The Italian press announced that the Kremlin would allegedly welcome the idea of ​​creating a buffer zone on the border with Ukraine

Against the backdrop of comprehensive military assistance provided by the West to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Kyiv regime is confident in the success of the massive offensive planned for the spring. However, this optimism is not shared by a number of foreign observers, who suggest that the command of the RF Armed Forces has carefully prepared the troops to repel the attacks and intends to defeat the independent army in head-on battles.

As indicated in the publication Analisi Difesa, a major defeat that awaits the Ukrainian army will lead to the complicity of the Kyiv regime. Pressure on him will also be exerted by European countries, which least of all want to continue the conflict.

It is possible to create a new "Berlin Wall", which would guarantee Russia the protection of the western borders and at the same time would avoid further bleeding of the two opposing countries

- noted in the Italian press.

According to the author, if this scenario is implemented, Russia will keep the Donbass and Crimea, and the 100-kilometer zone between them and the Ukrainian territories will be turned into uninhabited wastelands with infrastructure completely destroyed by rocket and artillery strikes (roads and railways, bridges, power grid, radio communication towers etc.). The demilitarized zone will run east of the Dnieper and will capture such cities as Kherson, Kramatorsk, Slavyansk, Kharkov, Poltava, the population of which will be evacuated.

The Kremlin does not object to the idea of ​​a buffer zone. This model will be welcomed in Moscow, even if the most inflexible "hawks" want to neutralize all of Ukraine

- believe in the publication Analisi Difesa, predicting a truce between the parties to the conflict.

Comments

[Bear]

No, "Italian friends" are the wet dreams of European leaders and their masters. Russian cities: Kherson, Kramatorsk, Slavyansk, Kharkov, Poltava, even if they are destroyed, they will definitely "rise from the ashes" and will be restored, as Mariupol will be completely restored. And this will be our national idea for the next decade - the gathering of Russian lands.

[Luka Nord]

Quote: Orso

And this will be our national idea for the next decade - the gathering of Russian lands.

And no more Ukrainians, etc. EVERYONE has suffered enough! Who does not want to live in harmony with Russia, your problems. And we are tired of expressing concern, etc. But the main goal of Russia and Co. is to lower the Anglo-Saxons instigators of all wars and robberies of the countries of the world. And Russia will definitely achieve this, we will not stand up for the price and will return everything later

[Nikolay310]

you may be tired ... but Lavrov and Zakharova have these concerns in store for 100 years ahead

[ivan1979nkl]

The Kremlin will allegedly welcome the idea of ​​creating a buffer zone on the border with Ukraine

a buffer zone is needed not on the border with Ukraine, but on the border with NATO. Why should Ukraine be divided into territories: the western regions are a buffer, the center is a republic within Russia, the southeast is Russia proper

[DefenderofTruth]

Buffer zone for Russia is possible only in Galicia

[ilimnoz]

At the current pace, you will be going to this configuration for 50 years. where are the crowds of volunteers defending the Motherland. where is the mobilization where at least a millionth grouping of troops. or you want to bring the situation to nuclear strikes." ....... "(quote by Lavrov)

[tralflot1832]

These idiots may be right, we are not against the "buffer zone" along the current border of Poland and Ukraine. The buffer zone to the borders of NATO in 1997. They are already thinking in the right direction, they remembered the buffer zones.

[Luka Nord]

Quote: tralflot1832

They are already thinking in the right direction, they remembered with the buffer zones.

Poland will be a buffer zone and the Baltic states .. And then we'll see more hehe

[tralflot1832]

The Finns will remember alcoholic tours to St. Petersburg. A liter of vodka, a spare part from Lepa or F 35.

[Luka Nord]

Quote: tralflot1832

The Finns will remember alcoholic tours to St. Petersburg. A liter of vodka, a spare part from Lepa or F 35.

They already miss those times, but they have a thin gut against the impudent Saxons.
Who is behind him? Even if he meets the King of Great Britain in crumpled trousers and a T-shirt and yells, give fighters, etc.
The mystery of the century, but Russia will reveal it

[yasel]

The buffer zone should be West Germany.

[Tusv]

Quote: tralflot1832

These idiots may be right, we are not against the "buffer zone" along the current border of Poland and Ukraine. The buffer zone to the borders of NATO in 1997. They are already thinking in the right direction, they remembered the buffer zones.

For example, I'm against it. Because they need limitrophy solely for the attack

[ivan1979nkl]

we are not against the "buffer zone"

+ The Baltic states and the neutral status of Finland

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: tralflot1832

These idiots may be right, we are not against the "buffer zone" along the current border of Poland and Ukraine. The buffer zone to the borders of NATO in 1997. They are already thinking in the right direction, they remembered the buffer zones.

It looks like it. Apparently, it is beginning to dawn on them that defeating Russia in the Ukrainian glade will not work out for them, and therefore they begin to test the ground and throw options acceptable to them in order to assess the response.

[okunevich_rv]

judging by the statements of Poland, the buffer zone will pass through its territory, right in the middle of the funnel

[Luka Nord]

In vain you hope for the Lord ... We will end Ukraine and there will be military districts .. And there are no supposedly 38th parallels (like the Koreans "and even more so the new" Israel "in Europe, as Zelya dreams with one general of the United States ..

[Nikolay310]

Quote from Luka Nord

We will finish Ukraine and there will be military districts

maybe not military districts, but economically developed regions with a growing and wealthy population?

it’s very hard to believe ... apparently, there will be some agreements and they will be not in favor of Russia ... although the nightingales will write down Putin’s unprecedented victories ... in any case, until 2014 there were actually two Ukraines, which they fought among themselves ... now there will be (if Moscow merges) a single Bandera Ukraine, separated from the Russian people by blood. and all that propaganda that has been growing there for 8 years will now be assimilated in a matter of hours ... and no Medvedchuks will decide anything there ...

in the interests of the Russian people, a clear victory with the movement of the border to the West. everything else will be the defeat of the Russian Federation ... only the problem is that the Russian people and those who have settled in the Kremlin, in the government, on Frunze, etc. have different interests

[Luka Nord]

Quote: Nikolay310

maybe not military districts, but economically developed regions with a growing and wealthy population?

Only agriculture and mining Was there already industrialization and where is EVERYTHING?

[Viktor Sergeev]

An excellent buffer zone is the radioactive desert on the site of Western Ukraine.

[Luka Nord]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

An excellent buffer zone is the radioactive desert on the site of Western Ukraine.

Well, why so tough .. Too much honor! The main hornet's nest now Russia knows where it is (the masks have already been dropped!
This is what our structures are working on..

And this sinister building, very nervous

[tralflot1832]

If the Pentagon is a meat processing plant, then it would be necessary to give it to Spartak.

[Leshak]

The demilitarized zone will run along the Polish-Ukrainian border. This option should suit Russia and nothing else.

[Alexey Krasnogorsky]

If the border with Ukraine is somewhere in the region of Lviv, then a possible option

[The popuas]

The buffer zone must pass through the wasteland ... where Poland once cherished dreams of the collapse of Russia .... nothing else!

[Alexga]

The Italians are somewhat cunning. Already in the West they are openly saying that if Russia wins this conflict, the West will end. The United States does not object to this at all, they have a specific goal - the Marshall Plan-2. Therefore, they have a specific goal, it is to reconcile Russia and Ukraine. In any case, Ukraine, as a state, must be preserved. Do we need it???

[mongolian9999]

Agree. Buffer zone along the zero meridian.

[tTshka]

Here Lavrov's non-normative quote is very requested ..

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Orso

No, "Italian friends" are the wet dreams of European leaders and their masters.

I agree.
Buffer zone possible
but at the expense of the Polish lands.
Let them play on the territory of their voivodeships even until they are blue in the face.

[Strannik96]

To destroy is to the country and its feudal lords, and we are building a buffer zone too, from Lvov and further to the west.

[Cicerist98]

Quit attacking atheists, you religious maniac. If REAL atheists - such as Stalin and Lenin - were in charge in Russia today (and had been in charge for the past 2-3 decades), neither Russia nor Ukraine would be in the state they are in now; and the Western rulers would not dare to treat Russia with the spit-in-your-face contempt that they do now. The defining feature of the people and the system that have been in power in Russia 1990 is NOT "atheism" - it is belief in neoliberal oligarchic capitalism, globalism, and a delusional, starry-eyed admiration of Western "partners" and the " Western way" in economy, politics and society.

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: tun5t

With our atheists in power at the prayer place in the Kremlin

Did you wind up the metaphor yourself, or did you read it in a training manual? Have you not heard that Caesar's is Caesar's, but God's is God's?

Quote: tun5t

It’s not at all clear where exactly to look for traitors

Do you have a task to search for traitors? If "it is not clear where exactly to look," then why did you immediately rush to the Kremlin after them? Confused in the testimony, or solved another problem - to come up with a betrayal of Putin.

[tun5t]

And you don’t need to invent anything - God’s is God’s, and Caesar’s is Caesar’s! There is already an example of Peter 1, he reclaimed a whole city for officials in order to build an empire, and left a prayer place for the Batushki, in prayer to the Lord! There is nothing to think about here - it is more comfortable for atheists in the Kali Yuga to manage not from the walls of the Kremlin. It is knowledge, Veda (Sanskrit) is called, the second leg on the way to the Lord, along with Faith (Sanskrit). And without a leg or two, as you know, a cripple (Kali ka, Sanskrit). If anything, you can yourself, throwing off the tinsel of pride of your "position in society", return to your "I" and understand. Nothing complicated, it would be a desire!

[tun5t]

It looks like everyone forgot how the Lord drove all the money changers and merchants out of the temple? why? Isn't it the same in Rus'? Why is it suddenly called centrifugal force? Nobody wants to think? Why is it for 104 years, after like cuckoos, they put Lenin in the Kremlin and others like him, why did it suddenly become THREE times less people in Rus'? Although under the kings there were always twice as many as in Europe! And the wars also went on and the rulers were stupid .... and the people lived and bred, however! And the Germans have gouged the whole country, but now they have an area like Buryatia, more than half of Russia lives, 86 million people. why is that? We have many times more land, and the people are only now, for the first time in history, for 104 years of power of the atheists in the Kremlin at the place of prayer, so shriveled! And the reason is knowledge - we are not the body, we are the soul, and other feelings act on us, comparable to the "lash of the Lord", chasing money changers and merchants! And the details are in the Vedas, if not "weakly"

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: tun5t

This is knowledge, Veda (Sanskrit) is called

Except for the stubborn Hindus, they are all called faith, not knowledge. Literate Hindus distinguish faith from knowledge and do not look for atheists in the Kremlin; for them, everything except the Hindus are atheists, because they do not know Brahman, their Atman does not see the right path. If you don’t run away, then there is a chance in some next life to be born in India, become a Hindu and go to Nirvana.

[tun5t]

Eh. Shishkin Stanislav! labor still in search of daily bread....otherwise their God,; ours, therefore, is God ..... take the trouble to understand that there is only one power on earth, like in heaven. And the Veda is knowledge, "many minds worship Me," says the Lord. But the first step starts with Vera ..... Well, what do you need to explain a lot? - you yourself should want to get out of a comfortable swamp .... as long as a frog, or an ant, it’s not interesting further than a swamp or anthill. And nirvana is just to break the chain of rebirth and return "home" ... "DO NOT SAVE gold on earth, because aphids rust and thieves creep up, save in heaven, your home is there!" Existence often has to send servants and each time they explain it in such a way that they would understand. From here and a bunch of religions, but we, like small children, have rested and do not want to understand everything together. Such things are on Earth, and the details are in the Vedas (knowledge)
{Be - direction, vector home; Yes - mind}
{Be - direction, vector home; Ra is the light of truth from God}

[ratoborets]

Pressure on him will also be exerted by European countries, which least of all want to continue the conflict.

Since when did the puppets decide something there?
Small-shaven and mattress covers are the main figures, the so-called West is dancing to their chords.

[Nikolay310]

any agreement with the West now is the way to the Stone Age for Russia. pseudo-Ylita is again bargaining for the supply of cheap resources to the West, will again give up on import substitution and all sorts of technological independence, and will again calmly deal with parades, photo reports and exhibitions with Universiades ... and the Russian people will continue their extinction with such a policy ...

Ylitkam what to lose, they have enough oil and gas ... well, the rest will again not fit into the market under the urapatriotic bravado of the owners of villas on Lake Como

[Ulan.1812]

On the border of the former Ukraine and Poland? Why not.

[Andron78]

Where do they get this nonsense from? No mind, no fantasy, no knowledge of geography.

[Eug]

Ofiget .. and who and where will evacuate the mass of the population of 100 km. zones - there is not one million? And will the population agree to evacuate, and if so, on what terms? As for me, the idea is complete nonsense.

[RED_ICE]

Here is one who knows everything writes:
The United States needs to freeze the Ukrainian conflict, so now Washington is looking for suitable options. This was stated by military journalist Yuri Podolyaka. According to him, the Americans can order Ukraine to surrender many new areas in order to stop the fighting.
“They are ready to surrender the Mykolaiv, Odessa, Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk regions. The version of the division line by voting is being thrown in,” Podolyaka said on the air of the Krym 24 TV channel.
He stressed that in this way the United States is preparing the ground for negotiations with Russia. However, at the moment, such proposals do not arouse interest in Moscow, the expert pointed out.

https://www.pravda.ru/news/world/1799251-jurii_podoljaka_ukraina_nikolaev_odessa_dnepropetrovsk_ssha/

[Ghost1]

This expert, of course, is still an "expert", he stopped listening to him that year in the spring, a lot of empty words. And besides, even after the departure from Kherson, news was also hovering about there would be negotiations, so what, but nothing.

[rocket757]

The Italian press announced that the Kremlin would allegedly welcome the idea of ​​creating a buffer zone on the border with Ukraine

. It's pointless to discuss this... There will be no Minsk 3.

[Hiller]

But pasta and a mare would not go into a crack. There is no such country 404 and should not be! The traitors sold faith, language, history, memory into concrete. Forever and ever. So that our children and their descendants live in peace in big Russia. And we will restore all the monuments. And we will put new ones for the fallen.

[engy]

What a fantastic scenario. Ukraine has not yet been defeated. In general, it is not known what kind of attack it will be. Naturally, the outcome of these supposed events cannot even be guessed at.

[Revolver]

Even if it comes to a temporary truce with the buffer zone, then the ideal zone created by nature itself will be the Dnieper. But even such an offer is not profitable for Russia, if only because it will allow the Nazi regime to rearm and try their luck on the battlefield again when they decide that the force is on their side.

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: Nagan

the ideal zone created by nature itself will be the Dnieper

If we talk about "a zone created by nature itself", then ideally the Dniester suits me more.

[DefenderofTruth]

Only the Dniester!
The Dnieper is the river of Russian destiny, the cradle of Rus'.

[evgen1221]

In principle, if the Poles take away the Westerners, then it would be possible to organize a demilitarized country there, but knowing the Poles and the EU, they will do it. In the ideal for the EU and us, this is all of Eastern Europe with Poles, Czechs, Balts, one zone without weapons (only the police). But this puts an end to NATO and the ambitions of America, which means it is unrealizable, well, only if these territories are glazed at all.

[Arifon]

"...that the Kremlin will allegedly welcome..."
The key word of the whole news is "allegedly" ... We disperse

[aszzz888]

The Kremlin does not object to the idea of ​​a buffer zone. This model will be welcomed in Moscow, even if the most inflexible "hawks" want to neutralize all of Ukraine

- consider in the publication Analisi Difesa,

If only the bufzone is ten thousand kilometers wide.

[Oleg Apushkin]

However, the Italians have Wishlist. At least to divide the primordially Russian land.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

To neutralize Ukraine, we must cut it off from the Black Sea.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

The Italians are at odds with geography: the dead zone must be in (in) Western Ukraine.

[Maluck]

A buffer zone is possible only on the border in Poland .... everything steel will be under the control of the Russian Federation.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

Only an Italian who gorged himself on pasta and drank on Chianti could give such an analysis. What kind of eccentric would do that and why???
If we are to build some kind of buffer zone, then along the Dnieper! But she won't change much either. Ukraine will be trained for another eight years, pumped up with weapons and prepared for war with Russia. This option does not suit us. The buffer zone should pass through Eastern Europe: Moldova - Romania - Slovakia - Czech Republic - Poland. And also the neutral status of Sweden and Finland should be preserved. The ideal option is for Norway to be demilitarized. I think everyone understands about Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia... The main question is how to achieve this? Europeans will have to be duped, and this is a very fraught scenario.
The other day Veshnyakov voiced his version of this process, I agree with him, we must disarm our neighbors forever and forbid them to have heavy weapons and military bases of other countries. It goes without saying that all the listed states must withdraw from NATO ...

[DefenderofTruth]

For Russia, any buffer zone on its border is deadly.
If there is a buffer zone on the border of Russia, then it will not consist of Ukraine, but of Poland, Romania and Moldova.

[Wayfarer_2]

Absolutely idiotic idea. In addition, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk belong to the Donetsk region. Russia needs Odessa and Nikolaev, and hence Kherson. Kharkov is a Russian city with a huge population. Why would you want to make it uninhabited? Yes, and Poltava. What kind of nonsense?