Not subject to further transfer: Luna-25 - Russia's return to the Earth's natural satellite

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Not subject to further transfer: Luna-25 - Russia's return to the Earth's natural satellite
Station "Luna-25". Source: laspace.ru


Important year


The year 2023 promises to be full of space events. Both abroad and in Russia.



For the Americans, the repeatedly postponed launch of the Vulcan Centaur rocket, designed to replace the Atlas V and Delta IV heavy-class rockets, looks important. But most importantly, the project will make it possible to abandon Russian RD-180 engines. Homegrown BE-4s use liquid methane as fuel, while the Russian equivalent runs on kerosene. At the end of January, the first rocket arrived at Cape Canaveral and should go into orbit in the coming months. A pair of experimental satellites and the Peregrine lunar module are expected to be placed on board the heavy Vulcan Centaur.

And a few whims of the rich - more than one and a half hundred samples of DNA and ashes from the crematorium will be loaded into the rocket. This is the Celestes Memorial Spaceflight project, offering everyone who wants to find peace in solar orbit.

Boeing is promising to launch a seven-passenger Starliner into low-Earth orbit in April. This is a reusable vehicle capable of ten orbital cycles with a return to Earth. The first flight is planned to the ISS, and if the Americans succeed, they will become virtually independent from the Russian Soyuz MS.

The reusable Starship from SpaceX is somewhat less likely to actually fly in 2023. The two-stage super-heavy rocket is designed to deliver up to 150 tons of cargo into near space. This is with the option of returning to Earth and reusing. If there is no such task, then the carrier can lift up to 250 tons into low orbit. However, while these are theoretical calculations and promises of Elon Musk, who, as you know, often announces events much ahead of schedule.


"Luna-25" in its natural habitat. Source: laspace.ru

Against the backdrop of the Napoleonic plans of competitors, designed, among other things, to oust Russia from space, the domestic Luna-25 program was lost. Meanwhile, this should be the most important event for the Russian space industry. For the first time in the latest stories a robot-explorer with a “Made in Russia” sign will appear on the moon. The launch of the station has been repeatedly postponed, which, in general, is customary for world cosmonautics, but it is precisely at the current time that Russia needs this program. And the point is not even in the exploration of the Moon - now such problems are completely speculative - but in international prestige. The Luna-25 mission will show the potential of the country and the ability to adequately respond to Western sanctions. We have not had space holidays for a long time - it's time to remind about the existence of Roskosmos.

Luna-25 for the South Pole


The last time a domestic product made a soft landing on the moon was in 1976. It was the Luna-24 station, which not only landed on the Earth's satellite, but sent home 170 grams of lunar soil. Although Russia is the legal successor of the Soviet Union, the country is not formally classified as a “moon power”. So far, only the United States, the USSR, and China have succeeded in exploring the moon.

The lead developer of the interplanetary station is NPO im. S. A. Lavochkin, on whose website the Luna-25 project is characterized as a "small-sized demonstration landing station for testing the basic technologies of soft landing in the circumpolar region and conducting contact studies of the South Pole of the Moon."

Why the South Pole? First of all, the main goal of the mission is precisely to study the polar regolith (residual soil after space weathering or simply lunar soil), which may contain water ice. As scientists assure, the presence of water and other volatile substances in the lunar soil may in the future become decisive for the development of a natural satellite of the Earth by man. Water may have been brought to the Moon by comets and asteroids, and it may be in a quite stable state in so-called "cold traps". It is very cold at the poles of the Moon, and neither lunar rovers, nor astronauts, nor stationary probes have even tried to get there.

The lunar soil, which could be delivered to Earth, was collected in various ways in the latitude range from 39 deg. With. sh. up to 9 deg. Yu. sh. "Luna-25" for the first time in the world will try to land much to the south and fall into truly hellish conditions - on a lunar night, the temperature drops to minus 200 degrees and below. The requirement to "stay alive" after spending the night on the moon is almost the most difficult in technical execution. In dry scientific language, this one looks like this:

“The little-studied terrain and a large temperature gradient require the creation of special optoelectronic systems that ensure the accuracy and safety of landing, as well as the use of a thermal control system that includes isotope devices.”

Under such conditions, the device must operate for at least a year. Luna-25 will be powered by a solar battery and lithium-ion batteries, and warm on frosty moonlit nights by a radionuclide thermoelectric generator. The thermal power of the last device reaches 145 W, which should be enough for the stable operation of the station.






"Luna-25". Source: laspace.ru

There are many factors to consider when choosing a Luna 25 landing site.

First, the temperature regime of the soil must exclude the evaporation of water, which could potentially be present on the satellite.

Secondly, it is necessary to comply with the requirements of radio visibility. And here there are difficulties. Russia currently has access to ground-based space communication stations: Bear Lakes, Baikonur, Ussuriysk and Evpatoria - this is about 20 hours of communication with the lunar station. Previously, they counted on the NewNorcia station in the southern hemisphere in Australia, but now, for obvious reasons, the participation of Australians is unlikely. There is hope for the Argentine space communications station Malargue.

Thirdly, the relief of the lunar south imposes restrictions. According to known data, potentially "water-bearing" areas are unsuitable for soft landing, and those that are suitable are poorly lit. Without going into the complexity of a planetary scale, we mention that the staff of the Space Research Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences for Luna-25 selected eleven potential landing sites. The water content of the local regoliths, by mass, presumably ranges from 0,062 to 0,193 percent.

Polar exploration of the moon


NPO named after Lavochkin was once among the world leaders in the construction of interplanetary vehicles. "Luna-25" should confirm the superiority of the production association in this area.

Initially, the project was called "Luna-Glob". For the first time, the topic of lunar stations appeared in the office in 1965 - then the NPO was called the Design Bureau of the Machine-Building Plant named after Semyon Alekseevich Lavochkin. At the end of the 60s, Luna-9, 10, 11, 13 were launched, and in the early 70s, new-generation devices Luna-16 and beyond went to the satellite. The technique delivered soil samples and wheeled moon rovers to Earth.

By the way, until 2020 no one was able to repeat the automatic delivery of lunar soil. There were also Americans, but the astronauts did it with their own hands in a manned mission. The priority of the Soviet Union was interrupted by China with its Chang'e-5 probe - it sent about two kilograms of moon soil to Earth.






We will wait for this unit on the moon this fall. Source: laspace.ru

"Luna-25" will not deliver soil to Earth, but represents a new word in the development of the nearest space object. Following the "twenty-fifth" into space will go "Luna-26" - an orbital station for remote studies of the surface of the Earth's satellite. The product must be able to map the Moon for mineral composition, determine the distribution of water reserves and explore the exosphere (essentially deep vacuum) of the planet.

Based on the plans before the special operation in Ukraine, the launch of this mission was planned a year after Luna-25. Looking forward to Luna 25 in 2023, and Luna 26 in 2024?

But that's not all.

The plans include Luna-27, which is a powerful laboratory capable of drilling a couple of meters, studying the "ionic, neutral and dust components of the exosphere" of the Moon, as well as mapping the interior of the satellite using seismological methods. That is, Luna-27 will first carry explosives to the satellite. The Russian program was originally calculated up to 2050, but adjustments to the right are inevitable.

One can only hope that the engineers of NPO them. S. A. Lavochkina managed to solve the problem with the ill-fated Doppler speed and range meter, which ensures the correct landing of Luna-25. It was this node that prevented the station from being sent into space last fall.
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  1. +21
    22 February 2023 04: 21
    . We have not had space holidays for a long time - it's time to remind about the existence of Roskosmos.

    Yes, I don’t give a damn to everyone.
    Is this going to close the gap somehow? I'm not talking about America! At least from the once backward China? Ask any housewife - she won't even know about this "grand" event.

    . The last time a domestic product made a soft landing on the moon was in 1976.

    Wow. Almost fifty years ago! But Soviet engineers knew how to make galoshes. And what more! And the current ones with modern technologies are only picking their noses.
    1. +16
      22 February 2023 04: 41
      Quote: Stas157
      And the current ones with modern technologies are only picking their noses ...

      ... yes, they are looking for funds in the pockets of the population ...
      Poor disgrace. The purpose of life is to steal, build a castle, a yacht, buy a plane...
      Science was driven out as a servant of speculators, and even the processing of raw materials was not mastered in the right way ...
      The ISS had its own, they set up experiments, they conducted experiments ... And what about today? We patch holes in the skin?
      1. +14
        22 February 2023 05: 27
        The article does not say the most important thing. What carrier will deliver all these products to the Moon? In NPO Lavochkin, you can assemble any unit, but bring it to the moon .. This is not LEO, after all. Previously, all these devices were launched by Proton. Now this missile has been turned off. "Soyuz" will not pull this business. Does Angara-5 remain?
        1. +1
          22 February 2023 05: 45
          will deliver the good old Soyuz.
          1. +9
            22 February 2023 08: 35
            Quote: MBRBS
            will deliver the good old Soyuz.

            The fact that he is old and kind and will serve for more than a dozen years (with upgrades, of course) - I agree with both hands. good hi In general, Soyuz is a cult rocket. The quintessence of Korolev's genius. True, there is a small "but". Her carrying capacity is not for the moon. This carrier had a different range of tasks.
            1. 0
              22 February 2023 12: 05
              Angara, perhaps? In the heavy class 38 tons at LEO
            2. +8
              22 February 2023 13: 04
              According to NPO Lavochkin, this will be Soyuz-2 / 1b with the Fregat missile launcher. As I remember, the Soyuz was always there, and the first launch vehicle built for the mission had to be used for another launch, because its guaranteed shelf life was coming to an end, and Luna-25 was never ready. And the mass of the device is not to say that it is large - 1750 kg (it is not indicated on Lavochkin's website whether it is dry or with fuel, most likely already with fuel).

              By the way, a month ago a European Pilot-D camera was filmed from Luna-25. This is a demonstration camera for navigation and landing on the moon and the only equipment delivered to Russia from Europe in preparation for the mission, apart from simpler components. Pilot-D was delivered in the first half of 2021, but in the spring of 2022, the Europeans refused to work with us. Then it seemed that they planned to launch it and not turn it on, i.e. an expensive high-tech device will be ballast. But they agreed to dismantle it and return it to the Europeans. As far as I understand, this did not shift the launch date, which is even surprising, given the rich history of Luna-25 launch postponements.
        2. +7
          22 February 2023 07: 21
          In NPO Lavochkin, any unit can and can be created, only as it turned out, this takes more than one decade.
        3. +6
          22 February 2023 10: 03
          Stations from "Luna-9" to "Luna-14" delivered Molniya-M rockets to their destination, which were essentially modified by the Soyuz, supplemented by the 4th stage. They were developed for launching interplanetary vehicles to Venus and Mars, then for launching lunar vehicles of the E-6 series.
          Lunokhods and stations "Luna-20" and "Luna-24" were delivered by Protons.
          The current program involves the use of small devices. So the good old Unions will cope.
        4. +4
          22 February 2023 18: 54
          Quote: Proxima
          What carrier will deliver all these products to the Moon?

          - Spacecraft mass: ~1605 kg
          - Mass of KPA: ~ 30 kg
          It is more technological than scientific apparatus
          almost any launch vehicle the current one will be able to
          "Lightning" with block "L" sent WW2 to Venus / Mars

          and here is "Frigate"

          AMS "Luna-24". in 1976 had a mass of 5800 kg, it required "Proton-K / D"
        5. -3
          23 February 2023 19: 38
          Proxima. No need to be nervous. China will buy bicycles with a motor. When the belzin is over, you can pedal with your feet. As a last resort, they will agree with the devils in Hell. There was a film where the devil Cossack was dragged all the way to the capital, and all over the sky.
      2. +5
        22 February 2023 05: 40
        We patch holes in the skin?
        This will give your piece of bread with caviar and wasabi.
        Candle factory, etc.
        "somehow a starship flew up and had to putty it for 2 months, spray coatings, etc.. Basically, they were waiting for the ordered spare parts from Houston ..."
        "We are the first to be repaired in orbit."
        There were taxi drivers, now we will have competencies in servicing used tin cans.
        Not standard bearers
        They themselves came and asked for service in 91g. We were accepted.
        A gas station is more profitable than maintaining a design bureau and a cosmonaut training center.
        1. +7
          22 February 2023 07: 27
          I can hardly restrain myself within the rules so as not to express everything with a foul language. Luna-25 is all that remains of the Soviet space industry... The Chinese, the Americans, the United Arab Emirates are now storming Mars.
          1. TIR
            +7
            22 February 2023 16: 49
            You still have a very good opinion about modern Russian cosmonautics. If we had that backlog in space from the USSR, we would not be practicing landing on the moon right now, as it is written in the article. That is, everything was really stolen and sold. In general, we have lost a lot. In fact, in many sectors of the economy, we are 50-70 years behind the leading countries. Thanks to our leaders. About this side of the medal, Putin is "merited" by his rule? Or all that is good is only attributed to him
          2. +3
            23 February 2023 10: 04
            And here is a photo of the Luna-20 layout, 1972, for example

            from which it can be seen that the landing platform "Luna-25" after 50 years remains the same, illustrating the "progress" of lunar technology.
        2. +3
          22 February 2023 07: 30
          What did you want to say? The fact that they went into service in the 90s is right. You just don't seem to know what happened back then. Otherwise, astronautics would have died at the same time. And so she still lasted almost a decade and a half. But why it began to bend in the first decade of the 21st century is completely incomprehensible to me. This is despite the fact that the rest of the industry began to gradually recover.
          1. +3
            22 February 2023 12: 49
            why it began to bend in the first decade of the 21st century is completely incomprehensible to me.

            Because it was unable to commercialize itself. And grants from the state are clearly not enough.

            There are people who say "oh, cosmonautics flourished in the Union."
            Please remember that it flourished until the mid-70s. And when they learned to rivet hundreds of ballistic missiles in order to send the necessary cargo to Washington, they immediately began to allocate much less money for missiles.
            Glonass, replacing Liana and so on were already done under Putin.

            But again, if it is impossible to commercialize the project, then it is of no interest to anyone except the state. It is necessary to shove national pride into one place and "sell" space.
            Wouldn't the same North Korea or Iran pay a hundred million dollars for their chelas in orbit?
            We need to cooperate with China. They have already bypassed us in space, we must intertwine with them.
            1. -1
              23 February 2023 08: 49
              Say thanks to the red directors who "protected the people's property from the intrigues of enemies", but in fact did not allow them to develop and left the enterprises without protection from defective managers and lovers of singing songs. There is no need to cooperate with anyone, this will now have a negative effect.
            2. +3
              23 February 2023 16: 51
              Because it was unable to commercialize itself.

              Commerce alone will not achieve global goals.
              NASSA is not a commercial structure, it is completely subsidized. And rovers do not bring profit, but nevertheless they exist and travel around Mars.
              1. 0
                3 March 2023 09: 35
                Do you read carefully?
                "if it is impossible to commercialize the project, then it is of no interest to anyone except the state"
                If the US government is interested in the Mars project, then it allocates loot.
                If the state of Russia is not interested in this project, then it does not allocate loot.
                It is impossible to commercialize this interest now.
                It just so happened that you and I are citizens of the Russian Federation and the Russian Federation Mars is NOT interesting. Now.
                Whether you like it or not, this is a fact. At least under the current President.
                Because the United States is developing Mars, but Russia is not.
                Because the US government pays for NASA projects on Mars, and Russia does not have rovers.
            3. -1
              April 15 2023 09: 11
              Are we interested in China in space now? What used to be interesting is understandable. As having competencies. And now, when China operates its station and sends devices to the moon?
      3. 0
        25 February 2023 09: 18
        The quintessence of truth that is not appropriate in the modern system ...
    2. 0
      6 March 2023 16: 50
      No, they are not picking their noses... But we have the coolest and most technologically advanced yachts of the oligarchs in the world! That's where the breakthrough in comparison with the USSR! The soul burns with pride!
  2. +12
    22 February 2023 04: 36
    The current lunar program drags on long and hard, often changing or canceling what was previously approved. Scientific space is not a priority area for the government, but requires decent funds. It’s easier not to do it there at all, according to the principle, although prestige is more expensive than money, shame will not eat out the eye.
  3. +3
    22 February 2023 04: 38
    Quote: Stas157
    We have not had space holidays for a long time - it's time to remind about the existence of Roskosmos.

    It will be April 12th, or October 4th. And the emblem of the USSR on "Luna-2" flew to the moon.
    And who was the first to take pictures of the far side of the moon? A crater named after Mendeleev and
    Who named Lobachevsky?
    1. +10
      22 February 2023 04: 53
      Quote: Private SA
      It will be April 12th, or October 4th. And the emblem of the USSR on "Luna-2" flew to the moon.
      And who was the first to take pictures of the far side of the moon? A crater named after Mendeleev and
      Who named Lobachevsky?

    2. +15
      22 February 2023 05: 15
      Private SA, also "Mir", "Energiya-Buran", "Venus" and "Vega". And all this is the USSR. Alas, not today's Russia. Now to rivet spy satellites, which, as it turned out, are sorely lacking! It will be happiness.
      It will be April 12th...

      pour a glass, take a guitar, sing "Forgive us, Yura" am
      and after the second glass - "I believe, friends, caravans of rockets ..." fellow
  4. -6
    22 February 2023 05: 22
    There were also Americans, but the astronauts did it with their own hands in a manned mission.
    Well, or they collected material from meteorites.
    1. -5
      22 February 2023 10: 13
      astronauts did it with their own hands in a manned mission.

      Very funny story directed by Stanley Kubrick
      1. -1
        23 February 2023 05: 11
        Yes!!! The earth is flat and the stars, led by the sun, revolve around it!!! (sarcasm)
        1. 0
          23 February 2023 05: 51
          Quote: Guran33 Sergey
          Yes!!! The earth is flat and the stars, led by the sun, revolve around it!!! (sarcasm)

          Blindly believing, and even amers, is the lot of the narrow-minded, but I am a doubter! If you understand what it's about...
          1. +3
            23 February 2023 17: 05
            Blindly believe, and even amers

            They have adopted the Artemis program and are about to land on the moon. First test flyby of the Moon 16 Nov. 2022 has been successful.
            On 24 g they plan a manned flight around the moon, in 25 g. crewed to land on the moon.
            We'll see.
            1. +1
              23 February 2023 19: 26
              Quote: nickname7
              They have adopted the Artemis program and are about to land on the moon. First test flyby of the Moon 16 Nov. 2022 has been successful.

              Great, you need to take on the moon. Just not like last time. Either they flew or they didn't. By the way, I think that they flew, but did not land ...
              1. 0
                1 March 2023 13: 55
                And why take on the moon? "To drag chestnuts out of the fire" to satisfy the curiosity of some "scientists", who even do not know where they live.
                I understand "Starlink" as a military communications system, deployed largely at the expense of the budget.
                But, expeditions to the moon, what are they for?
  5. -2
    22 February 2023 05: 23
    I think this station is huge and heavy in terms of its physical size and weight. The level of modern technology allows you to make micro satellites and mini stations. The execution task is much cheaper and easier becomes. Behind this trend.

    Work on the project began 18 years ago, during this time the level of electronics has advanced a lot.
    What an ordinary smartphone can do now is just fantastic things. It is a powerful microcomputer with sensors. I hope the next stations from Luna 25 will take this into account.
    1. -1
      22 February 2023 05: 58
      EMNIP, out of a total weight of one and a half tons, the actual devices weigh 50 kilograms. Therefore, the total weight can be reduced by half if everything is optimized using modern materials and technologies. But no more.
      1. +5
        22 February 2023 08: 02
        Hardly. Rocket engines, oxidizer and fuel tanks, pressurization gas tanks, solar panels - you can't reduce all this in any way. Luna-9 weighed one and a half tons, and the station itself was 100 kg
      2. +2
        23 February 2023 05: 16
        In addition to fuel, the bulk of the weight falls on a strong skeleton capable of holding the entire load at the start and not so "soft" landing despite the relatively low gravity.
  6. +5
    22 February 2023 05: 33
    Unparalleled.
    Aligarhs did not buy 2 yachts in 2010 and for 15 LNT it was possible to have their own station on the moon.
    "Mordashov's lodge" and "Deripaska's dacha" did not happen on the moon.
    Apparently, the development of Russia will take a different path
  7. +4
    22 February 2023 05: 59
    Chief Monsieur Rogozin, do not let this case tongue
    1. +12
      22 February 2023 07: 42
      What's the difference? The current one is no better. Therefore, they continue to paint disposable launch vehicles and give them names. Why do not they put at the head of those who have been doing this business all their lives. Krikaleva, for example.
    2. +1
      23 February 2023 05: 20
      The main thing for you is to smell and the grass to grow there?
  8. +6
    22 February 2023 06: 12
    We haven't had space holidays for a long time
    What have already flown? Let's fly, then there will be a holiday. And at the expense of the holidays, the flooding of the MIR compressor station, is it a holiday for you? Oh yes .. they drowned the galosh.
    1. +2
      22 February 2023 08: 09
      What should have been done? Hang on your chest? There, the modules were designed for a five-year service life, and the station worked for 15 years. During operation, there were two collisions with the Union and Progress and one fire.
  9. +8
    22 February 2023 06: 39
    Yes, today is a holiday, on February 22, 1966, on the biosatellite "Cosmos-110", outbred dogs Veterok and Ugolyok were launched into space, they set a record for the duration of a space flight for living beings for 22 days. Which was beaten, after 5 years, by the Soviet cosmonauts.
  10. -8
    22 February 2023 07: 00
    Quote: Stas157

    Yes, I don’t give a damn to everyone.
    Is this going to close the gap somehow? I'm not talking about America! At least from the once backward China? Ask any housewife - she won't even know about this "grand" event.

    . The last time a domestic product made a soft landing on the moon was in 1976.

    Wow. Almost fifty years ago! But Soviet engineers knew how to make galoshes. And what more! And the current ones with modern technologies are only picking their noses.

    But to talk about nothing is the most sensible thing that came to mind, right?)) The passion to talk everything around doesn’t add any mind or respect to you a single gram.
    1. +8
      22 February 2023 07: 37
      Quote: Tagan
      Passion all around obgovyat neither mind nor respect you do not add a single gram.

      and to the one who discusses everything Soviet, does this apply?
      1. -5
        22 February 2023 08: 00
        And what is the frantic Manichaeism here for? Is the golden age over? So kill yourself, since there is a "solid dream of reason" ahead.
    2. +10
      22 February 2023 07: 49
      So what? In your opinion, it means that you should jump with delight, rejoicing at the launch of a rocket painted in Khokhloma, created almost 70 years ago?
      1. -17
        22 February 2023 08: 11
        The mourners for the USSR remind me of the White Guards with whining romances about the "French bun" - the same snot and the denial of any positive (even dynamics to it). Of course, it’s easier to wind snot on a fist, while admiring the achievements of Hollywood in “space” and air bubbles on the set of Tyconafts’ spacewalk. Schef, everything is gone, they have a drone flying in a technical vacuum and taking selfies on "Mars" under different "Martian" skies - sometimes pink, sometimes blue. And we have a Khokhloma rocket, mind you, not on a thermonuclear - dullness, savagery and squalor.
        I’m more interested in something else - the lifespan of an apparatus with RTG, in the presence of backup power sources and Li-ion batteries, at a distance of the Moon’s orbit is declared at 1 year (orbiters, EMNIP, had 3.5 years, but there the distance is less (energy costs for communication) and cosmic radiation of the RPZ was blocked), when compared with the Hollywood Voyager ... eternal.
        1. 0
          April 15 2023 09: 46
          Oh, it turns out they're all lies? And NASA, probably, no?
  11. +4
    22 February 2023 08: 09
    At the end of the 60s, Luna-9, 10,
    Luna 9, soft landing in February 1966, what kind of late 60's is this?
  12. +4
    22 February 2023 08: 17
    Quote: Dead Day
    Quote: Tagan
    Passion all around obgovyat neither mind nor respect you do not add a single gram.

    and to the one who discusses everything Soviet, does this apply?

    Applicable. The Soviet Union left a huge backlog for long years by human standards. Personally, I am proud that I was born and lived in the USSR. But unfortunately, it had to work in the last years of its existence.
  13. +2
    22 February 2023 08: 43
    Quote: Vyacheslav Ermolaev
    So what? In your opinion, it means that you should jump with delight, rejoicing at the launch of a rocket painted in Khokhloma, created almost 70 years ago?

    Is that the only conclusion you've come to? It's not just about the rocket "painted like Khokhloma", if you haven't noticed. Which, by the way, the vast majority of countries can only dream about. Today's Russia has a human resource more than two times lower than that of the United States, and ten times lower than that of China. After the destruction and looting of Soviet industry, a significant loss of personnel, it seems really more appropriate to jump with delight than to shit. And then, I'm sure that all the scribblers that have gathered here have not made any tangible contribution to what they are trying to talk about.
    1. +6
      22 February 2023 10: 52
      Today's Russia has a human resource more than two times lower
      9 millionth Israel gives out very serious projects and developments, and 220 millionth Nigeria eats bananas smile . Doesn't matter how people, important what.
      1. -4
        22 February 2023 19: 19
        9 millionth Israel brings to the surface very serious projects and developments,

        Two questions -
        First, did they get an education in Israel?
        Second - please announce the entire list (film "Operation Y") of their projects and developments.
        1. 0
          23 February 2023 05: 28
          He simply does not know that most (absolute) projects are the European Union pushing through a pro-Israeli loophole in US laws removing part of the duties on value-added goods in Israel
  14. +7
    22 February 2023 10: 20
    It would be nice if:
    1) They promised to reach the moon by 2015. They did not. No one answered for words and "optimized" money.

    2) Many recent projects have either been canceled or delayed. There is a chance it will be here.

    3) described "Luna-25" under the article - a demonstrator "for testing the basic technologies of a soft landing"
    those. just - "we'll see what happens to her" ...
    1. 0
      April 15 2023 09: 50
      By the 15th, they even voiced the construction of a station on the moon. True, it was in 2003 at the royal or Tsiolkovsky readings and one of the tops of RKK Energia voiced, if I'm not mistaken
  15. 0
    22 February 2023 11: 30
    - on a moonlit night, the temperature drops to minus 200 degrees and below.
    Where is the temperature? Or temperature in general?
    1. -1
      22 February 2023 19: 20
      Where is the temperature? Or temperature in general?

      Temperature "generally" does not exist, it is the temperature of the surface of the moon.
  16. -5
    22 February 2023 11: 38
    The plans include Luna-27, which is a powerful laboratory capable of drilling a couple of meters, studying the "ionic, neutral and dust components of the exosphere" of the Moon, as well as mapping the interior of the satellite using seismological methods. That is, Luna-27 will first carry explosives to the satellite.

    I wonder how many explosives Luna-27 will carry and what type. To study the dust component of the exosphere of the Moon, it is the most - nuclear explosives. And it will help to drill deeper than a couple of meters.
  17. +5
    22 February 2023 11: 48
    "For the third time he threw a net into the sea ..." (c)
    How many times has VO published an announcement of the launch of this contraption? AT 4 ? The first two were exciting, I've been following this project for a long time. I would like to say "well, now they should already be launched, yo-mine!" , but this time I admit that they will launch it, simply for political reasons (such as "be afraid of the West!"). But whether it will fly successfully, land on the moon and work beyond the homeopathic terms - this is already a Question.
    About the real scientific value of a stationary object with a 25 kg scientific load, everything has long been said. But we will assume that the real purpose of the product is the lunar landing experience. This is the right experience.

    In short, I hope this time they will launch it, because if they postpone it again, it will be a "level 80 hand".
    1. 0
      22 February 2023 22: 16
      "For the third time he threw a net into the sea ..." (c)

      Or maybe it's good that they put it off?
      Imagine reputational losses, if this has never happened before, and here again - will something go wrong?
    2. 0
      23 February 2023 17: 17
      How many times has VO published an announcement of the launch of this contraption?

      Alas, for not having real cases, one has to be content with fantasies.
  18. -6
    22 February 2023 12: 15
    Quote: Bolt Cutter
    Today's Russia has a human resource more than two times lower
    9 millionth Israel gives out very serious projects and developments, and 220 millionth Nigeria eats bananas smile . Doesn't matter how people, important what.

    At the same time, Israel does not and will never give out a lot of things that Russia gives out, since you mentioned it. Everything in this world is relative.
    1. +4
      22 February 2023 12: 18
      Israel does not give out and will never give out a lot of things that Russia gives out
      Lately it's been more and more...
    2. +4
      22 February 2023 12: 59
      Camoon! Bad news read)
      Israel has already sent a probe to the Moon, in my opinion in 2019, although at the time of landing they seemed to have lost it. Of course, it is more difficult for them to develop rocket technologies, because this state is not famous for either its cheap hydrocarbons or its powerful metallurgical industry.
      Which, however, does not prevent them from making their own tanks and UAVs, launching their satellites. And all this on an area half the size of the Moscow region.

      Although I am not inclined to overestimate the talent of the Jews, IMHO it is mostly in the organization. Some peoples have a higher level of organization, others have a lower one, despite the fact that the abilities of some peoples can differ significantly from the abilities of others. Natural population selection has not been canceled, and some populations are more tailored to the range of important tasks of our time than others. Under what history imprisoned the Jews, it is clear that the cunning, talented, smart and nerds survived and gave birth to offspring. Typically prone to extraversion and religiosity.
      Such a selection is the result of a "sieve" through which, over and over again, this people had to seep through.
      For the same population of Nigeria, the selection followed a completely different path - their population did not compete like that with others and paid more attention to competition within its own, alternating with acute conflicts outside. Both there and there, it was not so much intellectual qualities that won, but physical and dominant ones, and also high fertility and immunity. If I may say so endurance. The ability to establish internal relations there developed much weaker than among the Jews, because, as I have already noticed, the population devoted much more power to internal competition than to external ones. And the internal one implies less interest in cooperation, because your colleague is also your competitor.
      These same Jews historically lived in small populations, and this developed in them a tradition of strong local, if you can call it that, "self-government." Rather, it is a regulatory population activity of a tactical nature. This was usually done either by some smart person with authority (due to history, again, a stupid alpha could not dominate there - after all, Jewish populations were forced to exist inside others, stronger), or a religious figure.
      That is, the power was local, and focused on the quality of problem solving and the intellect of the ruler.
      In the same historical periods, in the same Nigeria, for example, power within the groups was delegated according to completely different criteria - it was precisely the power of the "alpha" or local bureaucrat (from a larger alpha), the power itself came to a much lesser extent from the ability to decide questions, and much more from the ability to "beat with a stick." When a larger one came to this, a local alpha and established his power, mainly the local "elites" were worried about the infringement of their rights in a certain common (new) group, rather than the loss of "the quality of local self-government."

      If you carefully meditate on the historical selection of the population, then much becomes clear. In our country, both the selection of personal qualities and the selection of power have always been "such a thing", that's where we went - we arrived there.
      1. +1
        22 February 2023 16: 44
        Knell Wardenheart (Knell) --> I agree with the above, except for the last sentence.

        We have: In our country, both the selection of personal qualities and the selection of power have always been "such a thing", that's where we went - we arrived there.

        It is necessary: ​​In our country, both the selection of personal qualities and the selection of power often was "such a thing", that's where we were going, and we arrived there.
        --
        Why? Because if "always" then they wouldn't have reached today in the current configuration, otherwise you laid out everything great good
        1. +1
          23 February 2023 00: 10
          Let me put it as I see it) And thanks for the comment!
          Selection, he sharpens the population for challenges, and somehow makes it resistant. BUT DIFFERENTLY.
          As in materials science, there is strength, there is elasticity. Also, the qualities of populations that allow them to survive - it is impossible to unequivocally say "good" or "bad" these qualities, if they COME with the task of survival and the population replicates.
          So the fact that we have survived to this day does not mean at all that we are endowed with some epic qualities in terms of "very good". We survived because we knew how to survive, often "in spite of", often because we intensely "ate ourselves" as organisms devour their own subcutaneous fat in difficult periods. Any survival has a model - and as such a result (success and survival, in fact), it can be reached in MANY ways. Some of them are more aesthetically necessary, some less. some have a conditionally "cumulative effect", while others, on the contrary, disappear or cut off other options when used, leaving only some sets that sharpen the population more and more for something. There is such a cute beast - Koala. Here her population selection sharpened rigidly under one tree. On the one hand, Koala won - as a species, she survived. On the other hand, she depends on this tree and her "diet" allows her to survive exactly what, sharpening further and further about survival and not progressing.
          Until some point, she will live like this, and then .. then she will die out. Because a good magician has different tricks up his sleeve, and not just one that bores both his own and others.

          Here we are - this is conditionally a "bad magician", we have an increasingly dull set of tricks, an increasingly narrowing selection.
          Our population and geography, and internal politics, and the pressure of the environment - have been sharpened for maximum patience and submission, for tolerance for violence and suppression, for, so to speak, opposition to reality through escapism (and not through its transformation).
          At times, as you have noticed, conditions MAY arise for a (seemingly) reversal of these tendencies - but history shows that this is nothing more than a remission, designed to give a short relaxation for more effective organization of suppression and control. Due to the fact that a vertically oriented system cannot practically evolve smoothly - because if it evolves, then there is a margin of flexibility, and if it is, then its vertical pressure is manifested to a lesser extent. And she rests on it. therefore, it needs periods of redistribution (successes or revolutions) at moments when it becomes so rigid that it is already outright archaism.
          After the "perestroika" everything returns to normal - the column presses, everything works.

          The problem is that in the information technology era, we more often it is necessary to carry out such perturbations, if we do not do this, our population begins to "pressure from below" or exodus outside, destructive processes accumulate. So in 116 years we have consistently lost 2 empires. Our system is "basically" well sharpened under pressure (and all its elements), but very poorly under the "relaxation period", which is so necessary. And it's even worse for competition in the conditions of "open borders", because a situation that is paradoxical for the work of "pressure" arises - suppressed and subordinate elements can "leave their post" and slip away outside. Any. Suddenly.
          This poses fundamentally new challenges for the system (sharpened for its traditional paradigms) and its participants, which are impossible to solve TRADITIONALLY FOR SUCH A SYSTEM. The enumeration of traditional solutions leads to even more fierce raskolbas and panic, to bad results (like Perestroika), etc.
          Thus, the system (and its participants, maximally sharpened for it) come to the point of the need to transform the model OR further reduce it to a "more or less stable configuration". And due to their incarceration, they are trying to carry out this transformation in such a way that the big question is how worse.
          If it does work out, then this will be the first case of luck that you are talking about. The "Soviet breakthrough", or rather a chain of them, was due to a sharp technological leap (including tools and technologies of pressure and coercion) and a couple of inevitable (after extremely hardcore periods of existence) tactical reorganizations-with-relaxations. The system itself remained unchanged within its evolutionary path.
          We no longer have this luxury - we will have to change the paradigms of thinking, otherwise, as a civilization, decline, degradation and the end await us.
          1. 0
            23 February 2023 09: 02
            Quote: Knell Wardenheart
            Let me put it as I see it) And thanks for the comment!
            Selection, he sharpens the population for challenges, and somehow makes it resistant. BUT DIFFERENTLY.
            As in materials science, there is strength, there is elasticity. Also, the qualities of populations that allow them to survive - it is impossible to unequivocally say "good" or "bad" these qualities, if they COME with the task of survival and the population replicates.
            So the fact that we have survived to this day does not mean at all that we are endowed with some epic qualities in terms of "very good". We survived because we knew how to survive, often "in spite of", often because we intensely "ate ourselves" as organisms devour their own subcutaneous fat in difficult periods. Any survival has a model - and as such a result (success and survival, in fact), it can be reached in MANY ways. Some of them are more aesthetically necessary, some less. some have a conditionally "cumulative effect", while others, on the contrary, disappear or cut off other options when used, leaving only some sets that sharpen the population more and more for something. There is such a cute beast - Koala. Here her population selection sharpened rigidly under one tree. On the one hand, Koala won - as a species, she survived. On the other hand, she depends on this tree and her "diet" allows her to survive exactly what, sharpening further and further about survival and not progressing.
            Until some point, she will live like this, and then .. then she will die out. Because a good magician has different tricks up his sleeve, and not just one that bores both his own and others.

            Here we are - this is conditionally a "bad magician", we have an increasingly dull set of tricks, an increasingly narrowing selection.
            Our population and geography, and internal politics, and the pressure of the environment - have been sharpened for maximum patience and submission, for tolerance for violence and suppression, for, so to speak, opposition to reality through escapism (and not through its transformation).
            At times, as you have noticed, conditions MAY arise for a (seemingly) reversal of these tendencies - but history shows that this is nothing more than a remission, designed to give a short relaxation for more effective organization of suppression and control. Due to the fact that a vertically oriented system cannot practically evolve smoothly - because if it evolves, then there is a margin of flexibility, and if it is, then its vertical pressure is manifested to a lesser extent. And she rests on it. therefore, it needs periods of redistribution (successes or revolutions) at moments when it becomes so rigid that it is already outright archaism.
            After the "perestroika" everything returns to normal - the column presses, everything works.

            The problem is that in the information technology era, we more often it is necessary to carry out such perturbations, if we do not do this, our population begins to "pressure from below" or exodus outside, destructive processes accumulate. So in 116 years we have consistently lost 2 empires. Our system is "basically" well sharpened under pressure (and all its elements), but very poorly under the "relaxation period", which is so necessary. And it's even worse for competition in the conditions of "open borders", because a situation that is paradoxical for the work of "pressure" arises - suppressed and subordinate elements can "leave their post" and slip away outside. Any. Suddenly.
            This poses fundamentally new challenges for the system (sharpened for its traditional paradigms) and its participants, which are impossible to solve TRADITIONALLY FOR SUCH A SYSTEM. The enumeration of traditional solutions leads to even more fierce raskolbas and panic, to bad results (like Perestroika), etc.
            Thus, the system (and its participants, maximally sharpened for it) come to the point of the need to transform the model OR further reduce it to a "more or less stable configuration". And due to their incarceration, they are trying to carry out this transformation in such a way that the big question is how worse.
            If it does work out, then this will be the first case of luck that you are talking about. The "Soviet breakthrough", or rather a chain of them, was due to a sharp technological leap (including tools and technologies of pressure and coercion) and a couple of inevitable (after extremely hardcore periods of existence) tactical reorganizations-with-relaxations. The system itself remained unchanged within its evolutionary path.
            We no longer have this luxury - we will have to change the paradigms of thinking, otherwise, as a civilization, decline, degradation and the end await us.

            Fabulous! I completely agree!
    3. +5
      22 February 2023 15: 27
      At the same time, Israel does not and will never give out a lot of things that Russia gives out, since you mentioned it. Everything in this world is relative.

      Yes, militarily, Israel will never issue so many gestures of goodwill and such unwillingness to use weapons on enemy infrastructure. Yes, and I think Israel is also not able to give out such an amount of oligarchy ...
  19. -2
    22 February 2023 12: 49
    Quote: Bolt Cutter
    Israel does not give out and will never give out a lot of things that Russia gives out
    Lately it's been more and more...

    Nothing like this. There will not be enough hands or production areas - they stupidly will not be able to place so many industries and landfills on their territory.
  20. +5
    22 February 2023 13: 40
    "Luna-25" will show the potential of the country


    Amazingly well said.
    The potential is now at the next level - for many years (since 2014) Roskosmos has been preparing to repeat the achievement of 50 years ago.
    "A small demonstration landing station for testing basic soft landing technologies"...
  21. 0
    22 February 2023 13: 55
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart
    Camoon! Bad news read)
    Israel has already sent a probe to the moon...

    You are probably not reading the comments. The fact that Israel sent something somewhere was out of the question.
  22. 0
    22 February 2023 15: 22
    In outer space, in the shade or at a great distance from the Sun, the temperature is not at all higher, but there the question of heating usually does not come up, but rather about thermal stabilization. If there is a heat source on board in space, the problem is how to remove excess heat, and not how to heat it up. Here, apparently, heat removal through the ground is added, but these losses can also be reduced. Can someone clarify the question?
    1. 0
      22 February 2023 15: 37
      Probably here the matter lies in the landing point of the station. As far as I understand, this is a point close to the South Pole of the Moon. Since the Moon does not rotate on its axis, access to sunlight (and the corresponding heating and heat dissipation) is likely to be greatly reduced there. In view of this, it is possible that it is necessary to have an RTG on board as an additional (or main) means of power supply, but also for the temperature regime of devices, because the temperature "in the shadow" of the Moon is quite low (up to -160 on a lunar night), which cannot but affect the quality of the systems, especially in the presence of sharp temperature changes (as you know, there is no convection on the Moon), and they will be very significant, because "in the daytime" on the Moon up to +120. Probably the task of the RITEG, among other things, is to reduce the effect of these drops on the equipment, because only God (and designers) knows what will happen to the mass of units and mechanical. parts with drops in these same 280 degrees, accompanied by compression and expansion, changes in strength and magnetic properties, electrical conductivity, etc.
  23. -5
    22 February 2023 20: 36
    I think in the near future there will be no launch of Luna-25. Until the problem of satellite pests is solved. They are able to shoot balls and disable our military satellites and damage Alliances and Progresses. Recently, Borisov told for a long time that they say space debris pierces our rockets and showed holes. Somewhere 10 mm. Come to think of it, how could a tiny piece pierce the plating? How could he accelerate to such a speed? Sheathing is not made of cardboard, it is of high strength. Klebanov had the same face when he talked about Kursk
    1. +3
      22 February 2023 21: 11
      How could he accelerate to such a speed?
      In near-Earth orbit, a body must have a speed of at least 7,9 km / s, which is exactly what it acquires when entering orbit. And if there is an object on the opposite course, then we easily get a doubling of the speed - 15,8 km / s. That's all.
    2. 0
      23 February 2023 21: 55
      There is no oncoming traffic. All satellites are launched in the direction of the Earth's movement and the debris, respectively, moves in the same way. The speed of movement determines the height of the object's orbit. In other words, in the same orbit, bodies move at approximately the same speed.
      1. 0
        April 15 2023 10: 17
        The same ROSS station is planned to be launched into a polar orbit with an inclination of 98 degrees
    3. 0
      April 15 2023 10: 15
      All this was described in popular science magazines back in the early 90s. For those unfamiliar with the school physics course, the world is full of magic
  24. +4
    22 February 2023 21: 11
    Unfortunately, the article actually ignores the too protracted history of the creation of the Luna-25 project and greatly exaggerates its significance against the background of the real successes of other countries.
  25. 0
    22 February 2023 21: 35
    You can hook a mirror in orbit, with the ability to adjust the focus of the spot. Defocused to illuminate selected areas, focused to illuminate solar panels on the surface. The main thing with the focus is not to overdo it so that all the water does not evaporate.
  26. +3
    22 February 2023 22: 20
    We have survived ... From the satellites and moons that have not yet been launched, we are making a holiday for ourselves ... Eh ...
  27. +3
    23 February 2023 04: 26
    Will Peresild fly?
    Although ... it might be better to send Urgant, or even Ernst.
    Yes, also Kudrin and Narusova with their daughter.
    1. 0
      1 March 2023 14: 02
      There are no objections to the rest of the candidates, but what did Narusova's daughter deserve? Although it sometimes acts out of place, no great harm from it has been revealed.
  28. +1
    23 February 2023 07: 34
    What moon25 . Still its looking. That's where the show is
  29. -1
    23 February 2023 08: 53
    Quote: Aviator_
    At the end of the 60s, Luna-9, 10,
    Luna 9, soft landing in February 1966, what kind of late 60's is this?

    Luna 10 you missed?
  30. 0
    23 February 2023 12: 51
    Maybe after all "return" and not "... return of Russia"?
  31. -2
    23 February 2023 14: 20
    So we in the USSR flew to the moon and took the soil. And what benefit did it bring? 2023-24 will be difficult for our country. 2022 is much more difficult. And then there is the lunar program.
    1. 0
      April 16 2023 23: 09
      Fundamental science is an expensive but valuable thing. Some would be happy to have, but no way. And we inherited
  32. +4
    23 February 2023 16: 42
    The author, having mentioned foreign projects, forgot to recall the Artemis program for the return of man to the moon. The first stage, an unmanned flight around the Moon and the return of the module to Earth, was successful. This is a real deal, a real achievement. And the fact that the launch date for Luna -25 is not an achievement. The author proposes to celebrate some future event. There is a proverb - "do not say gop until you jump over"


  33. +3
    25 February 2023 07: 59
    I laughed at the plans of "competitors planning to oust Russia from space", Russia itself is successfully and systematically leaving space, just look at what was announced in 2010 and what has been done of it and see what has been done in 12 years since the development of the first satellite. The main achievement of the leader is banter with Musk and assurances that he will not succeed
  34. 0
    25 February 2023 15: 32
    There will be laughter if the mission fails. The prestige of the country will fly down the toilet. Now we can’t assemble the ancient Lunokhod, just launching it to the moon is problematic. The apotheosis of 20 years of development
  35. 0
    25 February 2023 16: 14
    I still didn’t understand from the article what list of POSSIBILITIES this lunar unit has this time - what can it do in the 21st century ??? And why does its base painfully remind me of the Lunokhod lander - 2 with missing ramps ??? Although bezrybe and cancer - FISH. In my heart I wish Roskosmos GOOD LUCK in the revival.
  36. 0
    25 February 2023 18: 17
    Quote: Cucumbers
    I think in the near future there will be no launch of Luna-25. Until the problem of satellite pests is solved. They are able to shoot balls and disable our military satellites and damage Alliances and Progresses. Recently, Borisov told for a long time that they say space debris pierces our rockets and showed holes. Somewhere 10 mm. Come to think of it, how could a tiny piece pierce the plating? How could he accelerate to such a speed? Sheathing is not made of cardboard, it is of high strength. Klebanov had the same face when he talked about Kursk

    Refer at least to the Internet, kill in search of what space debris is dangerous for, Gagarin for how long circled the Earth. You can see the physics took a walk, google about the first cosmic speed, that's about the speed these pieces of garbage fly and the motion vectors are different for everyone. Have you imagined if objects fly towards each other?
  37. 0
    25 February 2023 18: 45
    Quote: Denis812
    why it began to bend in the first decade of the 21st century is completely incomprehensible to me.

    Because it was unable to commercialize itself. And grants from the state are clearly not enough.

    There are people who say "oh, cosmonautics flourished in the Union."
    Please remember that it flourished until the mid-70s. And when they learned to rivet hundreds of ballistic missiles in order to send the necessary cargo to Washington, they immediately began to allocate much less money for missiles.
    Glonass, replacing Liana and so on were already done under Putin.

    But again, if it is impossible to commercialize the project, then it is of no interest to anyone except the state. It is necessary to shove national pride into one place and "sell" space.
    Wouldn't the same North Korea or Iran pay a hundred million dollars for their chelas in orbit?
    We need to cooperate with China. They have already bypassed us in space, we must intertwine with them.

    Replacing Liana??? Liana has not yet been completed yet ... And in the form in which it was declared, there are serious doubts about its real performance. Yes, not a single space power has thought of such minimalism. Maybe you had the ICRC Legend, so it was simply destroyed, by the way, under Putin, but even in the worst times, when almost half of the satellites failed due to old age, they coped with their tasks, but decided that it was expensive! And along the way, the enterprises that produced satellites were destroyed. Now the conclusion of one of the two is presented as a victory! Two Carls! optoelectronic reconnaissance satellites of the Liana system. It’s better not to talk about GLONASS, turn on only GLONASS on the navigator, feel the buzz, this is not surprising - there are few satellites. If gps catches 5 in GLONASS 2.
    Astronautics cannot be 100 percent commercial - a rover and lunar rovers do not bring money except from sponsors, but like fundamental science, this is a reserve for future generations (tell me how to make money on the Higgs boson?), Little bricks add up to a lot of knowledge, but of course it’s easier and more fun to buy a large yacht the size of a cruiser here and now and enjoy it.
  38. 0
    25 February 2023 18: 51
    Quote: Cucumbers
    There is no oncoming traffic. All satellites are launched in the direction of the Earth's movement and the debris, respectively, moves in the same way. The speed of movement determines the height of the object's orbit. In other words, in the same orbit, bodies move at approximately the same speed.

    Yah? Very interesting - we represent Baikonur or Cape Canaveral, your task is to cover the entire earth with the orbits of flying satellites, say optical reconnaissance, and how will they all fly in the same direction? Yes, there will be no meeting at 0 degrees ... But no one says that objects should fly strictly towards, and there will be a lot of intersections of orbits.
  39. 0
    25 February 2023 19: 09
    Quote: Vyacheslav Ermolaev
    What did you want to say? The fact that they went into service in the 90s is right. You just don't seem to know what happened back then. Otherwise, astronautics would have died at the same time. And so she still lasted almost a decade and a half. But why it began to bend in the first decade of the 21st century is completely incomprehensible to me. This is despite the fact that the rest of the industry began to gradually recover.

    Because the system has spread to the space industry - let's say 10 lyam of greenery is allocated for the project, and when effective managers bite off it at all stages, at best half reaches the direct developers and production workers. When a designer sees that if he goes to draw furniture or gates, then he can earn more and with less stress, what incentives does he have to develop? You will not be fed up with the idea. I knew one ideological chemist - he worked in a scientific lab for an idea, earned money by setting up servers, after he was given a bonus of about 300 Baku spat from a spent western grant for 100k greenery and a 100k bonus for the successful completion of research for the research that he led and left. The question is, who got the rest of the prize?
  40. 0
    25 February 2023 19: 44
    Quote: faterdom
    Will Peresild fly?
    Although ... it might be better to send Urgant, or even Ernst.
    Yes, also Kudrin and Narusova with their daughter.

    In fact, it is not clear that everyone is so infuriated that Peresild flew off? flights to the ISS are massive, well, would they send someone else, so what? If not for budget money, let at least Panin fly or Sasha Grey. Cosmonauts from fraternal countries were regularly sent to the USSR for free, in fact, the presence of a person in orbit is food for science, one should not think that astronauts are conducting super-important research there for 24 hours. The problem of astronautics is not in this, but in the fact that there is simply an exploitation of the Soviet backlog and then by inertia, a simple launch of the Union, which in the 80s without pomp was now turned into booths, with priests, painted missiles under Khokhloma and the devil knows what else, and where is the development ?, they pompously announce the start of work on topics that were practically completed under the USSR, and the deadlines are shifted over and over again - 2015-2020, 2025 ... For that, they allow themselves to joke with the Americans - something doesn’t come across to the Soviet press or TV had a banter about the unsuccessful launch of the Americans, they were not fools - they understood that when they themselves had something wrong, loss of face and all that .... the current effective managers for some reason only effectively cling to the achievements of the USSR, they say there and there we were the first) Firstly, not you, and secondly, is it really unclear that it looks shameful, it is a victory only today, tomorrow you need to go forward, the successes of 30 years ago do not bother anyone.
  41. +1
    25 February 2023 21: 28
    It is clear that there are problems both in terms of personnel and in terms of technology and money. But we must move forward! I believe that space will become Russian again!
  42. +1
    28 February 2023 00: 22
    It's time to recall the existence of Roskosmos.


    Roskosmos has already reminded of itself in disgrace with the Soyuz MS-22 docked to the ISS.
  43. 0
    1 March 2023 08: 07
    I would like to look for a magnifying glass through which you can consider the reason for the holiday at Roskosmos. Swapping beds in a brothel is not a holiday.
    1. 0
      1 March 2023 13: 26
      Yes, there are practically no reasons for joy.
  44. 0
    1 March 2023 13: 25
    Let's keep our fingers crossed! God bless everything!
  45. -1
    April 22 2023 09: 26
    No, Roskosmos will not pull out this program without ragozin! Ahhh, by the way, what's up with the eastern spaceport? so many dachas have been built, but rockets don’t fly from it .... Damn, I forgot ... they also drowned on the way in diameter less than the diameter of the rockets, and besides, they are winding .. you can’t deliver them from Omsk.
  46. 0
    15 May 2023 19: 03
    "The Luna-25 mission will show the country's potential and the ability to adequately respond to Western sanctions. We haven't had space holidays for a long time - it's time to remind about the existence of Roskosmos."
    I wept with joy and pride. But Dimon Rogozin must be returned. It was a lot of fun with him (although not very cheap).
  47. 0
    14 January 2024 19: 07
    I wonder when they will illuminate the body of the Moon seismically to find out its homogeneity. And what is there in the center.

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“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev Lev; Ponomarev Ilya; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; Mikhail Kasyanov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"