Prigozhin announced the termination of the recruitment of prisoners in PMC "Wagner"

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Prigozhin announced the termination of the recruitment of prisoners in PMC "Wagner"

The recruitment of employees to the Russian PMC "Wagner" from correctional institutions is no longer conducted. This was announced by the curator of a private military company Evgeny Prigozhin.

The official Telegram channel of the press service of PMCs speaks of a complete cessation of recruitment to Wagner from prisoners in Russian penal colonies. Prigozhin also assured that all obligations to the already existing Wagner employees recruited in correctional institutions are being fulfilled in full.



It is reported that recruitment to PMC "Wagner" from among persons serving sentences in penitentiary institutions has not been conducted for more than a month.

Earlier, Yevgeny Prigozhin announced the completion of a six-month contract by the first group of more than twenty former prisoners who took part in the Russian special operation in Ukraine. They all received pardons. The curator of PMC "Wagner" also added that among the pardoned a large number of those who ended up behind bars by accident or due to weakness of character. He also noted that after the end of participation in the armed conflict in Ukraine, Wagner will continue its activities on the African continent.

The head of the Kremlin press service Dmitry Peskov, in turn, said that the pardon of former prisoners who took part in the special operation in Ukraine does not contradict existing Russian laws. Peskov also stressed that decrees of this kind can be drawn up and signed behind closed doors, but all the procedures they regulate do not go beyond the legal framework.
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  1. -8
    9 February 2023 12: 53
    And what's the problem with recruiting prisoners if people use the chance to atone? so-called. "public" pressed?
    1. +3
      9 February 2023 12: 59
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      And what's the problem with recruiting prisoners if people use the chance to atone? so-called. "public" pressed?

      There are too many negative incidents, and no one wants to renew the contract, and this is money lost on training.
      1. +2
        9 February 2023 13: 02
        no one wants to give birth to a contract,

        Just nobody?
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      2. +15
        9 February 2023 13: 08
        There are too many negative incidents, and no one wants to renew the contract, and this is money lost on training.

        And it seems to me that no one was going to renew the contract. They just stupidly calculated: half a year is not 10 years, for which you can also die in a jail. And so - if he survived - both the money, and the "crust of a member of the SVO", which can be trumped up, and the "acquired skills" in various criminal brigades will be highly valued.
        1. +18
          9 February 2023 13: 15
          which you can trump, and the "acquired skills" in various criminal brigades will be highly valued
          For half a year in the war, you still need to survive, they don’t send them there as cooks and you won’t sit out in the trenches
          1. +4
            9 February 2023 14: 36
            Quote: IvanIvanov
            For half a year in the war, you still need to survive,

            In the Second World War, 1 month in the active army went for 3 years of service. And in anti-tank artillery and assault units, 1 month went for 6.
            Six months in assault units is a lot, especially if you are not lucky with the commanders.
        2. +7
          9 February 2023 13: 39
          Quote: vet
          They just stupidly calculated: half a year is not 10 years

          The contract was also signed by those who had only 2 months left ...
          And not everyone who wanted to sign up was taken.
          In one of the colonies out of 700, who wanted to, they took a little more than 200.
          In addition, the flow of volunteers in the Orchestra is quite serious.
      3. +4
        9 February 2023 14: 42
        and no one wants to renew the contract, and this is money lost on training

        This is not lost money in any way - half a year in the "assault infantry" in urban battles is not at all a little.
    2. -4
      9 February 2023 13: 01
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      And what's the problem with recruiting prisoners if people use the chance to atone? so-called. "public" pressed?

      The liberal public pressed, no doubt.
      1. -10
        9 February 2023 13: 23
        The "liberal public" hated by you is well aware that in Russia since the Second World War there have been no institutions for post-war rehabilitation and socialization of war veterans, it is because of this that most veterans of Avgan, 1-2 Cheka went into crime, not finding themselves in civilian life.
        There, not only are criminals brainwashed by the "Zone" fighting, but executions are also considered the norm there (Do you need proofs? Prigogine has already provided them hundreds of times for the general public) Those who have gone mad from cruelty, gone after prison + war, are extremely dangerous for society : they know how to fight, kill, and no one is engaged in their rehabilitation (At the moment, statistics on the rehabilitation of veterans do not exist as such, because this work is stupidly NOT). You can’t delay such a simple outfit of the teaching staff, in the event of black blood they won’t turn around ..... So draw conclusions: Comrades LIBERALS are not always right politically, but they know a lot about intra-social problems and their solutions, and their proposals cannot be ignored.

        PS: Minus as much as you want, But the denial of problems has led Russia to Tragedies many times.
        1. +16
          9 February 2023 13: 46
          On one of the TV channels that covers criminal news, they say that prisoners who wanted to go to the front - left, those who are cold - do not want to. So the set is complete. Sounds logical. I do not think that the liberals have tried.
          1. +4
            9 February 2023 14: 48
            who wanted to go to the front - left, those who are cold - do not want

            The most realistic explanation in my opinion. The public doesn't decide anything at all. And in order to start doing it and in order to stop it, there must be simple rational reasons.
        2. +8
          9 February 2023 13: 46
          Only the problem should not be sucked out of the finger - have you at least estimated how many people passed through Afghanistan in 10 years, and how many came out with the amnesty from Wagner?
          1. -3
            9 February 2023 13: 56
            And what is the use of Afghan veterans. They are all 50+ at least.?
        3. -1
          9 February 2023 14: 07
          You just reminded me with your pathos of O. Bender's speech about children.
          What have you put on here? Sound when the liberal public raised the problem of socialization and rehabilitation of anyone in general?
          The country has socialization structures for different categories of citizens, but they are not always effective, but it is understandable to cover hundreds of thousands of people who went through the war and to identify people in whom this stress often included irreversible changes in the psyche is impossible, especially if the person himself believes that he is normal . All belligerent countries went through this to one degree or another.
          So do not pull the owl on the globe.
      2. -11
        9 February 2023 13: 26
        The liberal public pressed, no doubt.
        It looks like they just decided to reduce their activity.
        From the very beginning of the NWO PMC Wagner was not very much noticed in the media space. But as soon as the Russian Armed Forces reduced their activity, the PMC increased its personnel at the expense of prisoners (who had their own motive) and noticeably increased their activity (maybe there was additional material stimulation), plus in the media everyone was talking exclusively about PMC Wagner, about their effectiveness (which deservedly !!!).

        I repeat, the activity of PMCs was especially noticeable against the background of the low activity of the Russian Armed Forces.

        Now the situation has begun to change, the activity of the Russian Armed Forces is slowly but surely increasing, perhaps this circumstance was the reason for the decrease in the activity of PMC Wagner, and then the need for an additional recruitment of prisoners disappeared.
        1. +4
          9 February 2023 13: 30
          It looks like they just decided to reduce their activity.

          What is the purpose of reducing activity? Successes and so not strategic.
          1. 0
            9 February 2023 14: 09
            What is the purpose of reducing activity?
            In the beginning, you need to find the answer to the "goal" of increasing activity.
            The company, although a military one, is still so PRIVATE, the Russian Ministry of Defense does not finance it.
            Let's say a company has a budget per horsepower. out of 10 people, let's say, 000 people are needed to break through the enemy's defenses. And that's double the budget. Someone increased this budget (at their own expense) and PMC Wagner was able to increase hp. by recruiting prisoners.
            Thanks to these efforts (including financial ones), it was possible (for example, to take Soledar), and for further success it is necessary to further increase the budget of PMCs, and we know nothing about the financial capabilities of this sponsor.
            And if funding returned to its previous level, then the ability to gain more hp. No.
            What is the purpose of reducing activity?
            Reduce costs ... although another is not excluded.
            1. +3
              9 February 2023 14: 18
              PMC is always financed by the Moscow Region, it also supplies equipment and ammunition
              1. 0
                9 February 2023 15: 05
                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                PMCs are always funded by the Moscow Region

                Shh. We don't have them
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          1. 0
            9 February 2023 14: 34
            As for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - they stepped on Ugledar perfectly, for the 5th day carts and tweeters are inundated with materials from the epic attack on Ugledar
            Well, "carts" and especially "tweeters" are inundated with materials? On Twitter, they can take Moscow more than once. And what?
            What do you see in these pictures? Well, tanks, a track from the tracks, so what?
            ---
            The reporter reports on the battles in the Ugledar area, you can watch the video https://topcor.ru/31944-popytka-kontrataki-vsu-pod-ugledarom-udirajuschie-bmp-protivnika-podorvalis-na-minah.html?ysclid=ldx0pp00jh933562567

            If you're too lazy to watch
            The Ukrainian military command is forced to transfer reinforcements to the Ugledar direction from other sectors. Because of this, Russian troops managed to push through the defense line of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in many places.

            In particular, in the Artemovsk region, four out of five roads were cut off, along which the Armed Forces of Ukraine could supply their garrison in the city. And in the Kremennaya area, the Russian military were able to occupy several strongholds of the Ukrainian army.
            1. +1
              9 February 2023 14: 54
              What do you see in these pictures? Well, tanks, a track from the tracks, so what?

              The second and third - burning and lined armored vehicles.
              1. +2
                9 February 2023 17: 58
                The second and third - burning and lined armored vehicles.
                Whose, by the way. Can you identify her?
                ---
                And of course, this is not lightning, but war. And in war there are also lined equipment (unfortunately, ours too).
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              1. +1
                9 February 2023 19: 01
                Apparently there were 3 areas of attack. And at least from two - a lot of material is poured.
                The fact that they pour a lot of material - I believe. That's just the quality of the pictures is such that there is little to make out there. Well, on the first one, yes, the caterpillar is damaged (whose tank is not clear), on the rest it is extremely difficult to make out anything.
                There are such specialists who managed to see something in the "black square". I've always envied them.
                As for the pictures of wrecked tanks, the number of wrecked ukrov vehicles is only over the past 2 months, and data from Western military experts.

                Estimates by Western military experts (RMOD, MilitaryLand, SouthFront, VT) on the loss of equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from December 1, 2022 to January 25, 2023:

                ☑️Air defense - 11 (8 S-300 and 3 BUK-M1);

                ☑️counter-battery radars - 59;

                ☑️Artillery - 252 (including 38 M777❗️, 3 R-2000 and 6 CAESAR, 11 KRAB);

                ☑️MLRS - 87 (including 11 HIMARS❗️);

                ☑️Tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and other armored vehicles — 731❗️

                Read more

                Once again, in the last 2 months.

                They are much more informative than those photos that are "poured".
                By the way, "Tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and other armored vehicles - 731" how many pictures you can pour, but from different angles and distances.
                1. 0
                  9 February 2023 19: 19
                  Well, on the first, yes, the caterpillar is damaged (whose tank is not clear)

                  T-72B3 early model of modernization? Whose is he really?
                  On the last two, judging by the smooth "plate" of the T-90 turret.
                2. 0
                  10 February 2023 01: 56
                  You, excuse me, write about "Western military experts (RMOD, MilitaryLand, SouthFront, VT)", and you have a link to .ru, in which these claims of losses are also not confirmed by anything.
                  1. 0
                    10 February 2023 18: 08
                    If you are overcome by doubts, then you can see the material here on VO "The Turkish publication, with reference to the Mossad, published estimates of the losses of the parties to the conflict in Ukraine."
                    If you're lazy, then here's a snippet
                    Ukraine lost 302 aircraft, 212 helicopters, 2750 UAVs, 6320 tanks and other armored vehicles, 7360 artillery systems, 497 air defense systems, 234 thousand wounded, 157 thousand dead and 17320 prisoners.
                    The numbers are generally the same as above.
        3. +1
          9 February 2023 14: 36
          And you do not consider such an option that the budget of PMCs began to dry out?
          1. 0
            9 February 2023 19: 05
            Most likely it is. Whether to dry out or simply decided to limit.
    3. -1
      9 February 2023 13: 11
      And what's the problem with recruiting prisoners if people use the chance to atone?

      In laws. He must atone for guilt as the court appointed - behind bars.
      Prigogine is also from "imprisoned by accident or due to weakness of character"?
      With such a biography, it is possible to climb through - only in Yeltsin-Putin's Russia.
      1. +2
        9 February 2023 13: 37
        Quote: dauria
        Is Prigozhin also one of the "those who ended up behind bars by accident or due to weakness of character"?
        With such a biography, it is possible to climb through - only in Yeltsin-Putin's Russia.

        Stalin, Rokossovsky, Korolev, Tupolev - all, one way or another, spent some time in prisons ...
        1. 0
          9 February 2023 14: 43
          Quote: Lesovik
          Stalin, Rokossovsky, Korolev, Tupolev - all, one way or another, spent some time in prisons ..

          Duc, and Lenin from the prisoners.
          I don’t remember if he received an amnesty or was taken to the civil service without it ...
          1. +1
            10 February 2023 07: 29
            Do not confuse political prisoners and pure crime. These are different things.
      2. +5
        9 February 2023 14: 20
        Quote: dauria
        With such a biography, it is possible to climb through - only in Yeltsin-Putin's Russia.

        And in Putin's environment you will not find a single decent person, they only select them to suit themselves, so that there are no problems.
    4. -3
      9 February 2023 13: 42
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      And what's the problem with recruiting prisoners if people use the chance to atone? so-called. "public" pressed?

      You know, it's always amused that people who quote the phrase "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" usually never know what the phrase was about. The meaning of the phrase is that if a person is completely goofy, he has one chance to somehow fit into society - proving patriotism.
      Well, in general, at least in terms of the prevalence of this phrase, it is really not clear what such an option is. through patriotism - was, is and will always be in use? So this is not a find of Prigogine. This is the usual situation...
    5. +4
      9 February 2023 14: 00
      More or less experienced ended. And meat is meat.
  2. -3
    9 February 2023 12: 54
    after the end of participation in the armed conflict in Ukraine, Wagner will continue its activities on the African continent.
    somehow .. reassuring or something ... will we finish with the Nazis soon?
    1. Aag
      +1
      9 February 2023 13: 17
      Quote: Dead Day
      after the end of participation in the armed conflict in Ukraine, Wagner will continue its activities on the African continent.
      somehow .. reassuring or something ... will we finish with the Nazis soon?

      I can't find a relationship. request
      First you need to know the true goals, and this is "... not only everyone can..." (or - as the Giant had "thoughts")...
      1. -3
        9 February 2023 13: 53
        Quote: AAG
        I can't find a relationship.

        look further .. but for now, "Wagners", rod forward.
        1. Aag
          0
          9 February 2023 23: 02
          Quote: Dead Day
          Quote: AAG
          I can't find a relationship.

          look further .. but for now, "Wagners", rod forward.

          So be it (and thanks to them! Really!).
          And it doesn't bother you? Well, stupidly - why then MO?
          You can, of course, send me to another address...
          I won’t be offended by you - (I’ve been reading your comments for a long time, I respect it, but lately I often disagree - I graduated from the VUZ in 1988).
          But the question remains...
          Grandpa...
          hi
    2. 0
      9 February 2023 14: 47
      Quote: Dead Day
      somehow .. reassuring or something ... will we finish with the Nazis soon?

      It’s just that Wagner is being used for other tasks, it’s not clear only, in whole or in part ...
      And in Africa, convicts are definitely not needed.
  3. -1
    9 February 2023 12: 55
    Penalty for demobilization. Or will they continue to work under the contract?
    Topic not opened
    1. +11
      9 February 2023 13: 12
      watch less idiotic films ... penal battalions are officer penal divisions, prisoners did not get there. for privates and the like, there were penal companies. and upon expiation of guilt or serving the due date, the military were restored in rank and transferred to personnel units ... and not to demobilization, like Prigozhin
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 14: 55
        Quote: Nikolay310
        upon expiation of guilt or serving the due date, the military were restored in rank and transferred to personnel units.

        Another rehabilitation was after the completion of some important task.
        Father told. At night, before crossing the river, he asked one penalist: "Who were you?"
        The prisoner replied: "If I stay alive, tomorrow I will be a colonel ..."
    2. +5
      9 February 2023 13: 14
      Quote: Vlodek
      Penalty for demobilization. Or will they continue to work under the contract?
      Topic not opened

      What else can be said besides what has already been said?
      The set is finished. Whose contract expired received a pardon. Whoever has a contract still valid will work it out to the end.
      The further participation of the former prisoner in the prison after the expiration of the contract is not regulated in any way, but he is given the right to conclude a new contract.
      It's like that's all. How can I expand the topic here?
  4. -17
    9 February 2023 12: 55
    Rokossovites of our time!
    Everything new is the long-forgotten old. (With)
    1. +8
      9 February 2023 13: 15
      what about Rokossovsky?

      penal companies only at K.K. what were used? and second, those who served or redeemed from penal companies fell into units and served until victory (or death). Prigozhin has a contract for six months and complete freedom in return for many years of dungeons ...

      By the way, those mobilized who are innocent of anything before society are forced to serve the DO (what will this Putin stir up there), and for some reason bandits, murderers and thieves can "free themselves" in six months ...

      although many mobilized also fight on the first lines and die in the same way ...
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 13: 49
        I'd rather wonder about that same group of 20 people. 20 out of how many? If in one place they scored 200 (the group, respectively, is those who came from one place), then 20 out of 200 reflects a rather low survival rate among prisoners due to their place of work.
  5. +18
    9 February 2023 13: 01
    It's a pity. In our city, one former prisoner died near Soledar. Before the SVO, he stole, for which he was imprisoned for the second time. After his death, with the money paid, his wife bought an apartment for herself and her children, and at the school where he studied, they hung his photo as an example that anyone can become a hero.
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    2. +4
      9 February 2023 13: 23
      There is a story on the Internet about murderous convict Sergei Tyunin or Tyutyunin... (in general, something like that!)... He was a realtor... organized (participated in) the murder of a family of 4 people... In 2021 sentenced to 23 years ... in 2022 "recruited" PMC "Wagner", despite the age of 65 years! He distinguished himself in hostilities; for example, in one of the battles, breaking into the positions of the Wehrmacht's coming out, he destroyed 7 coming out of the soldaten, incl. and machine gun calculation! He was shell-shocked ... with the end of the contract he received a pardon ... He left for Turkey ... either on vacation, or "forever"! Prigozhin, as if "justifying himself", stated that this "prisoner" participated in such "hellish" battles, which is amazing how he survived! I also know another story, when another prisoner received a pardon after a "contract six months" ... otherwise he would have been "sitting" for another 12 years!
      1. +6
        9 February 2023 13: 59
        So I'm wondering HOW did this type pass the selection for physical training? Do you believe it yourself? It all reminds me of a "running man"
        1. -3
          9 February 2023 19: 27
          Quote: Single-n
          HOW did this type pass the selection for physical training?

          My dear, what doubts can there be about "physical training" if a person in only one "episode" destroyed 7 (!) enemy soldiers in close combat (possibly in hand-to-hand combat ...)! ? fool
    3. +2
      9 February 2023 14: 06
      Believe me, they were not sweet. Not everyone will go for meat voluntarily. And if redeemed, what to say means redeemed. At the expense of the apartment, the state is also not stupid. If the stolen is stripped to the last. Even the pants will change. Something is visible and earned.
  6. -2
    9 February 2023 13: 03
    Apparently too much resonance + significantly higher losses of "prisoners" compared to regular units did their job. This "case" showed that even with a huge poorly trained living force, in combination with small groups of really good assault infantry, there are a lot of well-fortified positions in the forehead not repulse. In principle, this was understood 100 years ago, therefore, they switched to flank breakthroughs. We have a unique SVO, a vinaigrette of strategies from the First / Second World War + in combination with the use of weapons from mosquitoes to cruise missiles. hi
    1. +1
      9 February 2023 13: 07
      a vinaigrette of strategies from WWXNUMX/WWXNUMX+ combined with the use of weapons from mosquitoes to cruise missiles.

      Maybe this is the war of the 21st century ....
    2. Aag
      -2
      9 February 2023 13: 28
      Quote: spirit
      Apparently too much resonance + significantly higher losses of "prisoners" compared to regular units did their job. This "case" showed that even with a huge poorly trained living force, in combination with small groups of really good assault infantry, there are a lot of well-fortified positions in the forehead not repulse. In principle, this was understood 100 years ago, therefore, they switched to flank breakthroughs. We have a unique SVO, a vinaigrette of strategies from the First / Second World War + in combination with the use of weapons from mosquitoes to cruise missiles. hi

      Something you all swept together, mixed. Sorry, I didn’t catch your thought ... It seems that there were several of them, but you didn’t formulate them intelligibly. hi
      1. -4
        9 February 2023 13: 58
        Quote: AAG
        Sorry, I didn't get your idea.
        it seems that you do not catch everyone ... reconfigure. Or go to a psychotherapist.
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  7. 0
    9 February 2023 13: 05
    Probable exhaustion of raw materials????

    The text of your comment is too short and, in the opinion of the site administration, does not contain useful information.
    1. Aag
      0
      9 February 2023 13: 42
      Quote: Decimalegio
      Probable exhaustion of raw materials????

      The text of your comment is too short and, in the opinion of the site administration, does not contain useful information.

      According to Wikipedia, there are more than half a million prisoners in Russia. It is clear that articles, conditions can differ greatly. Accordingly - and motives. I can not judge objectively (naturally). Nevertheless, are you ready to accept the truth (even bitter): a significant part of the population of the Russian Federation, I don’t know more or less, even if it vehemently supports the NWO (to remove a number of questions, I’ll say that I’m in favor. But!
      Not THAT is what - with the Other it was necessary to start! ... Oligarchs, export, capital / national /, to the camp of the Enemy!)
      1. +3
        9 February 2023 13: 56
        from the Gospel of Luke "Woe also to you, who impose unbearable burdens on people, but do not touch their burdens with your finger!" """
      2. -2
        9 February 2023 13: 59
        Quote: AAG
        If you believe Wikipedia

        everything is clear with you ... another "Borya-Wikipedia" ...))))))))))))
      3. -2
        10 February 2023 02: 14
        in the Russian Federation as of October 413 thousand prisoners, of which 60 thousand women
    2. 0
      10 February 2023 07: 33
      No, a cheaper one has appeared, Prigozhin boasts about a million people who want to fight NATO from the USA. If he gains at least a couple of thousand, there will be PR!
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        -1
        9 February 2023 16: 20
        I could write a lot of overview why and how we are losing the information war, as a result of which such girls appeared about whom you wrote. can determine nationality by mother or father. In fact, it is determined by the Y-chromosome of a man (but this is now banned). And add the Internet through which young women are primarily hit, if you want to destroy a nation, corrupt the women of this nation. China, unlike Russia, understood this a long time ago, the Golden Shield system is responsible for the state control of the Internet in China, and we have silence, as a consequence of such strikes, look at Europe, this process is gradually already underway.
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        2. +2
          9 February 2023 17: 55
          Quote: Two
          A small digression from the topic of Mr. Prigogine, for example, earlier nationality in Russia was determined by the father,and now, without particularly advertising, they passed a law that a child can determine the nationality by mother or father.

          In fact, this provision has been in effect in the USSR since 1975.
          Until 1975, the nationality of the child was determined by the nationality of the father without options.
          Decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR of August 28, 1974 No. 677 “On Approving the Regulations on the Passport System in the USSR” established that if the nationality of the parents is different, when receiving his first passport, the citizen had the right to choose his nationality between the nationality of mother and father.
          A citizen had the right to make this choice only once in his life - when receiving his first passport.
  9. -3
    9 February 2023 13: 08
    Probably only the sick, the lame and the "cosmonauts" remained in the zones. We need specialists who have gone through fire, water and "copper pipes".
  10. -2
    9 February 2023 13: 08
    The mortality rate is very high, they say, the losses are up to 90 percent. So the prisoners do not want to go to certain death.
    1. +3
      9 February 2023 13: 19
      if you listen not only to the self-promoter Prigozhin (and his flight on an airplane speaks precisely of PR), but to some other characters (also not indisputable, but giving at least some alternative opinion), this PMC also has very big problems with "saving people." ..and it doesn’t matter whether they are prisoners or not ... when they are in uniform and storm Soledar, everyone is free there ... and having lost them here, it means there will be no one to storm the new “soledar”, which Ukrainians are in the same Donbas, thanks to 8 -mi summer driving by the nose of someone, set up a lot
    2. +1
      9 February 2023 22: 06
      They say that chickens are milked, and cows lay eggs. (c) Who says addresses, surnames, appearances? Will the fan last?
  11. 0
    9 February 2023 13: 16
    Because the resource of prisoners is exhausted. Prigozhin simply does not need those who want to get out of the colony under the signboard of Wagner. We only need those who will fight. And they seem to have already been chosen.
  12. +1
    9 February 2023 13: 17
    What an option to start life from scratch. You may have to pay, but there are practically no such options.
  13. 0
    9 February 2023 13: 18
    Two majors claim that the MoD has banned the recruitment of prisoners for Wagner. I strongly doubt that the MO could ban it. These are different departments and they cannot prohibit or allow anything to one another. And above them only the President of Russia. And what considerations guided the President, we do not know.
    1. Aag
      0
      9 February 2023 14: 05
      Quote from nellyjuri
      Two majors claim that the MoD has banned the recruitment of prisoners for Wagner. I strongly doubt that the MO could ban it. These are different departments and they cannot prohibit or allow anything to one another. And above them only the President of Russia. And what considerations guided the President, we do not know.

      No offense.
      And is our PMC (like the Russian Federation) already an Office?
      So everyone can?
      1. +3
        9 February 2023 15: 50
        Quote: AAG
        And is our PMC (like the Russian Federation) already an Office?

        I believe we are talking about the Ministry of Defense and the Federal Penitentiary Service.
        1. Aag
          -1
          9 February 2023 19: 26
          Quote: Lesovik
          Quote: AAG
          And is our PMC (like the Russian Federation) already an Office?

          I believe we are talking about the Ministry of Defense and the Federal Penitentiary Service.

          Which side are connected? In addition, that some of the officers reached retirement age in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Penitentiary Service, and other law enforcement agencies? Well, was it like that?
          (Not assessed by MDT/ moral business
          1. Aag
            -1
            9 February 2023 21: 24
            Quote: AAG
            Quote: Lesovik
            Quote: AAG
            And is our PMC (like the Russian Federation) already an Office?

            I believe we are talking about the Ministry of Defense and the Federal Penitentiary Service.

            Which side are connected? In addition, that some of the officers reached retirement age in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Penitentiary Service, and other law enforcement agencies? Well, was it like that?
            (Not assessed by MDT/ moral business

            ... sorry, - he scribbled for a long time, - everything fell off ...
            Sorry, I won't reproduce... hi
            Hello admins!
  14. 0
    9 February 2023 13: 37
    I wonder how this will now affect the fighting?
  15. +2
    9 February 2023 13: 47
    News almost without information.
    We do not know who allowed such recruitment from there with a pardon, who stopped it, how much and why.
    It is not Prigozhin who decides this with all due respect to this Che of ours.
    There are pros and cons, just like anything else.
    Are Zeks good at fighting? Yes, when the system is forced and provides. Are they deserting, running around the Rostov region with a machine gun, or are they trying to escape to the enemy?
    It also happens, but it also happens among contract soldiers and regular conscripts.
    A good leader with almost any personnel can work, but not everyone can do this, even in the ranks of generals.
    I think one of the reasons is that the terrible shortage of personnel at the front has been eliminated, and in places of deprivation of liberty, those who have expressed a desire and are suitable according to internal data have dried up in significant quantities.
  16. 0
    9 February 2023 14: 29
    do not go beyond the legal field.
    ... "but we won't show you the frames laughing it turned out too beautiful - envy "
  17. 0
    9 February 2023 14: 47
    Our leadership always wants to get out of the water clean, so the story of the recruitment of prisoners is not beneficial for our government in terms of image.
  18. +2
    9 February 2023 14: 57
    I wonder how much the participation of convicts in the SVO brought them closer to correction? And another thing, their pardon, can be considered an atonement for guilt?
  19. 0
    9 February 2023 15: 01
    Quote: Vladimir Mikhalev
    At the expense of the apartment, the state is also not stupid. If the stolen is stripped to the last.


    Oh, don't be funny. These can rip off to the last, even if everything is acquired with their hump.
  20. +2
    9 February 2023 15: 07
    And where can I read the laws of the Russian Federation on the following points? I would esteem, for the general development. Poke your finger please, so that these points are more clear. hi
    1. The release and movement of prisoners from places of deprivation of liberty to participate in hostilities.
    2. Cancellation of the term of imprisonment for participation in hostilities.
    And as I understand it, the severity of the crime and the statute of limitations is not at the heart of the sample.
  21. +4
    9 February 2023 16: 01
    How is that
    pardoned a large number of those imprisoned by accident or due to weakness of character

    Weak, but at the front then what???
    1. Aag
      +1
      9 February 2023 21: 57
      Quote: Normann
      How is that
      pardoned a large number of those imprisoned by accident or due to weakness of character

      Weak, but at the front then what???

      Good question. (IMHO).
      And let ... inmates, Fighters, do not be offended. The smart ones will understand, I hope, the essence of the problem ... Let everyone, and his loved ones, have a fate ... exactly.
      And, - I would like to hear at least one voice here from the ZK (sorry, -what is it) ....
      Otherwise, we will hear regularly, including from pseudo-warriors ...
      ... To those who think that I'm just "from the couch": yes, I have never fought. "Stupidly" was on duty ... 17 years.
      NWO? Did not participate (disability, age - sorry, the Moscow Region did not bother to evaluate other opportunities - it could be useful somewhere ...).
      For the convicts...
      I recently found out - there is a distant one who died (so distant that I didn’t know about him before, nevertheless ..): the body was brought to Novosibirsk, before being sent, it lay in a trench for 40 days,
      - I can’t say where, by whom, how I served, - I know (from close relatives): ZK, Volunteer ...
      ... The issue of sending the body to Transbaikalia was decided for a week. (The issue price was announced about 120-130 sput. For those places, the prices are exorbitant ...).
      Later it was resolved: the Novosibirsk RVC (sort of), took over the "transport" costs ...
      Why all of the above?
      And besides, anything can happen - do not promise, ... of course ...
      But, IMHO, something is not right in our State, if this happens (it would seem that there were no prerequisites, as in 1957 ... But how it happened ...) ...
  22. 0
    9 February 2023 21: 51
    Quote: Captain Pushkin
    I don’t remember if he had an amnesty or was taken to the civil service without it ..

    laughing good
  23. +1
    9 February 2023 21: 57
    Now they come up with everything. And the fact that no one will allow PMCs to pump up personnel without measure, who, moreover, needs to be armed, fed and clothed, this time. The second is competition. Maybe there are enough willing guys from among the trained guys, with experience in combat work. "Wagner" is still untwisted strongly. This is not piinDDoosovsky "Mozart" for you.
  24. +2
    9 February 2023 22: 13
    So Prigozhin already seems to have explained everything, or does the respected public read only here? Here is his answer
    Yevgeny Prigozhin explained to an American CNN journalist why they stopped recruiting prisoners into the Wagner Group:

    “Since the release of the Wagner Group advertisement aimed at an American audience, we have received more than 10 million applications from US citizens wishing to join its ranks to fight against NATO.

    We are currently looking at about a million American citizens for employment. Therefore, we temporarily suspended the recruitment of volunteers from Russian prisons, however, if there is a corresponding request from the US State Department, we will recruit from American ones.
  25. +2
    10 February 2023 10: 05
    Quote: I dare_notice_
    Rokossovites of our time!
    Everything new is the long-forgotten old. (With)

    Those who "minus" ... those who do not consider these fighters worthy of respect are the enemy (regardless of the number of "stars on shoulder straps").
    And there are a lot of them.
    Yet.
    1. 0
      10 February 2023 16: 59
      Spit! Against Wagner, such a company was promoted for American rubles, which is even surprising that minus A does not go off scale for half a thousand. And the banderva, and the liberda, and the entire "royal" army is fighting against the "Wagner", even the sofa springs can not stand it. bully
  26. 0
    10 February 2023 18: 18
    Quote: Commissioner_Wolf
    in Russia since the Second World War there are no institutions for post-war rehabilitation and socialization of war veterans

    Now there is progress on this issue. For example, in St. Petersburg, the Center for Psychological and Social Support for War Veterans and Their Families called "Return" began its work. The center has a staff of professional psychologists, a psychotherapist, a clinical psychologist, a social work specialist, and a rehabilitation consultant. Of course, such centers should be opened in all 89 subjects of the Russian Federation. Measures must be comprehensive. Particular attention should be paid to the social sphere. And for this, it is necessary to improve the legislative sphere already now. It is necessary to consider and adopt those bills that are already on the shelves of the State Duma, but are ignored by the deputies and the Government. By the way, it is quite possible to organize rehabilitation centers on the basis of military clinics and hospitals for war veterans. After the Chechen events, some officers turned to the military polyclinic of our city for rehabilitation and treatment after business trips. The doctors provided all the necessary assistance, because. most of them with more than 20 years of experience in military medicine.
  27. -2
    28 February 2023 18: 39
    The state order for the disposal of convicts was successfully completed.

    the government of the Russian Federation did not support the law on PMCs due to security threats to the state
    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5843724

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