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Assault units of PMC "Wagner" squeezed the enemy out of Krasnaya Gora and are advancing in Paraskovievka

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Assault units of PMC "Wagner" squeezed the enemy out of Krasnaya Gora and are advancing in Paraskovievka

Assault detachments of PMC "Wagner" took the settlement of Krasnaya Gora, for which there have been fierce battles in recent days. The village is located near Artemovsk (Bakhmut). This was stated by the founder of the military company Yevgeny Prigozhin.


The fact that the "musicians" squeezed out Ukrainian units from positions in the Krasnaya Gora area and from the village itself was reported the day before. Also, the attack aircraft of the "Wagnerites" are advancing in Paraskovievka, knocking out the enemy. Fierce battles to the north of Artemovsk have been going on for a long time, we were not able to take these two oporniks until coverage was made from the side of the highway to Slavyansk. The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine got into the fire bag, having only one exit towards the city. It was reported that the defense of Artemovsk was completely disorganized.

As of this morning, the "musicians" have taken Krasnaya Gora, this was confirmed by Prigozhin, stating that apart from the fighters of the Wagner PMC, no one participated in the assault. According to him, it is not necessary to attribute victories to the "Wagnerites" where they do not exist, but where they exist, these victories should not be taken away. He stressed that after the mass hype that Soledar was taken by someone else besides Wagner, the fighters were very unpleasant.


Today, the settlement of Krasnaya Gora was taken by assault detachments of the PMC "Wagner" (...) I want to emphasize that there is no one on Bakhmut. There are no special units that cover, pick up and intercept something. Within a radius of 50 km, plus or minus, there are only Wagner PMC fighters, who will take Bakhmut. Where they are not, they are not there - we are not in the north or in the south. And when they say that the fighters of PMC "Wagner" took Ugledar - it's not true

- declared Prigogine.

Also, units of "musicians" are developing an offensive in the area of ​​​​Krasny and Stupochek, and in Artemovsk itself.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 12 February 2023 11: 28
    +9
    As of this morning, the "musicians" have taken Krasnaya Gora, this was confirmed by Prigozhin, stating that apart from the fighters of the Wagner PMC, no one participated in the assault. According to him, it is not necessary to attribute victories to the "Wagnerites" where they do not exist, but where they exist, these victories should not be taken away. He stressed that after the mass hype that Soledar was taken by someone else besides Wagner, the fighters were very unpleasant.
    . Unpleasant situation!!!
    Must "work" all together, complementing each other!!!
    They do one thing...
    1. Sergio_7
      Sergio_7 12 February 2023 11: 38
      +9
      I agree with you! Why is only Wagner working, where is the RF Armed Forces?!
      1. Orange Bigg
        Orange Bigg 12 February 2023 11: 40
        +13
        Quote: Sergio_7
        I agree with you! Why is only Wagner working, where is the RF Armed Forces?!


        RF Armed Forces in all other directions of the front, including Krasnolimansky.

        At night, the Russian Aerospace Forces attacked Zmeiny and the Kharkov region: Su-24Ms attacked Zmeiny Island with four air bombs, Su-35s hit Volchansk. This was reported to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as local authorities.
        They also fired 3 anti-ship missiles of the Onyx type from Crimea, which hit the coastal zone in the Odessa region. Near the border with Transnistria and Moldova, the Russian army launched missiles at critical infrastructure.
        There were no dead or wounded.

        https://t.me/RVvoenkor

        We received information that yesterday, during our massive missile strike, the enemy tried to attack military facilities near Dzhankoy using 12 UAVs.
        Drones arrived from the Odessa-Nikolaev direction. EW forces suppressed the UAV control channels, after which they hit in different places, not reaching the targets. All of them were found. There is no data yet on the identification of the type and data model.

        https://t.me/dva_majors

        Armed Forces of Ukraine require ransom from relatives of prisoners of war. Stories-evidence that Russia is fighting not with the regular army, but with terrorists
        Two weeks ago, the commander of a tank company, Hero of Russia Ruslan Kurbanov, said that two captured servicemen of the 40th brigade of the Pacific Fleet of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were demanding a ransom of 25 thousand dollars.
        Today, the telegram channel "Two Majors" said that the Nazis of the 10th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are threatening Russian prisoners of war with reprisals, demanding a ransom of 5 thousand dollars from their relatives.
        Residents of the Kharkov region who left for Russia, whose acquaintances remained to work in Kharkov hospitals, report that the Armed Forces of Ukraine require a ransom of 150 thousand rubles for wounded prisoners of war from the LPR and DPR.

        https://t.me/ukrainian_guide


        https://vizitnlo.ru/vechernie-novosti-s-fronta-est-shans-kollapsa-oborony-vsu-v-baxmute/
        1. Prjanik
          Prjanik 12 February 2023 12: 19
          +10
          Yes, in Krasnolimansky, dill is also well fried, including TOS
          1. Sarboz
            Sarboz 12 February 2023 16: 08
            +1
            Quote: rocket757
            Unpleasant situation!!!
            Must "work" all together, complementing each other!!!
            They do one thing...

            The unpleasant situation is that various "military correspondents" (read simply bloggers) spread unverified information, and then such grievances arise from scratch. All this suggests that CENSORSHIP is needed in the coverage of hostilities.
        2. dmi.pris1
          dmi.pris1 12 February 2023 12: 20
          +4
          Today there was already a video where Prigozhin said where, who and when. Everything seems to be clear.
          1. Egeny
            Egeny 12 February 2023 13: 17
            +2
            Within a radius of 50 km, plus or minus, there are only fighters of PMC "Wagner"

            Artyomovsk (center) - Chasov Yar in a straight line 13 km
            Artyomovsk - Konstantinovka 23 km
            Artyomovsk - Liman 45 km
            Artyomovsk - Slavyansk 41 km
            Artyomovsk - Kramatorsk 35 km
            We haven't taken Bakhmut yet, but I think it won't be long.
        3. Kerensky
          Kerensky 12 February 2023 12: 26
          -2
          They also fired 3 anti-ship missiles of the Onyx type from Crimea, which hit the coastal zone in the Odessa region.

          How?!!! Military correspondents! Please explain how you can to let out a rocket, without a "flight mission"? .... well, or write about bunnies and chanterelles
        4. aglet
          aglet 12 February 2023 12: 42
          -17
          "Su-24M attacked Zmeiny Island with four air bombs"
          again. For what? nowhere to put the bombs?
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 12 February 2023 13: 27
            +13
            Quote: aglet
            "Su-24M attacked Zmeiny Island with four air bombs"
            again. For what? nowhere to put the bombs?

            you, no one is obliged to report. and if it calms you, then they tried to recreate the 404e tracking station.
        5. Sarboz
          Sarboz 12 February 2023 16: 13
          +4
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          Armed Forces of Ukraine require ransom from relatives of prisoners of war. Stories-evidence that Russia is fighting not with the regular army, but with terrorists

          The same thing that the militants did in Chechnya. Ordinary terrorists, like their leaders: Zelensky, Zaluzhny, who, like spiders in a jar, are ready to devour each other.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 12 February 2023 11: 42
        +13
        Everyone "works", effectively complementing each other where the correct interaction is debugged.
        Who needs the hype, opposing their own, one above the other, is not difficult to guess ...
        Unfortunately, in addition to external troubles, there are also internal, guardians, enemies.
        This has happened before, not only here...
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 12 February 2023 11: 53
          +4
          Quote: rocket757
          Who needs the hype, opposing their own, one above the other, is not difficult to guess ...
          Unfortunately, in addition to external troubles, there are also internal, guardians, enemies.
          This has happened before, not only here...

          Agree! And it’s not even clear whether they “muddle” or “muddle” ...
          Here, there should be no division between our own, but silence of reality and other conjectures are not appropriate, so that later it would not turn out that some “these” are also like France Germany with the rest of the allies ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 12 February 2023 15: 00
            0
            There are and will be flaws, misunderstandings ... the situation is as it is, changes are taking place, but ... through hardships to the stars, something like that.
        2. DMFalke
          DMFalke 12 February 2023 14: 55
          +5
          PMCs need advertising - these are their future orders. Considering that the states will now put pressure on them from their zones of influence, advertising will come in handy. But the fact that, like in a kindergarten, everyone has a blanket in their own direction, this is strange. such things should not leave offices. for the country, the army, albeit with inclusions, should be a single force and one victory for all.
      3. 1976AG
        1976AG 12 February 2023 11: 50
        +9
        Quote: Sergio_7
        I agree with you! Why is only Wagner working, where is the RF Armed Forces?!


        The fact that Wagner units are storming does not mean that they are not provided with fire support of the RF Armed Forces. Let's not be like dill and mold cyborgs out of people.
        1. Aleksandr21
          Aleksandr21 12 February 2023 11: 59
          +6
          Quote: 1976AG
          Let's not be like dill and mold cyborgs out of people.


          I agree, but if people deserve their victory, then you don’t need to take it away from them .... take the story with Soledar, according to the reports of the Ministry of Defense - the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation captured it, but as the hype went on and the people demanded explanations, another picture immediately became clear .. .. if the RF Armed Forces help with fire support, then it would be fair to mark certain units in the summary that help PMCs ... that would be right.

          For now:

          Within a radius of 50 km, plus or minus, there are only Wagner PMC fighters, who will take Bakhmut. - Prigozhin said.
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 12 February 2023 13: 40
            +5
            Quote: Aleksandr21
            Within a radius of 50 km, plus or minus, there are only Wagner PMC fighters who will take Bakhmut

            This means that fire support is also provided by the "musicians".
            1. single-n
              single-n 13 February 2023 11: 00
              0
              This means that fire support is also provided by the "musicians".
              I don’t think that there is at least 50 airfield within a radius of 1 km. Otherwise, he would have been gouged in an instant.
              The question is, where did Prigozhin fly from to bomb the Armed Forces of Ukraine? The comrade chirped. And when the Armed Forces of Ukraine themselves write that they are transferring troops from near Bakhmut to Vugledar, what is this? Not help from the RF Armed Forces?
              Something recently, Prigogine began to bring in from importance. The second Ze becomes.
      4. 4ekist
        4ekist 12 February 2023 12: 08
        +11
        The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine got into the fire bag, having only one exit towards the city.

        Satanists should be left with one way out - to the underworld. negative
        Well done Wagnerians!
      5. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 12 February 2023 12: 33
        +12
        Quote: Sergio_7
        I agree with you! Why is only Wagner working, where is the RF Armed Forces?!
        Everyone works in their own area of ​​responsibility, especially since Wagner is given both art and aviation and armored vehicles. Everything else is carried out and coordinated within the framework of interaction.
        Just how often it happens that victory always has many relatives, and defeat has only an orphan.
        And so, well done Wagnerians, their direction is now one of the most difficult and the men do their job professionally.
        1. aglet
          aglet 12 February 2023 12: 49
          -20
          "and the men do their job professionally."
          professionally? squeezing the enemy out of microvillages for months, is this professional? where does the professionalism of criminals come from? I mean Prigogine, and his so-called army
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 12 February 2023 13: 29
            +16
            Quote: aglet
            "and the men do their job professionally."
            professionally? squeezing the enemy out of microvillages for months, is this professional? where does the professionalism of criminals come from? I mean Prigogine, and his so-called army

            and to storm, not to wave with "aglets" ... from the sofa.
          2. 4ekist
            4ekist 12 February 2023 14: 13
            +9
            aglet
            where does the professionalism of criminals come from?

            Dear, you have no authority to determine the degree of professionalism. Sit up straight on the sofa.
          3. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 12 February 2023 19: 16
            +4
            Quote: aglet
            professionally? squeezing the enemy out of microvillages for months, is this professional? where does the professionalism of criminals come from?

            Well, if the "criminals" pissed off the Ukrainian garrison of SOLEDAR with special forces and NATO mercenaries, then they will probably be more professional. Don't find? Today they are a nightmare for those trained to NATO standards in England and other European neighborhoods. If our "criminals" have learned how to fell wood on a plot, then how to cut dill in the field and buildings, they will be able to exemplary.
          4. sadam2
            sadam2 12 February 2023 21: 23
            -3
            I’m wondering something else - why was Cook allowed to announce yesterday that it would take another 2 years to occupy the DPR?

            for efficiency - well, yes, Soledar took five five-story buildings ... but there are no such dashing fees for zones ... convicts got something out ... about what kind of efficiency if we don’t know Prigozhin’s losses?
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 13 February 2023 08: 28
              +2
              curtailed only after the defeat of the APU ......................... you will have to eat less
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    2. Cartalon
      Cartalon 12 February 2023 11: 42
      +7
      Wagner is responsible for this section of the front, so only Wagner is there, it seems logical, hence the result.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 February 2023 11: 59
        +5
        It is logical that the enemy has a tense situation in many directions, and his reserves are not endless!

        This is where the overall positive result comes from.
        Only all together, in cooperation with everyone who is at war.
        Only a common victory, there is no other way!
        1. Cartalon
          Cartalon 12 February 2023 13: 10
          +4
          Do not confuse a nail with a memorial service when a combined hodgepodge is fighting, parts of different subordination will not work out.
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 12 February 2023 13: 48
            +6
            Quote: Cartalon
            when a combined hodgepodge fights, parts of different subordination will not do anything good.

            From that and the successes of the "Wagner" that the corps works, i.e. all its parts under a single control and for a common task.
            Scattered battalions and brigades are capable of solving only local tasks. And under the pressure of a serious and well-managed group, as recent events have shown, they crumble like beads.
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 12 February 2023 14: 57
            +1
            The question is ... are we apart ???
            The situation is leveling off, the command is doing what is necessary ...
            I would like something to happen quickly, immediately, but alas, only immediately ... in general, the process is underway.
    3. Prokop_Pork
      Prokop_Pork 12 February 2023 11: 44
      -5
      Especially when one with a bipod, and seven with a spoon.
    4. Luka Nord
      Luka Nord 12 February 2023 11: 45
      -4
      Quote: rocket757
      Unpleasant situation!!!
      Must "work" all together, complementing each other!!!
      They do one thing...

      I agree, but tactically "Wagner" is more mobile and decisions are made more quickly, without any approvals and other reports there .. The commanders of the detachments of musicians are more free to make operational decisions that are required in a combat situation to be decided instantly and not wait for an order from above what to do next .. Well, their losses are not small ..
      This is a reproach to our military personnel in headquarters and groupings. It seems that there were rearrangements there, but ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 February 2023 11: 55
        +5
        Effective assault infantry, but without serious reinforcement, support from all sides, from YOUR OWN, there is no need to talk about conditional victories !!!
        Only all together!!!
        Local victories will not solve common problems and will not bring us closer to our final victory!
        1. nickname7
          nickname7 12 February 2023 12: 47
          -2
          Only all together

          How do you imagine the work together of parquet generals, who have been checking edging all their lives and combat officers who have passed through hot spots?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 12 February 2023 14: 54
            +2
            Everything that seems to be happening again is what has already happened and more than once ...
            Break through, not the first time!
      2. Al manah
        Al manah 13 February 2023 08: 47
        0
        It looks like there have been changes, but...

        It has long been known that rearranging beds does not change anything.
    5. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 12 February 2023 11: 46
      +7
      rocket757 hi, it's one thing, only now Prigogine does not casually draw attention to this.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 February 2023 11: 53
        +7
        It is not difficult to guess that the fuss is going on at a high, "general" level ...
        This is only in ... in general, envy, the struggle for "goodies", the desire to cover up their miscalculations, incompetence and other things, different things, were, are and will always be !!!
        A person is such a creature, there are quite a few vices in him ... at the grassroots level, this is not so critical, and when a person has climbed / risen to those heights, when his ... miscalculations can lead to disaster, big losses, everything becomes It is tough!!!
        So it was, is and will be, EVERYWHERE!
        1. Murmur 55
          Murmur 55 12 February 2023 11: 59
          +3
          rocket757, I agree with you, on this occasion Zheglov (Vysotsky) said well in the meeting place, a monologue about three heads. hi
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 12 February 2023 12: 08
            +2
            Maybe someone does not know who played the role of Zhiglov in the film, but we are Soviet people, we remember how it happens when EVERYTHING TOGETHER, for the sake of one goal, for the sake of one, common VICTORY !!!
            1. nickname7
              nickname7 12 February 2023 12: 50
              +6
              when ALL TOGETHER, for the sake of one goal, for the sake of one, common VICTORY !!!

              Too many generals. It is necessary that there were divisions, but there are few generals.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 12 February 2023 14: 51
                0
                There are so many generals ... in general, "the giraffe is big, he knows better," and if he is short-sighted, we will write out glasses for him so that he can see what is happening in front of his nose.
        2. ivan1979nkl
          ivan1979nkl 12 February 2023 12: 07
          +5
          fuss goes on at a high ... level

          victory has many parents, failure is always an orphan
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 12 February 2023 14: 52
            +1
            So it is, it has always been so, but Schaub did not happen this time, we ALL TOGETHER, we must try to prevent this.
    6. Sebostyuan
      Sebostyuan 12 February 2023 12: 00
      +9
      That's how they all work together. Wagner fetters a large group. Allows the aircraft to attack in other directions.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 February 2023 12: 12
        +5
        Unfortunately, some fuss around the bush is taking place ... as always!
        But, the fighters in the fields are far from this, they are doing a common thing !!!
        And at the top, and around, among the "sucking" ... a fresh, cleansing wind, it would not hurt there, that's for sure.
    7. Argon
      Argon 12 February 2023 12: 26
      +2
      When I wrote here that it might be unpleasant for those who work to give away victories or divide, I was downvoted in black. You have to go there and experience it for yourself. In principle, it's okay, but when you tear the most of all and then they say this ... it's not pleasant. But in war this valor helps a lot! Many pros went to Wagner and Akhmat. All why? But because they trust the command and make a choice. Once thrown, he knew about it. It turns out not kidok. PMCs for that and PMCs, that there are CERTAIN agreements and they are not promised anything!
    8. Silver99
      Silver99 12 February 2023 12: 32
      +7
      PMC "Wagner" finally cleared Krasnaya Gora from the enemy and today began a general assault on Paraskovievka. Moreover, the enemy grouping in the village is already in operational encirclement (all supply roads are shot through not only by artillery, but also by ATGMs and it is doomed. And this further brings our units to the road through Khromovo, after which the Bakhmut grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will also be doomed. There will simply be no living Armed Forces, the "musicians" keep their word and destroy the enemy in battle until they raise their hands uphill.
      1. aglet
        aglet 12 February 2023 13: 01
        -12
        "PMC" Wagner "finally cleared Krasnaya Gora from the enemy and today began a general assault on Paraskovievka."
        in Krasnaya Gora - there were 600 people, how many enemies could fit there, and with what forces did Prigogine attack them? how long did they attack these megacities
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 12 February 2023 13: 56
          +8
          Quote: aglet
          paraskievka - 20 years ago there were 2800 people, now, for sure, the same 600. a very strong victory for Wagner,

          Before the war, there was one shepherd and three goats on some mountain, such as Saur-mogyla, and if there is a strong unit and competent defense on it, then you can put a regiment and not take it.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 12 February 2023 14: 47
            +1
            Quarreling, dressing up, is that what we all need now ???
            Who wouldn’t stir up something now, it’s a fresh stream and it will blow away all the dregs, along with the mutils, preferably ...
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 12 February 2023 14: 49
        +2
        Real soldiers, warriors, we only need these now, EVERYWHERE !!!
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  2. voice of reason
    voice of reason 12 February 2023 11: 28
    +2
    This is not even the closure of the Artemovsky cauldron, this is immediately the liquidation of the garrison. "run fools" (c) or give up ...
    1. Hagakure
      Hagakure 12 February 2023 11: 32
      +5
      You look at the map, here even to me, a person far from the army, it’s clear - either go out or the environment ...
      1. avatar123
        avatar123 12 February 2023 11: 48
        +1
        strange condition. why specifically give the enemy a chance to get out? so that later it will be harder to storm Slavyansk?
        1. Hagakure
          Hagakure 12 February 2023 16: 53
          0
          And you try to withdraw the unit from the battalion, for example, when you are fired on from 3 sides and far from pistols ... A small part will come out .... If I'm not mistaken, this practice was widely practiced by our affairs in the Second World War ...
        2. Hagakure
          Hagakure 12 February 2023 16: 54
          0
          Dedamia of course ................
      2. Luka Nord
        Luka Nord 12 February 2023 11: 49
        0
        Quote: Hagakure
        You look at the map, here even to me, a person far from the army, it’s clear - either go out or the environment ...

        There, surrounded by them, everything is also clear, but if they start to leave, then they will fall under the machine guns of the Natsik detachments! They will shoot them and there this has long been in the order of things .. And their relatives are also held hostage
        It is not for nothing that infa often slips with the request of relatives not to exchange Ukrainian military ..
        1. aglet
          aglet 12 February 2023 13: 04
          -11
          "They will fall under the machine guns of the Natsik detachments! They will shoot them and there this has long been in the order of things .. And their relatives are held hostage"
          you listened to Skabeev. No wonder they took it off TV. the authorities realized that the harm from it is more than good
      3. Orange Bigg
        Orange Bigg 12 February 2023 12: 08
        +3
        Quote: Hagakure
        You look at the map, here even to me, a person far from the army, it’s clear - either go out or the environment ...


        Current map of Bakhmut.
        1. aglet
          aglet 12 February 2023 13: 05
          -14
          "Actual map of Bakhmut"
          this card hasn't changed, it's been six months now
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    2. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 12 February 2023 11: 47
      +3
      voice of reason hi, give up, after the last video from the other side.
      1. Orange Bigg
        Orange Bigg 12 February 2023 12: 11
        +3
        They do not know what Reason is from the word at all.
  3. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 12 February 2023 11: 38
    +8
    Very good news, good luck to the soldiers of Russia.
  4. Prokop_Pork
    Prokop_Pork 12 February 2023 11: 40
    +5
    For several days it has already been clear that the people of Urinsk cannot remain in Paraskoveevka. In Krasnaya Gora it was even more so. If they are not completely idiots, then tomorrow they will be dumped from Paraskoveevka.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 12 February 2023 11: 44
      +4
      Quote: Prokop_Svinin
      If they are not completely idiots, then tomorrow they will be dumped from Paraskoveevka.

      The main thing is that "ours" are released. But there is hope that the Nazis will run first.
      1. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 12 February 2023 11: 56
        +1
        Egoza hi, there were rumors (believe it or not) that Zaluzhny quietly brought out the most combat-ready, or rather the backbone, and the rest were either mobilized and ideological "kamikaze".
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 12 February 2023 12: 14
          +7
          ideological "kamikaze".
          If you dig deeper, then among the so-called. "ideological" willing to die for this idea of ​​the unit. They are "specialists" in punitive actions, instilling fear in the civilian population and looting. And of course, participation in mass events with torchlight processions, chanting "Sala ...", etc.
    2. aglet
      aglet 12 February 2023 13: 08
      -14
      "For several days it has already been clear that the people of Urinsk cannot stay in Paraskoveevka"
      that's right! that means that in a month or two the Wagner will squeeze the xoxels out of the paraskeevka! and we will shout hurray!
      1. Nickelium
        Nickelium 12 February 2023 13: 59
        +8
        Schumer, why are you so worried? There the Wagnerians prepare an excellent julienne.
      2. Prokop_Pork
        Prokop_Pork 12 February 2023 17: 00
        +1
        We do not know what is happening there, what tasks are being set. In the last sad video that was here from the other side, it is said that after killing all the Urins in the opornik, the Wagnerites returned to their positions.
        1. Nickelium
          Nickelium 12 February 2023 20: 34
          -3
          We know that Wagner is fulfilling his task, unlike Kherasimov's heniya near Ugledar.
  5. Quinto
    Quinto 12 February 2023 11: 56
    +11
    The channels close to Wagner reported that in Krasnaya Gora "the entire garrison died" and something tells me - this is a fiery hello to those ghouls who recently shot the captured Wagner fighters
    1. ivan1979nkl
      ivan1979nkl 12 February 2023 12: 15
      +5
      the whole garrison died

      The Nazis deliberately shoot prisoners and post videos - they increase the degree of intransigence
  6. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 12 February 2023 11: 59
    +2
    The Ministry of Defense framed Wagner more than once (suffice it to recall Syria and the attack by the Americans where our Defense Ministry did not cover up its own from the word at all) ... so they work separately from the RF Armed Forces, focusing mainly on the authorities of the DPR / LPR directly ... coordinating with the Defense Ministry only the main big goals
    unpleasant and inadequate position of the General Staff
    1. Plate
      Plate 12 February 2023 13: 05
      -10
      From the side of the General Staff, everything is just clear. Wagner is somebody's political thing. Maybe the generals would like to coordinate normally with her, but then there is a risk of later being charged with working with an illegal organization. Seriously, in my opinion, from the point of view of Russian legislation, no Wagner should exist. So now he is, and what will happen later, and with those involved, no one knows. Now, if such organizations were legalized, there would be much more clarity.
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 12 February 2023 14: 05
        +5
        Quote: Plate
        in my opinion, from the point of view of Russian legislation, no Wagner should exist.

        They are now officially "volunteers".
    2. aglet
      aglet 12 February 2023 13: 15
      -14
      ". so they work separately from the RF Armed Forces"
      aren't they too fucking (not a vegetable), they allow themselves? it seems that Prigozhin contains them at his own expense. But war is a very expensive thing. if Wagner is not self-sustaining, then Prigozhin should have gone bankrupt long ago, apart from the fact that PMCs and mercenaries are prohibited in Russia, and he, like a godfather of organized crime groups, should have been on the bunk for a long time
      1. Plate
        Plate 12 February 2023 13: 45
        -11
        And the most interesting thing about this is that he does not even hide that he is a godfather of an organized criminal group and actively, openly promotes it. And everyone knows that this is a de jure organized crime group. Best case scenario. But everyone is fine with it. But they are also in no hurry to legalize Wagner.
        Probably, Prigozhin also feels that after the SVO he can be sent to those same bunk beds. Hence the PR style "Only Wagner fights in Soledar". I only hope that ordinary Wagner fighters will not suffer from these showdowns in the future and that they will receive the allowances, payments due to them and enjoy other privileges of BD veterans on an equal basis with fighters of the official RF Armed Forces.
  7. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 12 February 2023 12: 03
    +6
    It seems clear that Wagner is making the most territorial gains on the battlefield. Great news.
  8. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 12 February 2023 12: 19
    0
    The leadership of PMC Wagner, I think, has no illusions about the top leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense. Everyone remembers very well how cowardly bureaucrats from the Moscow Region put musicians under attack in Syria. I am sure that PMCs are well aware that interaction with the Defense Ministry is necessary, and sometimes very prompt. The PMC is a mobile organization, I think, without unnecessary bureaucratic mechanisms, and if problems arise with this, then rather from the bureaucrats from the Ministry of Defense.
  9. ism_ek
    ism_ek 12 February 2023 12: 24
    0
    Eastern VO must learn from Wagner. The frontal assault on Ugledar is a joke. The priorities are wrong. It’s a no brainer, after all, that the priority is to cover the city, cutting off supplies from the routes. Why are the elite formations of paratroopers storming Ugledar head-on, while poorly trained units are enveloping the city?
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 12 February 2023 12: 31
      +2
      The Wagnerites are storming in the same way in the forehead.
      1. ivan1979nkl
        ivan1979nkl 12 February 2023 12: 46
        +2
        The Wagnerites are also storming in the forehead

        Wagnerites, apparently, know how to storm in the forehead
      2. ism_ek
        ism_ek 12 February 2023 13: 19
        +4
        Quote: Kronos
        The Wagnerites are storming in the same way in the forehead.

        Did you read the author's text well?
        Fierce battles to the north of Artemovsk have been going on for a long time, we were not able to take these two oporniks until coverage was made from the side of the highway to Slavyansk. The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine fell into the fire bag,.....
    2. Prjanik
      Prjanik 12 February 2023 13: 38
      +5
      Well, the plan there was probably no worse than that of the Musicians: the marines occupy the dachas to the east and storm Ugledar, and the motorized riflemen simultaneously go around to the west and cut off the supply lines before reinforcements arrive. But here is its implementation .. It turns out that it is necessary to carry out engineering training in advance and use trawls before riding through minefields, who would have thought .. There are no complaints about the Marines, they did everything right away. And the secret of the Wagner's success is in competent, experienced officers and iron discipline
      1. ism_ek
        ism_ek 12 February 2023 14: 06
        +3
        Quote: Prjanik
        Well, the plan there, probably, was no worse than that of the Musicians: the marines occupy the dachas to the east and storm Ugledar, and the motorized riflemen simultaneously bypass to the west and cut off the supply lines

        Yes, it's a shitty plan. Marines are sent to storm summer cottages, and motorized riflemen are sent to storm an industrial facility, the Yuzhnodonbasskaya 1 mine. There are high-rise buildings, a dominant height from which everything is visible, and fortified dungeons.
        1. Prjanik
          Prjanik 12 February 2023 14: 37
          +3
          It seems to me that they should have gone further towards Bogoyavlenka. As a result, a week later, when supplies and reinforcements arrived at the dill, and the Marines began to be squeezed out of the dachas, and the mines were already remotely thrown over the top, a detour from the west was born. There, in a good way, the trawl had to be hooked onto each tank
        2. Prjanik
          Prjanik 12 February 2023 15: 25
          +3
          The main problem with the colossus of the Ministry of Defense is the insufficiently coordinated interaction of various types of troops, there is no experience of large-scale operations, while on their own, paratroopers, marines, and former militias can operate effectively, while it is easier to allocate their own area of ​​work to each. And as experienced commanders already do, they get acquainted with officers of other branches of the military on the site, intelligence, art support, drone pilots, etc., in order to interact directly at their grassroots level, and not through 30 higher ones. Dillers have the same problem, and foreign mercenaries and NATO members on their equipment are added to it
  10. Expert2023
    Expert2023 12 February 2023 12: 41
    -4
    Quote: Sergio_7
    I agree with you! Why is only Wagner working, where is the RF Armed Forces?!


    What does it mean where the RF Armed Forces? They work together, and ,, Wagner ,, this is the structure of the Ministry of Defense, it's time to understand good
  11. syabroleonid
    syabroleonid 12 February 2023 12: 43
    -2
    Wagner fights effectively. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation can only effectively line up armored columns in a chain near Ugledar and Belogorovka.
  12. Mikhail Ivanov
    Mikhail Ivanov 12 February 2023 12: 47
    +9
    This is a big plus! Perhaps today there are four main tasks of the tactical plan:
    1) take Carbon
    2) take completely Marinka
    3) take Artemovsk (preferably with the siege of Chasov Yar)
    4) take Seversk
    By completing these offensive operations, we will cut the Donetsk front into chunks that will be much easier to finish off. The enemy will lose his main trump card, the ability to quickly transfer troops. It should be noted here that there are two more important goals Pavlograd and Pokrovsk. These are large railway junctions that need to be razed to the ground at this stage. Pavlograd was recently bombed with rockets, but the result has not been officially announced.
    As for the question of who took it and who didn't... Well, those who lie, and we all understand who they are talking about, they must now give the first result. So far they have no result... He will decide in any case.
    And the musicians have earned the respect of the people. They believe in them, believe in them and this is the most important thing. As for Prigozhin, he is responsible for his words. Therefore, they also believe him, and this is the main thing. Garbage will be blown away by the wind of history, the heroes will remain in the memory of people!
  13. Expert2023
    Expert2023 12 February 2023 12: 51
    0
    Quote from syabroleonid
    Wagner fights effectively. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation can only effectively line up armored columns in a chain near Ugledar and Belogorovka.


    ,, Wagner ,, and MO is a single structure.
    Like little children, by God lol
    1. Sandor Clegane
      Sandor Clegane 12 February 2023 13: 12
      0
      Quote: Expert2023
      ,, Wagner ,, and MO is a single structure.

      if so ((....... you are wrong
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  15. AlexWar
    AlexWar 12 February 2023 13: 36
    +1
    The attack on Bukhmut is apparently planned later, when the Ukrainians run out of ammunition
  16. Expert2023
    Expert2023 12 February 2023 13: 41
    -5
    Quote: Sandor Clegane
    Quote: Expert2023
    ,, Wagner ,, and MO is a single structure.

    if so ((....... you are wrong


    I already told you too much stop
    1. Sandor Clegane
      Sandor Clegane 12 February 2023 15: 44
      +3
      Quote: Expert2023
      I already told you too much

      you said too much nonsense!!!
      Are you saying that active ZKs are fighting in the RF Armed Forces ?? on articles even heavy?? you can't answer...
  17. Tagan
    Tagan 12 February 2023 14: 34
    +3
    Quote: aglet
    ". so they work separately from the RF Armed Forces"
    aren't they too fucking (not a vegetable), they allow themselves? it seems that Prigozhin contains them at his own expense. But war is a very expensive thing. if Wagner is not self-sustaining, then Prigozhin should have gone bankrupt long ago, apart from the fact that PMCs and mercenaries are prohibited in Russia, and he, like a godfather of organized crime groups, should have been on the bunk for a long time

    There should be an audience like you on the bunk. With Xixian in an embrace.
  18. Expert2023
    Expert2023 12 February 2023 15: 04
    +1
    Quote: aglet
    ". so they work separately from the RF Armed Forces"
    aren't they too fucking (not a vegetable), they allow themselves? it seems that Prigozhin contains them at his own expense. But war is a very expensive thing. if Wagner is not self-sustaining, then Prigozhin should have gone bankrupt long ago, apart from the fact that PMCs and mercenaries are prohibited in Russia, and he, like a godfather of organized crime groups, should have been on the bunk for a long time


    ,, Shoot as an accomplice of the Nazis and an alarmist ,, (I.V. Stalin)
  19. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 12 February 2023 15: 24
    -2
    I really don’t understand - why don’t regular troops help musicians? How tired of this "boshen kremlin" fuss! We need everything for the front, everything for victory! Top chapters completely eliminated from the NWO?
  20. 23424636
    23424636 12 February 2023 16: 00
    -4
    You can’t win a war with penal battalions. Military correspondents glorify Wagner and create a precedent that the Russian army is a card deballet and Wagner is a prima ballerina. It is clear that Prigozhin has a special formula for relations with the authorities in the Kremlin, and the sources of funding for his troops are clearly not the same as in the Russian army. will allow shells from North Korea and artillery from warehouses that will open only to him or other types of weapons that are just entering the army. maybe for cash or other moments from manufacturers. No wonder Prigozhin hisses at Rogozin, who knows many of his tricks with the supply of weapons bypassing general schemes. And most importantly, Prigozhin is a Jew. He will be forgiven by everything except a direct attack on those in power. hurts the common cause. Our fighters proved their greatness and made their conquests on our land with blood. Donbass and those regions that they left without a fight or left for no apparent reason. Examples of combat coordination should be worked out and implemented. the benefit of the common cause.
  21. Alexander Grigoryev_2
    Alexander Grigoryev_2 12 February 2023 16: 19
    -2
    Quote: aglet
    "and the men do their job professionally."
    professionally? squeezing the enemy out of microvillages for months, is this professional? where does the professionalism of criminals come from? I mean Prigogine, and his so-called army

    And their losses are much greater than army units.
  22. flicker
    flicker 12 February 2023 21: 52
    +1
    As of this morning, the "musicians" have taken Krasnaya Gora, this was confirmed by Prigozhin, stating that apart from the fighters of the Wagner PMC, no one participated in the assault. According to him, it is not necessary to attribute victories to the "Wagnerites" where they do not exist, but where they exist, these victories should not be taken away. He stressed that after the mass hype that Soledar was taken by someone else besides Wagner, the fighters were very unpleasant.

    "Today, the settlement of Krasnaya Gora was taken by PMC Wagner assault detachments (...) I want to emphasize that there is no one on Bakhmut. There are no special units that cover, pick up and intercept something. Within a radius of 50 km, give or take , there are only Wagner PMC fighters who will take Bakhmut. Where they are not, they are not there - we are neither in the north nor in the south. And when they say that Wagner PMC fighters took Ugledar "- this is not So

    - declared Prigogine.

    ---
    There was such an attacker in CSKA, Vagner Love, a very good striker.
    I don’t remember exactly who CSKA played against, but the events unfolded as follows: the game was generally equal, Akinfeev carried all the balls, CSKA’s defense spread in tackles, CSKA midfielders plowed the entire field, and only one player Wagner could be said to be jogging. I remember watching and thinking why Gazzaev would not replace him? It was somewhere in the 80th minute of the match, the score was 0-0, and then suddenly Wagner got the ball, beat three defenders and scored the winning goal. Cool goal, Wagner's merit was undeniable.
    I just think if Akinfeev didn’t drag the balls, and the rest of the field players didn’t plow the field, could Wagner’s goal be victorious for CSKA?
    ---
    In other words, if now the Russian Armed Forces suddenly stop exerting pressure along the entire front (or even worse, they bring down the front along the flanks of Wagner PMCs), then I strongly doubt that Wagner (in this situation) will not be surrounded.

    PMC Wagner is fighting very well, but Wagner's success is largely a consequence of the efforts of the Russian Armed Forces in other sectors of the front.
    1. Petr_Koldunov
      Petr_Koldunov 12 February 2023 22: 09
      +1
      I got confused in your Wagners ... :))) But in any case, you are right without a doubt - for any of the Wagners, support from the army is very important - whether it be the whole army or just its sports club drinks
  23. flicker
    flicker 13 February 2023 10: 40
    0
    This was stated by the founder of the military company Yevgeny Prigozhin.
    Not the "founder", but the manager who was appointed. The founder is the owner (at least at the initial stage), but Prigogine was nevertheless appointed.
    This is from an article quite complimentary to Prigogine:
    In 1914, Russia needed a detachment of professionals to provide military assistance to the Donbass. Prigozhin quickly realized that it was impossible to let things take their course: the money would be stolen, and the guys would be sent under the bullets naked and barefoot. We needed an investor who would not rob, would not engage in fraud, and would be able to consolidate all the participants. And such an investor was a businessman with a harmless reputation as a restaurateur and cook Putin.

    Once again, the text is complimentary primarily for Prigogine, and therefore slightly distorted.
    And this is how it should look like, if you remove these distortions:
    "In 1914, Russia needed a detachment of professionals for military assistance to the Donbass.
    Investor I quickly realized that it was impossible to let things go by themselves: the money would be stolen, and the guys would be sent under the bullets naked and barefoot. needed managerwho will not rob, will not engage in fraud, will be able to consolidate all participants. And so manager became a businessman - a restaurateur (he is for some reason (?) "Putin's personal chef" - although Putin himself denies this), trusted by the INVESTOR."
    Question: Who is this INVESTOR?
    And most importantly, what does he want?
    After all, his protégé (aka "Putin's cook") during the hostilities began to oppose the PMCs controlled by him to the Russian Armed Forces.