed and unload. On a drilling platform, say.
    And do not throw the load with a parachute.
    Or freeze airfields.
    Or use a thuja pile of turntables.
    No, it is possible, of course, to deliver cargo with a ballistic missile. Local. With a circular deviation of 100m. Only ... delivery is fast. And the preparation is slow.
    ...
    WIG - a good solution in emergency situations.
    But war is always an emergency.
    1. -3
      19 November 2012 13: 46
      Quote: Igarr
      But the cargo can deliver to the place. Get splashed and unload. On a drilling platform, say.

      To supply the drilling platform, a helicopter is more profitable:
      - the ability to transport oversized cargo on an external sling
      - convenient loading / unloading process
      - cheaper
      Quote: Igarr
      WIG - a good solution in emergency situations.


      The cruising speed of the "Eaglet" ekranoplan is 400 km / h
      Cruising speed IL-76 - 800 km / h

      Flight range of "Orlyonok" - 1500 km
      Flight range IL-76 with a load of 20 tons - 8500 km

      Question: which is better in an emergency?
      1. not good
        +5
        19 November 2012 14: 17
        In an emergency, it’s better to splash down anywhere than to fall into the forest with a full load of 20 tons.
        1. -1
          19 November 2012 14: 25
          Quote: Negoro
          How a marine lifeguard ekranoplan is indispensable

          How do you plan to explore the sea surface from a height of 5 meters?

          The best marine lifeguard - a pair of heavy helicopters (search and refueling)
        2. +2
          19 November 2012 14: 52
          Was there a thought? To build for the needs of the Ministry of Emergencies, that would save on the water.
      2. +1
        19 November 2012 14: 53
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        Question: which is better in an emergency?
        You still forgot the airfield needed ..
        1. -2
          19 November 2012 15: 33
          Quote: Zerstorer
          You still forgot the airfield needed ..

          Just a flat area (on land or on a ship)

          The fact remains - it makes no sense to use an ekranoplane for rescue operations - at a speed of several hundred km / h, at an altitude of 5 meters, he simply can’t detect those in distress wink
      3. 0
        19 November 2012 16: 15
        To supply the drilling platform, a helicopter is more profitable:
        - the ability to transport oversized cargo on an external sling
        - convenient loading / unloading process
        - cheaper

        I’ll add that with a static platform and sea waves, FIG, which you unload from an ekranoplan, it’s not a ship with an open platform
      4. Antistaks
        -2
        19 November 2012 18: 28
        I understood it is not possible to convince them - they are simply BELIEVERS but believe not in God but in ALEXEEV. I’ll go here and now the law is on insulting believers .............
        1. -1
          19 November 2012 20: 45
          Quote: Antistaks
          I understood it is not possible to convince them - they are simply BELIEVERS but believe not in God but in ALEXEEV. I’ll go here and now the law is on insulting believers .............


          WIG is still nonsense. You should have seen the massacre taking place during the discussion of Stalin laughing
        2. walter_rus
          0
          21 November 2012 00: 23
          By the way, atheists are also believers (they only believe in the ABSENCE). And adequate people are trying to figure it out, considering the problem from different angles. With ekranoplanes, the main problem is that Alekseev made the maximum use of the insufficient financing that was allocated to him only thanks to his phenomenal energy (even his employees could not withstand the frantic pace of work set by him), but the tests of his equipment did not end, which did not allow to proceed to creating more perfect designs.
  4. Yoke
    +4
    19 November 2012 10: 11
    No matter how silly it sounds, Alekseev died at the wrong time. I am more than sure that he would defend his offspring, and ekranoplanes would take their rightful place in our army. Again, a number of shortcomings, which, in essence, were children's diseases, since the very concept of ekranoplan was an innovation, it could be eliminated.
    1. -3
      19 November 2012 13: 47
      Quote: Iga
      a number of shortcomings, which, in essence, were childhood diseases, since the very concept of ekranoplan was an innovation, it could be eliminated.

      Could not. He worked on ekranoplans for several decades. The idea itself is not viable.
      1. +3
        19 November 2012 14: 50
        The idea itself is not viable. Prove ... Comparison with the plane is not correct, to put it mildly. In the transport and landing operation of the fleet, ekranoplanes have no equal. As for the maneuverability, it seems to me that you don't understand well how the ekranoplan is controlled. Read Belavin's book "Ekranoplanes".
        1. -1
          19 November 2012 15: 31
          Quote: Zerstorer
          In the transport and landing operation of the fleet, ekranoplanes have no equal.

          The flight range of Orlyonka with a load of 20 tons of whole 1500 km!
          1. +1
            19 November 2012 18: 11
            It’s not a matter of pouring less fuel. Carry more cargo.
            1. -2
              19 November 2012 20: 43
              Quote: Zerstorer
              It’s not a matter of pouring less fuel. Carry more cargo.

              Why is such a problematic goose unicorn needed? The plane (the old An-22) takes on board 3 times the cargo and carries 2 times further))))
          2. walter_rus
            +1
            20 November 2012 00: 08
            What about speed compared to landing ships? Or stealth compared to a parachute landing? For example, in the fastest hovercraft, both speed and range are lower and economy is not better.
  5. borisst64
    +2
    19 November 2012 10: 16
    And yet this is our achievement, and no one has created anything like it. Technologies are developing, perhaps they will create an ekranoplane without old flaws.
    1. -2
      19 November 2012 13: 49
      Quote: borisst64
      Technologies are developing, perhaps they will create an ekranoplan without old flaws.

      You cannot fool Mother Nature. The air density at the surface of the earth is ten times higher than at an altitude of 10 000 m. All the savings from the screen effect disappear.
      1. +2
        19 November 2012 15: 28
        Don’t forget, to get 10km you also need fuel ...
        1. -1
          19 November 2012 16: 03
          Quote: Zerstorer
          s don’t forget, to get to 10km you also need fuel ...

          These costs are vanishingly small compared to the gigantic density of air at the surface of the earth.
          1. 0
            19 November 2012 18: 12
            Yes, but if the flight goes to a considerable range. say 5000km. and for a range of 1500 or less, another question.
        2. Antistaks
          -1
          19 November 2012 18: 29
          Do not forget - the descent from 10 km is FREE.
      2. MakSim51ru
        +1
        19 November 2012 15: 33
        .
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        You cannot fool Mother Nature. The air density at the surface of the earth is ten times higher than at an altitude of 10 000 m. All the savings from the screen effect disappear.


        So this should be considered a plus - it is easier to create the necessary pressure under the lower edge of the wing.
        1. -1
          19 November 2012 16: 01
          Quote: MakSim51ru
          So this should be considered a plus - it is easier to create the necessary pressure under the lower edge of the wing.


          It’s you who read Munchausen. When he pulled himself by the hair.
          The lifting force is matched by the pressure difference ... are you crazy?))))
          1. MakSim51ru
            +1
            19 November 2012 18: 03
            That's it. The higher the air density, the easier it is to create the necessary pressure — in other words, with other factors being equal, the minimum speed for the flight will be lower.
          2. walter_rus
            +2
            20 November 2012 00: 12
            In airplanes, the pressure difference is created primarily by rarefaction above the upper surface, and in the ekranoplan, compression under the wing is also added, therefore, it allows to increase the load on the wing.
  6. +4
    19 November 2012 12: 46
    I saw them live on the Caspian Sea guys all day on the beach, he always walked in 1,5-2km from the coast, beautiful.
    1. +2
      19 November 2012 13: 24
      Yes, in Kaspiysk in the 86-87s, he also fell in love with his time.
  7. 0
    19 November 2012 17: 21
    Quote: Drednout
    Just a flat ground

    Do you imagine the cost of this "level ground"? And if the landing operation?
    1. -2
      19 November 2012 20: 50
      Quote: Zerstorer
      Do you imagine the cost of this "level ground"?

      Cheaper than WIG Maintenance Infrastructure
      Quote: Zerstorer
      And if the landing operation?

      transport planes to the captured capital airport
  8. +3
    19 November 2012 18: 25
    Arguments like no one does this, which means we don’t need to - babble on the lawn, sorry. For example, in the world, very few people make helicopters in a coaxial fashion. And we do.

    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
    WIG Eaglet
    20 tons payload
    cruising speed 400 km / h
    Engines:
    2 x turbojet NK-8 (similar to Tu-154)
    1 x NK-12 Turboprop

    An-22 Antey
    60 tons payload
    cruising speed 600 km / h
    Engines: 4 x NK-12 Turboprop

    Where are the savings and super-features of the screens?


    Mi-26
    20 tons payload
    cruising speed 255 km / h
    Powerplant 2 GTE D-136

    Well, in this way Helicopters are generally a dead end branch of aviation development.
    1. -1
      19 November 2012 20: 39
      Quote: Zerstorer
      Well, in this way Helicopters are generally a dead end branch of aviation development.

      Do not compare helicopters, they have their own specific features, the most important of which are:
      - the ability to hang in the air
      - delivery of bulky goods on an external sling

      And the ekranoplan is just trying to duplicate the tasks of the aircraft, but it’s not good at it
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        24 November 2012 14: 18
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        And the ekranoplan is just trying to duplicate the tasks of the aircraft, but it’s not good at it

        It’s you yourself who are driving the eco-plan into this framework.
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  10. +2
    19 November 2012 22: 54
    All argue and argue ... Hovercraft are not economical ... Hydrofoils are not advisable ... However, all the largest passenger crossings in Europe are carried out including using ships built using these technologies. Britain is a continent, at least only 6 lines are known to me, Spain - islands and Africa - 3 lines, Greece mainland - islands - did not count (including the use of our former rockets, comets). The head must be turned over and for people to work without offending themselves.
  11. walter_rus
    +4
    20 November 2012 00: 02
    The construction of ekranoplanes was carried out primarily thanks to the penetrating abilities of Alekseev, and it was also very lucky that Ustinov and Gorshkov were at the same time. And when these people were gone, then the topic began to curtail gradually, and with the onset of perestroika - finally. The prejudice experienced by sailors towards aviation played a role, and as a result, formally - a ship, but in fact - no one needed the plane. And it is easy to find application for it, both civil and military. And military use should be combined with other types of equipment (navigation, communications, target designation, basing). And you want to immediately create a miracle weapon that will plug everyone in the belt with single copies. In naval rescue operations, the helicopter is certainly convenient, but the range is negligible, and the ship (which can deliver the helicopter to where it is needed) is too slow. Seaplanes of the Be-200 type will land only on calm water. And ekranoplanes have a sufficiently strong body (this is why its low efficiency is connected) to take off and land on a decent wave. So "Eaglet" repeatedly lost flaps and crumpled the skin during takeoff on a wave, but did not lose its flying qualities. "Lun" has the same salvo power as a ship, but has the ability to enter the launch area and return from there 10 times faster, which reduces the likelihood of being hit by the enemy. And in case of failure, the loss of personnel is much less - the crew is very small compared to the ship. Look at what the "Lun" is dragging on the "back" - what kind of economy there will be. And with an increase in size, efficiency will increase. Low efficiency was also associated with the features of the power plant. Of course, the "Rescuer" was created on the basis of the shock "Moon". In a storm it is difficult to lift people on a wing that lies at water level. But Alekseev had many projects that never came to fruition, including completely different from what we see in metal. So it is premature to declare ekranoplans a "dead-end branch", especially if you know about them only from TV films or the Internet.
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      20 November 2012 14: 54
      and opponents are not interested.
      They talydychat, as if wound up - planes are higher, helicopters are quieter.
      even crack - compare different classes.
      Compare horse and bull .... on both animals plow.
      so they ... comparison.
      1. walter_rus
        0
        20 November 2012 23: 42
        I will also add that serious ekranoplanes were created using the technologies of the 70s (not even 80s). A lot of such topics were closed due to the fact that they were ahead of their time. Alekseev is a great designer. If he had finances like Howard Hughes, it’s hard to imagine what he would have achieved. And he had to "knock" them out in the government, which took a lot of time, effort and health. In addition, let me remind you that modern warfare is a war of complexes, not a single super-weapon.

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