Infantry tactics in the NWO

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Infantry tactics in the NWO


Features of the theater of operations


Donbass is not a flat area, it is hills and hollows, elevation changes, mine heaps on which surveillance devices can be installed, and urban development, including factory pipes and mine headframes, consisting of metal I-beams that can be riddled, but difficult to destroy .



And the saturation of the enemy with UAVs with high-resolution cameras gives him the opportunity to monitor the surrounding territory in different modes around the clock. And I don't exaggerate. Often in the air is not something that is constantly Drones enemy, but also, as a rule, not one, and of different classes. Only the work of our electronic warfare can completely clear the sky, but for a short period of time, since the enemy also hunts for it in priority order.

So, what will the involvement of a large unit turn into?

Its transfer will be identified on the march to the front sector - when the columns move along the roads. The enemy will be ready to inflict fire damage. Then the first tank battalion reaches the line of attack, and there, at a distance of 30 to 40 kilometers, it can be reached not only by high-precision "Axes" and all sorts of "Caesars" with "Paladins", but also by Soviet installations "Grad", and from a distance of ten kilometers from the hills can cover the "Rapiers".

In general, with a high probability the carbon story. Any plans for a deep detour of the territory, for strategic coverage - always, except for the arrows on the map, rest on a specific area on which a specific platoon operates. Often, in criticizing the use of units in the NMD, it sounds: our generals have forgotten how to attack in divisions, decisions are needed to break through large formations.

It should be understood and remembered that it is not enough that arrows were drawn at the headquarters and a decision was made to move tank division. On the ground, everything will come down to the consistent destruction of specific groups of advancing tanks by the enemy. That is, the situation of the Great Patriotic War with operations in the Vyazemsky direction "Mars" will be reproduced.

It would seem a logical decision - to overcome the fortified nodes bypassing, in open areas, with advice on demining fields by firing artillery and using anti-mine tank trawls, but ... The fact is that the entire Donbass is a continuous agglomeration. Multi-storey urban development develops into urban settlements, garden plots, towns, villages and industrial facilities such as factories, mines and railway stations are located around them.

And all this, taking into account the hills and lowlands, and rivers with swampy floodplains. It turns out that, bypassing one object, the advancing group approaches another and, being in an open area, inevitably comes under fire from two sides - since it comes between two defense nodes. The operation for deep coverage and dissection is, of course, beautiful, but it requires the accumulation of a huge amount of reserves and then their prompt introduction into the breakthrough zone.

There is another option as well.

The most combat-ready subunits open the enemy defenses like a can opener, break it open by frontal breakthroughs and finish off the pockets with less combat-ready units. Rather, it is an offensive in the style of an asphalt skating rink, but it does not leave the encircled enemy army entrenched in the fortification and does not give a chance either to unblock it or to withdraw through the humanitarian corridor.

Speaking conditionally, the type of one operation is “Stalingrad”, the type of the other is “Vistula-Oder”. The general public and military experts often like the former. With deep walks and coverages and explicit grouping surroundings. However, let's not forget that this is possible under appropriate conditions. The presence of steppe open areas without large urban agglomerations, for example, in the Volga steppes, convenient for the movement of mechanized groups. Difficult rotation and replenishment of enemy units due to the range of supply lines and natural conditions. Weak flanks of the group, consisting of unstable parts - Romanians, Italians, Spaniards, Hungarians.

At the moment, the RF Armed Forces are fighting in the Donbass in conditions of almost continuous building. The enemy defends stubbornly and stubbornly, the infantry units are saturated with hand-held anti-tank weapons, and replenishment of manpower is carried out regularly. It was with similar conditions that the Soviet troops encountered during the battles in 1944-1945 directly in Germany and Hungary, and there the nature of offensive operations changed towards the second type. The solution is to take one of the defense nodes.

In this case, a gap breaks in the enemy's defensive line, which then allows you to operate in different operational directions, bypassing the rest of the line of fortifications. For the first time, such a phenomenon was observed after the capture of Popasna - the so-called "flower of Popasna", at the moment we are seeing the same effect after the liberation of Soledar.


Defense system


Once again, let us fix how the enemy's defense is for the most part arranged.

The "gray zone", as a rule, consisting either of a burnt forest belt, pitted with abandoned trenches and trenches, and craters from shells, with a lot of stumps sticking out of the ground and fragments of burnt trees broken by explosions, or destroyed residential buildings, piles of bricks, the remains of lined equipment and civil vehicles, concrete poles, bits of asphalt, metal transmission towers, pits and cellars.

In general, an extremely impassable terrain, as a rule, mined with all kinds of mines that mankind has only come up with: from anti-tank to manually installed PFMok, banal tripwires, and also sprinkled with petals from containers that sometimes lie for months, and sometimes spontaneously explode one at a time. Add to this also unexploded mines from mortars, including 120 caliber, which can also explode if the ground shakes under them. And all sorts of rubbish, such as German mines with an electromagnetic fuse that explode when approaching them with metal (for example, there is enough machine gun) or a walkie-talkie turned on.

The fire of snipers and machine gunners, whose firing points are carefully camouflaged and fire selectively, does not allow clearing all this. The suppression of these individual firing points is prevented by spotters of artillery and mortar fire, who immediately cover the group that is trying to swoop into this territory.

We will immediately note the “simple solutions”.

It is impossible to overcome this zone by throwing a group of tanks or tanks and armored vehicles with troops on the armor for a number of reasons. The depth of enemy reconnaissance control is quite large: from LBS in places in open areas it can reach thirty kilometers.

It should be borne in mind that enemy infantry units are located in safe shelters, basement and first floors of apartment buildings, in dugouts and dugouts dug on the reverse slopes of heights, often built using construction equipment, with elements not only of wood and earth, but also reinforced concrete structures. It is not possible to hit it with an intense but short-term artillery strike - before the enemy's counter-battery fight begins.

Multi-storey buildings have been turned into multi-stage defensive complexes. Dense urban development does not allow effective destruction of houses beyond the outer buildings from the offensive side. The outer ones can be riddled with tank shells, and the next ones are relatively intact.

Inside, everything is prepared for defense: passages between entrances on different floors are punched, holes in the walls are blocked by cabinets, groups of defenders can go to the rear of the attackers and receive reinforcements through the basements from neighboring buildings.

In this regard, it is necessary to analyze the features of assault operations in the NWO.

Assault actions


Let's talk about such a phenomenon as the assault actions of infantry units in the conditions of the NMD in Ukraine.

To begin with, it should immediately be noted that there is often a misconception about how “assaults” take place at the present time. Traditionally, some draw an analogy with the "stormtroopers" or "stormtroopers" of the Kaiser's army in the First World War. That is, groups of soldiers equipped with additional armor protection and special weapons, the purpose of which was to break into the enemy's trench and destroy the infantry located there in hand-to-hand combat or combat at extremely short distances.

In view of the fact that in the NMD the main means of defending a position are not infantry small fire and barbed wire, but coordinated fire from artillery, mortars, snipers, machine guns and minefields, it makes no sense to create a group to destroy enemy infantry in hand-to-hand combat.

Here, rather, one can recall the anecdote about using hand-to-hand combat skills, a fighter must lose his regular rifle weapon, cold, bladed, trench tool and not be able to pick up a single improvised item, and then, on the contrary, also find the same enemy fighter, ready to engage in hand-to-hand combat with him.

Also, military history knows the experience of using assault infantry groups by the Soviet army during the capture of fortress cities during the Great Patriotic War, for example, the well-known Koenigsberg, the more forgotten Poznan and Kustrin, and so on. Moreover, if the function of the so-called festungs performed the same as that of Soledar with Artemovsk during the NMD - they had to slow down the offensive impulse of the Soviet army, block the nodes of roads and railways, controlling the transport communications historically laid through them due to the terrain, station bridges, etc., and at the same time inflict damage on the attackers, and also give time for the preparation in the rear of combat-ready units, instead of those defeated at the front, from the forces of the mobilization reserve.

However, the key difference between the assault groups of the Soviet army of that period is the use of 45-mm and 76-mm guns and tanks as part of the assault group for direct fire. Which was possible only due to the weak reconnaissance capabilities of the defending garrisons, due to the almost complete absence of technical means and air reconnaissance, due to the air supremacy of the Soviet aviation during that period (1944–1945) of the war.

In addition, although Faustparons had already been created, the coefficient of probability of their destruction of Soviet tanks was insignificant. And the action of the assault groups on the ground was supported, in addition, by heavy artillery fire and strikes by bomber and attack aircraft. The difference between the SVO is that modern MANPADS and air defense systems have such a range and effectiveness that they pose a threat to aviation, even at low density. And anti-tank weapons for infantry (the notorious ATGM roof-breakers) ensure the destruction of even heavy armored vehicles with a high destruction rate.

At the same time, the counter-battery struggle of the enemy does not allow the concentration of significant forces of any kind of troops. Simply put, an attempt to concentrate even infantry, even artillery, even armored groups will be detected by aerial reconnaissance on UAVs, reconnaissance equipment (high-resolution video cameras, thermal imagers), satellite reconnaissance, or, in the end, by the enemy’s intelligence network.

For the same reason, the tactics used by units of the RF Armed Forces and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation in the second Chechen campaign could not be transferred to the NVO. For example, when a structure occupied by militants was discovered, the infantry carried out a sweep in active cooperation with armored vehicles operating on direct fire. Even in an apartment building, when an apartment was found occupied by the enemy, the tank could work outside to suppress resistance. But in the conditions of the NWO, the equipment itself becomes an object of hunting from the side of the enemy, who has the means to defeat it.

How do assault actions take place and what is an “assault” in the NWO?


An infantry group of five to ten people advances. They are covered by carefully camouflaged guns at the firing position. They cover not with fire, but while waiting. If a rifleman is working on a group, then the artillery strikes at the identified firing point and immediately changes position. Sometimes the movement of the reconnaissance group in especially dangerous areas is accompanied by an observer drone from above - for additional speed in identifying enemy firing points and aiming artillery. So it's all slow and careful.

Even one five-story building - that way, as a rule, several firing points. If the enemy is hiding there, then he can equip firing positions both on top and in the middle of the building, and in the basement basements. Naturally, all this does not stick out of the window, but is hidden with a recess, the windows are hung with burlap or scraps of fabric and cellophane, or littered with barricades of furniture. It is impossible to identify a firing point by simple observation even when observing through a greenhouse or a night light.

But the group still watches as much as they can. Suddenly, someone inside will kindle a fire or, violating discipline, will light a cigarette. But the enemy also wants to live. As a rule, it is not so easily detected.

Then the group slowly slowly moves forward, using any places that are not visible from the building. Burnt cars, sheds, garages, terrain folds, drainpipes, ditches, fallen trees, piles of bricks, in general, everything that is not taken into account on the map and creates protection from viewing by the enemy's NP.

Sometimes the route depends on a hawthorn bush or a concrete pillar lying on the ground.

At some point, the enemy will reveal the advance of the group and try to cover it with mortar fire. Sometimes enemy art or a tank is connected. Then you have to retreat, pull out the wounded, replenish the group and look for another route. There, after all, the most dangerous places can be mined. And not only petals but also pfmkami and stretch marks.

In addition, the enemy uses the tactics of the fire bag. He does not open fire immediately, but first launches the group deeper into the target area, and then he can also set up a mortar cut-off - throw mines on the escape route - such a short-term fire shaft is the other way around. Calmly shooting at this moment the reconnaissance group.

But at some point, the group moves so close to the five-story building that it falls into the projectile shadow - after all, we are going from our side, and the means of fire support, as a rule, from the side of the enemy with variations. Then the enemy shows firing points.

As a rule, fire from machine guns or snipers. Here they are, identified, and it is necessary to give coordinates to the means of their fire support. And then move on, hoping that they were suppressed, or the enemy fled, or shell-shocked, or simply hid and lay down, and had not yet crawled out into the sector of observation and fire. And so, until you pass into the dead zone of the five-story building. And this is also a description of a spherical horse in a vacuum - one five-story building and an attack on it.

And as a rule, in the city, firing points are set up for mutual cover with dagger flanking fire. That is, approaches to one five-story building are covered by firing points from another, and this one controls that one, and so on. Sometimes a dash to the dead zone along a carefully explored passage is made on the armor in order to parachute directly into the entrances. But this passage still needs to be found and cleared first.

And then - now you are in a dead zone: the second part of the Marlezon ballet begins. Cleanup inside. And there - you never know what is prepared. The enemy could break through the walls between the entrances, he could make holes in the walls in the apartments and cover them with cabinets, he could do them in the ceilings of irregular passages-hatchways between the floors and the basement.

Every apartment needs to be checked. Everything in the apartment. Any closet, any toilet. Because everywhere there may be a passage to the next entrance, from where the enemy can go to the rear of the attacking group and cut it off. And there are all kinds of stretch marks that explode to open the doors of apartments, interior rooms and even closets. Monk in a closed room is a guaranteed death, even in armor, even without armor.

At the same time, from neighboring buildings, where the enemy is still, they can fire at the group during the sweep. And the enemy inside also fights to the last and constantly tries to cut off. And in the end - this is one building.

Several of these houses themselves turn into a complex fortress. And you can't destroy them with a quick blow. Because a panel five-story building is worth it, even if all the walls are in a sieve. And if the building is of a quarter type, then the extreme five-story buildings protect the internal building. And the first one can be with half-crumbling entrances, and there inside the quarter - there are intact ones. In such cases, only a dash with a landing force is used, but with single sides or in small groups.

The author twice had to participate in attempts at such a landing, and one successful case is known for certain.


I will describe how it happened.

It was about a combat mission in the form of occupying the extreme "language" of the forest belt, going around the enemy positions near the settlement. Just so as not to storm the block with five-story buildings head-on. Their first line was constantly subjected to intense shelling, but the return fire did not stop. It was decided to throw infantry on the armor into the forest belt running along the settlement in order to create a threat of its encirclement and cut off, and to make it difficult for the enemy to rotate and transfer ammunition and reinforcements.

The problem was that the section to the forest belt had to be overcome through open areas in direct line of sight of the extreme five-story building and the school where the enemy sat down. It was a pleasant decision: the last (!) tank of the brigade rolls out for direct fire and shoots ammo at the school and the outermost five-story building, forcing the enemy to hide, scatter from firing positions, or at least stop shelling for a while.

At this time, six infantry fighting vehicles (three kopecks and three kopeck pieces) with troops inside and on the armor throw the maximum amount of infantry transported into the forest belt and jump back under the cover of tank fire. Infantry in the forest belt, destroying an unspecified number of an unknown enemy, consolidates and moves forward, creating a stronghold of defense, or recapturing it from the enemy. Supply and evacuation, if necessary, are carried out in the same way.

Despite some adventurism and uncertainty of tasks for the infantry unit, such a plan was accepted by his command. Since the alternative was a frontal attack on these same five-story buildings, and the unit was from the BARS structure, the general decision at the mini-military council of the unit headquarters was that it was still more realistic to try to occupy the forest and cut off the enemy, forcing him to retreat, than to land from armor directly into the entrances, which was another alternative to the plan.

By the beginning of the implementation of the plan, it was possible to coordinate and covertly place infantry fighting vehicles at the starting line and distribute infantry next to them. Further, the enemy nevertheless discovered something and began shelling the area of ​​​​concentration and accumulation. We had to act quickly. The artillery of the brigade began a counter-battery fight, mortars worked on the last five-story building and a school, a tank and an infantry fighting vehicle advanced. Drones from the air they conducted reconnaissance to the headquarters of the operation and from there they gave explanations on the situation to the landing.

The tank fired two shots and was hit by an unidentified enemy anti-tank weapon. The crew, although shell-shocked, survived and returned to their location on foot. The landing party partially left the sides, and partially returned to them when the deployed infantry fighting vehicles jumped out from under fire and returned to safe locations. Most of the landing successfully returned back. The number of three hundredths was minimal, no one died at all.

The fighting took all day, and the next day it was decided to adjust the plan to take into account the absence of a tank in the brigade now.

The new plan looked like this.

Three infantry fighting vehicles jump out at the line of opening fire without landing and open fire on the five-story building and the school from automatic guns. While the enemy scatters in horror or ceases fire, three other BMP-kopecks are dropping troops according to the original plan.

The next day, everything repeated in the same sequence. Up to the fact that one of the three infantry fighting vehicles was hit by an unidentified enemy anti-tank weapon 15 meters from our wrecked tank standing there, which so far could not be pulled out, and the enemy methodically shot it from all types of artillery.

After that, it was decided to abandon plans to “slip through” to such a tempting forest belt, which I consider a high degree of sanity of the command and respect for the lives of the soldiers.

At the end of the story, the third case of landing “at the entrance” known to the author occurred on the same sector of the front by the forces of the reconnaissance battalion of one tank brigade. As a result, with the help of assault actions, the five-story buildings remaining at that time in the amount of two pieces were taken, but the reconnaissance battalion opened an additional set for the transfer of those wishing from other units and structures - BARS, Akhmat, Reduta by internal transfer.

Thus, assault operations in the NWO are a slow process. The process is not a zerg-rush to the cries of "cheers" by company groups, but a smart, cautious and consistent advancement with simultaneous demining, opening enemy firing points and their destruction, and endless retreat in case of enemy strikes with artillery or mortars.


Specifics of LBS in NWO


For the first time in 70 years, the Russian Army is conducting high-intensity combat operations with an enemy equipped with such modern technical means of destruction, reconnaissance, and surveillance. Hence, several non-standard tactical decisions have to be applied.

This is especially evident when fresh units of the personnel army of the RF Armed Forces arrive at the LBS. The units of the LDNR, volunteers, the Akhmat regiment and the Cheka officers stationed there pass on their combat traditions and experience to them, which often breaks the statutory stereotypes.

Let's analyze some of them:

Night is a suitable way for covert movement. To schedule an attack at four or five in the morning is to take the enemy by surprise.

Fundamentally wrong. The enemy is sufficiently equipped with thermal imagers and night vision devices, including high-quality Israeli and American ones. Thermal imaging cameras on UAVs are also widely used. In addition to getting up early and getting tired of your own soldiers, this is also a chance to get under friendly fire. You won’t achieve the effect of surprise at night, but you will light up the thermal signature just right.

In addition, this is a great chance to create chaos and confusion in your own unit, not to mention the traumatic nature of moving along the forest belt, for example, and most importantly, at night you yourself do not see mines: the same “Petals” turn from simply unpleasant circumstances into a deadly surprise .

Thus, the best time to act is at noon on a hot summer day, especially if the sun is facing the enemy.

This also includes attempts to move at a fast pace, which leads to an increase in the thermal signature of the unit and tremor of the hands, which adversely affects the accuracy of shooting.

There is a front line, behind which you can send scouts to sabotage, monitor the rear and highlight targets for aviation and artillery.

As such, there is no front line. There is a fortification in depth, designed for defense and equipped, among other things, with group weapons. Simply put, and three kilometers from the LBS, they have trenches not only with infantry, but also with ATGMs and machine guns. In addition, it should be recognized that the fighting is taking place in relatively populated areas with non-evacuated populations. These are not the mountains of the Caucasus and not the deserts of Syria.

The reconnaissance group, even if it somehow slips directly through the LBS, will be discovered by the local population, the grandmother going to the store, the boys on bicycles, and what? Leave behind the corpses of witnesses? Still, from our side, such scumbags do not fight. This means that the local population voluntarily and involuntarily blabs about what they saw "Russian soldiers" - the peculiarities of the accent, pronunciation, mentality, ignorance of the local specifics of life do not allow mimicking local forces, even with the similarity of equipment and weapons.

The number of armored vehicles in general and especially is the key to success. If you send more tanks to attack, then there is a higher chance of breaking through the enemy defenses.

An unprepared attack will only lead to a directly proportional increase in losses, according to the number of units involved. You send a battalion into a stupid attack - they will put a battalion. Though tanks, even infantry. Art of the enemy is the main damaging combat factor, and the number of attackers does not play a role.

Having captured a position, you can keep it with the same unit without rotating.

As a rule, one type of weaponry and equipment of the unit is required for capture, and completely different ones for retention. They go on the offensive with RPKs, machine guns, exotic shotguns against drones and clearing trenches, and it’s better to hold back with heavy machine guns and ATGMs. Demanding universality “according to the charter” or standard weapons “according to the state of a motorized rifle unit” is stupid and pointless.

Moreover, when making a decision to capture a position, one must immediately foresee the possibility of transferring reinforcements, taking out the wounded, bringing ammunition, etc.

Despite the war, the regular activities of units and the separation of functions should be carried out whenever possible.

It should immediately be put into the brain that no "constructions" are possible in war. Deployment of personnel "by units" is the most dangerous nonsense, and should be arranged according to the range of weapons.

No cooking "at zero" is possible, and it will have to be delivered from deep in the rear, either by TVNami, if the unit managed to organize a field kitchen, or by dry food. The same, and even more, applies to water. At the same time, it should be remembered that these "camels", dragging water to the front, can be noticed by the enemy - and reveal the deployment of the front edge by their movements.

Some suggestions for improving the effectiveness of command and control of infantry units


War is war. They sometimes die on it. But no commander has the right to send his subordinates to certain death.

This goes against the well-known narrative that justifies the notorious Order No. 227 “Not one step back.” However, without delving now into the historical analysis of the circumstances that led to such a situation at the front, when it was necessary to issue such an order, I consider the creation of such prerequisites a mistake and a crime. For some reason, in 1945 there was no need for such an order. So it's still in the situation at the front.

So, I think that the life of every soldier in the NMD has the same value as the general, and the Supreme Commander himself, if you like.

There can be tough decisions in combat. So, if the group was ambushed, and the commander decides to leave the barrier, and the main part to retreat, let him remain in the barrier himself. If it is necessary to go on the offensive against unsuppressed defenses through unexplored minefields, let the general who gives such an order take out a pistol, change his shoes for trench boots and himself go ahead in the firing line, setting an example. And so on.

But, since it is foolish to hope for such actions, I propose to introduce a criterion for the effectiveness of the unit commander.

At the moment, such a criterion is the fulfillment of the combat mission of capturing the territory. Captured - well done. Could not advance - report why and what losses you suffered. I didn’t suffer losses, which means I stormed badly, let’s do it again.

And so, the criterion should be, except for the performance of a combat mission - loss of personnel.

Offhand, I propose the following gradation:

• Fulfilled a combat mission, but lost 50% of the personnel and more - on trial, a military tribunal and demoted to a penal battalion.

• Fulfilled a combat mission with losses from 40 to 50% - removal from office, resignation and demotion.

• Fulfilled a combat mission with losses from 20 to 40% - dismissal with transfer to rear services or advanced training.

• Fulfilled a combat mission with losses from 10 to 20% - an internal investigation into the validity of losses.

• I consider losses of less than 10% percent acceptable, depending on the complexity and scope of the task.

• Completed a combat mission with less than 10% casualties - a candidate for promotion - let him command a large unit and pass on his experience.

• Other losses of personnel: not in the course of a combat mission, but at a point of temporary or permanent deployment or on the march - automatic dismissal and trial.

I think that with the introduction of such criteria in the army structure, they will treat personnel as effectively and carefully as in the BARS and PMC systems.

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  1. +3
    22 February 2023 04: 43
    in terms of strategic coverage - always, except for the arrows on the map, they rest on a specific area on which a specific platoon operates. Often, in criticizing the use of units in the NMD, it sounds: our generals have forgotten how to attack in divisions, we need solutions to break through with large formations.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the direct control of a platoon for many bipeds in stripes is an impossible task ...
    1. +24
      22 February 2023 05: 59
      The second article today is from really NWO participants, which naturally pleases. Many thanks to the author for a wonderful article, we wish you health! We look forward to continuing.
      1. +12
        22 February 2023 06: 14
        The author laid out correctly and on the shelves. Moreover, this is all from a Real Participant. hi Ahead is a long, hard military labor. The cap-throwing machine has broken down.
        1. -6
          22 February 2023 08: 55
          At the moment, such a criterion is the fulfillment of the combat mission of capturing the territory. Captured - well done. Could not advance - report why and what losses you suffered. I didn’t suffer losses, which means I stormed badly, let’s do it again.

          Yes, everyone cares, we have a mobilization potential of 25 people. Generals think in big battalions.
          It's time to get used to it.
        2. +5
          22 February 2023 09: 27
          The author clarified everything so much that the idea arises that someone in the rear can decide to "liquidate" the enemy's defenses with hundreds of kilotons "on camouflage", when first a shock wave arises from the bottom up, and then the soil sinks into the cavern and everything becomes bad on the surface from a combination of compression and rarefaction waves from bottom to top.
          I hope that I am wrong, although after 2020 everything is possible.
        3. +5
          22 February 2023 09: 35
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          The hat throwing machine is broken


          It's VERY far from the final break. From the word - TOTALLY!
      2. +4
        23 February 2023 12: 23
        The article is detailed and sensible.
        But, it is not entirely clear what to do, what to do in order to succeed?
        The author writes: intelligence means are now strong. That's for sure. And means of destruction. And it is. And there are many settlements, etc.
        It is impossible, they say, to attack with large forces, the enemy will destroy.
        But it has always been like this!
        When attacking an UNSUPPRESSED enemy during the years of the Second World War, in the absence of then ATGMs and drones, we lost not a dozen, but a hundred or more tanks at a time on a small sector of the front.
        And tov. Khrushchev recalls how the commander of the mechanized corps came to the front headquarters "with a whip", having lost the lion's share of the vehicles on the march from German air strikes.
        So, in order to defeat an army that is at least not inferior to us numerically, well-armed by the West with many modern weapons, there is no other way than to destroy its firepower and personnel. This cannot be achieved by ousting the enemy and "artillery duels". We need breakthroughs, encirclement, the depth of offensive operations for tens of kilometers.
        For this you need everything as always. Excellence in every way. Air supremacy (it was the German air strikes that made it possible to break through the heavily fortified defenses on the Kursk Bulge), the isolation of the combat area, the defeat of at least the near rear, the qualitative and quantitative superiority of electronic warfare, but also, of course, sufficient numbers and good training of troops. Then there may be big losses in the breakthrough area (Zeelow heights), but for the enemy, "Stalingrad" will eventually come
        Do we have all the ingredients for such a development of events now? ....
        I hesitate to report...
        At least trains go along the "fly" to the theater and bring reinforcements and equipment. Or are they in big trouble?
        No new tactics and heroism of assault groups will give victory, if you don’t cut the roots of the enemy grouping, if you don’t outdo the enemy in everything, well, or almost everything.
        1. TIR
          +1
          23 February 2023 18: 20
          In fact, you still need to break through the defense. At the same time, expand the front of the breakthrough with strikes from the flanks and a strike deep into the defense, expanding the breakthrough to 40 km. Then it is already possible to act with large forces. But for this you need to completely close the sky from the UAV and you need a constant fire shaft in front of the advancing units
        2. +1
          25 February 2023 00: 00
          Tactics and Technologies are the key to success in this War. You need to mobilize not into the army, as everyone calls, but you need to mobilize all the intellectual potential, especially since it exists! There are already unmanned BMP3s, you can make a drone on the platform T72, T62, etc. And already a breakthrough with the identification of firing positions is made not by a group of desperate foot soldiers, but by a robot. KAZ will return to the tank its main purpose - a breakthrough weapon. Now it is used as self-propelled guns. Effective AFARs, paired with a long-range kamikaze drone, can quickly mow down enemy artillery, its fire will essentially become disposable - the radar determines the approximate location, or rather it’s not necessary, a swarm flies there, 4-5 drones (a pair of reconnaissance relays + drums), search for through the operator, ideally independently with the help of a neural network and destroys. FPV drones, they are racing drones, flying into all these holes in houses, it can be used for reconnaissance purposes, it can be like a kamikaze ... The need for inventions is cunning ... If the brains are not connected, the CBO will be lost, you can’t win with one tactic, it’s just too early or later all the mothers, as the author is knocked out, and then cook on the new green ...
      3. 0
        24 February 2023 20: 27
        In fact, according to many signs, either the author himself was not there and writes from other people's words, or he cannot adequately express his thought. Despite a lot of sound thoughts, in which I fully understand the nature of the growth of the lower extremities :-), their description is made in places very primitively. Obviously designed for an audience that has never personally encountered the subject of discussion.
        Although perhaps this is intentional. I fully admit, although I do not understand the reasons, if this is so ..
    2. AAK
      +9
      22 February 2023 19: 51
      And taking into account the criteria for "commander's suitability" given in the final part of the article, there will be practically no generals who have not been imprisoned after a week of intense hostilities. And yet, it is not entirely clear why the command does not strive to achieve success by advancing not in the Donbass, but in a much less urbanized area ... Cut off these areas from the front, the Banders themselves will surrender in a couple of weeks, well, or they will start to eat each other ... And the most important thing is why the dill air defense is not destroyed, there is no need to spend missiles on goofy transformers, it is necessary to destroy any pockets of air defense in order to enable our aviation to work ... and then do not regret bombs or napalm ... good bandera - the 200th bandera and nothing else ...
      1. TIR
        0
        24 February 2023 16: 34
        Because we do not have reconnaissance means to detect air defense. And she turns on her radar only on command. And then quickly changes position. The Aerospace Forces also do not have equipment and special air defense hunters
      2. +1
        25 February 2023 00: 13
        Let's not fight corruption, because we will have to put everyone in jail! Such logic? Criteria for success are needed, and the loss of personnel is largely decisive. Why? Because formally, and in fact, Russia is not fighting on its own territory. And the people have a sensitive attitude to losses. We add here the incomprehensible goals of the NWO and it is quite possible to get mass indignation: what did we forget there ?! So the author is right. Another question is that each case should be investigated, and the main question is whether losses are justified or not, through the direct fault of the commander, or due to factors beyond his control (he was surrounded, let down by "neighbors", numerical and qualitative superiority of the enemy). Otherwise, such butchers as Muradov and Akhmedov will become colonel-generals. Muradov threw marines into the gap along the "arrow" near Ugledar. I accidentally stumbled upon a video of that massacre recently, I didn’t want to watch it ... It’s just terrible, the BMP rolls around in a panic in its own way, a burning tanker runs across the field, a lot of dead ... For me, and for the author, this is a pure tribunal!
        1. TIR
          -1
          25 February 2023 19: 13
          If you demand a total fight against corruption, then you fall under the article of change of power. Corruption is so ingrained in the manager of the country that it is easier to change the government than to eradicate it. Therefore, there is no fight against this evil. If I exaggerate, you can see for yourself that if we didn’t have total corruption, then this power would not exist
  2. +11
    22 February 2023 05: 20
    Many thanks to the author for this article ... I haven’t read articles on mother infantry for a long time ... I mentally put myself in the place of the events described ... very informative ... especially about panel five-story buildings.
    I kept wondering why they were not destroyed by air and artillery strikes and stubbornly sent infantry there.
    It would be nice to get acquainted with the experience of the Wagnerites in Soledar.
    Write as much as possible about these battles... they are very interesting from the point of view of military science.
    1. +3
      22 February 2023 06: 16
      Yes, it looks like actions during the assault on Koenigsberg. With the difference that there is no superiority over the enemy on the ground
      1. +8
        22 February 2023 10: 32
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        Yes, it looks like actions during the assault on Koenigsberg. With the difference that there is no superiority over the enemy on the ground

        It was easier in König - artillery could work quietly there. Neither you have problems with ammunition, nor you have enemy air reconnaissance. You can even issue B-4 divisions for direct fire, or methodically fire 120 8" shells in a day from the same position.
        Plus, the enemy quickly ran out of long-range anti-tank weapons, so that the tanks and self-propelled guns of the NPP could work like in a shooting range - outside the effective fire of portable anti-tank weapons.
        1. 0
          26 February 2023 02: 51
          Why air reconnaissance, to reconnoiter a 203 mm howitzer hitting direct fire? laughing
          1. +1
            28 February 2023 10: 55
            Quote: stankow
            Why air reconnaissance, to reconnoiter a 203 mm howitzer hitting direct fire? laughing

            And I'm not talking about the B-4, but about larger calibers - 280 mm and stationary 305 mm, which worked from closed firing positions. For them, aerial reconnaissance of the enemy is like death.
    2. +5
      22 February 2023 10: 13
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Write as much as possible about these battles ... they are very interesting from the point of view of military science


      How cool - let's declassify everything!

      This information should not be in the public domain - the enemy can read Russian and they should not be considered fools!

      Experience needs to be transferred, but not to Couch experts sitting at computers, tablets and smartphones, but directly to the Warring!
      1. +1
        23 February 2023 07: 48
        How cool - let's declassify everything!

        This information should not be in the public domain - the enemy can read Russian and they should not be considered fools!

        + Will be translated into English. and will be used in preparation.
      2. +2
        23 February 2023 14: 38
        This tactic, the enemy is considering in the sight! So there is no secret, but for those who somehow get to the front, as a volunteer or mobilized, the experience of the fired soldiers is very useful!

        Many thanks to the author! soldier
      3. TIR
        -2
        23 February 2023 18: 38
        Today we are at the tablet, and tomorrow we will be in these trenches. If not such articles, then imagine with what illusion you will go to the front if you listen only to our experts from state TV. That's real, instead of paying money to these verbiage, it would be better to spend them on business. Aristovich and he speaks more truthfully than all our regular guests of any talk show
    3. +3
      23 February 2023 19: 56
      "I kept wondering why they weren't destroyed by air and artillery strikes and stubbornly sent infantry there"
      and why? I didn't understand why. cheaper? one 152mm projectile will demolish half of the five-story panel building, if you hit it, of course, and even the fab500 in general will ruin the whole thing. what is wrong with high-rise buildings in ukraine?
  3. +2
    22 February 2023 05: 23
    War is war. They sometimes die on it. But no commander has the right to send his subordinates to certain death.


    The fact of the matter is that for some it is a war and for some not, many things have not yet been resolved, although a year has passed since the beginning of the NWO, the supply routes of NATO equipment have not been cut, the energy of the 404th, decision-making centers have not yet been destroyed, all sorts of bidens are driving around Kuev like at home, business transit has been going on as it is, somewhere they threatened to shoot down satellites and it remained at the level of blah, blah, blah, well, the lack of bombardment of the FABmi enemy by aviation greatly complicates the work of the infantry.
  4. +7
    22 February 2023 05: 34
    War is war. They sometimes die on it.
    Not sometimes, but both military and civilians die.
  5. +10
    22 February 2023 06: 22
    The main problem is how to remove the peacekeeper. And there is no way to remove it. Without him, everything is decided by the same Solntsepekom, and this is another matter. Again, building - these are cities and urban settlements, mining ... La line Marik-Donetsk - what kind of building is there in Zh.? Well, there are three villages, Mitkovo-Kochkari, Kachkarskoye and Svobodnoye, a kilometer between them. Yes, there are no basements even in the houses, and there weren’t even two-story houses there, what kind of defense is there? At MTS? The wall of Kalash breaks through. No one will cling to them - and no one has ever clung to them. But Volnovakha is another matter, but again, if there were no civilians ....
    And then it turns out a police sweep, and with it, when cops in armor take one scumbag with a knife - there are either wounded, or even corpses
    1. 0
      23 February 2023 20: 03
      "But Volnovakha is another matter, but again, if there were no civilians ...." "
      and there is no way around it? through the same bumps? or only in the forehead, on the wave, and take care of the peace, which is probably not there
      1. 0
        25 February 2023 00: 17
        Mirnyak is, moreover, Russian-speaking. Vushniks themselves have repeatedly complained that many locals remain disloyal to Kyiv. And of course, they don’t let everyone out themselves, as it was in Marika.
  6. -1
    22 February 2023 07: 10
    The general public and military experts often like the former. With deep walks and coverages and explicit grouping surroundings. However, let's not forget that this is possible under appropriate conditions.
    How many times they explained this to them, but still there are articles and comments from people who live in the middle of the last century.
    1. +21
      22 February 2023 08: 14
      Everything that the author described is just called a "military crime." Its top military leadership commits breaking people in the Donbass. Whereas it was necessary to fight in other territories, where girths and encirclements are possible. This is the art of war. This is just an axiom, you need to hit on weak areas, now they are fighting where it is convenient for the enemy. The DPR will be released at such a pace for 10 years.
      Since the middle of the 20th century, victory has been achieved in the air. This is the second axiom. After the air offensive, the destruction of the enemy's air defense and air force, the terror of the ground forces begins, the destruction of warehouses, reserves, headquarters. LBS isolation is required. None of this happens.

      That's when they hit weak areas, having achieved air supremacy, then the war of the 21st century takes place "with deep detours and coverage and a clear encirclement of the group."
      When this is not the case, then there is a war of the early 20th century, with the grinding of infantry.
      1. +5
        22 February 2023 10: 03
        The loss of the advantage of the first strike and the bloody assault on Mariupol, instead of developing success for encircling the entire Donetsk grouping of the enemy, led to marking time and such assaults. Here I agree with Strelkov that it was not necessary to stay so long in Mariupol, thereby giving the enemy precious time to
        mobilization and regrouping. Now we have a dead end of WWI, when the Germans planned to finish everything by the autumn leaf fall, and there was a bloody massacre for 4 years.
      2. -3
        22 February 2023 10: 03
        Quote from cold wind
        Whereas it was necessary to fight in other territories, where girths and encirclements are possible.
        Yes Yes Yes. At the beginning of the war, they tried to advance quickly and it all ended with the defeat of the columns in ambushes.
        Quote: Dart2027
        comments from people who live in the middle of the last century
        1. +1
          22 February 2023 19: 22
          The plans assumed that the Ukrainians would not resist. And this is how it turned out...
          1. +3
            22 February 2023 20: 06
            I do not remember that the plans for the beginning of the NWO were published in the press.
        2. 0
          22 February 2023 21: 58
          What is "Yes-yes-yes" then!? The defeat of columns in ambushes and their support columns is the fault of those who planned the operation in this way and did not bother with elementary actions during offensive operations! The result of the offensive at the beginning of the war is not the inferiority of the strategy of a major offensive as such, but simply a poor elaboration of the plan of the NWO itself. If she "rolled", you would be one of the first to rush to prove the genius of this operation. According to your logic, how should it go? Notifying the Armed Forces of Ukraine that we are advancing here and there, at such and such a time and after they organize defense there, only then attack to ram them in the forehead (just like you like), so what? Sculpt excuses for the current failures to the right and left, and only wishful thinking.
          So stop heresy grind.
          1. +1
            22 February 2023 22: 19
            Quote: Sanguinius
            those who planned the operation in this way and did not bother with elementary actions during offensive operations
            Well, what exactly?
            Quote: Sanguinius
            Notification of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that we are advancing here and there, at such and such a time and after they organize defense there, only then attack to ram them in the forehead
            So that's exactly what you're suggesting.
            So stop heresy grind.
            1. 0
              22 February 2023 23: 32
              So that's exactly what you're suggesting.

              No, this is based on your logic, because apart from the tactics of pounding into the fortifications in the forehead, you can’t imagine anything else, so to speak, your vision of conducting offensive operations, I outlined laughing
              Well, what exactly?

              And those listed by the comrade from above with the nickname ColdWind, I completely agree with him, although I would also add the number of the entire group that was supposed to attack.
              1. -1
                23 February 2023 10: 33
                Quote: Sanguinius
                No, it's based on your logic
                In the Stone Age, it was possible to assemble an army and unexpectedly attack the enemy where he does not expect, but in our time everything is tracked from space.
                Quote: Sanguinius
                which were listed by a comrade from above with the nickname ColdWind
                This is where he writes nonsense about the tactics of the last century that has already set the teeth on edge? Have you tried reading the article? The enemy is smarter than sofa commanders and leaves no holes in the defense.
                1. 0
                  23 February 2023 18: 08
                  Have you tried to read the article?
                  Well read, And then what? This article is the ultimate truth!?) A guide to action?)))
                  What the author proposes is stupidity, which you also indulge.
                  This is where he writes nonsense about the tactics of the last century that has already set the teeth on edge?

                  The suppression of air defense and the destruction of the air force, followed by the seizure of air supremacy, is this the last century !? Conducting reconnaissance and striking at weak points is the last century!? Are you out of your mind!? And delivering air strikes from a roll-up, is this the future, right? laughing
                  The enemy is smarter than sofa commanders

                  In truth, the enemy will obviously be smarter than you)))
                  does not leave any holes in the defense.

                  The pepper is clear, while our Defense Ministry and the Supreme will gather for real, the enemy will shovel his entire territory, and you will be happy, you will storm the defense head-on, stumbling at every strong point where the enemy’s squad settled.
                  And then the war will definitely not end, we will take each village for half a year. Your plan is perfect, reliable as a clock!)
                  1. -3
                    24 February 2023 21: 51
                    Quote: Sanguinius
                    The suppression of air defense and the destruction of the air force, followed by the seizure of air supremacy, is this the last century !?

                    I wonder how many times you need to explain that for this you need to shoot down NATO aircraft and satellites?
                    Quote: Sanguinius
                    In truth, the enemy will obviously be smarter than you)))
                    That is, something that is smarter than you does not deny.
                    Quote: Sanguinius
                    The pepper is clear, while our Defense Ministry and the Supreme will gather for real, the enemy will shovel his entire territory

                    That is, there is nothing to argue.
                2. 0
                  23 February 2023 20: 13
                  "The enemy is smarter than sofa commanders and leaves no holes in the defense."
                  if there are no holes in the enemy's defense, then they need to be made. or nothing? Is there anything worse than a slingshot?
                  1. +1
                    24 February 2023 21: 52
                    Quote: aglet
                    if there are no holes in the enemy’s defense, then they need to be made

                    That's what they do.
      3. +5
        22 February 2023 10: 17
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Everything that the author described is just called a "military crime." Its top military leadership commits breaking people in the Donbass. Whereas it was necessary to fight in other territories, where girths and encirclements are possible. This is the art of war. This is just an axiom, you need to hit on weak areas, now they are fighting where it is convenient for the enemy. The DPR will be released at such a pace for 10 years.
        Since the middle of the 20th century, victory has been achieved in the air. This is the second axiom. After the air offensive, the destruction of the enemy's air defense and air force, the terror of the ground forces begins, the destruction of warehouses, reserves, headquarters. LBS isolation is required. None of this happens.

        That's when they hit weak areas, having achieved air supremacy, then the war of the 21st century takes place "with deep detours and coverage and a clear encirclement of the group."
        When this is not the case, then there is a war of the early 20th century, with the grinding of infantry.


        Briefly and accurately!

        The best comment - I join!
    2. 0
      23 February 2023 20: 06
      "How many times have they been explained this, but articles and comments from people still appear"
      well, yes, just squeeze out the enemy, from any settlement that is on the map, but only in the forehead, only hardcore. get around - Zarathustra does not allow
      1. -2
        24 February 2023 21: 53
        Quote: aglet
        get around - Zarathustra does not allow

        Have you tried to read the article?
  7. +3
    22 February 2023 07: 30
    An amazing article, I read it in one breath. Thank you!
  8. +12
    22 February 2023 08: 23
    Good article. Well reflects our current position. Our usual position is soldier heroes, and the shameful failure of everything else. As usual, we pave the way with blood...
    Drones of different classes dominate the air, and not ours, but the enemy’s. What is our answer? You need to run faster and hide better. An answer worthy of the warriors of medieval Zimbabwe. How would a power with advanced science and industry react? Well, in general, drones are unarmed or lightly armed, extremely slow objects. They are small, so that the existing air defense cannot catch them with their radars, and destroying a drone at the cost of 2 thousand dollars with a missile worth half a million greenery, as it were, is not very ...
    So platforms are needed that can detect and destroy just such targets. Let's leave aside the fact that drones appeared not a year ago. Of course, our military-industrial complex was not up to them, the development of the state budget is such an exciting process ... But the NWO has been going on for a year now. For a whole year, our "advanced" science should have been working on a solution, without exaggeration, of a key issue. And our valiant factories should tirelessly make experimental batches of such weapons and drive them to the troops for testing. And what? And where?
    In general, any of our offensives should begin with the fact that in several areas (so that the enemy does not guess the direction of the strike), enemy drones are completely destroyed, and satellites are blinded. Is there any hint of such a tactic in the article? (
    Our fighters and our equipment are dying because they are being hit by "carefully camouflaged snipers and anti-tank positions"! Wow. In fact, radar detection, thermal imaging, and activity analysis techniques, combined into one complex, cannot leave any positions carefully disguised. They are all, absolutely all pre-discovered. So how is it? Eat?
    There are cottages in Malta. All the ranks of our Moscow headquarters have entire bushes of controlled commercial firms. Palaces, cars for millions of dollars, watches for the same amount, it's all there. And there are no traces of detection complexes. Isn't it somehow related to each other? Mystery...
    1. +3
      22 February 2023 09: 32
      Quote: Mikhail3
      our military-industrial complex was not up to them

      Why be surprised? If this same military-industrial complex has not copied long-range shells of the ERFB-BB outlines for 30 years, or at least such shells have never hit the frame at our positions, and before that at military exhibitions, and there was no news about covering targets 30 km from LBS in that direction.
      1. +4
        22 February 2023 10: 45
        Quote: eule
        If this same military-industrial complex has not copied long-range shells of the ERFB-BB shape for 30 years

        Our military-industrial complex is commercial, and for the most part it does what the Customer has money for. And we have one customer for such things - MO. Did the native MO open a topic on such shells? Provided funding?
        Let me remind you about the story with "product 305", when the army team killed an already open topic on its ancestor - "product 79" by refusing to pay. And if the faces hadn’t picked up the topic, then we wouldn’t have a “fire-and-forget” helicopter RVZ.
        1. +2
          23 February 2023 15: 24
          Quote: Alexey RA
          . And we have one customer for such things - MO.

          But did the Moscow Region allocate more money for one designer than for Kokorin, Pugachev, or Zagitov? Moreover, we demand from aircraft designers for funds 20 times less than the West allocates full parity both in quality and quantity. Have such requirements ever been put forward for athletes and artists and have football players been able to be on the same level with Western rivals? In the People's Republic of China, VAT is 3% for the production of new equipment, and 30% for coffee shops and restaurants. Maybe Putin should adopt this?
          1. +1
            28 February 2023 11: 01
            Quote: gsev
            But did the Moscow Region allocate more money for one designer than for Kokorin, Pugachev, or Zagitov?

            * Looking thoughtfully towards Patriot Park.
            Maybe you need to properly distribute the available funds? For example, in order not to pump money into shows like tank beatalons, and then get epic fail at demonstration firing by TURs at the Army-2020 international forum? wink
      2. 0
        26 February 2023 12: 51
        And why do you need these shells? You can ask the gunners what they need, not what you like to gawk at.
    2. +2
      22 February 2023 10: 05
      Quote: Mikhail3
      In general, any of our offensives should begin with the fact that in several areas (so that the enemy does not guess the direction of the strike), enemy drones are completely destroyed, and satellites are blinded.

      Drones are constantly being shot down, and it is impossible to influence the satellites of countries with which we are not formally at war.
      1. -1
        23 February 2023 20: 20
        "and it is impossible to influence the satellites of countries with which we are not formally at war."
        You can't shoot down, but you can choke. if you can undermine the joint venture, then strangle the satellite, all the more
        1. +2
          24 February 2023 16: 28
          Quote: aglet
          you can’t shoot down, but you can choke

          How's that?
    3. -1
      22 February 2023 10: 18
      Quote: Mikhail3
      Good article. Well reflects our current position. Our usual position is soldier heroes, and the shameful failure of everything else. As usual, we pave the way with blood...
      Drones of different classes dominate the air, and not ours, but the enemy’s. What is our answer? You need to run faster and hide better. An answer worthy of the warriors of medieval Zimbabwe. How would a power with advanced science and industry react? Well, in general, drones are unarmed or lightly armed, extremely slow objects. They are small, so that the existing air defense cannot catch them with their radars, and destroying a drone at the cost of 2 thousand dollars with a missile worth half a million greenery, as it were, is not very ...
      So platforms are needed that can detect and destroy just such targets. Let's leave aside the fact that drones appeared not a year ago. Of course, our military-industrial complex was not up to them, the development of the state budget is such an exciting process ... But the NWO has been going on for a year now. For a whole year, our "advanced" science should have been working on a solution, without exaggeration, of a key issue. And our valiant factories should tirelessly make experimental batches of such weapons and drive them to the troops for testing. And what? And where?
      In general, any of our offensives should begin with the fact that in several areas (so that the enemy does not guess the direction of the strike), enemy drones are completely destroyed, and satellites are blinded. Is there any hint of such a tactic in the article? (
      Our fighters and our equipment are dying because they are being hit by "carefully camouflaged snipers and anti-tank positions"! Wow. In fact, radar detection, thermal imaging, and activity analysis techniques, combined into one complex, cannot leave any positions carefully disguised. They are all, absolutely all pre-discovered. So how is it? Eat?
      There are cottages in Malta. All the ranks of our Moscow headquarters have entire bushes of controlled commercial firms. Palaces, cars for millions of dollars, watches for the same amount, it's all there. And there are no traces of detection complexes. Isn't it somehow related to each other? Mystery...


      100500 +!
    4. 0
      23 February 2023 04: 20
      You write emotionally everything is correct. The origins of all this happened in the late 80s and continues to this day. Everything is private, the main thing is profit. The meaning of life is not creation, the meaning of life is enrichment, in the common people, just EAT. I don't care about the interests of the Country, the principle of all those who made their way to the top, to the very top. Others do not break through, they are devoured. Kill soldiers? heroism of soldiers They (90% of those who sat and applauded at the message) believe that it should be so. They think so, it's their worldview. Hence the response to your post. Why saturate the Army with the necessary, you need to EAT this money, raise cow-majors, and fight and die, slogans at once, they are all patriots at once.
      Therefore, the right message is coming, the main war is here, in the rear, with these sudden patriots. And without any shocks, cut off their oxygen. Revolution from above, legal, from below is not necessary, we will lose everything.
  9. +1
    22 February 2023 09: 42
    How painful it is to read about the truth of war. And decisions, in the conditions of agreements on the part of the Secretary General and the Politburo, are not seen ...
    1. 0
      23 February 2023 04: 26
      Truth, any, she always such. The truth about the war is doubly hard. If you write an article about Afghanistan in the first person, mine, for example, those who did not participate will go nuts from some things. And this was the USSR, the Power. It will be even worse about Chechnya.
      If we find out the truth about the snake ball at the top, under the leadership of the Alligarchs, we will generally think about whether we are on earth and whether they are people.
      I am sure that the Author has not yet stated everything, you simply cannot state everything, and you don’t need to.
      Thanks Author, sometimes couch generals (this is without sarcasm) also need to know what a soldier sees in a war, without banners and propaganda.
  10. +6
    22 February 2023 10: 09
    And all sorts of other rubbish, like German mines with an electromagnetic fuse that explode when approached with metal (for example, there is enough machine gun) or a walkie-talkie turned on.

    The author, there is a suspicion, messed up something (for example, referring to HPD F2) or even invented it.
    1. -1
      26 February 2023 12: 54
      The author himself did not see. They told him and cheated a little.
  11. +6
    22 February 2023 10: 18
    The most combat-ready subunits open the enemy defenses like a can opener, break it open by frontal breakthroughs and finish off the pockets with less combat-ready units. Rather, it is an offensive in the style of an asphalt skating rink, but it does not leave the encircled enemy army entrenched in the fortification and does not give a chance either to unblock it or to withdraw through the humanitarian corridor.

    Speaking conditionally, the type of one operation is “Stalingrad”, the type of the other is “Vistula-Oder”.

    This is not the Vistula-Oder. The Vistula-Oderskaya is just a quick breakthrough of the enemy’s defenses to the full depth and then a “race with reserves” - attempts by large mobile formations to pass the rear lines of defense, occupy communications centers and seize bridgeheads behind new natural lines before the enemy comes to his senses and pulls up reserves . In parallel, these same formations cut off the withdrawal routes of the enemy front-line units.
    Less mobile formations at this time, bypassing the defense centers in the same way, surround the dissected enemy formations that are in the rear of the advancing group and destroy them.
    And what the author described is Rzhev-42. Or Brusilovsky breakthrough.
    1. 0
      22 February 2023 10: 36
      And what the author described is Rzhev-42. Or Brusilovsky breakthrough.

      Well, Rzhev-42 is inseparable from the work of the 4th Directorate of the NKVD.
    2. +2
      22 February 2023 19: 39
      Please do not offend Brusilov.
  12. +7
    22 February 2023 10: 33
    Is there a question of "civilian" population on both sides in the LBS?
    And so beautiful, but I would be more careful with percentages. How to punish officers from a company to a regiment who are not and do not exist in combat units? I'm not talking about the first line of trenches.
    Why storm the city, turning it into ruins - if it's easier to turn it into ruins, and then clean it up without storming it?
    Where is Orthodox napalm, or rather volumetric detonating ammunition in buildings and trenches?
    1. +5
      22 February 2023 17: 40
      Quote: dfk-80
      Why storm the city, turning it into ruins - if it's easier to turn it into ruins, and then clean it up without storming it?

      So turning the building into ruins does not help. Checked by Stalingrad. Instead of multi-storey firing points, blockages are obtained that are inaccessible to equipment, and basements / first floors and underground utilities remain.
      1. +7
        22 February 2023 21: 09
        Good day to all. I am writing about the transformation of five-story buildings into those very ruins ... Back in 2000, in February-March, I happened to take part in the blocking of the Argun Gorge in military service. The village, on the outskirts of which we stood up with "Rapiers" and "Storms" was called, like, Varanda ... We fired at these very mountains (hills) - the mouth of this gorge from everything that was (we, tanks, howitzers, mortars, etc. and so on ...) for about two weeks, but there was no sense, the militants were still hiding in large forces somewhere there, on the slopes (hills) of these gates in the gorge ... The Pinocchio ubergun, secret at that time, arrived (us they didn’t let her in to look at 40 meters), and a lot of time passed, so I don’t remember how many units arrived there, one, or more ... This Pinocchio for the day of shooting at these hills (the shells could even be seen in flight, like fly) - a mini nuclear explosion as a result, it looked very impressive, all the tops of these hills were broken, so much so that literally the next day I personally (through the decision maker) observed our fighters who came without a fight to the tops of these hills ... This is the story of times , personally from me. Story two: my friend, also participated in the "Rapiers" in December 1999-January 2000. in the assault on Grozny. The rapiers hit the identified firing points in the windows of apartments in multi-storey buildings ... So. A colleague specifically saw how six-entrance five-story buildings turned into one and a half-story rubble-ruins after three hits of something large-caliber. As the officers told the guys, this is the work of the Tyulpan uberminer ... And now, without stories, here is my question on this article, with absolute respect for the author, because he himself is an attack aircraft and he himself survived it all ... Yes, as much as our soldiers can apply battle schemes with an unclear result for your survival, without a clue, but will this tactical maneuver succeed? I’m not trying to be clever, but I’m trying to understand - WHY CAPTURE ANOTHER FIVE-STORY BUILDING WITH LOSSES IN PERSONNEL, when this five-story building (yes, no matter the number of floors) can be DEMANDED TO THE STATE OF "LUONIC LANDSCAPE" and it will not be necessary to TAKE THIS HEIGHT, losing our soldiers ... Mirnyak , on the line of contact of troops, in apartments it definitely cannot be. So you can safely drop these dwellings, which during the war turned into pillboxes ...
        1. 0
          25 February 2023 00: 28
          Surely there is no peacekeeper? How do you know? The Armed Forces of Ukraine did not let the people out of Mariupol on purpose, so that such uberguns would not demolish them along with the city. Therefore, there are many civilians who died during the assault, according to various sources, from 10 to 20 thousand. Only science and industry can solve this problem.
  13. +4
    22 February 2023 11: 11
    But who will tell me - before the war, they wrote / read a lot and interestingly about thermobaric ammunition. It would seem that it is! The enemy sat down in a five-story building - burn it clean. Or - what? Again nonsense from the TV screens? What is the problem?
    Only about the so-called. "Civilians" and "human shields" - don't, okay?
    PS Well, here, dfk-80 (Valentin) took it off the tongue ...
    1. +2
      22 February 2023 11: 29
      before the war, they wrote / read a lot and interestingly about thermobaric ammunition. It would seem that it is! The enemy sat down in a five-story building - burn it clean.

      Name the specific "thermobaric munition" you are going to use.
      I have always advised my children - before you want to get an answer from a person to your question - answer it yourself.
  14. +2
    22 February 2023 11: 29
    Question to the author and real participants of the NWO. I watched Prigogine's film "The Best in Hell", how realistic is everything shown there?
    The commander of the "whites" towards the end of the film says that the "candle", building number 4 can be destroyed in 20-22 tank shots. Why were buildings No. 1 and 2 not destroyed?
    Next, hefty screens at the "yellow" checkpoint Where is the broadcast coming from? And just for the entourage?
    Who destroyed the Schumacher tank and with what? An air strike is shown, a kind of "god from the machine." Do the "yellows" have a helicopter, which was never used then?
    How was the D-30 "white" battery spotted after the move? The drone had already been driven away by that time.
    And finally. How effective is the use of a smoke curtain? After all, the enemy will shoot artillery into the smoke.
    Z.Y. In the same film, it is shown how a fighter on weight snaps cartridges from one store to another. Is this possible?
  15. +6
    22 February 2023 11: 42
    In order to judge officers for the loss of personal / s outside combat operations, they must be given powers at the beginning - to infiltrate people and organizations of any kind, and in case of refusal to allow the use of weapons to kill, shoot "gunners" without trial or investigation, and shoot l / s callers home from cell phones from the location ... Otherwise, this is not a court, but a court, as a result, all officers will be in prison, and privates will command the army ...
    You can't fight without losses. Moreover, every year the weapons become more powerful, and the means of reconnaissance are perfect, so that losses are inevitable.
    The only possibility of a war without losses against the major powers is the strike of the Strategic Missile Forces on the capital, the airfield, the location of large military units, weapons depots, without warning and declaring war, preferably at night.
    So that the leadership of the country be beheaded, and 70-80% of the military personnel killed, stockpiles of weapons and the military industry destroyed ... There is no one and nothing to command, and people care about weeding out, there is no one to organize any partisan movements and, again, nothing ...
    Everything else is nothing...
    Even in the Second World War, that the USSR at the beginning of the war managed to bomb the rear, that the Wehrmacht at 45 ...
    Modern weapons, being dispersed, will cause damage, no matter what commanders you put in. Though Suvorov, even Zhukov, even Caesar, even Macedonian ... Only an instant disarming strike by strategic forces, destroying 80% of military personnel and weapons in places of permanent deployment, that is, without declaring war and other public statements, can give a chance for the annexation of large states without serious losses ... Even the international coalition in Iraq, even in Afnan, suffered losses, although the Afghan army was many times worse equipped and less technologically advanced.
    And you want to fight with virtually the entire NATO bloc, and the enemy did not strike at the rear and did not bring losses - this is fantastic. This will not happen ... Yes, experienced commanders can reduce, but not avoid ... The same hamers, tornadoes, dots - these are arrows of destruction not even of a liquidation level, but of an army level, neither a battalion commander nor even a brigade commander can physically have the means resistance at this level...
    Pro completed the task with some losses ... And at what level do you want to judge? Despite the fact that we have already killed under 10 generals on the front line, the battalion commander and brigade commanders are without an account at all, whom do you want to judge? Now, if the commander gave a combat order, and he himself left the front line, then yes ...
    And if the commander went ahead himself, risked his life and completed the task, why should he be judged? For following orders? It's funny... And if the commander himself went into battle along with everyone, then he obviously carried it out, if not in the most effective, then in one of the most effective ways that it was really possible to execute. Because we take into account that the commander is mentally healthy and die himself and he was not going to lead the unit to the slaughter ...
    It is possible to judge the top leadership ... It is possible if the operation itself is headless, but in any case, there must be some units that are the first to go into battle and suffer significant losses, there is no other way, losses must then be counted for all units participating in the operation and looking at some average numbers ...
  16. +1
    22 February 2023 11: 49
    I think that with the introduction of such criteria in the army structure, they will treat personnel as effectively and carefully as in the BARS and PMC systems.


    Just yesterday, Prigozhin said that every day he loses hundreds of his fighters, somehow it doesn’t look like a careful attitude towards personnel.
  17. +4
    22 February 2023 12: 21
    Author ! Not Russian, but the Russian army. Cheat sheets or something, how to call the army now. Often this name began to appear in the texts of "advanced" analysts.
    1. +1
      24 February 2023 19: 19
      And why do you not like Russian, is it not Russian or what ?, or has it become less multinational because of this? Russian is clearly a collective image - it's obvious ... And there is no difference, Russian or Russian .. IMHO.
  18. +4
    22 February 2023 12: 49
    All this was the same in World War II.
    And then the enemy’s reconnaissance hit to the depth and hit during the period of troop movement with this piloted aircraft and from a low altitude, which is much more dangerous than today with drones and rocket launchers.
    They beat the strengthening of the position and the minefields are no worse than today. Beat the fortification of the city in Germany.
    All this hit, but they were able to attack successfully with divisions, and corps, and armies and fronts, and to great depths.
    And today, if you create the necessary grouping with a sufficient number of infantry, artillery, tanks, aviation, then the entire defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can be smashed to pieces, surrounded and destroyed in a month.
    So there is no need to tell fairy tales about some kind of modern, unprecedented and unseen complexity to come. You just need to mobilize the necessary forces (at least 2 million) - arm the necessary tens of thousands of tanks, cannons, mortars, drones. They will supply ammunition and fuel and carry out a real front-line offensive operation.
    At the same time, not the entire Ukrainian border is solid fortifications. At the beginning of the operation, they reached Kyiv practically without resistance.
  19. +6
    22 February 2023 13: 12
    Good article, smart and realistic. In the conditions of hostilities on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR, any other approach to solving tactical problems will lead to huge losses of PEOPLE, of which there are not many left on the planet. On the island of Russia, including. This is what the notorious "collective West" is counting on. The current situation that has developed around the Russian people and the multinational, multi-confessional Russian World, the collapse of the USSR, the troubles and lawlessness of trading on our land are precisely explained by the HUGE LOSSES OF REAL PEOPLE during the Great Patriotic War. In the mortal battle with Western collective fascism, the best died: the most devoted and decent communists and Komsomol members who rose at the call "Communists - forward!", The best hard workers and promising students, the best representatives of the humanitarian and technical intelligentsia, just decent citizens of the country, patriots of their Fatherland .
    Who was brought up by the humanoid dandruff that survived at any cost in the post-war years, with the help of the Jesuit West and at the expense of the heroic work of the surviving PEOPLE? Humanoids, those who, contrary to common sense and the commandments of Christ, are considered the "elite" of the Russian state.
    Therefore, PEOPLE in NWO must be protected. The best way for this is the will of the country's leadership to suppress the intelligence support of the fascist coves from the United States and NATO. Let them bring iron and meat, sooner or later both expensive iron and cheap meat will run out. And even paper dollars. But with satellite and aerial reconnaissance and target designation, something needs to be decided, without this decision the victory will be Pyrrhic.
  20. +1
    22 February 2023 13: 35
    Quote from cold wind
    Everything that the author described is just called a "military crime." Its top military leadership commits breaking people in the Donbass.


    Only by grinding the Ukronazis can the tasks of denazification be solved. In this case, the destruction of enemy personnel is not a means to achieve the goal, but a completely self-sufficient goal of the NMD.
    And this is not a crime, but a demonstrative punishment of criminals.

    Quote from cold wind
    Whereas it was necessary to fight in other territories, where girths and encirclements are possible. This is the art of war. This is just an axiom, you need to hit on weak areas, now they are fighting where it is convenient for the enemy.


    And where exactly? Does the enemy agree to fight with ours where it is more convenient for us? Or does he still prefer those areas that he had prepared in advance for defense? And what if there were no weak areas? Fortunately, weak areas can be strengthened in a timely manner by replenishing l / s (not only by Ukrainians).

    Quote from cold wind
    Since the middle of the 20th century, victory has been achieved in the air. This is the second axiom. After the air offensive, the destruction of the enemy's air defense and air force, the terror of the ground forces begins, the destruction of warehouses, reserves, headquarters.


    Smooth on paper, but it doesn't always work. It did not work in Korea, or in Vietnam, or in Afghanistan.
    Victory, ultimately, is achieved precisely on earth, alas.
  21. +6
    22 February 2023 14: 20
    It's like that. In order not to gnaw at the enemy's defense in depth, it was initially necessary to destroy the system of state administration at all levels and the land, air and water transport network from the western border.
  22. +4
    22 February 2023 15: 05
    Quote: Kostadinov
    All this was the same in World War II.
    And then the enemy’s reconnaissance hit to the depth and hit during the period of troop movement with this piloted aircraft and from a low altitude, which is much more dangerous than today with drones and rocket launchers.
    They beat the strengthening of the position and the minefields are no worse than today. Beat the fortification of the city in Germany.
    All this hit, but they were able to attack successfully with divisions, and corps, and armies and fronts, and to great depths.
    And today, if you create the necessary grouping with a sufficient number of infantry, artillery, tanks, aviation, then the entire defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can be smashed to pieces, surrounded and destroyed in a month.
    So there is no need to tell fairy tales about some kind of modern, unprecedented and unseen complexity to come. You just need to mobilize the necessary forces (at least 2 million) - arm the necessary tens of thousands of tanks, cannons, mortars, drones. They will supply ammunition and fuel and carry out a real front-line offensive operation.
    At the same time, not the entire Ukrainian border is solid fortifications. At the beginning of the operation, they reached Kyiv practically without resistance.

    That's right, some military pensioners can be called up under a million, many are rushing into battle, but they are not taken, but quite in their 60-65, and whoever is older can work as a gunner or tank driver, and they have skills and abilities.
  23. +8
    22 February 2023 15: 23
    Everything is good and right under the given conditions, at the tactical level, it is a pure and concentrated experience, as they say in "one's own skin". The question is different, more fundamental, with great consequences and with some bewilderment. The reason for the use of units and subunits for other purposes, putting them in conditions for which they were not prepared and not intended for many objective reasons, and their instructions and combat regulations (for those who don’t know, this is the military alphabet from a soldier to a general, written in blood , in the truest sense of the word), staffing, equipment, etc. fundamentally different from the conditions for performing the tasks. It is clear that due to good combat training, the highest professionalism, educated courage and pride, a special combat fraternity, the special forces perfectly fulfill the combat missions assigned to them that are unusual for them. Originally, the marines in the Caucasus mountains and the steppes of Ukraine, the Airborne Forces storm the city, defend the front in the first echelon (although according to the BU in the Airborne Forces there is only one in defense), and raid operations, DRGs, etc., for our infantry commanders, the whole mabuta, which something otherworldly not of this world. I mean, as a person who has some practical experience in this field of activity, along with pride, it causes resentment and irritation, which again, as in past conflicts, units and subunits of the Marine Corps, Airborne Forces, special forces of the National Guard as part of advanced assault groups, the elite is incompetently destroyed, the unique "surgical" instrument is "blunted and spent". A magnificent landing operation was carried out in Gostomel, by all canons, and where is the subsequent combined arms operation, a breakthrough and access to the captured and held object of the main combined arms units and divisions of the front. No, the next task was to advance towards Kyiv, without any logistical support, i.e. elite units were sent to slaughter, obviously impossible tasks were set. Where are the regular and planned rotations of l / s units, when every 2-3 weeks the unit should be withdrawn from the 1st line of the BS for rest and replenishment. Why, knowing about the accumulation of forces and the nature of the actions of the enemy in the Kharkiv region, only the commandant's companies of the National Guard and special forces remained there, when it was clear even to the "snotty lieutenant" that the khan was coming to them in this situation and so everywhere. All this criminal insolvency, incompetence, lack of any analysis and planning, and most importantly, indecisiveness and lack of initiative due to low professionalism and experience due to a flawed personnel policy based on nepotism, personal loyalty and hypocrisy, leads to unjustified risks and losses, and losses better prepared contract and personnel l / s.
    The question arises, where are the full-time motorized rifle and tank units and units, as it should be, in the first echelons and assault groups. Isn't it because all the "holes are plugged", as it has already become usual, by specialists, "one-piece exclusive tools", where every fighter, an infantry captain "stands", because a shoemaker bakes pies ... when the Civil Code of the Air Force, Airborne Forces, etc. .d. infantrymen by education and mentality. So it was in Afghanistan and the Caucasus and further down the list, starting with the Second World War. Hence aviation, incl. front-line (army) which does not fly up to the front, although with such capabilities and level, the enemy should no longer have a single armored object, even a horse-drawn cart to a depth of 10-km location, and the entire front edge is "rolled" to zero with fabs so that there was not even grass there, and the pilots "out of boredom" would have chased any fighter in a crowd. The year of the war, the goals are not clear (general incomprehensible wording for suckers), the tasks are not set, the population of the cities is both hammered and hammered, but the "circus" of dismantling PMCs with the "offended" of the Moscow Region began. Everything is going according to plan, according to whose?
  24. +1
    22 February 2023 15: 48
    Quote from cold wind
    Since the middle of the 20th century, victory has been achieved in the air. This is the second axiom. After the air offensive, the destruction of the enemy's air defense and air force, the terror of the ground forces begins, the destruction of warehouses, reserves, headquarters. LBS isolation is required. None of this happens.

    The axiom is just the opposite. The first seems to have been beaten by the Ethiopians who defeated the Italians in 1941 despite their air supremacy and use of mustard gas.
    In China 1947-49, Mao won without any aviation at all and with the enemy in complete air supremacy. The same thing beat in Korea 1950-53, in Vietnam and against the French and against the Americans and with a final victory in 1975, and in Afghanistan and in the period 1980-89 and most recently in 2001-2022,
    in Yemen today.
    The victory in the air did not help the Germans win the war in the East when they had air superiority for two whole years (from the summer of 1941 to the summer of 1943).
    1. -1
      23 February 2023 15: 55
      Quote: Kostadinov
      t. The first seems to have been beaten by the Ethiopians who defeated the Italians in 1941 despite their air supremacy and the use of mustard gas.

      The Italians have been in Ethiopia since 1940 in complete encirclement. The guerrilla war in Ethiopia became effective when the Italian occupying army entered into active hostilities against the British. Successfully advanced in Somalia, got bogged down in Kenya and Sudan in oncoming battles. What kind of massive use of Italian aviation in Ethiopia can we talk about if it fought for more than a year only on stocks of equipment, fuel, spare parts and ammunition accumulated before the war? In 1941, the British were advancing, and the British General Staff held back the desire of the Ethiopians to liberate their country on their own. Air superiority was first demonstrated in the Battle of England in 1940, when the Germans did not dare to launch an airborne assault and did not try to realize their superiority in infantry, tanks and artillery. Victory in a war is determined by the ratio of mobilization potential multiplied by the quality of training and weapons and divided by the number of losses. Whoever has the higher odds is more likely to win. If we can kill at least half a million punishers - the Armed Forces of Ukraine, with our obviously smaller losses, there is a chance to achieve the goals of the NWO.
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  26. -1
    22 February 2023 20: 10
    Some kind of complete nonsense, a hodgepodge of everything that just occurred to the author of the article. Let's start with a careful attitude towards personnel on the part of the P.V.K. losses to anyone and this is the main motivating factor in the use of a private military company in this operation, how many died, and who knows, no luck, God gave God took. Further, the author himself generally held in his hands such a book as the combat charter of the ground forces, in part, a platoon, a squad, a tank. There, what the author writes about as new, in his opinion, breakthrough technologies on the battlefield, everything is described and rewritten, but I agree there are certain new moments with the author everywhere, so where Suvorov didn’t have them in the Alps of Afghanistan, Chechnya, each war has its own specifics. the wives didn’t command because this nonsense can’t be easily published in a respected magazine like this. The war has its own laws that are not always clear to non-belligerent civilians guys and competent people and organizations should determine whether these losses were necessary or not, and not various bloggers and unfortunate journalists .All this exists in the country and the army, another question is how it works and how to give information to the population. It is sad that everyone sees himself as a strategist seeing the battle from the outside. I used toI was very surprised how some private commented on the decisions of the commander, well, why show this at all, it was the writer Astafyev, respected by me, who sinned greatly, but they were veterans, heroes who won the terrible war and were already a little old. But no, and now a new growth of demagogues has appeared from the pen who know exactly how we can defeat the adversary, you look at what is happening in the SMM and on the conduct of a special operation. The worst thing in the war is such amateur performances from people who have little idea, in general, such tactics and trying to share with others such transferable experience in quotation marks
    1. 0
      22 February 2023 21: 12
      "Some kind of complete nonsense, a hodgepodge of everything"
      And in the snout!! Who are you claiming?
      ".But no, and now a new generation of demagogues has appeared from the pen"
      Did you serve yourself? Did you dig trenches? Were you killed? What is death, you know?
      "transferable experience in quotation marks"
      You yourself quotes!!
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  27. +2
    22 February 2023 20: 35
    "the tank of the brigade rolls out for direct fire and shoots the ammo at the school and the outer five-story building. At this time, six infantry fighting vehicles (three kopecks and three kopecks) with troops inside"
    Respect and low bow to the author. I did not fight, but we were prepared for Afghanistan. Explain to me why we always attack superior enemy forces? In the movie "Best in Hell" the situation is the same. In these situations, there must be air superiority, by any means. Tanks, artillery of course. There is no need to graduate from academies here, and the sergeant understands what's what. Why did you agree to attack with such forces and in such a situation? This is to ruin l / s! Answer why is this happening? Don't you understand what death is? Why!!!!
    1. 0
      23 February 2023 16: 00
      Quote: steel maker
      why do we always attack superior enemy forces?

      The meaning of tactics and strategy is to attack the enemy only with a deliberately significant superiority in forces and be able to defend in convenient positions in front of a superior enemy.
    2. -2
      23 February 2023 20: 48
      "the tank of the brigade rolls out for direct fire and shoots the ammo at the school and the last five-story building"
      it is 3 km. in principle, the enemy can get something, or maybe not get it. BC of the tank - 40 shells, enough to ruin two houses in the dust for two times. but the place, from 5-6-10 km with correction, will ruin these houses even faster and completely safe for personnel. why else shoot from an infantry fighting vehicle, with their ridiculous calibers?
      1. +1
        24 February 2023 06: 50
        "It's enough to destroy two houses in the dust for two times."
        You are our expert. Explain then why we take half a year for each settlement?
        The author, using the example of one battle, explained why. And those who are used to grunting the chief accountant do not like it.
  28. +1
    22 February 2023 21: 20
    In general, of course, it is interesting and useful, however:
    Thus, assault operations in the NWO are a slow process. The process is not a zerg-rush to the cries of "cheers" by company groups, but a smart, cautious and consistent advancement with simultaneous demining, opening enemy firing points and their destruction, and endless waste in case of enemy strikes with artillery or mortars
    How long will the fighting continue in this case?
    But this statement is generally surprising:
    I think that with the introduction of such criteria in the army structure, they will treat personnel as effectively and carefully as in the BARS and PMCs system
    More than once it was reported that it happened very differently ...
  29. -1
    22 February 2023 22: 02
    In general, it worked well. The disadvantages are that the enemy has access to more technological means of detection than ours.
  30. +1
    22 February 2023 22: 35
    I read it with interest. But I can’t evaluate - the VUS does not allow. Yes, experience is a great thing and, as we used to say, "you can't drink away experience." The only question is that the databases described by the author have been going on for the 9th year and our scientists from the military sciences, professors and academics from all branches and branches of the Armed Forces, General Staff and others, should have collected, systematized and analyzed all this long ago. And to write, in parallel with dissertations, "primers" in order to be able to conduct modern combat successfully and with minimal losses in personnel and military equipment. And also to give recommendations to the Ministry of Defense on the order of our military-industrial complex of the corresponding military equipment, equipment, equipment, weapons and armaments. I am sure that this will be the case, but unfortunately, THEN, when each letter in such a "primer book" will be abundantly watered with soldier's sweat and blood. That's what you need to take responsibility for in the first place! And platoon and company vankas should not be extreme, they have the same fate as their fighters.
  31. +1
    22 February 2023 22: 54
    Author! Thank you. Excellent article, interesting and everything is clear, even there are no questions. Military good luck to you all.
  32. +1
    22 February 2023 23: 13
    Quote: Kostadinov
    Quote from cold wind
    Since the middle of the 20th century, victory has been achieved in the air. This is the second axiom. After the air offensive, the destruction of the enemy's air defense and air force, the terror of the ground forces begins, the destruction of warehouses, reserves, headquarters. LBS isolation is required. None of this happens.

    The axiom is just the opposite. The first seems to have been beaten by the Ethiopians who defeated the Italians in 1941 despite their air supremacy and use of mustard gas.
    In China 1947-49, Mao won without any aviation at all and with the enemy in complete air supremacy. The same thing beat in Korea 1950-53, in Vietnam and against the French and against the Americans and with a final victory in 1975, and in Afghanistan and in the period 1980-89 and most recently in 2001-2022,
    in Yemen today.
    The victory in the air did not help the Germans win the war in the East when they had air superiority for two whole years (from the summer of 1941 to the summer of 1943).

    Let me disagree:
    1. Ethiopia is something new that the Ethiopians beat someone there, they rushed at the tanks with spears and stabbed the crews through the viewing slots, and something down with the tank long live the spear? A defeated company or platoon or battalion with an exchange of 1:10 cannot be called a victory.
    2. China - the PLA had aviation, but in general, neither aviation was decisive in these events, but the general weakness of the Kuomintang, read Chuikov, who was an adviser in the Kuomintang army even before the war, you will discover a lot for yourself.
    3. Korea - well, actually, the UN forces came out victorious - they repelled the successful offensive of the northerners, and then the many-fold superior Chinese volunteers, and the exchange with the Chinese was, according to various sources, 1:3 or 1:5, all because of the air support of the battlefield. The northern armored vehicles were knocked out mainly by aircraft. Well, don’t forget about the MiG alley, if the B-29s bombed the northerners as they wanted, probably now Korea would be united. And Mao wouldn't fit in.
    4. Vietnam - the French with aviation were so-so, otherwise the Vietnamese artillery would have been knocked out. With the United States, well, while the Yankees were baiting the northerners into the Stone Age, they had to be mostly content with partisan struggle, despite the fact that the SV had the most powerful Soviet air defense, if the Yankees hadn’t withdrawn the troops, it’s quite possible that the northern ones would be tired
    5.Afghanistan - the fight against partisans is a little different, only air support allows you to minimize losses, in the absence of aviation, everything will come down to small arms combat and losses will be 1:1.
    6.1941-1943 - firstly, that the USSR did not have aviation? Moreover, the Soviet one was more numerous, although much less effective due to various reasons - lack of radio communications, outdated tactics, worse overall training, somewhat weaker aircraft, nevertheless, the Wehrmacht reached the Volga and the Caucasus. I liked Isaev’s statement about the battles for Boston - it would have been 1941, pieces with cover messers would have flown in and gouged the Americans, just as the Germans themselves smashed French tank counterattacks. But in this case, the Germans were hollowed out - the result is known. Had it not been for the bombing of Germany, if Germany had received those thousands of tanks, guns, missiles that were planned on paper, who knows when the war would have ended with surrender or a peace treaty.
  33. +2
    23 February 2023 00: 16
    due to the air dominance of Soviet aviation during that period (1944–1945) of the war.

    And that's the main thing we're missing. I'm not talking about the electronic warfare, which we are losing. The key to successful operations is the elimination of enemy control and supply. The elimination of control is a violation of communications, and the elimination of supply is the actions of attack aviation on communications. We cannot do any of this, and no change in the tactics of assaults will help ... alas
  34. +3
    23 February 2023 01: 38
    the opinion of a purely civilian jacket with a technical bias.
    let's not gouge out reconnaissance eyes in space and over the battlefield ..... we will get a hundred-year war.
  35. +2
    23 February 2023 01: 53
    Quote: Konnick
    due to the air dominance of Soviet aviation during that period (1944–1945) of the war.

    And that's the main thing we're missing. I'm not talking about the electronic warfare, which we are losing. The key to successful operations is the elimination of enemy control and supply. The elimination of control is a violation of communications, and the elimination of supply is the actions of attack aviation on communications. We cannot do any of this, and no change in the tactics of assaults will help ... alas

    Explain how to do it? Just don’t need idiocy about tactical nuclear weapons, destroying a bridge is more than a dozen calibers, strategic bridges were built in the USSR and are designed without jokes to strike nuclear weapons at a distance of 1 km, I don’t presume to say that it’s one hundred percent true, but one bridge builder told me this - about the fact that now such a margin of safety is very expensive and is not used. Even if you gouge a couple of supports, then temporary ones are quickly put up with a support, even if on the ground, an I-beam structure is cooked and the bridge works .... A railway is also a very tenacious thing, if there is a diesel locomotive or a steam locomotive and rails, then the Railway will live, I don’t think that with on the other side idiots and shoulder to shoulder put diesel locomotives in the depot. The Wehrmacht, having almost complete freedom in the air, could not disrupt the evacuation of industry beyond the Urals, google how many bombs the Piece carried, how many Caliber carries, multiply by the number of Pieces from Wiki and multiply by 4 - the average number of sorties per day, you will understand how many Calibers you need. By the way, the story about the Dragon Bridge in Vietnam is indicative - watch the video on the tube how much the Americans hammered it.
    1. +3
      23 February 2023 08: 27
      but one bridge builder designer told me this, about the fact that now there is such a margin of safety

      Well, as a bridge builder, I designed and assembled bridges, and even participated in the construction of the Kerch bridge, I will say that throwing the bridge off its supports is a trifling matter, the span is just free
      lies on the supports, so the explosion from below under the reinforced concrete, and even on the side of the steel truss (usually railway bridges with orthotropic slabs covered with ballast) blows the span from the supports. And post-war bridges have special chambers for explosives in their supports ... But you don’t need to destroy bridges, they will come in handy, I wrote about actions on the roads and the destruction of headquarters by bearing communications, when any vehicle is knocked out on the roads. But we do not have air supremacy, as during Operation Bagration, where 6000 of our aircraft were opposed by only 60 German fighters and where air strikes were delivered not on the front line, saturated with anti-aircraft artillery, incurring heavy losses earlier, artillery worked on it, but bombers from a great height along the railway nodes, and attack aircraft and even fighters operated along the roads. Thus paralyzing the movement of German troops, and communications and supplies. In general, Operation Bagration is a victory for our aviation, which Stalin gathered from several fronts, even the aviation of the Karelian Front covered the rear of our troops during the offensive. Such a kind of repetition of June 41st, just the other way around. If you look at the photos of those events, you can see the broken equipment on the roads, but not at all on the German defensive lines, especially since the Germans organized artillery defense there with long-range guns, which were dealt with by the same Il-2 attack aircraft, which, finally, did not work on the front edge of the enemy, buried in the ground and covered by 20mm anti-aircraft guns, and in the process of patrolling behind the front edge, artillery batteries were destroyed. And for the first time, our fighters used the German tactics of free hunting, in addition to destroying German aircraft, they even chased individual cars and attacked locomotives. And the bridges were preserved for the rapid movement of our troops. Such a total air terror turned out. And the arrows of the commanders on the maps and the tactics of the assault were not so important in this, the most brilliant operation of the Soviet Army. Happy February 23, the day of the SOVIET ARMY!
    2. 0
      23 February 2023 09: 54
      Explain how to do it?

      But no way. If it were possible, they would have done it. The artillery defense organized by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Marinka and Avdiivka, for example, cannot be overcome without aviation and communications. Moreover, we are not able to stop the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with military equipment, ammunition and fuel, although, as shown on TV, we have the coolest special forces of the GRU and the FSB. Where are they? Kremlin guarded? And they should be in the Carpathian mountains and blow up trains and columns of cars.
  36. -3
    23 February 2023 02: 03
    Quote: steel maker
    "the tank of the brigade rolls out for direct fire and shoots the ammo at the school and the outer five-story building. At this time, six infantry fighting vehicles (three kopecks and three kopecks) with troops inside"
    Respect and low bow to the author. I did not fight, but we were prepared for Afghanistan. Explain to me why we always attack superior enemy forces? In the movie "Best in Hell" the situation is the same. In these situations, there must be air superiority, by any means. Tanks, artillery of course. There is no need to graduate from academies here, and the sergeant understands what's what. Why did you agree to attack with such forces and in such a situation? This is to ruin l / s! Answer why is this happening? Don't you understand what death is? Why!!!!

    Because there is an order and it must be carried out at any cost, and I don’t know the one from above how true it is, but my grandfather’s neighbor said that everything happened in the Second World War, a stubborn officer could shoot from a TT for failure to comply, if, for example, someone doesn’t want to crawl a machine gun with grenades to throw, but so often by chance grenades from around the corner of the trench flew in.
    1. +5
      23 February 2023 09: 11
      Because there is an order and it must be carried out at any cost.


      The stupidest expression. If you read carefully, then the support of the infantry was in the form of one tank, which went to direct fire and, accordingly
      The tank fired two shots and was hit by an unidentified anti-tank weapon.

      And that was the last one. The tankers carried out the order, but did not complete the task, because the order was given about the action of the tank by a stupid commander who was not taught to think, but only to execute. Why, for this task, aviation and artillery were not attracted not by brigades, but by more powerful ones, and even with the use of smoke shells, blocking the visibility of the enemy. Why? But because someone was driven into the head that the order can be executed at any cost, even the loss of an entire brigade due to the capture of several houses. They taught to follow the order and didn’t teach to think ... the general without thinking gave the order to the brigade commander, he, also without thinking, to the tank company commander, he, without thinking to the tank crew, and he, at the cost of losing the last tank, in spite of everything, brought to the line of sight tank. Such orders are passed on ... who did not even think about it.
  37. -2
    23 February 2023 02: 38
    To be honest, reading the author's article, there is a clear understanding of why the Americans dragged us into this conflict! Why did they leave Afghanistan for this.
    The "gray zone", as a rule, consisting either of a burnt forest belt, pitted with abandoned trenches and trenches, and craters from shells, with a lot of stumps sticking out of the ground and fragments of burnt trees broken by explosions, or destroyed residential buildings, piles of bricks, the remains of lined equipment and civil vehicles, concrete poles, bits of asphalt, metal transmission towers, pits and cellars.
    In general, an extremely impassable terrain, as a rule, mined with all kinds of mines that mankind has only come up with: from anti-tank to manually installed PFMok, banal tripwires, and also sprinkled with petals from containers that sometimes lie for months, and sometimes spontaneously explode one at a time. Add to this also unexploded mines from mortars, including 120 caliber

    Reading these lines brings tears to my eyes...
    From fear, the scrotum in shorts shrinks and I want to give up !!!
    If Zhukov at the meeting would have reported to Stalin like this and concluded: "using a large unit" is not possible and will lead to losses !!!
    How do you, dear members of the forum, think that Stalin would respond to Zhukov? And what if comrade Rokosovsky had been fiddling with Bakhmut for several weeks or months?
    And he would explain that he cannot destroy the enemy because "
    the entire Donbass is a continuous agglomeration. Multi-storey urban development develops into urban settlements, garden plots, towns, villages and industrial facilities such as factories, mines and railway stations are located around them.
    и
    And all this, taking into account the hills and lowlands, and rivers with swampy floodplains. It turns out that, bypassing one object, the advancing group approaches another and, being in an open area, inevitably comes under fire from two sides - since it comes between two defense nodes.


    I'm afraid the marshals would not have commanded the parade at 45m ...
    And how annoying to read about the storming of a five-story building !!! After all, our invincible was stopped not by something in the style of concrete pillboxes with armored doors, but by an indestructible panel that can be shot, but it will hold on and will not let us pass ... After all, this is a panel in which the windows are hung with rags !!!
    the windows are hung with burlap or scraps of cloth and cellophane, or barricades of furniture.
    that's where the power is!!!
    And there - you never know what is prepared. The enemy could break through the walls between the entrances, could make holes in the walls in the apartments and cover them with cabinets

    Yes author! And there, behind the sofa, the babayka will jump out! And we have only 10 people and one tank! And now the tankers will do their best and the infantry will rush back!
    After all, the basis of your or now our infantry tactics should be
    endless waste in case of enemy strikes with artillery or mortars.
    !!!
    I ran up, ran away, and this is how our NWO goes. And if you lost more than 10 percent of the infantry, then a mustache!
    official investigation on the justification of the losses.

    And that's what the Americans turned out to be right!
    They realized that our army was no longer a sledgehammer that broke through the defenses of the Wehrmacht with ISs, but how do you write a can opener to cut through a can of canned food! And therefore, they cannot break through the Ukrainian-NATO defense in landings and five-story buildings, and most importantly, there are 300 thousand Russian people in the army, and therefore they cannot lose more than 10 percent at the level of liberalism! There will be no one to fight! Therefore, 10 people, hiding from artillery and teplaks, as well as UAVs and Musk’s satellites, quietly crawl towards the five-story building! After all
    Sometimes the route depends on a hawthorn bush or a concrete pillar lying on the ground.
    good
    That's why our infantry hides in the bushes and clings to the land! Shame and shame.
    Instead, we need to tear the UAV from the sky, mobilize more people into the infantry. Create more vehicles and art. And strike with it where the flanks are weaker and the terrain is smoother!
    And if we are afraid of artillery, mines, terrible five-story buildings and losses, we will not win the war!
    And this tactic will not lead to victory in the war!
    1. +2
      23 February 2023 07: 02
      "Ran up, ran away, that's about how our SVO goes. And if you lost more than 10 percent of the infantry, then that's it!"
      You don't fuss over that. The author described the current state of the army. Moreover, he himself went through the war. And if 10% is not enough for you, then you need to go to the Wagners. They officially have 35% losses and it is believed that there are "great generals".
    2. -1
      23 February 2023 10: 37
      Quote: Alexey G
      If Zhukov at the meeting would have reported to Stalin like this and concluded: "using a large unit" is not possible and will lead to losses !!!

      Well, go to the front rows. What were the losses then and what are they now?
      1. -1
        23 February 2023 12: 28
        I'm not kidding, I'm sorry! I understand that we are now far from the Soviet army! And in these conditions, we have to timidly crawl, and not proudly attack!
        It is not the tactics that need to be changed, but the conditions! Increase strength!
        And the author of the article suggests that we switch to a new tactic and charter of timid and cautious crawling! Yes, the situation requires both crawling and digging in and disguising yourself! But why don't we change all our tactics to infiltrate 10 people??? This is a direct path to the eternal positional war!
        Russia will never crawl before the enemy!
        When I read this article, I once again realized how right Strelkov was after all!
        1. -2
          23 February 2023 12: 49
          Quote: Alexey G
          I understand that we are now far from the Soviet army! And in these conditions, we have to timidly crawl, and not proudly attack!
          Once again - forward first to the machine guns.
          And then there are a lot of screamers who demand to attack right now and with all their might. But then all these screamers will shout that we have huge losses and we are throwing the corpses of the enemy.
          1. 0
            23 February 2023 13: 48
            Well, then you again! I will go forward, but not to machine guns, but to victory!
            screamers demanding to attack now and with all their might

            I’m not a loudmouth trader and I don’t call to attack with all my might, since we don’t have the strength yet! But I propose to create these forces for the new army. And for this it is necessary to mobilize the economy and, above all, production!
            But when the forces will be, then yes! 10 people and one tank each won't win the war!
            1. 0
              23 February 2023 14: 59
              Quote: Alexey G
              I don’t call to attack, because we don’t have the strength yet
              And "will" and what? Forward to the grave? Read the article, where the author clearly explains what an offensive is and how to carry it out.
              1. +1
                23 February 2023 19: 23
                And they will, and it is necessary to attack differently! By concentrating forces in large units and breaking through the front, surrounding and destroying large enemy formations, and not waging an endless war with no chance of victory!
                But the author advises endless frontal attacks with small forces without a chance to destroy the enemy, but only by squeezing him out! Read carefully and use your brain!
                The path to the grave for Russia is just this path!
                1. -2
                  24 February 2023 12: 45
                  Quote: Alexey G
                  By concentrating forces in large units and
                  which will be perfectly visible from space and will become excellent targets for MLRS and enemy artillery.
                  Quote: Alexey G
                  Read carefully and use your brain!
                  Follow your advice, it might help.
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                    1. -3
                      24 February 2023 16: 30
                      Quote: Alexey G
                      Attacks with small forces are an expenditure of funds with the achievement of small results.
                      Can you prove me otherwise? Can you prove that the actions of groups of 10 people can bring victory in a major battle?


                      Quote: Dart2027
                      That is, having a twofold superiority in numbers, fourfold in artillery, a third in tanks and aircraft - they lost almost two and a half times more people?
                      Amazing! This is how we should fight! (it's sarcasm)
                      1. 0
                        24 February 2023 16: 43
                        We must fight in such a way as to destroy and capture large enemy units, divisions, corps, and armies. This will create holes in the front line and force him to weaken the defenses of other areas and retreat for considerable distances!
                      2. 0
                        24 February 2023 18: 21
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        We must fight in such a way as to destroy and capture large enemy units, divisions, corps, and armies. This will create holes in the front line
                        In order to surround something there, you first need to create these very holes in the front line. And this can only be done with a frontal attack, because the front is solid.

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, having a twofold superiority in numbers, fourfold in artillery, a third in tanks and aircraft - they lost almost two and a half times more people?
                        Amazing! This is how we should fight! (it's sarcasm)
                      3. 0
                        25 February 2023 01: 25
                        Firstly, the front is not continuous, the enemy created a system of strong points, but he did not create a solid line! Read the author about it.
                        Secondly, not just a blow to the forehead, but a blow in a convenient place, at a convenient time and on a weak defense. But the most important thing is that there should be reserves behind, because a blow to the forehead in itself does not give anything, you need to quickly and deeply move forward without allowing you to create a defense in the rear, and this cannot be done without large and mobile forces!
                      4. 0
                        25 February 2023 06: 52
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Firstly, the front is not continuous, the enemy created a system of strong points, but he did not create a solid line! Read the author about it.
                        I read
                        It would seem a logical decision - to overcome the fortified nodes bypassing, in open areas, with advice on demining fields by firing artillery and using anti-mine tank trawls, but ... The fact is that the entire Donbass is a continuous agglomeration. Multi-storey urban development develops into urban settlements, garden plots, towns, villages and industrial facilities such as factories, mines and railway stations are located around them.

                        And all this, taking into account the hills and lowlands, and rivers with swampy floodplains. It turns out that, bypassing one object, the advancing group approaches another and, being in an open area, inevitably comes under fire from two sides - since it comes between two defense nodes. The operation for deep coverage and dissection is, of course, beautiful, but it requires the accumulation of a huge amount of reserves and then their prompt introduction into the breakthrough zone.


                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Secondly, not just a blow to the forehead, but a blow in a convenient place, at a convenient time and on a weak defense.

                        And the enemy is so stupid that he will leave these places - please go through.
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          2. 0
            23 February 2023 21: 02
            "Once again - forward first to the machine guns"
            is it not kosher to suppress these machine guns? is it necessary to take them head-on, and save shells, mines, the same machine guns?
            1. 0
              24 February 2023 12: 46
              Quote: aglet
              is it not kosher to suppress these machine guns?
              Well, show me how.
            2. 0
              24 February 2023 16: 44
              Here is one reasonable person appeared! God bless!!!
      2. -1
        23 February 2023 20: 58
        "Well, go to the front ranks. What were the losses then and what are they now?"
        What were the results then and what are they now? but we now learned about the losses of that time, but about today's, sometime the day after tomorrow, if they say
        1. 0
          24 February 2023 12: 48
          Quote: aglet
          What were the results then and what are they now?
          Now we are fighting with small forces, while the enemy is being dragged to the front line from the street. But then ... They advanced right up to Moscow.
          1. +1
            24 February 2023 16: 46
            Yes, with small forces, but it is necessary to strive for large forces, and not for small groups !!!
            1. -2
              24 February 2023 18: 23
              Quote: Alexey G
              but it is necessary to strive for large forces, and not for small groups

              Very pathetic.
              Quote: Dart2027
              we are fighting with small forces, while the enemy is being dragged to the front line from the street
              Is there anything to say about this?
              1. 0
                25 February 2023 01: 29
                You watch different media more ... six months ago they said that Europe would soon be unable to live without our gas and about the fact that the drug addict Zelensky would not last long at the helm and about the aircraft we destroyed and most importantly air defense !!
                Only now, according to the results, all this turned out to be an exaggeration, to put it mildly!
                Well, maybe they grab on the streets, so what? But we don’t have enough, but we have the upper Lars!
                You better think about what we will do in the summer, when they will train mobs and arm them with all sorts of tanks and missiles with drones ...
                Soon the thaw and hostilities will completely freeze like jelly!
                Is there anything to say about this?

                Of course have. Their attacks with forces up to a company or a little more during the winter led to losses, since they cannot strike with a big fist without aviation, and small groups led to the expenditure of forces without the proper result! We created good trenches, Sobyanin brought stoves and wood for cladding with an elevator to the trenches and dugouts! And we hit small groups of art! Like in a dash!
                1. -3
                  25 February 2023 06: 55
                  Quote: Alexey G
                  Only now, according to the results, all this turned out to be an exaggeration, to put it mildly!
                  Yes how to say. Only the deaf have not heard about the deindustrialization of Europe.
                  Quote: Alexey G
                  Well, maybe they grab on the streets, so what? But we don’t have enough, but we have the upper Lars!


                  Quote: Alexey G
                  Of course have. Their attacks with forces up to a company or a little more during the winter led to losses, since they cannot strike with a big fist without aviation, and small groups led to the expenditure of forces without the proper result!

                  That is, the chosen tactics allow you to suffer losses many times less than that of the enemy, but this is bad. Original.
                2. +2
                  26 February 2023 13: 29
                  Europe is just lucky. The mildest winter in the last 50 years.
    3. +2
      23 February 2023 16: 08
      Quote: Alexey G
      And what if comrade Rokosovsky had been fiddling with Bakhmut for several weeks or months?

      Probably Rokossovsky lost during the battles for Orel in one month about the same as Gerasimov in a year of NVO having about the same territorial successes from March 1943 to August.
      1. 0
        23 February 2023 19: 30
        For your information:
        Donbass operation (August 13-September 22, 1943) The Red Army completely cleared the Donbass of the Nazis and began to push them beyond the Dnieper.

        That is for a month. The forces of the parties were significant: the USSR - 1,053 million people, 21 guns, 000 tanks, 1257 aircraft. Germany has 1 people, 400 guns, 540 tanks, 000 aircraft. Having lost 5400 people, the Soviet troops destroyed 900 Nazis killed, wounded, missing.
        And the liberation of Ukraine ended with the Carpathian-Uzhgorod operation (September 9-October 28, 1944). An integral part of the East Carpathian operation, during its troops liberated Transcarpathian Ukraine.
        That is, the Soviet troops liberated all of Ukraine in 1 year!
        1. -3
          24 February 2023 12: 52
          Quote: Alexey G
          Having lost 273 people, the Soviet troops destroyed 500 Nazis

          That is, having a twofold superiority in numbers, fourfold in artillery, a third in tanks and aircraft - lost almost two and a half times more people?
          Amazing! This is how we should fight! (it's sarcasm)
          1. +1
            24 February 2023 16: 50
            What did you think? But even 115 Nazis were destroyed, which almost half and all of Ukraine was liberated! There is no war without loss. But they were Germans. And here the enemy is surrounded by us everywhere. Look at the map. From the north and east and south we are all around. The enemy is sitting in a ledge and we cannot surround Bakhmut! Bahmut Karl!!!
            1. -2
              24 February 2023 18: 19
              Quote: Alexey G
              There is no war without losses.
              And therefore it is necessary to throw corpses at the enemy?
              Quote: Alexey G
              And here the enemy is surrounded by us everywhere.
              AND? He is pressed from three sides.
              1. +1
                25 February 2023 01: 40
                Ha ha ha!!! Are you seriously? The battle of Stalingrad is the throwing of corpses? Operation Bagration _ is it throwing corpses? NO. This is the destruction of the 6th army of the enemy and the destruction of the army group center in Belarus! Feel the army and army group of the enemy put to death! Nobody came home! they were afraid of the word Stalingrad alone like fire!
                AND? He is pressed from three sides.
                Who is pushing us??? We are crushing Bakhmut from a fingertip, and by the spring we will not give a hike!
                Because we press with small forces and in one small place! Picking picking and the whole world thinks this is Russia! And we were afraid of her!
                we had to carry out the NWO in such a way that NATO would be put in their pants along with America! So that, out of fear, their cock turns into a clitoris and the lukewarm flow!
                and we are at war in such a way that we are ashamed in front of our grandfathers!
                1. -3
                  25 February 2023 06: 59
                  Quote: Alexey G
                  Ha ha ha!!! Are you seriously?

                  That is, there is nothing to say.
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  That is, having a twofold superiority in numbers, fourfold in artillery, a third in tanks and aircraft - they lost almost two and a half times more people?
                  Amazing! This is how we should fight! (it's sarcasm)

                  I am writing based on the data you provided. Is there anything to say in terms of the ratio of forces and losses?
                  Quote: Alexey G
                  we had to carry out the NWO in such a way that NATO would be put in their pants along with America!

                  That is, nothing but primitive slogans can be said.
                  1. 0
                    25 February 2023 11: 57
                    That is, there is nothing to say.

                    USSR - 1,053 million people.
                    Germany has 540 people.
                    That is, we attacked with an almost 2-fold advantage in people, although we should have 3-fold, but still. Compare now. Are we more than 2 times more than the APU?
                    But in terms of guns, we had almost 4 times higher.
                    There is a slight advantage in tanks, but in aircraft by 500 units.
                    Having lost 273 people, the Soviet troops destroyed 500.
                    That is, they lost not 1 to 3, but even less, but the goals were achieved. That is, they attacked one to two and lost less than it should be 1 to 3.
                    What now.
                    We fight for a year. Do you have data on our losses?
                    I have no. Have the goals been met? Also no.
                    1. -3
                      25 February 2023 13: 44
                      Quote: Alexey G
                      That is, we attacked with an almost 2-fold advantage in people, although we should have 3-fold, but still. Compare now. Are we more than 2 times more than the APU?

                      That is, the USSR could only attack with a threefold advantage, and the RF Armed Forces attack being in the minority. Well, who fights in numbers, and who in skill?
                      Quote: Alexey G
                      We fight for a year. Do you have data on our losses?
                      I do not have.

                      We have data on mobilization, which speaks well of who has more losses.
                      Quote: Alexey G
                      Having lost 273 people, the Soviet troops destroyed 500.
                      That is, they lost not 1 to 3, but even less
                      If they had lost three times less than the Germans, then yes, everything is fine, otherwise ...
                      1. 0
                        25 February 2023 21: 47
                        That is, the USSR could only attack with a threefold advantage, and the RF Armed Forces attack being in the minority. Well, who fights in numbers, and who in skill?

                        Anyone can attack with only a threefold advantage, or even more!
                        And it's not just about people. This may be a 2-fold advantage in people, but on the other hand, a 4-fold advantage in aircraft or artillery or tanks and self-propelled guns.
                        Overweight can be created locally! That is, everywhere approximately equally, but in one place, and preferably 2 places at once more. One blow is the main one and the second is a distraction!
                        We also have an edge. In the guns! In aviation in tanks! I can't say in numbers, but it's significant. we shoot three times as many shells a day as they do, which means more guns and shells.
                        And there are fewer of us in the infantry. But we're getting worse!
                        Where do you see our successes? There is no winter attack as such. Face the truth! Kharkov has long needed to be surrounded and annexed because it is in a semicircle! This arrangement is a gift for the general! But we don't have the strength to do it. Look at the map. It's like a naked and beautiful woman. But we do not have the male power to master it. We need tank divisions and a lot of mobile artillery. And you need a lot of aircraft and drones to completely hang over the place of strikes! Then no one will stop this power!
                        We attack in different directions, at least in three without a common plan and in no place did we break through the front and create advantages.
                        And the Armed Forces of Ukraine created such an advantage over us in the fall and we lost a lot of territories in the Kharkov region, which we still cannot return!
                        What we have now is the victory of defense over the offensive! In fact, we are conducting an active defense and yes, we are causing damage to them, but they can also go on the defensive, and then what???
                      2. -1
                        25 February 2023 22: 23
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        And there are fewer of us in the infantry. But we're getting worse!
                        Of course, because now no one is driving the people to an unsuppressed defense.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Face the truth! Kharkov has long needed to be surrounded and annexed because it is in a semicircle! This arrangement is a gift for the general! But we don't have the strength to do it. Look at the map.

                        Read the article
                        The fact is that the entire Donbass is a continuous agglomeration. Multi-storey urban development develops into urban settlements, garden plots, towns, villages and industrial facilities such as factories, mines and railway stations are located around them.
                        And all this, taking into account the hills and lowlands, and rivers with swampy floodplains. It turns out that, bypassing one object, the advancing group approaches another and, being in an open area, inevitably comes under fire from two sides - since it comes between two defense nodes.
                        Well, or remember the Kursk Bulge.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        In fact, we are conducting an active defense and yes, we are causing damage to them, but they can also go on the defensive, and then what???
                        In fact, they are already on the defensive.
                        Simply put, again a set of slogans that have nothing to do with reality.
                      3. 0
                        26 February 2023 00: 00
                        They are not on the defensive. They took Izyum, Krasny Liman, Kherson! They took advantage of our numerical advantage and our weakness! This is not a slogan, this is a fact. And after that they attacked all autumn until they exhausted their strength. This is also a fact and not a slogan.
                        Our demilitarization and denazification operation is bogged down! Again a fact.
                        Throughout the winter, our media announced a major offensive! It is a fact. Where is it Carl?
                        I have facts. You?
                        Expressions like we defeat by skill? What skill? Under Ugledar for example? Or near Kyiv a year ago? With what skill and what did we win?
                        Bought Iranian UAVs! Is this our skill? Drowned the cruiser Moscow? Have you lost a company of mobilized people in Makiivka? Is aviation afraid to take off or is it shooting from a hill into the white light?
                        Who has slogans? I have facts. You don't see the facts. So you have declarations! Do you criticize the USSR? But he won the war and that's a fact. And we? Grandma for two!
                        We may have had a chance to take Kyiv. Do you think NATO will allow us to approach it a second time? I highly doubt it. We have already shown a lot of what we are incapable of on the field. They are not afraid of us! All red lines have been crossed. The streams are blown up, the tanks are driving. And soon the planes will arrive and the more we fight as you like, the less chance of success! And it's not a fact, it's a prediction!
                        We don't have a key to solve the problem. We are freezing the conflict and redirecting the flow of resources to the east. That's what we do. there are no negotiations and we have established a de facto draw! We need this draw because we are not ready to win. Cause? We don't have the strength to win!
                        New military reform in Russia! Have you read? What's in it? Increase in the size of the army!! It is a fact. What is he talking about? About the fact that there is little strength. So I'm basically right!
                      4. 0
                        26 February 2023 00: 22
                        I saw the root of the problem 10 months ago and wrote about it. Then I saw the same conclusions from Strelkov and realized that he was right ...
                        I'm afraid the reality of the problem is not with me, but with you ... since your analysis is not based on facts and understanding of military strategy
                      5. 0
                        26 February 2023 07: 31
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        They are not on the defensive. They took Izyum, Krasny Liman, Kherson! They took advantage of our numerical advantage and our weakness! This is not a slogan, this is a fact. And after that they attacked all autumn until they exhausted their strength. This is also a fact and not a slogan.

                        That is, they used the tactics of zerg-rush and put a lot of people. Why didn't they continue their "successful" offensive actions? Yes, because their losses were such that all the hospitals were filled with the wounded. It is a fact.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Expressions like we defeat by skill? What skill?

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        We have data on mobilization, which speaks well of who has more losses.


                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Who has slogans? I have facts. You don't see the facts.
                        That is, there is nothing to object to the above.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Do you criticize the USSR? But he won the war and that's a fact.
                        After 4 years, mostly on their own territory and with great blood.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        The streams are blown up, the tanks are driving.
                        First of all, Europe itself suffered from the explosion of flows, and several statements about tanks have already appeared that they will be, but in scanty quantities.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Increase in the size of the army!! It is a fact. What is he talking about?
                        The fact that additional parts are being created to protect directions that were not previously considered dangerous.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        We are freezing the conflict and redirecting the flow of resources to the east. That's what we do.
                        Because the East is ready to buy them, and what does the freezing of the conflict have to do with something I don’t understand. Aren't you tired of writing nonsense?
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        I'm afraid the reality of the problem is not with me, but with you ... since your analysis is not based on facts and understanding of military strategy


                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Of course, because now no one is driving the people to an unsuppressed defense.
                      6. 0
                        26 February 2023 18: 10
                        They used quite modern NATO tactics, which they probably tested against us in Syria! This tactic works well against disparate groups, and then we threw all the equipment, even modern tanks, part of the T90-x M breakthrough from the 1st Tank Army, for example.
                        However, thanks to the abandonment of Kherson, we managed to stabilize and strengthen the front. And this tactic has ceased to be effective, especially against the backdrop of a shortage of shells. Hence the losses increased. But they can afford them. They also gathered up the streets.
                        And we still haven’t returned Raisins, just like Kherson.
                        You know. I got bored with you. You have nothing against the given facts.
                        which were not previously considered dangerous.


                        three new directorates of aviation divisions will be created - eight new bomber regiments, one fighter regiment, as well as six army aviation brigades;
                        five divisions of the marine corps will be formed on the basis of the existing marine brigades;
                        two new air assault divisions will appear in the Airborne Forces;
                        five new artillery divisions of military districts and high-capacity artillery brigades will appear in strategic axes;
                        three new motorized rifle divisions will appear as part of combined arms formations in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions;
                        an army corps will be formed in Karelia;
                        combined arms and tank armies will receive mixed air divisions and army aviation brigades, each of which will have 80-100 helicopters.
                        Serdyukov's brigades are being replaced by the good old divisions, that is, the units will be enlarged for what? Small units did not justify themselves in a big war, which should have been proved!
                        FROM DIVISIONS TO DIVISIONS

                        In fact, it is proposed to quantitatively restore the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation almost to the size of the Armed Forces of the USSR in this territory - but, of course, on a new organizational and technical basis. In fact, the reform of Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, focused on waging local wars against a clearly much weaker enemy (this is how Western armies have been fighting for 30 years, this is how we ourselves fought in Georgia and Syria), “is turning back.”

                        Divisions previously rolled up into brigades are being redeployed into divisions. Moreover, new divisions are being formed from scratch, and in significant numbers. Thus, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are once again reorienting themselves towards waging a “big” classical war against an enemy of equal strength.

                        Вот читайте. https://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2023-01-20/3_1221_moscow.html
                        There is a link!
                        and more:
                        It is interesting to note that the formation of new formations has a clear and distinct "shock-fire" bias. There are only three motorized rifle (that is, infantry) divisions, and not a single tank division. Instead, five artillery divisions, eight bomber aviation regiments, six army aviation brigades, and an unknown number of high-capacity artillery brigades will be formed. It follows from this that in future wars, the RF Armed Forces must "crush" the enemy with artillery and aircraft.

                        and in continuation:
                        The landing force should play an additional role: the already largest Russian Airborne Forces in the world will receive two more divisions (“When the Supreme Reserve comes into play”, “NVO”, 21.09.18/XNUMX/XNUMX).

                        It is quite logical that they will not be airborne, but airborne assault. The two already existing airborne divisions are quite enough for the RF Armed Forces, moreover, it is not very clear where they can land by parachute - in the deep rear of which enemy.

                        But the role of air assault formations, landing in the near rear of any enemy from helicopters on their own feet, is more than understandable: they must intensify the defeat and disorganization of the enemy after exposure to artillery and aviation.

                        As for the line units of the ground forces (tank and motorized rifle), then, obviously, they will be assigned mainly an auxiliary role: finishing off the enemy, occupying and controlling the territory (out of the three new motorized rifle divisions, two are just designed to control new territories - Zaporozhye and Kherson regions ). In fact, this is the implementation of the American concept of "non-contact war" in some hypothetical Russian version.

                        And as a conclusion to the road: if the country's leadership believed that everything is according to plan and we win with skill, the reform of the army would not be needed! You can hang noodles on Carl's wife! I won't get out! hi
                      7. 0
                        26 February 2023 18: 28
                        After 4 years, mostly on their own territory and with great blood.

                        ; years with an army in which all of Europe fought, and not with the Armed Forces of Ukraine! And most importantly, then we occupied half of this very Europe Karl!
                      8. -1
                        26 February 2023 18: 36
                        We are freezing the conflict and redirecting the flow of resources to the east. That's what we do.

                        Because the East is ready to buy them, and what does the freezing of the conflict have to do with something I don’t understand. Aren't you tired of writing nonsense?

                        Follow the thought. if the conflict is frozen, then it will not be possible to deliver to Europe, because the conflict has not been resolved. If...then. Did you talk about implication at the university? Or are you an absentee?
                        We had super-lucrative contracts with the Germans, not like with the Chinese, and we cannot supply the Germans, since we did not resolve the conflict on the ruin. Now, if we can win, then sooner or later the Americans will take their hands off the neck of the Germans ...
                        Okay, you seem to be quite tight! Who gave you the whole gene of the major here !!!
                      9. -1
                        26 February 2023 20: 20
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        They used quite modern NATO tactics, which they probably tested against us in Syria! This tactic works well against disparate groups, and then we threw all the equipment, even modern tanks, part of the T90-x M breakthrough from the 1st Tank Army, for example.

                        Yes, yes, yes ... One, apparently, a broken tank, but somehow they are in no hurry to present everything else.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        But they can afford them. They also gathered up the streets.

                        That is, their "modern tactics" is just throwing corpses. So I already wrote about it.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        You know. I got bored with you. You have nothing against the given facts.

                        Simply put, it is impossible to powder the brains with primitive lies.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Serdyukov's brigades are being replaced by the good old divisions

                        It didn’t start yesterday, but as for Serdyukov, that’s how I served in the 90s and I can say that everything that can be ruined before him. And these unfortunate divisions, about which they love to shout so much, then were only on paper, but in fact, it’s good if you could put up a battalion.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        It follows from this that in future wars, the RF Armed Forces must "crush" the enemy with artillery and aircraft.

                        Quote: Alexey G
                        And as a conclusion to the road: if the country's leadership believed that everything is according to plan and we win with skill, the reform of the army would not be needed! You can hang noodles on Carl's wife! I won't get out! hi

                        That is, they will develop the tactics that are being used now - no mass attacks in the spirit of the Second World War, only the slow grinding of the enemy with fire.
                        Do you even read what you write?
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        years with an army in which all of Europe fought, and not with the Armed Forces of Ukraine! And most importantly, then we occupied half of this very Europe Karl!

                        Putting a lot of people. We don’t remember how they themselves provided data on losses?
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        We had super-lucrative contracts with the Germans, not like with the Chinese, and we cannot supply the Germans, since we did not resolve the conflict on the ruin. Now, if we can win, then sooner or later the Americans will take their hands off the neck of the Germans ...

                        Seriously? Also say that the Germans really care about Ukraine. Germany is an occupied country with a colonial administration.
                      10. -1
                        26 February 2023 22: 56
                        Yes, yes, yes ... One, apparently, a broken tank, but somehow they are in no hurry to present everything else.

                        Well, look at the photo of abandoned equipment, there are a lot of them in the open network!
                        That is, their "modern tactics" is just throwing corpses. So I already wrote about it.

                        Their tactics led to the loss of Kherson by us! Are you short? Remember Krasny Liman or Raisins? Well, or will you also begin to say that this is just a regrouping ??? What is there nothing to say about this, except for throwing corpses? so I already write a lot about this to you, but what is uncomfortable for you to listen to ?? You are repeating the same thing. The plate is stuck!
                        primitive lies.

                        Which of the above is a lie? Well, what? Maybe the USSR won the Second World War?? Are you by any chance Rezun?
                        It didn’t start yesterday, but as for Serdyukov, that’s how I served in the 90s and I can say that everything that can be ruined before him. And these unfortunate divisions, about which they love to shout so much, then were only on paper, but in fact, it’s good if you could put up a battalion.

                        And what does this have to do with it? Get away from the point. The bottom line is that small units and a small army did not justify themselves, so the leadership raised the issue of replacing brigades with divisions and, for a start, they form 10 new divisions, where the number will be 3 times higher than in brigades!
                        You know how to count. Do you know how many people are in the brigade and how many are in the division?? Well, can you lie to me about this? Mister liar!

                        That is, they will develop the tactics that are being used now - no mass attacks in the spirit of the Second World War, only the slow grinding of the enemy with fire.
                        Do you even read what you write?

                        You can't read, but you can't think either. 10 new divisions to be supported by artillery and air divisions! Here all three points speak of mass character, of enlargement. We are creating air divisions to support our armies.
                        That is, an army consisting of divisions is advancing and is covered separately by an air division from attack aviation. I wrote to you about this. It is not necessary to achieve advantages only in people, you can achieve three times in aircraft and art, and in people 2 times, for example.
                        But this does not in any way confirm the argument of the author of the article and yours about strikes in groups of 10 Karl !!! A division on the ground and in the air is not 10 infantrymen on the grass! Such power will be able to break through the front and surround large units. You amaze me with your blatant stupidity!
                        Putting a lot of people. We don’t remember how they themselves provided data on losses?

                        Do not falsify the history of the Great Patriotic War! Your nose is not mature enough to judge what you are not versed in. The whole world remembers the heroism, courage and skill of Soviet soldiers. Stop writing here like Rezun and his henchmen.
                        Seriously? Also say that the Germans really care about Ukraine.

                        Yes, they are occupied and the liberation of Ukraine can lead to the liberation of Germany and the Germans, many of whom are bringing flowers to our tank today!
                      11. 0
                        26 February 2023 23: 12
                        Once again carefully: bomber aviation regiments, one fighter regiment, as well as six army aviation brigades;
                        five divisions of the marine corps will be formed on the basis of the existing marine brigades;
                        two new air assault divisions will appear in the Airborne Forces;
                        five new artillery divisions of military districts and high-capacity artillery brigades will appear in strategic axes;
                        three new motorized rifle divisions will appear as part of combined arms formations in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions;
                        an army corps will be formed in Karelia;
                        combined arms and tank armies will receive mixed air divisions and army aviation brigades, each of which will have 80-100 helicopters.
                      12. -1
                        27 February 2023 06: 49
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Well, look at the photo of abandoned equipment, there are a lot of them in the open network!
                        But in most cases it turned out that the equipment was Ukrainian.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Their tactics led to the loss of Kherson by us!
                        The question is how long will it be kept. Our tactics lead to the destruction of their army, and without an army nothing can be held.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Which of the above is a lie?
                        Mantras that everything is bad, that they are fighting wrong and other nonsense.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        And what does it have to do with it?
                        Under Serdyukov, about whom you yourself spoke.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        10 new divisions to be supported by artillery and air divisions!
                        Really?
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        There are only three motorized rifle (that is, infantry) divisions, and not a single tank division. Instead, five artillery divisions, eight bomber aviation regiments, six army aviation brigades, and an unknown number of high-capacity artillery brigades will be formed. It follows from this that in future wars the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation should "crush" the enemy with artillery and aircraft..
                        Read what you copy yourself so that you don’t have to disgrace yourself.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        But this does not in any way confirm the argument of the author of the article and yours about strikes in groups of 10 Karl !!!
                        And what about our brigades and 10 people each? It doesn't matter if there are divisions or not, but the tactics of assault groups will not change from this, at least until new types of weapons appear.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Do not falsify the history of the Great Patriotic War! Your nose is not mature enough to judge what you are not versed in. The whole world remembers the heroism, courage and skill of Soviet soldiers. Stop writing here like Rezun and his henchmen.

                        Very touching, but you yourself compared the losses - 2,5 times more with us.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        five divisions of the marine corps will be formed on the basis of the existing marine brigades;
                        two new air assault divisions will appear in the Airborne Forces
                        The basis of the army has always been not elite troops, but ordinary infantry or motorized infantry. But it is not drastically increased.
                      13. -1
                        27 February 2023 11: 33
                        Mantras that everything is bad, that they are fighting wrong and other nonsense.

                        I did not issue such mantras. It is the author of the article who writes about them, so much so that you want to cry. There, at the sight of a panel with curtained windows, our infantry becomes shy. And on the contrary, I need to cheer up and increase the army.
                        Under Serdyukov, about whom you yourself spoke.

                        Serdyukov completed the collapse of a large army and officially transferred everyone to brigades. His concept proved to be weak with the army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This is essentially recognized by our MO. I don't know what can make you angry!?
                        It follows from this that in future wars, the RF Armed Forces must "crush" the enemy with artillery and aircraft.

                        Pushing and pushing are not exactly the same thing. The author of the article I cited means to suppress under pressure. But the divisions are coming. Yes, 3 motorized rifles, and all of them will not be on the moon and not in the Far East, but in Ukraine, because there is a serious enemy there. And another 7 divisions are the Marine Corps (5) and the Airborne Forces (2). And then 3+5+2=10 Can we count? These divisions will be supported by air divisions and artillery divisions and brigades. You read the reform yourself. "Connoisseur".
                        It doesn't matter if there are divisions or not, but the tactics of assault groups will not change from this, at least until new types of weapons appear.

                        Yes, what are you saying? We create divisions to attack 10 people !!!?
                        Then they would have made 30 new brigades. The division has its own structure, its own management and tasks! Don't make chickens laugh! The Marine Corps is a strike unit, like the Airborne Forces. They proved to be better than ordinary infantry in the NWO. That is why they are being enlarged. And the rest of the infantry will cover their flanks and keep the defense in secondary areas.
                        The basis of the army has always been not elite troops, but ordinary infantry or motorized infantry. But it is not drastically increased.

                        Conventional infantry used to play the role of the base. According to the new reform, these are the Marine Corps and the Airborne Forces. If they are enlarged, then they will be the basis now. And more precisely, the shock base! And the special forces will be the elite. For there are always few elites, these are piece fighters. And since we are making divisions, this is not a piece goods.
                        You yourself compared losses - 2,5 times more with us.

                        2.5 is the allowable loss when breaking through a powerful defense. But for the enemy, this resulted in the loss of all southern territories!
                        Are you good at thinking strategically? Or is your limit of 10 people, that is, the squad leader? Do you know what the Germans mined in Krivoy Rog? And how did it end for their tank troops?
                      14. -3
                        27 February 2023 12: 27
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        I did not issue such mantras. It is the author of the article who writes about them, so much so that you want to cry.
                        The author of the article explains how they fight and why. And the mantras about wrongness are already yours.

                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Serdyukov completed the collapse of a large army and officially transferred everyone to brigades.

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        As for Serdyukov, this is how I served in the 90s and I can say that everything that can be ruined before him. And these unfortunate divisions, about which they love to shout so much, then were only on paper, but in fact, it’s good if you could put up a battalion

                        Quote: Alexey G
                        The author of the article I cited means to suppress under pressure. But the divisions are coming.
                        Well, where does he write about offensives by divisions?
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        The Marine Corps is a strike unit, like the Airborne Forces. They proved to be better than ordinary infantry in the NWO.
                        Well, tell me where are they advancing with entire regiments / divisions / brigades at once? They have the same small group tactics.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        According to the new reform, these are the Marine Corps and the Airborne Forces.
                        And where does it say that they will be the basis? They have their own tasks, the same MP is designed to defend the coast. This is not to mention the fact that the Airborne Forces and the MP are armed worse than motorized riflemen
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        2.5 is the allowable loss when breaking through a powerful defense. But for the enemy, this resulted in the loss of all southern territories!

                        Simply put, we throw corpses, and the women still give birth. Somewhere I already heard it. Thank you, but it's better if the enemy loses an order of magnitude more people.
                      15. 0
                        28 February 2023 00: 11
                        Well, tell me where are they advancing with entire regiments / divisions / brigades at once? They have the same small group tactics.

                        The Marine Corps is fighting as best it can due to the fact that now there are few of them. Our marines still have brigades.
                        And where does it say that they will be the basis? They have their own tasks, the same MP is designed to defend the coast. This is not to mention the fact that the Airborne Forces and the MP are armed worse than motorized riflemen

                        Here it is said:
                        five Marine brigades will be deployed (or rebuilt) to divisions. Moreover, this process will affect all military districts. This point is most interesting in relation to the marines. The landing capabilities of the Russian Navy are extremely insignificant, they are several times smaller than those of the US Navy (“Amphibious Problem of the Russian Navy”, “NVO”, 22.03.19/XNUMX/XNUMX). At the same time, the US Navy has only four divisions of the Marine Corps, one of which is considered a reserve. Thus, the Russian marines may be larger than the US in terms of personnel - with a very small number of landing ships, moreover, scattered across five separate maritime and ocean theaters of operations and having a fairly low landing capacity.

                        However, the US Marine Corps has long been almost completely separated from the Navy. It has not conducted any amphibious assaults since the Korean War and, in fact, has become a "second ground force", with a smaller number but a higher level of combat training than the ground forces themselves.

                        In this regard, the Russian marines, obviously, will completely copy the American, also becoming the "second ground forces", smaller in size, but better trained than the "first". The difference from the American version will apparently consist in the fact that the Russian marines will also be entrusted with the tasks of coastal defense.
                      16. 0
                        28 February 2023 10: 28
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Our marines still have brigades.

                        And what does religion not allow to attack with the whole brigade? Or common sense?
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        The difference from the American version will apparently consist in the fact that the Russian marines will also be entrusted with the tasks of coastal defense.
                        And now we are looking at how many coasts we have that need to be protected. This is what they will be doing.
                      17. 0
                        28 February 2023 19: 18
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        And what does religion not allow to attack with the whole brigade? Or common sense?

                        Worse is the law. There is no official war - no mobilization and permission to send conscripts to the front. So we have to pick out raisins from a roll, forming consolidated groups from among the brigades from among those who can fight in operations of the NWO format, and propping them up with a cropped rear.
                      18. 0
                        1 March 2023 09: 53
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        Worse is the law. There is no official war - no mobilization and permission to send conscripts to the front.

                        And what is there without conscripts for a division, or at least a regiment of people cannot be recruited?
                      19. +1
                        1 March 2023 10: 24
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        And what is there without conscripts for a division, or at least a regiment of people cannot be recruited?

                        People can be recruited. The problem is that this will not be a brigade - these people will have at least six months of exercises before the brigade. And this is if it is possible to fill the OShS with exactly those specialists that are registered in it - and not just fill positions with suitable ranks (then a year may not be enough).

                        But there was a chance ... but no, the economy must be economical. They offered some 15 years ago, fully contracted brigades of full combat readiness - no, they drowned the reform under the pretext too expensive, let's save.
                      20. 0
                        28 February 2023 21: 20
                        And what does religion not allow to attack with the whole brigade? Or common sense?

                        The length of the front does not allow! And the lack of dominance in the sky.
                        And now we are looking at how many coasts we have that need to be protected. This is what they will be doing.

                        We have as many shores as there were and those who were involved in them. And now they are being tripled for some reason! You are already arguing for the sake of arguing.
                        You better tell us how we can help Pridnestrovie without large connections in small groups ??
                      21. 0
                        1 March 2023 09: 58
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        The length of the front does not allow! And the lack of dominance in the sky.
                        So you demanded to attack in divisions.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        We have as many shores as there were and those who were involved in them. And now they are being tripled for some reason!
                        maybe because the same Japan began to saber-rattling very actively? Or because our northern neighbors, who were already very conditionally neutral, also began to move too actively.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        You better tell us how we can help Pridnestrovie without large connections in small groups?

                        Quote: Dart2027


                        Simply put, we throw corpses, and the women still give birth. Somewhere I already heard it.
                      22. 0
                        2 March 2023 00: 45
                        Or because our northern neighbors, who were already very conditionally neutral, also began to move too actively.

                        A separate Karelian corps with its divisions is being created against our northern neighbors.
                        So you demanded to attack in divisions.

                        If there are divisions, then even now I demand, but not through the consolidation of existing forces, but through the creation of additional ones to those already available!
                      23. 0
                        2 March 2023 14: 37
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        separate Karelian corps with its divisions

                        That is, the creation of a MP division is not planned in the Baltic? Strange. But it’s interesting with the corps - will these be new divisions or will they simply transfer existing ones there?
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        If there are divisions, then even now I demand

                        They still exist, but no one will drive them to slaughter.
                      24. +1
                        4 March 2023 02: 16
                        .
                        They still exist, but no one will drive them to slaughter

                        They are few in number! Count how many divisions are there now ??
                      25. 0
                        4 March 2023 12: 22
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Count how many divisions are there now ??

                        Well, what prevents them from advancing in their area of ​​​​responsibility?
                      26. 0
                        8 March 2023 01: 45
                        Well, what prevents them from advancing in their area of ​​​​responsibility?

                        Their small number on the length of the front interferes! If all the brigades in the division are transferred, then nothing will interfere!
                      27. +2
                        28 February 2023 19: 16
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Yes, what are you saying? We create divisions to attack 10 people !!!?
                        Then they would have made 30 new brigades.

                        We create divisions, so that later we can assemble at least a brigade group from them.
                        Serdyukov's contract and fully equipped brigades were just conceived in order to fight as a whole. And not to pick out all the combat-ready units from the division, reducing them to a tactical group. But, as always, the idea was killed by creative execution - first, in the brigades, contract soldiers were diluted with conscripts, and then part of the units were framed. And they received a mini-version of the pre-Serdyukov divisions, unable to fight in full force without mobilization and a declaration of war.
                        Quote: Alexey G
                        Serdyukov completed the collapse of a large army and officially transferred everyone to brigades. His concept proved to be weak with the army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

                        And where did you see at least one brigade of the Serdyukov concept? There are none.
                        Those brigades that are in the troops have nothing to do with the Makarov-Serdyukov concept except for the name.
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  38. 0
    23 February 2023 03: 17
    it’s better not to discuss the BARS system at all, PMCs are really good attack aircraft, Girkin, delving into history, compared them with the Dead Head, whose divisions had losses far exceeding the average for the Wehrmacht and the SS, but they basically completed the assigned tasks. How is it possible to introduce such a criterion when, for example, they say to a flyer - take your platoon - and keep that hillock over there, he reports - they are hammering at us from all calibers, and in response to him - no matter what happens, leave the battalion in tanks will enter the rear and turn into a mess, who will be to blame for the flyer or the one who gave the order to hold on to the hillock?
  39. -1
    23 February 2023 08: 17
    Quote: Alexey G
    To be honest, reading the author's article, there is a clear understanding of why the Americans dragged us into this conflict! Why did they leave Afghanistan for this.
    The "gray zone", as a rule, consisting either of a burnt forest belt, pitted with abandoned trenches and trenches, and craters from shells, with a lot of stumps sticking out of the ground and fragments of burnt trees broken by explosions, or destroyed residential buildings, piles of bricks, the remains of lined equipment and civil vehicles, concrete poles, bits of asphalt, metal transmission towers, pits and cellars.
    In general, an extremely impassable terrain, as a rule, mined with all kinds of mines that mankind has only come up with: from anti-tank to manually installed PFMok, banal tripwires, and also sprinkled with petals from containers that sometimes lie for months, and sometimes spontaneously explode one at a time. Add to this also unexploded mines from mortars, including 120 caliber

    Reading these lines brings tears to my eyes...
    From fear, the scrotum in shorts shrinks and I want to give up !!!
    If Zhukov at the meeting would have reported to Stalin like this and concluded: "using a large unit" is not possible and will lead to losses !!!
    How do you, dear members of the forum, think that Stalin would respond to Zhukov? And what if comrade Rokosovsky had been fiddling with Bakhmut for several weeks or months?
    And he would explain that he cannot destroy the enemy because "
    the entire Donbass is a continuous agglomeration. Multi-storey urban development develops into urban settlements, garden plots, towns, villages and industrial facilities such as factories, mines and railway stations are located around them.
    и
    And all this, taking into account the hills and lowlands, and rivers with swampy floodplains. It turns out that, bypassing one object, the advancing group approaches another and, being in an open area, inevitably comes under fire from two sides - since it comes between two defense nodes.


    I'm afraid the marshals would not have commanded the parade at 45m ...
    And how annoying to read about the storming of a five-story building !!! After all, our invincible was stopped not by something in the style of concrete pillboxes with armored doors, but by an indestructible panel that can be shot, but it will hold on and will not let us pass ... After all, this is a panel in which the windows are hung with rags !!!
    the windows are hung with burlap or scraps of cloth and cellophane, or barricades of furniture.
    that's where the power is!!!
    And there - you never know what is prepared. The enemy could break through the walls between the entrances, could make holes in the walls in the apartments and cover them with cabinets

    Yes author! And there, behind the sofa, the babayka will jump out! And we have only 10 people and one tank! And now the tankers will do their best and the infantry will rush back!
    After all, the basis of your or now our infantry tactics should be
    endless waste in case of enemy strikes with artillery or mortars.
    !!!
    I ran up, ran away, and this is how our NWO goes. And if you lost more than 10 percent of the infantry, then a mustache!
    official investigation on the justification of the losses.

    And that's what the Americans turned out to be right!
    They realized that our army was no longer a sledgehammer that broke through the defenses of the Wehrmacht with ISs, but how do you write a can opener to cut through a can of canned food! And therefore, they cannot break through the Ukrainian-NATO defense in landings and five-story buildings, and most importantly, there are 300 thousand Russian people in the army, and therefore they cannot lose more than 10 percent at the level of liberalism! There will be no one to fight! Therefore, 10 people, hiding from artillery and teplaks, as well as UAVs and Musk’s satellites, quietly crawl towards the five-story building! After all
    Sometimes the route depends on a hawthorn bush or a concrete pillar lying on the ground.
    good
    That's why our infantry hides in the bushes and clings to the land! Shame and shame.
    Instead, we need to tear the UAV from the sky, mobilize more people into the infantry. Create more vehicles and art. And strike with it where the flanks are weaker and the terrain is smoother!
    And if we are afraid of artillery, mines, terrible five-story buildings and losses, we will not win the war!
    And this tactic will not lead to victory in the war!

    Presumably you are at the front and they still won’t send you to break through the defenses with your chest, but you are all torn-torn-?
  40. -2
    23 February 2023 08: 28
    Quote: Batting
    Good article, smart and realistic. In the conditions of hostilities on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR, any other approach to solving tactical problems will lead to huge losses of PEOPLE, of which there are not many left on the planet. On the island of Russia, including. This is what the notorious "collective West" is counting on. The current situation that has developed around the Russian people and the multinational, multi-confessional Russian World, the collapse of the USSR, the troubles and lawlessness of trading on our land are precisely explained by the HUGE LOSSES OF REAL PEOPLE during the Great Patriotic War. In the mortal battle with Western collective fascism, the best died: the most devoted and decent communists and Komsomol members who rose at the call "Communists - forward!", The best hard workers and promising students, the best representatives of the humanitarian and technical intelligentsia, just decent citizens of the country, patriots of their Fatherland .
    Who was brought up by the humanoid dandruff that survived at any cost in the post-war years, with the help of the Jesuit West and at the expense of the heroic work of the surviving PEOPLE? Humanoids, those who, contrary to common sense and the commandments of Christ, are considered the "elite" of the Russian state.
    Therefore, PEOPLE in NWO must be protected. The best way for this is the will of the country's leadership to suppress the intelligence support of the fascist coves from the United States and NATO. Let them bring iron and meat, sooner or later both expensive iron and cheap meat will run out. And even paper dollars. But with satellite and aerial reconnaissance and target designation, something needs to be decided, without this decision the victory will be Pyrrhic.

    There are real proposals, is it necessary to solve something? Is it boltology? Are the consequences of the decision calculated?
  41. -1
    23 February 2023 08: 39
    Quote from moneron
    the opinion of a purely civilian jacket with a technical bias.
    let's not gouge out reconnaissance eyes in space and over the battlefield ..... we will get a hundred-year war.

    Does the military jacket represent the consequences of being stabbed out or does he think that he will always receive a military pension and will not touch him?
  42. -1
    23 February 2023 09: 04
    Quote: Aleksandr7987
    Good day to all. I am writing about the transformation of five-story buildings into those very ruins ... Back in 2000, in February-March, I happened to take part in the blocking of the Argun Gorge in military service. The village, on the outskirts of which we stood up with "Rapiers" and "Storms" was called, like, Varanda ... We fired at these very mountains (hills) - the mouth of this gorge from everything that was (we, tanks, howitzers, mortars, etc. and so on ...) for about two weeks, but there was no sense, the militants were still hiding in large forces somewhere there, on the slopes (hills) of these gates in the gorge ... The Pinocchio ubergun, secret at that time, arrived (us they didn’t let her in to look at 40 meters), and a lot of time passed, so I don’t remember how many units arrived there, one, or more ... This Pinocchio for the day of shooting at these hills (the shells could even be seen in flight, like fly) - a mini nuclear explosion as a result, it looked very impressive, all the tops of these hills were broken, so much so that literally the next day I personally (through the decision maker) observed our fighters who came without a fight to the tops of these hills ... This is the story of times , personally from me. Story two: my friend, also participated in the "Rapiers" in December 1999-January 2000. in the assault on Grozny. The rapiers hit the identified firing points in the windows of apartments in multi-storey buildings ... So. A colleague specifically saw how six-entrance five-story buildings turned into one and a half-story rubble-ruins after three hits of something large-caliber. As the officers told the guys, this is the work of the Tyulpan uberminer ... And now, without stories, here is my question on this article, with absolute respect for the author, because he himself is an attack aircraft and he himself survived it all ... Yes, as much as our soldiers can apply battle schemes with an unclear result for your survival, without a clue, but will this tactical maneuver succeed? I’m not trying to be clever, but I’m trying to understand - WHY CAPTURE ANOTHER FIVE-STORY BUILDING WITH LOSSES IN PERSONNEL, when this five-story building (yes, no matter the number of floors) can be DEMANDED TO THE STATE OF "LUONIC LANDSCAPE" and it will not be necessary to TAKE THIS HEIGHT, losing our soldiers ... Mirnyak , on the line of contact of troops, in apartments it definitely cannot be. So you can safely drop these dwellings, which during the war turned into pillboxes ...

    It’s easy to hit a five-story building from a rapier, tank or tulip when the enemy has AK and RPG and basically everything, but when this tulip itself is the primary target, it’s completely different, you forget that the enemy is not Papuans with AK, by the way, there is a moment with five-story buildings, your colleague saw panel or brick?
    1. 0
      25 February 2023 20: 02
      Good day. In my commentary on the article, I did not have in mind the types of weapons I specifically mentioned. As specifically those who are present and working on the Ukrainian front ... After all, the fact is that our army of such developments has a "carriage and a small cart" ... In the commentary, I was interested in those who are knowledgeable in these matters ... How is this possible, what are the possibilities there is (as in the famous movie "DMB" - "We will definitely bang. And more than once. The whole world is in ruins. But then" ...), and we we don’t see, unfortunately ... But we just need to demolish everything that hinders the further advance of the troops remotely, without assault with the death of our soldiers, and move on (IMHO) ... After all, the enemy does not neglect any methods and opportunities for his advancement and victory over us ... Unfortunately, I can’t say anything about the material from which the five-story buildings in Grozny were built, since it wasn’t my division that worked there and the info about the Tyulpan ubermortar came to me during a random intersection with mate of neighbor he had an artillery regiment that was there and, in principle, there was no point in lying to him ...
  43. +4
    23 February 2023 09: 31
    The fighting took all day, and the next day it was decided to adjust the plan to take into account the absence of a tank in the brigade now.

    Was the tank the last in the NWO? And what cheburek sent him to shoot direct fire under ATGMs?
    It seems that each unit or unit operates separately, without overall coordination of actions at the level of division, corps, and so on.
  44. -3
    23 February 2023 12: 15
    Yes, there is a key, and for such URs, gas shells of rockets, the same bombs of the HAB series, to fill them with bait or sarin, grunts will grab gas masks and die in them)) but as for humanism, then there was nothing to start if they were going to use it with little blood and washed themselves
  45. 0
    23 February 2023 12: 27
    An excellent article, sensitively systematize and boldly make a training manual for the infantry in the traffic police, everything is clear and understandable.
    1. -1
      23 February 2023 21: 15
      "and feel free to make a training manual for the infantry"
      God forbid this!
  46. +3
    23 February 2023 12: 41
    Quote: Konnick
    but one bridge builder designer told me this, about the fact that now there is such a margin of safety

    Well, as a bridge builder, I designed and assembled bridges, and even participated in the construction of the Kerch bridge, I will say that throwing the bridge off its supports is a trifling matter, the span is just free
    lies on the supports, so the explosion from below under the reinforced concrete, and even on the side of the steel truss (usually railway bridges with orthotropic slabs covered with ballast) blows the span from the supports. And post-war bridges have special chambers for explosives in their supports ... But you don’t need to destroy bridges, they will come in handy, I wrote about actions on the roads and the destruction of headquarters by bearing communications, when any vehicle is knocked out on the roads. But we do not have air supremacy, as during Operation Bagration, where 6000 of our aircraft were opposed by only 60 German fighters and where air strikes were delivered not on the front line, saturated with anti-aircraft artillery, incurring heavy losses earlier, artillery worked on it, but bombers from a great height along the railway nodes, and attack aircraft and even fighters operated along the roads. Thus paralyzing the movement of German troops, and communications and supplies. In general, Operation Bagration is a victory for our aviation, which Stalin gathered from several fronts, even the aviation of the Karelian Front covered the rear of our troops during the offensive. Such a kind of repetition of June 41st, just the other way around. If you look at the photos of those events, you can see the broken equipment on the roads, but not at all on the German defensive lines, especially since the Germans organized artillery defense there with long-range guns, which were dealt with by the same Il-2 attack aircraft, which, finally, did not work on the front edge of the enemy, buried in the ground and covered by 20mm anti-aircraft guns, and in the process of patrolling behind the front edge, artillery batteries were destroyed. And for the first time, our fighters used the German tactics of free hunting, in addition to destroying German aircraft, they even chased individual cars and attacked locomotives. And the bridges were preserved for the rapid movement of our troops. Such a total air terror turned out. And the arrows of the commanders on the maps and the tactics of the assault were not so important in this, the most brilliant operation of the Soviet Army. Happy February 23, the day of the SOVIET ARMY!

    Happy holiday. The bearing of headquarters by means of communication was already difficult in the 80s, a matching antenna device can be used even in km. to put from the headquarters, and not one, but you can lay a cable before it, but now I don’t know how the Armed Forces of Ukraine are, but if I were a Motorol designer, I would have provided for the transmission of a weak signal to it, or via Wi-Fi, go detect weak impulse signal. If everything is in the mind, then I would instruct the deception, don’t worry, but here it’s already necessary not only to detect, but also to figure out where the headquarters can be nearby, satellites and drones are needed here.
    1. +2
      25 February 2023 11: 00
      Well, yes, another strategist with operational thinking, I don’t even want to comment on this nonsense that only aviation won the Bagration operation. and sorrow of analysts
  47. +2
    23 February 2023 12: 48
    Quote from Mazunga
    Yes, there is a key, and for such URs, gas shells of rockets, the same bombs of the HAB series, to fill them with bait or sarin, grunts will grab gas masks and die in them)) but as for humanism, then there was nothing to start if they were going to use it with little blood and washed themselves

    Are you TsIPSo a provocateur or just? in general, your message calls for a war crime, even the Nazis did not do this.
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  48. +1
    23 February 2023 12: 52
    Quote from Mazunga
    Yes, there is a key, and for such URs, gas shells of rockets, the same bombs of the HAB series, to fill them with bait or sarin, grunts will grab gas masks and die in them)) but as for humanism, then there was nothing to start if they were going to use it with little blood and washed themselves

    In general, you have a great opportunity to go and break the grunt like a normal man. Prigogine promised to give out machine guns to everyone.
  49. -1
    23 February 2023 17: 20
    Isn't it easier to "fry" in the sun than to storm with such difficulties?
  50. +3
    23 February 2023 18: 36
    All to the point. But a question arises. Why don't we fight like this on the defensive? And without a fight they surrendered Kherson and a bunch of other settlements. So the command of the Ukrainians is better than ours. Only such a conclusion suggests itself.
    1. +1
      23 February 2023 19: 42
      If you believe the publication on the Internet that the Wagnerites were supplied in February, like the rest of the army, then even the current state of affairs is a miracle. An official from the Ministry of Defense reported that in February the Wagnerites were given only 10 shells. those. about one shell per barrel per day! Even the tsar in 1915, during the great drape from Poland, gave his gunners three shells per barrel per day!
  51. -2
    23 February 2023 19: 24
    He started off so well, but slipped into a purely bureaucratic task: to come up with objective criteria for the actions of troops. So as not to get into the trenches yourself, not to understand anything, but from the heights of the Moscow office to judge and pardon unmistakably.
    .
    In fact, success and failure depend on the balance of forces. If recently a Moscow official proudly reported that in January he gave the Wagnerites one shell per barrel per day and this is a lot, in his opinion, because it corresponds to the level of supply of units of the Russian army, then what estimates can we talk about? Our only advantage: the possibility of quickly transporting everything your heart desires to the front is leveled out by such officials. They, as if on purpose, supply the same number of shells as the Americans deliver them to the Ukrainians.
    Therefore, there is no need to analyze tactics today. First analyze the balance of forces and ammunition, drones, etc. Tactics are chosen based on this ratio, and not on the preferences of the official in Moscow.
    .
    Well, for fun, my old article:
    https://dzen.ru/media/id/5e05b001fe289100b0f15ec4/vozmojnosti-nashei-taktiki-na-ukraine-6353b8084abf2400ff674439
    If you look at the articles on my channel and get to my comments, you will see that in March I proposed to buy 40 quadcopters from the Chinese, attach a grenade to each and use them like kamikazes. In April May - do not attack with Kalash, but destroy enemies from afar with KPVT. In June, attach its own artillery battery to each company to reduce reaction time to identified targets. Those. tactics have always depended on the balance of forces.
  52. 0
    23 February 2023 19: 52
    Lord, another pioneer talks about the war and new tactics. always, in any war, any offensive began with artillery barrage, both across areas, and at individual firing points, and along delivery lines. what has changed now? Why is our artillery so afraid of counter-battery combat? Does she have nothing to answer? where did the front line aviation go? afraid of air defense? let her destroy it herself, that’s what she’s designed for. The strategy (or tactics) for using tanks is very interesting.
    “The number of armored vehicles in general and especially the number of armored vehicles is the key to success. If you send more tanks to attack, then there is a higher probability of breaking through the enemy’s defenses.”
    very smart idea, I would never have thought of that. The more tanks, the faster we defeat the enemy, he will knock them out, and he will run out of shells. and it’s very interesting about the plains of Donbass when they try to call them a very rugged terrain. I drove there more than once, at one time - steppe and steppe all around, and here and there waste heaps.
    "The new plan looked like this.
    Three infantry fighting vehicles without troops jump out to the opening line of fire and open fire on the five-story building and the school with automatic cannons. While the enemy runs away in horror or ceases fire"
    Why can’t you demolish this five-story building with a large caliber from closed positions, but you definitely need to bang the BMP guns at point-blank range? counter-battery warfare? Don't ours have this? We can’t attack aircraft and helicopters either, the enemy has stingers. Well, let's drop everything and surrender - tanks cannot be used - anti-tank missiles, aviation cannot - man-portable missiles, the infantry cannot cope on its own - what can we do, just surrender. Well, you can use new tactics with mtlb, I read it today, if anyone is interested, it will find it. This is generally the bottom. You can roughly imagine the level of command and control of troops, from squad to battalion - kindergarten, pants with straps. and these people are trying to run the tram. Marinka still hasn't been taken. and they won’t take it anytime soon
    1. 0
      24 February 2023 17: 26
      Why can’t you demolish this five-story building with a large caliber from closed positions, but you definitely need to bang the BMP guns at point-blank range?

      Because they fight in separate “partisan detachments”, and not in large formations. These detachments do not have large-caliber artillery, support aviation, so partisanship... there seems to be no control at the division or corps level. They send a separate battalion to the village and wait for the results. What “smart guy” came up with these battalion tactical groups???
  53. 0
    23 February 2023 20: 05
    Such a stupid and guilty system of punishment for losses.
    This kind of crap has never happened in any army in the world. Because everyone understands perfectly well that no one is immune from large losses.
    And such punishments will only lead to the army being left without experienced commanders.
    And how will the person responsible be chosen?
    Let's say the division commander ordered some battalion a very difficult task that cannot be completed without heavy losses.
    The battalion commander completed the task, suffering heavy losses.
    And who is to blame in this case according to the author’s logic?
    The division commander, if we count the number of the entire division, has minimal losses.
    And the battalion commander’s are huge.
    That is, the battalion commander is bad, but the division commander is good?
  54. +5
    23 February 2023 22: 54
    Quote: Titsen
    This information should not be in the public domain - the enemy can read Russian and they should not be considered fools!

    Tell me honestly - do you treat your opponents as clinical idiots who themselves don’t know how to storm their positions?
  55. 0
    25 February 2023 20: 48
    Quote: also a doctor
    He started off so well, but slipped into a purely bureaucratic task: to come up with objective criteria for the actions of troops. So as not to get into the trenches yourself, not to understand anything, but from the heights of the Moscow office to judge and pardon unmistakably.
    .
    In fact, success and failure depend on the balance of forces. If recently a Moscow official proudly reported that in January he gave the Wagnerites one shell per barrel per day and this is a lot, in his opinion, because it corresponds to the level of supply of units of the Russian army, then what estimates can we talk about? Our only advantage: the possibility of quickly transporting everything your heart desires to the front is leveled out by such officials. They, as if on purpose, supply the same number of shells as the Americans deliver them to the Ukrainians.
    Therefore, there is no need to analyze tactics today. First analyze the balance of forces and ammunition, drones, etc. Tactics are chosen based on this ratio, and not on the preferences of the official in Moscow.
    .
    Well, for fun, my old article:
    https://dzen.ru/media/id/5e05b001fe289100b0f15ec4/vozmojnosti-nashei-taktiki-na-ukraine-6353b8084abf2400ff674439
    If you look at the articles on my channel and get to my comments, you will see that in March I proposed to buy 40 quadcopters from the Chinese, attach a grenade to each and use them like kamikazes. In April May - do not attack with Kalash, but destroy enemies from afar with KPVT. In June, attach its own artillery battery to each company to reduce reaction time to identified targets. Those. tactics have always depended on the balance of forces.

    One must assume that the enemy will sit and watch while they hit him with KPVT guns? Or is everyone so stupid that they didn’t think of using KPVT? And how will a battery attached to a company work during exercises? All this was described long ago by L. Tolstoy - it was smooth on paper, but they forgot about the ravines -...
  56. -1
    25 February 2023 21: 12
    Quote: Dart2027
    Quote: Alexey G
    Only now, according to the results, all this turned out to be an exaggeration, to put it mildly!
    Yes how to say. Only the deaf have not heard about the deindustrialization of Europe.
    Quote: Alexey G
    Well, maybe they grab on the streets, so what? But we don’t have enough, but we have the upper Lars!


    Quote: Alexey G
    Of course have. Their attacks with forces up to a company or a little more during the winter led to losses, since they cannot strike with a big fist without aviation, and small groups led to the expenditure of forces without the proper result!

    That is, the chosen tactics allow you to suffer losses many times less than that of the enemy, but this is bad. Original.

    Who told you about many times less, in urban battles losses are 1:1, the norm is usually higher for the attackers.
    About being dragged from the streets - just look not at TV but at TikTok or YouTube and see that on both sides of the front the situation is approximately the same, they are dragged both here and there, it’s just that in the Russian Federation mobilization is on pause, and opponents decided to create the maximum possible reserve.
    1. -1
      26 February 2023 12: 02
      Quote from Tim666
      It’s enough to look not at TV but at TikTok or YouTube and see that on both sides of the front the situation is approximately the same, they drag here and there, it’s just that mobilization is on pause in the Russian Federation

      So are they dragging along or are they on pause?
  57. +1
    25 February 2023 21: 17
    Quote: aglet
    "the tank of the brigade rolls out for direct fire and shoots the ammo at the school and the last five-story building"
    it is 3 km. in principle, the enemy can get something, or maybe not get it. BC of the tank - 40 shells, enough to ruin two houses in the dust for two times. but the place, from 5-6-10 km with correction, will ruin these houses even faster and completely safe for personnel. why else shoot from an infantry fighting vehicle, with their ridiculous calibers?

    Msta itself is a desirable goal, smoke how quickly the response usually arrives, this is not the Berlin operation when, according to the recollections of the Germans, the Soviet batteries stood almost without disguise because the Germans had practically nothing to respond with.
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  59. 0
    26 February 2023 15: 03
    It's time to remember about camouflaging the actions of troops. There is a strategic level, operational, tactical. In 1989, the position of deputy front commander for camouflaging the actions of troops was introduced in the SA, as was the decision to create brigades of heavy flamethrower systems under front-line subordination. The Chief of the General Staff, Army General Moiseev, spoke about this in 1989. He said this speaking to graduates of the All-Russian Academy of Arts. But you yourself know what happened to the Country and the Army. Many thanks to the author for the analysis. It is necessary to sharply increase the use of smoke and other camouflage means. For example, a tank changes its firing position and sets up a smoke screen from the diesel generator set. This should be the rule. If you put on it a stack of UDS with the ability to automatically launch and reset, as they did in Chechnya, you can already maneuver the smoke. Not everyone has thermal imagers and not always. But you can also illuminate them, for example, with the ZDP “Moon”, etc.
  60. +1
    26 February 2023 18: 30
    Respect to the author for his combat experience. Special thanks for the “lifehacks” I knew some things, but a lot of things came together in my head. The only thing I can’t agree with is the criteria for evaluating commanders. Anything can happen in war, even things that don’t happen. If everyone is judged this way, there will be no one to command. Although it makes sense to shoot some, even many, copies before the formation.
    1. 0
      April 17 2023 07: 16
      Will you personally shoot? Usually, those who sit in the rear, in a cozy or uncomfortable apartment, and angrily condemn certain military actions, like to shoot in front of the formation. The author simply licked someone’s thoughts and could not clearly describe how the offensives took place during the Second World War. So amateurish.
  61. +2
    27 February 2023 14: 04
    Some aspects of the narration regarding the actual combat episode are confusing.
    If I understand correctly, the task was to take the enemy’s position. Conventionally, ours acted as a group - a reinforced company in a battalion zone with a reinforced tank, something like that. Questions.
    1. Where is the intelligence? We know that the enemy is there, but we don’t know in what strength, with what capabilities and with what intentions. And yet the decision was made to attack?
    2. The madness of the brave? At the stage of preparation for the operation, the group came under artillery fire, and the decision was made to immediately attack rather than disperse and withdraw from the danger zone. Is this the correct decision of the commander? I think no.
    3. Losses? After the defeat of the tank and the failure of the general attack, again an unknown means came from unknown source, it seems obvious that the defense unit was very strong - a school and, or a 5-story building, with no adjustments to the plan or means of reinforcement.
    4. Wall with your forehead? A repeated attack in an identical pattern and the loss of an infantry fighting vehicle (I hope the crew is alive) isn’t it stupid?
    In general, a strange course of action for the commander - a weakened battalion (by the way, how many tanks were lost and how, if memory serves the motorized rifle brigade, battalion 42 of the tank?). The best thing that could be done was defense = observation.
  62. +2
    27 February 2023 14: 15
    From what has been described, a means of demolishing these ill-fated five-story buildings (and not only) suggests itself. for example, large-caliber gliding bombs would be suitable. but there the reaction time will be long and coordination is rather weak. You can also use something like a large-caliber self-propelled mortar. like “tulip” with “daredevil”, only even more so. Let's say 305-406mm, with a mine weight of 500-1000kg. something similar is represented by the “serpent gorynych”, but this abnormal use of not quite suitable equipment is not from a good life.
  63. 0
    28 February 2023 19: 08
    That is, groups of soldiers equipped with additional armor protection and special weapons, whose purpose was to break into an enemy trench and destroy the infantry located there in hand-to-hand combat or combat at extremely short distances.

    If only someone could explain to our battalion commander that we don’t need to do this. Otherwise, he doesn’t know any other commands other than “fpered, fataku.” Less than 40 people remained from the infantry. But he still won’t calm down.
    1. 0
      April 17 2023 07: 14
      Why are you lying? What should the battalion commander say? Back, let's retreat? Where is this battalion commander? Can you name the part? Or it’s easier to lie than to tell something real.
  64. 0
    28 February 2023 20: 53
    Quote: Alexey G
    For your information:
    Donbass operation (August 13-September 22, 1943) The Red Army completely cleared the Donbass of the Nazis and began to push them beyond the Dnieper.

    That is for a month. The forces of the parties were significant: the USSR - 1,053 million people, 21 guns, 000 tanks, 1257 aircraft. Germany has 1 people, 400 guns, 540 tanks, 000 aircraft. Having lost 5400 people, the Soviet troops destroyed 900 Nazis killed, wounded, missing.
    And the liberation of Ukraine ended with the Carpathian-Uzhgorod operation (September 9-October 28, 1944). An integral part of the East Carpathian operation, during its troops liberated Transcarpathian Ukraine.
    That is, the Soviet troops liberated all of Ukraine in 1 year!

    And they lost more during this operation than the Americans did during the entire war. But the problems are recognizable; until the end of the war, Soviet communications were inferior to German and American ones. Moreover, even if there was a radio station, many commanders ignored it, preferring messengers. If the Americans received artillery support within a few minutes (I didn’t come up with this idea - Isaev), the Germans had things fly in after half an hour, but with us it was only according to plan; cases of effective interaction were rather the exception to the rule.
    1. 0
      April 17 2023 07: 12
      Dear! Did the Americans really fight? sat in the rear for almost years, and then opened a 2nd front so that the USSR would not win WW2 alone. and enough imagination to talk about Americans and Germans. Have you read Isaev carefully? What did A. Isaev come up with? You seem to have read his books but still didn’t understand anything.
    2. 0
      April 17 2023 07: 13
      How much did the Americans lose in WW2? You don’t know here either. Certainly not 273 thousand.
  65. 0
    April 17 2023 07: 09
    yeah, how there’s not enough of him at the forefront! Or in some group. There are many visionaries like the author. It’s immediately obvious... the generals are fools, the soldiers are great. How tritely familiar everything is. At least the author would teach military history.

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