Russian troops broke into the second line of defense of the enemy, advancing to Krasny Liman from Kremennaya

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Russian troops broke into the second line of defense of the enemy, advancing to Krasny Liman from Kremennaya

Over the past two days, Russian troops have advanced at least 2 km along the Kremennaya-Krasny Liman line in a westerly direction. The second line of Ukrainian defense in this direction in the Torsky area has already been hacked. Prisoners were taken, including residents of the Dnepropetrovsk region mobilized into one of the troop brigades.

As the Russian servicemen themselves say, the biggest problems here are from enemy minefields. Moreover, it also happens that when trying to retreat in the direction of Yampol and Krasny Liman, Ukrainian units stumble upon mines laid by their own “brothers”.



The Russian troops now have the opportunity to launch artillery strikes on enemy positions and targets on the outskirts of Krasny Liman and Yampol, as well as in these settlements themselves.

Recall that in the autumn of last year, the RF Armed Forces lost control over these cities during the Ukrainian offensive.



If we take into account that also from the south (from the side of Soledar) Russian troops are advancing towards Seversk, as well as along the Artyomovsk-Slavyansk road, then a configuration emerges on the battlefield, in which it becomes possible to cut off the Seversky garrison of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. To do this, the first thing to do is to establish fire control over the road Krasny Liman - Seversk. It will also ensure the blocking of the enemy in Seversk, the advancement of the Wagner PMC from the previously liberated villages of Nikolaevka and Sakko and Vanzetti to the fork in the Svyato-Pokrovsky area.



Against such an eventful background, the governments of the United States and France, who called on their citizens to leave Belarus and Russia, were joined by the German government. According to representatives of the authorities of these countries, such recommendations are related to the escalation of the conflict in Ukraine.
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  1. +22
    13 February 2023 20: 54
    Now, with a vengeance, demands for negotiations will be heard from the West. Do not give in, negotiations are only in Lviv.
    1. -14
      13 February 2023 20: 58
      To sense, the next red lines, we will answer and everything in this spirit, we have already heard dozens of times.
      1. +7
        13 February 2023 21: 06
        We have only one red line, the use of strategic nuclear forces, which we are constantly pushing back, leaving a maneuver for negotiations. The West understands this very well and is trying to push back its inglorious end. the whole world is in ruins? Under the USSR, if we were advancing in Europe, there would be a nuclear desert.
        1. +6
          13 February 2023 21: 41
          With us, any mobile poplar from the Ivanovo / Ryazan region freely reaches not only to London, but even to Philadelphia.
        2. +5
          13 February 2023 22: 04
          But why are you immediately strategic nuclear weapons, at first even tactical nuclear weapons can be reached in a few small steps, starting with the withdrawal from all the now useless treaties on the nonproliferation of nuclear weapons, non-testing of nuclear weapons, the ban on chemical weapons and bacteriological weapons along with it. I'm sure it won't reach the SNA. You will smell hydrogen sulfide in your pants behind a large puddle, you will see.
          1. +2
            14 February 2023 08: 04
            If you use nuclear weapons, then Pindam is neither hot nor cold. Even a plus for them. What do they need the outskirts of? Pity people? On the contrary, the screams will be through the roof.
        3. -16
          13 February 2023 23: 51
          First, Putin will completely bleed Russia, and by himself - Ukraine, clearing a place for tens of millions of "hard-working" personnel from Central Asia, and then, maybe, it will come to nuclear weapons. However, at one time, his "partners" did not claim his candidacy in Washington for this, that he would throw "cannonballs" at them)
          1. +11
            14 February 2023 00: 06
            But many of the wounded during the Second World War were evacuated to Central Asia, many lives were saved, many heroes from there ... Where does your language grow interestingly from ....
            1. Jyt
              -1
              15 February 2023 15: 08
              A language, not a language, but those who lived in Central Asia then and those who are right now are different people. Those were, though cunning, but simple, and these, at least in appearance, are stupid, but by nature, even those Slavs will trust them more dear to yourself
          2. -1
            14 February 2023 08: 06
            It is not Putin who does this, but Mr. Ze and Bidon. They started it all. They called Putin for a long time.
    2. +5
      13 February 2023 21: 00
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Now, with a vengeance, demands for negotiations will be heard from the West. Do not give in, negotiations are only in Lviv.

      They will hear words in support of the escalation of hostilities in the wrapper "it is necessary to improve logistics and increase the supply of weapons"
    3. +6
      13 February 2023 21: 00
      Yes, what kind of negotiations? Look, they began to evacuate their own ..
    4. +5
      13 February 2023 21: 08
      Quote: tralflot1832
      negotiations only in Lviv.

      Is that what they call Lisbon now?
      1. -1
        13 February 2023 21: 18
        I haven’t been to the PKK in Lisbon, do you think there is an opportunity to visit? The PKK is a repair team, I am a replacement team. hi
      2. +7
        13 February 2023 21: 57
        In the old film with Leonov .. were you abroad? Yes, there was. In Prague, Vienna.
        Tourist? No, in the infantry
    5. +11
      13 February 2023 21: 16
      demands for negotiations will be heard from the west.
      What are the negotiations? I'm reading the media, they have only wins there Yes . By the way, they will repay debts to the European Union ... together with other EU countries, when, after a victory, they join it laughing Here is their cunning plan. As for the United States, part of the money is grants, that is, they do not need to be given away, and part will be given when, with the help of the EU, their economy is deployed to its full potential. So Ukraine has no problems with debts Yes .
      1. +2
        13 February 2023 21: 21
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        By the way, they will repay debts to the European Union ... together with other EU countries,

        Here you are directly persecuting Putin's propaganda! Repercussions! Or preparations? They are already carrying them, just without a bridge, which, as you know, has not been built and is generally blown up - they cannot take them in any way. ABOUT!
      2. +5
        13 February 2023 21: 23
        I confirm that the optimism there in the pans just rolls over, through the looking glass in a parallel reality. Or they add something to the water supply ...
        1. +7
          13 February 2023 21: 28
          The more optimism they have, the more interesting it will then be to watch Yaroslavna cry when the looking glass crumbles to dust.
          1. +4
            13 February 2023 22: 03
            While they will be helped not to crumble anything.
            1. +3
              13 February 2023 22: 11
              How it will crumble. It will fall apart even if the Armed Forces of Ukraine defeat the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the battlefield, that is, in the best scenario for them.
        2. Jyt
          0
          15 February 2023 15: 16
          Solaviev’s propaganda is added to their tea, so they go crazy with Como! Well, in truth, the West is now conducting an operation to bring the stump from Russia called the Russian Federation to a nuclear-free status, things are going according to plan, it remains to endure the stocking until the United Russia foolishness and the job is done But the amba is waiting for the annual pot, just like Putin’s lovers. But first them, and then lovers. They didn’t have anything to do in the USSR, even naked, so Putin said.
      3. +1
        13 February 2023 21: 47
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        So Ukraine has no problems with debts.

        Here you are wrong, because there are problems. The money is running out, and no one wants to give new loans and handouts, even at very high interest rates.
        1. +4
          13 February 2023 21: 54
          Here you are wrong, because there are problems
          Do not spread Putin's propaganda, but read Svidomo Ukrainian media laughing . I briefly recounted how they intend to repay their debts.
      4. +2
        14 February 2023 04: 44
        Yes, and they expect us to get the full
        1. 0
          14 February 2023 09: 43
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Yes, and they expect us to get the full

          Yep, cheek...
      5. +1
        14 February 2023 15: 00
        Country Sharovaria, when speaking, it seems as if they are delirious. Treatment carpet bombing Western Svidomo.
    6. +2
      13 February 2023 22: 03
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Now, with a vengeance, demands for negotiations will be heard from the West. Do not give in, negotiations are only in Lviv.

      In Uzhgorod! You have to go to the border with the Magyars - you can deal with them! hi
    7. -10
      13 February 2023 23: 24
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Do not give in, negotiations only in Lviv.

      Let's at least in Warsaw...
    8. 0
      14 February 2023 13: 02
      Now, with a vengeance, demands for negotiations will be heard from the West

      Matvienko is the "west"? smile
      Feb 1 2023 - Matvienko announced Russia's readiness for negotiations on Ukraine - Read more on the RT website in Russian.
    9. 0
      14 February 2023 18: 00
      Well, actually, in fact, not demands for negotiations, but demands to surrender. Well, as far as Lvov is concerned, it is so far away "as far as Kyiyva rachki" (a proverb of pilgrims who used to visit the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra on foot). We do not yet have such troops that would have reached Lvov. Well, if those regions that have already been included in Russia will remain there.
  2. -1
    13 February 2023 21: 00
    , negotiations only in Lviv

    There should be negotiations in Lisbon, or rather, the surrender of the pro-fascist geyropa! And then It is necessary to cross the Atlantic and the Motherland to put the mother in place of the statue of liberty! Well, all sorts of mutts like Korea, Japan themselves will crawl with a white flag on their knees!
    1. +14
      13 February 2023 21: 04
      Quote: VLAD-96
      , negotiations only in Lviv

      There should be negotiations in Lisbon, or rather, the surrender of the pro-fascist geyropa! And then It is necessary to cross the Atlantic and the Motherland to put the mother in place of the statue of liberty! Well, all sorts of mutts like Korea, Japan themselves will crawl with a white flag on their knees!


      Fantasy is a good thing, but have brakes and sometimes use them laughing
      1. +2
        13 February 2023 21: 21
        We slow down at least in Brest (French). To the songs of Edita Piekha (she lived there as a child). hi
    2. +4
      13 February 2023 21: 56
      Quote: VLAD-96
      , negotiations only in Lviv

      There should be negotiations in Lisbon, or rather, the surrender of the pro-fascist geyropa! And then It is necessary to cross the Atlantic and the Motherland to put the mother in place of the statue of liberty! Well, all sorts of mutts like Korea, Japan themselves will crawl with a white flag on their knees!

      Not .. You got excited .. Homeland Let Mother remain in our homeland. We will disperse the Zhidobanderva from Greater Russia, all sorts of Japanese and Koreans will crawl themselves .. And in Europe, smaller countries, with their tails between their legs, will crawl for alms ... But they don’t need to give anything. Let them work for three expensive. All these Czech Republics, Slovakia, Bulgaria, and the Germans too.
    3. -6
      14 February 2023 14: 54
      Quote: VLAD-96
      And then It is necessary to cross the Atlantic and the Motherland to put the mother in place of the statue of liberty!

      Homeland Mother must stand in the homeland! That's why she's a mother! And Lenin should stand in the Upper New York Bay!!! am
  3. 0
    13 February 2023 21: 08
    Against such an eventful background, the governments of the United States and France, who called on their citizens to leave Belarus and Russia, were joined by the governments of Brazil and Germany.

    They must know something.
    Is there some kind of bombing or a series of terrorist attacks waiting for us?
    1. -1
      13 February 2023 21: 19
      in that case, isn't there some kind of tsunami or a series of nuclear strikes waiting for them?
      1. -1
        13 February 2023 21: 52
        Quote: voice of reason
        Is there some kind of tsunami or a series of nuclear strikes waiting for them?

        It does not wait unambiguously, because the red lines are not very solid.
        1. -2
          14 February 2023 10: 23
          Yes, you didn’t believe in the ultimatum because of which the NWO began
    2. +6
      13 February 2023 21: 23
      Quote: antiaircrafter
      Is there some kind of bombing or a series of terrorist attacks waiting for us?


      Today there was already an article that the Americans are preparing 60 terrorists in Syria for terrorist attacks in Russia. The Foreign Intelligence Service says exactly that.
    3. +3
      13 February 2023 21: 30
      Yes, bullshit, carry all sorts of nonsense. If there were something like that, then, probably, similar actions were taken by China, India, Iran, Turkey?
      I just don't understand how Brazil signed up here.
      1. +1
        14 February 2023 07: 35
        this is a fake about Brazil, they have already denied such a statement
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  5. +2
    13 February 2023 21: 18
    However, what an interesting afterburner in Pecheneg ...
  6. -11
    13 February 2023 21: 33
    We handed over in two weeks, and we are fighting back for the third month already. We have "strategists" in the General Staff. During the Second World War, our army passed such "fortified areas" in a week.
    1. +1
      13 February 2023 21: 58
      a vacancy has opened for you in the "Vostok" battalion = don't hesitate, sir???
    2. +1
      13 February 2023 22: 02
      You're not a military historian, are you? That's why you write all sorts of nonsense. You at least, if not a history textbook, then read fiction on the topic of taking cities. Many truthful books have been written about the war.
    3. +8
      13 February 2023 22: 09
      Quote: Klonser
      We handed over in two weeks, and we are fighting back for the third month already. We have "strategists" in the General Staff. During the Second World War, our army passed such "fortified areas" in a week.
      Yeah ... passed. Especially near Kharkov ... How many were captured? - "According to German data (in the source that published the document it is noted that these data seem to be greatly inflated), they captured 352 prisoners, captured and destroyed 355 tanks, 1320 guns of all types, 2648 aircraft" - And in the Crimea, how many were captured near Kerch? E. von Manstein announced the capture of 557 thousand prisoners, the capture and destruction of 170 tanks and 258 guns !!!! Now they are fighting less than near Kharkov and Kerch were surrounded ... So that you are easier on the turns.
      1. +2
        13 February 2023 22: 14
        Quote: 30 vis
        Yeah ... passed. Especially near Kharkov ...

        Alexander Rogers spoke very well here ...
        Now let's get serious.
        Why am I "baiting" them, the poor.
        1. For the emotional presentation of information. Instead of facts - tantrums and pressure on emotions. And it's always manipulation.
        2. For value judgments.
        Can you imagine Levitan yelling on the air, "This is some kind of pinhead! Shoot all the generals! Resign!"?
        And then the situation was much more complicated, and the losses were orders of magnitude greater.
        What would the current military whore do during, for example, the crossing of the Dnieper, where irretrievable losses amounted to, think about it, 417 thousand (!) People?
        The hysterical howl would have been such that the cry at the birth of Slaanesh would have seemed like a harmless breeze.
        3. For the complete, total lack of fact checking.
        Well, it’s necessary to hype, it’s necessary before everyone else, it’s necessary to grunt, otherwise you won’t sell the Finnish LGBT and headphones!
        therefore
        a) 300 people died in Pavlovka! (actually 18)
        b) horror in Belogorovka! (in fact, a Ukrainian column was broken there)
        c) marines were killed near Ugledar (these poor, really heroic marines, these stupid people have already buried twice)
        d) they sketched that the uniform costs 150 thousand (and it costs 10,2)
        e) it got to the point that one "OSINT specialist" wrote here the other day that I'm sitting in Prague.
        That is, they are not even able to verify elementary information.
        This is worse than a crime, this is a mistake.
        They are stupidly unprofessional. Such people need to be engaged in hard unskilled labor (perhaps somewhere in the sunny Magadan region), and they climbed into journalism. And not just in journalism, but in such a complex variety as military journalism. Where you need to be especially responsible and carefully check any incoming information (also do not publish what cannot be published).
        Get out of the profession, you disgrace!
      2. -2
        13 February 2023 23: 00
        . they captured 352 prisoners,
        You have a good command of the "material", offset! But purely for the sake of justice, so to speak, for the purity of the experiment, could you bring at the same time the "parameters" of the grouping of the Wehrmacht troops during these very events? How many aircraft and other equipment, and of course manpower, did the enemy need to achieve such results? So that you can divide these numbers by the number of tanks and guns (or aircraft, for example) that the Ukrainians now have. This would help to "feel the scale", so to speak, and get approximately the "denominator" by which you would need to divide the numbers you gave. By the way the scale of the NWO database is, to put it mildly, "incomparable" with the scale of World War II
        1. 0
          14 February 2023 09: 00
          Quote: Novichek)
          You have a good command of the "material", offset! But purely for the sake of justice, so to speak, for the purity of the experiment, could you bring at the same time the "parameters" of the grouping of the Wehrmacht troops during these very events?

          And why would a dear person to you not work hard and please us all with the results of your labors? A?
      3. -2
        13 February 2023 23: 35
        . Manstein announced the capture of 170 thousand prisoners,
        . To take 170 thousand prisoners, first you need to be Manstein, and have at least the same army, and then the non-state of Raguli with the stealing leadership, having a "Luftwaffe" one and a half aircraft, "Panzerwaffe" only armored personnel carriers remained, you can say, manpower in specific areas the front is a big question, they said in Bakhmut about 14 thousand, this is so far the maximum grouping from what is in open sources. Was it the same with Manstein? It's scary to think what Manstein could do with the current "cardboard" ones! am
        1. +1
          14 February 2023 09: 07
          Quote: Novichek)
          and then the non-state of Raguli with the stealing leadership

          Yes, the non-state of the Jewish Bandera. Evil , greedy , greedy , greedy , envious and cowardly . And who is behind these idiots, who controls every sneeze, sigh, fart and movement of all these Jew Bandera? A ? Do not know ? I'll prompt. Behind them is the world government, the so-called reptilians - Soros, Rockefellers, Rothschilds. Clever, prudent, ruthless ... And Russia entered into a deadly battle with them .. And the ZhidoBanderites are consumables, zombies with weapons in their hands, the victims of the Jew and his leadership ... So there is no need to cry out here about indignities ...
      4. -3
        13 February 2023 23: 41
        We are not talking about the initial stage of the war. I'm talking about 43-45 years. Berlin was taken in a month, and this is a larger city than Mariupol, which was stormed for 2 months. And it was more fortified. Some air defense towers are worth something. And it is not necessary to say that the scale of the war there was different. The Germans also did not fight suckers. And Ukraine, at 41 or at 43, was captured in a few months. And the same cities and fortifications were no worse, if not better. They just fought then, and now our leadership is chewing both military and political snot. There are no questions about guys who fight - heroes.
        1. +6
          14 February 2023 00: 02
          Berlin was taken in a month
          360000 killed and wounded. There is simply no such number of soldiers on one sector of the front now.
          1. -6
            14 February 2023 00: 12
            So the number of troops at the front is not our advantage, but our disadvantage. Who prevents to call not 300 thousand, but 1 million? And end the war in a few months. It makes sense to talk about a mobilization potential of 10 million. And don't talk about equipment, logistics, etc. I’ll say it again, in the Second World War it was more difficult with logistics, support, and everything else. If only because the transport, production, information capabilities were much worse. The technical level was different. But nothing, they were able to arm and provide everything necessary for the 5 million army.
            1. 0
              14 February 2023 18: 06
              In my opinion, we still lack weapons. As for the size of the army, we cannot avoid the second wave of mobilization. The situation will force. And it's good if we're not late.
        2. +1
          14 February 2023 07: 41
          quite stupid ..............................................
    4. +2
      13 February 2023 23: 31
      Peut être mais avec combien d'hommes et surtout avec combien de pertes ?
      Les temps ont changes, le 22 Août 1914 la France a perdu 27000 hommes tués, quel gouvernement pourrait, en 2023, résister à de telles pertes ?

      Maybe, but with how many people and, above all, with how many losses?
      Times have changed, on August 22, 1914, France lost 27000 people killed, which government in 2023 could withstand such losses?
      1. +3
        13 February 2023 23: 46
        Quote from Yanni Kounnar

        Times have changed, on August 22, 1914, France lost 27000 people killed, which government in 2023 could withstand such losses?
        Any...
        Losses simply will not be reported on TV and on the Internet in silence, Twitter, Instagram - everything is under control - the inhabitants of France simply will not know what is happening at the front, or rather they will "know" - only what they will be shown and told. ..
        sad
      2. -1
        13 February 2023 23: 57
        And what is better, to gather superior forces and roll out Ukraine in a month, losing 10000, for example, or to fight for a year without significant success and lose the same 10000? It must also be taken into account that it is not known how long this strange military operation will last and what losses there will be in the end.
        1. 0
          14 February 2023 18: 07
          In my opinion, we still lack weapons. As for the size of the army, we cannot avoid the second wave of mobilization. The situation will force. And it's good if we're not late.
  7. 0
    14 February 2023 01: 21
    The war is raging in full! What other escalation? Question: what is not being said?
  8. -2
    14 February 2023 01: 25
    Read the comments, so everyone is already taking London. How long have we been engaged in regroupings ??? Forgot??? The impudent Saxons are preparing a striking fist. Tanks, infantry fighting vehicles. Aircraft and missiles will be handed over, more cheerful than chimeras. And that's when the real war starts. And you have to be ready for it. And don't throw your bonnets in the air when, after a month of fierce fighting and heavy losses, we take some other village!!! And then ... Thanks to the Wagners ...
  9. -1
    14 February 2023 03: 07
    Over the past two days, Russian troops have advanced at least 2 km along the Kremennaya-Krasny Liman line in a westerly direction.


    Hooray !
    1. 0
      14 February 2023 18: 08
      So, kilometers or meters? Such advances are not worth highlighting.
  10. +1
    14 February 2023 03: 42
    Judging by the latest news from the front, our Defense Ministry has chosen a wide coverage tactic. We are now witnessing the creation of the left claw to encircle Artemovsk with the actual siege of Chasov Yar. Yesterday's capture of Krasnaya Gora will make it possible to form a right claw, which, in turn, will make it possible to move deep into the territory of Ukraine in a western direction. In case of successful actions of our troops, we will be able to squeeze Kramatorsk from the southern and eastern parts. Musicians are actively working on this site now.
    The second area, which is also being widely covered, is the line Seversk - Yampol - Krasny Liman - Kupyansk. In fact, these are the territories that we lost in the fall. From the south, fighting is going on in the Razdolovka area. The musicians are actively developing the offensive and in the coming days should reach the outskirts of Seversk. The troops of the Moscow Region, which previously defended Kreminnaya, are moving towards them from the side of the Serebryansky forestry. The news that another group is approaching Krasny Liman indicates that a wide coverage is planned here too, cutting off the main supply routes.
    But, it should be noted that we passed Krasny Liman due to the fact that we had abandoned Kupyansk before that. It is possible to take Liman, but without providing protection from the northern side, you can get a counterattack on the flank, which will lead to a repeat of the mistakes of autumn ...
    Apparently, our Defense Ministry is really planning a broad offensive in the Kharkov region. If this plan succeeds in realizing, then we will not only return to the positions we left earlier, but will also take the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk-Druzhkovka agglomeration into a wide scope. Let's see how events will develop. I think that the counteroffensive promised by Khokhl will not take place.
    1. -1
      14 February 2023 07: 27
      In Ramstein, they agreed that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would receive 1000 infantry fighting vehicles and 500 tanks. This is another 5-6 motorized brigades. This force must be reckoned with, especially in the very sensitive Zaporozhye direction. And maybe even in Kherson.
      1. 0
        14 February 2023 07: 43
        500? they still can't put 14 in any way
    2. 0
      14 February 2023 18: 12
      Winter is 2 weeks away. And when it will be a broad offensive. I am tormented by vague doubts.
  11. +2
    14 February 2023 03: 50
    Quote from Bingo
    they sketched that the uniform costs 150 thousand (and it costs 10,2)

    As for the form, today I found out the exact amount. I have a neighbor who sells fabric to this now well-known company, which has been selected as the MO supplier. The cost of the kit is 10 rubles.
    He also said that the membrane fabric, which is much better in terms of consumer qualities, has just begun to arrive. Soon the kits will start sewing from it. The cost will rise accordingly, but not to the fictitious 140 wooden ones.
  12. +4
    14 February 2023 04: 00
    Quote: 30 vis
    Yeah ... passed. Especially near Kharkov ... How many were captured? - "According to German data (in the source that published the document it is noted that these data seem to be greatly inflated), they captured 352 prisoners, captured and destroyed 355 tanks, 1320 guns of all types, 2648 aircraft"

    We are talking about an unsuccessful attempt to recapture Kharkov. Khrushchev and Timoshenko convinced Stalin that an operation from under Izyum could cunningly defeat the enemy and liberate the city. Gathered a decent grouping and sent into battle. In the Barvenkovo ​​area, they were hit by ticks and were smashed to smithereens. In these battles, my grandfather died, burned down in a tank. All his life he was listed as missing. Three years ago, upon request, my sister received a certificate from the German archives about the place and time of his death. So, the pedantic German still keeps documents about our losses on a specific sector of the front ...
    By the way, we were then defeated by the sixth army of Paulus! She took Paris. And only then was Stalingrad, operations Uranus and the Ring, the encirclement of the three hundred thousandth group of Germans. By the way, much fewer soldiers and officers were taken prisoner, just over 100, and about 000 people returned home ... Frost, frostbite, hunger, illness and a difficult foot transition into captivity did their job ...
    I mean, we have not yet reached our Stalingrad. We need to correct mistakes and show extreme toughness, if not cruelty, towards the enemy. We are not at war with a Ukrainian, we are at war with fascist Europe, which has been revived in our time ... Victory will be ours!
    1. -1
      14 February 2023 10: 19
      Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
      Khrushchev and Timoshenko convinced Stalin in that it is possible to use an operation from under Izyum to cunningly defeat the enemy and liberate the city.

      This is the most interesting passage from you! Yes
    2. -1
      14 February 2023 18: 21
      You also need to stop lying and being silent. An example is the Prokhorovka tank battle, which is often shown as a "victory". In reality, two tank armies were deployed for the offensive: ours and the Germans. The Germans timely discovered our army and stood on the defensive. Of the longer-range tank guns and better sights, they burned and damaged our armada. The battlefield was left to the Germans and German sappers blew up our tanks at night, which could still be restored. In addition, the field of attack of our tanks was extremely poorly chosen due to the conditions of the relief.
  13. +1
    14 February 2023 07: 21
    judging by the concentration of troops, the Bakhmut operation is only a distraction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Liman direction. However, progress is slow here.
  14. 0
    14 February 2023 07: 21
    Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
    I mean, we have not yet reached our Stalingrad.

    With all due respect to your opinion, it may not be worth bringing the matter to your own Stalingrad, but to win the war without going to the extreme and without the need for such great sacrifices on the part of our people.
  15. 0
    14 February 2023 11: 14
    Wait until Russia goes to Poland and Berlin again.
  16. +1
    14 February 2023 11: 49
    Will they leave a maneuver for negotiations? Or is the whole world in dust?

    And why do you think that the use of tactical nuclear weapons inevitably leads to escalation and "the whole world is in ruins"? The same applies to the limited use of strategic weapons.
  17. +1
    14 February 2023 11: 58
    If the roads are cut, then what for, these assaults in the style of Bakhmut will not be needed. Considering how much ammunition the troops spend today, then 2-3 weeks and the garrison will have nothing to fight back.
  18. 0
    14 February 2023 12: 57
    This offensive, without confident overcoming the Yampol, Zarechnoye, Torskoye, Nevsky line, only worsens the positions of the Russian troops. The troops will come out to a water barrier with dominant heights in front of them and will start standing in the fields to snatch out the most do not indulge.
  19. 0
    14 February 2023 18: 52
    Well, well ... Now go ahead! To Tel-A-Lviv! soldier
  20. 0
    15 February 2023 07: 53
    Hacking means breaking through the front. And the extrusion that is observed now is not a hack.
  21. 0
    15 February 2023 10: 11
    Yes, it is not only in the West that truces will be howled. Our liberals and the fifth column are already yelling! And their voice will be heard at the top. And there will be Minsk-3. Next "gestures". Rocked-washed, start over. The conversation should be one - for us - our Victory. For them, unconditional surrender.
  22. 0
    15 February 2023 13: 20
    Moreover, it also happens that when trying to retreat in the direction of Yampol and Krasny Liman, Ukrainian units stumble upon mines laid by their own “brothers”.


    And who does not allow ours to densely "sow" with mines the retreat paths of the Ukrofascists?
    The less they come out of the boilers, the cleaner the primordially Russian land of Novorossia !!!

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