The Ukrainian side published photos of the affected BMPT "Terminator"

Russian troops are actively using the BMPT "Terminator" in the battles near Kremennaya - one of the most intense sectors of the front. Under this settlement, the enemy created a bridgehead, from which for months he tried to break through the defenses of the RF Armed Forces.

"Terminators" are used here in forest areas to knock out DRGs, attacking and defending enemy battle formations with dense rapid-fire fire. BMPTs operate in conjunction with tanks, providing mutual cover.

BMPTs, working together with tanks, eliminate the main drawback of MBT today - a low rate of fire. A flurry of fire and fragments does not allow the enemy to stick his head out, interferes with his maneuvering and prevents him from firing

- the press of Algeria, whose troops are armed with BMPT-72, says in the press observing the conflict.

The photographs published by the Ukrainian side show an MBT with minesweeps and a damaged BMPT. If we discard the possibility of fabrication, which the Kiev regime often resorts to, then we can assume that the footage was taken from an intelligence drone or drone-kamikaze. At the same time, it is not clear what striking means the enemy used. The nature of the damage is also unknown. Ukrainian resources only talk about the destruction of the car in the forests near Kremennaya.

Comments

[karitati]

Off.: https://kuruc.info/r/4/255015/

[Li17]

And why watch the Hungarian resource? In principle, it is clear that the Ukrainian policy is not very good for the Hungarians, but what about the "death" of our equipment?

[Murmur 55]

And what did someone say that the BMPT is an invulnerable machine, which, by no means and no one, can ever be knocked out ???

[UVB]

There are no invulnerable machines. And not the fact that the "Terminator" was destroyed. I watched the video in Telegram of the moment of the defeat, it is clear that there was a detonation of the Ataka missile, the BMPT itself did not receive any visible damage.

[Shurik70]

Quote: Murmur 55

And what did someone say that the BMPT is an invulnerable machine, which, by no means and no one, can ever be knocked out ???

I have never seen such a statement anywhere.
This is a great battlefield machine.
But not "invulnerable". There are none.
Moreover, compared to the tank, it is more vulnerable.
What the tank destroys, the Terminator will destroy.
This is exactly the support vehicle - the second line of the battlefield.

[cipher]

Quote: Shurik70

Quote: Murmur 55

And what did someone say that the BMPT is an invulnerable machine, which, by no means and no one, can ever be knocked out ???

I have never seen such a statement anywhere.
This is a great battlefield machine.
But not "invulnerable". There are none.
Moreover, compared to the tank, it is more vulnerable.
What the tank destroys, the Terminator will destroy.
This is exactly the support vehicle - the second line of the battlefield.

Well, they were just presenting the Terminator as more resistant to defeat than MBT, because. there is no inhabited tower and a more advanced fire control and protection system. What happened here? Unclear

[Argon]

Judging by the photo, it looks like a mine. The road, in the first photo there is a fire in the caterpillar area.

[abrakadabre]

Judging by the photo, it looks like a mine.

The video clearly shows that this is an ATGM or a grenade launcher that flew in front-left of the car.

[alexmach]

Her general designer?
Well, not that it would be invulnerable - superior to tanks.

[Blackgrifon]

No, of course, but for almost a year of fighting, this is the FIRST loss of a vehicle of this class. Despite the fact that they were actively used. And this allows us to draw positive conclusions about the good level of crew training and the high level of protection of the armored vehicle. The tales of the inhabitants of 404 and the retrogrades who grunted them about the "lack of armor" / "low security" are not taken into account.

[bobba94]

We do not take into account the tales of "lack of armor" and "low security" .... We take into account the fact that now 9 Terminator BMPTs remain in service with the RF Armed Forces (there were ten BMPTs). Are these positive findings?

[real diamond]

Where did the firewood about 10 cars come from? Another "ten" is consonant with this, if someone really knows and does not hold his tongue where it is supposed to (behind his teeth) :)

[tralflot1832]

The terminator near Kremennaya is used at point-blank range on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they could have arranged an ambush.

[Prisoner]

It would be naive to believe that ours have no losses in armored vehicles. This is basically a war.

[NightmareIvanych]

Well, if they were struck from something flying, then in general, everything is clear. Any, even modern armored vehicles, at the moment, are poorly protected in the upper hemisphere. BMPT, although it can theoretically work on air targets, is not a full-fledged air defense missile system. Alas...
All types and types of troops can and should work in conjunction!

[Materialist]

In work in bundles, they were seen only with the T-80BV, it is not known how many Terminators and on what fronts they are in general, and whether they act as regularly as the T-90M
They are just as obliged to work in bundles (!), As well as cover themselves from the air and artillery

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Nightmare Ivanych

Any, even modern armored vehicles, at the moment, are poorly protected in the upper hemisphere.

BMPT is the most secure, in this regard, equipment. In addition to tank armor, spaced armor from above, she also has remote weapons, which also serve as a kind of shield for the crew from ATGMs that hit from above. Therefore, a small fire on the surface of the car (in the photo presented in the article) does not mean anything. From the battlefield, the BMPT could well have left for the unit under its own power.
That's when there will be photos with ukrovoyaks next to the BMPT, then it will be possible to talk about the destroyed car, but not before.
PS
In Ukraine, the BMPT "Terminator" is fighting with us, and not its simplified version of the BMPT-72, as it is written in the article.
And just for information.
The Terminator has two automatic grenade launchers on its fenders. In the photo, part of the ammunition (tape with grenades, goes along the side of the BMPT)

On the bottom two pictures. one tape (look at the two bulwark bolts)

[Materialist]

There is a video, either a mine or a shell flew into the MTO, the car was already abandoned at that time and, if it does not burn out, most likely, as it moves forward, it will be evacuated

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: Bad_gr

BMPT is the most secure, in this regard, equipment. In addition to tank armor, spaced armor from above, she also has remote weapons, which also serve as a kind of shield for the crew from ATGMs that hit from above.

+ Ammunition for 2A42 is not the most explosive + Excellent visibility. In general, the BMPT, of course, is not an ideal car, but it is definitely very good.

BMPT-72, unfortunately, we did not go into the series.
As well as the Algerian version of the conversion to the BMPT of the old man T-62. But in vain.

In general, the BMPT is clearly a more effective fire support vehicle than the BMP. And its rate of fire really crushes the enemy.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Blackgrifon

BMPT-72, unfortunately, we did not go into the series.

Compared to the Terminator, the BMPT-72's only plus is its price (much cheaper). Their combat module is the same, and in all other respects the BMPT-72 will lose outright to the "terminator".

[Blackgrifon]

You are right, but in addition to the price, there are also pluses: fewer changes in the design of the chassis, the chassis itself already exists - this is the T-72A, the crew is smaller (and this is both a plus and a minus). As a result, it is easier to saturate. Another thing is that the machine is devoid of AG (but it can be installed on the module, there would be a desire).

[SincerityX]

AG is a weapon of infantry and light vehicles, it has a small distance, but it hits from above, for clearing the trenches it is the very thing. It is not very necessary for heavy armor, because the main caliber with fragments will clean the trenches no less effectively. Probably in the second version because it was removed.

[Blackgrifon]

I don't fully agree. It is not in the second version because the crew is reduced to 3 people (on the main one - 5 and 2 crew members "rule" 2 AGs) and did not bother with the modification of the module. Still, there will not be an extra AG for this vehicle - its main goal is to press and crush the infantry.

[SincerityX]

Well, no, the machine gun presses the infantry, and the AGS destroys the infantry in shelters) which is straight through the windows, which is a canopy in the trench, IMHO) In addition, the AGS well causes panic when everything around explodes, the desire to fight is somehow greatly reduced)

[cipher]

And also two extra crew members)))

[SincerityX]

And also 2 extra crew members, yes) Although sometimes they are needed

[Grits]

Quote: Blackgrifon

BMPT-72, unfortunately, we did not go into the series.

Why "Unfortunately? And it’s good that it didn’t go (unlike the “classic” BPMT, which has every chance of becoming serial), because it does not have grenade launchers and, therefore, the firepower is inferior to the classic “Terminator”.

[Blackgrifon]

IMHO, due to the price and simplicity of the design, and the reduction in the crew (this is both a plus and a minus). And the AG could be attached to the module.

[SincerityX]

How much will be on the bk module?) 1 shell?) Laughing?))) BMPT bk ags in the shelves above the goose)

[Mikhail Maslov]

There is nothing surprising in this. Unless, of course, this is a fake from banderlogs. "Terminator" is a combat unit and, like any equipment, can be hit or destroyed, with artillery, UAV, what's the difference. And that's why there is at least a "visor" for protection from blows from the top, question.

[Murmur 55]

Mikhail Maslov , on the visors they already wrote problematic ones for the operation of equipment. So they took off the BMPT and did not install it.

[Mavrikiy]

Ukrainian resources only talk about the destruction of the car in the forests near Kremennaya.

If so, then you need to get it in for repair. It might be possible to download.

[gromit]

Well, hit and hit. The only thing that is interesting is whether the crew is intact. Let's make new technology.

[Ttshnik]

This is a robot. This machine has a remote control.

[Ovsigovets]

well, that's all))))))) children were called bayraktars and javelins))) Now you can have a holy day of hitting the "terminator"))))

[Nexcom]

Uh-huh, tse-possible day of the damned-Moskal vibukh of the Terminator's zbroi .... Glory to the Hiroys - they finally came up, lads-rubbers .....

[Grits]

Quote: Ovsigovets

well, that's all))))))) children were called bayraktars and javelins

Leopard and F-16 names coming soon

[Pavel57]

The question is survivability on the battlefield. Classic infantry fighting vehicles definitely live less in such battles.

[Osipov9391]

Here's how. And there are no modern Western tanks in Ukraine. And how they will show themselves, where they will be used, how they will be used is unknown.
And many here already write that these tanks are meaningless and stupid.
But it is not known how it will be.

[Al manah]

Well, here (and not only) in general, the spirit of optimism ̶sh̶a̶p̶k̶o̶z̶a̶k̶i̶d̶a̶t̶e̶l̶b̶s̶t̶v̶a̶ of optimism lives, everything looks easy and simple from the sofas.

[Volunteer Marek]

The main thing is that the crew is not injured! We will restore the iron or build a new one. Feel sorry for people first!

[Demon_blood]

a video has already been posted of how this BMPT was destroyed from artillery, the shells lay nearby and at some point the ammunition detonated. Also, today a video was released from 31 wrecked tanks and armored vehicles near Ugledar, but this is a separate issue.

[tlauicol]

Gone? Or set on fire? What about the crew?

[donavi49]

Apparently, the car was abandoned at the time of filming. The left caterpillar is unwound = handed over back before the loss of speed. Well, then they usually go out on foot.

[tlauicol]

I wonder what her? The video looks like a direct hit, not shrapnel.
There is another photo with another car, there is the right caterpillar and rollers. Mine

[coinsam]

The wrecked car should be pulled out and sent for restoration. It's not very clear how critical the damage is.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Don't rejoice, dudes. The damaged one will be replaced by a new one. So, like any normal terminator, he is still a bi-back!

[Grits]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

Don't rejoice, dudes. The damaged one will be replaced by a new one.

But here there is no certainty - it is not mass-produced. And it is not known whether something similar is being done at Uralvagonzavod now?

[cipher]

They went into the series two years ago .... for sure))))

[phrases]

War is not cinema and technology is not immortal, not to mention people. On both sides is a cloud of crumpled iron.

[Shamil88]

The loss of the terminator is a drop in the ocean, judging by our "successful" offensive near Vugledar, so much equipment has been lost, who is in command there? It's scary to go to telegram. What our tanks noticed without mine trawls at all, they are undermined by mines in columns.

[donavi49]

There were a couple of minesweepers there. But everyone got mixed up, as a result, ordinary tanks were blown up in a line.

[tlauicol]

Drive thirty tanks into the mines! This.. no words

[Synoid]

They say the Bandera people were covered, Donavi beguiled with joy - he laid out his brothers in the damp earth.

[opuonmed]

Can you give me a link to the video???????????????

[Synoid]

And what kind of photo taken out of context, the next Bandera formations sent to hell?
This little Banderist spreads this semi-finished product everywhere.

[aszzz888]

donavi49
Yesterday, 17: 51
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+3
There were a couple of minesweepers there. But everyone got mixed up, as a result, ordinary tanks were blown up in a line.

and besides "mustache is gone"link, weak? I'm watching an amateur)) you are here to sow everything OUR broken, oh amateur!)) I'll keep it straight.

[Prjanik]

Under Ugledar, there are simply overdone mines, and dill equipment is also undermined there on their own mines

[Archivist Vasya]

Yes, there are a lot of mines, so ours only go along the road, shot down by a column, where they were also destroyed by high-precision artillery (((there are losses, but there is no result.

[Grits]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

Yes, there are a lot of mines, so ours only go along the road, shot down by a column, where they were also destroyed by high-precision artillery

It turns out that the Ukrainians, unlike us, know how to use mines. If ours knew how to lay mines, then everything around Izyum and Balakleya would be mined. But, alas, there were no mines, or minelayers, or brains. But at the parade all sorts of "Agriculture" and others pass so beautifully ...

[Prjanik]

It seems that it’s nothing special, the caterpillar took off its shoes on the mine, the Khikhls tried to finish it off with escaliburs, the last time they still got into the additional fuel tank, but the flame quickly left. The car was burned, but most likely they will fix it if they pull it out

[Viktor Sergeev]

Terminator is not immortal. There is no invincible technique.

[opuonmed]

nudk west weapon gives a clear case it will shoot!

[Dedok]

How many things are written and filmed, articles of a strange orientation are posted, BUT, we don’t see the work of the ORVB, on our part, but the fields are said to be filled with lined / damaged equipment
moreover, an acquaintance - he left as a volunteer, in civilian life - managed a repair zone of 150 people, and was accepted as a machine gunner ... according to the VUS he received at the age of 18
this is how MO system works

[75 Sergey]

That's the same thing, we would have to pull out the equipment and repair it.
Although the military has its own specifics and features, you need to delve into it, and this is the time.

[lukash66]

Where should he be assigned? Directly to the regiment? Remzon with a "company" of hard workers, it's still a little different. But anyway, respect him.

[Dedok]

Quote from: lukash66

Where should he be assigned? Directly to the regiment?

Do you know what ORVB is? - and the tasks that should be solved in the course of the database?
a workshop for 150 people is almost half a hectare of warm space with machine tools and equipment, where several dozen pieces of equipment are serviced and repaired per day ...
or you, from the couch, the main thing is to participate?

[75 Sergey]

The installation was damaged, the chassis with the crew should have survived

[Rage66]

In war, equipment is knocked out. This is how war works

[_simply]

BMPT proved to be worthy at the BV theater ... She has a good reserve for modifications. It can be made, say, completely uninhabited.

[Archivist Vasya]

What do you mean it's not clear how they knocked out? It was John Connor! Who else could destroy the Terminator...
In general, it’s good that the Terminators are at least actively used, unlike Armat.

[storm]

Firstly, it is necessary to abandon five-seat BMPTs and return to more SIMPLE and budgetary BMPT-72s, the effectiveness of two AGS with a limited firing sector mounted on fenders is practically zero, and two additional 200s with the defeat of BMPTs are completely worthless.
Secondly, the front and sides of the combat module must be covered with an armored shield that protects against 30mm shells.
Thirdly, one AGS should be placed above and behind the combat module and used as a light mortar, which is necessary when conducting combat operations in urban areas or mountainous areas ....

[TermNachTer]

And who said that the car was destroyed? The video shows the hit and everything. It is not clear what damage the BMPT received and how much repair is possible (expedient).

[Konnick]

It is somehow strange that armored vehicles are used ... very dispersed. There is safety in numbers. even sectors of fire cannot be assigned ...