Voenkor Sladkov expressed his opinion on the prospects for the participation of conscripts in the SVO

Voenkor Alexander Sladkov expressed his opinion about the possibility of participation of Russian military conscripts in the NVO in Ukraine.

Recall that even at the beginning of the special operation, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that conscripts would not take part in it. As a matter of fact, it is so to this day.

Meanwhile, various experts from time to time discuss this topic and express their pros and cons of sending conscripts to Ukraine. So, literally at the beginning of January, TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov made a call to allow conscripts to participate in hostilities.

In general, military commander Alexander Sladkov is not against such an initiative, as he wrote in his TG channel.

According to the expert, it is necessary to return a set of conscripts to the special forces, as well as airborne and infantry regiments. Of these, then replenish military units in the NWO.

In addition, the military correspondent believes that it would be possible to conclude a contract with volunteer conscripts in their 12th month of service. As Sladkov put it, many of today's young guys are ideological and want to defend their homeland, just as in the days of his youth every third young man wanted to go to fight for his country in Afghanistan.

At the same time, according to the military correspondent, the hypothetical sending of conscripts to Ukraine “according to the list” is not the best idea.

Comments

[Trapp1st]

So it seems like you can send conscripts to war, after 3 months of service draw up contracts and send as much as it says in the plan.

[Smoker]

There is some nonsense in the article ...
type:
In addition, the military correspondent believes that it would be possible to conclude a contract with volunteer conscripts in their 12th month of service.
to vomit ... so now they’ll only be called up and voluntarily forcibly stick the contract under their noses ... the guy went like that in the fall of 21 for an urgent term - one of the first came in the Kharkov direction - zero skills, managed to get lost, couldn’t set up the radio, fell under the distribution - now still on treatment ... disabled

and this is what the text says:
as in the days of his youth, every third young man wanted to go to fight for his country in Afghanistan.
What nonsense!!!

[invisible_man]

Both sons of Solovyov live in London, where they studied. The older one works as a fashion model and looks like a walking gay club. Doesn't he want to involve them in participation in the SVO?
PS Below is a picture posted)

[Cananecat]

The son of propagandist Vladimir Solovyov signed the contract.

But not with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation or PMC Wagner, but with the modeling agency CONTORA Lisovets.

So what did you want from a Jewish boy? Why did he go to the IDF?

[Alexander_Landa]

And you are laughing in vain, for example, with a number of my acquaintances who left for the promised land after 24, together with children of military age, the sons went to serve in the IDF upon arrival.

[Aviator_]

upon arrival, the sons left to serve in the IDF.

And where should they go? In Israel, a person who has not served is a second-class person.

[Alexander Soviet Union]

What is the meaning of the post? I don't understand this and others like them. Are you suggesting that everyone look up to the sons of Solovyov? Or they agree to volunteer, but after the sons of well-known propagandists, deputies, etc. go to the NVO. And immediately patriotic feelings will wake up in you? - Hell no! Learn to ask yourself first! And then nod to others.
"If they were, like you all - mouth-watering,
To stay from Moscow, from Russia "(c)

[invisible_man]

You are not a political officer, are you? Painfully familiar grips.
I personally do not quite understand why during the war with the European Union, those who call for patriotism and incite hatred for the European Union themselves own real estate in the countries of this European Union, and their children wiggle their asses on the English catwalks.

[Roma 1977]

England is not part of the European Union, kagbe. That is, it is kosher to wag your booty there.

[invisible_man]

Right, how did I forget? This fundamentally changes the matter))

[runway-1]

You are not a political officer, are you? It hurts so familiar

Konstantin! Rhetorical question?!
After all, this typical trolling phrase is well known:

Learn to ask yourself first! And then nod to others

[Magnat231]

And your education does not allow you to understand, the main thing for you is to throw a fan on, this has already been refuted, and they also correctly told you that you need to start with yourself, and not look at someone, and for the especially gifted, I narrowed it down to the PV KGB of the USSR, and really wrote a report that they would take to Afghanistan

[Ed1970]

And if everyone goes to the front and Solovyov remains, somehow the idea is not a very good one.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Yes, whose cow would moo, and Solovyov's would be silent!

[fif21]

Quote from invisible_man

Both sons of Solovyov live in London, where they studied

And where does the son not Dimona live? And if you announce a list of smaller officials whose children live in the west and are even citizens of countries that are enemies of the Russian Federation?

[MrTulandra]

As Comrade Stalin used to say - "A father is not responsible for his son"

[Expert]

Stalin's children fought, actually.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Smoker

and this is what the text says:
as in the days of his youth, every third young man wanted to go to fight for his country in Afghanistan.
What nonsense!!!

This is not nonsense. And so it was. At the mandate in the border detachment, there was no end to those who wanted to serve in the mangroup on the other side. They were upset when the commission rejected and left to serve in the detachment. And when they already served there across the river, the most shameful punishment for us was sending us to serve in the Union.

[The black]

There is some nonsense in the article ...

Agree. Complete. Now any conscript, if he expresses a voluntary desire, after the course of a young fighter and taking the oath, he can immediately sign a contract .... and now he is no longer a conscript

[Cananecat]

Quote: Black

Now any conscript, if he expresses a voluntary desire,

Voluntary desire should be quoted, and how many fathers, not to mention mothers, want to send their children into submission to those who "command" under Ugledar?

[Alexander Soviet Union]

Afghanistan did not. But there was an opportunity to go to serve in Nagorno-Karabakh in 91. More than half of our platoon requested, but only two were taken.
People are different now. Not all of course, but many are spoiled and weak in spirit. The West knocked us down, morally decomposed for many years that we walked along the "democratic" path.

[invisible_man]

But now there is an unprecedented rise in patriotism. Especially in United Russia. Whoever you take - either a villa in Spain, or children in foreign universities. Moscow State University, MGIMO and Bauman are no longer satisfied.

[Cycle boss]

You're right. In this case, if such an opportunity is given, it is necessary to draw up through dismissal from military service, then only a contract. Complicate the process. And yes, in 2000 they were sent to the Caucasus voluntarily forcibly. First, for a contract, and upon arrival at the PPD, again for an urgent one. And all the money they earned was confiscated. So you have to be careful with this.

[smart ass]

Do not forget that in 1979 the USSR army is at the peak of its power, in fact it is a force that has no equal

[Expert]

Not only the army, but also the economy, for that matter.

[lubesky]

So, literally at the beginning of January, TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov made a call to allow conscripts to participate in hostilities.

Will his son's model from the London catwalk also go for an urgent appointment, and then to the NWO zone?

[Nexcom]

Exclusively in terms of logistics. Although there Svidomites can cover with shelling. Uncle Trampoline was not regretted at all - an anniversary is not an anniversary. They called on them and everything. Covered. Uncle then received a lot of treatment, sent fragments to his foreign friends - like, lads, foreign sho svidomites practice ....

[Alf]

Quote: lubesky

So, literally at the beginning of January, TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov made a call to allow conscripts to participate in hostilities.

Will his son's model from the London catwalk also go for an urgent appointment, and then to the NWO zone?

How dare you, this is the son of the main propagandist ... True, his appearance and place of work are so p-stic ...

[lubesky]

Quote: Alf

How dare you

Forgive my colleague, fingers are faster than the brain - I myself already realized that THIS is different ... And "this" in every sense of the context

[Alf]

Quote: lubesky

Quote: Alf

How dare you

Forgive my colleague, fingers are faster than the brain - I myself already realized that THIS is different ... And "this" in every sense of the context

Come on ... Now I'll shuffle my foot ... But here, which is typical, the minusers have already shown up .... I'll correct it.

[Arzoo]

There were leaders in our history whose sons died in the war. And now ... Shrinking.

[vietnam7]

Well, read about the case of the Kremlin children, at all times there are heroes, there are weak people.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Arzoo

There were leaders in our history whose sons died in the war. And now ... Shrinking.

We are not shrinking, but they are! How many of them can tell the whole country that his child went to CBO BY ITSELF?!

[Xnumx vis]

What can a conscript soldier who has served two months be able and know? Yes, and half a year, too? After a year and a half of service, the young man becomes a warrior.

[Expert]

Are you saying this based on your personal experience of serving in the Russian army?

[Commissioner_Wolf]

It is possible to prepare a wonderful fighter in a year, the main thing is that he be busy with combat training, and not with candling, household work, sweeping the parade ground and eternal training for a drill review ..... oh yes, and photo reports.

DMB 20-21. KMB is completely drill and household work, only 3 rounds at the final (From the point of view of combat training for 2 months, this is a complete zero and even a minus)
The rest of the year, nothing changed (Well, except that we were allowed to undermine at night and arrange night memorization of the charter and quality)

Many may say: - Oh, it was worse in our time ... they mocked us more abruptly .... we taught the charter in the pose of the Kama Sutra of the 80s.
Well, actually this culture (the culture of outright garbage and not military service) killed us

[BorzRio]

I don't think there will be many people among 19-20 year olds who want to go to the slaughter. Unfortunately, this is the reality of our state. The absence of any patriotic ideology and trends, the sweet peaceful life with iPhones and other things has changed our youth during these "Russian years".

[Trapp1st]

I don't think there will be many people among 19-20 year olds who want to go to the slaughter.

Who will ask?

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

After such an approach, the authorities will receive new demonstrations of protests, trials and showdowns with committees of soldiers' mothers. Serve and even more so fight should be those who are prone to violence or can no longer get a normal life. Everyone else, believe me, there is something to do. In principle, there should not be conscripts in the army at all. They are not able to fight, so why waste billions on them.

[Trapp1st]

After such an approach, the authorities will receive new demonstrations of protests, trials and showdowns with committees of soldiers' mothers.

Does the example of one neighboring country mean anything to you?

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Are you talking about Germany? Or about whom? Or about Ukrainians? There are many neighboring countries and plenty of examples.

[Pulkovo1942]

so why waste billions on them.

So you answered the question of why urgent service is needed in a country without ideology) Only billions are not spent in vain, where they need to - they settle there

[Alf]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

In principle, there should not be conscripts in the army at all.

And where to get a reserve in case of losses?

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

And what does your reserve give if the conscripts do not know how to demobilize, and during mobilization they have to be taught from scratch. In addition, do not forget that with the existing idea of ​​\u80b\u949bbuilding the Armed Forces, all positions that require a little bit of education are occupied by officers. They have it there, for example, the crew of the nuclear submarine is 20℅ of privates, while ours is 3a 4℅ percent. And what for do we have a mobre reserve? They recruited and trained for XNUMX-XNUMX months. The past mobilization put everything in its place.

[Alf]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

And what does your reserve give if conscripts do not know how to demobilize

And this is a question for the Training System.

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

In addition, do not forget that with the existing idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbbuilding the Armed Forces, all positions that require a little bit of education are occupied by officers.

That is, officers are now running around with machine guns in the war?

[Lako]

You made the wrong thread. You are in a society of cosmohumanism or a club for the protection of wildlife. There, for sure, there are no people prone to violence.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Not at all. The army, like any profession, requires inclination and mental readiness for certain actions. If you choose war, then you either must have an inclination for this, or the UPU has no other choice. It is not for nothing that members of street gangs or the lower strata of the population who are not suitable for skilled labor are recruited into the army in the United States.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Sorry, but you are confusing the army and the gang.
Soviet the army has been chasing Bandera gangs for more than one year.
Both those and others with weapons, but the ideology is completely different. Incompatible.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

Serve and even more so fight should be those who are prone to violence or can no longer get a normal life.

Oh-wei,.. You just accused almost the entire population of one Middle Eastern state of being prone to violence and inability to settle down.

[Essex62]

And this pseudo output has no. There are few people, you will relax, you will only start to shave those who are prone to violence, the neighbors will devour it instantly.
I wonder why the main enemy is able to carry out the tasks assigned by the contract army?

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

If we talk about the Jews, then it is high time for us to plow Europe with atomic bombing and sprinkle with dust. By the way, so is Israel.
But about the contract army, yes. Therefore, I say that we do not need conscripts categorically.
By the way, the formation of Israel began with the massacre of the Arabs in the territory that the new Jews looked after themselves.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Essex62

I wonder why the main enemy is able to carry out the tasks assigned by the contract army?

Because this enemy has "babloism" - generally accepted religion.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Essex62

I wonder why the main enemy is able to carry out the tasks assigned by the contract army?

But it doesn’t work out.
The contract army is good for conflicts of low and medium intensity. As soon as a large batch is planned - like two Iraqs - then a purely contract army begins to be missed. And then the second component of the US Armed Forces comes into action - the National Guard, aka the "weekend army" or One weekend a month, two weeks a year. Moreover, the number of mobilized the war carrying democracy in the citadel of this democracy can be measured in hundreds of thousands - under almost universal approval.
Just a contract army is always on the front pages of the central media. And the National Guard usually stands in its shadow - this is news at the level of a particular state, from which the connection has left.

[Negro]

Quote: Alexey RA

Just a contract army is always on the front pages of the central media. And the National Guard usually stands in its shadow - this is news at the level of a particular state from which the connection has left

Not only.

The Americans, unlike a number of others, understand what the front and field units should do. Therefore, no flow of coffins of Vietnam-style conscripts has been observed since then.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Negro

The Americans, unlike a number of others, understand what the front and field units should do. Therefore, no flow of coffins of Vietnam-style conscripts has been observed since then.

And this despite the fact that the National Guard dragged along with the regulars - in the same Baghdad. She even marked herself in the battles for Fallujah.

[Negro]

Quote: Alexey RA

She even marked herself in the battles for Fallujah.

Specifically, the aviation wing and a company of engineers.

[Dilettante grandfather]

After such an approach, the authorities will receive new demonstrations of protests, trials and showdowns with committees of soldiers' mothers.

It is high time to disperse the Committees of Soldiers' Mothers. The army was brought to the handle and with their help as well. At the age of 18, a young man is considered an adult, and mothers should not run after their children and change their diapers.

Serve and even more so fight should be those who are prone to violence or can no longer get a normal life. Everyone else, believe me, there is something to do. There should be no conscripts in the army in principle

Everyone should serve the Motherland. Without exception. To those who do not want to do this, we must say goodbye, and let them go even to Germany, even to Australia, because if a person does not want to serve his country, then he should not remain its citizen. And the propensity for violence has nothing to do with it. Everyone is obliged to stand up for the defense of the Motherland, if the need arises. Every man must be able to defend his country, his relatives and friends in case of war. And if he doesn’t know which end to approach the machine, what kind of defender is he?

[SARMAT123]

I fully support!!! I wanted to write the same thing, lit snot. 18 years is still a "child" This is a man of full age. That is, a man 40+ with bellies should, and conscripts are children)))

[Epaulettes]

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

Everyone should serve the Motherland. Without exception

There are many ways to serve the Motherland. For example, in the alternative civilian service.

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

To those who do not want to do this, they must say goodbye, and let them go even to Germany, even to Australia, because if a person does not want to serve his country, then he should not remain its citizen

Well, yes, let them go to work for the enemy economy, since they don’t want to take a machine gun in their hands and go to die. Right? There is no way to leave these people alone, not to pull them to war, where they will die within a month EVERYTHING. Let them work better for the RUSSIAN economy than die under shelling without any benefit.

[Epaulettes]

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

Every man must be able to defend his country, his relatives and friends in case of war. And if he doesn’t know which end to approach the machine, what kind of defender is he?

It's actually funny here. What state has grown out of him - such is he and the defender. Or do you not know that for self-defense you can sit in the zone for such a non-sour period? And the state did nothing to fix it. Killed the attacker? You shouldn't have any questions at all. And we have instead - on the zone.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

You can serve your homeland anywhere, but those who like it should fight.

[Negro]

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

To those who do not want to do this, we must say goodbye, and let them go at least to Germany, at least to Australia

OK.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

After such an approach, the authorities will receive new demonstrations of protests, trials and showdowns with committees of soldiers' mothers.

What "this approach"? Have you even read the article? So far, everything is offered on a voluntary basis. But these proposals, like the article, are about nothing, because now this is exactly how everything is done. Voluntarily sign a contract after 12 months of service and go ahead.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Do you know how to read letters? The approach is like they wrote here "where will they go?".

[Dedok]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

They are not able to fight, so why waste billions on them.

and now, these billions are being spent for their intended purpose?
it’s too early for them to fight, they didn’t live and were brought up in the conditions of the 30s, they are not ready, the psychological consequences are unpredictable

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Yes, it is difficult with you who are not literate. Although, evening has come, beer, vodka, letters are floating, the firebrand is not working.

[single-n]

Serve and even more so fight should be those who are prone to violence or can no longer get a normal life

And so they drove the fathers of families and active workers to the war. Or are all 300 thousand mobiles from those categories that you listed?

There should be no conscripts in the army in principle

In the world of pink ponies, yes. But as soon as serious wars begin, all these teams of super-duper professionals instantly multiply by zero. At best, they become the basis for the deployment of mass armies. Our SVO in terms of the number of troops is a petty mess against the backdrop of WWI or WWII, even the Napoleonic wars. But on both sides the professional unit of the army either ended or was unable to conduct large-scale operations. Ukraine than stopped the RF Armed Forces a year ago? Those very yesterday's conscripts, of which in a matter of weeks they created an army. And from whom will you collect an army? From a herd of civilians to whom to give a stick that an automatic machine, one vegetable, the result is the same.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

That's when you have to sit and be silent in a rag or an army in a couple - three million contract soldiers to have. And the first is preferable. Then it will not be necessary to call a herd of mobikov.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

That's when you have to sit and be silent in a rag or an army in a couple - three million contract soldiers to have.

There is a third option - to carry out advance processing of the population - so. that conscription and sending to war be considered an act of patriotism. And all those who opposed the war were considered accomplices of dictators and enemies of democracy.
And then you can safely dilute the contract army with mobilized ones in a ratio of almost 1: 1. And let through the hot spots a total of 300 yesterday's civilians.

[Negro]

Quote: Alexey RA

There is a third option - to carry out advance processing of the population - so. that conscription and sending to war be considered an act of patriotism. And all those who opposed the war were considered accomplices of dictators and enemies of democracy.

What country is this about? It's hard to remember something like that.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Negro

What country is this about?

Yes, about the same one that fought against world terrorism in Afghanistan and with weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

[Negro]

Quote: Alexey RA

Yes, about the same one that fought against world terrorism in Afghanistan and with weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Quote: Alexey RA

carry out advance processing of the population - so. that conscription and sending to war be considered an act of patriotism. And all those who opposed the war were considered accomplices of dictators and enemies of democracy.

If there is a hint of the United States, then there are many people who put their lives on the fight against the American military. At the same time, former children Olympics 80 flowers get to the White House every other time, not like Congress.

[Alf]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

In principle, there should not be conscripts in the army at all. They are unable to fight

The recruitment of the Israeli Armed Forces is carried out on the basis of the Law on Compulsory Conscription by Conscription; persons who have voluntarily signed a contract with the country's Ministry of Defense are also accepted for service. It applies to citizens of the Jewish state and permanent residents of the country who have reached the age of 18 (including those who have dual citizenship and live in another state). Men aged 18 to 29 and unmarried women aged 18 to 26 are subject to conscription for military service.

And they have been fighting since 1949. And they fight well, since the neighbors have not yet devoured.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Alf

And they have been fighting since 1949. And they fight well, since the neighbors have not yet devoured.

Come on with him, with Israel. The citadel of democracy itself, a shining city on a hill, quietly let 300 mobilized through Iraq and Afghanistan, managing to dilute professional contract soldiers with them in a ratio of 000:1.

[Alf]

Quote: Alexey RA

The citadel of democracy itself, a shining city on a hill, quietly let 300 mobilized through Iraq and Afghanistan, managing to dilute professional contract soldiers with them in a ratio of 000:1.

"It's different."

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

Serve and even more so fight should be those who are prone to violence or can no longer get a normal life.

Type socially dangerous dregs of society. After this comment, I thought, why do a lot of people who allow themselves such comments about the army in general and about our army write them anonymously, but in uniform of the Russian army? If you take a screenshot and publish such comments on the blog, who will climb to check what these shoulder straps mean? They will assume that the lieutenants and generals of the Russian army write something like this in the comments ... Would they come up with other pictures for rating ratings, or something.

[dmi.pris1]

From the very quarantine, conscripts are being processed about the contract. I don’t know if there will be many applicants. But there will be naturally more against. The result of the lack of ideology, patriotic education

[single-n]

And a bunch of mothers. Remember Chechen. How many people otmazyvalis all ways? And here everything is much more serious.

[Commissioner_Wolf]

Contract = Slavery. It is these conclusions that the conscripts make after a year of Service ..... oh ...... Household work, edging, and square snowdrifts. One drill review is worth what, oh oh oh, the entire defense capability of the country depends on it.

[RED_ICE]

Quote: Trapp1st

I don't think there will be many people among 19-20 year olds who want to go to the slaughter.

Who will ask?

Forget, the days of Chechnya are over.

[Nastia makarova]

they go enough to the contract and to the NWO, they convince, well, the bulk goes for money, they will never earn so much in civilian life and therefore they go to the contract

[Trapp1st]

in civilian life they will never earn so much

Yes, are you serious now? For a healthy guy with a head of 100k-200k, is this money worth dying for?)))

[Grits]

Quote: Trapp1st

For a healthy guy with a head of 100k-200k, is that money to die for?

For a healthy guy in our country, you still need to look for a job that pays that kind of money. Although, if you are from Moscow, then I understand you ...

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Gritsa

For a healthy guy in our country, you still need to look for a job that pays that kind of money. Although, if you are from Moscow, then I understand you ...

What good is that money if you can't use it?
Better to get 40k and live your life than 200k and half a year.

[Alf]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

Better to get 40k and live your life than 200k and half a year.

Right. Let someone else fight...

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

That's it. There are those who are superfluous in civilian life and are not able to arrange themselves or the level of aggression is high.

[Essex62]

So, apart from the residents of Moscow and St. Petersburg, we have, well, maybe two or three more millionaires, all of them are so "superfluous".

Nastya, they went to the contract for the loot with joy, when there was no database, now they get into the contract for mobilization. Two big differences.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

On mobilization, they do not get a contract. Mobs get 200 in any case. Many times more than a regular officer or contract soldier.

[Sergey250455]

My son's driver left the salary of 100k. Also, the child is disabled. And he is 40 years old. He said: "We must defend the Motherland."

[Alf]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

enough go to the contract and in the NWO,

And the term "five-hundred" sparkled with new colors ...

[your vsr 66-67]

They will serve urgent, learn how to handle weapons, and those who want to go ahead! To contract service! And you can't send them all!

[Krivobokoff]

Of course not. What kind of army is this that participates in the database, the army is not for this at all

[Arzoo]

Of course not. What kind of army is this that participates in the database, the army is not for this at all

I completely agree. This is not what the army was created for. Who then will march at the parade?

[your vsr 66-67]

Quote from Krivobokoff

Of course not. What kind of army is this that participates in the database, the army is not for this at all

What kind of army??? What can you teach an unintelligent 18-year-old boy who has not yet come off his mother's tits in a year! At least look around you at these guys of military age! During my service, the draft was once a year and from the age of 19. I was called up at the age of 19,5, and even the first year of service was all a curiosity, and we rejoiced at every new discovery in the army! And believe me, we were not driven by a drill, all the time went to training. In the morning 7 lessons in classes, lunch, personal time 45 minutes and back to classes for self-study!
And now you call these 18-year-old boys an army!

[wladimirjankov]

Everything can be taught if taught for real. And now 18 year olds are not the same as they were 70 years ago. They know and can do more. And do not make them mother's sons. 18-19 year olds went through afghanistan and chechnya and georgia with dignity. And they took the main blow in the Second World War.

[Geosun]

Naturally not for this. Do you propose to send to the front line those who have just learned how to take revenge and paint fences?
The army must be professional and only trained can be sent into battle.

[single-n]

And so they drove those who served 10 years ago. Official replacement. And if our army can only take revenge, then what difference does it make when and how many people served.

[Grits]

Quote from Krivobokoff

Of course not. What kind of army is this that participates in the database, the army is not for this at all

The decision on 1 year term led to the fact that at the beginning of the NWO, we all suddenly found out that we, it turns out, do not have an army.

[Dedok]

Quote: Gritsa

The decision on 1 year term led to the fact that at the beginning of the NWO, we all suddenly found out that we, it turns out, do not have an army.

no, it wasn’t like that: it was D.A.M.’s Decision. about creating a professional army!

[Commissioner_Wolf]

Wagner will not let you lie, you can train a great fighter in a year, you just need to learn how to fight and not grind the parade ground and prepare for the drill review the rest of the time.

[Bingo]

Quote: your vsr 66-67

They will serve urgent, learn how to handle weapons, and those who want to go ahead!

In-in. After a year - still back and forth, at least they will learn something in theory, where to send them after the KMB, and it doesn’t burn for the time being - Guderian’s tanks don’t shy away in crowds across Russia, what for these cries about military rails and general mobilization ?! They don’t even understand that if the West is pushing us hard towards this, then this is clearly in HIS interests and not in OURS.

[Trapp1st]

what for these cries about military rails and general mobilization?!

So that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

[Pulkovo1942]

Russian Federation Vladimir Putin said that conscripts will not take part in it

The funny thing is that the Kherson, Zaporozhye regions and the LDNR are officially Russia (on paper), but there are no conscripts from the regions. This duality has not brought to good and will not.

the hypothetical sending of conscripts to Ukraine “according to the list” is not the best idea

Why, then, in Russia, urgent service, if some can be torn away from families and work, while others cannot.

[Nexcom]

And no one was taken away from our bosses - they all abruptly rushed to Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan on long business trips. Yeah. No, how would you like it differently? And they took ordinary workers. Everything is as it should be for filthy liberals.

Threat you, filthy liberda, minus more. I am telling the truth. All our employees know this. but swell ssyklyvo - either thrown out of retirement or fired (depending on age). what really hurts your eyes?

[agoran]

I'll tell a story. My youngest son had an acquaintance, he got out of the army on the "head" / Mine served a year under St. Petersburg, everything is fine. But his friend started having problems. They don’t give a medical certificate for rights, you can’t get a hunting permit, they don’t take it to the police and collection ..
Now he works as a loader in the store Mt.

[Dedok]

Quote: agoran

my youngest son had an acquaintance, got off the army on the "head"

so on the head and sick - if they do not understand the consequences

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Well, it looks like the son of acquaintances has no education at all. Is it not fate to get a higher education and work normally? Or just work fine? In short, excuses are bullshit.

[Former soldier]

Why, then, in Russia, urgent service, if some can be torn away from families and work, while others cannot.

What about thinking? Why in 41g. mobilization began with the age limit of 35-45 years? Yes, because most men by this age already had children and not one at a time. My grandfather was mobilized in the first week of the war. He was 36 years old and had 6 children. The eldest daughter was 13 years old.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Former soldier

What about thinking? Why in 41g. mobilization began with the age limit of 35-45 years? Yes, because most men by this age already had children and not one at a time. My grandfather was mobilized in the first week of the war. He was 36 years old and had 6 children. The eldest daughter was 13 years old.

You are not right. From June 23, 1941, those liable for military service from 1905 to 1918 inclusive were drafted into the army. i.e. from 23 to 36 years old, here your grandfather is included in the category, and those who are younger - basically they were already in the army, but over 36 they began to call up by the end of 41 - and even then not massively .. the main part of the elders since 1942 they were called up, and many were left in production ....

[Stirbjorn]

just like in the days of his youth, every third young man wanted to go to fight for his country in Afghanistan

Did you grow up among amateurs?! Letov's poems come to mind
"We're in the thirteenth car.
Lubera, stay out!
Strengthen your ranks
Protect Afghanistan."

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

So let the lovers go to the service. There are few such scumbags among normal adequate people. And thank God.

[Lako]

No, not a society of cosmohumanism - the Institute of Noble Maidens. That's it.

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: lubesky

Will his son's model from the London catwalk also go for an urgent appointment, and then to the NWO zone?

So he himself (Shapiro-Soloviev) can be called upon.
Put together a DShB from this small-town glamour, and dump them in their Galliano and Versace directly to Kyiv.
Let them rage there with their tongues without bones, until the Bandera people themselves run away from the blizzard that they carry on our TV and radio.

[Mavrikiy]

According to the expert, it is necessary to return a set of conscripts to the special forces, as well as airborne and infantry regiments.

Sladkov to the special forces under the contract and Solovyov to the ensign around his neck to drive ..

[Nexcom]

Well said - a trump warrant officer will turn out from Solovyov.
It is the ensign - no higher.

[Denis812]

It seems to me that conscripts may well take part in the SVO if they want.

Only the question should be put differently - and NEEDED Is this particular conscript on the line of contact?
Is it helpful there? Or will the conscript only devour resources for training and so on?
If so, then you don't need to. It’s better to let the conscript study in a training school or somewhere else, and then, if he is still ready, then super, they will be happy to see him at the front.

And secondly, they are all different conscripts. There were guys in my platoon with whom you would go on reconnaissance and whom there was no trust. Not because they are bad guys, but it's just not theirs. There is no inner core.
Someone can run from the age of 16 with a machine gun and cut their throats with a knife, but someone can’t. Not because he is a bad person, but because people are different.

So I would suggest that conscripts be given the opportunity to serve in the LBS, but after preparation and verification.

[Former soldier]

in early January, TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov made a call to allow conscripts to participate in hostilities.

To ban conscripts to participate in hostilities. TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov apparently blurted out without thinking. It's not about patriotism, but about the demographics of Russia.

[spirit]

As Sladkov put it, many of today's young guys are ideological and want to defend their homeland, just like in the days of his youth

All modern guys now have a gadget and the Internet where they get information, and most of them don’t watch either your or Solovyov’s programs with invited propaganda *** and these people see the attitude of the authorities and the “Baranov” generals who, after a year of operation, send soldiers to be slaughtered in frontal attacks. So there will be few who wish, it is the reluctance and noise that can rise and shake that decrepit chair of "Caesar" that does not allow it to be done. So everyone would have been sent a long time ago.

[Lako]

Solodenko, what are you? And I didn’t spiznav toby right away. And nazvivistko replacing. Are you getting married?

[cash]

Well, actually, conscripts with border guards, together with pigs, already fought off the Belgorod region last autumn and winter, it’s strange that they didn’t talk about it much

[Dedok]

Quote from kasy

Well, actually, conscripts with border guards, together with pigs, already fought off the Belgorod region last autumn and winter

so that's another story...

[cash]

this is a question of attracting conscripts to the war, they are already fighting

[withoutreverse]

It would be necessary to have a special battalion from the children of the Kremlin, and to recruit the rest of the bureaucrats .. so to speak, the color of the nation

[Nexcom]

Previously, it was not zapad. Frunze's son died in battle, Mikoyan's son too. The sons of the entire top fought then. And now they are sitting in the bushes.

[Knell wardenheart]

We have everything, there are no personnel officers in the rear? Let's dilute the rear units with conscripts - this is much better than throwing yesterday's children to the front. And so a certain number of military men will be released by choice and vocation, with experience, etc.

[wladimirjankov]

War is always the work of the young, the healthy and the motivated, not the old. Bandera's "children of yesterday" are fighting and fighting not badly. Why are ours worse? Not made by that, or what? Young people endure all the hardships and hardships better, and they have health and enough anger. For whom is it easier and easier to load, carry and bring 50 kg shells to the guns or sit in water and mud filled and frozen trenches, dugouts, young and healthy people or age mobilized with their radiculitis, chondrosis and other sores?

[Epaulettes]

I wonder why there are so many on the site who want to resume mobilization, and at the same time there are so few supporters of conscripts being sent to the NWO?

After all, no one says that conscripts are needed there from the first day. No.

A month - KMB, half a year - training, and for 5 months - in the NWO. And then either on a contract or home. The next conscripts will arrive there.

[Knell wardenheart]

Mobilization affects mainly people over 20-25+ and mostly (so far) serving. These people already have life experience, they know their worth (most), and a significant part of them have already left offspring in case of death.
And a "conscript" is yesterday's child, without life experience, self-knowledge, offspring, etc. The hormone is still playing and all these tricky things with maximalism and emotions.
I don't think it would be a good idea to focus on this group. No one will give normal weapons to conscripts (I mean an array of modern ones), but with the obsolete that now in abundance they objectively won’t fight much, and the losses will be higher than those of an older contingent.
The social consequences of such losses would be enormous.

[Ghost1]

And why do we need urgent service if you think there are "children", then let's not have a year of the army, but open a pioneer camp for a year.
It's strange you say that men who listened 10 or more years ago, they are better versed in weapons and remember everything. Yes, they do not need all this after family life.

[Knell wardenheart]

And why do we need urgent service then?

In no post here I praise the "conscription service", moreover, I think that this is an anachronism. The future belongs to highly professional forces, and to equip and equip arrays of conscripts so that they can compete with professional military machines - any economy will overstrain.
In the days of the Third Reich, there were no such cool stray items that dramatically increased the individual qualities of fighters as expensive equipment protecting against fragmentation, thermal imagers, mini-UAVs, and so on. The conditional "lapotnik" with a rifle, although inferior to the conditional veteran with a rifle, but this separation was not so terriblewhat he is now.
The era of "conscripts", given the fact that our demographics have been breaking through the bottom for many years, is gone. 140 million people, of which 41 are pensioners and 25 children, do not give us the space to safely scatter human lives as we have done for centuries. With the exception of "formally non-bloc" Japan, all our neighbors with whom a hypothetical military conflict may arise - surpass us in terms of available demographic resources (including in blocks) - head and shoulders. What was not (or was conditional parity) in the days of the USSR with ITS attitude to mobilization and conscription.
That's it, this is a new reality, monsieur - we can either continue to play these moss-covered games in which a shaved kid is considered to be "defenders", or take off the peepers and catch that we live in an era of PROFESSIONALS, powerful industry and high-precision weapons.

I believe that the Military is a vocation, and it is better to focus resources on these people and their needs, and not on the hopes that "in which case" the kid will take out "like old", and then the women will give birth.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

The service life should be increased to 3 years, this is my personal opinion. You don’t need to row everyone in a row, only the highest category plus contractors, but for 5 years. Upon transfer to the reserve, payment at any university in the country, EDV, say, for 6-12 months. For conscripts, payment to the university, but selectively or any, but not 100%.

[agoran]

It seems that there was infa that there will be certain privileges for participants in the SVO when entering a university.

[Sergej1972]

Why pay when we have a large number of budget places? The system of higher education has expanded so much over the past decades that even with a large number of paid employees, state employees annually recruit more than they recruited by competition in the universities of the RSFSR.

[agoran]

What?
Competition Ryazan Airborne Forces School more than 6 people per place.

[Sergej1972]

Clarification for those who do not understand. Instead of paying for tuition, it is necessary to provide state-funded places on a priority basis.

[APASUS]

Knowing our ambiguous recruiting system, I would not recommend recruiting conscripts for the war. FROM each must be consent, certified by a civil notary as a MINIMUM.
I somehow went to sign papers at the military enlistment office before work and ended up at 10 day training camps, after half an hour

[agoran]

Tell me, it's very interesting. We have (collection), if there was a direction, then this is for happiness.

[Mint Gingerbread]

Definitely, such sets should be only on a voluntary basis, without pressure on young people and forced fees. And then the old epaulets, according to past memory, will easily begin to pull.

[Yuri Y.]

We were not asked at the time. )) Hit means serve. And there is either Avgan or Germany.

[agoran]

No, I had men repaired from Central Asia, they asked everyone and if I agreed, I signed the document. No one was forced to.

[Reader 2013]

The conscript now went the wrong way, he doesn’t know how to build dachas for generals, a bad conscript, armless) can send
Maybe the National Guard can be retrained a little and give a grenade launcher to shoot, there are like 400 thousand of their personnel, money and for what they get

[sleepoi007]

Another nonsense! How will the people react.

[vladimir_unrecognized]

first you need to learn how to prepare conscripts not with drill on the parade ground, but with coordinated actions in battle using various weapons and not all in a row, but those who want to defend their fatherland, and let the rest walk in formation, sweep the parade ground for checking staff officers, but I almost forgot, but take off and who to prepare the train so that the boys are in vain they were not driven to slaughter for the sake of titles and orders, but those who will root for them as for their blood brothers

[agond]

In addition to inexperienced conscripts, there are experienced personnel in the country, for example, 0.65 million, licensed security guards who have the right to carry weapons, about 1 million police, FSIN 0.3 million, FSSP 0.07 million, Ministry of Emergency Situations 0.28 million. An incomplete list. There are over a million military pensioners, by the way, not every military the pensioner served an urgent call, but I wonder if there are such among the generals.

[Mol_18]

for example 0.65 million, licensed security guards with the right to carry weapons, about police 1 million, FSIN 0.3 million, FSSP 0.07 million, Ministry of Emergency Situations 0.28 million

, as far as I know, OMON and Sobr are actively fighting, police officers go on a voluntary basis, and the Ministry of Emergencies has a completely different profile, the opera needs someone who will fight crime, but they don’t touch the National Guard, for some reason, only if in exceptional cases. But in general, why use mobilized and conscripts at all if we have an army in law enforcement agencies. But the problem is that among them there are few tankers, artillerymen and so on.

[Sergej1972]

The National Guard takes the most active part in the NWO. By the way, OMON and SOBR are also part of the National Guard.

[Mol_18]

well, it just probably depends on the region, but everyone is actively fighting with the law enforcement system.

[Skorin]

While here they are "breaking spears" about the conscripts of the so-called. The "best people" on both sides of the conflict are quite cooperating, if not friendly at home ... they probably pity the poor compatriots who are at the forefront ... but they pity so, from afar, relaxed ...
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[wladimirjankov]

At the beginning of the special operation, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that conscripts would not take part in it

Of course you can say that. But then it turns out that the main part of the army cannot be involved in the NWO. This is explained by the fact that the conscripts do not know anything, do not understand and are completely unprepared either mentally or physically for military operations. It is as if inferior, incapable young people were recruited for military service, and who, moreover, are not taught anything in the army or are taught, but not that. And, consequently, it is better to mobilize and send 30-55 year old men to fight, many of whom have already forgotten how to hold a machine gun in their hands, let alone shoot it. Many people are not in good health. It is believed that in a month of so-called training and coordination, they will remember everything and become real soldiers capable of defeating any enemy. But the reality was not quite what they expected. Older men who have families, parents, children in civilian life, for many of whom they are the only breadwinners, are unlikely to take risks, climb on the rampage and stand to the last. This is confirmed by the composition of our exchanged prisoners. For some reason, most of them are of age. Also, the footage from the video about the obedient surrender and the murder of our 11 age-old mobilized military in Makiivka comes to mind. No matter what anyone says, but war is a matter of the young, healthy and motivated. So it has always been and always will be. Conscripts who have served six months or more will always be better prepared for war than mobilized ones, unless of course they are taught how they should and by whom they should. Do not walk every day on the drill parade ground, do not do chores in the unit and at the dachas of commanders, but study military affairs properly in the fields, at training grounds and modern classrooms. Short service life of 1 year. What prevents to increase it to 1.5 years. But not to use the army, consisting of conscripts, in the fighting to defend the country, this is absurd. Then why is such an army needed at all? To simply feed, clothe and support her at the expense of the country.
In the same Ukraine, the Nazis are fighting all the conscripts and contract soldiers and the mobilized, and they are doing it well. We can't do anything with them for a whole year. They hold on to every house, village, city and do not run. We grind everything, we grind, but we can’t grind.

[runway-1]

Quote: Trapp1st

So it seems like you can send conscripts to war, after 3 months of service draw up contracts and send as much as it says in the plan.

It is absolutely incomprehensible a large number of "minuses" to the commentary. We look at the law "On military duty and military service" (as amended and supplemented, entered into force on 13.10.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX):

Article 34

1. The contract on military service has the right to conclude:

military personnel whose previous military service contract expires;

conscripted military personnel who received higher education prior to conscription, as well as conscripted military servicemen who have served for at least three months;
...
2. Citizens (foreign citizens) over the age of 18 have the right to conclude the first contract for military service.

[egorMTG]

Quote: lubesky

So, literally at the beginning of January, TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov made a call to allow conscripts to participate in hostilities.

Will his son's model from the London catwalk also go for an urgent appointment, and then to the NWO zone?

- Hypocrisy and Lies - destroy Russia ... Sometimes it seems - you can't trust anyone! ...

[Shelest2000]

== TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov made a call to allow conscripts to participate in hostilities.==
But Solovyov does not want to send his son there? It would not hurt to send the sons of our Kremlin patriots too, to raise the level of patriotism! Or are they not taken as astronauts?
By the way, I noticed that the sons of many of these turbopatriots are rear-wheel drive. What does Mizulina have, what, here, and Solovyov ...
Coincidence? I don't think ... (c)