The Headquarters of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine showed special mobile groups to fight Russian UAVs

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The Headquarters of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine showed special mobile groups to fight Russian UAVs

As part of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, special groups have been created to counter unmanned aerial vehicles used by the Russian army. This was stated at the headquarters of the ground forces of the Ukrainian armed forces.

The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine showed photos of mobile groups. They show that mobile groups move on off-road vehicles. Machine guns are installed in the bodies of such cars.



When choosing a firing position, the ability to arrive at a given place as quickly as possible is taken into account. The Ukrainian military claims that the main task of such light army air defense groups is to destroy Iranian-made Shahed unmanned aerial vehicles, which are allegedly used by the Russian Armed Forces to attack Ukrainian infrastructure. Also, the Armed Forces of Ukraine assure that mobile groups are capable of destroying not only Dronesbut also cruise missiles.






Apparently unmanned aviation Russian armed forces brings more and more problems to the Kyiv regime. True, based on the effectiveness of Russian attacks against Ukrainian energy and military-industrial infrastructure, we can conclude that such mobile groups are unlikely to be able to provide full-fledged protection of the Ukrainian sky from Russian drones on a global scale, not to mention cruise missiles.

But in general, such mobile groups can really be effective against low-flying targets, including the same drones. However, their effectiveness will be purely local, on specific sectors of the front.
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  1. +3
    9 February 2023 12: 37
    What about carts with machine guns? Rzhunimagu!
    PS: an ideal target for any troops.
    1. +2
      9 February 2023 12: 39
      Quote: Last centurion
      What about carts with machine guns? Rzhunimagu!

      Yuukrain - "Shahidmobil"
    2. +3
      9 February 2023 12: 49
      Why laugh and be ironic about the APU.
      Let them do what they can according to their capabilities, and we will solve our tasks in accordance with our plans, without initiating the enemy in them.
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 12: 52
        And that's right, they are disposed of faster, along with a machine gun. By the way, I propose to hold a competition among UAV operators for the best video on high-speed entry and reset of f-1 from a copter to a cart
      2. +2
        9 February 2023 13: 02
        Public ridicule of the enemy is one of the forms of psychological influence on him and his supporters. And one of the forms, propaganda confrontation ... What is necessary in a war, by definition ...

        And this does not mean a real "underestimation" of the enemy and his initiatives ...
    3. +2
      9 February 2023 13: 01
      Rjunimagu!
      - not funny, or are our BTR-8 *** holding 12,7mm? Even a centenary "Maxim" can create problems if used correctly ...
    4. -3
      9 February 2023 13: 08
      What is the ideal target for any type of troops if such groups are working in the same Kyiv region?
      And they probably do not work badly, some part of the UAV is shot down.
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 13: 48
        Types of troops...

        And, in fact, the advantage is always the one who is "on top". A-priory...

        What is on the hill, before the one who is "at the foot". What's in the air, in front of those who "try to catch" him ...

        Self-made "carts" on wheels are placed in close proximity to the defended objects.

        And the chances, during daylight hours, of being detected at positions or during advancement to them, are for light "quadcopters" of enemy reconnaissance (with "subsequent infliction" on them ...), much more than for "carts" of the enemy, detect and destroy attack UAVs of the Russian Armed Forces.

        Moreover, KR ... Moreover, in the dark ...

        In short, the banal, forced, "mass partisanship" of the armed formations of the Kyiv Nazis, due to the banal lack of even a MINIMUM potential for them to build a MINIMUM effective object air defense ...

        This is also the Russian Armed Forces, I must say thank you for the fact that they do not resort to "areal mining" of areas of potential movement and location of "carts" of Bandera-Nazis ... Maybe "for now" ...

        And then they would "maneuver" ...
  2. +8
    9 February 2023 12: 40
    Mobile air defense units against "Geraniums", everything is fine, yes, beautiful, colorful and tasteful ... but there is one caveat, "Geraniums" fly at night, but there is no searchlight, or are they illuminated with headlights? In fact, an ordinary jihad mobile for the DRG is on display; it has a very distant relation to air defense. It’s one thing to hit a Kamaz DShK from an ambush for 700 meters, it’s another thing to hit a “fly” in the sky with a 12,7 mm bullet at a speed of 130 km / h.
    1. +1
      9 February 2023 13: 10
      They have searchlights and very powerful ones, probably on LEDs.
      I saw such photos with spotlights in the back.
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 13: 17
        Thus, a photo of one car with a machine gun is not enough, you need a second one with a searchlight, at worst, in a car trailer. Then yes, one can judge the air defense calculation .... I don’t comment on the effectiveness, I haven’t tried it, the experience was only a day from the NSVT on a fixed helicopter target at 2 m.
  3. 0
    9 February 2023 12: 41
    ... Machine guns are installed in the bodies of such cars.

    Where are the spotlights? Geraniums mostly fly at night...
    Oh, I shouldn't have said that, because they will install them ...
    1. 0
      9 February 2023 12: 46
      I think it's not about geraniums, but about mavics. :)))) A hanging mavic in the absence of other factors could be brought down, of course. The problem is that the Mavik operator will first gouge the cart. :) ... It's unrealistic to knock down geraniums from this. Well, except to know exactly when, where it flies and along what trajectory. I think those who program the flight will put a couple of extra waypoints so that they don’t fly in a straight line in front of the target and that’s it.
    2. -1
      9 February 2023 13: 17
      There are spotlights there. Looks like LED. And they work at night.
    3. 0
      9 February 2023 13: 17
      There is a separate car with a spotlight, recently there was an article with a photo.
      https://topwar.ru/210030-v-vsu-aktivizirovalis-mobilnye-gruppy-pvo-zanjatye-protivodejstviem-bespilotnikam.html
  4. +1
    9 February 2023 12: 41
    somewhere I have already seen something like this .. a story in a spiral?
  5. +2
    9 February 2023 12: 42
    The latest equipment of 1919 from the warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine!
  6. 0
    9 February 2023 12: 45
    But in general, such mobile groups can really be effective against low-flying targets, including the same drones.

    only in the vicinity of the protected object. The drone has advantages - higher speed + can move in any direction
  7. 0
    9 February 2023 12: 49
    Some crap. Geranium, he still will not catch up. To cover an object, a stationary machine gun is better, because it is stationary. It will even be more accurate stupid.
    1. +1
      9 February 2023 13: 28
      He doesn't need to be chased. They are promptly placed on UAV routes.
  8. +1
    9 February 2023 12: 52
    Too shy to ask...
    What are these cars driving?
    On alcohol, gas or hydrogen?..
    However... what am I talking about? (it's sarcasm)
  9. +1
    9 February 2023 12: 54
    mobile groups are capable of destroying not only drones, but also cruise missiles.
    From a machine gun to a cruise missile? Although their grandfathers "shoot down" Russian missiles with a shotgun, then it is useless to argue with the headquarters of the SV. And there are probably a lot of people who want to get into such groups, because. in cities, far from LBS, sit and wait for the drone to fly by.
    1. -1
      9 February 2023 13: 14
      If a barrage cloud is fired from machine guns along the path of a cruise missile or even an aircraft, then they are usually shot down.
      Another proven method from Vietnam.
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 13: 35
        Have you really tried to create a cloud from a machine gun?
        1. -1
          9 February 2023 13: 42
          A kind of cloud is fired vertically in the path of the target and fired until the target enters there.
          1. +1
            9 February 2023 14: 09
            whether there is some kind of automated system of the "phalanx" type coupled with a radar, then yes. And so. Hitting from a turret with a pair of machine guns "by eye" ...... This is not even funny. The shooter simply does not have time to point the turret at the object.
          2. -1
            9 February 2023 16: 05
            To do this, at least you need to see the target, know its speed and take into account the consumption of ammo based on the rate of fire of the machine gun. Cartridges in a box do not run out only in computer games. Will you hit short or long?
  10. 0
    9 February 2023 13: 22
    Surely these groups have something that they do not show or say. But without which it is very difficult to fight UAVs.
    These are such portable radars powered by a car with a voltage of 12 volts.
    Here is our freshly developed Burdock station of this type.
    But surely the Western allies slipped them something like that for sure.
    And it hides in the back of the car.
  11. +1
    9 February 2023 13: 25
    Mobile air defense system against UAVs of the Gerani type. Get the cheapest possible.
    The specificity of such UAVs with satellite guidance is that they fly at a low altitude of about 200 meters, especially before reaching the target, the speed does not exceed 200 km per hour.
    At night, it is complemented by a powerful LED spotlight on a separate machine.
    There was an article about this recently.
    https://topwar.ru/210030-v-vsu-aktivizirovalis-mobilnye-gruppy-pvo-zanjatye-protivodejstviem-bespilotnikam.html
    Additionally, a special program that allows you to track the trajectory of the UAV, since it is well audible in flight, it allows you to quickly place such mobile groups on the route of the UAV.
    Despite the frivolous appearance, it allows you to save expensive air defense systems and not spend them on simple purposes.
    1. 0
      9 February 2023 13: 45
      Well, if in Russia, with our lag in electronics, portable radars are being made to detect UAVs at a distance of up to 15 km, then what prevents such stations from being made in the West? And transfer them to Ukraine.
      Surely they are also used, perhaps there are stationary ones working on the same network with data transfer there via Mask's satellite channels.
      The radiation power of such radars is scanty, it cannot be detected.
    2. 0
      9 February 2023 14: 13
      Against flying "mopeds" yes. If there, in addition to the cart, there is also a radar station and a searchlight with a single system of guidance and control of anti-aircraft fire, it will do for itself. Although, frankly, against volatile rattlers, ordinary "hearers" can be effective. But against the CD it’s somehow unlikely
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 16: 59
        There is a portable radar on the car, it all depends on its capabilities. As I understand it, our radars cannot see cruise missiles - the speed limit is 200 km / h.
        Only helicopters and UAVs.
        It's just that the radar processor seems to be rather weak for processing fast target data.
  12. 0
    9 February 2023 14: 56
    In this configuration, without a detection radar - a piece of manure.
  13. BAI
    -1
    9 February 2023 15: 57
    But in general, such mobile groups can really be effective against low-flying targets.

    These groups themselves can be an excellent target for a drone.
  14. 0
    12 February 2023 14: 03
    If the satellite throws off routes for carts, if they have thermal imagers for 2 km, then this is already air defense. And it will work on winged ones.
    Well, or someone made a good excuse for relatives: at the front and in the rear at the same time, in the service of weapons and women.

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