Retired British general admitted the possibility of loss of control of the Armed Forces of three major cities

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Retired British general admitted the possibility of loss of control of the Armed Forces of three major cities

In the foreseeable future, the Ukrainian armed forces may lose control over three major cities, which will be the result of the success of Russian troops in the course of a special military operation. This was stated by Major General of the Royal Army of Great Britain, retired Rupert Jones, whose opinion is quoted by The Express.

According to Jones, the Armed Forces of Ukraine can leave Artemovsk after a series of serious defeats. But if everything is clear with Artemovsk, then the forecast for the other two cities is more interesting. Jones predicts the possibility of losing control over Zaporozhye and Kharkov. The general noted that he could not accurately indicate the locations of the upcoming major battles, since the Russian and Ukrainian sides keep their plans secret.



The British military expert compares the future stage of the special operation with a chess game. He notes that in the near future there will be a lot of speculation regarding further developments, but this will not be what one can expect.

Recall that Major General Rupert Jones until 2021 served as commander of the combined forces in the British army, and previously was assistant chief of the general staff. His predictions may be based on information obtained in the course of communication with former and current high-ranking military officers of the British army.

However, so far there are no grounds to consider the liberation of Kharkov or Zaporozhye a close task. But a lot depends on how quickly the Ukrainian defense lines can be breached and how intense the Russian offensive is.
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  1. +4
    February 10 2023
    I am not a British general, but I predict the loss of Artemovsk, Seversk and Ugledar by the enemy. This is just as obvious as whoever is now everywhere cissovta will disperse the news about the column under coal. They came up with a digital victory for themselves and now they are puffing up from it ...
    1. +2
      February 10 2023
      Tomorrow, a British general will be surprised to find his data on the "peacekeeper" wassat
      1. -8
        February 10 2023
        The expert is big, he knows better.
        Or is he a prominent expert?
        I wonder what we're going to do with those cities? Can't we take them?
        1. +3
          February 10 2023
          Quote: antivirus
          I wonder what we're going to do with those cities?


          The same as with Mariupol. Restore.
          1. +3
            February 10 2023
            There's a hole in the budget. The oligarchs sent Putin with his one-time contribution. If every city is rebuilt from the ashes like this (I'm not saying that they still need to be recaptured), then even the US budget will not be enough with their dollars cut out of paper.
            1. -1
              February 11 2023
              Quote: azkolt
              The oligarchs sent Putin with his one-time contribution.

              They will not go anywhere, because they perfectly understand that they will earn more money on the restoration of the same cities, and there is also a huge pile of work ...
            2. 0
              February 11 2023
              Quote: azkolt
              There's a hole in the budget.

              Already?
              And NATO countries have a Chronic Hole in their budgets.
              So what ? smile
              Quote: azkolt
              If so, every city to rebuild from the ashes

              Is there any choice?
              An alternative to a fascist enemy state with a common border of 3000 km. Do not offer .
              And proposals to "negotiate with the Anglo-Saxons" - too.
              It's just not possible.

              Quote: azkolt
              even the US budget is not enough with their dollars cut out of paper.

              There will be many free workers in the former Ukraine and there used to be a fairly developed construction infrastructure ... something may remain. People will have something to do. Moreover, heavy industry is unlikely to be restored. But agriculture is more than.
              And in Russia they canceled the Budget Rule.
              Do you know what it is?
              And yet - the monetization of the Russian economy is planned to be brought to a NORMAL level.
              Well, let me remind you that world prices for metals, coal and food have grown very ... very seriously.
              Quote: azkolt
              The oligarchs sent Putin with his one-time contribution.

              Once one oligarch has already sent this person. Apparently he did not take into account that together with him he sent a consolidated opinion of a very influential group of comrades. And you know the name of that oligarch.
              Do you admit that now the group of comrades is less consolidated ?
              Do you really think that a group (NOT ALL!) of big businessmen can threaten the state during the war, where they ... "earned" (really - just GOT) everything they own and have?
              Do you really think so?
              Do you think that those who "sent" are cooler than the one who sent before?
              Not a specific person.
              A group of comrades.
              It seems to me that if the list of "Russian billionaires" becomes somewhat shorter as a result of the settlement of differences, the world will only become more stable.
              Therefore, you should not send anyone to anyone.
              But everyone can leave.
              1. +1
                February 11 2023
                1) It feels like I'm writing to a child, sorry! They have a hole in the budget that is liquidated very simply by printing money, they didn’t know until now?
                2) First you need to set goals, and then reason. If the liberation of part of Ukraine, then their cities should lie in the ashes, and not those that we will get!
                3) Prices have risen for everything, but the main export products are under sanctions or under the price ceiling and, by the way, have fallen very much in value. And we can trade only through China and Turkey, giving at a big discount, because our sea transportation is also difficult to implement.
                4) Regarding this verbiage, I only know that they refused to pay the fee and so far they have nothing for it. Yes, and I'm sure, until it happens, Putin is not in a position to quarrel with them now. And they stopped respecting him, and who will do it, after all the events! I’ll write right away that the Military Review made it impossible for me to receive answers to my posts!
                In general, anyone can puff out their cheeks and shout cheers, cheers, but understand that the situation is developing far from for the better and huge miscalculations have been made in everything ... in my opinion, this has also been clear to everyone for a long time. What is not clear is what the government thinks, what it hopes for? That the Russian Vanka, again with his blood, will break all this in his favor? But I don’t even SEE the encroachments that I can change from the authorities, how the thieves were sitting there and how they were called Hindenburgs in the cart, and they are sitting. I would also call them Gnideburgs. Strelkov correctly said about them that they are not trainable in principle. That the defeat of the column near Ugledar only confirms and this is already a year after the start of the operation!
                1. 0
                  February 11 2023
                  Quote: azkolt
                  Military review made it impossible for me to receive answers to my posts!

                  The notification about the reply to a comment does not work for me either, I think these are site problems, there were serious attacks on it.
                  Quote: azkolt
                  It feels like I'm writing to a child, sorry!

                  The carefree years of childhood are long gone.
                  Quote: azkolt
                  They have a hole in the budget that is liquidated very simply by printing money, they didn’t know until now?

                  The administration of the President of the United States does not have such rights and opportunities , just as the Congress and the Senate do not have such rights and opportunities . And the Treasury does not have such an opportunity (I don’t remember if they have a Treasury now).
                  When there is not enough money in the US budget, they BORROW THEM from the banking cartel (and there are such in every state) at interest. And every year they increase this debt... and pay more and more interest. And recently, BANKERS began to regularly raise interest rates for them.
                  In the Russian Federation, the budget has been exclusively PROFICIENT over the past many years. And now the Russian Federation also has the opportunity to turn on ... a printing press. Yes, according to the plan and on the limit, but this is a long-term program of DOMONETIZATION of the Russian economy.
                  And in the Russian Federation, the Budget Rule was canceled, according to which the IMF and the World Bank took away from us all the proceeds for oil above 40 dollars. per barrel.
                  What kind of ceiling was installed there now?
                  Moreover , we did not recognize him .
                  Just do not think that I am a fan of bawling "cheers" for every occasion and without it, I just try to carefully observe what is happening.
                  Didn't you notice that in the area in which we were considered obviously weak and extremely vulnerable, we resisted and even increased budget revenues?
                  But in what was considered our ... only strong point - military force ... we showed ... not at all the results that even the most pessimists counted on. And to get rid of these ... vices is extremely difficult.
                  And yes - generals are untrainable.
                  Stalin also did not start with "Suvorovs" - the defeats of 1941 - 1942. , the fault is exclusively Zhukov and Timoshenko ... and other authors of that mess were enough.
                  And only when the enemy was near the Volga and the Caucasus, and the inevitable "wall of General Pavlov" loomed for the generals and marshals, they began to take their heads ... Yes, then Comrade Stalin became the Commander-in-Chief and controlled, rechecked and weighed their every initiative .... Yes, and they were YOUNG then. By age, they would have to command divisions, or even regiments ...
                  And you look at Gerasimov and "feel" the whole depth of his thought.
                  Dai is not Stalin at all now at the head of state.
                  And the state is not the same.
                  Quote: azkolt
                  2) First you need to set goals, and then reason. If the liberation of part of Ukraine, then their cities should lie in the ashes, and not those that we will get!

                  I am sure that this is not at all about this - it will not only not solve, but WILL aggravate the issue. After the hypothetical (and passionately desired by the United States and NATO agreements), it will immediately be accepted into NATO and military bases of the alliance will be located there. And the entire western bloc will turn into a single military camp.
                  Do we need it?
                  ... No, not for us - do they (the so-called "elite" of the Russian Federation) need it?
                  If for the vast majority it has long dawned that in the event of a defeat they will not just be robbed ... and not even just take their lives ... they will simply be fed to pigs. Together with families.
                  This is far from the case when it is possible to "sell the Motherland profitably and inexpensively."
                  Quote: azkolt
                  Prices have risen for everything, except that the main export products are under sanctions or under the price ceiling

                  Since the beginning of 2020, prices have increased significantly (metals, coal), and there is a shortage of food in the world, there is still a shortage of gas ... oil ... and a number of other basic products. Calculate for yourself - if before, regardless of the exchange price, we were paid no more than 40 dollars for our oil. per barrel, and now they set the ceiling at ... 60 dollars. , then selling even for ... 45 dollars. , aren't we getting more than before?
                  When considering filling the budget , one must look and dance from the base . From the real base - what was, to what we have now.
                  Quote: azkolt
                  And we can trade only through China and Turkey, giving at a big discount, because our sea transportation is also difficult to implement.

                  Not only, but these partners are the most valuable. Although they forgot about India.
                  But with maritime transportation ... Last year alone, Russia purchased about 500 large and VERY large merchant ships on the secondary market. We now have our own HUGE Merchant Fleet, our own insurance companies ... and in general, being under sanctions, we even increased the export of our oil and oil products. Yes - at a discount, but much higher than the price threshold of the notorious Budget Rule from the IMF and WB. As a result, last year we received about $250 billion in real money. more than in 2021.
                  Quote: azkolt
                  I only know that they refused to pay the fee and so far they have nothing for it.

                  Do you admit the idea that when making such an offer to them, the option of their refusal was not foreseen?
                  You surprise me .
                  It is in military affairs that a fireman and his women do not understand a damn thing, but in economics and finance, the "Group of Comrades" has become very adept. Yes, and the proposal, I think, was only an excuse - an impulse to launch for already prepared and agreed decisions. And the legislative basis for this was summed up at the beginning of the NWO.
                  So I don’t puff out my cheeks and I don’t like “grunting”. Just as I do not see simple , easily hung solutions . Everything will be very difficult, painful and bloody. And it won't end quickly. How it will not end with one Ukraine.
                  Quote: azkolt
                  Russian Vanka again with his blood, will he turn all this in his favor?

                  Yes, it is only thanks to them - the "Russian Vankas" that our God-saved Fatherland is still holding on.
                  Quote: azkolt
                  the defeat of the column near Ugledar only confirms and this is already a year after the start of the operation!

                  I'm telling you - generals are untrainable.
                  And the "Wall of General Pavlov" is not involved.
                  And I probably heard the sounds of a blow on that column ... from the center of Donetsk on the other side it is clearly audible.
                  And this night I heard "Kord" (12,7), a tank and a mortar ... almost from the center. It can be seen divers were chasing.
                  Unfortunately, columns sometimes really burn in a war ... and these columns are not always enemy ones.
              2. -2
                February 13 2023
                Quote: bayard
                Do you really think that a group (NOT ALL!) of big businessmen can threaten the state during the war, where they ... "earned" (really - just GOT) everything they own and have?

                Of course not. They can only participate in the negotiations in Istanbul, after which another goodwill gesture will be announced.
      2. 0
        February 10 2023
        Quote: Black
        Tomorrow, a British general will be surprised to find his data on the "peacekeeper"


        and absolutely nothing will happen, since this "peacemaker" hasn't hit anyone and moreover .. no one has even heard of him at all.
        Elusive Joe.
    2. +1
      February 10 2023
      Quote: voice of reason
      I am not a British general, but I predict the loss of Artemovsk, Seversk and Ugledar by the enemy.


      Well, you don't have to be Wang here. laughing These cities will take, a matter of time.
      1. 0
        February 10 2023
        Quote: Carat
        These cities will take, a matter of time.

        And, for a very long time.
    3. -1
      February 10 2023
      Quote: voice of reason
      This is just as obvious as whoever is now everywhere cissovta will disperse the news about the column under coal. They came up with a digital victory for themselves and now they are puffing up from it ...

      Speaking of cissote... is there any way to block it on this site? And then it gets ridiculous. Yesterday, one chick-chick, as he came in for a shift, went to put minuses anywhere. I suddenly had two dozen minuses in two dozen messages within just a few minutes. Moreover, in my comments, which were both fresh, and old, and long gone ... including comments in foreign languages ​​:)) There were zeros .. I look - and suddenly before our eyes they become -1, -1, -1 ...
      That is, it is quite obvious that the minus player just sat down in front of the monitor - and went from the bulldozer to press the buttons.
      To be honest, it is strange that the administration of the resource does not fight these trolls.
      1. +5
        February 10 2023
        Quote: Peter_Koldunov
        To be honest, it is strange that the administration of the resource does not fight these trolls.


        What about the meaning? He was banned, so he immediately went overboard and again for his own. Yes, and how many points can an ordinary minus take away? Nonsense.
      2. 0
        February 10 2023
        There were zeros .. I look - and suddenly before our eyes they become -1, -1, -1

        So in TsIPSO piecework payment
      3. +1
        February 10 2023
        Here they work in teams, and it’s not a fact that they are not the majority among the commentators ... I judge by the estimates of the comments, well, by the content ...
        1. -2
          February 11 2023
          So let them not catch people on the street, for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it’s easier to go to the TsIPSO. Well, a question for our strategists: why are they alive?
      4. +1
        February 13 2023
        And how will you determine that he is from TsIPSO? If his post does not begin with patriotic slogans? Or for the slightest criticism in an eternal ban? So maybe it's easier to create a section of the site "Patriotic patriots patriotic patriotic messages from patriotic patriots?"
    4. +3
      February 10 2023
      Quote: voice of reason
      I am not a British general, but I predict the loss of Artemovsk, Seversk and Ugledar by the enemy. This is just as obvious as whoever is now everywhere cissovta will disperse the news about the column under coal. They came up with a digital victory for themselves and now they are puffing up from it ...

      Artyomovsk is hanging by a thread. Do not rush with Carbon. There, our unfortunate generals broke the sides. Seversk is well pressed from the south. Yes, and from the north they press in the forest. Breaking through the defense, as Popasna does not work. The APU is also learning. Near Kupyansk they are pressing both from the north and from the south.
      To create the Brusilovsky breakthrough in the Donbass, it is necessary to attack along the entire front line so that the enemy does not know the place of the main attack and pulls apart his reserves in parts.
    5. +2
      February 10 2023
      They came up with a digital victory for themselves and now they are puffing up from it ...

      Of course, you can think as much as you like that the event took place only in the minds and imagination, but unfortunately this is not so and everyone knows this.
      You will have to tinker with Ugledar, but if Artemovsk is liberated, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine can leave Ugledar themselves. Although the place there is very important for them to attack towards Melitopol.
  2. +2
    February 10 2023
    Looks like retired British generals are becoming British scientists.
  3. +3
    February 10 2023
    All these experts, retired and ex, have fallen in love tightly, people want attention, so they scribble all, censorship.
  4. -3
    February 10 2023
    a chess game at times, like in Ugledar, the brilliant command sends slender columns, apparently to make it more convenient to hit it; here it resembles a billiard game.
    A year of special operations and some "Geniuses in Command" do not teach anything mistakes, a conscript who took by the breasts was tightened from 5.5 to 7 years in a colony, and everything is like water off a duck's back for stupid commanders.
    We'll go far with this approach.
    1. +2
      February 10 2023
      You will go far, to the border with psheks, only someone is in front, and someone is behind.
      1. -5
        February 10 2023
        It is argued that it is said right to the root of the problem, only I am 4000 kilometers southeast of the border with Poland, but did you try to object to the case?
        Cons, too, I'm sure people put those who look at the root of the problem))))
        1. -1
          February 10 2023
          Quote: On Derebasovskaya
          only I am from the border with Poland 4000 kilometers southeast of it

          And what, did the CISO open a branch in Abu Dhabi, or in Dubai?
          If in the case, then such figures as you on the site should be deleted without talking. But VO admins treat you painfully carefully.
          1. +3
            February 11 2023
            About TsIPSO did not go humor can be the following.
            Do you distinguish your Wishlist from the answer on the case to my first comment?
            And so, yes, soon shout Moscow oh tsipsolyatu to be shot or something like that.
            And when they ask questions about what happened, here it is, it’s stupid to deny it, you put a saucepan on your head and shout tsipso, I saw this somewhere, but it’s like the Ukrainians masked everywhere you are nothing different exactly one people)))
      2. -4
        February 10 2023
        Quote from uprun
        You will go far, to the border with psheks, only someone is in front, and someone is behind.

        Judging by the azimuth, this young friend of the CISO is working remotely from somewhere in the UAE. He hopes that when Wagner attacks, he will only have to drape from the hotel to the beach, where he will shout: "Akhmat is power!"
        1. +4
          February 11 2023
          this is some kind of absurdity in Russia, part of the people are turning into Ukrainians who are not able to perceive uncomfortable questions, but we will throw hats and drive to Poland, this is certainly good, but here it’s already in the details that I outlined one detail, and the Muscovites and the CIPSO are to blame for everything don't you think so?
          I said, in fact, there is even a video of 3 pieces, like where in Russian telegram channels, even the same kotsnevs seemed to be where tanks and lighter armor go on the offensive under the coals and there is a defeat of this armor standing next to each other, watch the video photo of the parking lots of vehicles nearby in heaps, do you think this is how it should be? I'm not saying that it's like this everywhere, but where this is noticed, should something be done about it?
        2. +1
          February 11 2023
          I can tell you now Akhmat strength! you just had a thought from scratch about cisso in your head and you start talking nonsense
  5. 0
    February 10 2023
    What kind of kayfun - typhoon!? Forecast of the people: clown - kaput, ruin - kaput, Russians and primordially Russian lands - home, geyrope - .. oops, striped - the dominance of blacks and transgender people, and yes, the dollar is in line. Russia is my Home!
  6. +1
    February 10 2023
    However, there is no reason to assume liberation of Kharkov or Zaporozhye no close task. But much depends on how quickly will be able to break through the lines of the Ukrainian defense and how intense the Russian offensive will be.
    recourse Rave. Well, it has nothing to do with it... request Yes, and liberate Kharkov tomorrow, .... better after Kyiv. feel It will be more whole.
  7. +1
    February 10 2023
    As they say, we don't need much. Only in this list, also include Kherson and Odessa, Nikolaev and Slavyansk. Oh yes Kyiv too
  8. 0
    February 10 2023
    Jones predicts the possibility of losing control over Zaporozhye and Kharkov. The general noted that he could not accurately indicate the locations of the upcoming major battles, since the Russian and Ukrainian sides keep their plans secret.

    They retire and immediately the adequacy manifests itself ..))))
    And my forecast will be the main blow to Odessa, you need to cut off some of the sea, well, a corridor to Pridnestrovie .. And it would be even better, together with the Belarusians, to cut off Poland on the border with the Ukrainians, well, at least destroy all the roads there, the railway bridges Warehouses and etc.
    1. +1
      February 10 2023
      Quote from Luka Nord
      And my forecast will be the main blow to Odessa, you need to cut off the sea from the sea, well, a corridor to Pridnestrovie

      And after the Ukrainians with Harpoons and Neptunes drown all the large landing craft heading for Odessa with a landing force, will you be among the first to shout about the stupidity of the command that let the landing force sink to the bottom?
      The experience of "Moscow" put an end to the idea of ​​liberating Odessa. As well as the "difficult decision" of the "great" Surovikin put an end to the liberation of Kherson for a very long time.
  9. +1
    February 10 2023
    Quote: Black
    Tomorrow, a British general will be surprised to find his data on the "peacekeeper" wassat

    In the place of the Americans, I would take this site to the nail if the data of American citizens get there. The undead shores are confused, given that they are striped, they don’t owe anything to these forelocked bums.
  10. 0
    February 11 2023
    Until our bridges over the Dnieper are destroyed, and all the junction railway stations, arrows, road junctions and aviaducts, there will be no breakthrough, but only squeezing.
    Until there is a normal organization of the battle (interaction of air defense, drones, aviation, artillery, armor, and only then cleaning by infantry) - breakthroughs are not possible in principle.
    Remote setting of minefields behind enemy lines too.
    But first, the entire left bank, and the north of Ukraine with Kyiv, must be surrounded by a counter-terrorist operation zone.
    Well, it's time to legalize and issue marque patents. By the way, the United States has such laws at home and almost turned it on against Iraq.
  11. +1
    February 12 2023
    Gentlemen commentators-sofa experts, let's be patient. If no significant progress (offensive) occurs in the next month, then our affairs (Russia) in the Ukrainian conflict, to put it mildly, are not brilliant. And in the spring and summer, the new trained reserves of Ukraine will no longer give us serious success. Our chance is February-half of March before the mudslide.

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