Rheinmetall is discussing the supply of the latest Panther KF51 tanks with kamikaze drones to Ukraine

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Rheinmetall is discussing the supply of the latest Panther KF51 tanks with kamikaze drones to Ukraine

Following the announced deliveries to the Kyiv regime of the main combat tanks German-made Leopard 2, in Germany they began to discuss the possibility of promising deliveries to Ukraine of a new generation tank of the Panther KF51 tank. Tank manufacturer Rheinmetall is already in talks with Kyiv, reports Handelsblatt, citing Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger.

According to the representative of the company, if the transfer of new generation tanks is approved by the German government, then in 15-18 months the company can deliver the first vehicles to Ukraine. It is planned to produce tanks at the enterprises of Germany itself or neighboring Hungary.



Recall that experts call the Panther Kettenfahrzeug 51 tank the successor to the Leopard 2 tank. It is made on a similar chassis. Tank weight - 59 tons. The tank is armed with a 130 mm cannon and a 12.7 mm machine gun. In addition, the tank is armed with a HERO 120 kamikaze drone manufactured by UVision. The launcher allows the tank to fire up to four of these drones Simultaneously.

The crew of a new generation tank consists of three people - a tank commander, a driver and a gunner. But there is also extra space in the car. Efficiency of management weapons tank is maximum due to a well-built digital architecture.

Thus, Western military-industrial companies make it clear that they are interested in the Ukrainian market for their products, since Kyiv can pay at the expense of European and American taxpayers. Another question is whether in 15-18 months the Kyiv regime will be "safe and sound"?
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  1. -2
    9 February 2023 18: 00
    Rheinmetall is discussing the supply of the latest Panther KF51 tanks with kamikaze drones to Ukraine
    What to discuss? Give! And then, just like Ze with outstretched hand to the United States: "Come on, cover your bare belly!"
    1. 0
      9 February 2023 18: 33
      Yes, a long time ago Panthers with crosses on their armor did not iron the Donbass land.
      Are these Panthers in the Patriot Park Museum? feel
      1. -4
        9 February 2023 19: 05
        Quote: Bearded
        Yes, a long time ago Panthers with crosses on their armor did not iron the Donbass land.
        Are these Panthers in the Patriot Park Museum? feel

        I think they will appear soon, although most likely all this is chatter about leopards, etc. The main task of the West was to bring Russia to its knees economically, and only then. But alas, we even started to grow a little and everything is fine with food, etc.
        Well, and by military means, it only inflames the Russians .. For a long time they dreamed of taking revenge on the Anglo-Saxons for the collapse of the USSR .. Remember the beginning of the NWO and the red flags of Victory? It's not just all
      2. 0
        14 February 2023 17: 07
        A lot of t90 could be built on this park with a temple
        Someone needs tanks with dorons, and someone needs parks with temples
    2. +8
      9 February 2023 18: 43
      I have a suspicion that there is nothing to give yet. The tank was first introduced only in the summer of 2022. Even the Germans themselves do not have it.
    3. -2
      9 February 2023 18: 46
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      What to discuss? Give! And then, just like Ze with outstretched hand to the United States: "Come on, cover your bare belly!"

      What to give? Two or three of them were built as a concept.
      1. +10
        9 February 2023 18: 55
        Yes, they don't exist at all.
        Here is what the Germans write. I give in translation:
        “At the Eurosatory 2022 arms show, Rheinmetall unexpectedly presented a full-fledged main battle tank. KF51. It is said that it can compete with Putin’s T-14 Armata. The KF51 is the first Western development of a main battle tank since the Cold War. Rheinmetall is not shy about calling it : KF51 bears the traditional Panther name."
        They want to release the first serial tanks by 2035, but in reality, by 2040.
        Today, it's like the Russian non-flying SU-37.
        Just found the rest of this story. Write today:
        “So far there is only a demonstration model of the Panther. Nevertheless, Mr. Papperger promises delivery “in 15-18 months.” The tanks could have been built in Germany or Hungary, but not only.
        “Therefore, we are ready to open a plant for the production of Panthers in Ukraine,” Papperger said, “provided that the war ends and the necessary permits are obtained from the federal government.”
        For me personally, some kind of nonsense, to sweeten Zely's trip around Europe.
      2. -1
        9 February 2023 18: 58
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        What to give? Two or three of them were built as a concept.

        They're just trying to scare Russia .. Isn't it Aron? Israel is also "discussing" the supply of the "Iron Dome" and it even requires a 500 million loan from you .. That's insolent! I hope you calculated everything in Hebrew, what does it threaten you with? wink Do not wake dashing while it is quiet ..
        1. 0
          9 February 2023 19: 09
          Quote from Luka Nord
          Just trying to scare Russia ..

          or maybe they are forcing Putin V.V. quickly finish with the former Ukraine?
          1. +2
            9 February 2023 19: 19
            Quote: gurzuf
            Quote from Luka Nord
            Just trying to scare Russia ..

            or maybe they are forcing Putin V.V. quickly finish with the former Ukraine?

            Also an option, these beggars have already got the whole west freeloaders ..
            The US has already invested 100 lard in a year, and where is the result?
            The fatigue of the West from Ukraine is already growing, but they want to save face .. And the GDP is silent and is increasing its grouping in Belarus and the Donbass.
        2. -4
          9 February 2023 19: 19
          Quote from Luka Nord
          Israel is also "discussing" the supply of the "Iron Dome" and they even require a 500 million loan from you .. Here's an insolent

          And then Massad announced losses on both sides.
          As they say from Kyiv, they greatly underestimated, so that there would be something to clarify)))), smart people say this was a warning.
          1. +6
            9 February 2023 21: 07
            Quote from: topol717
            And then Massad announced losses on both sides.

            Massad didn't announce anything of the sort, as far as I know.
        3. -1
          9 February 2023 21: 47
          Quote from Luka Nord
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          What to give? Two or three of them were built as a concept.

          They're just trying to scare Russia .. Isn't it Aron? Israel is also "discussing" the supply of the "Iron Dome" and it even requires a 500 million loan from you .. That's insolent! I hope you calculated everything in Hebrew, what does it threaten you with? wink Do not wake dashing while it is quiet ..

          We are looking at what will come to Iran. Then we will draw conclusions.
      3. +1
        9 February 2023 19: 00
        Well there are several supply chains and speculation around them:
        - From stock, from trucks to Bradley, from T-72s to Leopards and Abrams. They are more focused on current needs and short-term military enterprises.

        - From the plant medium-term plans. These include the T-72 from Bumar, Excalibur and other enterprises, Slovak Suzannes, Czech Danes2, Irises and Nasamses of the second generation (which are already in full cycle, and not redistributing supplies and coughing up issues with specific customers, for example, both first Irisa-Ts should were to go to Egypt, but Sisi agreed to receive later, perhaps not just like that, but for some discount on the same Meko or submarines).

        - From the plant long-term plans. This includes for example a Boxer155 ordered and which will arrive in 30 months only. Well, why not Panther? The manufacturer will receive the necessary PR and access to world markets not empty-handed, but with firm contracts and more.
  2. +5
    9 February 2023 18: 01
    Ish you, how famously everything is twisted. Appetite while eating not only comes, it grows.
    1. -2
      9 February 2023 18: 59
      Quote: Murmur 55
      Ish you, how famously everything is twisted. Appetite while eating not only comes, it grows.

      Something intuition suggests that the ukroreich will not receive anything, but the money will be written off ..
  3. +20
    9 February 2023 18: 02
    Another question is whether in 15-18 months the Kyiv regime will be "safe and sound"?

    Where is he going to? No one threatens the regime...
    1. +16
      9 February 2023 18: 25
      A year ago, this regime was given much less time - some 3 days, some 3 months. A year has passed - it has not gone anywhere, "safe and sound" hi
  4. -3
    9 February 2023 18: 03
    On Leopards, first disgrace yourself. And there the Abrams will replace you.
  5. +6
    9 February 2023 18: 06
    You can understand Rheinmetall. If it is possible to knock out funding and put into production a new tank, then orders will flow like water.
    1. 0
      11 February 2023 13: 12
      Yeah, that's just orders for Abrams. Uncle Szm is not to miss such a jackpot.
  6. +10
    9 February 2023 18: 07
    A clear hint from Russia, not to chew snot, but to "drastically" and decisively solve the Bandera issue!
    1. +4
      9 February 2023 18: 18
      The Supreme Commander has already stated that there is no goal to destroy Ukraine as a state. Something like this
      1. +3
        9 February 2023 18: 54
        . The Supreme Commander has already stated
        . This is sad .... After all, it has long been clear: either we have them or they have us ... After all, it was not in vain that yesterday we again gathered the Security Council ... Maybe an offer was received from whom? Like: "can we give up right away?"
      2. -3
        9 February 2023 19: 26
        There is an end and there are means.
        The goals were announced long ago - denazification and demilitarization.
        Change of government and taking all of Ukraine under control are not goals. Nevertheless, the farther into the forest, the less likely it is that Ukraine will be preserved, and even more so the Zelensky regime. Therefore, it is possible to change the means of achieving the goals, while maintaining the goals themselves.
  7. ASM
    +3
    9 February 2023 18: 09
    Yes, Rheinmetal will break into a cake to snatch the dough hot. These are hardened capitalists, they don't care about anything but money. They are ready to sell the green snot (the Panther was only presented in 22 and hasn’t gone through anything yet) at the price of a full-fledged car with a premium for prospects. Small cattle, in a word.
    1. -1
      9 February 2023 18: 21
      Western military-industrial companies make it clear that they are interested in the Ukrainian market for their products,

      They are even more interested in Ukraine as a testing ground for full-scale testing of their weapons using Ukrainian "meat".
      1. 0
        10 February 2023 18: 16
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        They are even more interested in Ukraine as a testing ground for full-scale testing of their weapons using Ukrainian "meat".

        Oh, how easy it is for you to say! I will not touch on the issue of technology, just ask. What would you like more? Ride on a new, albeit possibly not run-in, prototype, or have it shoot at you?
  8. +1
    9 February 2023 18: 10
    I'm off topic ... isn't this a concept?
  9. +8
    9 February 2023 18: 12
    "Another question is, will the Kyiv regime be "safe and sound" in 15-18 months?"
    And why not, because we do not touch any of them, but they themselves will not evaporate anywhere.
  10. -7
    9 February 2023 18: 14
    Recall that experts call the Panther Kettenfahrzeug 51 tank the successor to the Leopard 2 tank.

    Panther is the successor to that Panther, a very symbolic promise. Ukraine will not have 15 months, I believe, but the Germans should remember this on occasion.
    1. -5
      9 February 2023 18: 51
      I agree. And remember Scholz's grandfather from the SS.
  11. +4
    9 February 2023 18: 14
    Conclusion: already yesterday it is necessary to prepare for his appearance on the battlefield. And, start "fighting" already, and not conduct a special operation (evil irony).
    Yes, and panthers, as in 1943.
    1. -2
      9 February 2023 18: 36
      Yeah... the analogies are grim. But, remembering history, and optimistic.
      The Swabians only have to cut down the Ferdinand self-propelled guns ... and then there will be the most extensive and most real reconstruction in history.
  12. 0
    9 February 2023 18: 17
    They want to test, at the same time ... bastards are pragmatic, in a word.
  13. +4
    9 February 2023 18: 25
    As an option, NATO can saturate the outskirts with modern technology and missile defense with nuclear weapons, include Hoch.land in NATO, and then simply dictate the terms of the Russian Federation, seeing our complete indecision ...
  14. -7
    9 February 2023 18: 32
    Why with kamikaze drones? No need for extra spending ... Russia itself will provide them with kamikaze drones laughing
    1. -8
      9 February 2023 18: 52
      Oh, another cissota’s shift began ... somehow at the same time, cons began to multiply in different branches laughing
  15. -5
    9 February 2023 18: 35
    Following the announced deliveries of German-made Leopard 2 main battle tanks to the Kyiv regime, Germany began to discuss the possibility of promising deliveries to Ukraine of a new generation Panther KF51 tank.
    Would be a great trophy request good drinks
    1. +6
      9 February 2023 18: 55
      "would be" is the key word in our entire history today, given the lack of real trophies (chimeras, caesars, ...) we resemble emela from a fairy tale ...
  16. -5
    9 February 2023 18: 37
    The Western military-industrial complex is simply burning with the desire to receive advance payments from Kyiv for the production of what there will be no one to transfer to upon the fulfillment of contracts. How simple, European...
    1. +4
      9 February 2023 19: 03
      Actually, it’s not a fact that Kyiv pays. It is quite possible that this is money from a European fund that can be spent on armaments manufactured by European companies, or maybe a separate fund will be created, as with Suzanne2, where, say, the conditional Netherlands, Denmark and Germany will chip in and finance everything ..
  17. 0
    9 February 2023 18: 43
    Thus, Western military-industrial companies make it clear that they are interested in the Ukrainian market for their products.

    More precisely, they want to test the tank in combat conditions and in a real war, and not in a war with African countries. If the model is successful, then the brand will be promoted all over the world, if not, then all German "cats" will be replaced by American "Abrams".
    1. 0
      9 February 2023 19: 34
      Quote: tihonmarine
      If a successful model comes out, then the brand will be promoted all over the world, if not, then ..

      If not, then the failure will be attributed to the curvature of the ukrov. hi
  18. +1
    9 February 2023 18: 51
    I would pay attention to the drone for the tank - a new trend. Blah Hero is a kamikaze and is launched from a container. Our Lancet would also bring to mind ...
  19. -3
    9 February 2023 18: 57
    Another question is whether in 15-18 months the Kyiv regime will be "safe and sound"?

    Russia should do everything possible to make the concept of "Kyiv regime" disappear as soon as possible and for as long as possible (that is, forever).
  20. -4
    9 February 2023 19: 06
    Fantastics. Advertising for idiots, in the hope that the Wehrmacht will buy it.
  21. -1
    9 February 2023 19: 12
    Well, probably in the plans of our hands-va "try them on the battlefield" and "click like nuts"
    1. yho
      0
      9 February 2023 19: 36
      Our "Breakthrough" is the best and has no analogues in the world.
  22. fiv
    -4
    9 February 2023 19: 14
    The Teutonic dogs played to the end. That IG farbenindustry is silent, with Zyklon-B? Ghouls. And the Jews side by side, in the same ranks.
  23. -6
    9 February 2023 19: 18
    Yes, these are small children who do not know war. They think to fight with three tanks. One headless Hitler tried all over Europe, failed. And these "ze" with "sunak" are straight winners. Shame full of European education, only purse brains and nothing personal.
  24. -3
    9 February 2023 19: 27
    And Ukraine will be in place, since there have already been so many lamentations about the collapse of Ukraine and where are these "oracles." belly and organize a meeting with Mazepa, the creator of Mein Kampf and other ghouls, it would be desirable to send the owners of Rheinmetall there in the near future, as well as other owners of firms for the production of combat monsters, it would be time to update the composition of the founders
  25. -1
    9 February 2023 19: 43
    "already in 15-18 months" will the war really be so long?
    1. 0
      9 February 2023 20: 23
      Most likely yes, Katyusha, cheers are ringing from all sides. If, for example, the Tsar suddenly decides to return to the borders on February 24, this will shake the throne. Zele has no choice
    2. +7
      9 February 2023 21: 11
      Quote from lisikat2
      "already in 15-18 months" will the war really be so long?

      Where will she go?
  26. -1
    9 February 2023 20: 54
    Like the latest Polish RT tank made of cardboard in one copy. The Germans at least in metal can do
  27. -1
    9 February 2023 22: 33
    A tank with a lot of novelty may not be in time for this war.
  28. +1
    9 February 2023 23: 15
    Ugly thing. The gloomy German genius does not sleep. But while this is a concept, apparently, the Germans want to test it in real combat operations.
    1. 0
      9 February 2023 23: 48
      Still sleeping, the army was falling apart, the Teutonic spirit had long since evaporated))
      but someone woke him up...
  29. -1
    10 February 2023 00: 15
    Only a madman will supply this tank to Ukraine, since this is not a Leopard at all, but a technique of another generation. A bunch of electronics. And sooner or later they will beat him up and slaughter him.
  30. -1
    10 February 2023 00: 19
    It's cool to give something that doesn't really exist and will it be? And how much will such a tank "pull" in euros?
  31. -1
    10 February 2023 07: 31
    Another question is whether in 15-18 months the Kiev regime will be "safe and sound"? They, with this government and command, will pass through Red Square in less than 15-18 months.
  32. 0
    10 February 2023 08: 06
    Another question is whether in 15-18 months the Kiev regime will be “safe and sound”

    In the EU, they will find someone to put them into tanks by the levers, as long as they shoot to the east, not pig-nosed, so plucked eagles, it doesn’t matter to them.
  33. +1
    10 February 2023 08: 29
    An interesting and dangerous car. Drones can control 40 km. Ours also need to think about such an innovation.
    1. -1
      10 February 2023 10: 11
      On a tank and kamikaze drone? For what? In the tank, there is already little space and a scout is needed.
  34. -1
    10 February 2023 10: 10
    Why do we need a tank with kamikaze drones? The vehicle with drones should go in the second echelon and use kamikaze on the tip of the reconnaissance drone. This vehicle should have a large b / c and it does not need tank armor. And the tank needs a reconnaissance drone for review and reconnaissance.

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