Zelensky: I was not aware that it takes 3 years to learn to pilot a Typhoon fighter

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Zelensky: I was not aware that it takes 3 years to learn to pilot a Typhoon fighter

The head of the Kyiv regime, making his tour of European countries and starting with a visit to London, spoke about his ignorance of the training time for military pilots.

When Zelensky again asked to supply NATO fighter jets for the Armed Forces, he was told that there was a big problem here. In Britain, the minimum training period to pilot the Typhoon Eurofighter is 3 years. And, as they put it in London, several of these fighters could be delivered now, but the training of pilots in any case will take years.



Zelensky, commenting on this information, stated literally the following:

I was not aware that the Typhoon pilot training period is three years. But I say, provide an opportunity, and our pilots will be trained in 2,5 years.

After a stay in London, where Zelensky was received by King Charles III, the Ukrainian president sends him to beg in Paris. The arrival of Olaf Scholz is also planned there. Apparently, for the next stage of "coordination of the feed" ...

Earlier, Zelensky's trip to Europe was denied, although the information was leaked by European officials a few days before.
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    1. +9
      8 February 2023 21: 48
      Yeah .. He hoped too early. This is not a donkey to buy
      1. +33
        8 February 2023 21: 51
        This is called - turned on the fool, maybe he did not turn it off.
        1. +36
          8 February 2023 22: 04
          Maybe he didn't turn it off.
          For a visit to Buckingham Palace and a meeting with the King, this guy did not bother to dress in a suit laughing Or at least washed and ironed. At Buckingham Palace, gardeners are better dressed.
          1. +10
            8 February 2023 23: 28
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            meeting with the king

            Don't rush while the aged heir Tutti is not yet king, the coronation is scheduled for May 6, 2023. Before May 6, a lot of things can happen.
            1. +6
              8 February 2023 23: 48
              The current monarch is King Charles III, who ascended the throne on 8 September 2022, upon the death of his mother, Queen Elizabeth II.

              while the aged heir Tutti is not yet king
              Quite a king already.
            2. 0
              9 February 2023 03: 18
              Quote: hrych
              aged Tutti heir

              good
              "King Matt the First" lol...
            3. avg
              +3
              9 February 2023 10: 41
              Quote: hrych
              Before May 6, a lot of things can happen.

              Do you think Zelensky will iron his pants? winked
              1. +2
                9 February 2023 11: 55
                Quote: avg
                Quote: hrych
                Before May 6, a lot of things can happen.

                Do you think Zelensky will iron his pants? winked

                Will wash the sweatshirt.
                It is not for nothing that journalists are wondering - will they bring him to London to his wife or not? They will deliver. Put the blouse in the washing machine, otherwise it will break on the folds.
          2. +1
            9 February 2023 01: 43
            Ah, this is just a fool, and the realization that while 404 is needed by Zele can be FSE.
            1. +8
              9 February 2023 02: 03
              the realization that while 404 is needed
              I am inclined to believe that he really sincerely believes that he, the heroic leader of a state that bravely resists the forces of evil, is considered an honor to receive in all instances and palaces, to pave the way to Europe, NATO and anywhere else. And all critics and haters are agents of the Kremlin. He just really got used to the role.
              It's not even chutzpah, it's faith.
              1. +9
                9 February 2023 03: 23
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                He just really got used to the role.
                It's not even chutzpah, it's faith.

                A psychiatrist I know, a former classmate, told me that when a person gets THAT much into the role, and the role is THAT far from reality, then the role becomes a diagnosis, and the person becomes a patient.
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              2. +9
                9 February 2023 05: 51
                The worst thing is that the inhabitants of the country got used to this role. When communicating with them, I was struck by the obstinacy in their exclusivity. More than that, they SINCERELY considered us not free, illiterate, etc. ! And now they believe that they are destroying us, the world depends on them, everyone owes them ... So this is still a clown somehow modestly, he could have announced the training of his pilots in two months!
                1. +9
                  9 February 2023 06: 52
                  Quote: lithium17
                  The worst thing is that the inhabitants of the country got used to this role. When communicating with them, I was struck by the obstinacy in their exclusivity. More than that, they SINCERELY considered us not free, illiterate, etc. ! And now they believe that they are destroying us, the world depends on them, everyone owes them ...

                  I have a cousin in Dnepropetrovsk like that.
                  I sent a portrait of Bandera to my (and my, respectively, too) cousin in Siberia on social networks on her birthday. She cut him out of contacts.
                  What happened to a normal Ukrainian kid, with whom we grew up together (train tickets were cheap, you could travel halfway through the country for 20 rubles) - I don’t know ... He hasn’t communicated with me for five years now, since the 14th years, all telephone conversations began with the words: "Why did you attack us?"

                  How the war in Ukraine will end - I have no doubts.
                  But I don’t know what to do with the Ukrainians later, how and with what to knock out the Bandera and Rogul Selyukism out of them. Honestly.
                  1. +5
                    9 February 2023 09: 59
                    Be glad he didn't run away! As I noticed from my wife's relatives, one of them settled in Moscow, nothing good! We also have refugees here ..., I begin to understand the Stalinist method, everyone in the camps, and the whole farm in Siberia if there is at least one "dick" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine!
                    1. 0
                      9 February 2023 11: 49
                      Quote: lithium17
                      Be glad he didn't run away!

                      Well, you won’t spoil me with me ... I would quickly remind him of Bulba in the absence of him and my fathers as the elder Taras. I have a "squeaker" full safe. They left their own from their father.
                      The fathers there, in the Land of the Eternal Hunt, I think, do not conflict - together they drink vodka for our Victory in the Army of the Archangel Michael. They had no disagreements in relation to Bandera.
                    2. +4
                      9 February 2023 12: 05
                      We don't need these "banderlogs" in Siberia! We have only, only the old legacy after the Second World War - the "sineshtanniks", "Vlasovites" and "Banderlogs" died - the earth was cleared of them! And in general: Siberia, as it turns out, is not in the middle of nowhere, but in Christ's bosom!
                      Therefore, drop them there on the spot!
              3. 0
                9 February 2023 11: 05
                He is not an idiot, he perfectly understands how much the project of war in Ukraine launched by the West depends on Ukraine's readiness to continue to wage war to the last. He will not be allowed to jump off, it remains only to try to use the West to the fullest. And the second - the transfer by the West of aircraft with pilot training for 3 years - an indicator that it (Ze) will not be written off in 1-2 years.
        2. +4
          8 February 2023 22: 39
          Quote: marchcat
          This is called - turned on the fool, maybe he did not turn it off.

          You don’t need to turn on anything, he is already a clown with gadgets in life.
        3. +11
          8 February 2023 22: 56
          I read between the lines: I am so stupid and narrow-minded that I did not know that combat pilots were taught for several years. Although, even a schoolboy knows this.
        4. +1
          9 February 2023 06: 19
          Quote: marchcat
          This is called - turned on the fool, maybe he did not turn it off.

          Maybe he does not include it, but it is.
      2. +2
        8 February 2023 21: 51
        Yes, he doesn’t have something like a tram - he doesn’t even have money for a donkey! Lives on handouts...
        1. +15
          8 February 2023 22: 04
          Personally, he deliberately has money, but the Selyuks owe the whole world about 50 years ahead
          1. -1
            9 February 2023 12: 35
            Quote: Black
            Personally, he has grandmas intentionally.,

            Yes, yes ... I was talking about him exactly as the president of the country :)) And as a private person, he naturally has a lot of money: from each "million billion aid package" - he receives kickbacks from the American defense industry. It is the citizens of his country who will owe the whole world for another four hundred years ... but he personally has no problems buying bread and butter :))
      3. +16
        8 February 2023 21: 52
        Does he think that he needs to study less on the Mirage or Rafal, that he flew to Paris? Let him take the F-35. Not a plane, but a "fairy tale". lol
        1. -2
          8 February 2023 22: 24
          The Mirage is definitely less. Rafal, yes, a complex aircraft.
          1. +13
            8 February 2023 22: 47
            . I was not aware that the Typhoon pilot training period is three years. But I say, provide an opportunity, and our pilots will be trained in 2,5 years.

            Why the hell do you want to learn then? I fastened my seat belts and that's it, you are a pilot
            1. +3
              9 February 2023 01: 03
              Why the hell do you want to learn then? I fastened my seat belts and that's it, you are a pilot

              The main thing is to fix it well. Wants to fly to live. sad
              1. +8
                9 February 2023 03: 41
                Quote: Former soldier
                The main thing is to fix it well.

                Flight suit for Zelensky?
                1. +1
                  9 February 2023 12: 03
                  Flight suit for Zelensky?

                  Ursula von Derleinen will play the piano about a grasshopper.
                  1. +1
                    9 February 2023 15: 20
                    He was just like a green cucumber. Imagine, imagine he was green.
            2. +2
              9 February 2023 07: 53
              They will teach you how to take off and that's enough laughing
              The text is short, but the idea is not bad
              1. 0
                10 February 2023 11: 42
                He served in the 80s in the Mongolian People's Republic in Choyra at 41 Motor Rifle Division, next to us (the village of Bayantal, then called "thirty"), the flyers stood - an air division. They had a case - two young techies tied a powder accelerator to the "Java", well, they "rolled" along the take-off ... Then they collected lumps along the runway for two days ...
                Zele should be advised to shorten the training period in this way! Effective! Moreover, the type and company of the aircraft manufacturer are not important at all!
      4. -1
        10 February 2023 11: 05
        Indian ZE .... from the Krivoy Rog tribe, white people did not explain that you need to learn how to shoot a gun .....
        He thought that if the white people loved him, that was enough.
    2. +2
      8 February 2023 21: 51
      Seriously? But as? Three months? Take-off landing? How on Po-2 in 1942?
      1. +7
        8 February 2023 22: 00
        Quote: Peter_Koldunov
        Seriously? But as? Three months? Take-off landing? How on Po-2 in 1942?


        Yes to him. If only there was PR.
      2. +6
        8 February 2023 22: 00
        Behind the aircraft and the entire NATO airfield infrastructure must be relocated.
        It will be interesting to see how Bandera will drive planes back to Poland - for example, for repairs. As a result, Ukrainian airfields will be used as a jump airfield. That is, Poland is drawn into the war directly.
        1. +2
          8 February 2023 23: 58
          All that Poland has is the F-16, in the future the F-35.
          British, German and French planes are not there and never were.
          Under Tornado and Eurofighter, only the Germans have infrastructure closer.
      3. -4
        8 February 2023 22: 34
        Take-off landing? How on Po-2 in 1942?


        Do not repeat liberal mantras.
      4. +7
        9 February 2023 01: 07
        Mobilized people can also be prepared for a week, or six months. Both the first and second will most likely be able to shoot towards the enemy, but there is a difference in quality.
        But in the case of human resources, there is at least a bloodthirsty “cannon fodder” tactic, which sooner or later allows you to convert quantity into quality (let’s omit the ethical and political issues of using this tactic for now), but this does not work with aviation.
        Even all of NATO together will not be able to give more aircraft than we have missiles, but a limited number of expensive aircraft with bad pilots is a waste of money (very serious), a weakening of our own military potential (you can’t rivet an aircraft in a couple of days) and reputational losses ( bad pilots will be forgotten, but the burning F-35s will remain in everyone's memory).
    3. +9
      8 February 2023 21: 52
      I was not aware that the Typhoon pilot training period is three years. But I say, provide an opportunity, and our pilots will be trained in 2,5 years.

      Just a country of geeks. Although, in 2,5 years this outskirts will no longer exist, there will be another one.
      1. +13
        8 February 2023 22: 28
        They will train you to take off, and they will land using our air defense.
    4. +9
      8 February 2023 21: 52
      The boys who dug up the Black Sea will be able to take off in 2 months, they will master the takeoff, but they don’t need landing, they will knock down one fig.
    5. +23
      8 February 2023 21: 53
      No, if from clowns, immediately to the presidency, without training and experience, and a country with tens of millions of inhabitants, it seems like leading, then what is there to pilot a combat eplane, a trifle!
      1. +7
        8 February 2023 21: 55
        There it is, was not aware. And what he is generally aware of, even on the piano, somehow not very much.
    6. +4
      8 February 2023 21: 54
      Zelensky was received by King Charles III

      I hope they had a good time - Karl (aka Charles) 3.0 big naughty
      1. +2
        8 February 2023 23: 26
        They probably played the piano two ways.
        1. +1
          9 February 2023 01: 15
          Quote: Sergey Kotomin
          Two ways played on the piano

          According to unverified but accurate data, they already have nothing to play with! tongue
    7. +4
      8 February 2023 21: 54
      It seems that fighters from Europe will be in Ukra much earlier.
      Maybe someone is being retrained at the moment.
      And it is more likely that vacationers or some other rabble will arrive
      1. -2
        8 February 2023 22: 00
        I think SVO is coming to an end. Well, it seems to me that the West has decided. Zelya has done his job, Zelya can be free. 2 lines in history will be written about him.
        1. +1
          9 February 2023 00: 02
          That's how many people have been thinking for a year now.
          But in fact, this “fvse” for Ukraine has been postponed indefinitely, if it takes place at all.
        2. 0
          10 February 2023 01: 55
          I think SVO is coming to an end. Well, it seems to me that the West has decided.

          You are wrong. Everything just flares up. The end will be when mass protests begin in Europe against the deterioration of living standards.
    8. +5
      8 February 2023 21: 55
      What is he aware of? And what does he even know how, except to stand up, how does the director show and recite the text that the screenwriter wrote? I will never understand people who choose an actor to manage themselves.
    9. 0
      8 February 2023 21: 55
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      Yeah .. He hoped too early. This is not a donkey to buy

      But what, was it possible?) Beggars ... shame and disgrace
    10. 0
      8 February 2023 21: 57
      And he thought learning to fly a fighter was like learning a bicycle?
      1. +4
        9 February 2023 03: 44
        if anyone is interested...
        retraining from Tornado to Eurofighter - 4 months at the air base in Laag, in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania. This is official information
        With MiGs and Su, even if twice as long, even if three ... But this is not two years.
        There is time to clean up this gangrene before the advent of aviation, but not much.
        A more detailed article will be here https://t.me/redbiker
    11. +4
      8 February 2023 21: 57
      They will try to hire Western extreme pilots through PMC structures. The problem of Russia, thanks to empty "chicken threats", is that now the pilots are a problem for them, and not the fear of a forceful reaction of the Russian Federation to the supply of weapons.
      1. +2
        8 February 2023 22: 29
        There are just enough pilots in Ukraine. During Soviet times, this was a place where they tried to retire. And do not think that 55-65 year olds are unfit for combat.
        1. +11
          8 February 2023 22: 54
          Je suis à peu prés dans la tranche d'âge que vous dites et je suis conscient que je n'ai plus les réflexes, la vue, le champ de vision, les artères, le cœur... d'il ya 35 ans.
          Et pourtant je ne suis ni fumeur, ni buveur et pas trop gras (82kgs pour 1.84m).
          Mais je suis nettement inférieur à quelqu'un 35 ans plus jeune.
          Pour un pilote militaire le corps peut être durement sollicité, ce n'est pas pour des personnes de 60/65 ans.

          I'm about the age you're talking about, and I realize that I no longer have reflexes, vision, field of vision, arteries, heart... as I did 35 years ago.
          And yet I don't smoke, I don't drink, and I'm not overweight (82 kg by 1,84 m).
          But I am significantly inferior to someone 35 years younger.
          For a military pilot, the body can be very demanding, this is not for people aged 60/65
          1. +8
            8 February 2023 23: 36
            People are different. Someone is dead at 35, and who is quite vigorous at 60. Take an interest in the age of the same test pilots. Moreover, there is no talk of a general draft, and there are a lot of storerooms, there is something to choose from.
            And the time when air combat was energetic piloting is long gone. Now they fight more remotely. When you have to work with your head and knowledge with experience comes first.
            So don't underestimate the threat is very real.
        2. +4
          8 February 2023 22: 55
          55-65 year olds are unable to fly for health reasons. You at least offer them to come on board first. At this age, at a height, the head is spinning, the heart is naughty, and the joints ache. And there will be overload. In the eyes for a second it darkened and amba
          1. +3
            8 February 2023 23: 49
            Did you know that the average age of a test pilot is 53 years old?
            1. Qas
              +6
              9 February 2023 00: 41
              And how many years have passed since the pilot became a test pilot? And why don't you consider the question of genetics? The state of the heart, blood vessels, brain activity? Everything is very individual. A test pilot is very individual, there are only a few such people.
              1. 0
                9 February 2023 11: 07
                Yes, because no one considers the issue of genetics when recruiting testers. And if you look into their flight books, mom don’t worry about diagnoses there. It's just that the tolerances for medicine are different. For a candidate for a flight school, one, and for an experienced pilot, others.
        3. +1
          8 February 2023 23: 36
          We are talking about those who are ready to pilot a typhoon or f 16 right now. They can be up to 50 years old. The question is money and desire. Departed from service. You can recruit. I'm talking about what they will put and find the pilots. And Kurochkin, he will justify himself by the fact that they spent, de, by the nose, but he did not destroy the bridges for humanistic reasons, and the return transit and all kinds of sheep business have nothing to do with it.
          1. +3
            8 February 2023 23: 57
            What is it about. Finding pilots will not be a problem. And even those who are over 50 should not be discounted. At this age, many men who are warriors at heart will choose to die in combat over the prospect of slow aging, only to end up dying in bed helpless.
            Let age pilots not pull a full-fledged combat load, but they can easily take on especially dangerous tasks.
            1. -1
              9 February 2023 00: 08
              especially dangerous tasks can easily be taken on.
              Detachment of old farts-kamikaze under the yellow cloud laughing ? Did they give a stoparik of pervacha, a slice of bacon for a snack, and on the last flight? It won’t rust for potions, but there’s a problem - planes are expensive now - not plywood and not of their own construction, like the Japanese. Yes, and it’s easier to shoot them down at a safe distance now. So hardly.
              1. +5
                9 February 2023 00: 32
                Did the raid of a pair of Mi-24s of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, moreover, with impunity, not convince you? Or UAV flights to Engels?
                And planes can be taken with an exhausted resource, which are still written off.
                Just in case, I explain that the exhausted resource is not wear and tear, as the owners of four-wheeled tins called cars think.
                A resource, this is the time during which an acceptable level of reliability (time to failure) is guaranteed, by the way, in the USSR the resource was 25 years old, and now many machines have been extended up to 50.
                So the hatred in this case is inappropriate.
                1. -1
                  9 February 2023 00: 50
                  Didn't the raid of the Mi-24 pair of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, moreover, unpunished, convince you?
                  Bypassing NATO radars with the help of radio intelligence? This is the same as punching a man in the back of the head and quickly running away. The second time this will not work, so this is not an example at all.
                  And planes can take with a depleted resource
                  And what, the pilot will agree to become a real kamikaze?
                  1. 0
                    9 February 2023 06: 29
                    There is no "unfair war". There are words "in war, all means are good." The fact that the peasant was hit on the back of the head is his own fault, that he did not control the rear hemisphere and was not ready. Every time they change tactics, the losers begin to squeal that they are being fought dishonestly. In the Patriotic War of 1812, the French also complained about Davydov's partisans that this was not an honest war and that it was impossible.
                    The pilot will agree to perform a combat mission and be ready for any outcome, which is why they become military pilots. And there are those who will direct their burning aircraft into the enemy column. I hope there is no need to remind.
                  2. 0
                    9 February 2023 11: 15
                    Bypassing NATO radars with the help of radio intelligence? This is the same as punching a man in the back of the head and quickly running away. The second time this will not work, so this is not an example at all.


                    This happened more than once. So your objection is over.

                    And what, the pilot will agree to become a real kamikaze?


                    Guess, yes it can. The situations are very different.
        4. +5
          9 February 2023 08: 03
          Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
          There are just enough pilots in Ukraine. During Soviet times, this was a place where they tried to retire. And do not think that 55-65 year olds are unfit for combat.

          they went to retire in the USSR until 1993 .. i.e. let a retired military pilot retire at 40 and leave for the Ukrainian SSR .. 30 years have passed, he is 70 (and these are the youth of them) .. Do you want to put him in f16? not funny yourself? and in the post-Soviet era, do pilots in Ukraine think they flew a lot? those. with Soviet pilots, the option disappears for sure ...
          all those who graduated from the USSR schools left before 2010 (the most recent ones), while - they almost did not fly all these years (or do you think there was strong combat training in Ukraine?) And the youngest is about 55 .. is he in f16?
          there are people at 55, health-wise like 35-year-olds military pilots (and not just people), but there are one in a hundred of them, and I think they have been called up for a long time, who wanted to and were partially shot down ..
          Bottom line: there is no one from among the military pensioners they can count on.
          1. 0
            9 February 2023 19: 05
            Let me talk about military pilots, not you. A military pilot, he can retire much earlier, because his length of service is gaining much faster.
            In addition, at the time of 1991, there were a lot of aviation units in Ukraine, plus those withdrawn from Eastern Europe. And if we take into account the fact that they graduated from military schools at the age of 21, then the minimum age is 53 years.
        5. -2
          9 February 2023 16: 11
          Not otherwise, the adventures of Maverick 35 years later looked.
      2. +4
        8 February 2023 22: 46
        The British said that they would start training pilots from Ukraine now. About three years is just a loud headline - three years is for training a pilot from scratch. Retraining is much faster.
        Although, of course, the Eurofighter is more difficult than the F-16.
    12. +5
      8 February 2023 22: 01
      This announcement was for us. On the more serious weapons supplied by the West, their pros with ruin passports are already fighting.
    13. +4
      8 February 2023 22: 02
      Oh, yes, let the British clone fifty copies of the Ghost of Kyiv., that's the whole problem. They succeeded with Dolly the sheep, but here it will be easier, there is not enough wool ..
      1. +1
        8 February 2023 22: 21
        Well, Zelya’s helmet brought the ghost of Kyiv, now they will find a stuck hair and clone it
    14. +3
      8 February 2023 22: 02
      What an optimistic cocaine addict, for 2,5 years the outskirts intended ... wassat
    15. +3
      8 February 2023 22: 04
      A talking monkey was dragged from the colony. Well, of course, sitting on a palm tree, she didn’t know a lot of things. But she knew how to make faces and throw poop.
    16. +3
      8 February 2023 22: 07
      Yes, crap there is complicated - pour and drink! No, this dolbak really had nothing to do with technology at all ?! The more complex the technique, the more unique it is, and definitely requires retraining.
    17. 0
      8 February 2023 22: 09
      geyrop pensioners will sit at the helm, but they pay bucks tongue
    18. +5
      8 February 2023 22: 13
      and how does he know about serious training? Chel spent all the "students" in KVN,;)
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    20. +4
      8 February 2023 22: 24
      In three years, you can prepare a kid after school. But to retrain a ready-made pilot, much less time is required. Everything depends on the level you have, who needs six months, who even a month is enough.
      1. +1
        8 February 2023 22: 59
        In a driving school, they teach for a month and even give a license. Not everyone is good at driving
        1. +4
          9 February 2023 00: 01
          But don’t you know that everyone is accepted to a driving school, but there is a special selection for flight schools?
      2. -3
        8 February 2023 23: 02
        Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
        In three years, you can prepare a kid after school.

        Have you seen the opuses of British scientists? So, these are, in theory, the smartest in Britain. Pilots are dumber. So they are there and three years only for retraining - it will not be enough laughing
        1. -1
          9 February 2023 08: 41
          Little of. The instructions for controlling the aircraft, too, because their scientists wrote. wassat
          Take four-seventh inches to the right wassat
    21. 0
      8 February 2023 22: 25
      Sent to the UK for training, pilots should be in seventh heaven with happiness - three years of training is a real chance to survive in this meat grinder! During this time, the CBO should end, I hope.
      1. -2
        8 February 2023 23: 51
        Quote: Leshak
        three years of study is a real chance to survive in this meat grinder! During this time, the CBO should end, I hope.
        They would have to learn at least a year, and then - you look and carry.
    22. 0
      8 February 2023 22: 26
      It did not seem to be about the supply of Eurofighters. We discussed the supply of F-16s and, presumably, French Mirages.
      The British are talking only about the supply of aircraft in the long term.
    23. +3
      8 February 2023 22: 27
      I was not aware that the Typhoon pilot training period is three years.

      And what did he think - he brought, as usual, to the DAI inspector for tax and rights in his pocket?
      But I say, provide an opportunity, and our pilots will be trained in 2,5 years.

      Yes, what is there to trifle? They'll do it in a couple of months! wassat
      1. -1
        9 February 2023 01: 45
        A friend in Kharkov a couple of years ago got her license like this - her parents agreed, she came on the appointed day, drove a hundred meters between the skittles for order and took her license
    24. +4
      8 February 2023 22: 27
      I wonder how long it will take to retrain a pilot?
      Think much less. And all these "I didn't know" are just lies. Surely the advisers, the MoD provided him with the information he needed. Because, for sure, both the number of aircraft and the time for preparation at meetings were discussed more than once.
      Therefore, from Zelensky’s words, it most likely follows that he was refused and he is trying to put on a good face in a bad game - like, they are ready to give, but this is not the best option, because it takes years to train a pilot and this is not - "they are us sent", and - "we ourselves will think more."
      A common attempt for Ukraine to portray the zrada in the form of a victory.
      1. +1
        8 February 2023 22: 30
        Already said:
        In three years, you can prepare a kid after school. But to retrain a ready-made pilot, much less time is required. Everything depends on the level you have, who needs six months, who even a month is enough.
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          8 February 2023 22: 48
          Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
          Already said:
          In three years, you can prepare a kid after school. But to retrain a ready-made pilot, much less time is required. Everything depends on the level you have, who needs six months, who even a month is enough.

          yes, yes, and they already talked about pensioners, only pensioners were already shot down near Kherson
          1. +1
            9 February 2023 00: 03
            And what, they didn’t shoot down pensioners? And, on both sides.
      2. 0
        8 February 2023 22: 31
        The British are considering the issue of aviation supplies in the long term. Retraining is always much shorter in time, but the Eurofighter is still a much more difficult aircraft for the pilot than the F-16.
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          9 February 2023 06: 36
          How do you assess the difficulty for a professional military pilot with experience in piloting fighters and other high-speed vehicles? The study of the cockpit equipment, the aircraft as a whole, limitations, contingencies and piloting techniques. Cherry on the cake - combat use at the training ground and Alga, into battle. Then everything depends on who is on the plane and good luck!
          1. 0
            9 February 2023 08: 42
            Sometimes relearning is harder than relearning.
            Here it is straight away. Are the instrument scales in English metric or in inches / pounds? 1000 feet and 1000 meters are VERY different heights. And in piloting, especially in combat, they act largely reflexively.
            And there can be many such little things. From the location of the devices, to the procedure. So, of course, retraining will take not 3 years, but several months for sure.
            1. +1
              9 February 2023 10: 12
              Modern aircraft are basically big flying computers. When developing software, the transition from one system of calculation to another is laid. On the screens of the MFP, you can set any arrangement of devices. I think that there will be no problems with retraining, otherwise the planes would not be offered for export. I really hope that after retraining these pilots will have nowhere to return to apply their skills. Yes
            2. +1
              9 February 2023 11: 17
              Excuse me, but how many times have you retrained from type to type?
    25. +1
      8 February 2023 22: 40
      Why, I thought that everything is simple there - clutch, brake, gas ?! laughing here's a digrod
      1. +1
        8 February 2023 22: 50
        Quote: tTshka
        clutch

        what kind of clutch, there is an automatic gearbox
      2. -2
        9 February 2023 00: 24
        Quote: tTshka
        everything is simple - clutch, brake, gas
        Today, everything is even simpler: they only give voice commands to the Google Assistant, while they themselves play cards.
    26. 0
      8 February 2023 22: 45
      Quote: Zelensky
      I was not aware that it takes 3 years to learn to fly a Typhoon fighter
      there is a feeling that ukraine is cursed, they have each subsequent, God forgive me, president, worse than the previous one
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 06: 41
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        there is a feeling that ukraine is cursed, they have each subsequent, God forgive me, president, worse than the previous one


        It's not a feeling, it's a reality.
    27. 0
      8 February 2023 23: 02
      You can speed up the preparation by making up unnecessary knots.
    28. -1
      8 February 2023 23: 14
      But you can not learn to be a fascist, a drug addict and a "clown" in one person
    29. -1
      8 February 2023 23: 51
      Again, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are shooting our surrendered prisoners.
      Tin!
      Conclusion, to surrender to our prisoners does not make sense.
    30. -1
      8 February 2023 23: 59
      the clown went to the geyropes to ask for money and pennies. But his campaign was politely sent everywhere. Therefore, for the public in 404, such moronic statements are made. They hide. Although ...... can he really be that stupid?
    31. -1
      9 February 2023 00: 17
      What a fun parsley! Parsleys on the stage should make faces, but this parsley was elected president, they forced to voice decisions - the result is depressing.
    32. +1
      9 February 2023 00: 18
      During the visit of this character to England, an interesting detail surfaced.
      He brought a ZSh-7APN helmet from supposedly Ukrainian pilots as a souvenir.
      But it is clear that this helmet is new, Russian-made. Nizhny Novgorod "Heat exchanger".

      This means that the equipment, exactly like new Russian spare parts for the remaining Soviet aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, gets into Ukraine.
      Bypass ways.
      Everyone knows that Russia exported the Su-30 and MiG-29 to Malaysia and other countries of that region.
      There are private firms there that have purchased a large number of spare parts and other property for Russian aviation equipment from Russia for more than 20 years.

      That's what they sell there, and then who wants to order it. The parcel flies to Europe, from where it gets to Ukraine. Therefore, the aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not experience problems with spare parts.
      https://fjaeroparts.com/products_services_RussianFlightApparels.php
      https://fjaeroparts.com/products_services_Sukhoi2730StockComponents.php
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 00: 23
        bought for more than 20 years from Russia
        Until 2014, Ukrainians could buy them directly from the factory.
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          9 February 2023 00: 39
          Almost until that year, they didn’t buy anything - they were content with Soviet stocks of which there were enough from the USSR Air Force.
          And in general, even then there were complex relations between their military department and Russia on these issues when something was required.
          Our people were not very happy that Ukraine in 2009 sold a pair of Su-27UBs to the United States without Moscow's permission.
          Therefore, there was no particular relationship in this regard.
          Ukraine itself produced a lot of things for these aircraft - mainly in electronics and hydraulics. But not all.
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            0
            10 February 2023 09: 31
            and two Su-33s with NITKI were also sold to China
    33. +2
      9 February 2023 00: 22
      his fate is to beg super tukano ... nothing more.
    34. 0
      9 February 2023 00: 32
      There are pilots. If there are planes, then there are pilots. Everyone knows how to take them into iron tongs.
    35. +1
      9 February 2023 00: 36
      Very prudent citizens live in Europe. If they make an airplane, then they have three or four pilots. There are also those who have not passed the Medical Examination, but are slightly unsuitable for a fighter. But when necessary, they will put it into operation.
    36. 0
      9 February 2023 00: 54
      Quote from Orange Bigg
      Does he think that he needs to study less on the Mirage or Rafal, that he flew to Paris? Let him take the F-35. Not a plane, but a "fairy tale". lol

      in general, with the planes, for now, Zelensky is a bummer .....
    37. +1
      9 February 2023 01: 57
      Send Zelensky to Mars on a one way ticket.
    38. 0
      9 February 2023 03: 28
      I wonder what he thought when he asked Germany for modern submarines ... and is he even capable of thinking ...
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 08: 27
        More simple, they will give you as much as you need - a classic!
    39. -1
      9 February 2023 05: 44
      One word, woodpecker on drugs ....
    40. 0
      9 February 2023 06: 28
      And if you motivate them and give them a couple of hundred typhoons at once, then they will manage in a year. True, I would take an interest in fuel, missiles and spare parts, plus training of ground personnel, as well as means of communication. even "super tucano" no one wants to transmit 404.
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 08: 26
        Do not forget how many Sushkas and MiGs we have rewarded, no matter how we thought of re-exporting.
        And Typhoons and other wickedness are talking teeth.
        Surprise!
    41. -1
      9 February 2023 06: 30
      The jester, when they kick him out, will still continue to beg, but already at the stations and squares, he got used to the role too much. But seriously speaking, they are unlikely to be given planes. The maximum that can be is foreign crews and takeoffs from the territory of Poland. And then, first you need to find suicide bombers who will agree to sit at the helm ...
      Judging by how things are going at the front, most likely no tanks and planes will get into this war, maximum armored personnel carriers. Heavy equipment will be brought into western Ukraine and left to the Poles, NATO will not get involved in this. A starting point, a dense Russian advance beyond the Dnieper. But, this is still a long way off. And it makes no sense to burn equipment in the Donbass. There is pure pragmatism here - the old armor will be written off from the balance sheets and handed over to the Khokhol on credit, Ukraine will fall apart and the debt will be transferred to Psheks, and new tanks and armored vehicles will be purchased in place of junk with the money of European (idiots) taxpayers. That's how it will be, you'll see...
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 08: 24
        But will they not re-issue Russia's debt? Well, like - you defeated them, so you pay for them?
    42. 0
      9 February 2023 06: 33
      Quote: Osipov9391
      He brought a ZSh-7APN helmet from supposedly Ukrainian pilots as a souvenir.
      But it is clear that this helmet is new, Russian-made. Nizhny Novgorod "Heat exchanger".

      Is he advertising our products to the British? laughing He che, in a share with our manufacturers? Anything can be expected from him, he was blowing ...
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    44. 0
      9 February 2023 07: 19
      During this time, we urgently need to train our pilots, eng. and technical staff, materiel, home airfields, infrastructure, TSA and much more! It is necessary to prepare Our agents "there", so that at the right time ... because all this is serious and for a long time. Will we succeed?
    45. 0
      9 February 2023 08: 17
      To be a musician, you need skill and ears, your softer ones. And you, friends, no matter how you sit down, you are all unsuitable for musicians .... "
      (I.A. Krylov's fable Quartet)
    46. 0
      9 February 2023 08: 18
      Someone is cunning, from scratch, yes, three years, and retraining and 6 months is more than enough, but I think three!
      Everyone wants to surprise us.
    47. 0
      9 February 2023 08: 27
      Charles III ̶S̶a̶k̶s̶e̶n̶-̶K̶o̶b̶u̶r̶g̶-̶G̶o̶t̶s̶k̶o̶y̶ Windsor welcomes Nazi Zelensky. However, in their family, love for the Nazis is family. First grandmother and mother, then son.


      1. +1
        9 February 2023 10: 38
        His mother served in the British army during the war with Nazi Germany, that is, she was a veteran of the Second World War, although she did not directly participate in hostilities.
        When she volunteered on her own initiative during the war, she went to serve in the army, she was 18 years old.
    48. 0
      9 February 2023 08: 34
      I was not aware that the Typhoon pilot training period is three years. But I say, provide an opportunity, and our pilots will be trained in 2,5 years.

      We are putting a good face on a bad game .. With such terms for training pilots, the requirements for aviation supplies seem to boldly hint at complete deliveries of "fighters + pilots + mechanics." In any country, for any type of aviation, pilot training takes an impressive amount of time, and I doubt that this was a revelation for Zelensky and his entourage.
    49. 0
      9 February 2023 08: 35
      Let him send emissaries to Prigogine. That one, after 1 sortie as a navigator, is ready to conduct an air battle. That's where they know how to prepare personnel.
    50. +1
      9 February 2023 08: 39
      Well, it’s not like playing the piano, dear.)) It’s clear that you traveled through the entire institute at KVN, while your father-professor covered you, and you came for a diploma when there was time.)) And the course of study should be shortened, I think. - and that's enough.)
    51. +1
      9 February 2023 08: 48
      You are a deer, how can you be knowledgeable about anything other than the theatrical stage? You even managed to shit yourself here, dressed like a homeless person for a reception with the king
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    54. 0
      9 February 2023 09: 55
      Zelensky: I was not aware that it takes 3 years to learn to pilot a Typhoon fighter Well then...! Mitrofanushka was also sure that there was no need to study, because “cabs will take you everywhere...”!
    55. +1
      9 February 2023 10: 02
      Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
      Already said:
      In three years, you can prepare a kid after school. But to retrain a ready-made pilot, much less time is required. Everything depends on the level you have, who needs six months, who even a month is enough.

      In Ukraine, pilots are like market traders?
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    58. 0
      9 February 2023 11: 17
      It’s not like banging on a piano or leading troops.
    59. +1
      9 February 2023 12: 14
      Read Grzimek's "The Serengeti Must Not Die" how he, puzzled by the count of animals in the Ngoro Ngoro crater, decided to train as a pilot in Germany at the age of 60. He came to the flying club and, without any discussion or theory, he was immediately put at the controls. I learned in a month without interrupting my work, bought a plane and flew to Africa on my own that same year. And in our country, people spend 4 years on a Category B driver’s license because of the cunning police.
    60. -1
      9 February 2023 14: 34
      I rolled out the sponges, wondering if the non-Napoleon could take a swing at the F-35. Excuses from a decrepit Europe. A year is enough for a pilot with several hundred flight hours on the same type of aircraft, but a couple of months is enough for a less talented one. At one time, both ours and the American ones flew on opposing planes and on the Mig-23 (difficult to control if not flying in a straight line). It’s just that only the latest modifications of Western aircraft and weapons (excluding the F-22, F-35), even if not dry, will be shot down.
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    64. 0
      10 February 2023 12: 20
      If the planes are handed over, and most likely they will be handed over, then they will be piloted by NATO members. Unofficially, of course, but according to the principle of “they will die” in the status of volunteers/mercenaries/vacators
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    66. 0
      10 February 2023 17: 50
      Well, yes, learn to be a pilot. It's not like babbling on the piano with one finger.

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