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Chelyabinsk incident: beat your own so that strangers are afraid

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Chelyabinsk incident: beat your own so that strangers are afraid
Allegedly, the moment of detention of participants in a mass brawl near the "Educational Center No. 5" in the city of Chelyabinsk. Source: vk.com



Banal story


Unfortunately, everything that will be discussed below becomes commonplace. history of the average Russian city N. At one fine moment, guests from Central Asia come to the city. There is nothing shameful in this - Russia, as officials assure, is chronically short of workers. And indeed, guest workers become drivers of economic development - they help build, clean streets, trade and repair.

Again, this is what businessmen and officials say. Citizens of Russia will not go to work for the money offered to foreigners. Whether they tried to increase wages - employers are modestly silent about this. They probably didn’t try it, since a large part of people from neighboring countries work illegally, which fills the pockets of businessmen well.

One of the mechanisms for promoting corruption, which the country has been fighting for decades. But even that can be dealt with. Conditionally, but possible. Somewhere in parallel there is a world in which people work, transfer money abroad, come and go. The main thing is that the common man should not be touched. Our hut is on the edge, otherwise they will write down as nationalists or, what's good, skinheads.

But this does not happen - a boiling cauldron will sooner or later throw out its contents, and it will be painful and bitter.

In some cities, N managed to close the lid in time - somewhere the administration worked, somewhere the security forces, and somewhere it was necessary to connect the civic consciousness of the inhabitants. Usually, after such stories, zealous migrants, who considered that now Uzbekistan or Tajikistan are here, noticeably cool down. Not always and not everywhere, unfortunately.

The other day in Novosibirsk, a small undergrowth from the local Central Asian diaspora beat up a Russian guy like a jackal in a crowd.

The cause of the conflict is being established, but there are big doubts that local law enforcement officers will dare to punish the perpetrators. The notorious national question is very painfully perceived by the authorities. Ombudsmen, heads of diasporas, the Tajik Foreign Ministry together with the Uzbek Ministry of Foreign Affairs will rise behind the crowd of brutalized youngsters, and if there is no reaction, then Emomali Rahmon, on occasion, will tell our president how to protect migrants.

"We want to be respected"

- this already happened in October last year in Kazakhstan. Well, on the streets of Novosibirsk, they once again proved what respect for national minorities is.


Children of migrants in Novosibirsk demand respect from a Russian guy. Source: t.me/MedvedevVesti

But in Chelyabinsk it is not so. Only one incident that stirred up the whole country, and even more so the Urals.

According to local sources, for several years certain Firus and Zinatuloh mastered the local glade, that is, they extorted money from teenagers and took away phones. All those who disagreed were beaten, since the guys were not frail. This is a general trend - the average youngster from Central Asia is stronger and healthier than the average Russian high school student.

In a close and friendly diaspora, an indisputable cult of power is no other way. It is interesting how interethnic conflicts are often resolved. Someone who called himself the head, overseer or headman of the diaspora, bails out naughty fellow tribesmen on parole. It happens that the Criminal Code can be circumvented by such tricks.

It is not known whether the mentioned Firus and Zinatuloh were on bail, but the locals suffered from them. Sooner or later, this would lead to a big disaster - a local girl raped, an unfortunate man beaten to death who dared to object, or kilograms of selected Afghan heroin. There is no thickening of colors here - impunity gives rise to even greater impunity. An illustrative example is Great Britain, where immigrants used minors as "white slaves".

Unbanal turn


But at the very beginning of February, the heroes of the Chelyabinsk racket stumble upon Nikita. Everything is according to a proven scheme - if you want to live smoothly, pay. Nikita refused, he was offered to resolve the issue at a general meeting of collectives, which has been called the “arrow” since ancient times. Further events developed in the best traditions of Guy Ritchie's films. Firus and Zinatuloh reacted irresponsibly to the event and were unable to ensure numerical superiority.

And Nikita, on the contrary, managed to gather an impressive group of like-minded people. Because there was no longer the strength to endure the lawlessness of visitors. Again, the Internet has widely spread the version that the team of Firus and Zinatulokh has been methodically and for a long time knocking money out of local schoolchildren. This is indirectly confirmed by local residents, as well as numerous screenshots of communication in social networks. In any case, only a court can reliably speak about the guilt of migrants, but there are big doubts that at least an administrative case will be opened against the visitors, not to mention a criminal one.


The moment of detention of the participants of the fight. As expected, only our guys were laid face down on the floor. The team of Firus and Zinatuloh did not appear at the police station. Source: vk.com

A long conversation at the arrow did not work out - the natives of Central Asia, who felt the strength of the enemy, rushed in all directions. The instinct of self-preservation led a couple of fighters to the nearby "Educational Center No. 5". Video cameras at the school recorded how some people in masks beat others, and probably even with hammers. Someone grandiloquently declares a massacre, but nothing critical was found in Firus and Zinatuloh in the hospital. Although the hammer is known to weapon terrible and in a fit of rage can send to the next world.

Either our boys were very cold-blooded in a fight, or there were no hammers at all. Now the incident is being investigated under part 2 of article 213 of the Criminal Code - this is hooliganism with the use of weapons. Guys from 14 to 18 years old, and they face punishment from a large fine to 7 years in prison. The juveniles were released on a subscription basis, and the eldest of them, Dobroslav, remained in the pre-trial detention center. As is clear from history, no one from the group of migrants was detained.


The entrance group of the Chelyabinsk "Educational Center No. 5", where Firus and Zinatulok tried to escape. Source: vk.com

One of our guys posted a video, the transcript of which is attached:

“I went to defend my friend, who was mocked by this gang of bandits. I don't know what else to call them. Who took everything from them all the time and just mocked them. This is all very difficult, as it were, for me, because there is a lot of pressure on us that we can be imprisoned for this, although this is just an ordinary domestic conflict.

Residents who are not indifferent to history have already collected several hundred thousand rubles for lawyers.

In connection with the history of Chelyabinsk, which is still waiting for its resolution, a lot of questions arise. Why is the public so outraged? No, not the fight itself, but the choice of law enforcement officers. As we remember, only Russian guys were taken to the police station. Packed according to all the rules - face to the floor, hands behind the head. It seemed that here they are, the notorious skinheads, exposed the cell. Yes, and the boys are strong, shaved, look straight, point-blank. They beat, it turns out, the Uzbeks only for their brown eyes, swarthy skin and the shape of the nose.

But the people of the Urals in general and the people of Chelyabinsk in particular do not agree with this interpretation. According to the father of one of the guys, they managed to raise about 300 rubles and pay for the services of a lawyer four months in advance. The process is started, it remains only to closely follow the course of history and hope for the best. The public outcry was not weak, and this is the main guarantor of an impartial consideration of the case by the relevant structures.

Without clarifying all the circumstances, Russian guys were announced as the instigators of the fight - the opposite side of the conflict, if they appear at the police station, then as witnesses, or even victims. The beaten Uzbeks will now, portraying the victim, diligently play the national card. Let's now make our boys ashamed that they are Russian.

We already have enough cosmopolitans who have realized since February 24 the sinfulness of the Russian tricolor. Let's go on - such a vice will become ubiquitous. What future awaits us in this case? The question is rhetorical.

The second question, on the contrary, requires an answer - how did it even come to this? No one is going to justify the methods of the company of Nikita and Dobroslav - hitting faces has never been prestigious. This is always a last resort and should be avoided if possible.

According to the locals, the group of guys with a "Slavic appearance" was never shy, but no one saw them with swastikas or zigging. Why have law enforcement agencies been brought to such a state when interethnic conflicts have to be resolved by force? And this is clearly an inter-ethnic conflict, whatever its causes.

Did they indulge visitors too much or squeezed too much locals, who were ready to explain to foreigners on their fingers how not to behave at a party? Paradoxically, there are too many unknowns in this story and at the same time everything is extremely clear. If this is the logic of the category “beat your own so that others are afraid,” then it does not work - strangers are not afraid, and there will be less and less of your own with this approach.
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 15 February 2023 05: 10
    +100
    As GDP says, they beat the weak ...
    guests from the south clearly see who in Russia can be beaten and humiliated with impunity ... for some reason they do not beat our security forces with a crowd ... they know that they themselves will be beaten later.
    How to stop the attacks of alien guests on our nerds?
    Only severely punishing for it ... and nothing else.
    If the authorities slow down all this, it will end again with the Karelian massacre of Kondopoga.
    Power forgets its lessons.
    1. Asad
      Asad 15 February 2023 05: 20
      +145
      The solution to this problem is simple to the point of banality. The law must be respected primarily by the authorities. Impunity breeds permissiveness. The police are unable or unwilling to perform their functions. In Novosibirsk, not so long ago, a traffic cop shot an Azerbaijani from the “elite” for trying to take away his weapon. At first they almost imprisoned me too, it turns out that there is a whole clan in the regional government. Ate they recaptured the man.
      1. Dante Alighieri
        Dante Alighieri 15 February 2023 07: 05
        +76
        Unfortunately, I am forced to admit the fact that there is a wholesale replacement of the indigenous population of Russia with immigrants from Central Asia. And the NWO only accelerates this process, because while our guys are fighting and dying in Ukraine, migrants are taking their place in the economy. The population of the newly annexed territories, let's be frank, is not able to compensate for this process, because the natural decline in the population in / on Nezalezhnaya is of the same nature as in Russia, and therefore, basically, the bulk of the "denationalized" are the same pensioners who do not produce any -either material values ​​or new people, the maintenance of which, moreover, will inevitably form another burden on the budget corroded by military spending. At the same time, while the Slavs are successfully grinding the remnants of their gene pool, which did not have time to recover from the demographic hole of the 90s, young and cheeky representatives of the south are taking advantage of the situation, who already feel like masters on our land.

        It is clear that we cannot do without a labor force "from outside", therefore no one says that migrants should be humiliated or treated as second-class people - after all, this is not in our cultural tradition. But it is also impossible to let them down such situations as described in the article. In this regard, I am more concerned about how to prevent such excesses in the future than how to respond to them when they do inevitably occur.

        The commentators above correctly noted about the rule of law, but what should this law be like, how to achieve its implementation? First of all, it seems to me that it is worth transferring responsibility for the offenses that a migrant commits, not only to himself (after all, what to take from him? The maximum that awaits him is a prison term and deportation), but also to the one who hires him to work, or in the absence of such - to the person at whose invitation a native of Tajikistan, Uzbekistan or Kyrgyzstan comes to the territory of the Russian Federation. This will immediately force potential employers to approach the personnel issue more legibly, and all kinds of "relatives" to think about whether they want, if something happens, to be responsible for the "jambs" of their relatives with their own skin. And this should apply to both administrative and criminal offenses. It is clear that the degree of such mutual responsibility needs additional elaboration, but one thing is clear already now - it should be quite sensitive, up to real imprisonment for those who vouched for a migrant worker - this is the only way we can create a really working migration filter, which this will not require additional financial influences and the creation of additional controlling structures.

        In fact, we are talking about an analogue of a loan guarantee, which provides for the establishment of the guarantor's liability in the event that the main creditor fails to fulfill its obligations. The only difference is that instead of a financial loan, we provide the migrant with a social loan, which allows him to live and work on the territory of the Russian Federation under the guarantee of pious and respectable behavior. This time.

        Second, there is no amnesty for those who have previously committed a crime on the territory of the Russian Federation, up to the deprivation of citizenship of naturalized citizens and members of their families, even if their children were born already in Russia. Yes, this is decimation, yes, of course, this principle violates the soil principle established by the constitution, but only the immediate threat of depriving the 1st generation of migrants of Russian citizenship can guarantee the law-abiding behavior of their parents and themselves in the long term and prevent the development of a situation like modern France, where exactly the children of migrants who have become full-fledged citizens are today a key problem.

        And third. The activities of diasporas should be placed under strict control or generally recognized as illegal. On the one hand, diasporas certainly play an important role in society, because they allow a migrant not only to survive the prostration of moving to another linguistic and cultural environment, but also to receive help from those who have already socialized in a new place. Another point is that diasporas, in many ways reproducing the way of life of the country where the migrant comes from, on the contrary, make it difficult for him to socialize in our society, forming a false idea that the same patterns of behavior are appropriate here in Russia as at home in the Motherland. I am already silent, that diasporas often replace the official institutions of power in the Russian Federation, identify the guilty themselves, search for the criminals themselves and betray them to the official authorities (as, for example, it happened in Biryulyovo in 2013), which is unacceptable.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 15 February 2023 07: 27
          +78
          It is clear that we cannot do without a labor force "from outside"
          You don't know. But in polyclinics, doctors are Uzbeks, in pharmacies, Kyrgyz. This is where I've been visiting a lot lately. The question is, where did the Russians go? Surely everyone refused to go into medicine, or most likely the authorities optimized it.
          As for the diasporas! Skinheads are banned. ban diasporas.
          1. Civil
            Civil 15 February 2023 08: 01
            +21
            From day to day begins grow stronger Friendship of peoples in the rear.
          2. Kuziming
            Kuziming 15 February 2023 08: 09
            +23
            This is simply called "Optimization".
          3. Gomunkul
            Gomunkul 15 February 2023 08: 23
            +22
            You don't know. But in polyclinics, doctors are Uzbeks, in pharmacies, Kyrgyz. This is where I've been visiting a lot lately. The question is, where did the Russians go?
            On the advice you know who go into business. laughing
          4. Evgeny Ivanov_5
            Evgeny Ivanov_5 15 February 2023 09: 28
            +48
            Ha! My friend recently went to the gynecologist, so what do you think! The doctor is sitting - Tajik in Russian is not belmes. Takes a swab and THROW IT INTO THE GARBAGE! Then he appoints a new visit, making an entry in the card in Tajik. That's when they start talking to us in their native language and beating us for not knowing it, that's all. Amba. Thanks to Khusnulin, who pushed through an increase in quotas by 2 million heads.
            1. GIS
              GIS 15 February 2023 10: 18
              +7
              where is this happening???
              I hope they inserted responsible persons from the Ministry of Health?
          5. not the one
            not the one 15 February 2023 10: 36
            +32
            Skinheads are banned. ban diasporas.
            Absolutely agree!
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          6. Dante Alighieri
            Dante Alighieri 15 February 2023 11: 04
            0
            You don't know. But in polyclinics, doctors are Uzbeks, in pharmacies, Kyrgyz.

            Why don't you know? I had to face. But this is a common practice of these peoples: he will settle down in any work not in the least bit related to physical labor, and preferably in a commanding position, and we can say that life is a success. The pluses include the fact that such "careerists", as a rule, quickly socialize, are generally law-abiding and do not demonstrate deviant behavior. Of course, this is also a problem, but as I personally think, it is more related to the massive outflow of specialists into commercial medicine and the nuances of medical activity in general (low wages, high bureaucratization, stress and high responsibility of medical specialists) than with migration as such. I was talking, first of all, about low-skilled labor and traders of all stripes.
            1. BIGLESHIY
              BIGLESHIY 16 February 2023 09: 51
              +4
              [quote=dante][quote]
              But this is a common practice of these peoples: he will settle down in any work not in the least bit related to physical labor, and preferably in a commanding position, and we can say that life is a success. The pluses include the fact that such "careerists", as a rule, quickly socialize, are generally law-abiding and do not demonstrate deviant behavior. [/quote]
              Have you forgotten how a few years ago a migrant "doctor" scored a Russian patient? It is possible to eradicate a Tajik, an Uzbek from a village... But here a village from a Tajik, an Uzbek and others like them is lying.
          7. Arbeiternegast
            Arbeiternegast 21 February 2023 11: 18
            +1
            Diasporas to ban unambiguously! It's like a second power...
        2. Non-fighter
          Non-fighter 15 February 2023 09: 47
          +15
          Second, there is no amnesty for those who have previously committed a crime on the territory of the Russian Federation, up to the deprivation of citizenship of naturalized citizens and members of their families, even if their children were born already in Russia. Yes it is decimation

          Dear author, decimation is the execution of every tenth of the unit that escaped during the battle. In this case, the term "decimation" is inappropriate.
          1. Dante Alighieri
            Dante Alighieri 15 February 2023 09: 55
            +2
            In this case, the term "decimation" is inappropriate.

            Of course, there is no direct analogy. But conceptually... Decimation was practiced not as a measure of prevention, but precisely as a measure of group punishment, in order to induce the team to self-regulation and not to prevent deviations (cowardice or betrayal) within themselves. Something similar here. Simply the closest in essence form of group responsibility, when not only the perpetrator of the act is punished, but also his inner circle.
            1. Non-fighter
              Non-fighter 15 February 2023 11: 13
              +19
              Mutual responsibility is treated by group responsibility
              Not me, but one of the greats.
              As for the rest, I agree, you should not be allowed to drag your country here. You came to us, at least for earnings, at least for permanent residence? The higher country, with all the rules and customs, remains abroad. According to the "blindness" of our law enforcement and administrative bodies - to drive. As was the case with the Tsapki, the visiting brigade and the raising of old cases and statements, well, the renewal of the police. The question is who to update.
              For the rest, I agree with you.
            2. restless
              restless 16 February 2023 05: 03
              +11
              An Arab living in Israel, if he commits a crime, then the Israeli authorities will demolish his house and it doesn’t matter that his relatives lived there, so the Arabs have no desire to commit crimes, although they periodically commit them, but since the people of Israel have the right to bear arms, crimes are suppressed instantly. And in our country, almost all security organizations have abandoned firearms. So it turns out that if you want to be not a victim, get ready to be convicted, because our courts are dependent on the installations of the supreme power, and their installations are clearly against the Russian population, although there are lawless villains in any nation, but if the actions of these outcasts are not stopped, then they begin to create chaos, which ends in a lot of blood and the separation of the participants, some to the churchyard, others to prison. And who is to blame???
              1. _RUSSIAN_BEAR_
                _RUSSIAN_BEAR_ 19 February 2023 06: 48
                0
                We are following the European path. Look... everything is the same.
                1. sgrabik
                  sgrabik 20 February 2023 19: 15
                  0
                  Yes, that's exactly how it is, democracy, liberalism, tolerance, tolerance and other similar nonsense that we want after all this.
        3. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 15 February 2023 10: 42
          +41
          First of all, I want to ask the author
          = No one is going to justify the methods of the company of Nikita and Dobroslav - hitting faces has never been prestigious. =
          Does the author know other methods in similar situations? While we're being silly, the Asians, who understand only strength, will be impudent to infinity. And it's not a figure of speech, it's a reality.
          Quote: Dante
          First of all, it seems to me that it is worth transferring responsibility for the offenses that a migrant commits, not only to himself (after all, what to take from him? The maximum that awaits him is a prison term and deportation), but also to the one who hires him to work, or in the absence of such - to the person at whose invitation a native of Tajikistan, Uzbekistan or Kyrgyzstan comes to the territory of the Russian Federation. This will immediately force potential employers to approach the personnel issue more qualitatively.

          "Qualitatively approach the personnel issue" I'm embarrassed to ask - how is it?
          Asking a hired Kyrgyz whether he will commit illegal acts? If the answer is no, then hire, and if yes, then do not hire? So what? This is empty demagogy.
          There is a more efficient method. "Beat the enemy with the hands of the enemies themselves." In the event that a migrant violates even public order, the entire diaspora living in this settlement is expelled outside Russia without the right to return. Draconian method? Yes, but there is no other way. Only in this case, the entire diaspora will stand up for Russian laws and calm down their fellow tribesmen.
          1. Dante Alighieri
            Dante Alighieri 15 February 2023 11: 26
            +4
            "Qualitatively approach the personnel issue" I'm embarrassed to ask - how is it?

            Nothing more than a figure of speech, veiledly implying that the understanding on the part of the employer of the simple truth that sanctions for any crime committed by his foreign employee will be applied, including to the person of the employer himself, will force him to hire already repeatedly "tested" personalities, or refuse from the labor of foreign workers in general. Let's leave the forms of verification on the conscience of the business, after all, those guarantees that suit one may not suit another, and vice versa. And so let at least the characteristics from the mosque bring or recommendations from previous employers - why not? It doesn’t matter, the main thing is the understanding that if these guarantees turn out to be a flimsy letter, not only the migrant, but also the one who receives the main gesheft from his work will have to answer to the fullest extent of the law.
            In the event that a migrant violates even public order, the entire diaspora living in a given settlement is expelled from Russia without the right to return.

            Approximately the same thing, but in a less radical style, I suggested.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 15 February 2023 19: 59
              +3
              Quote: Dante
              It doesn’t matter, the main thing is the understanding that if these guarantees turn out to be a flimsy letter, not only the migrant, but also the one who receives the main gesheft from his work will have to answer to the fullest extent of the law.

              Show me in the Criminal Code all the "strictness of the law in relation to the employer", whose employee has violated the law. When you find it, then we'll talk. My proposal does not need to be supplemented in the Criminal Code. It is enough to make a decision in the regional, district, city, rural administration. Those. this can be decided by local authorities. Example? Please - Kondopoga.
        4. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 15 February 2023 11: 43
          +17
          The maximum that awaits him is a prison term and deportation), but also to the one who employs him, or in the absence of such, to the person at whose invitation a native of Tajikistan, Uzbekistan or Kyrgyzstan comes to the territory of the Russian Federation. This will immediately force potential employers to approach the personnel issue more legibly, and all kinds of "relatives" to think about whether they want, if something happens, to be responsible for the "jambs" of their relatives with their own skin.
          So "entrepreneurs" are already paying for it! To law enforcement agencies so that their workforce is not offended by locals, hence the conclusion: Locals will ALWAYS be beaten! I live in a not small town in a "gangster" area, and only due to this, "labor force" is not produced here. In other "non-gangster" areas, several local guys have already been imprisoned for "exceeding the necessary self-defense", when, for example, five people attacked a guy with a girl and were beaten by caring passers-by.
        5. Nicola
          Nicola 15 February 2023 13: 43
          +17
          I support every word! In many schools in the region, more than half of the students are the children of migrants. This is where the development of Russia begins slowly. Migrants come with money, or diasporas are settled.
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 15 February 2023 21: 32
            +10
            Quote: Nicola
            I support every word! In many schools in the region, more than half of the students are the children of migrants. This is where the development of Russia begins slowly. Migrants come with money, or diasporas are settled.

            in general, it’s very interesting, at first all these .. ahem ... migrants yelled why do we need Russia! Then they yelled at the suitcase, Russia station! They began to live "happily" in their villages and ditches, graze sheep, eat apricots .. But there is no happiness .... They flooded herds to the Russians they hate ... to Russia. The question arises . Why do we need them at all? Us citizens of Russia? They are needed by hucksters from the construction business, hucksters from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, from the authorities to cut loot from these migrants ... Maybe the citizens of Russia do not need such figures? Since they do not care about the Russian people! After all, it puffs across the country, blood will flow .. mom do not worry ...
        6. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
          Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 15 February 2023 13: 46
          +13
          Quote: Gardamir
          Unfortunately, I am forced to admit the fact that there is a wholesale replacement of the indigenous population of Russia with immigrants from Central Asia.

          There are 105 million Russians in Russia today and they will be completely replaced as the indigenous population, Asian migrants are not able to speak at all.

          Another issue is that migrants never live alone, they never go alone, they never work alone. They are always a group of several people who are well acquainted, fellow countrymen or relatives. And they are almost always opposed by one representative of the indigenous population, without relatives, without friends or acquaintances. Who will win in any conflict or clash is obvious!
          A great influence on the unwillingness of the indigenous to help the indigenous is exerted by the massive imposition of the opinion that the diaspora will redeem the migrant for sure, and the indigenous will definitely be imprisoned for inciting nat. strife!
          In addition, with the connivance of local authorities, sports departments and under the patronage of near-sports formations, such as power martial arts, “memei-type clubs are massively created in cities and towns of Russia, where such militant migrant gangs are formed.
          But according to reports on the development of sports in the field, everything is fine, the beautiful marquise, "athletes" are multiplying, "competitions" are being held!
          Only the lazy did not write about the relationship of law enforcement agencies with diasporas and other national forms.
          Try Ivan Ivanovich to stand with a bucket of cucumbers by the road in a Ryazan town or village - in twenty minutes he will be attracted for illegal business, fined, ripped off like a sticky and he will never dare to repeat it again, but to the dark-haired sellers who filled up all the exits with their boxes from the Moscow metro and the sidewalks of Voronezh with Rostov, miraculously no one comes up! The question is why?! Where are all these local guardians of law and order of ours?
          It got to the point that zones that were informally "red" and black "places turned into" green "with all the ensuing features of the regime and serving the sentence.
          I always say: we have no worse enemy for us than ourselves. Corruption, nepotism, lack of professionalism, lack of a national idea, censure of patriotism - all this successfully destroys what they conquered and created before, but does not promise anything good ahead!
          1. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 15 February 2023 14: 16
            +3
            Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
            I always say: we have no worse enemy for us than ourselves. Corruption, nepotism, lack of professionalism, lack of a national idea, censure of patriotism - all this successfully destroys what they conquered and created before, but does not promise anything good ahead!

            And who are we? Are you suggesting that I take the blame for corrupt officials or traffic cops? Or do you want to tell me here about fair elections? If you are hinting at how you met the pension reform in France, then yes, we are to blame!
            1. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
              Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 15 February 2023 14: 32
              +11
              We ourselves are just you and me. Who is a corrupt traffic cop is our neighbor. Who is a bribe taker or a dishonest official is our classmate, colleague, acquaintance .... We ourselves have been raising Us for years and who should be blamed for Tajik doctors or Kyrgyz builders ?! Or did our city mayors and the governors sitting with them in the zones come from the moon?! No, they are also We, and if so, then We are to blame for all our troubles.
              1. alekseykabanets
                alekseykabanets 15 February 2023 14: 47
                +4
                Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
                We ourselves are just you and me. Who is a corrupt traffic cop is our neighbor. Who is a bribe taker or a dishonest official is our classmate, colleague, acquaintance .... We ourselves have been raising Us for years and who to blame, for Tajik doctors or Kyrgyz builders ?! Or did our city mayors and the governors sitting with them in the zones come from the moon?! No, they are also We, and if so, then We are to blame for all our troubles.

                The answer to the question of what to do with all this falls under a number of articles of the Criminal Code.)))
                1. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
                  Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 15 February 2023 14: 50
                  +5
                  Your words would be in the ears of the prosecutors! Sometimes I think that even if the law is bad, it must be strictly observed.
                  1. alekseykabanets
                    alekseykabanets 15 February 2023 14: 59
                    +7
                    Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
                    Sometimes I think that even if the law is bad, it must be strictly observed.

                    "When I come to a foreign country, I never ask if the laws are good or bad. I only ask if they are enforced." Doomed City (Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)
              2. Maverick1812
                Maverick1812 15 February 2023 16: 34
                +3
                Exactly! My father always told a parable: three Asiatics are sitting. One says, I built a house, you, Ahmed, built a house, but Mamed did not. Let's help him!
                Three Russians are sitting. One says, I was sitting, you, Vanya was sitting, but Vasya was not sitting. Let's plant!
                1. Beringovsky
                  Beringovsky 15 February 2023 17: 33
                  +6
                  Quote: Maverick1812
                  Exactly! My father always told a parable: three Asiatics are sitting. One says, I built a house, you, Ahmed, built a house, but Mamed did not. Let's help him!
                  Three Russians are sitting. One says, I was sitting, you, Vanya was sitting, but Vasya was not sitting. Let's plant!

                  Good tale.
                  But why, then, do Mameds flock to Russia in droves for a good life, and not vice versa? Why are beautiful Mameds living in shit at home?
              3. Beringovsky
                Beringovsky 15 February 2023 17: 30
                +7
                Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
                We ourselves are just you and me. Who is a corrupt traffic cop is our neighbor ..,

                Yeah, right now ... If everyone is to blame, then no one is innocent. No guilty, bingo!
                Cheap verbiage, Señor Pereira. I'm not a traffic cop neighbor, I didn't raise him. I didn’t give him a bribe and didn’t watch him on the road. No need to shift his sins onto me. Here, to each his own, each must be responsible for his own actions.
                Propagandons and demagogues lured by the authorities successfully use techniques similar to yours. They smear the specific guilt of specific people throughout society, thereby leading the culprits themselves into the shadows. Arrowheads, damn it.
                That's when, instead of the notorious deshman "we", specific names will be voiced, then things will move for the better.
                1. Akuzenka
                  Akuzenka 15 February 2023 18: 16
                  +6
                  That's when, instead of the notorious deshman "we", specific names will be voiced, then things will move for the better.
                  This is why democrats and liberals hate the times of so-called Stalinism. There was a specific PERSONAL responsibility of an official who could easily be "innocently repressed" in court. And the fact that he sat down under a criminal article was "attributed" to him. And the current ones have nothing to fear, except that they become insolent, like some governors, and stop sharing.
                2. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
                  Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 15 February 2023 21: 04
                  +3
                  Great! Well, tell me, my folk hero, how happy you live in your sunny city with diamond traffic cops and a sunny mayor?! I suppose you wash the floors in the entrance yourself and aromatize the air ....
                  For me, it’s your words that are propaganda tricks exacerbated by my “extremeness”!
                  Everything that you do not like today in your life is created by your-our own hands!
                  We can sneer at rotten Europe as much as we like, but urine stinks in Our elevators that spin in Our porches! And who lives in them?
          2. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 15 February 2023 15: 04
            +5
            In addition, with the connivance of local authorities, sports departments and under the patronage of near-sports formations, such as power martial arts, “memei-type clubs are massively created in cities and towns of Russia, where such militant migrant gangs are formed.
            I will upset you. Not with connivance, but with warm approval! For this is a ready tool for coercion and oppression of the locals. It is profitable for the capitalist, but for now it will be profitable. This is another reason why the Russian Federation will NEVER allow a civilian short-barrel and NEVER put self-defense laws in order. So that the locals could not protect themselves. He defended himself, friends, acquaintances, a girl, a passer-by, a family - he went to jail! And it doesn't matter that there are three of them, and you piled one on them. I already inspire my children, they attacked you - you piled on them and run away from there, the police will make you guilty and put you in jail! There was already a precedent with my son, he did not believe me. I had to get into debt, buy it out. Okay, the girl's parents helped, completely disinterestedly.
            1. alekseykabanets
              alekseykabanets 15 February 2023 15: 54
              +3
              Quote: AKuzenka
              Not with connivance, but with warm approval! For this is a ready tool for coercion and oppression of the locals.

              Not everything is so simple, I have an ARB and cycling in my village, my people go to the ARB, they go with pleasure, in Armavir and Labinsk there have long been good wrestling and sambo-judo schools, locals go to Russians, and Armenians, and Circassians. MMA, as for me, is a natural continuation of wrestling (boxing), it is a tool, nothing more. It is important that today there is no educational work in the sports sections, and how to conduct it if we all see what is happening around.
              Quote: AKuzenka
              I already inspire my children, they attacked you - you piled on them and run away from there, the police will make you guilty and put you in jail!

              Alas, today it is an axiom, I inspire the same in my own! And they should have their own company friendly and not small, otherwise there is nothing to oppose to all this!
              1. Akuzenka
                Akuzenka 15 February 2023 18: 10
                0
                Not everything is so simple, I have an ARB and cycling in my village, my people go to the ARB, they go with pleasure, in Armavir and Labinsk there have long been good wrestling and sambo-judo schools, locals go to Russians, and Armenians, and Circassians. MMA, as for me, is a natural continuation of wrestling (boxing), it is a tool, nothing more. It is important that today there is no educational work in the sports sections, and how to conduct it if we all see what is happening around.
                It's lucky for you. I described a completely ordinary case. Yours is out of the ordinary.
                1. alekseykabanets
                  alekseykabanets 15 February 2023 18: 27
                  +8
                  Quote: AKuzenka
                  It's lucky for you. I described a completely ordinary case. Yours is out of the ordinary.

                  Rather, I live in the outback, the cities are small and the "children of Khusnulin" have not yet reached there. In general, I lived in Navoi and served urgently in a construction battalion, I know the mentality of the representatives of Central Asia well, they are strong in a flock. You can only resist them in an organized manner, then they are afraid. However, bureaucrats covering them are a big problem.
        7. gsev
          gsev 15 February 2023 18: 48
          +6
          Quote: Dante
          And third. The activity of diasporas should be put under strict control.

          It is useful to learn from Canada's experience. There, teachers interview schoolchildren on a weekly basis and, based on the results of the survey, the state can take quite strict measures against both students and parents. The militants from Afghanistan, who killed more than one person in their homeland, in Canada do not dare to cross the street at a red light. However, for this, the personality of the teacher from humiliation and insult must also be protected by law and from thugs-hoolinans and from high-ranking parents and their unbelted children. While in Russia youth hooligans are learning impunity by bullying Russian singing teachers.
          1. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 15 February 2023 19: 07
            +2
            Quote: gsev
            It is useful to learn from Canada's experience. There, teachers weekly interview schoolchildren and, according to the results of the survey ...

            It won't help. Look at the countries of the USA and the West, especially the USA, there have long been national criminal groups (Italian, Mexican, etc.) they are covered by officials, the police, this is what is called the mafia. The same thing is happening with us. Look for who benefits.
        8. _RUSSIAN_BEAR_
          _RUSSIAN_BEAR_ 19 February 2023 06: 40
          0
          Everything is much simpler and scarier.
          Migration is a very serious business. A lot of people are involved in it. Until this people is exterminated as a class, there will be no talk of any proposed options.
          And you need to understand that 90% of the trash is coming to us. Illiterate, unprincipled scum. But another is not yet expected. Because the bulk are involved in this business.
      2. carpenter
        carpenter 15 February 2023 07: 07
        +17
        Quote: ASAD
        They also almost imprisoned at first, it turns out that there is a whole clan in the government of the region

        In Europe, the dominance of Arabs and Negroes in power has long been going on. If this is not stopped, then soon the Russians will become slaves of the Asians.
      3. Machito
        Machito 15 February 2023 07: 19
        +29
        They told such a story.
        Parents sent their children to school to study in the first grade. More than half of the children in the class are children of migrants who do not speak Russian well, which is why the class falls behind in learning according to the school curriculum. As a result, by the New Year, Russian children were far behind in studying the school curriculum, but they spoke Kyrgyz quite well. Parents of Russian children asked a reasonable question: Why did we send our children to this school? To make them stupid Kyrgyz? Who needs it? For what?
        Long live the Fourth International!!!
        Mouth front!!! soldier
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 15 February 2023 09: 08
          +12
          Long live the Fourth International!!!
          He was already the fourth. Trotsky organized it. Here we need to talk about the fifth.
      4. AAK
        AAK 15 February 2023 08: 12
        +36
        Unfortunately, banal corruption takes place most often, the heads of local administrations and the Ministry of Internal Affairs very often sit on the “feeding” of diasporas, for money, for free goods in migrant outlets, sometimes they hand over some petty criminals from foreign diasporas (Uzbeks - Tajiks etc.), so very often the police are not allowed to work on migrants by their own leaders. Sometimes an office grazes among the diasporas, but those have an iron cover - such as the fight against terrorism and international drug trafficking ... indeed, there are identified drug trafficking channels and detained terrorists and sympathizers, but more often - bakshish-makshish, peacock-mavlin, kurultai-murultai
        1. nickname7
          nickname7 15 February 2023 11: 24
          +5
          most often there is banal corruption, the heads of local administrations and the Ministry of Internal Affairs very often sit on the “feeding” of diasporas,

          All the same, the victims had to go through the legal path of struggle, to file allegations of extortion, if the matter goes sluggishly to involve journalists.
          1. gsev
            gsev 15 February 2023 19: 13
            +2
            Quote: nickname7
            The victims still had to visit the legal path of struggle

            I once had to act as an intermediary between the son of an Afghan general who had problems with the Chechen roof in the Moscow market and an employee, apparently of the FSB. The FSB officer directly advised the Afghans to either shoot the Chechens or pay tribute to them. According to him, then the FSB roof was much more expensive than the Chechen one. The legal path implied the imminent flight of the plaintiff from Russia or the impossibility for the Afghan to conduct any business in Russia. On the other hand, the FSB and the police quite effectively prevent interethnic conflicts. The market where this conflict took place in Moscow was liquidated about 10 years ago. I suppose that now appealing to law enforcement officers is more effective than it was 15 years ago. Ethnic gangs are forced to keep their diasporas within certain limits. For example, the CIA fails to inflate the conflict between the Slavs and the Finno-Ugric peoples, although Putin's Western partners are working very hard in this direction. In addition, any businessman seeks not to hire a robber element. In many ways, the problem of the influx of inadequate foreigners in Russia is a small payment for conscientious work, especially intellectual work. Therefore, capable Kyrgyz from both Kyrgyzstan and Russia go to work in South Korea. Having settled there to work at the post office, you can bring home about $ 100 for each day of work, with knowledge of the South Korean language one and a half times more. True, it is not dollars that should be brought from Korea, but electronics that are sold in Russia. Otherwise, losses in the exchange of currency.
      5. not the one
        not the one 15 February 2023 10: 35
        +15
        The law must be respected first and foremost by the authorities.
        It would be nice if it finally came to them.
        1. SoloD
          SoloD 15 February 2023 13: 08
          +12
          So it is observed ... only selectively.
          If you force them to comply completely, then the whole elite will sit down without a chance, and this is "respected" (in fact, these "people" simply seized power, often by illegal or vile ways, and I personally do not feel respect for them (sorry, good word izmarali)) will not go on their own.
          Therefore, laws will be adopted, but they will be executed when they need to, and not you.
          1. Taimen
            Taimen 17 February 2023 16: 16
            +1
            What kind of observance of the law can we talk about? When in 91 "bad people" came to power without asking the people. And now our people are being forced out of the face of the earth. And no one bears any responsibility, and they are even reassigned to new places with promotions. Yes and who gave the right to create some kind of "diasporas" in the country. These are the real bandit formations that are not subject to punishment. Or has the money completely filled the head of our government, that they are completely crazy and do not understand how everything can end? Or are the whole world invited here to become "Russians"? The borders are open, not a country, but a passage yard. Such an attitude towards one's people will not lead to good.
            1. sgrabik
              sgrabik 20 February 2023 19: 19
              0
              But what about democracy, liberalizm, tolerance, tolerance???
      6. insafufa
        insafufa 15 February 2023 14: 52
        -3
        Skinheads should sit on the bunk with juvenile racketeers.
        We kill the Nazis on the Ruin, and shield our own double standards.
        The law is equal for everyone, if the extortionist should sit, if the skinhead should also live there. The most famous Nazi in Ruin was also from Chelyabinsk
        https://fishki.net/anti/4263515-legenda-vsu-iz-cheljabinska-podorvalasy-na-ukromine-na-donbasse.html
        "Legend of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" from Chelyabinsk was blown up in the ukromin in the Donbass
      7. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 17 February 2023 13: 24
        +1
        Quote: ASAD
        At first they almost imprisoned me too, it turns out that there is a whole clan in the regional government. Ate they recaptured the man.

        This clan feeds on them, so it defends its flock. You can't take money from the people. We need to start with the prosecutor's office. Complete inactivity.
    2. krops777
      krops777 15 February 2023 05: 39
      +16
      Only severely punishing for it ... and nothing else.


      And how did the media present it all, I want to call them swear words, but it’s impossible, I immediately realized that something was wrong here and how to punish them to deprive them of their licenses?
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 15 February 2023 07: 41
      +41
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      As GDP says, they beat the weak ...

      Throw you this citation of empty balabolstvo. He said so much that people do not know where to kiss him for the science of "surviving."
      Guests from the south have been doing this since the time of EBN (or tell you how the Russians left the “brothers” who “saw the light” and felt their national greatness ...
      And, isn't this what the Bandera people demonstrate? And the amnesty of the “Azovites” is not a ostentatious action?
      In the absence of protection from the legitimate authorities, citizens can apply (choose) other protection or organize it according to the principle of well-known structures.
      The authorities in Moscow let everything take its course, and the affairs in the provinces worry her "insofar as".
      Who prevents to organize the correct migration policy? Who is forcing you to keep the borders open? Why do people who come to work in Russia not know basic spoken Russian? How are those responsible for using illegal migrants as labor force punished?
      And I'll tell you this. Paid and bought everything from the bottom to the top. This Russian hard worker hardly gives a ruble earned for a bribe. In diasporas and other communities, everything is sorted out by an elder who does not work, but collects “taxes” from those who work precisely to resolve such problems.
      * * *
      I'll tell you honestly: gloomy thoughts arise in me from the methods of fulfilling guarantees in which the death of Russians remains unanswered.
      1. not the one
        not the one 15 February 2023 10: 38
        +20
        Paid and bought everything from the bottom to the top. This Russian hard worker hardly gives a ruble earned for a bribe. In diasporas and other communities, everything is sorted out by an elder who does not work, but collects “taxes” from those who work precisely to resolve such problems.
        So it is. I won’t even ask the region - it’s like that everywhere ..
    4. insafufa
      insafufa 15 February 2023 08: 59
      -18
      The whole article is nationalist and is saturated with charity for people from Central Asia. With tons of templates.
      All lynchings end in the same way. The instigators are at large, local on the bunk. Just ignorance and pressure on brute force will not solve the problem. Skinhead patrols create problems for themselves. In St. Petersburg, after participating in the second company in the Caucasus at a disco, a crowd of local skins with the slogan beat the chocks rushed at us, well, think of it, there were 2 Russians, 2 Tuvans, 1 Dagestan and 3 Tatars sat peacefully talking with the girls, and the shaved ones, as they got it in the neck, ran to fix beatings in the department.
      IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO IS BANDITS BY NATIONALITY THEY ARE BANDITS. TRANSLATION OF THIS CONFLICT INTO THE PLANE OF NATIONAL INTER-ETHNIC CONFLICT IS THE WORST THING THESE ARTICLES CAN DO IN THE PERIOD OF THE SVO WHEN WE STILL DID NOT ENOUGH AND INTERNAL DIFFERENCES
      \
      There was a gang of young Russian guys in Ufa in the 90s who stood near the Bashkir gymnasium and put their students on the counter, so their relatives beat them up, then they were imprisoned for beating, these schmucks went to the department to record the beatings and write a statement. In the city of Sibay, Bashkortostan, there was a case 2 years ago. Caucasians humiliated a local girl by pouring beer over her head. Locals, without waiting for our conversations with representatives of this community, went and beat Caucasians burned the trailer where they lived. support. The Caucasians were still forced to apologize to the girl and pay compensation for damaged property, but her brother is in prison.
      PS
      he who has not mastered his emotions is always in prison, even if he is right. Unfortunately, to whom I come to the conclusion from the experience of my life
      Lynching is not a thankful thing, and for this you will be punished, since the state will not give you the right to violence.
      1. GIS
        GIS 15 February 2023 10: 28
        +13
        Ansaf, do you think everyone despises? no not like this. people from Central Asia are treated normally, BUT EXACTLY UNTIL they begin to violate established moral norms and rules. as they rightly said above, "you don't have to bring YOUR ASIA here" - Russia is here. and you have to live with respect for those to whom you came. if a child born already in the Russian Federation does not know how to speak Russian properly, then the question is for his parents: why didn’t you teach him ??? don't want to or can't?
        and as for skins and chocks, well, only the observance of the law by ALL parties and the AUTHORITY will solve this dispute
        1. insafufa
          insafufa 15 February 2023 10: 44
          +2
          Quote: GIS
          Russia is here. and you have to live respecting those to whom you came

          Well, an example in the Russian Federation, the region differs from the region. Students from Central Asia in our region quickly realized that molesting students in a hostel here is fraught with the fact that they were quickly put on bunk beds and that's all, and they quickly tempered their ardor. Or else a citizen of the Russian Federation arrives from his region where it is customary for them once he treated you so she is now obliged to you to jump into bed, they also reassured them once and for all and explained that this is not customary with us. All of them immediately break down the templates and they start whining here. The Russian Federation is not Central Asia; this is the same for people from Central Asia and citizens of the Russian Federation.
      2. alekseykabanets
        alekseykabanets 15 February 2023 20: 07
        +6
        Quote: insafufa
        Lynching is not a thankful thing, and for this you will be punished, since the state will not give you the right to violence.

        It is clear that lynching is bad.
        Quote: insafufa
        locals without waiting for our conversations with representatives of this community

        And how is this to be understood? What conversations? With what community? And where is the state with the right to violence? The fact that nationals live in communities is not normal, but the fact that some people, on behalf of the community, "resolve issues" with officials in their favor (which is actually what the article is about) is generally unacceptable! I grew up in Armavir, we always had three main nationalities, Russians, Armenians and Circassians did not have any communities, they did not fight on national grounds. A trouble for the local population, if the state encourages the situation when nationals live in diasporas and protect such diasporas to the detriment of the local population, then ethnic criminal groups appear.
        Quote: insafufa
        There was a gang of young Russian guys in Ufa in the 90s who stood near the Bashkir gymnasium and put their students on the counter, so their relatives beat them up, then they were imprisoned for beating, these schmucks went to the department to record the beatings and write a statement.

        Gavnyuk, he has no nationality and always runs to the prosecutor's office as soon as he receives an answer. Ethnic conflicts will only grow, locals always believe that migrants are taking their jobs, which is not far from the truth, but no one wants to think that it is not migrants who are to blame.
    5. Mikhalych
      Mikhalych 15 February 2023 10: 02
      +13
      In his book "The Committee of 300" (https://avidreaders.ru/book/komitet-300.html), the late John Coleman wrote about the plans of this committee to reduce and enslave people. One of the articles of this plan is the "Theory of replacement nations", when the titular nation is replaced by newcomers who are indifferent to the traditions of the titular people. These people are oppressed, brought to the level of bleating sheep. This is possible when there is no faith in people. The Apostle Paul wrote about this: “For you, wise people, willingly endure foolish people: you endure when someone enslaves you, when someone eats, when someone robs, when someone boasts, when someone strikes you in the face (2 Corinthians: 19,20, XNUMX). )".
      At the same time, puppeteers, glorifying paganism*, lie about the Orthodox faith, saying that they are weaklings, turn the other cheek when they are hit on one. At the same time, they are modestly silent about how Orthodox warriors turned their cheeks on the Kulikovo field, the Battle of Chud knight dogs, in the Suvorov campaigns, the Battle of Borodino, etc.
      Now about who does it here in Russia. It's definitely a Polichenel's secret. It's all about the money. Greedy hucksters, using corrupt officials in the corridors of power, are trying their best and do not understand that they are sawing the branch on which they are sitting.
      Ordinary Russian people need to unite and beat impudent migrants together. At the same time, it is necessary to collectively protect those who were arrested by the police. And this must be done without any skinheads and other fans of Western communities. With God blessing.
      *- At the same time, the pagans are depicted as heroes with huge swords. How, then, did the teachings of Christ, preached by only 12 Apostles, defeat these monsters?
      1. insafufa
        insafufa 15 February 2023 10: 49
        +3
        Quote: Mikhalych
        This is possible when there is no faith in people. The Apostle Paul wrote about this: “For you, wise people, willingly endure foolish people: you endure when someone enslaves you, when someone eats, when someone robs, when someone boasts, when someone strikes you in the face (2 Corinthians: 19,20, XNUMX). )".

        You are right, these ducks have no faith, they are not afraid of God or hell. And on the contrary, they worship the Devil, Satan and distort their faith by making it convenient for their passions of flat desire.
        The spread of abomination and the increase in adultery

        The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The hour (the day of judgment (in Islam) the apocalypse (in Christianity)) will not come until abomination spreads, family ties are broken and there is no bad attitude towards neighbors.” The Messenger of Allah said: “I swear by the One in Whose Hand is my soul! This community will not disappear until a man lays a woman on the ground right on the road. And the best of the people of that time will say: “It would be better if you took refuge behind that wall!”

        Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "If you hear someone exalted by their origin, as it was in the days of Jahiliyyah, then tell him to grab his father's penis. And do not say it in other words !" (la tacnu - i.e. do not give this some kind of marten, softening words, but speak as I ordered)

        So we were warned about these times 1444 years ago.
      2. Stanislav_Shishkin
        Stanislav_Shishkin 16 February 2023 19: 57
        0
        Quote: Mikhalych
        At the same time, the pagans are depicted as heroes with huge swords.
        Like the Ukrainian hero Hrytsko Cpaka (this is not a curse, but a proper name!)
        Pay attention to the "solar cross" coquettishly bent at the ends.
    6. MONEY
      MONEY 15 February 2023 12: 25
      +8
      Your GDP says what the hell. Yes, except for shaking the air, it does nothing !!
      1. newtc7
        newtc7 15 February 2023 13: 32
        +10
        Quote: MONEY
        Your GDP says what the hell. Yes, except for shaking the air, it does nothing !!


        Indeed. The most stupid speaker in the world. In words, the defender of the Russians is in fact a bribe-taker and a great friend of the diasporas.
        1. Stanislav_Shishkin
          Stanislav_Shishkin 16 February 2023 20: 38
          -1
          Quote from: newtc7
          Quote: MONEY
          Your GDP says what the hell. Yes, except for shaking the air, it does nothing !!
          Indeed. The most stupid speaker in the world. In words, the defender of the Russians is in fact a bribe-taker and a great friend of the diasporas.
          You are quieter there, diaspora, otherwise a gift will fly from him to the TsIPSO, there will be a shaking of the air.
    7. newtc7
      newtc7 15 February 2023 13: 24
      +10
      One moment - law enforcement agencies are always on the side of migrants. In any incomprehensible situation, blame the Russian at 282 and write them down as skinheads. The system has been in operation for 25 years
    8. Romanovski
      Romanovski 15 February 2023 22: 02
      -9
      The arguments and arguments of the author of the article are clearly out of place and out of time ... Unfortunately, in the comments under this article, many couch "investigators", "lawyers" and "people's accusers" divorced ... I wonder what it can lead to MULTINATIONAL (!) Russia - someone diligently inflated the negative public outcry of the criminal offense of teenagers on international grounds ??? And all this "oil painting" in Chelyabinsk - DURING the height of the fierce battles of the RF Armed Forces against the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Ukraine ???? Haven't thought about it??? But in vain ... We'll still have to think about it ... The question arises: to whom exactly does VO provide a disservice when it publishes such articles without any hesitation and hesitation ???
      Yes, those who claim that DURING THE WAR, it is necessary to turn off all this unfiltered information flow on the Web are right.
      And all the painfully compassionate "patriots" of Russia would like to be reminded that EVERYTHING IS EQUAL before Russian LAWS, REGARDLESS OF NATIONALITY, RELIGION, PROPERTY STATUS and POSITION HOLDED ...... And you will also have to remind the local couch strategists to sometimes look through the lists of the names of HEROES RUSSIA for the entire time of NWO in Ukraine, where, in addition to Heroes with Russian surnames, there are many sons of different nationalities of Russia ....
      1. alekseykabanets
        alekseykabanets 15 February 2023 23: 06
        +8
        Quote from Romanovski
        And to all the painfully compassionate "patriots" of Russia, I would like to remind you that EVERYONE IS EQUAL before Russian LAWS, REGARDLESS OF NATIONALITY, RELIGION, PROPERTY STATUS AND POSITION HOLDED ......

        Yes, the fact of the matter is that everyone is equal before the law, but some who, let's not point fingers at them, are much more even than everyone else.)))
    9. boriz
      boriz 16 February 2023 00: 27
      +6
      It's not hard to guess how this will end.
      Soon the guys who served in the NWO will be pulled home. Lightweight on the hand. And in such situations, our "dear" guests will simply be killed. This is not a call. Simple logic.
      The authorities somehow forgot such a phenomenon as the Afghans. Many have had difficulties. There will be more who served in the NMD, the experience of constant battles, when some things are done automatically, is also incomparably more. Will everyone return unarmed? Not only "guests", but also "biased" law enforcement officers and government officials will fall under the kneading.
      So imagine what it will turn into. I don't see anything good in this. But I didn't bring it up to this situation either. So ...
    10. boni592807
      boni592807 16 February 2023 15: 32
      +2
      Lech from Android. (Lech from Android). Yesterday, 05:10. -
      "... guests from the south can clearly see who in Russia can be beaten and humiliated with impunity ... for some reason they do not beat our security forces with a crowd ... they know that they themselves will be beaten later ..."


      Glad for your naivety. but alas. I do not share. Reality versus... No.
      Look for attacks in Moscow at least. am There and on the DPS, etc. There is a video with a translation with a proposal to "drive someone" ... " crying Yes, and on DPS nicknames near Novosibirsk... Then even the armed representatives of one of the diaspora blocked the police department and demanded to extradite an employee who, defending himself from the ATTACK, took out a weapon and, in the course of the ongoing attack, as a result of the actions of the attacker (push, punch ...) led to a shot. The attacker is killed. If it were not for the intervention of a traffic police officer from Moscow, he would already be in the cell and from "just" murder. to "soft" by negligence. The family was guarded by her diaspora who threatened to kill her. Was there a video too or is there still!?
      So, what is next!?
      And nothing, just numbers - for the last year in the Russian Federation
      - "naturally" GONE- more than 500 thousand people.
      - stopped by 15 ml. "hard-working. law-abiding and simply NECESSARY."
      And how many unemployed in the Russian Federation. somehow uninteresting.
      For example, the governor of the Moscow Region happily announced. that MO "grew" 1.5 ml of inhabitants. It seemed. as indigenous after min-mum 8 hours of working time without being distracted by sleep. how rabbits not only "replenished" the so-called "NATURAL" decline. But also "GROWTH" in one MO AZH per 1.5 ml. residents. love But for some reason it's not FUNNY! Especially after reading the reports of the IMF and the FSB for only one MO. bully And so "everything is fine, beautiful marquise and things are going well ..." - Utyosov had a good song and on topic. hi
    11. Master 2030
      Master 2030 16 February 2023 15: 43
      -4
      In the first photo, 3 out of 4 persons involved have very characteristic hairstyles. On the second, it is not at all clear who is beating whom. On the third, it is impossible to establish the nature of the hairstyle for the defendant on the right - his head is covered with his hands, the defendant on the left has a characteristic hairstyle.
      I'm not asserting anything, just thoughts of impression and observation.
    12. Shelest2000
      Shelest2000 16 February 2023 18: 01
      +1
      I'm sorry, but the government is just the same in the know. Or do you think that such behavior of visiting barmaley did not go unnoticed by her? Come on ... All this happens with her filing and under her leadership. Of which I am 100% sure. I don’t pump it up and don’t throw it in, but everyone can see it perfectly themselves.
    13. Turtle
      Turtle 17 February 2023 23: 21
      +1
      It is quite easy to stop this - it is significant to throw out several heads of diasporas who have screwed up to their homeland, without money and the opportunity to ever return. Land years on five perpetrators of the conflict and employees of the FMS (if the guests have questionable documents). Cruelty must breed fear, and order is always based on fear.
  2. Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 15 February 2023 05: 24
    +44
    As a Chelyabinsk citizen, alas, he is actually completely sure that those Uzbek bandits will come out of the water dry.
    Our local authorities are much more accustomed and more comfortable to put pressure on their fellow citizens. In addition, we have a lot of diasporas and they are large / influential (the region is borderline).
    1. your vsr 66-67
      your vsr 66-67 15 February 2023 06: 27
      +31
      Quote: Kuroneko
      As a Chelyabinsk citizen, alas, he is actually completely sure that those Uzbek bandits will come out of the water dry.
      Our local authorities are much more accustomed and more comfortable to put pressure on their fellow citizens. In addition, we have a lot of diasporas and they are large / influential (the region is borderline).

      Local authorities everywhere and everywhere get good money from these "diasporas"!
    2. not the one
      not the one 15 February 2023 10: 40
      +18
      I am sure that those Uzbek bandits will come out of the water dry.
      We all see the policy of the authorities in this matter. And you are not the only one who doubts that they will answer according to the law.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 15 February 2023 05: 28
    +17
    Again, this is what businessmen and officials say. Citizens of Russia will not go to work for the money offered to foreigners. Whether they tried to increase wages - employers are modestly silent about this.
    The author modestly omitted the discussion of this topic. And this is where the problems described below arise.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 15 February 2023 06: 43
      +18
      Quote: parusnik
      The author modestly omitted the discussion of this topic.

      What is there to parse? And so everything is clear to everyone - we need the rule of law, before which everyone is equal ... There are no other recipes and there will not be.
      1. not the one
        not the one 15 February 2023 10: 42
        +18
        Yes, that's just the notorious "two-eight-two" is not for them. For us.
  4. KCA
    KCA 15 February 2023 05: 28
    +8
    If somewhere in a specific place, law enforcement officers are ready for each other, and not just visitors, to love in a specific place for a small share, this is not a problem for the whole country, in our country, for example, in the most specific place from Moscow time they go quieter than water, lower than grass , if anything, the authorities will first apply combat camouflage, then into a glass and, at least, to Zagorsk, none of Sergiev-Posad for 15 days, well, then our fairest court, they also don’t lisp with nationalities
  5. valera75
    valera75 15 February 2023 05: 36
    +20
    Nothing will happen to them, the authorities have already announced an increase in gastro-workers in Russia and acknowledged the increase in crime among migrants, pointing out that nothing can be done about it and we must put up with it. they won’t be fired. So we live on and everything will continue until the people react harshly somewhere, and then they will show it on TV a couple of times and start discussing the topic of crime among migrants, then a couple of people will be sent home and everything will continue as it was. Trust me it will be so. In our country, this problem has not been solved for decades, it is not being solved, and unfortunately it will never be solved.
  6. VicktorVR
    VicktorVR 15 February 2023 05: 37
    -23
    I myself can not stand those who come in large numbers, but in this article a lot is turned inside out.
    There is other information that the conflict has been going on for many years.
    That the arrow was initially clogged, the locals were initially in the minority, but they called for help, as a result, the non-locals began to scatter and ran to the school, which had nothing to do with it at all.

    In this case, questions to all participants. What was this shaved gang waiting for in the apartment?
    1. not the one
      not the one 15 February 2023 10: 45
      +14
      In this case, the question is specifically for the "come in large numbers." And to a greater extent to local law enforcement officers - what the hell did they look at for how many years on extortions.
      1. VicktorVR
        VicktorVR 15 February 2023 11: 08
        -4
        Have you thought about fees?

        The skinheads are a gang, unequivocally, without brains in their heads.
        Watch a video on a local news site of them beating up opponents at school while brandishing a gun (gas). How small children scatter in horror
        Well, at the same time as adults stand and watch.
        https://74.ru/text/criminal/2023/02/09/72046580/
  7. Des
    Des 15 February 2023 05: 39
    +23
    I live 100 km from Chelyabinsk and found out only from an article on VO. This is to that - "... the Urals are buzzing." The problem is omnipresent, not only the Urals. And it depends not only on the local administration, but on state policy. The former republics of the USSR were expelled, destroyed the Russian-speakers in their territories, and now they are filling ours. This is a general trend, unfortunately, of the relationship between Russian-speakers and representatives of other national entities.
    1. fiberboard
      fiberboard 15 February 2023 07: 13
      +32
      Well, yes, Zen has long had a bunch of articles on this fight. You need to drive them all, and from Moscow, and from the Urals, and from Novosib. In general, from Russia, and Khisnullina with them.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 15 February 2023 07: 32
        +6
        Quote: fiberboard
        In general, from Russia, and Khisnullina with them.

        Very loud but pointless. There will only be more of them, everything is in order with the birth rate there.

        The question is somewhat different
        ... for several years, some Firus and Zinatuloh ... extorted money from teenagers, took away phones. All those who disagreed were beaten ...

        Several years!
        I was here as an unwitting witness to the coupling of two "ferocious" dads. It turned out later that the boy in the class pushed the girl. Dads seriously wanted to beat each other, they barely separated ...
        And here "for years they have been robbed, squeezed, beaten" and silence, and it became "loud" only when some teenagers got up.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 17 February 2023 22: 30
          +1
          Often these are not biological fathers, but stepfathers (new husbands or cohabitants of mothers) behave so "ferociously".)
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 18 February 2023 11: 00
            0
            Quote: Sergej1972
            Often these are not biological fathers, but stepfathers (new husbands or cohabitants of mothers) behave so "ferociously".)

            Isn't it all the same? The question is different, because of everyday nonsense, they are ready to gnaw each other's throats, despite the fact that the number of real and serious problems nearby is only multiplying.
      2. far diu
        far diu 15 February 2023 07: 54
        +7
        Yeah, only in 77 years only old people will live in Russia, and the population will decrease by 2,5-3 times (excluding the Caucasus). Well, Russians do not want to breed in such conditions, even with a mat. capital, because people have become too educated, but the level of income and consumption has remained the same as it was 13 years ago. Not to mention the complete uncertainty of what will happen even in a year. Therefore, they import migrants from the CIS countries in order to somehow support the economy.
      3. single-n
        single-n 15 February 2023 08: 06
        +19
        You need to drive them all, and from Moscow, and from the Urals, and from Novosib. In general, from Russia, and Khisnullina with them.

        Yeah. Happy. They will kick you out - because you don’t bring money to the right people. But you demand all sorts of social programs, and even want to vote. And the conditional Abramovich does not care who works at his construction site. For him, all the "serfs". You still require planting for embezzlement, or confiscate property. Better go to a temple within walking distance and take comfort in the fact that they will simply die, and you, as a faithful slave and spiritual bondager, will go to heaven.
  8. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 15 February 2023 05: 40
    +2
    Quote: ASAD
    turns out to be a whole clan in the government of the region. Ate they recaptured the man.

    The markets in our city are controlled by Azerbaijanis, the Khilok market is the patrimony of guests from the southern republics ... in a way, our city is divided into zones of influence of various clans ... but they try not to advertise their activities and influence ... the topic is too sensitive.
    In the 90s, there were bloody showdowns in the city, as well as throughout Russia ... now the former bandits have legalized and are quite civilly doing their business ... everything is according to Marx smile and this same Engels.
  9. Leader_Barmaleev
    Leader_Barmaleev 15 February 2023 05: 51
    +25
    hitting faces has never been prestigious

    This is babbling in favor of the pale. WHEN THE GOOD ARGUMENTS END, THE HEIGHTY ARGUMENTS GO! So it was, so it is, and, alas, so it will be. And the slobbery position of the state, which strives to deal with the side from which it is guaranteed NOT to arrive, is incredibly infuriating. Hence the crooked laws on self-defense and the eternal flirtation with guest workers - not citizens, not the diaspora, but simply with a crowd of people who came here for money. And what is the future of such a state?
  10. valera75
    valera75 15 February 2023 06: 00
    +14
    The problem will not be solved, but it will definitely get worse, because there has already been an announcement of an increase in migrants to Russia due to a shortage of workers.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 February 2023 06: 05
    +12
    Why have law enforcement agencies been brought to such a state when interethnic conflicts have to be resolved by force?
    As I understand it, the question is purely rhetorical. When in criminal reports people who have committed crimes are afraid to attribute them to a certain nationality, but "diplomatically" they call them persons of a "Caucasian, Asian ..." ethnic group, then for some reason the question arises, what is the installation of the department or has become a habit once said? And who "covers" representatives of various diasporas and has a good income from this, which encourages concealment of crimes and allows lawlessness on the part of these persons to develop? But one has only to rebuff these lawless people, as from the side of representatives of the state, whose citizens they are, categorical notes, statements, protests are received with the designation of the perpetrators as "Russian nationalists." As long as there is an opportunity to make money on gastrobaiters, protection protection will continue, and the fear of spoiling the reports, and "diplomatic" verbal tricks will continue. If we say that the law is the same for all, then it must be so. And officials, representatives of law enforcement agencies for using their official position for personal gain, harboring, etc. must be held accountable.
  12. FoBoss_VM
    FoBoss_VM 15 February 2023 06: 07
    +31
    I absolutely agree that EVERY offense of the Asian-Caucasian representatives should be punished by law. But in ANY case, it should be expulsion to their historical homeland WITHOUT the right to cross the border of the Russian Federation for life. If the crime is administrative, then simply deportation to the village, if it is a criminal offense, then a term, imprisonment, and also to the village. And so absolutely for every individual, from the age of 14. Stumbled - went home. Only in this way ... Let them set rules in their monasteries , collect money and everything else . But for this, Putin must change his internal policy from tolerance for guests to law-abiding and the priority of the life and tranquility of his citizens, the Russian Federation. And not horsemen ... In the meantime, they kiss their ass and they will behave like at home
    1. GIS
      GIS 15 February 2023 10: 40
      +9
      the only question is with their families, who "unexpectedly" appeared in our country with these visitors. yes, workers are good, yes. family is good. but in your opinion it is necessary to send everyone then. and what will we get? ready Mujahideen?
      a question to the leadership of the country about a tough policy towards visitors, not in the expulsion of EVERYONE, but in the observance of the laws by EVERYONE and the authorities, including
    2. not the one
      not the one 15 February 2023 10: 47
      +11
      it should be expulsion to their historical homeland WITHOUT the right to cross the border of the Russian Federation for life.
      I absolutely agree. If you can’t live normally among people, go back to donkeys with your sheep. Irrevocably.
  13. samarin1969
    samarin1969 15 February 2023 06: 12
    +21
    The author cited excerpts from the sensational news, which was reposted by many telegram bloggers.
    The problem is at the intersection of education and law enforcement agencies. ASAD and others in the comments correctly write that "impunity breeds permissiveness." If adequate measures had been taken on the first complaints: deportation for attempts at bullying, then it would not have come to massacre.
    Both the police and school principals are constantly forced to minimize the "percentage" of offenses. All this abscess of juvenile delinquency is driven "under the carpet". Politics is, to put it mildly, stupid.
    1. not the one
      not the one 15 February 2023 11: 07
      +12
      "impunity breeds permissiveness"
      Here! Bring this to the authorities, otherwise they don’t know)
  14. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 15 February 2023 06: 34
    +15
    We didn’t have a clear understanding of who was creating mayhem in our kurmish. The men who had served many years taught us young people that it should be calm in our area. It’s clear that in this way they ensured a quiet life for themselves. this is not quite normal. But a simple hard worker could calmly return home with a paycheck. Then everyone dispersed. And the creation described here began.
  15. Anadyrean
    Anadyrean 15 February 2023 06: 41
    +21
    People from the East in Europe do what they want. They still brag about it. Try touch. Blacks in the states went crazy. They kiss their feet. Now they are slowly getting to us. Everything depends on the society. If society allows it, it will happen. If society is not going to tolerate the antics of the guests, the guests behave quietly.
    1. samarin1969
      samarin1969 15 February 2023 06: 46
      +14
      Quote: Anadyrean
      If society allows it, it will happen.


      Well, if there is a "society". In Russia, society is traditionally "not allowed not to allow". bully
    2. far diu
      far diu 15 February 2023 08: 07
      +11
      The proportion of blacks in the United States is declining due to the influx of educated Asians and Latinos, who are now like whites only 50 years ago (they are ready to work for minimum wage where whites do not want it and without whining).

      But Europe is really bad. There, migration comes from Africa or the Middle East, where there is a completely different culture. Another cant of Europe is that they create closed enclaves of refugees / migrants, which nullifies their assimilation.
  16. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 15 February 2023 06: 51
    +8
    Quote: samarin1969
    In Russia, society is traditionally "not allowed not to allow".

    In Russia, rebellion is traditionally merciless...everyone will be beaten, both right and wrong.
    Somehow I don’t want to fall under the hot hand of crazy people.
    Therefore, it is better to strain those in power now than to deal with the consequences later.
    1. flyer
      flyer 15 February 2023 07: 54
      +5
      Those in power are now busy disentangling another problem, which we would gladly solve if something depended on them, but alas.
  17. NSV
    NSV 15 February 2023 06: 54
    +18
    Freedom for the guys!!! They have completely lost their fear!!!! How disgusting it becomes to live in this country .... more precisely, in a country with worthless power!
  18. Kuziming
    Kuziming 15 February 2023 06: 58
    +7
    In one fairy-tale country there were such problems:
    1. Children of merchants grew up as spoiled scum, despised all those who are poorer, and did not buy a self-running carriage. They themselves were very sick, weak in mind, they only walked with saucers with pouring apples, and watched magical pictures. And their parents indulged them in everything, promised to buy everything, and whipped governesses, doctors, and teachers with rods.
    2. From childhood, the children of convicts prepared to live in prison, learned special words and songs, tried all kinds of dope that you can drink, chew, and inhale with smoke. They were weak in mind, frail in body, did not like to work.
    3. Parents of merchants were smart, they gave bribes a lot, they were clever in fraudulent schemes. They hired dekhans in a distant country, bullied them in every possible way for little money. And they themselves built stone houses for themselves, and bought self-running carriages.
    4. The royal archers knew about the fraudulent schemes, and they had money from them.
    5. Children of dekhans lived in that kingdom sometimes together with their parents. And not everyone already wanted to become dekhans. Someone was about to go to the royal archers,
    developed strength; someone wanted to become a merchant, he taught crafty numbers. Someone wanted to live in a prison, but he also pumped strength so that he could lie on the upper bunk and not do menial work.
    But everyone also wanted to have stone houses and self-running carts.
    And they had fights with children of merchants and children of convicts.
    6. The royal archers were too lazy to stop those fights themselves, and kept the children of convicts with them, whom they fed with little money. Those lured gangs frightened the children of the dekhans, and the rest could not look at them without fear, for the members of those gangs looked fierce.
    And if those members of the gangs go too far, the archers did not have any self-interest to spare them - they will send them to hard labor, but they will recruit others.

    A fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it ...
  19. Gardamir
    Gardamir 15 February 2023 07: 00
    +18
    There are two points, if the authorities want to, as usual, put Russian, then the hammers will find. Remember. as a mobilized "beat" an officer.
    And here the second moment begins, while Russians are dying in the Donbass, guests from the south take power in Russian cities. No, I understand it differently. They are fighting against Nazism.
    Only as long as we live by the principle of this is another, Russia is dying.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 15 February 2023 07: 10
      -6
      The chief prosecutor of Russia should intervene in the process of inactivity of persons on whom the solution of this problem depends ... a couple of visits with a warning about going to jail for negligence should move the rusted state car.
      1. single-n
        single-n 15 February 2023 08: 09
        +15
        Hm. Are you suggesting that the heads of the prosecutor lose their regular "respect" from the diasporas? And how is it possible if the replacement of the population with migrants is the national idea of ​​​​the modern Russian Federation? Is it for him to arrange a coup d'état and rock the boat?
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 15 February 2023 12: 24
          -5
          Quote: Single-n
          Hm. Are you suggesting that the heads of the prosecutor lose their regular "respect" from the diasporas?

          Representatives of these diasporas beat, rob, kill our citizens, I regularly see this in criminal reports ... and if the prosecutor does not fulfill his functions of protecting the rule of law and protecting citizens, then he may lose not only respect for the diaspora but also posts and heads.
          The critical mass of permissiveness of visiting scumbags can crush even the chief prosecutor of the country with its weight.
          1. Tima62
            Tima62 15 February 2023 21: 10
            +4
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            and if the prosecutor

            Come on. Can you also say: If the president
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            does not fulfill its functions of protecting the rule of law and protecting citizens, then it may lose not only the respect of the diaspora, but also its position and head.
            ??
  20. bombaher
    bombaher 15 February 2023 07: 20
    +12
    Why didn’t anyone open a case against migrants for extortion by a group of people by prior conspiracy? And the fact that migrants are covered and their "business" is covered by the authorities. So it is throughout Russia. And most of them do not want to work, where the country needs. 90% is a taxi, maximum vegetables, shawarma, haircut, catering. What are they raising us, xs? They serve themselves, load our dead medicine and education. They do not want to go to construction sites for a long time. But salaries for locals are greatly underestimated in these areas, so few people go into this area, but ours still go to janitors and taxis. How many Azerbaijanis did you single out at construction sites, but how many Armenians? Uzbeks can still work as janitors, women wash floors. And also catering. But it is better to bypass such places so as not to get poisoned. In St. Petersburg, Beglov himself covers their business, judging by the stalls that appear just everywhere. And you yourself know who appointed Beglov.
  21. Scientist
    Scientist 15 February 2023 07: 25
    +11
    Here is the same corruption that they are fighting, fighting, and it is still flourishing. They brought it to someone and miraculously the bandits and hooligans turn into unfortunate injured children.
    True, there are deeper layers. For a century now, we have had a national self-consciousness for all peoples, and only the same thing for Russians is "chauvinism." Therefore, the Russian is always to blame for interethnic conflicts. And all migrants know this and use it.
    And one more side. For three decades, our "business" has been using migrants as slaves. Ten years ago I saw it personally. When people worked from morning until late at night, they lived and ate in the same place where building materials were stored, and slept on bags of cement. (Moreover, they were also commanded by a Tajik). And now their children walk the streets of our cities. Guess three times how they treat us.
  22. Vladimir80
    Vladimir80 15 February 2023 07: 33
    +6
    Firstly, the migrants in this story turned out to be smarter (smarter), and secondly, I will repeat the idea for which I am minus here - we have turned from a nation of warriors, scientists and discoverers into a nation of whiners and traders. Now we are just reaping the fruits of the 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s - "a holy place is never empty", there are simply very few of us, and there will be even fewer - and those who are braver and stronger will come to our land ...
    1. ivan2022
      ivan2022 15 February 2023 07: 38
      +5
      We read from the Bible 28 ch. Deuteronomy. Everything is described in detail there. And an explanation is given. There is nothing new on earth
    2. Scientist
      Scientist 15 February 2023 08: 16
      +14
      Not bolder, but more united. Most migrants alone are cowardly. But they always huddle together. And we have been exterminating collectivism for three decades now, it is easier to manage a crowd of individuals.
    3. fiberboard
      fiberboard 15 February 2023 09: 58
      +7
      We have not turned, we have been turned for more than a hundred years. Now the last stage of transformation.
  23. sagitovich
    sagitovich 15 February 2023 07: 39
    +27
    I come from a small town in Bashkiria. Insolent Azerbaijanis, Uzbeks, Kurds, Armenians, Chechens were always beaten there. In general, those who crossed some kind of line, and began to become impudent.
    Although Bashkiria, a Muslim republic, everyone united against the newcomers, Bashkirs, Russians, Tatars, Ukrainians. We did not ask each other who and what nationality. There was a goal, insolent visitors, and fuck what nationality and religion they are.
  24. DefenderofTruth
    DefenderofTruth 15 February 2023 07: 40
    +17
    It is necessary to URGENTLY introduce a visa regime with semi-Nazi Kazakhstan, all the states of Central Asia and Transcaucasia - otherwise, rivers of Russian blood will soon flow through Russia because of the greed of hucksters!

    Russians are no longer masters in Russia.

    The policy of migrant substitution for the indigenous Russian population is the policy of genocide of the Russian people.
  25. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 15 February 2023 07: 46
    +11
    Only one question, which of the commentators knows how things are with those animals that beat a guy in the Moscow metro? Let all these equip their countries and republics, let them build bright capitalism at home, and here we, with our bungling leaders, will die out without their help, and another question is why do Russians, when they become in power, spread rot on their compatriots?
    1. boni592807
      boni592807 16 February 2023 16: 20
      0
      Ryaruav (Ryaruav). Yesterday, 07:46. NEW - "... and here we, with our bungling leaders, will die out without their help, and one more question is why the Russians, when they come to power, spread rot on their compatriots?..."


      Oh. how you are right. belay Yes, we have a lot in common with Ukrainians HOWEVER. ТIlko they have a Svidamy Pan Zelensky. who, like a real wrestler - a Bandera member, wants to fight to the last O. Krainets for the sake of neenka O. Krayina. crying lol Like the Poles too.. в in general, "SHE has not died yet ..." in the meantime, Pan Zu's income is growing along with real estate. "Fortitude "should COST something! or what?And the Pan's parents are already in their HOMELAND (historical). however, they "yearn" for Nenka. crying bully
  26. flyer
    flyer 15 February 2023 07: 51
    +16
    A clear example of the fact that the hyped wording "Russian World" is just a propaganda cliché and that there is no "Russian World" even in Russia, not to mention its distribution outside the country. Unfortunately, many citizens of the Russian Federation thought that if we have gaps in domestic policy, then we must definitely solve any problems on the world stage, but it turned out that foreign policy is a failure. The successes of VVP and his team of "effective" managers end up only in their pockets.
    1. single-n
      single-n 15 February 2023 08: 13
      +11
      Unfortunately, many citizens of the Russian Federation thought that if we have gaps in domestic policy, then we must definitely solve any problems on the world stage, but it turned out that foreign policy is a failure. The successes of VVP and his team of "effective" managers end up only in their pockets.

      So to speak. All these "successes" that have no analogues in the world were not taken seriously until they were taken seriously. .And when they tried to shake the rights a little, then at first they lit up like suckers, and now they are crushing.
  27. Unknown
    Unknown 15 February 2023 08: 02
    +19
    We must understand a simple truth - people from Central Asia and the Caucasus must be reduced to a minimum, there are too many of them, and this poses a threat to the very existence of Russia. Here they are, they are definitely not brothers to us, neither in mentality, nor in faith. I am not a nationalist, I have always been tolerant of other peoples, and honored their customs and traditions, all the more urgent served in Turkvo .. .but I demand that they also honor my faith and traditions, otherwise they have no place in the Russian Federation. Since I had little contact with them in the service, but then, after the collapse of the Union for work in Moscow, Bryansk, and quite a lot in my area, then my opinion, and no one will convince me, they understand and respect - only strength and confidence in themselves. On the laws of the Russian Federation, they spat from a high tower. Any indulgence, concession, is perceived as weakness, and the laws of only their own community and that's it. They are everywhere, even where there weren’t even a few years ago. If it goes like this, then there will be a pipe. Any market in the regional center is firmly occupied by them, some kind of cheburek, all kinds of shurma and they are constantly crowded there. Previously, some came, but now already all kagalom, a lot of women's children. Everything in Russia bustNo matter how harsh it may sound, it is necessary to catch them back to their homeland, to Babai Rakhmonov and the rest of the khans of Central Asia, so let them look for something to do with them there. But not at the expense of Russia to send, no, let them work out socially useful, and go home with this money. Okay, I was dreaming, this will not happen, so the future is already so sad, and then there is this problem.
    1. DefenderofTruth
      DefenderofTruth 15 February 2023 08: 56
      +17
      The government of the Russian Federation is the government of hucksters who sell their homeland wholesale and retail.
      It is it that brings in crowds of natives as a gratuitous labor force, without thinking about the consequences for the indigenous peoples of Russia.
      And the consequences will inevitably be bloody religious and inter-ethnic wars and rivers of Russian blood will flow throughout Russia.
      These local conflicts are just the sparks of a big fire.
  28. Maximus19
    Maximus19 15 February 2023 08: 06
    +16
    Everything is clear, our law enforcement agencies behave as if they are not ours, but their law enforcement agencies. I would be very surprised if these "guests" were punished or even more fantastic - deported, unfortunately this is the truth of life. But here
    for several years, certain Firus and Zinatuloh mastered the local glade, that is, extorted money from teenagers, took away phones.
    this is the most surprising. Really for several years no one explained to them that it is impossible to do this, especially in a foreign country? Really in a few years only Nikita and Dobroslav dared to fight back? If this is so, then it is doubly sadder even than our "st_learned" organs.
    1. GIS
      GIS 15 February 2023 10: 49
      +3
      what if they were born here? i.e. they are in their own country. but the fact that no one explained to them what is good and what is bad, it came from their family. and this is a minus for the government and those who represent our government on the ground
      1. boni592807
        boni592807 16 February 2023 17: 09
        0
        GIS (Ildus). Yesterday, 10:49. NEW - "...and if they were born here? i.e. they are in their own country..."

        Dear Ildus hi . Never surprised by the names of friends. colleagues, incl. in civilian life - Ilya. Khalil. Rustam. Ruslan and Rika (Ricardo is the son of one of the children who was rescued from Spain by Franco). All were indigenous. As Russians now say with their grandfathers who fought. grandmothers during WWII. working. who served in and for Russia (RI. USSR and RF). fellow
        After "natural" departure from the late 80s and into the 90s(min 500 thousand per year) in the RF indigenous. began to OFFER to bring in guests from the former and VERY fraternal. Where, from the end of the 80s, the native Russians sent to these fraternal Russians to raise them from the Middle Ages to socialism were introduced to the local national tradition of gratitude for the cities. education. created by the IM of the country and state power with writing. Briefly - "carving on the Russian "tree" with elements of rape." Who could and managed to return to the Russian Federation. But. it's still a philosophy.
        And now a question for YOU!
        For example :
        You live in YOUR apartment at YOUR HOME! But one day the Director of the UK reports. that the plumbers have DISAPPEARED. belay Where .... see previously ..
        On the basis of Their disappearance, YOU are informed. that the plumber IS. but until it APPEARS from YOUR indigenous ones. good
        After. already informs. what a good one. not REPLACEABLE worker - pro. But. it is necessary to settle it for a TIME in YOUR apartment at the plumbing TROUBLE at home. lol Settled. Then one day you notice. that the plumber MEANED you as the OWNER of the apartment and THEM (there are ALREADY more plumbers than your family). You are no longer rude, but it knocks on your face. With your wife in the bedroom, THEM will close somewhat and you will not be allowed. Plumbers HER (your wife is shown lollipops). The daughter is persuaded to cohabitate and the daughter and son are slipped "indulge" nonsense. Father and mother survived. am You are in UC. and they are in the "trend" and inform you out of friendship. that the children of the visiting plumbers and their wives. They have a right to your property. Especially if you were BORN at the time of living in HER. Because NOW THIS IS THEIR COUNTRY (sorry THEIR living space). And all the sweets earned by you and your loved ones are now THEM - health care. schools. e. gardens. maternity capital and ALL freebies (in the full sense of the word). love Yes. but NOT what kind of DEBT "THIS COUNTRY" (something Very familiar but 30 years earlier) CANNOT be discussed. They (the plumbers) have their own. And generally speaking. you owe them... bully
        In the meantime, we are waiting for "messengers" from the United States selected for ISIS and other "partner" organizations with it from residents of the CIS countries. which will arrange "fireworks" in the Russian Federation and possibly in the CIS and "write out" gratitude to Russians, especially government agencies and servicemen. Message SVR RF in the public domain. USA informs coming SOON!!! bully They say it will be no "worse" than in the 90s (1 and 2 Chechen). only the base of the real "foreign legion" is larger. bully And peaceful janitors. builders and cooks of shawarma and khinkali will SUDDENLY be THESE ... like in a GTA gang that trained on the roads of the Moscow region before being sent to ISIS.
  29. Menshoff_D_V
    Menshoff_D_V 15 February 2023 08: 12
    +10
    Yes, the security forces had a percentage of the Tajik and Uzbeks. All grandmothers and greens - there is a body, you need to look for money
  30. Alex66
    Alex66 15 February 2023 08: 17
    +15
    When you read this, you understand that this is not possible without the approval of the supreme authority, or, alternatively, in the Chelyabinsk region, natives of Tajikistan are in charge, and Uzbekistan is a border region. And it turns out so interesting while the indigenous people at the front began to survive the guests with the support of the local authorities, we are waiting for Peskov to procur.
  31. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 15 February 2023 08: 19
    +2
    We won’t pay our own, for a penny, we’ll hire Asian “slaves” .. And they will come, put things in order .. And who does this? Their own, Russian entrepreneurs and businessmen, in order to receive exclusive benefits for themselves. it turns out that the entrepreneur is not interested, even in minimal vocational training, of his own, he would rather hire from outside and put his own in a humiliating position, I don’t need you, I’ll find a “working cattle” cheaper.
  32. Osmodey
    Osmodey 15 February 2023 08: 21
    -3
    We ourselves inflate these problems. When my generation was growing up, it was good form to gather in a flock and beat the faces of the neighboring area, chocks, rappers, others with unfamiliar faces. No one threw tantrums and did not disturb the police. What has changed then?
    1. Million
      Million 15 February 2023 09: 27
      +5
      There are few places where they gather in packs now. We have become too scattered.
  33. Kusja
    Kusja 15 February 2023 08: 33
    +13
    Are you chronically short of workers? Late in the evening, wander through the cities of N, where there are a lot of hookah bars, in which the whole lack of labor relaxes to a stupor...
  34. Dedok
    Dedok 15 February 2023 08: 50
    +10
    this only speaks of "powerlessness", or rather, of the friendly relations of the authorities with the diasporas
    and they give us a picture - pleasing to the authorities
    there is still a moment here: this is happening during the NWO ... tomorrow our guys will go there, to protect the interests of whom? - the same diasporas (authorities) and therefore the state ... and not vice versa!
    this is the truth of our life
  35. DefenderofTruth
    DefenderofTruth 15 February 2023 08: 57
    +10
    This is a direct consequence of the venality of all the authorities of the Russian Federation - from the first persons to the village head
  36. Prometey
    Prometey 15 February 2023 09: 02
    +13
    By the nature of my activity, I will say this - I have to work with the children of migrants from those republics. In general, the children are quite well-mannered and friendly. Well, at least in our organization, they have not yet encountered aggression from their side.
    Here is a case of adult indifference. Surely both at school and parents had information about the illegal actions of those same migrants, but they believed that it would pass by itself. It did not pass.
    In general, the guys showed that Russian Vanya was far from being patient. And in fact, with them, now it is necessary to carry out the correct educational work without snot, that it is not good to fight, but that every person and owner in his house can and must protect himself and his loved ones. But mochilovo is an extreme option when others do not roll.
    But since I have repeatedly written that the main enemy of Russian citizens, or rather Russian people, are representatives of law enforcement agencies and prosecutors - half of which need to be swept with a filthy broom, nothing good shines for the guys. So geeks from the prosecutor's office will never stand up for Russian citizens.
  37. Igor Tarakanov
    Igor Tarakanov 15 February 2023 09: 12
    +7
    The authorities teach Russian children by such methods how to love the country. Develop patriotism.
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  39. teron
    teron 15 February 2023 09: 21
    +17
    The national diasporas in Russia, for the most part, are a front for ethnic organized crime groups. Almost all guest workers and migrants, whether they like it or not, work for the mafia. Local authorities either share with these organized crime groups or are simply afraid to get involved with them. The indigenous Russian population, for the most part, is not a member of gangs and cannot resist the mafia.
    But.
    This cannot continue indefinitely, and in the end it can lead to pogroms of national communities in various cities of Russia.
    Conclusion: the law is the same for everyone, and the authorities need to launch a full-scale offensive against organized crime throughout the country.
  40. Million
    Million 15 February 2023 09: 26
    +10
    Too indulgent to visitors

    They probably indulged for a good money. I don’t believe in altruism.
    interethnic conflicts must be resolved by force

    I think that this is only the beginning, if the authorities do not change their attitude towards the problem of migrants.
  41. kostik1301
    kostik1301 15 February 2023 09: 44
    +7
    For our Power, in particular its oligarchic vertical, the main thing is not the SVO, not the national question, and even more so the concept of the Motherland - but the inviolability of private property and the smell of very big money and they are not interested in anything else ......
  42. Letnab
    Letnab 15 February 2023 09: 50
    +4
    But after all, our GDP itself said, if necessary, to beat first !!!! Our guys just responded to the rudeness of visitors ...
  43. Volunteer Marek
    Volunteer Marek 15 February 2023 09: 59
    +5
    The Asians are methodically squeezing us out. First, non-prestigious places, now more "bread". Of course, business will give preference to "gastar" - less worries (taxes, insurance and a thousand other reasons). Why? Yes, because the main thing for business is profit. Here and now. What will happen in 10 years, he does not care. Power is rotten. Hopelessness is complete.
  44. Navy7981
    Navy7981 15 February 2023 10: 03
    +7
    I would like to believe that this issue will be resolved. And everything is simple, it is necessary to stop the vicious practice of bringing families here, and even more so the distribution of citizenship. The granting of any rights, except the right to work if it is so necessary. He worked for three months, received a salary and went home. Solving demographics by inviting people here with a completely different mentality is a mistake. And hidden orders from the police are hard to understand, as if law enforcement agencies are fighting against their own. And it seems it's time to realize and understand that these people are latent militants, the fifth column, in the hands of our fucking oppositionists and under the control of Western intelligence services. It's on the surface. And there shouldn't be diasporas. Even a hint of officialdom is expulsion. And correctly they understand only force. In this case, the power of the state.
  45. Gankutsu_
    Gankutsu_ 15 February 2023 10: 06
    +12
    And this Russian world, Russia wants to impose on Ukraine? No wonder there is such fierce resistance.
    While the mobilized are dying, children are beaten, raped and killed by visitors.
    Another proof that this whole war was named for the purpose of recycling the Russians as a nation.
    For about 12 years he was a member of fairly right-wing organizations, but the press from the authorities was such that even more or less adequate nat. groups, DPNI and NDP were closed and imprisoned at 282. That is why there is no government for visitors.
    1. Prometey
      Prometey 15 February 2023 12: 35
      +7
      Didn't you think that someday these mobilized people would come home and dictate their terms to law enforcement officers? In the next 2-3 years, I don’t envy either the policemen or the National Guard. People with combat experience will wipe their feet about them. And my forecast is that in a year or two the situation in the country will begin to change dramatically, and society will dictate its terms to the state.
  46. Ivan1960
    Ivan1960 15 February 2023 10: 12
    +5
    "Feihua" and "Bluetooth" are already safely hidden in their historical homeland ... Well, nothing, the poor, they will suffer a little there, and back in half a year ...
    Ha! Ha! Ha! So you need it! That's what we all need!!! Keep brainwashing with zombies for longer and participating and supporting flash mobs of the sun-faced...
    And, yes, in a while we will be sealed with electronic money in a bank that is not Russian ...
  47. Down
    Down 15 February 2023 10: 14
    +4
    On this site a few years ago there was an article, the approximate title is "notes of a non-Russian person", the main idea is that the most unprotected in Russia are Russians. There is such a science as ethnography, you can put as many minuses as you like)), but ethnic groups. nations, nationalities are always different, they are different in everything.
    It is impossible to re-educate, people do not change. This is the question of why non-Russians behave this way, they are different. alien. Why is there no order and prejudice flourishes? Who should enforce the law, the police. But the police have a different task, they serve the ruling class, they depend on them. The class division of society has not been canceled. In this case. something threatens bureaucrats. oligarchs and others? No. Who is the weak link, the Russians, then they are a priori to blame. The article itself is nonsense. the author himself knows who is to blame and what to do, but he is afraid to call a spade a spade, of course. discredit. total period. Then why shake the air? Innuendo ....
  48. Down
    Down 15 February 2023 10: 15
    +5
    Quote: Letnab
    But after all, our GDP itself said, if necessary, to beat first !!!! Our guys just responded to the rudeness of visitors ...

    Saying and promising does not mean getting married))
  49. Bioorganism
    Bioorganism 15 February 2023 10: 15
    +8
    There is no other way to solve all the problems with migrants than to introduce a visa regime with the Central Asian countries. Everything else has been tried and it doesn't work. Just a visa regime and forget like a bad dream.
    The right people will come on a visa, and only those who are needed.
    All citizenships issued to non-ethnic Russians will be revoked.
  50. Down
    Down 15 February 2023 10: 17
    +4
    Quote: Million

    I think that this is only the beginning, if the authorities do not change their attitude towards the problem of migrants.

    And what will you do, because they won't change.