“Our soldiers have always been highly valued, but now they are few”: Romanian general claims problems in the country's army

After Romania joined NATO, the country's armed forces experienced chronic underfunding, which led to their virtual collapse.

Romanian politicians have brought the army to the point of impossibility to carry out the mission of protecting the country

- says General Eugen Badalan, who previously headed the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the state, on the pages of Defense Romania.

According to him, after joining the alliance, the country's authorities believed that now the concern for its protection is the business of NATO. It was assumed that the army will switch to new standards in two stages - the equipment will first become compatible with the combat systems of the allies, and then interchangeable:

But this did not happen, because the Romanian defense industry collapsed due to the actions of politicians.

As the general notes, formally the number of troops is 73 thousand people, but actually 50 thousand serve:

Some of our commanders are very well trained according to NATO standards, but they have no one to lead - there are too few soldiers.

According to the general, young Romanians do not join the army, since the salary in it is at the level of a maid's salary. An army officer with the rank of major receives 5000 lei [80,2 thousand rubles. at higher prices] as well as an elevator operator in Parliament.

Do you think that under these conditions the military profession is tempting?

the general asks rhetorically.

According to him, things are worse only in Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia, the Czech Republic and the Baltic states.

Romanian soldiers have always been highly valued. However, their shortage is enormous. The paradox is that in all theaters of military operations, soldiers, sergeants, officers who participated in various missions were extremely highly appreciated by all allied states

- the general notes.

Who and when highly appreciated the Romanian soldiers, Badalan does not specify.

Comments

[Murmur 55]

Yes, yes, they were "highly" appreciated, if not for the kindness of Stalin, then there would be no problems with Romania.

[dmi.pris1]

"" Russians to the Prut, Romanians to Seret ", in 1944 this saying went .. And they still remember the atrocities of the Romanians in the Kuban

[TIR]

So that the Italians could at least defeat someone, the Romanian army was created.
And in terms of security, they worry so much in vain. No wonder they say "dressed like Romanians" about ragged soldiers

[Alexander Salenko]

And not only there, but also in Voronezh and in the Crimea. But even sometimes humanity could be achieved from a Romanian rather than from a German, so there were all sorts of people, which united them all, they were terribly thieving. Major Hans Wels, who commanded the Romanians near Stalingrad, was taken prisoner, began to cooperate with us, tells how he arranged food among the Romanian subordinates, where only cabbage soup reached the soldiers in the soup.

[Hunter 2]

No one ever appreciated them, if it were not for the stab in the back to the Germans (for which Mihai received the Order of Victory), then there would be no such state.
According to the stories of the population of the former under the Romanian occupation, the poor ragamuffins who dragged everything they found were distinguished by cruelty. They are simply no warriors!
Well, near Stalingrad, a blow in the direction of the Romanian and Italian armies, which almost completely destroyed them, largely resolved the issue of encircling Paulus's army.

[Last centurion]

This is how he hints that he and his troops are not ready to die for ukrov. Probably they are being driven into PMC UWB with pendels

[Orange Bigg]

.“Our soldiers have always been highly valued, but now they are few”: Romanian general claims problems in the country’s army

If you don't praise yourself, no one will.

[Greg Miller]

Quote: Murmur 55

Yes, yes, they were "highly" appreciated, if not for the kindness of Stalin, then there would be no problems with Romania.

What are you talking about! The Romanian army was the strongest army in World War II! As the Romanians themselves say, that Hitler with them (Romanians) reached Stalingrad, and Stalin with them reached Berlin!

[withoutreverse]

Is that what it's called now? what could be more shameful than being a Romanian soldier??
Pot calls the kettle black)

[Paul Siebert]

The Germans especially appreciate the Romanian soldiers.
Ask Field Marshal Paulus.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Murmur 55

Yes, yes, they were "highly" appreciated, if not for the kindness of Stalin, then there would be no problems with Romania.

Romanian soldiers have always been highly valued.

The chief of staff of the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, General M. V. Alekseev, resolutely resisted the entry of Romania into the war, considering the Romanian army to be incapable of combat. In addition, Romania's neutrality created a buffer zone between southern Russia and the armies of the Central Powers. In the event of their victory in the new theater of operations, there was a threat to the southern Russian territories.
Hitler also spoke unflatteringly about the Romanians:
"Romania! If something happens to Antonescu now, who will take his place? I think about it with horror. The king is just a dirty pig... The Romanian peasant is an unfortunate beast...”
Hitler's fanaticism is understandable here: he clearly did not shine for anything good, like Germany as a whole, he only delayed the inevitable end. But the "minor" allies could try to "jump off". And after all, they jumped off, sometimes very successfully.
Estimates are very "high", but Hitler needed cannon fodder, and now the states.

[Trapp1st]

Our soldiers have always been highly valued

On Russian soil, the Romanian soldiers were appreciated, and only thanks to the universal generosity bordering on short-sightedness, the Romanians remained as a nation on earth. Even if he is about Hitler's assessment of the Romanian soldiers, then in his opinion this is a second-rate bunch. If you have the opportunity, remind General Eugene Badalan of their glory days.

[dmi.pris1]

The Romanian king was even awarded the Order of Victory. For what? Surrendered at the time ..

[lubesky]

Romanian soldiers have always been highly valued.

A? They were especially appreciated by the encircled 6th Army of Paulus

[Uncle lee]

young Romanians do not join the army

And who are they protecting themselves from? Or who to attack? - Turn off and pretend to be a rag - no one will notice ....

[paul3390]

Romanian soldiers have always been highly valued.

And the general is a humorist .. Did they appreciate the Romanians ?? The main debate has always been on the topic of who is more useless in military affairs - Romanians or Italians .. The battle for the last place ..

[Rinat Khametov]

My father fought in tank reconnaissance, including near Stalingrad .... I looked at the Romanians, they were not particularly taken prisoner, and the special officers looked at it through their fingers.
Well done among the sheep and among the good fellows and the sheep himself.
Romanians are slightly different from gypsies

[Sergej1972]

Just the Romanians were taken prisoner, and they themselves willingly surrendered. There were a lot of them in our captivity.

[Vic Vic]

Appreciated them .... perhaps, as the first marauders and sadists in relation to the civilian population

[Bingo]

Listen, I somehow missed this trend ... Is it really all the military recruited by KVNam in the West?

[Lumberjack_2]

But I didn’t understand where their famous cavalry troops are? Stole? they stole from the gypsies, even the chief there admitted that NATO still ruined everything there)))

[Eugene 62]

Romanian soldiers have always been highly valued. - Gee-gee-gee.
Here is what Moltke, Chief of the General Staff of Kaiser Germany, answered Kaiser Wilhelm's question about Romania:
“We don’t care, Your Majesty, on whose side Romania enters the war. If on ours, it will take 10 divisions to save it from defeat. If against us, the same 10 divisions will be needed to defeat it. But we will lose 10 divisions in anyway."

[Dart2027]

Quote: Eugen 62

Moltke to Kaiser Wilhelm's question about Romania

I immediately remembered this.

[rocket757]

“Our soldiers have always been highly valued, but now they are few”: Romanian general claims problems in the country's army

Ha, ha and again ha!!! I won’t even cite the statements of the German military, regarding the Romanian army, those statements EVERYONE KNOWS!

[Amateur]

about Magyar troops

Magyars is a nickname for Hungarians, not Romanians, however.

[rocket757]

I made a mistake ... somehow I put both of them in one basket.

[K-50]

“Our soldiers have always been highly valued, but now they are few”: Romanian general

Is this some kind of anecdote about the high value of mamalizhnikov as fighters?
As punishers, yes, they are capable of cooking. Like fighters - meat.

[Virus-free crown]

Who and when highly appreciated the Romanian soldiers, Badalan does not specify.

Hitler especially appreciated the quality of the Romanian troops - if you remove the mat, then there is nothing literary to say

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Our soldiers have always been highly valued

who and when?

[Konnick]

who and when?

Marshal of Artillery Voronov N.N., for example,

The next day, at one of the crossroads, I met a car with two Romanian officers and an interpreter. They came up to me and reproached me: our troops are moving too fast. For the first time in my life I met dandy royal officers with lined eyebrows and eyelashes, powdered and painted faces, and one of them even had a black fly on his cheek. Characters from the operetta, and more! I explained to them that the march of our troops is taking place in strict accordance with the plan approved by both sides. Soviet troops continued to move beyond the Dniester.

"He's kind of sugary. One word - Romanian ..."
Director Balabanov was also aware of who the Romanians were.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Konnick

Characters from the operetta, and more!

So who else? Silva Varescu and Mademoiselle Cucu, one word...

[1erWahrheitsMinister_1984]

Muss wohl wahr sein, denn sonst würde man sich ja
nicht die US-Ratten "einladen...!?


https://www.lessentiel.lu/de/story/wir-sind-darauf-vorbereitet-die-grenze-zur-ukraine-zu-ueberschreiten-198176039884

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: 1erWahrheitsMinister_1984

Muss wohl wahr sein, denn sonst würde man sich ja
nicht die US-Ratten "einladen...!?


https://www.lessentiel.lu/de/story/wir-sind-darauf-vorbereitet-die-grenze-zur-ukraine-zu-ueberschreiten-198176039884

I do not understand you. Sorry...
I came to a Russian-speaking resource, be kind enough to take care of at least a Yandex translator. Elementary courtesy, panimash ...

[smart ass]

Hitler especially appreciated the Romanians, the secondary sectors of the front could not be held

[Gomunkul]

“Our soldiers have always been highly valued, but now they are few”: Romanian general claims problems in the country's army

Here is an assessment of the Romanian army from its own during the storming of Odessa:

On the 20th of August, J. Antonescu and King Mihai arrived at the front near Odessa, hoping to enter the city in triumph, as winners. But, seeing that the situation was very far from victorious, the conductor became furious and indignant: “Isn’t it a shame that the army, 4-5 times superior to the enemy’s army in numerical terms, in the number of units and weapons, was disorganized and defeated by Soviet units . Instead of winning glory for itself, the army won shame ... I am ashamed of you in front of the people.
The German command clearly monitored the situation with Odessa. The diary of the Chief of the General Staff of the Wehrmacht Ground Forces F. Halder notes: “August 20. Odessa still continues to cause concern. Only one Romanian border division approached the northwestern outskirts of the city. It is still doubtful whether the Romanian command and its troops have matured to carry out such a task. “August 21 ... The Romanians believe that they will be able to occupy Odessa only at the beginning of September. It's too late. Without Odessa, we cannot capture the Crimea"

[Rage66]

Romanian soldiers have always been highly valued

Who and when specifically appreciated the Romanian soldiers. In Stalingrad alone, from 150 to 200 thousand people died. Near Odessa, in the battles for the Crimea - another 150.000 killed and wounded. Even after becoming allies of the USSR, the Romanians managed to put more than 20.000 soldiers in battles with the Nazis. Well, before the Second World War, I found only one mention of the Romanian military, and then - the border guards, who tore off the hundred thousandth fur coat from Ostap Bender

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Rage66

Well, before the Second World War, I found only one mention of the Romanian military, and then - the border guards, who tore off the hundred thousandth fur coat from Ostap Bender

Yes Yes! Right! I, too, when reading this news, immediately came to mind the cry: "Bran-zu-let-ka !!!"

[Vasyan1971]

According to him, things are worse only in Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia, the Czech Republic and the Baltic states.

So these are not soldiers, but overseers and punishers ...

[Grossvater]

Adolf Aloizych said about Romania: "If Romania ended the war on the same side on which it started, then she defected twice."
Grand Duke Nikolai Nikolayevich is credited with the following reasoning: “If Romania comes out on the side of Germany, we will need fifteen divisions to defeat it. If on the side of Russia, the same fifteen divisions to save it from defeat. In any case, Russia loses fifteen divisions "

[Fedor Rashkin]

Probably due to their value, and Paulus was surrounded ...
Even then, the German "colleagues" wrote that the Romanians could "successfully" hold the defense if the enemy did not advance

[EvilCommunist]

Gypsies were especially highly valued by Wehrmacht officers, for the fact that no one ever counted them and could be sent to slaughter in batches.

[Sergej1972]

Now, from memory, I do not have much to cite links. I really came across information, moreover, by domestic authors, that the Romanian soldiers were well prepared. But at the same time, the combat and business qualities of most officers were very low.

[Petr_Koldunov]

I wonder who appreciated them and when? During the war, the only thing known about the Romanians was that they could be worse than the Germans, and that the Romanians were happy to take on cruel actions, from which even the German Sonderkommandos distanced themselves.
Yes, as animals that have no concept of humanity - they were really appreciated under Hitler. I don't know any other qualities for Romanians. Well, perhaps only in the 80s as part of the socialist camp - they were cleaner traders than the Poles :)))

[Uprun]

That a lot has recently become news from Romania and Moldova in VO. Am I the only one who thinks this? The last one who "appreciated" the Romanian soldiers was General Lebed in Transnistria. Memory seems to be fading...

[Ulan.1812]

So I wonder who and when appreciated the Romanian soldiers.

[Roma 1977]

Good batmen are always in short supply.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

A historical anecdote comes to mind: Nicholas II asks his general: "... Romania wants to take the side of Germany and Austria-Hungary, what do you recommend? We will need to allocate 12 divisions in order to destroy their army, Your Majesty; And if our Foreign Ministry convinces them to come out on our side? Then these 12 divisions will be needed to protect them after the defeat by the Germans, Your Majesty. In any case, we gain nothing, only lose 12 divisions ... "

[Roma 1977]

"The Romanian army is the strongest in the world: with Hitler it reached Stalingrad, with Stalin - to Berlin!" (With)

[Henrik the reader]

Well, if you count the ability to rob your own and ally's carts, then this is an achievement in military strategy ...

[Cetarb kilk]

What can not be said - if only they themselves were not drawn into the war. And so - we would be happy to fight, but there is no army as such and leave us alone)

[sifgame]

Come on, let the sickly general of the coolest troops in the Universe amuse himself, sorry for you or something))))

[megavolt823]

I do not share the humor of most people having fun. Yes, yes, these same Romanians, Hungarians and others. We got to Moscow. And they took Ukraine in six months. Well, if anyone forgot.

[sifgame]

Are you one of those for whom the process is important, not the result?

[APASUS]

Romanian soldiers have always been highly valued.

Yes, the Germans, especially, as punishers they had no price. We stood under St. Petersburg in the blockade

[Joker62]

Quote: withoutreverse

Is that what it's called now? what could be more shameful than being a Romanian soldier??
Pot calls the kettle black)

It would be better not to moo at all, but to be silent in the barn ...

[tolancop]

The general forgot to indicate who always appreciated the Romanian soldiers ... The assessments of the Romanian army by the General Staffs of Germany and Russia were repeatedly met (pejorative), but I read about the soldiers for the first time.

[Joker62]

Quote: sifgame

Come on, let the sickly general of the coolest troops in the Universe amuse himself, sorry for you or something))))

If you feel sorry for some, others will brazenly ask .... Do you need this ???

[tolancop]

Quote: megavolt823

I do not share the humor of most people having fun. Yes, yes, these same Romanians, Hungarians and others. We got to Moscow. And they took Ukraine in six months. Well, if anyone forgot.

Are you confusing anything? They reached Moscow and Ukraine was taken by the GERMANS in six months. Romanians, Hungarians and others were in the trailer. And I read about the high appreciation of the fighting qualities of the Hungarians more than once. Cruel, worse than the Germans in relation to the population of the occupied territories, but also strong warriors. And I don’t remember anything about the Romanians except cruelty. In addition to the Romanians pilots, they were rated well, they knew how to fly.

[Oleg812spb]

Somehow, in a peculiar way, these soldiers were valued, even if during WWII they were simply flogged for misconduct, because. corporal punishment was legalized in the Romanian army.

[Fitter65]

Romanian soldiers have always been highly valued ...

Who, where and when?

[Alexey RA]

Romanian soldiers have always been highly valued.

Oh yes ... our military leaders in 1942 highly appreciated the fact that the Germans near Stalingrad entrusted the flanks to the Romanians.

[fiv]

Give him a ram, he was pretty joking!

[Altmann]

The Romanian army was completely defeated in the Great War of 1916-18 and in 1941 famously opposed the USSR. Romanian officers punished their soldiers with beatings, the army was not trained and armed. She completely capitulated at Stalingrad. Only the young King Michal spoke out against the Nazis. By royal command. For his courage, King Michal received the Order of Victory, which he has already sold. So, Romania and Romanians. Advise away from them.

[Seal]

Among the self-critical Austro-Hungarian warriors there was such a joke: “When God created the armies, he arranged them according to their degree of power. The last, on the very left flank, was the Austro-Hungarian army.
And then her bosses prayed: “Lord, we have to beat someone!”
And then God created the Italian army"
Why then did God create the Romanian army?
- Well, this is so that the Italian army would not be so insulting at all and that it could at least sometimes beat someone.

[Metallurg_2]

Romanian soldiers have always been highly valued

On this occasion, more than 100 years ago, Moltke Jr. laid everything out on the shelves in a conversation with Kaiser Wilhelm II:

"We don't care, Your Majesty, on which side Romania enters the war. If it's ours, it will take 10 divisions to save it from defeat. If it's against us, it will take the same 10 divisions to defeat it."

[Romanenko]

“Our soldiers have always been highly valued, but now they are few”

Especially as a fertilizer on stony and sandy soils.

[Ilgizl]

So old Europe does not need strong "allies" at hand, as in the days of the Warsaw Pact, while, like the Americans themselves, these countries with strong armies are not needed first of all.