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British press: London is negotiating with Kyiv on the opening of a joint production of weapons in Ukraine

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British press: London is negotiating with Kyiv on the opening of a joint production of weapons in Ukraine

Great Britain intends not only to supply its weapons to Kyiv, but also to produce them on Ukrainian territory. British defense companies want to conquer weapons the Ukrainian market, ousting the Germans and the French from there. This is reported by the newspaper Telegraph.


It's no secret that in the conflict in Ukraine, the West has several goals other than the destruction of Russia. One of them is to make money on the supply of weapons to the Ukrainian army, Zelensky is now ready to sign any documents, purchase any weapons, if only this would help him stay in power. Of course, the main share of weapons to Ukraine is supplied by American companies, but the share of European companies also remains.

Against this background, the British wanted to organize the production of their weapons directly on the territory of Ukraine, representatives of defense companies have already visited Kyiv and held talks with their Ukrainian counterparts representing the military-industrial complex of Ukraine. The British publication does not provide details of these negotiations, it only notes that it was still possible to reach some agreements regarding the creation of joint ventures.

British armaments and military vehicles may be produced in Ukraine in accordance with plans that will mean deepening the country's ties with NATO (...) any agreement will be seen as a significant strengthening of Britain's ties with Ukraine

- writes the edition.

The British are in a hurry, because the Germans and the French are competitors, they are also working on issues of in-depth cooperation with Kyiv. One unnamed British official told the Telegraph that Britain should be at the front of the line. Ukraine has previously produced some weapons under license, mostly small arms, but the main production facility is now being hit by Russian strikes. At the same time, in Kyiv with two hands for the British proposal, Ukraine would prefer to produce artillery, ammunition and Tanksthan buying it all.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 12 February 2023 06: 31
    +11
    The British are in a hurry, because the Germans and the French are competitors, they are also working on issues of in-depth cooperation with Kyiv.
    do they really think the conflict will last for decades? Or is it possible to set up workshops, produce products, and a rocket will not reach there? bully
    1. Silver99
      Silver99 12 February 2023 06: 49
      +6
      And how will the production of modern weapons function in an already destroyed supply chain in a war, this is not a slingshot to do? How will components be delivered, where will electricity and heat come from at factories with regular arrivals of cruise missiles, and finally, in conditions of constant mobilization, who will stand at the machines? Where will they get qualified workers for CNC machines, children will no longer help to replace their fathers who have gone to the front, a different level of production technology.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 12 February 2023 06: 53
        +2
        London is negotiating with Kiev on the opening of a joint production of weapons in Ukraine
        okay ... it will be where to send "mopeds".
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 12 February 2023 09: 33
          +3
          The British are in a hurry because the Germans and the French are competitors

          That's interesting.
          This, it turns out, is not an initiative of individuals, but a well-thought-out plan, and a profitable one at that.
          It is clear that the factories will immediately be bombed.
          There is no place in Ukraine where a rocket cannot reach.
          Yes, there is not even a place where "Geranium" will not reach.
          So one of the two - either they have a speedy peace planned, or it's just money laundering - they will put decommissioned equipment under bombing, in small numbers, and according to the documents they will carry it out as new, to a dozen factories.
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 12 February 2023 11: 58
            +1
            they have a speedy peace planned
            Apparently, the plans are "Coreization of Ukraine". They plan to take the west and the center for themselves, where they will try to create some kind of South Korean "economic miracle".
            1. old
              old 12 February 2023 12: 10
              +2
              will try to create some kind of South Korean "economic miracle".

              If the West has plans for a war to the last Ukrainian, then whose hands are planning to create a miracle?
      2. svp67
        svp67 12 February 2023 07: 21
        +2
        Quote from Silver99
        How will components be delivered, where will electricity and heat come from at factories with regular arrivals of cruise missiles, and finally, in conditions of constant mobilization, who will stand at the machines?

        For the production of a "long English combat bow", a lot is not needed.

        The bows were mainly made from a single piece of yew, which made them almost as good as composite bows. Other types of wood were also used (elm, ash, hazel, oak), but such bows were much less effective than yew ones.
        I don’t know how much yew is in Ukraine, but the rest of the tree species are in abundance
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 12 February 2023 08: 48
          +6
          More worrying is not a possible co-production... but that
          representatives of defense companies have already visited Kyiv
          . They walk around Kyiv like at home.
      3. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 12 February 2023 09: 46
        -5
        Quote from Silver99
        And how will the production of modern weapons function in an already destroyed supply chain in a war, this is not a slingshot to do? How will components be delivered, where will electricity and heat come from at factories with regular arrivals of cruise missiles, and finally, in conditions of constant mobilization, who will stand at the machines? Where will they get qualified workers for CNC machines, children will no longer help to replace their fathers who have gone to the front, a different level of production technology.

        Firstly, when deploying production in Western Ukraine, electricity can be connected almost directly to the EU networks. Secondly, the production of ammunition can be established by separate workshops. Well, repairs are also quite possible to establish.
        1. Clear
          Clear 12 February 2023 10: 50
          +6
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          electricity can

          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          in the West of Ukraine ... it is quite possible

          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          also quite possible

          Of course, it is possible if construction teams with Soviet energy components go from Russia to western Ukraine instead of "Caliber" and "Geraniums", namely the energy system in Ukraine of Soviet production.
          1. ycuce234-san
            ycuce234-san 12 February 2023 22: 51
            0
            Quote: Clear
            Soviet-made energy system in Ukraine


            National standard industrial voltage and frequency ratings have long been nearly the same throughout Eurasia. And since any mass power equipment is initially modular, then it will work more or less everywhere and brought from everywhere. Systems in terms of the number of conductors and connection schemes are also almost the same type.
      4. Former soldier
        Former soldier 12 February 2023 16: 09
        0
        And how will the production of modern weapons function in an already destroyed supply chain in a war,

        I listened to the Ukrainian analyst Bizyaev on YouTube. It turns out that there are areas in Ukraine that the war almost did not touch. They live together with the head of the region without sirens with electricity and do not want to know anything about problems in other areas. Because of this, scandals between the heads of other areas. Maybe the British are counting on these backwaters to house their war production? I suspect that these "quiet" areas border with Poland, Romania, Hungary, Moldova.
    2. james
      james 12 February 2023 09: 36
      +1
      Well, if you analyze the events of last year, then there are certain chances. And do not forget that England is a refuge for dozens, if not hundreds of Russian moneybags, and they will do anything to save their hard-earned money.
      1. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 12 February 2023 11: 17
        +1
        hundreds of Russian moneybags, and they, saving their hard-earned hard-earned money, will do anything.

        We have enough of these in our territory. Here recently
        The Ministry of Finance said that the "voluntary contribution" should apply to companies with windfall profits

        so the president of the RSPP, Chubais' fosterling Shokhin, refused to do so. That's all patriotism.
    3. grandfather_Kostya
      grandfather_Kostya 12 February 2023 09: 36
      0
      Or is it possible to set up workshops, produce products, and a rocket will not reach there? bully

      Well, you can build a factory right around a nuclear power plant and hope that Caliber will be "embarrassed" to send there.
      1. old
        old 12 February 2023 12: 13
        0
        Well, you can build a factory right around a nuclear power plant and hope that Caliber will be "embarrassed" to send there.

        And nearby are kindergartens, schools and pioneer camps all around ..
    4. ratoborets
      ratoborets 12 February 2023 09: 49
      +1
      Or is it possible to set up workshops, produce products, and a rocket will not reach there?

      They hope that the Russian leadership will not allow strikes on military production facilities belonging to "respectable partners."
      1. ivan2022
        ivan2022 12 February 2023 12: 42
        +1
        And if they do not hope, then they will take a share. And then they will definitely hope.
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  2. voice of reason
    voice of reason 12 February 2023 06: 33
    +2
    Even in relatively peaceful times, they were unable to establish production, and they plundered the Soviet backlog. There is not a single shell and cartridge factory in the former Ukraine! Although they were engaged in the supply of weapons to Africa in such a way that even Russia was pressed in this direction, but at the same time, Yuzhmash was still bankrupt and sold. And now the well-known formula6 "war will write off everything!" All these household names Shmatko, such activities are deployed that the former Ukraine will be synonymous with a black hole in terms of the theft of invested funds.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 12 February 2023 07: 58
      +3
      Quote: voice of reason
      Although they were engaged in the supply of weapons to Africa in such a way that even Russia was pressed in this direction

      So what did they press? Those that are left in warehouses from Soviet times. But the warehouses are also not endless. This is evidenced by the epidemic of fires in the armories of Ukraine even before the start of the war.

      Quote: voice of reason
      All these household names Shmatko, such activities are deployed that the former Ukraine will be synonymous with a black hole in terms of the theft of invested funds.
      I'm wondering - are those arrogant people SO naive not to understand this?
      And everything is so simple - "a certain amount" of millions of their pounds has been mastered, and then SUDDENLY a Russian rocket flew in and those millions are gone. Go later, figure it out - what burned out, what didn’t burn out, where the fish was wrapped ...
      Gold mine, damn it...
    2. Azim77
      Azim77 12 February 2023 07: 58
      0
      Quote: voice of reason
      "War will write everything off!"

      The defense industry of the United States and now Western countries is a black hole, with huge postscripts, overpricing and kickbacks. Where are the surpluses of printed, and recently just digital money written off in order to hold inflation. Hence the incredible size of the budget, where the constant modernization of the nail for the lid of the box of an innovative rag for wiping the points of the F-35 pilots .. So they need a war game, always on foreign territory and more to "spend" their dead money. Well, of course, I also want to earn real money for myself, for sleepless worries about the fate of taxpayers. They are looking for oil, gold, gas on foreign territory.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 February 2023 06: 36
    +4
    The UK intends not only to supply its weapons to Kyiv, but also to produce them on Ukrainian territory
    Do the British really assume that these enterprises are not threatened by anything on the territory of Ukraine? It is clear that there is competition for the arms market, but investing in the production of weapons directly in Ukraine is stupid. Or is this another promise solely for the moral support of Zelensky. Kyiv will naturally seize on any offer that smells like money.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 12 February 2023 07: 18
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Kyiv will naturally seize on any offer that smells like money.

      After listening to the message "Europe is with you," the British decided to profit from the money that Europe would give. Why can one Zelya steal? The impudent people also want to... join him.
    2. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 12 February 2023 07: 49
      +2
      This is all designed for the public. I mean the production of Western models on the territory of Ukraine .. The production of military equipment is actually brought to Poland, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic.
  4. evgen1221
    evgen1221 12 February 2023 06: 41
    +6
    The first is sawing by sirs. The second is sir fabulous idiots. Thirdly, the sirs thus want to circumvent the restrictions on the supply of certain types of weapons de jure, such as this F-35 was crushed in the basement of Zhmerinka under an English license.
  5. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 12 February 2023 06: 55
    +3
    It is necessary to load the British with the costs of maintaining the Ukronazis until they are completely ruined.
    The economy in war is still primary.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 12 February 2023 10: 39
      -2
      Unreal. Well, just incommensurable in quantity. The West can keep Ukraine conditionally forever.

      Let's take the current year - about 40 billion direct money (for food and pensions) + 50-80 billion (how else to count, in fact conditional 105 mm howitzers and shells for them, this is an unloading of the British budget, because there is no need to maintain storage warehouses and protect them) - military supplies.

      We take 120 billion a year - by the way, Ukraine's record GDP for 21 years is 198 billion dollars.

      Britain $3,1 trillion GDP
      Denmark 400 billion
      Germany 4,26 trillion
      US 23 trillion
      France 2,9 trillion
      Netherlands 1,09 trillion
      Belgium - 610 billion
      Italy - 2,1 trillion
      Spain - 1,4 trillion
      Norway - 502 billion
      Australia - 1,5 trillion
      Canada - 1,9 trillion
      Poland - 708 billion

      Here - they will be able to chip in together for 120 billion a year or not? And how hard do they have to squeeze? How much are they enough? Just guess.
      1. old
        old 12 February 2023 12: 20
        0
        Here - they will be able to chip in together for 120 billion a year or not? And how hard do they have to squeeze? How much are they enough? Just guess.

        So this money either does not leave these countries at all, or goes directly to the US military-industrial complex for new equipment, instead of the old one sent to Ukraine. At the same time, all junk is supplied to Ukraine on credit, which is closed from multimillion-dollar EU tranches. Ukraine has not seen this money and will not see it. But this is money for the war (more precisely, for its own rearmament), after which no one is going to support it. “Black Rock” will come there (which Zelensky happily announced in his New Year's address) and take everything that remains of the country, along with the remaining residents, who will work hard for the Sahib for bread and water. Here the fairy tale ends.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 12 February 2023 13: 01
          +1
          1) They give money - I'm talking about direct subsidies, for example, this year 40 billion. This is for food, pensions. They just arrive. If it were not for them, pensions would not be paid or paid with inflation of 1000%.
          2) Money for armaments is given according to different options:
          a) Conditional domestic tranche. For example, X million - for which you can buy armored vehicles in England from private traders or something else.
          b) EU Fund, etc. - where Reznikov spends it, buying all sorts of Boxers155 with delivery in 30 months.
          c) Special funds - for example, according to Suzanne or T-72 from Excalibur. Well, etc. Yes, there is no way to manage money.
          3) It is extremely doubtful, they will rather make a conditional eastern rampart. Pumping up equipment and weapons so that they defend Europe and pay with blood, if anything. That is, NATO is debatable, but the fact that Ukraine will be pumped up with weapons and will control the high combat readiness of the army is guaranteed.
      2. ivan2022
        ivan2022 12 February 2023 12: 44
        -1
        So Russia a year ago already made an advance payment of 300 billion
  6. Cuban
    Cuban 12 February 2023 07: 58
    +4
    Jewish Ukraine of the CIA agent Zelensky has long been bankrupt - what do the Britons want to earn on? on its own state budget
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  7. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 12 February 2023 08: 12
    0
    British press: London is negotiating with Kyiv on the opening of a joint production of weapons in Ukraine

    In our country there is a president who can create problems for this eternally spoiling Englishwoman or will he always hide his head in the sand?!
    I can’t understand, Russia is strong only in words and in cartoons, that it can’t create such problems for these vile islands so that they don’t stick out their stings and bare their poisonous fangs for half a century?
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 12 February 2023 08: 55
      +1
      Quote: ROSS 42
      I can't understand, Russia is strong only in words

      I listened to an interview with our ambassador in Poland, where he poured out about the necessity and importance of his activities ..., it brought tears to my eyes.
      Also, officials and Putin's entourage will prove to anyone about their necessity and indispensability.
      They proved that Medvedchuk is more important than the "Azov" killers.
    2. Aag
      Aag 12 February 2023 09: 51
      -3
      Quote: ROSS 42
      British press: London is negotiating with Kyiv on the opening of a joint production of weapons in Ukraine

      In our country there is a president who can create problems for this eternally spoiling Englishwoman or will he always hide his head in the sand?!
      I can’t understand, Russia is strong only in words and in cartoons, that it can’t create such problems for these vile islands so that they don’t stick out their stings and bare their poisonous fangs for half a century?

      Everything is according to plan: demilitarization! (Denazification has already been seen on the example of the Azov people).
      The red lines are torn like ... finishing ribbons in achieving their goals: they said about the Minsk agreements - they initially deceived; about undermining the Nord Stream almost openly confessed; ...
      This news, IMHO, is from the same series: "we will do what we see fit, and you wipe yourself ..."
      1. Aag
        Aag 12 February 2023 13: 18
        -1
        Quote: AAG
        Quote: ROSS 42
        British press: London is negotiating with Kyiv on the opening of a joint production of weapons in Ukraine

        In our country there is a president who can create problems for this eternally spoiling Englishwoman or will he always hide his head in the sand?!
        I can’t understand, Russia is strong only in words and in cartoons, that it can’t create such problems for these vile islands so that they don’t stick out their stings and bare their poisonous fangs for half a century?

        Everything is according to plan: demilitarization! (Denazification has already been seen on the example of the Azov people).
        The red lines are torn like ... finishing ribbons in achieving their goals: they said about the Minsk agreements - they initially deceived; about undermining the Nord Stream almost openly confessed; ...
        This news, IMHO, is from the same series: "we will do what we see fit, and you wipe yourself ..."

        Hmm ... Minus, I hope those who are not familiar with the above facts (?)))), and not those who are "at work".
        Ready to discuss with everyone else. hi
        (The "bell" is not displayed - I can be inoperative).
        1. Aag
          Aag 12 February 2023 16: 49
          0
          Quote: AAG
          Quote: AAG
          Quote: ROSS 42
          British press: London is negotiating with Kyiv on the opening of a joint production of weapons in Ukraine

          In our country there is a president who can create problems for this eternally spoiling Englishwoman or will he always hide his head in the sand?!
          I can’t understand, Russia is strong only in words and in cartoons, that it can’t create such problems for these vile islands so that they don’t stick out their stings and bare their poisonous fangs for half a century?

          Everything is according to plan: demilitarization! (Denazification has already been seen on the example of the Azov people).
          The red lines are torn like ... finishing ribbons in achieving their goals: they said about the Minsk agreements - they initially deceived; about undermining the Nord Stream almost openly confessed; ...
          This news, IMHO, is from the same series: "we will do what we see fit, and you wipe yourself ..."

          Hmm ... Minus, I hope those who are not familiar with the above facts (?)))), and not those who are "at work".
          Ready to discuss with everyone else. hi
          (The "bell" is not displayed - I can be inoperative).


          Not even three hours have passed since I talked with a friend who has both sons there ...
          Well! Spit in my face! In the face - if it's more convenient for you ... The essence will not change. What are you trying to prove ? - the declared "grinding"? ...
          You can be philosophic when this does not concern you personally, your loved ones (by the way, strategically, - making a decision to start a SVO, - I’m not saying that its beginning is not justified, but I have an opinion that it was late, it was not prepared, - that now became obvious!).
          Now, - kick, - but, I would like, - with arguments ...
          hi
  8. cniza
    cniza 12 February 2023 08: 56
    +6
    Against this background, the British wanted to organize the production of their weapons directly on the territory of Ukraine,


    The flag is yours...
  9. Clear
    Clear 12 February 2023 10: 53
    +4
    Quote: cniza
    Against this background, the British wanted to organize the production of their weapons directly on the territory of Ukraine,


    The flag is yours...

    No, Vitya No. the flag was in the recent past, and now - dollars and euros. fellow
  10. Serge9901
    Serge9901 12 February 2023 13: 30
    0
    No one in their right mind will set up real production there. Or there is a plan with specific agreements with our great helmsmen on the end of hostilities. Here, yes - whoever of the NATO mongrels fusses faster - he will "master" a piece of the huge US military budget.
  11. t-4
    t-4 12 February 2023 14: 20
    0
    And how does this fit in with the demilitarization we have announced?
    In the West, they are very good at counting money. And no one will invest a cent in a failed project.
    Or are we no longer counting?
  12. garik77
    garik77 12 February 2023 15: 30
    0
    It all looks like a bluff. The territory of the square is being shot through by our missiles, i.e. if there is a desire, any production can be destroyed in a couple of raids into the trash. Yes, and dragging sophisticated equipment there is also dumb, technology leaks, theft, etc. will begin. If only a screwdriver assembly, attach caterpillars to the tank. Then there will definitely be a warehouse of finished equipment nearby, according to which ours will work with pleasure.
    1. Aag
      Aag 12 February 2023 19: 20
      0
      Quote: garik77
      It all looks like a bluff. The territory of the square is being shot through by our missiles, i.e. if there is a desire, any production can be destroyed in a couple of raids into the trash. Yes, and dragging sophisticated equipment there is also dumb, technology leaks, theft, etc. will begin. If only a screwdriver assembly, attach caterpillars to the tank. Then there will definitely be a warehouse of finished equipment nearby, according to which ours will work with pleasure.

      Yeah. Like oil and gas pipelines, ammonia outlets, grain tankers...
      Is the country at war? Or only those who are supposed to?
      If everything is as serious as some "Kremlin spokesmen" are saying, maybe it's time for everyone to tense up? (In my opinion, do not excuse me for spoiling the mood - everything is much more serious, sadder than the media are trying to present - the Soloovievs, the Simonyans ... Now, it looks like an attempt to justify deeds (act, - action, or inaction. ..) a number of persons in various structures of our State that led to ... the current unfavorable situation for the development, existence, survival of the Russian nation (Oh! Chauvinism according to domestic laws!).
      Try to hammer further!
      I don’t think, disrespectful top-rights, that we will come to the result you expect!!!
      The people are often - stupid, deceived ... Why hide - often simply - stupid - by your efforts, formations ...)).
      Ay- come on!!! Even about ten years ago, it’s true, I was ready to fill myself with a portak, in our way; tattoo, - according to the present: like - K. Marx, F. Engels, V. Lenin ....
      Below: Putin, Shoigu Lavrov...
      Funny ....
      But - sorry, - the truth ... ((((.
      Who's to say - what am I wrong now?
  13. razved
    razved 12 February 2023 15: 37
    0
    To build a plant in a country at war, the entire territory of which is under attack, is at least strange. It looks like another joint cut of the dough
  14. DefenderofTruth
    DefenderofTruth 13 February 2023 22: 27
    0
    Why not lead?
    Electricity generation in Ukraine is still safe and sound, there is no air dominance of the Russian Aerospace Forces, and the plant can be completely covered by both Patriots and IRISs.