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Great economy great war


The direct damage inflicted by the Great Patriotic War on the economy of the USSR amounted to almost one third of the total national wealth of the country; nevertheless, the national economy survived. And not only survived. In the pre-war years, and especially in the war years, defining economic decisions were taken, innovative (in many respects unprecedented) approaches to the realization of the goals and urgent production tasks were developed and implemented. They formed the basis of the post-war economic and innovative breakthrough.



Since its inception, the Soviet Union has striven in every way to become a self-sufficient, economically independent country. Only such an approach, on the one hand, contributed to the state's independent foreign and domestic policy and allowed to negotiate with any partners and on any issues on an equal footing, and on the other - strengthened defense capability, increased the material and cultural level of the population. The decisive role in achieving these goals was played by industrialization. The main efforts were directed to it, forces and resources were spent. At the same time, significant results were achieved. So, if in the 1928, the production of means of production (industry group A) in the USSR accounted for 39,5% of the gross output of the entire industry, then in 1940, this figure already reached 61,2%.

They did everything they could


From 1925 to 1938, a whole series of advanced industries were created that produced technically sophisticated products (including defense ones). Received further development (reconstructed and expanded) and old enterprises. Their worn and outdated material and technical base of production was changing. At the same time, not just others were installed in the place of one machine tool. They tried to introduce everything that was most up-to-date and innovative at that time (conveyors, flow lines with a minimum number of manual operations), and increased the power supply to the production facilities. For example, for the first time in the USSR, a conveyor system and the first automatic line in the world from aggregate machines and semi-automatic machines were commissioned at the Stalingrad factory Barricades.

For the purpose of industrial development of the eastern regions of the country and the union republics, these enterprises were replicated - duplicate equipment and part of the workers (mainly engineering and technical managers) were involved in organizing and setting up production in a new place. At certain civilian enterprises, reserve capacities were created for the production of military products. In these specialized areas and in the shops in the pre-war years, technology was worked out and military production was mastered.

During the years of the first five-year plans, and especially the pre-war years, the giant mineral deposits that the country had were explored and began to commercialize. At the same time, resources were not only widely used in production, but also accumulated.

Thanks to the use of a planned economic system, it was possible, firstly, optimally from the point of view of various costs, and secondly, from the point of view of achieving results, it was most advantageous not only to place significant production facilities, but also to create entire industrial areas. In 1938 — 1940 in the USSR State Planning Committee, reviews were prepared on the implementation of plans for economic regions, on the elimination of irrational and excessively long-haul transport, regional balances (fuel and energy, material, production capacities, transport) were developed and analyzed, plans were made for the co-operation of supplies in a territorial context, major regional - complex schemes.

Setting the task of turning the country into an advanced, industrialized power, the state’s leadership at an accelerated pace made the transition to a predominantly urbanized way of life (not only in large cities, but also in rural areas, given that more than 65% of the population lived there) with the creation modern system of social infrastructure (education, training, health, radio, telephone, etc.) that meets the requirements of industrially organized labor.

All this allowed the USSR to ensure high rates of economic development in the pre-war years.

In 1940, compared with 1913, gross industrial output increased 12 times, electricity production increased in 24, oil production increased in 3, iron production increased in 3,5, steel production increased in 4,3 times, production of all types of machine tools increased 35 times, including metal cutting - 32 times.

By June 1941, the country's car fleet grew to 1 million 100 thousand cars.

In 1940, the collective and state farms handed over the state 36,4 million tons of grain to the state, which made it possible not only to fully meet the country's internal needs, but also to create reserves. At the same time, grain production in the east of the country (the Urals, Siberia, the Far East) and in Kazakhstan significantly expanded.

The defense industry grew strongly. The growth rate of military production in the years of the second five-year period was 286% compared to 120% of the growth of industrial production as a whole. The average annual growth rate of the defense industry over 1938 — 1940. amounted to 141,5% instead of 127,3% provided by the third five-year plan.

As a result, by the beginning of the war, the Soviet Union had become a country capable of producing any type of industrial products available to humanity at that time.

East Industrial Area



The creation of the eastern industrial region was due to several tasks.

Firstly, the processing and high-tech industries sought to bring as close as possible to sources of raw materials and energy. Secondly, due to the integrated development of new geographical areas of the country, centers of industrial development and bases for further movement to the east were formed. Thirdly, backup enterprises were built here, and the potential was formed for the possible deployment of evacuated capacities from the territory, which could become a theater of operations or be occupied by enemy troops. In this case, the maximum removal of economic objects beyond the range of the bomber aviation potential adversary.

In the third five-year period, 97 enterprises, including 38 engineering, were built in the eastern regions of the USSR. In 1938 — 1941 Eastern Siberia received 3,5% of allied investment, Western Siberia - 4%, the Far East - 7,6%. The Urals and Western Siberia took the first place in the USSR in the production of aluminum, magnesium, copper, nickel, and zinc; Far East, Eastern Siberia - for the production of rare metals.

In 1936, only the Ural-Kuznetsky complex produced 1 / 3 smelting iron, steel and rolled products, 1 / 4 iron ore, almost 1 / 3 coal mining, and about 10% engineering products.

On the territory of the most populated and economically developed part of Siberia, by June 1941, there were more than 3100 large industrial enterprises, and the Ural energy system has become the most powerful in the country.

In addition to the two railway exits from the Center to the Urals and to Siberia, shorter lines were laid through Kazan - Sverdlovsk and through Orenburg - Orsk. A new outlet was built from the Urals to the Trans-Siberian Railway: from Sverdlovsk to Kurgan and to Kazakhstan via Troitsk and Orsk.

The placement of doubles in the east of the country in the third five-year period, putting some of them into operation, creating construction reserves for others, as well as forming an energy, raw materials, communication and socially developed base made it possible at the beginning of World War II not only to use these capacities for military production , but also to deploy in these places and put into operation related enterprises relocated from the western regions, thereby expanding and strengthening the economic and military capabilities of the USSR.


The scale of economic losses


Despite all the measures taken, the creation and development of other industrial areas (only in the Saratov and Stalingrad regions there were over a thousand industrial enterprises), on the eve of the war the Central, North-Western and South-Western industrial areas remained the basis of industry and agricultural production of the country. For example, the areas of the Center with the population of 26,4% in the USSR (1939) produced 38,3% of the gross output of the Union.
It was their country at the beginning of the war and lost.

As a result of the occupation of the USSR (1941 — 1944), the territory where 45% of the population lived was mined, 63% coal was mined, 68% pig iron, 50% steel and 60% aluminum, 38% grain, 84% sugar, etc. were produced. d.

As a result of the fighting and occupation, 1710 cities and urban settlements (60% of their total number) were completely or partially destroyed, over 70 thousand villages and villages, about 32 thousand industrial enterprises (the invaders destroyed the production capacity for the production of 60% pre-war steel , 70% coal production, 40% oil and gas production, etc.), 65 thousand kilometers of railways, 25 million people lost their homes.

The aggressors have caused enormous damage to the agriculture of the Soviet Union. 100 thousand collective and state farms were ravaged, 7 million horses, 17 million cattle heads, 20 million pigs, 27 million sheep and goats were slaughtered or stolen in Germany.
Such a loss could not withstand any economy in the world. Due to what our nevertheless managed to not only survive and win, but also create the prerequisites for subsequent unprecedented economic growth?

During the war



The war began not according to the scenario and not in the time expected by the Soviet military and civilian leadership. Economic mobilization and the transfer of the economic life of the country into a military manner were carried out under the blows of the enemy. With the negative development of the operational environment, it was necessary to evacuate a huge, unprecedented stories quantities of machinery, equipment and people in the eastern regions of the country and the Central Asian republics. Only the Ural industrial region took about 700 large industrial enterprises.

A huge role in the successful evacuation and early development of output, minimization of labor and resource costs for its production, cost reduction, and in the active recovery process that began in the 1943 year, was played by the State Planning Committee of the USSR.

To begin with, factories and factories were not taken out to a clean field, equipment was not dumped in ravines, and people did not rush to their fate.

Accounting in the field of industry was carried out during the war in the form of urgent censuses for operational programs. For 1941 — 1945 105 urgent censuses were conducted with submissions to the government. Thus, the CSB of the USSR State Planning Committee conducted a census of industrial enterprises and buildings designed to house evacuated factories, institutions, and organizations. In the eastern regions of the country, the location of existing enterprises with respect to railway stations, water piers, highways, the number of access roads, the distance to the nearest power station, the capacity of enterprises for the production of main products, bottlenecks, the number of employees, gross output were specified. Comparatively detailed characterization was given to each building and the possibilities of using production space. Based on these data, recommendations, instructions, orders and a list of the people's commissariats, individual facilities, local management were given, responsible persons were appointed, and all this was tightly controlled.

A truly innovative, not previously used in any country in the world, integrated approach was applied in the recovery process. Gosplan moved to the development of quarterly and especially monthly plans, taking into account the rapidly changing situation on the fronts. In this case, the restoration began literally behind the back of the army. It took place right up to the front-line regions, which not only contributed to the accelerated revival of the economy and national economy of the country, but also was of great importance for the fastest and least costly provision of the front with everything necessary.

Such approaches, namely, optimization and innovation, could not help but produce results. 1943 year was a turning point in the field of economic development. This is eloquently shown by these tables 1.

As can be seen from the table, the state budget revenues, in spite of the colossal losses, exceeded the revenues of one of the most successful 1943 years in the Soviet pre-war history in 1940.

Restoration of enterprises was carried out at a rate that foreigners still continue to wonder about.

A typical example is the Dnipro Metallurgical Plant (Dneprodzerzhinsk). In August 1941, plant workers and the most valuable equipment were evacuated. Retreating, the Nazi troops completely destroyed the plant. After the liberation of Dneprodzerzhinsk in October 1943, restoration work began, and the first steel was issued on November 21, and the first rental - December 12 1943 of the year! By the end of 1944, two blast furnaces and five open-hearth furnaces, and three rolling mills were already operating at the plant.

Despite the incredible difficulties, during the war years, Soviet specialists achieved significant success in the field of import substitution, technical solutions, discoveries and innovative approaches to the organization of labor.

So, for example, production of many early imported medical preparations was adjusted. A new method of producing high-octane aviation gasoline has been developed. Created a powerful turbine installation for the production of liquid oxygen. Improved and invented new machine-atoms, obtained new alloys and polymers.

When restoring Azovstal, for the first time in world practice, the blast furnace without dismantling was moved into place.

Design solutions for the restoration of destroyed cities and enterprises using lightweight structures and local materials proposed by the Academy of Architecture. Total is simply impossible to list.

Do not forget about science. In the hardest 1942, the expenses of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR on state budget allocations were 85 million rubles. In 1943, academic doctoral and postgraduate studies have grown to 997 people (418 doctoral students and 579 graduate students).

Scientists and designers came to the shop.

Vyacheslav Paramonov in his work “The Dynamics of the Industry of the RSFSR in 1941-1945”, in particular, writes: “In June 1941, machine tool builder teams were sent to enterprises of other departments to help transfer the machine park to mass production of new products. Thus, the experimental research institute of metal-cutting machines designed special equipment for the most labor-intensive operations, for example, a line of 15 machines for processing casings tank KV. Designers have found an original solution to such a problem as productive processing of especially heavy tank parts. At the factories of the aviation industry, design teams were created that were attached to those workshops to which the designs they developed were transferred. As a result, it became possible to conduct ongoing technical consultations, review and simplify the production process, and reduce the technological routes for the movement of parts. In Tankograd (Urals) special scientific institutes and design departments were created. ... High-speed design methods were mastered: the designer, technologist, toolmaker did not work sequentially, as was the case before, but all together, in parallel. The designer’s work ended only with the completion of production preparation, which made it possible to master the types of military products for one to three months instead of a year or more in the pre-war period. ”

Finance and Trade



The monetary system demonstrated its viability during the war years. And here integrated approaches were applied. So, for example, long-term construction was provided, as they say, with “long money”. Evacuated and recovering enterprises on preferential terms were granted loans. Economic objects suffered during the war were deferred on pre-war loans. Military expenses were partially covered by emissions. With timely financing and tight control over the executive discipline, commodity-money circulation practically did not give failures.

During the entire war, the state managed to maintain firm prices for essential goods, as well as low utility rates. At the same time, wages did not freeze, but grew. Only in a year and a half (April 1942-th - October 1943-th) its increase amounted to 27%. When calculating the money used a differentiated approach. For example, in May 1945, the average salary of metalworkers in the tank industry was higher than the average for the profession by 25%. The gap between the sectors with the maximum and minimum wages increased at the end of the war three times, whereas in the pre-war years it was 85%. The bonus system was actively used, in particular for rationalization and high labor productivity (a victory in socialist competition). All this contributed to increasing the material interest of people in the results of their work. Despite the rationing system, which operated in all the warring countries, money circulation played an important stimulating role in the USSR. Worked commercial and cooperative shops, restaurants, markets, where you could buy almost everything. In general, the stability of retail prices for basic goods in the USSR during the war does not have a precedent in world wars.

Among other things, in order to improve the food supply of residents of cities and industrial areas, the Decree of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR of November 4 of 1942 allocated land and enterprises to institutions and offices for individual horticulture. The plots were fixed on 5 — 7 years, and the administration was forbidden to redistribute them during this period. The income received from these plots was not taxed by the agricultural tax. In 1944, individual plots (total 1 million 600 thousand hectares) had 16,5 million people.

Another interesting economic indicator of the times of war is foreign trade.

In the moments of the hardest battles and the lack of the main industrial and agricultural areas, our country managed not only to actively trade with foreign countries, but also to go to 1945 on a surplus foreign trade balance, while surpassing pre-war indicators (table 2).

The most significant foreign trade relations during the war with the Soviet Union existed with the Mongolian People's Republic, Iran, China, Australia, New Zealand, India, Ceylon and some other countries. In 1944 — 1945, trade agreements were concluded with a number of Eastern European states, Sweden and Finland. But the USSR was with the anti-Hitler coalition countries especially large and determining foreign economic relations throughout the entire war.

In this regard, it should be said separately about the so-called Lend-Lease (the system of transferring the US to its allies to borrow or lease equipment, ammunition, strategic raw materials, food, various goods and services) that operated during the war. Supplies to the USSR were also carried out by the United Kingdom. However, these relations were not at all disinterested allied basis. In the form of reverse lend-lease, the Soviet Union sent 300 thousand tons of chrome ore to the USA, 32 thousand tons of manganese ore, a large amount of platinum, gold, and wood. In the UK - silver, apatite concentrate, potassium chloride, lumber, flax, cotton, furs and much more. This is how US Secretary of Commerce J. Jones evaluates these relationships: “With supplies from the USSR, we not only returned our money, but also made a profit, which was not a frequent case in trade relations regulated by our state.” American historian J. Herring put it even more specifically: “Lend-Lease was not ... the most disinterested act of human history. ... It was an act of prudent selfishness, and Americans always clearly realized the benefits they could derive from it. ”

Postwar rise


According to the American economist Walt Whitman Rostow, the period of the history of Soviet society from 1929 to 1950 can be defined as the stage of technological maturity, the movement to such a state when it “successfully and fully” applied the new technology for the time resources.

Indeed, after the war, the Soviet Union developed an unprecedented pace for a ravaged and bloodless country. Many organizational, technological and innovative achievements made during the Second World War have found their further development.

Thus, for example, the war largely contributed to the accelerated development of new processing facilities at the natural resource base of the eastern regions of the country. There, thanks to the evacuation and the subsequent creation of branches, advanced academic science in the form of campuses and Siberian research centers was developed.

At the final stage of the war and in the post-war period, the Soviet Union was the first in the world to implement long-term programs of scientific and technical development, which provided for the concentration of national forces and resources in the most promising areas. The long-term plan for fundamental scientific research and development, approved by the country's leadership in the early 50s, looked decades ahead in a number of its areas, setting goals for Soviet science that seemed simply fantastic at that time. Largely due to these plans, the Spiral reusable aerospace system project began to be developed in the 1960s. And on November 15, 1988, the Buran spacecraft-aircraft made its first and, unfortunately, only flight. The flight took place without a crew, completely automatically, using an on-board computer and on-board software. The United States was able to make a similar flight only in April of this year. As they say, less than 22 years have passed.

According to the UN, by the end of the USSR 1950, in terms of labor productivity, it was already ahead of Italy and reached the level of Great Britain. At that time, the Soviet Union developed at the fastest pace in the world, surpassing even the growth dynamics of modern China. Its annual growth rate at that time was at the level of 9 — 10%, exceeding the growth rate of the United States five times.

In 1946, the industry of the USSR reached the pre-war level (1940), in 1948-m surpassed it by 18%, and in 1950, by 73%.

Unclaimed experience


At the present stage, according to estimates of the Russian Academy of Sciences, in the cost of Russian GDP 82% is the natural rent, 12% is the depreciation of industrial enterprises created during the Soviet era, and only 6% is directly productive labor. Consequently, 94% of domestic income comes from natural resources and eating away from the old heritage.

At the same time, according to some data, India with its afflicting poverty on computer software products earns about 40 billion dollars a year - five times more than Russia from selling its most high-tech products - weapons (in 2009, the Russian Federation through Rosoboronexport "sold military products worth 7,4 billion dollars). The Russian Ministry of Defense, no longer embarrassed, says that the domestic defense-industrial complex is not able to independently produce separate samples of military equipment and components for them, and therefore it intends to expand the volume of purchases abroad. This, in particular, is about buying ships, unmanned aerial vehicles, armor and a number of other materials.

Against the background of military and post-war indicators, these results of the reforms and the statement that the Soviet economy was ineffective look very peculiar. It seems that such an assessment is somewhat incorrect. It was not the economic model as a whole that turned out to be ineffective, but the forms and methods of its modernization and renewal at a new historical stage. Maybe it is worth recognizing and referring to the successful experience of our recent past, where there was a place for innovation, organizational creativity and a high level of labor productivity. In August last year, it was reported that a number of Russian companies in search of "new" ways to stimulate labor productivity began to look for opportunities to revive socialist competition. Well, perhaps, this is the first swallow, and in the “well forgotten old” we will find a lot of new and useful things. And the market economy is not a hindrance at all.

Vadim BONDAR
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  1. + 12
    April 5 2026 06: 21
    Therefore, 94% of domestic income is generated from natural resources and eating up the previous legacy.
    We wear galoshes.... what
    1. +8
      April 5 2026 06: 34
      We're wearing them out, and we don't know who'll send us new galoshes. A poem by Chukovsky from my childhood comes to mind:
      - Ah, those that you sent
      Last week,
      We have already eaten a long time
      And we wait, we will not wait,
      When will you send again
      To our supper
      Dozen
      New and sweet galoshes!
  2. +7
    April 5 2026 07: 05
    A market economy is all about profit; it won't create anything for the benefit of society. They'll introduce socialist competition—and then someone will buy an extra yacht. A kick in the pants from the state is needed, but you need to know where and when to hit them, not just bludgeon them over the head with a club.
  3. + 14
    April 5 2026 07: 08
    Much can be said about the Soviet economy, but the economy during the Great Patriotic War is the stuff of legends. Where did the strength and desire come from to relocate and establish in a new location the production that broke the neck of European fascism? So there was something in socialism itself, and in that "military secret" the bourgeoisie never learned from Malchish-Kibalchish, that enabled, that inspired, the labor exploits for which the Hero of the Soviet Union and Socialist Labor star was not simply awarded...
    Why is everything so different today? Perhaps we've been led down a slippery slope, ending with happiness and prosperity not for everyone, but only for the most brazen, the most cynical...
    Tell me, why do we feed and maintain people in high positions and salaries whose work is mediocre? What do these leaders do in this country who have not proven their own importance to either the citizens or the country, who are incapable of organizing, overseeing, leading, making the right choices, or correcting the mistakes of their predecessors or even their own?
    "No one is irreplaceable. Sometimes, when the hive is out of balance... the queen must be replaced."
    © "Beekeeper" (2024)
    1. -3
      April 5 2026 12: 16
      This means there was something in socialism itself, and in that “Military Secret” that the bourgeoisie never managed to find out from Malchish-Kibalchish.
      "Nikita broke the entire system, and after him, people were too lazy or too afraid to restore it. And Gosplan, instead of being a manufacturer, became a bureaucratic office."
  4. +4
    April 5 2026 07: 24
    Lev Nikolaevich Koshkin developed rotary and rotary-conveyor lines. As director of the Ulyanovsk Machine-Building Plant, he introduced rotary equipment for the production of small arms cartridges, increasing productivity three- to fourfold.
    Academician of the USSR Academy of Sciences (1984), Academician of the All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences (1975). Hero of Socialist Labor (1982). Laureate of the Lenin (1962), Stalin (1943), and USSR State Prizes. Honored Inventor of the USSR (1983). Member of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) since 1941.

    Yuri Nikolaevich Koshkin (the elder brother) is, for obvious reasons, less known.
    Participant in the construction and launch of reactors "A", OK-1 10, OK-120, OK-135, OK-140, OK-204, OK-205 and OK-206 in Chelyabinsk-40, Tomsk-7 and Krasnoyarsk-26.
    Stalin Prize, Second Degree (1949) - for the development of an unloading mechanism for Plant A of Combine No. 817
    Stalin Prize, First Degree (1953) – for calculation and experimental work on the creation of reactors for the production of tritium[1][2].
    Lenin Prize (1959) – for a special product, decree of July 20, 1959.
    Order of Lenin (28.4.1963)
    three Orders of the Red Banner of Labor (October 29, 1949, December 18, 1951, April 26, 1971)
    Order of the Badge of Honor (5.1.1944).
    (Wiki)
  5. +1
    April 5 2026 07: 27
    "Effective managers" have surpassed their ideological predecessors....
  6. -5
    April 5 2026 08: 48
    In 1940, collective and state farms delivered 36,4 million tons of grain to the state,
    Source: Agriculture of the USSR, Central Statistical Administration of the USSR, Moscow, 1960:
    grain crops, harvest in 1940 - 77.9 million tons, in 1913 85 million tons, cows in 1940 22 million, in 1916 28 million
    .
    1. +3
      April 5 2026 10: 14
      According to Rosstat, as of the end of August 2025, the total number of cattle in agricultural organizations in Russia amounted to 7,54 million heads, which is 2,1% less than the same period last year.

      True, grain production in 2024 was 120 million tons. However, the cost of living is rapidly rising and the quality of life is deteriorating.

      Would you like to compare 1913 and 1940 in terms of the number of industrial enterprises?
      1. -2
        April 5 2026 10: 57
        Quote: gromila78
        the quality of life is deteriorating.

        Yeah, if oranges had been brought to the village in February in the 1970s, you could have filmed "Fighting Without Rules" right there. Compared to socialism.
        And comparing it to capitalism is nonsense; no one promised stability under it.
        1. +3
          April 5 2026 12: 25
          This is exactly what they promised when they were dismantling the USSR, they said that a master's hand was needed and that under capitalism everyone would live freely, richly, and happily.
          1. 0
            April 5 2026 13: 08
            "From each according to his ability, to each according to his capital... if you don't have capital, you get a punch in the face."
          2. 0
            April 5 2026 17: 59
            A fragment from "Father Goriot" that has become a hackneyed phrase: "Behind every great fortune lies a crime."

            To seduce a woman to climb one rung or another of the social ladder, to sow discord among children in a family—in short, to commit all the abominations that are committed secretly, but one way or another for personal gain or pleasure. What do you think this is? Deeds in the name of faith, hope, and love? When a dandy robs his children of half their fortune in one night, he is sentenced to two months in prison, but why is a poor man sent to hard labor for stealing a thousand-franc note under "aggravating circumstances"? Here are the laws for you. There isn't a single paragraph in them that doesn't boil down to absurdity. A man with fashionable gloves and a lie in his heart committed murder without shedding blood, but by deception; a murderer opened a door with a master key—both are crimes of the night. For between what I propose and what you will sooner or later commit, there is no difference, save for the bloodshed. So despise people and find those loopholes in the web of the Code of Laws where you can slip through. The secret of great fortunes, acquired through unknown means, is hidden in crime, but it is forgotten because it is done with integrity.
        2. +1
          April 5 2026 13: 10
          There are oranges, but the village has disappeared...
          1. -1
            April 5 2026 18: 36
            There are oranges, but the village has disappeared...

            Everything is fine. In 1978, the RSFSR saw a record harvest of 114 million tons of grain.
            In 2023 - 154.

            And the fact that the extra people have fled is for the better. The city will become smarter and see life for itself… wink
            1. +1
              April 6 2026 13: 01
              So, 154 million tons of grain isn't Russia's harvest, but the harvest of imported seed producers. If they weren't there, there wouldn't be 100 million.
              1. -2
                April 6 2026 13: 48
                So, 154 million tons of grain isn't Russia's harvest, but the harvest of imported seed producers. If they weren't there, there wouldn't be 100 million.

                In terms of grain, almost 100% of everything is domestic. Yes
          2. -1
            April 5 2026 21: 38
            Quote: Illanatol
            There are oranges, but the village has disappeared...

            The village began to disappear back in 1930, when industrialization began.
            Then, during the war, the village perished more than the city.
            Then in the 1970s the village moved to the cities - to apartments and institutes.
            Soviet tricks of keeping people in place—registration, passports, and so on—don't work.
            So it’s not surprising that the village is becoming empty.
            There are no people willing to plow the fields - when for the same money you can work as a security guard in Moscow
            1. 0
              April 6 2026 08: 14
              But the fact remains: the process has accelerated significantly in the post-Soviet period. Sure, if you spend money on oranges and tell your farmers to go where they belong, the result is quite predictable.
              There were and are people who want to plow the fields, but they do not always have such opportunities.
              1. -1
                April 6 2026 08: 38
                Quote: Illanatol
                But the fact remains that in the post-Soviet period the process has noticeably accelerated.

                Process accelerated because 1) the general demographics decreased, 2) the youth who left the village in the 1970s reduced the birth rate in the village in 1980-1990, 3) the youth who left in 1990-2000 left only the elderly in the village.

                Quote: Illanatol
                There have always been and still are people who want to plow the fields, but they don’t always have such opportunities.

                That's the funny thing - there are no takers. For example, there's a company operating along the Volga from Krasnodar to Kazan – they plow/mow/harvest with their own equipment, hired out to farmers. The salary is 150 rubles during the season, 25 rubles without work in the winter. They cry, saying they'll gladly hire five people, but there are no takers.
                And farmers also have few workers willing to plow...
              2. 0
                April 6 2026 11: 28
                Quote: Illanatol
                But the fact remains that in the post-Soviet period the process has noticeably accelerated.

                It accelerated back in the 70s. The state policy of liquidating unpromising villages and the "dying Non-Black Earth Region" is precisely from Soviet times.
        3. +2
          April 6 2026 15: 22
          What oranges again? There was sugar yesterday. lol The main thing is to fill your belly and not produce anything at the same time, eating up the "national wealth"?
          There's nothing to compare it to. This capitalism is disgusting; we're in deep. It's disgusting. The only people who get off are the boys who speculate in books and swindlers of all levels.
          1. -1
            April 6 2026 15: 36
            Quote: Essex62
            What oranges again? There was sugar yesterday.
            Have you proposed a method for recalculating prices for products from the USSR and the Russian Federation?
            No?
            What's the deal? Did you realize that any method shows a roughly twofold price difference compared to the USSR—not in favor of the USSR, where prices are higher, and so they withered?

            Quote: Essex62
            This capitalism is disgusting, we're in deep trouble. It's disgusting.

            Well, who is to blame for the fact that 17 million sheep called members of the CPSU elected a sheep as their leader and cheerfully flushed the entire country down the toilet.
            I completely agree with you - it's disgusting.
            Especially the fact that these 17 million say, “There was no order!!! And we ourselves stupid people incapable of anything!!!"
            They ruined the country in the process - and whoever you spit at, a capitalist / bourgeois. I am he NECESSARILY(!!!!) I was a communist.

            The Reds shot each other, the Whites shot each other, even the Wehrmacht generals shot each other - but at least one of the redneck generals of the USSR - for the sake of decency - out of shame!!!! - shot himself.
            This is enough to understand what it is members of CPSU by 1990.
            And since then, their limit is to criticize the authorities a little, so that the authorities don’t get offended....
            1. +1
              April 6 2026 18: 43
              Nothing's working out. Pennies and thousands. After a business trip up north, I could have bought a Zhiguli or made a sizable contribution to a co-op. But yesterday, toiling 12-13 hours a day in the oil industry, I couldn't save a dime for retirement in ten years.
              And stop telling me about 1990. Your people were in charge there for five or six years already, who are you talking to?
              1. 0
                April 7 2026 10: 07
                Quote: Essex62
                Nothing's working out. Pennies and thousands. I could have bought a Zhiguli after my business trip up north or made a hefty contribution to the co-op.

                You are in your element - "Why bother reading your opponent and understanding what he is writing about!?" (C).
                I'll repeat it for you for the third time - the conversation was about products.
                About the products.
                About the products.
                About the products.

                Can you suggest your own method for assessing the ratio of food prices in the USSR and the Russian Federation—one that is transparent and reliable?
                No?
                So, in fact, mine works and food prices in the USSR were about 2-3 times higher than they are now.



                Quote: Essex62
                After a business trip to the north, I could have bought a Zhiguli or made a hefty contribution to a cooperative.

                If you were on a business trip for two or three years, fed on the holy spirit, drank and smoked exclusively for free - they could, no problem.
                The nasty thing is that in before Covid There were times when the oil industry could earn enough money to buy a car in a year or two - and not just a bucket of bolts, but a decent car.
                Then, yes, salaries there were cut very sharply.
                At our compressor plant in Alexandrov Gaia, the specialists used to earn 120-130 rubles (with bonuses), but now it's 50-70. And they're already posting ads for instrumentation technicians, welders, and so on.



                Quote: Essex62
                And stop telling me about 1990. Your people were in charge there for five or six years already, who are you talking to?

                They were driving members of the CPSU - if their members - the rams of the CPSU - were promoted to the top - what claims do you have against me? There non-partisan -capitalists there was not a single one.
                You have simply ruined the country by allowing renegades from the CPSU to come to power.
                And now you're whining - it's someone else's fault that you flushed the country down the toilet.
                1. +2
                  April 7 2026 17: 10
                  No, it doesn't work. A 200-ruble salary or a 100-ruble pension, plus peanuts for all the basic groceries. A 12-ruble pension, plus hundreds, even thousands, of the same groceries. And utilities are about 3 rubles for a two-room apartment, even though they were free, and today they're half that. What good is this compensation? I'm still hungry.

                  There's only one complaint against you: you're rooting for a profiteer in power. And for a bribe, which is doubly disgusting.

                  Members, yes, they are members. But they have nothing to do with the communists. They are turncoats.
                  1. -1
                    April 7 2026 18: 07
                    Quote: Essex62
                    penny prices for all basic products.

                    Take it. ANY product, multiply by 100 - and you will find out the real penny-like prices in the USSR.
                    I REPEAT, ANY (!!!!) PRODUCT IS A COMPLETE (!!) ANALOGUE OF THE ONE THAT EXISTS NOW


                    And yes, 200 rubles was already a very respectable salary - something like 100,000 now.
                    The father of the head of the PMK had 128 people under his command and he received 208 rubles.
                    So scale back your scope a little - if you had them, then not so many people received so much

                    Quote: Essex62
                    Moreover, for a bribe, which is doubly disgusting.

                    Where can I get what I'm owed? (C) An old joke.
                    You keep attributing things to me, but there's no money...

                    Quote: Essex62
                    But it has nothing to do with the communists. They're turncoats.

                    That is, activity YOURS You solemnly attribute to me pseudo-communists - that is, you are the real communists in white, and everyone around is covered in feces??
                    Well, that's fine, just your style...
                    1. +1
                      April 7 2026 18: 28
                      Why multiply by a hundred? For the average person, bread costs 28 kopecks per loaf, a bottle of milk 30 kopecks, half of which you get back by returning it at the store when buying another one, utilities 3 rubles for a free two-room apartment, and he earned 200 rubles. Factory workers earned money behind the controls of bulldozers and excavators, behind the wheel, and so on. Even more. Everyone, without exception. Well, let's say 140-160 rubles are for the really lazy ones. Still, with such price tags, a layer of fat will form. Might as well save up for something useful.

                      How should I know how security guards are paid? You know better.

                      Well, how could it be otherwise? I didn't stage a coup, I didn't destroy Soviet power or socialism. I opposed it. Whether I was dressed in white or not, I have nothing to do with it.
                      1. -1
                        April 7 2026 20: 09
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Why multiply by a hundred? For the average person, bread costs 28 kopecks per loaf, a bottle of milk 30 kopecks, half of which you get back when you return the bottle at the store.

                        Once again - for those who don't understand, here's a living example.
                        I have a 10 billion dollar bill. Zimbabwean. lol
                        A loaf of bread in Zimbabwe in 2007 cost 10 kilograms these billions of dollarslol
                        Cake
                        in this case - measure of value - allowing to correlate those 10 kg winked billions Dollars to our rubles. And we multiply by 100 to avoid confusion with fractions.

                        Quote: Essex62
                        All of them, without exception. Well, let's say 140-160 are completely lazy.

                        Mom, working in a laboratory, earned 126 rubles - with 3 laboratory assistants under her supervision.

                        Quote: Essex62
                        With such price tags, a layer of fat is formed

                        Let me repeat: the prices, even for 140 rubles, were inhumane.
                        But you forgot about the Soviet 60-ruble nannies, cleaners, kindergarten nannies, postmen, and so on...
                        Now you compare your 200 rubles with the price of groceries - and the prices seem like a pittance to you - but you were an oligarch in Soviet times!!!
                        In 1991, I did my practical work in the field - I earned 920 rubles a month on field surveys, and my classmates earned 87 rubles on office calculations.
                        When I bought food for 50 rubles, they were shocked.
                        Moreover, these 87 rubles were the basic amount - all the camera attendants received it plus or minus 4 rubles.

                        Quote: Essex62
                        How should I know how security guards are paid? You know better.

                        Well, you see, you don't know. And yet you're talking nonsense...

                        Quote: Essex62
                        I did not carry out a coup, I did not destroy Soviet power and socialism.

                        Hmm, I didn't stage a coup either and I didn't overthrow the Soviet government - yet you constantly accuse me of this.
                      2. +2
                        April 8 2026 09: 04
                        The nanny has a husband, or the child's father, who pays child support if he runs away. The state pays a pension for the loss of a breadwinner. My mother received it for my father, who died on a "long-distance mission," until I was 16.
                        Okay, I’m an oligarch with a measly two hundred, but who was I then at the oil field in the North?lol
                        My father-in-law and mother-in-law worked on a state farm. She was a milkmaid, he was a driver. Her salary was even higher than his, up to 350 rubles a month. They also kept livestock and had a huge plot of land for growing potatoes, allocated by the state farm. The whole, not small family, spent three days harvesting the crop. Up to 60 sacks. My father-in-law bought a Moskvich, but there was nowhere to park it. The entire garage, again built by the state farm for a pittance, was filled with potatoes. And then they would go to the field allocated to relatives.
                        Nannies, technicians, laboratory assistants lol Marry a working man and you'll be happy. Because he's the hegemon. And the whining of white-collar workers sitting around in their pants at the Research Institute of Chemical Engineering doesn't matter. Back to the machine, behind the levers. The few intellectual scientists who were truly useful rode around in their personal Volgas.

                        You're a speculator, and it was you who crawled out of your kitchens and onto the streets to overthrow the working class. He has nothing to do with it, ha. Don't be ridiculous.
                      3. +1
                        April 8 2026 09: 10
                        And again about '91? Once again, socialism began to collapse around '87. Your sabotage was quite impressive. Even the working class was already having a hard time back then. Although, by inertia, we lived better than the worthless anti-league. It wasn't possible to immediately destroy all the achievements of Soviet power. And today, the oligarchs brazenly demand that the Labor Code be abolished and forced to toil 12 hours a day. I suspect for the same wages.
                      4. -1
                        April 8 2026 11: 54
                        Quote: Essex62
                        They also kept livestock, and a huge plot of land for growing potatoes, allocated by the state farm. The entire, not small family, spent three days harvesting the crop. Up to 60 sacks.

                        Oops.........
                        So, I am a speculator - I sold books once, and your relatives sold potatoes and meat in the city to ordinary workers for "cheap" prices. lol - potatoes for a ruble and meat for 5-7 - that's not counting, right?
                        And don't tell me stories - that they plowed in the field, they plowed in their own gardens - but in the state farm field they didn't give a damn about the harvest.
                        Because of your relatives, the USSR was forced to send "associate professors and candidates" and the army into the fields - because these state and collective farm workers did the bare minimum.
                        Petty village bourgeois - pseudo-"workers".....

                        Quote: Essex62
                        Nannies, cleaners, lab assistants. Marry a working woman and you will be happy.
                        The current version for "daddy" is one to one.

                        And then people like you are surprised - "Why didn't they go and defend the Soviet government?"


                        Quote: Essex62
                        You are a speculator and it was you who climbed out of your kitchens and onto the streets to overthrow the power of the working class.

                        In fact, the party's power was overthrown with a bang - regardless of the hegemon, the authorities, and the security forces.


                        Quote: Essex62
                        Those few intellectual scientists who were of real use rode in personal Volgas.

                        She's the one.
                        In 1992, there were 26 Volgas in Dubna, including the secure machine-building plant and the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research. I don't know about the DMZ; at JINR, there were 17 laboratory directors alone, out of a total of 2600 people at the large site alone.
                        Apparently, only 26 people were actually useful—the rest were just sitting in the nuclear hub. They're not the "hegemon"—they're blue-collar workers with 128 rubles, and meat from your relatives costs 5-7 rubles at the market.
                        But you keep raving about "low prices and a Zhiguli for one business trip to the North"
                      5. 0
                        April 8 2026 20: 45
                        Listen, anti-insurgency. Your mother-in-law's arms are covered in swollen, twisted veins from milking cows. You get up at three in the morning and plow in that stinking barn until nightfall.
                        Nobody sold anything. My father-in-law had six brothers all over the country. Potatoes weren't grown everywhere. It was impossible in the city. They gave them the potatoes, and they ate them. They even traded them for watermelons; a couple of trucks came from Astrakhan, according to a contract.
                        What about Dubna? There were a ton of pants-wearing thugs there, too. I had a friend who worked there, in just that kind of position. He'd complain over a few drinks that the pay wasn't good enough, but he absolutely didn't want to work there.
                        I had something to compare it to; I'd worked as an engineer in my field before. I quickly realized it wasn't comme il faut in terms of pay.
                        So, you're a speculator and you're rooting for the speculator's power. Where's the disconnect here?
                      6. 0
                        April 9 2026 10: 19
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Listen up, anti-illiteracy activist. My mother-in-law's arms are covered in swollen, twisted veins from milking cows.

                        You would have dispossessed your mother-in-law in 1920. You would have stripped her of her excess skirt and sent the whole family to Kazakhstan/Siberia.
                        They lived too well...
                        Quote: Essex62
                        You get up at three in the morning and plow in the stinking barn until night.

                        Wow, they also kept a ton of cattle - they got up to milk every 3 times, not 5.
                        This means that the state farm's milk went unmilked - because after their own abysses, they could stretch their legs.

                        Quote: Essex62
                        My father-in-law had six brothers all over the country. Potatoes weren't grown everywhere. It was completely impossible in the city. They were given the potatoes, and they ate them.

                        6 bags of potatoes - they couldn't physically send/transfer/take away/store more in their apartment.

                        Quote: Essex62
                        Nobody sold anything.

                        And now let's count -
                        Quote: Essex62
                        The entire, not small family spent three days harvesting the crop. Up to 60 sacks.
                        60-6=54 bags
                        And where did they put 54 bags in six months, huh?
                        There are only two ways into the villages: either to the city to market it or to feed it to the cattle—but there will be a lot of cattle. And then it's a dead end. belay What to do with the meat? There were no freezers, so a family could eat a cow over the winter—but no more than one. What to do with the meat? Just don't talk nonsense about "sending it to the state farm"—they accepted beef for 70 kopecks and pork for 60 kopecks per kilogram, yeah...

                        And it turns out that your father-in-law and mother-in-law - the purest fists - meat, sour cream and butter, potatoes - they sold to the city.
                        And you they lied(!!!) As for the 350 rubles, you're a man of principles, you'll report it to the OBKhSS...
                        I specifically asked my mother-in-law about the salary—the milkmaid's salary cap was 130. Even my father-in-law, who had been the district's top harvester for 11 years, averaged 200 and some change per year.
                        And yes, unlike you, I believe my mother-in-law - the Soviet government awarded her an order for her work as a milkmaid...

                        Quote: Essex62
                        I had something to compare it to; I'd worked as an engineer in my field before. I quickly realized it wasn't comme il faut in terms of pay.

                        Well, of course—being an engineer means responsibility, knowledge, and demand. It's a completely different matter to reign supreme with a higher salary like a true communist...
                      7. 0
                        April 10 2026 09: 29
                        fool Briefly? I have no words to respond to such escapades from a responsible anti-terrorist with the habits of a speculator. lol
                        P.S. It's not me lying, it's you making up these anti-Soviet numbers out of thin air. My mother-in-law said up to 350, so it means up to 350. What's the point of her making it up?
                      8. 0
                        April 10 2026 11: 59
                        Quote: Essex62
                        My mother-in-law said up to 350, so it means up to 350. What's the point of her making things up?

                        So that the son-in-law knows that she doesn’t let him get away with much money, otherwise he’ll get cocky... Or so that he doesn’t borrow money...

                        Quote: Essex62
                        I have no words to respond to such escapades of a responsible anti-terrorist with the habits of a speculator.

                        In short? Unlike you, I've lived most of my life in the countryside and know what it's like to have 60 sacks of potatoes and 2-3 cows.
                        And I—unlike you—can't stomach the lies about 350 rubles a milkmaid earned on a state farm, working hard after 3 a.m., and 60 sacks of potatoes. Even at the slaughterhouse—where the slaughterers were paid 1-2 rubles a head and it was tough to get in—they made 350-400 rubles a month.
                        And then there was the milkmaid - there were as many of them as cockroaches, zero requirements for education and skills (even I know how to milk)...
                        So your mother-in-law was the one who was deceiving you - she got the money from HER cows, HER potatoes, HER pigs and chickens - city ​​market where she mercilessly fucked the hegemon you adore so much - like Sidorov's goat...
      2. -3
        April 6 2026 09: 00
        Quote: gromila78
        Would you like to compare 1913 and 1940 in terms of the number of industrial enterprises?

        Can they be eaten or worn? No? Then why?
        1. 0
          April 6 2026 11: 21
          Economic power depends primarily on industry, not agriculture. Industry subsidizes agriculture, not the other way around.
          And by your logic, there is nothing to eat in the Russian Federation, since the cattle population has fallen four times compared to the Republic of Ingushetia.
          1. -3
            April 6 2026 18: 27
            Quote: gromila78
            Economic power depends mainly on industry

            Is it edible? No? No.

            1940, letter to Stalin from a mother of two children:
            I've become so exhausted that I don't know what will happen to me next. I've become incredibly weak, eating salt, bread, and water all day, and the baby is only on one breast; I can't get milk anywhere. So, you have to live however you want. There's not enough to survive, to live. It's already pushing me to do bad things. It's hard to look at a hungry child.
            Joseph Vissarionovich, I hear from many mothers that they want to ruin their children. They say I'll light the stove, close the chimney, let them fall asleep and never get up. There's absolutely nothing to feed them. I'm already thinking about this too..
            1. +1
              April 6 2026 21: 26
              Can the source be?

              I've always wondered how it's possible to hate the USSR so much and feel so sorry for the Russian Empire, where infant mortality was skyrocketing and famine regularly devastated villages, and when it came to grain, merchants would say, "We won't have enough to eat ourselves, but we'll sell it." How does one even comprehend this?
              1. -2
                April 7 2026 10: 12
                Klementyeva P.S. Received by the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) on February 2, 1940.
                Quote: gromila78
                I've always wondered how it's possible to hate the USSR so much and feel so sorry for the Russian Empire.

                via 20 years After 1913, mortality was higher, no Africa knew the level of hunger and cannibalism of the peaceful 1933, nor the export of food during it, and hunger was permanent.

                how can you hate state of the Russian people Russia, where is he free And it grew rapidly, chose, and built, and every third person in the world is Russian? Then the Russian people were torn apart and plundered for 70 years for the benefit of the outskirts—by the end, the Russians died out, and the Tajiks grew 6 times, and so on and so forth.

                Only the blind cannot see.
                1. +1
                  April 7 2026 11: 24
                  I asked for the original source, not some garbage floating around the internet. The original source is a link to the archive.
                  And who did you read about the permanent famine? Search engines don't know anything about the 1940 famine in the USSR, returning results for 1946-1947. The letter you cited is apparently simply a fake, spread by people like you. I'm in no way idealizing the USSR under Stalin, but the positive things done and achieved under it are undeniable.
                  The example of modern capitalism convinces me that in Tsarist Russia only a tiny fraction of the population lived well, while the majority lived in poverty, since even shoes in the villages were a luxury and people wore bast shoes.
                  1. 0
                    April 7 2026 18: 28
                    Quote: gromila78
                    I asked for the original source, not some crap.

                    You have been given the address - the Central Committee of the VKPBE and the date - forward to the archive
                    Quote: gromila78
                    And who did you read about permanent hunger?

                    in people who survived it:
                    S. Melentyev - A. A. Andreev.
                    Dear Andrei Andreevich! I ask you to read my letter again, as I have not received a response to the letter I sent you on January 13th of this year, and I feel there is no effect. This is the second time I'm informing you of the absolutely catastrophic state of trade in Nizhny Tagil (Sverdlovsk Oblast). For a population of 180,000, the city, including the surrounding countryside, has been given a flour quota of 2680 tons for February. This is only for baking bread, bakery products, and flour goods for the retail chain and canteen trust. And not a single kilogram of flour is available for sale. For over a month now, massive queues have been forming outside all the bread stores in Nizhny Tagil (up to 500 people or more gather by the time the stores open). Bread delivered overnight sells out within two or three hours, and people continue to queue, waiting for the evening delivery. And so some shoppers stand in line from 4-5 a.m. until 6-7 a.m., and only then can they buy two kilograms of bread. I repeat, bread is sold in Tagil for 2-3 hours in the morning and 2-3 hours in the evening. That's all the bread-selling hours. 27 tons of various grains were sold in January. That's for a population of 180,000! In February, grains weren't even on sale. You can't buy anything in the stores except coffee, and there are massive queues for all other groceries. Doors and windows are broken every day; it's simply a nightmare. It's hard to even describe everything that's happening. Some retailers are adapting to selling bread in factory kiosks, and the result is that instead of working, people are standing in line during business hours.

                    The decree of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions, and the government has lost all force at these enterprises. Those who violate it by standing in line for two or three hours during working hours are not punished. I'd especially like to describe one incident: more than 2,000 formerly unemployed people from Western Belarus arrived in Tagil. By order of the City Committee of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) and the City Council, bread, sugar, textiles, and shoes are sold to them without waiting in line. When Tagil residents come to the store, they are refused access to these items. It often happens that Belarusians try to persuade shop assistants to sell sugar for children, but their convictions are not law for the shop assistants. They have orders not to sell to Tagil residents. This measure, although temporary, is harmful... The situation is extremely alarming, and it seems very strange to me that the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) is not intervening in Tagil affairs. And Comrade... Andreev, this is necessary because regional organizations are slow in providing assistance to the district. I kindly request that you let me know whether my letter sent to you on January 13, 1940, was received. Member of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), p/b No. 0396993. S. Melentyev, N. Tagil, Sverdlovsk Region., editorial board of "Tagilsky Rabochy". February 9, 1940
                    .
                    N. S. Neugasov - People's Commissariat of Trade of the USSR.
                    Dear comrades! Alapayevsk, Sverdlovsk Region, is experiencing a crisis in bread and flour supplies, unprecedented in history. People, children—the flowers of the future—are freezing in lines from evening until morning in -40 degree frosts for two or four kilograms of bread. Who would believe it! If you don't believe it, I assure you. The local authorities tell us that everything has been used up according to plan and that the grain is being fed to livestock, and the center cannot release any more. We, the workers of Alapayevsk, do not and will not believe under any circumstances that the center has not been notified of this machination by the local authorities. I sent a letter personally to Comrade Stalin on December 15, 1939, but it did not reach me because I have not received a reply. Neither bread nor flour is being delivered to Alapayevsk in sufficient quantities to eliminate the queues. I am confident that the Government of the USSR, represented by Comrade Stalin will respond to this letter and take immediate measures, i.e., he will deliver flour to the flour shops and bake as much bread as needed, and he will hold those in charge of this matter strictly accountable, as was the case in 1937. My address: Alapaevsk, Sverdlovsk Region, Workers' Town, Barracks No. 11, Apt. 73. Neugasov, Nikolai Semenovich. I am confident that the Party and the government will not allow anyone to mock the working class the way they are mocking here, and I want to know if my first letter has reached you. Neugasov, N. S. Received by the People's Commissariat of Labor on March 10, 1940.
                    and so on.
                    Quote: gromila78
                    Search engines know nothing about the famine in the USSR in 1940,

                    write correctly and there will be an answer, for example The Lost Famine of '37
                    Quote: gromila78
                    I am in no way idealizing the USSR during Stalin's time, but what was done and achieved under it

                    hunger and cannibalism are the most terrible in the world33,47, the biggest losses of Russia in territories from 1922-1940, both in people and
                    Quote: gromila78
                    and the majority lived in poverty, because even shoes in the village were a luxury and people wore bast shoes

                    lol It took 40 years to get dressed and eat like in 1913, but Russian peasants 1960 gg
        2. -1
          April 6 2026 18: 46
          The psychology of the small, selfish consumer. There was something to eat and something to wear. Stop lying.
  7. BAI
    +1
    April 5 2026 09: 48
    No industry can help to win without the will of the people
  8. +5
    April 5 2026 10: 06
    It's worth noting that the photo with the cabbage is of a vegetable garden in besieged Leningrad, on the square near St. Isaac's Cathedral. The Astoria Hotel is visible on the left, with its first-floor windows covered by shutters.
    And one more photo. In the background is a guard tower.
  9. +1
    April 5 2026 10: 08
    The foreign policy environment predetermined the transition from the market-based New Economic Policy (the entire economy consisted of Group B industries) to directive planning and the prioritization of Group A industries. As I.V. Stalin said, we were 50 years behind in our development, and we must complete this path in 10 years, otherwise we will be crushed. The two pre-war five-year plans produced results the world had never seen before, and the current economic achievements of various "tiger cubs" don't even come close to the achievements of I.V. Stalin's era, which were based on state planning and monetary policy. Moreover, the concept of GDP was different—what kind of gross product does the administrative apparatus, or tourism and many other industries, produce? None. Not only are they not creators of the product, but they are also consumers of it. Current GDP doesn't include anything, and it can only be used to judge money, not the real sector of the economy.
  10. +1
    April 5 2026 10: 23
    Numbers are everything to us. But if we use them, we need to do them correctly, not like some people here do, and we don't like that. There are some here, but we won't name them.

    Let's not confuse the general collection and the amount handed over to the state.
    extract from an official document:
    Gosplan of the USSR, Consolidated Indicative Plan of the National Economy of the USSR for 1941, v. 1, p. 27
    (approved by the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR on November 13, 1940, RGAE, f. 4372, op. 4, d. 100, l. 27)

    “…the gross grain harvest in 1940 amounted to 95,5 million tons, including:
    – wheat 41,2 million tons,
    – rye 25,4 million tons,
    – barley 12,9 million tons,
    – oats 7,3 million tons,
    – other crops 8,7 million tons…”

    And a quote about the volumes delivered
    From the same document (Gosplan of the USSR, Consolidated Indicative Plan of the National Economy of the USSR for 1941, vol. 1, p. 28):
    “…grain procurement from the rural population in 1940 actually amounted to 36,8 million tons, which constituted 38,6% of the gross harvest…”

    The grain harvest in the Russian Empire in 1913 was a record for pre-revolutionary Russia.
    Crop Harvest, million tons Share in total harvest
    Wheat 38,2 48%
    Rye 26,4 33%
    Barley 8,1 10%
    Oats 5,4 7%
    Buckwheat, millet, corn 1,5-2%
    TOTAL grain 79,6 million tons 100%
    Sources:
    Central Statistical Committee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (data from the 1913 agricultural census)
    "The National Economy of the USSR for 1922–1972", Central Statistical Directorate of the USSR, 1972
    The area under grain crops: ≈ 95 million hectares
    Average yield: ≈ 0,84 t/ha (low by today's standards, but high for that time)
    According to previous years
    Culture 1911, million tons 1912, million tons
    Wheat 31,8 35,1
    Rye 23,9 25,7
    Barley 7,3 7,8
    Oats 4,9 5,2
    Others 1,3 1,4
    TOTAL 69,2 75,2
    Source: Central Statistical Committee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (published in the Statistical Yearbook of the Russian Empire, 1914).
    1. +1
      April 5 2026 12: 03
      People have an amazing ability to be dissatisfied with numbers. Here's a summary from statistical collections. They downvote because they don't like the numbers.
      I would like to ask the site administration to forward these negative comments to the USSR State Planning Committee and the Statistical Yearbook of the Russian Empire.
      1. +2
        April 5 2026 13: 23
        If we recalculate the GDP of the Russian Federation and other state entities using the Soviet method, i.e. subtract real production from the total GDP, we will get the amount of padding legalized by the international accounting system, i.e. an unreal sector of the economy, and furthermore, we only count domestic production without taking into account imported components, then the picture of the world will look completely different - truly real, and not like in the kingdom of crooked mirrors.
    2. 0
      April 6 2026 11: 35
      Numbers are everything to us. But if we use them, we need to do them correctly, not like some people here do, and we don't like that. There are some here, but we won't name them.

      Let's not confuse the general collection and the amount handed over to the state.

      There's another subtle point about agricultural products and statistics: it's been written that before the National Agricultural Council, harvest reporting was based not on the actual weight of harvested grain, but on an average estimated weight. A plot of a field was taken, the harvest was collected and weighed, divided by the plot's area, and then the resulting yield was multiplied by the total area of ​​the harvested fields.
      Taking into account the unevenness of the yield, the selection of sample plots by the chairmen, and losses during harvesting, transportation, and storage, it regularly turned out that the yield in the report was huge, but the actual grain in storage was much less.
      1. 0
        April 6 2026 17: 57
        Honestly, I always have tons of questions about any statistical data, including Soviet ones. Who calculated it, when, using what methodology, who verified the data.
        My speech about numbers being everything is about how one or ten digits mean nothing. We need a data set, comparison, and analysis of the results. And certainly not a single line taken out of historical context.
  11. +1
    April 5 2026 10: 47
    The export-import table is too strange.
    It is clear why exports fell threefold - there was nowhere to export to.
    It's unclear why imports fell—perhaps Lend-Lease wasn't taken into account. For example, 427,000 cars, at a cost of 10,000 (roughly what ours cost), would already amount to 427 billion.
    What was destroyed was not paid for, but there was still quite a lot left that was not destroyed, which would many times exceed the imports listed in the table.
    In the case of exceptions Lend Lease - it's not clear where the imports are coming from - Europe is out of the question.
    Overall, it's a strange table.
    1. +3
      April 5 2026 13: 07
      Lend-lease is neither an import nor a purchase. It is a lease with the option to purchase, although this is not mandatory. Consumables (provisions, ammunition) were sent to the USSR free of charge. Combat equipment that was not destroyed could be purchased or returned after the war. Some equipment that had been used in the war against Japan was not subject to payment or return.

      The USSR didn't receive some of what it needed through Lend-Lease; it simply bought it. From whom? From the Yankees, the British... for gold, furs...
      1. 0
        April 5 2026 19: 40
        Military equipment that was not destroyed could be bought back or returned after the war.
        Or simply not return it, claiming it was killed in battle.
        Nobody checked
        1. 0
          April 6 2026 08: 27
          Nevertheless, repayments began after the end of WWII. But when the Yankees began simply destroying the returned aircraft, which were already well worn out, the Soviet government simply stopped the repayments. Final Lend-Lease payments were only made in the post-Soviet period. And, tellingly, Great Britain settled its Lend-Lease debts even later. Well, the later the better, since the debts were not indexed for inflation.
          1. 0
            April 6 2026 12: 26
            Nevertheless, return operations began after the end of WWII. But when the Yankees began simply destroying the returned aircraft, which were already in poor condition, the Soviet government simply stopped the return.
            Not therefore.
            Then relations between the USA and the USSR deteriorated, and apparently the Soviet government decided to keep the cars for itself, removing them from Moscow and Leningrad, where foreigners frequented.
            Final settlements on Lend-Lease
            Not for Lend Lease, but for all deliveries during the war years
            1. 0
              April 6 2026 13: 02
              No. It was primarily about army trucks. The Yankees simply threw these vehicles into the sea; they had no need for these Studebakers. But the USSR desperately needed trucks; the country needed to be rebuilt.

              In 1993, Russia reaffirmed its commitment to Lend-Lease obligations. The debt was included in broader agreements with the Paris Club of creditor countries. Russia repaid the outstanding Lend-Lease amount—along with other Soviet debts—to the United States (without any adjustments for inflation) on August 21, 2006.
              1. 0
                April 7 2026 20: 19
                The Yankees simply sank these cars into the sea.
                It would be a good idea for you to add here I testify as an eyewitness laughing
                You don't know this topic at all, that's why you're interested in Wikipedia.
                1. 0
                  April 8 2026 08: 44
                  Quote: Marrr
                  You don't know this topic at all, that's why you're interested in Wikipedia.


                  And you probably know very well, since you believe that the Yankees supplied limousines to the USSR under Lend-Lease...
      2. 0
        April 5 2026 21: 16
        Quote: Illanatol
        The USSR didn't receive some of what it needed through Lend-Lease; it simply bought it. From whom? From the Yankees, the British... for gold, furs...

        Before Lend-Lease, payment for weapons was made in gold - but this only explains 1941-early 42.
        Where does the import come from next??????
        Quote: Illanatol
        Lend-lease is neither an import nor a purchase. It's a lease with an option to purchase, which is optional.

        I know
        Quote: Illanatol
        Consumables (provisions, ammunition) were sent to the USSR free of charge.

        No. There was nothing free.
        1. 0
          April 5 2026 23: 29
          svoy1970 (Sergey), The Agreement between the USSR and Great Britain of August 16, 1941 "On Trade, Credit, and Clearing" worked wonderfully. The British, having Canada as a dominion, were very happy to buy from the USSR not only sable, but also silver fox pelts... True, the minelayer cruiser HMS Adventure arrived in Arkhangelsk on August 1, 1941, with cargo for the USSR... Yes, regarding the evacuation. In 1941, the Shirshinsky fur farm, which was located just southwest of the village, In Voroshilovsky, near the Arkhangelsk Paper and Paper Mill (since 1958, the village became Pervomaysky in the Isakogorsky District of Arkhangelsk, and since 1977, the city of Novodvinsk), silver foxes were evacuated from the Povenetsky Fur Farm in Karelia. Arctic foxes and American mink were evacuated from the Kola Fur Farm in Murmansk Oblast. Under the "pool concept," each state contributed its resources and took what it needed to wage war. In January 1942, Lend-Lease involved 26 states, and by the end of the war, 44 states. Since 1942, Canadian supplies have been counted separately from British ones, and their destroyers in northern ports served...
          1. 0
            April 6 2026 05: 51
            Quote: Tests
            The British, having Canada as a dominion, were very happy to buy from the USSR not only sables, but also silver fox skins.

            Everything is clear with the exports - it is not clear where the imports come from if the supplies are being made under the Lend Lease program??!!
            1. 0
              April 6 2026 08: 34
              What makes you think that? England itself was on Lend-Lease, receiving aid from the US. And not all supplies were Lend-Lease. Some were bought with their own money... and to buy, you first have to earn money by selling something.
              What prevented England, having received what it needed from the US under Lend-Lease, from selling some of these "goodies" to the USSR, but at market prices? It was good business, though... nothing personal.
              1. 0
                April 6 2026 08: 49
                Quote: Illanatol
                What prevented England, having received what it needed from the US under Lend-Lease, from selling some of these "goodies" to the USSR, but at market prices? It was good business, though... nothing personal.

                You amount See?????? These are pennies for the scale of Lend-Lease - but at the same time large sums for the supply of something.
                And yes, what could impoverished England at that time sell from the desperately needed USSR?
                1. 0
                  April 6 2026 08: 56
                  Quote: your1970
                  And yes, what could impoverished England at that time sell from the desperately needed USSR?


                  Not so poor, with so many colonies. Again, England received quite a lot from the US, more in monetary terms than the USSR (but less in physical, in-kind terms). However, England's own needs were smaller. England itself was smaller than the USSR, and the scale of its military operations was somewhat smaller (its military forces were smaller), as was its actual contribution to the joint victory.
                  1. 0
                    April 6 2026 10: 49
                    Quote: Illanatol
                    Quote: your1970
                    And yes, what could impoverished England at that time sell from the desperately needed USSR?


                    Not so poor, with so many colonies. Again, England received quite a lot from the US, more in monetary terms than the USSR (but less in physical, in-kind terms). However, England's own needs were smaller. England itself was smaller than the USSR, and the scale of its military operations was somewhat smaller (its military forces were smaller), as was its actual contribution to the joint victory.

                    I repeat - the question is not about the size or the colonies of England - the question is how much it is sold directly the USSR
        2. 0
          April 6 2026 08: 19
          What makes you think that? Why couldn't the USSR buy it in 1943 and subsequent years if it needed it?

          It was free. American companies were paid by the US Treasury.
          1. 0
            April 6 2026 08: 42
            Quote: Illanatol
            What makes you think that? Why couldn't the USSR buy it in 1943 and subsequent years if it needed it?
            you situation with convoys Remember????? What's the point of buying anything if Lend-Lease deliveries were accompanied by huge problems????

            Quote: Illanatol
            It was free. American companies were paid by the US Treasury.
            altruism lol , there you go.....
            Payment was in any case provided for what was not destroyed
            1. 0
              April 6 2026 09: 06
              Quote: your1970
              Do you remember the situation with the convoys????? What's the point of buying anything if Lend-Lease deliveries were accompanied by huge problems????


              Well, not everything went by sea. Some came from the US via Siberia, some via Iran. Yeah, it wasn't easy, but if it had to be.
              Well, when it was necessary, we still bought it. A spoon is precious at dinner time.

              What altruism? Back then, it was viewed differently. Allied countries contribute to the overall victory as best they can, and victory is essential for all allies. The US provided weapons and other supplies, and the USSR provided soldiers capable of using them. The Yankees themselves believed their own soldiers weren't enough to defeat Germany and Japan.

              The consumables were not subject to payment; they would have been “destroyed” in any case.
              Anything that was subject to return could be paid for at its residual value if the party did not wish to return it after use. If something that was not destroyed was returned, no payment was required. Leases were free. Moreover, an exception was made for equipment used in the war against Japan: no return or payment was required. This was supposed to be an incentive for the USSR to actively participate in the war against Japan.
              1. 0
                April 6 2026 10: 56
                Quote: Illanatol
                Well, not everything went by sea. Some came from the US via Siberia, some via Iran.

                It's the USA again and Lend Lease again (without money, conditionally) - the question is about clean imports to the USSR
              2. 0
                April 6 2026 10: 56
                Quote: Illanatol
                Well, not everything went by sea. Some came from the US via Siberia, some via Iran.

                It's the USA again and Lend Lease again (without money, conditionally) - the question is about clean imports to the USSR
            2. 0
              April 6 2026 11: 24
              Quote: your1970
              Do you remember the situation with the convoys????? What's the point of buying anything if Lend-Lease deliveries were accompanied by huge problems????

              The point was that LL deliveries were made according to approved lists, which might not have included what the USSR needed.
              And yes, in 1943, the southern route finally opened – the Yankees established a transport corridor through Iran. Plus, the Far Eastern route began to expand, with Lend-Lease shipments.
              1. 0
                April 6 2026 11: 52
                Quote: Alexey RA
                The point was that LL deliveries were made according to approved lists, which might not have included what the USSR needed.

                The lists included ALL what the USSR needed - including, for example, 237 million buttons.
                Let me repeat - the question is in the numbers of the export/import table
                Either it is included in the LL table, in which case the figures are anecdotal, or it is not included, in which case it is unclear what and from whom the USSR purchased after October 1941.
                All US supplies - from all three sides (the North, the Far East and Iran) - are within the framework of the LL lists.
                1. +1
                  April 6 2026 12: 32
                  Svoi1970 (Sergey), you're mistaken. Not everything was taken into account in all four "Protocols..." Even some military equipment was shipped outside the protocols, and due to the secrecy of our archives regarding deliveries, even of military equipment, it's very difficult to understand. Fashionable women not only in Moscow and Tashkent, but even in Arkhangelsk, in 1944-45 eagerly wore coats, shoes, and hats made in Great Britain. Men's coats, scarves, hats, and shoes—not at all military models—were readily sold by both Great Britain and the United States. The USSR supplied the United States with films and philatelic materials, which was not reverse Lend-Lease. These were ordinary trade transactions.
                  1. -1
                    April 6 2026 15: 23
                    Quote: Tests
                    Coats, shoes, and hats made in Great Britain were worn with great pleasure. Men's coats, scarves, hats, and shoes—not at all military models—were eagerly sold by both Great Britain and the United States.

                    The number of people who had access to such supplies is 0.0000000000.... 1% of the population.
                    Quote: Tests
                    but even in Arkhangelsk, in
                    It was much easier to get it there and in Murmansk - the sailors carried the goods in individual lol order.

                    Quote: Tests
                    Regular trading operations.
                    and films, clothing, and so on do not fit into the import amounts of this table - it's all small change.
                    1. +1
                      April 6 2026 15: 56
                      Svoy1970 (Sergey), do you seriously believe that Soviet merchant marine sailors in 1941-45 had both British pounds and US dollars and could easily buy something in a store in the UK or the US and bring it to Murmansk? Or do you think Allied sailors wandered around bombed-out Murmansk looking for buyers for individually delivered goods for "Nikolaev gold chervonets," not knowing Russian, while the NKVD and NKGB in Murmansk were wasting their time?
                      In Arkhangelsk, at the Red Forge, the best workers for repairing ships and vessels were rewarded during the Great Patriotic War with cuts of English wool fabric for suits... If you recall, I mentioned the Agreement between the USSR and Great Britain of August 16, 1941, "On Trade, Credit, and Clearing," and the temporary trade agreement of 1934, which has not been repealed. It seems that this agreement regulated the supply of weapons to the USSR on HMS Adventure and the Dervish convoy.
                      1. -1
                        April 6 2026 17: 30
                        Quote: Tests
                        Do you seriously believe that Soviet merchant marine sailors in 1941-45 had both British pounds and US dollars and could easily buy something in a store in the UK or the US and bring it to Murmansk? Or do you think that Allied sailors wandered around bombed-out Murmansk, looking for buyers for individually delivered goods for "Nikolaev gold chervonets," without knowing Russian?

                        I'll tell you a terrible secret - over the centuries sailors sailed in FOREIGNERS ports and somehow managed to get themselves 2 things - booze and women.
                        Without knowledge of languages ​​and despite on the NKVD/leaders/sheriffs/shamans...
                        Having survived German torpedoes and the high risk of being stranded in sub-zero water, they drank, fought, and romped like madmen. This was recorded by the NKVD throughout the entire convoy period.
                        And yes, "receiving a coat as a gift" is less punishable than accepting pounds. Nevertheless, there were plenty of currency transactions in Murmansk.

                        Quote: Tests
                        In Arkhangelsk, at the Red Forge, the best workers in ship and vessel repair were awarded with cuts of English wool fabric for suits during the Great Patriotic War.
                        - the number of workers who received cuts - 100 people during the war.
                2. 0
                  April 6 2026 16: 10
                  Quote: your1970
                  Either it is included in the LL table, in which case the figures are anecdotal, or it is not included - in which case it is unclear what and from whom the USSR purchased after October 1941.
                  All US supplies - from all three sides (the North, the Far East and Iran) - are within the framework of the LL lists.

                  Almost everything - a little more than a percent - went past LL. wink
                  Thus, according to the cited source, imports of goods into the USSR from June 22, 1941 to December 31, 1945 amounted to 60.306,1 million rubles. Exports of goods from the USSR during the same period amounted to 3.163,9 million rubles.
                  (…)
                  The lion's share of Soviet imports came from the United States—49.471,7 million rubles, or 82 percent of all Soviet imports. Supplies from the United States under the Lend-Lease program amounted to 48.961,5 million rubles, or 98,97 percent of all deliveries from the United States.

                  The total volume of Soviet imports during the war years excluding American Lend-Lease supplies Total exports amounted to 11.344,6 million rubles. Among other countries (except the United States), the largest supplier of goods to the USSR was Great Britain. Imports of goods from Great Britain amounted to 7.770 million rubles (12,9% of all Soviet imports during the war). Canada was the third largest supplier of goods to the USSR. Its shipments amounted to 775,9 million rubles (1,3% of all Soviet imports).

                  © Foreign trade of the USSR during the war.
                  https://www.fondsk.ru/news/2025/05/11/vneshnyaya-torgovlya-sssr-v-gody-voyny.html
                  1. 0
                    April 6 2026 17: 38
                    Quote: Alexey RA
                    The total volume of Soviet imports during the war years excluding American supplies under Lend-Lease amounted to 11.344,6 million rubles.

                    Here in 11 billion I believe - against the given table with anecdotal numbers that are neither a candle to God nor a poker to the devil
  12. 0
    April 5 2026 11: 24
    Against the backdrop of wartime and post-war indicators, these reform results and claims that the Soviet economy was ineffective appear quite peculiar.

    Things are different now! A very efficient economy!! Soviet factories were shut down, the country was turned into a raw materials appendage... And they claim that never before has a person in Russia lived so well!
    1. +1
      April 7 2026 17: 37
      So the question is, what kind of person is he? If he's one of our own, a bourgeois, then good.
  13. Fat
    +1
    April 5 2026 13: 59
    During the war, the Soviet Union had its most significant foreign trade relations with the Mongolian People's Republic, Iran, China, Australia, New Zealand, India, Ceylon and

    Well, well, Japan is missing from the list, which is probably no accident. It's to keep the propaganda spirit up... lol request
    The article is weak, on par with a second-year HSE student's essay. It completely ignores changes in the USSR's economic policy. It's as if none existed...
    1. +3
      April 5 2026 16: 11
      The article is weak, at the level of an essay by a second-year HSE student. You're essentially right, but this is apparently a free article for an online platform. It was written out of love for the process of writing. I have a hard time imagining how such a topic could be contained in a short article. There are many questionable statements at its core. The basic principles of the Soviet economy are presented very "implicitly."
      It is strange that, for example, depreciation is included in GDP (82% of the value of Russian GDP is natural resource rent, 12% is depreciation of industrial enterprises), although the Gross Product is calculated based on factor income: everything received by the factors of production (labor, capital, land). Depreciation is not income, but compensation for the wear and tear of existing capital.
      The figures, as always, are arbitrary; isolated data aren't indicative. I don't know how India earned $40 billion a year on software. I suspect it's earned by Indian coders working for Western companies on other companies' software. But our defense exports averaged $15 billion a year in the 2010s. And the volume isn't due to the inability to do anything else, but to the politicized and closed nature of the arms market.

      Russian arms exports in the 2010s (official data from the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation/Rosoboronexport)

      Year Signed/delivered contracts, billion dollars Key customers and directions
      2010 10,4 India (Admiral Gorshkov, MiG-29K), Algeria (S-300, T-90 tanks), China (engines, air defense systems)
      2011 13,2 India (Su-30MKI, Talwar frigate), Vietnam (Su-30MK2, Bastion), Syria (Pantsir-S1, Yak-130)
      2012 15,2 Iraq (Su-25, Pantsir-S1), India (T-90S, helicopters), Azerbaijan (APC, artillery)
      2013 13,2 India (Su-30MKI, Pechora-2M air defense missile system), Venezuela (Su-30MK2), Indonesia (Su-30, BMP-3)
      2014 10,9 India (S-400 initial stage), Iran (S-300 after lifting of embargo), China (S-400)
      2015 14,5 India (S-400, frigates), Iran (S-300PMU-2), Vietnam (Su-30, Bastion)
      2016 13,3 Algeria (Su-30MKA, T-90SA), India (S-400, frigates), Kazakhstan (Su-30, SAM)
      2017 15,3 Türkiye (S-400 contract), India (S-400, frigates), Egypt (Su-35, Ka-52)
      2018 19,0 Peak of the decade: India (S-400, frigates), Turkey (first S-400), China (S-400, Su-35)
      2019 15,2 Türkiye (second S-400 regiment), India (S-400 deliveries), Vietnam (Ka-32, BMP-3)
  14. -1
    April 5 2026 19: 37
    Let's start with the fact that factories and plants were not moved out into the open field.
    In a clean place there are none - usually some kind of sheds or erected walls with a weak tepeshka.
    And hastily dug dugouts for workers to live in
    I haven't read Pravda newspaper for a long time - thanks to the author for the trip back in time
    1. +1
      April 6 2026 11: 42
      Quote: Marrr
      In a clean place there are none - usually some kind of sheds or erected walls with a weak tepeshka.

      Typically, evacuations were carried out to "second sites"—reserve factory sites outside the areas subject to evacuation. These sites were built under the program for relocating industry to the East, laid out in the Third Five-Year Plan.
      The problem is that this five-year plan only began in 1938, so by 1941, the second sites were, at best, bare factory walls, with roofs if they were present. Housing and social amenities for the workers are a thing of the past.
      1. 0
        April 6 2026 12: 29
        At best, this is for spare parts; at worst, it will be used wherever necessary.
        ZIS was divided into 4 parts and scattered across 4 cities.
  15. 0
    April 5 2026 21: 33
    Quote: bairat
    A market economy is all about profit; it won't create anything for the benefit of society. They'll introduce socialist competition—and then someone will buy an extra yacht. A kick in the pants from the state is needed, but you need to know where and when to hit them, not just bludgeon them over the head with a club.


    Kalashmatit' probably doesn't mean using a club.
  16. 0
    April 5 2026 22: 01
    Quote: Stas157
    Against the backdrop of wartime and post-war indicators, these reform results and claims that the Soviet economy was ineffective appear quite peculiar.

    Things are different now! A very efficient economy!! Soviet factories were shut down, the country was turned into a raw materials appendage... And they claim that never before has a person in Russia lived so well!


    It's probably more correct to talk about people on average across the planet, and not just about Russia, which is only part of the USSR.
    The Germans and Angelo residents closed their mines. But they eat more meat, vegetables, and white bread than they did in the 30s. And we have more meat buns, more pants, and more skirts per person than we did in the 30s.
    Everything is falling apart, people are tightening their belts...
    And when asked why the plant wasn't moved from Belgorod to beyond the Urals, one of the commentators replied... Who would go to work there?
    When bread was essential for survival, people fought for it. Now I don't eat pork, only turkey for poultry, fish is essential, fried food is unhealthy, tap water is chlorinated, and there's little free parking...
    Well, the times are incomparable!
    A hundred years ago now is like comparing 1200 and 1800. Back then, we were on Lake Peipus, and now we grow fewer potatoes than in France.
  17. +1
    April 5 2026 23: 13
    Despite the horrific losses the Soviet Union suffered, we recovered fairly quickly. For example, food rationing was abolished almost immediately after the war ended in 1947, as was the case in Britain, which had been virtually unscathed in the early 50s. Moreover, food prices in our country fell annually. Stalin died, and everything began to fall apart.
    1. -1
      April 6 2026 06: 48
      Quote: AK-1945
      Stalin passed away and everything began to fall apart.

      However, a system that depends on one person is not the best system.
      1. 0
        April 7 2026 17: 45
        And what about today? When this man leaves, it'll be a real pain in the ass. They've already tried twice to push a bill through the State Duma about children supporting elderly parents, like in China. But apparently there's still some Soviet lingering there; it was rejected.
  18. 0
    April 6 2026 00: 18
    (In 2009, the Russian Federation sold military products worth $7,4 billion through Rosoboronexport).
    Excuse me, but this article was written in 2009-2010, right?
  19. +1
    April 6 2026 06: 47
    Quote: your1970
    Yeah, if oranges had been brought to the village in February in the 1970s, you could have filmed "Fighting Without Rules" right there.

    And now there's nowhere to bring these oranges. There's no village. :)
  20. 0
    April 6 2026 08: 51
    Forward this article to Putin.
  21. -1
    April 6 2026 11: 43
    All this allowed the USSR to ensure high rates of economic development in the pre-war years.

    In 1940, compared with 1913, gross industrial output increased 12 times, electricity production increased in 24, oil production increased in 3, iron production increased in 3,5, steel production increased in 4,3 times, production of all types of machine tools increased 35 times, including metal cutting - 32 times.

    But the State Agrarian University had a different opinion regarding the “high rates of development”:
    The threatening increase in the military danger and the rapid growth in the number of the Armed Forces have caused a sharp increase in the need for weapons and ammunition both for the current supply of troops and for the accumulation of necessary reserves. A natural consequence of this was a steady increase in the volume of current orders of GAU. Over the five years (1937-1941) in value terms, the order increased 6 times - from 2 to 12 billion rubles. Orders for the supply of guns increased more than 3 times (from 6,2 thousand in 1937 to 19,2 thousand in 1941), and artillery rounds - almost 4 times (from 8,4 to 32,3 million. PC.)

    To fulfill such plans, the defense industry needed an increased consumption of ferrous and non-ferrous metals, the resources of which during this time in the country increased slightly:
    - pig iron from 14,5 to 14,9 million tons per year;
    - steel from 17,7 to 18,3 million tons per year;
    - rolled products from 13,0 to 13,1 million tons per year.

    The presence of a significant disproportion between the growth of demand for metal and the level of its production created great difficulties in the work of the entire industry, and, above all, the defense industry. Most of all, this applied to shell production, which was the main consumer of ferrous and non-ferrous metals.
    The situation was such that if production of one type of weapon needed to be increased, this was often only possible by reducing the production of others. This occurred, for example, in 1940, when, in order to increase orders for mortars, the plan for gun deliveries had to be reduced (compared to 1939).

    © "Artillery Supply in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-45.", Moscow-Tula, GAU publishing house, 1977.
    1. 0
      April 7 2026 17: 51
      Nothing surprising. How many years have passed since the Civil War and the total devastation? Where were they supposed to find personnel in a peasant country? That's precisely the advantage of a planned economy. They adjusted their production to include mortars. They've made significant progress in ten years. From scratch.
  22. 0
    April 15 2026 05: 48
    Quote: Alexey RA
    To fulfill such plans, the defense industry needed an increased consumption of ferrous and non-ferrous metals, the resources of which during this time in the country increased slightly:
    - pig iron from 14,5 to 14,9 million tons per year;
    - steel from 17,7 to 18,3 million tons per year;
    - rolled products from 13,0 to 13,1 million tons per year.

    It's not entirely clear over what period of time these resources increased? Over a year? Over a month? Since 1913? This is all strange, considering that in 1913, 4.2 million tons of steel were smelted in the Russian Empire, while, for example, 17.7 million tons were produced in 1937. Rolled steel was produced at 0.15 million tons in 1920, while in 1937 it was 13 million tons.