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The American press called the problems of the Mi-8 helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine leading to heavy losses

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The American press called the problems of the Mi-8 helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine leading to heavy losses

During a special military operation, the crews of Mi-8 helicopters of the Ukrainian Air Force suffer heavy losses. This is reported by the American television channel CNN.


According to American correspondents, the main threat to Ukrainian helicopters is man-portable anti-aircraft missile systems of Russian units. The RF Armed Forces use them to easily shoot down Ukrainian air vehicles.

Helicopters of the Sikorsky air brigade make three sorties per day for each machine. But the brigade suffers heavy losses. Although the Ukrainian command forbids disseminating information about the exact number of losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it can be assumed that the situation with losses in helicopter units is indeed very serious.

Ukraine's losses are a state secret. But the pilots and crew of the Sikorsky Brigade lost close friends because of Russian air defense systems.

- reports CNN.

In order to protect themselves from MANPADS, Ukrainian helicopters are forced to operate at a very low altitude. Sometimes, correspondents report, they even touch trees.

Losses in helicopter divisions are also connected with the fact that helicopters of this type, used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, do not have an armored cabin and enhanced protection for the pilot. After all, at one time they were converted from transport helicopters by equipping them with launchers for missiles.

In addition, such missiles do not have complex guidance systems, so the accuracy of firing also raises questions. In fact, the effectiveness of the use of missiles depends on the luck and experience of a particular crew.

The jamming system for repelling attacks on the helicopters themselves is also very poorly developed. At one time, the Mi-8, CNN emphasizes, installed such means of protection, but they are already outdated. One of the helicopter pilots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine admits that these systems are unlikely to work even at 2%.
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  1. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 18 February 2023 12: 41
    +2
    About 30 Mi-8s were shot down, confirmed by visual evidence.
  2. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 18 February 2023 12: 44
    +10
    Helicopters of the Sikorsky Air Brigade
    Russian nationalist Igor Sikorsky would be very surprised...
    1. vovochkarzhevsky
      vovochkarzhevsky 18 February 2023 12: 52
      +4
      And at the same time, non-existent merits are attributed to him, but real ones are forgotten.
    2. svp67
      svp67 18 February 2023 12: 53
      +5
      Quote: Bolt Cutter
      Russian nationalist Igor Sikorsky would be very surprised...

      Especially his father. good
    3. RoTTor
      RoTTor 18 February 2023 16: 48
      +4
      ... and a convinced Ukrainophobe with a purely Polish surname.
      Until the end of his life, he wore a watch given to him by Nicholas II.
      They called it that because he fled to the USA, at the same time the Polytechnic Institute in Kyiv, which graduated many great scientists for our country, was named after him.
  3. KCA
    KCA 18 February 2023 12: 49
    +1
    404 has its own helicopters, MI-2, so let them fly on them, and decommunize everything MI-8, if there are still
    1. svp67
      svp67 18 February 2023 12: 58
      +9
      Quote: KCA
      404 has its own helicopters, MI-2, so let them fly on them, and decommunize everything MI-8, if there are still

      Actually, the Mi-2 was produced in Poland. And there is no need to belittle the contribution of the same Motor Sich, until now many helicopters of the Russian Aerospace Forces fly on their engines, and many others have their engines in their engines ... You can’t just “break the umbilical cord” of production and economic ties without consequences for both sides
      1. KCA
        KCA 18 February 2023 13: 23
        -1
        In fact, the Ukrainians have set up their own production of MI-2:

        The light multi-purpose helicopter MSB-2 "Nadiya" (Nadezhda) was built on the basis of one of the most honored helicopters in world history - the Mi-2. However, it differs from its prototype with a more powerful engine: instead of the traditional GTD-350 power plants, the Ukrainian helicopter is equipped with modern, more powerful AI-450M turboshaft gas turbine engines manufactured by Motor Sich.
        1. svp67
          svp67 18 February 2023 14: 29
          +5
          Quote: KCA
          In fact, the Ukrainians have set up their own production of MI-2:

          The light multi-purpose helicopter MSB-2 "Nadiya" (Nadezhda) was built on the basis of one of the most honored helicopters in world history - the Mi-2.

          Yeah ... PR and nothing more
          On December 20, 2017, one Mi-2MSB was transferred to the National Guard of Ukraine[36], by the end of May 2018, another 10 Mi-2MSB-V helicopters were transferred to the armed forces of Ukraine[37]. At the end of January 2020, another Mi-2MSB was transferred to the 10th Naval Aviation Brigade of the Ukrainian Navy
          exactly the same story as with the Mi-8MSB, OLD helicopters were taken and "reborn" into "new", but there was never any series
          The first helicopters were manufactured on the territory of Ukraine[1] (in the course of modernization, the helicopters were overhauled at the Konotop aircraft repair plant Aviakon, and then remotorized in Zaporozhye)
          Ukraine on its own, without Russia, neither then nor now could and cannot do anything in the aircraft industry, and the transition to Western standards and companies was VERY delayed
        2. vovochkarzhevsky
          vovochkarzhevsky 18 February 2023 15: 18
          0
          There is no production of the MSB-2 developed on the basis of the Mi-2. There is a piece semi-artisanal alteration of existing Mi-2s. Moreover, without coordination with the design bureau, therefore, there are very big problems with the resource and guarantee.
      2. lopvlad
        lopvlad 18 February 2023 15: 57
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        And there is no need to belittle the contribution of the same Motor Sich, until now many helicopters of the Russian Aerospace Forces fly on their engines, and many others have their units in their engines


        the TV3-117 engine is the same Ukrainian as the Chinese Intel processors.
        The engine was developed in 1965-1972 at the Design Bureau named after V. Ya. Klimov (Leningrad) under the leadership of S. P. Izotov and S. V. Lyunevich and the INTEL processor in the USA.
        It is very important to distinguish those who have developed and designed from those who are simply engaged in the assembly and release of other people's inventions according to the provided documentation and topology.
        Regarding the lost production of certain goods during the collapse of the USSR in the former Soviet republics, upon closer examination it becomes clear that almost everything that Russia lost was originally developed in the RSFSR, and in the republics only assembly was carried out according to ready-made Russian documentation.
        1. svp67
          svp67 19 February 2023 02: 54
          -1
          Quote: lopvlad
          the TV3-117 engine is the same Ukrainian as the Chinese Intel processors.

          Thanks for the historical digression, I know it, as well as the fact that further design support and modernization was carried out by the design bureau at the modern Motor Sich
          Quote: lopvlad
          in the republics, only assembly was carried out according to ready-made Russian documentation.

          With the appropriate competencies of workers and engineers, which the workers and engineers in the RSFSR did not have.
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    2. sifgame
      sifgame 18 February 2023 12: 58
      +2
      It will no longer be possible to decommunize, almost everything has been demilitarized, and what remains will be squeezed out within the framework of indemnities.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 February 2023 12: 57
    +2
    Now, if the Russian military did not have MANPADS, then we would ... How else to interpret CNN information received from Ukrainian helicopter pilots. It is strange that with such losses in technology and pilots, they still manage to fly.
  5. alexey_444
    alexey_444 18 February 2023 13: 03
    +5
    Crying Yaroslavna, preparing public opinion for the supply of helicopters. The world is full of Mi-8 helicopters, so more have already been shot down than it was. But the main thing is that pilots are lost, and this is piece goods, not some kind of infantry years of training. But in the west there are no helicopters better than ours, in terms of maintenance, survivability, if in Afghanistan our limited contingent had today's Western ones, we would not have lost 333, but more than a thousand, not to mention the guys on the ground left without air support.
  6. Bingo
    Bingo 18 February 2023 13: 07
    +4
    The problem with ukrovetletov is that the Russian Federation has air defense. N-yes ... In the USA they would fly until green - there they only learned to knock down Winnie the Poohs and
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    1. Carat
      Carat 18 February 2023 13: 15
      +1
      Quote: Sergio63
      ???!!


      What was it?
      1. Alex013
        Alex013 18 February 2023 13: 21
        +5
        It was a cry from the heart, or a cat reached the keyboard.
        1. 75 Sergey
          75 Sergey 19 February 2023 23: 09
          +1
          I'm translating
          Where do they manage to get these helicopters ...
          Klava writes backwards ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      2. Mini Mokik
        Mini Mokik 18 February 2023 13: 25
        +2
        Well, did you pay attention to it? winked

        So the goal is achieved feel
      3. 75 Sergey
        75 Sergey 19 February 2023 23: 08
        0
        Read it backwards, it's a question
    2. 75 Sergey
      75 Sergey 19 February 2023 23: 07
      0
      Transfer.
      Where do they manage to get these helicopters ...
  9. VB
    VB 18 February 2023 13: 08
    +6
    Class! Air Brigade named after Sikorsky! Igor Sikorsky, a native of Kyiv, an enemy of Soviet power, a monarchist, a supporter of the One and Indivisible, would turn over in his grave from Banderlogs and the outskirts of the state. The idiots laughed.
  10. Fitter65
    Fitter65 18 February 2023 14: 00
    +2
    Helicopters of the Sikorsky air brigade make three sorties per day for each machine.
    It doesn't matter how many there are. The most interesting thing is that they can make THREE flights a day !!!
    In order to protect themselves from MANPADS, Ukrainian helicopters are forced to operate at a very low altitude. Sometimes, correspondents report, they even touch trees.
    Well, it's not only they who are saved like that, from MANPADS. Just considering that the bulk of the Mi-8 in the UkroVVS are former transport workers .... And they manage to make THREE sorties a day ... Or I’m standing on the pavement, I’m shod in skis ... Or someone is “faking”, about three flights a day...
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 18 February 2023 14: 48
      +3
      they even hit trees.
      The Viet Cong mined the tops of the trees.
    2. Aag
      Aag 18 February 2023 21: 31
      -2
      Quote: Fitter65
      Helicopters of the Sikorsky air brigade make three sorties per day for each machine.
      It doesn't matter how many there are. The most interesting thing is that they can make THREE flights a day !!!
      In order to protect themselves from MANPADS, Ukrainian helicopters are forced to operate at a very low altitude. Sometimes, correspondents report, they even touch trees.
      Well, it's not only they who are saved like that, from MANPADS. Just considering that the bulk of the Mi-8 in the UkroVVS are former transport workers .... And they manage to make THREE sorties a day ... Or I’m standing on the pavement, I’m shod in skis ... Or someone is “faking”, about three flights a day...

      I share your outrage.
      I’m even ready to share the damned “minuses” with you ...
  11. Cat Alexandrovich
    Cat Alexandrovich 18 February 2023 14: 54
    +3
    But three sorties a day per car - very cool! If they don't lie. laughing
  12. agoran
    agoran 18 February 2023 21: 00
    +1
    There was a photo / video of how a Sumerian Mi-6 in UN coloring was shot down near Mariupol. The Sumerians brought them from Africa.
  13. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 19 February 2023 23: 04
    +1
    Yes, they have normal protection, etc.
    They just don't fight against anyone.
    Let the correspondents do not escalate.