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Source: Serdyukov appointed adviser to the head of Russian Technologies

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Former Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov was appointed advisor to the general director of the state corporation Russian Technologies, a source close to the state corporation said Wednesday.

“Anatoly Serdyukov’s appointment has already taken place. In the near future, he will take up his duties as adviser to the general director of the state corporation Russian Technologies, the source said.

Official confirmation of this information has not yet been reported, Interfax reports.

According to the newspaper VIEW, on November 6, Putin dismissed Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov. The new head of the defense department was Sergei Shoigu, who until that time held the post of governor of the Moscow region.

In the UK, said that Serdyukov, if necessary, will be questioned as part of the investigation of the case of fraud in Oboronservis.

Anatoly Serdyukov was born in 1962, in the village of Kholmsky, Abinsky District, Krasnodar Territory. He graduated from the Leningrad Institute of Soviet Commerce with a degree in Economics (1984), and a law degree from the St. Petersburg State University (2001). Doctor of Economic Sciences.

From 2000 to 2004, he was the deputy head of the inspectorate, then the head of the Ministry of Taxes and Levies for work with major taxpayers in St. Petersburg.

In the 2004 year - Deputy, Acting Head of the Ministry of Taxes and Tax Collection.

Since July, 2004 has led the Federal Tax Service. Since February, 2007 was appointed to the post of Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, was a permanent member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation.

Reassigned to this post on 21 May 2012 of the year.
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  1. Engrim
    Engrim 15 November 2012 07: 39
    +31
    IT ALL DOES NOT SIN! sad
    1. traveler
      traveler 15 November 2012 07: 43
      +25
      Additional confirmation: Putin (the system) does not give up his own people! They showed one of the "flock" that one should not walk to the left from his wife and "threw" from one feeding trough to another. Something tells me that I know who will become his deputies laughing
      I guess he will give advice on what issues ... Not everyone can master the budget so effectively and sell "excess" property wink
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 15 November 2012 07: 47
        +14
        Quote: traveler
        Extra confirmation: Putin (the system) does not give up!

        Totally agree with you! hi
        1. sv-sakh
          sv-sakh 15 November 2012 08: 06
          0
          Well, at least here the phrase "Putin's gang is on trial" is appropriate, or is our Tsar a good one again ???
          Hurray-patriots, shout together your "Hurray!" and make Putin's pope like this - tongue he will be pleased, as usual \
          This permutation is called so - "one thief has been fed, now let the other feed himself", and of course he shared with whom he needed ...
        2. sv-sakh
          sv-sakh 15 November 2012 08: 32
          +34
          (comment again, due to deletion)
          Putin's gang under the court!
          Here, this comment is very out of place. A thief should be in prison and all his patrons and accomplices should be seated nearby.
          1. crazyrom
            crazyrom 15 November 2012 18: 54
            0
            The fact is that Serdyuk is not by himself, but an agent of the West. And such nelia is easy to take and execute, so they are pushed here and there. However, the court is moving, at first they will be interrogated, and then they may still be jailed. This has happened more than once, under Stalin, for example, Litvinov was clearly an "American", but he was not exiled anywhere in 37, but was removed from the government and made an ambassador to the United States or Europe (I don't remember). Trotsky is the same. Obviously, an American agent cannot be removed, so they pushed him here and there until he became an obvious threat to the Country, only then he had to use his ice pick. I hope Serdyuk will also get what he deserves, though maybe not immediately.
      2. Orik
        Orik 15 November 2012 08: 07
        +13
        It’s just that the guy already realized and corrected himself, brought in how much and who needs it.
        1. sv-sakh
          sv-sakh 15 November 2012 08: 23
          +23
          Yes, nothing surprising .. just pulled the rope, and she then led to the top ... So they decided not to pull further, otherwise the Pope will not be happy :)
          In this corruption scheme, if planted, then the entire Kremlin.
          1. sv-sakh
            sv-sakh 15 November 2012 10: 23
            +4
            Dialogue in the Kremlin:
            - Ikak you did not notice earlier that he tore the state order and plundered the defense ?!
            - So they noticed Comrade President, but the team was not on top ...
            “Well, where did he do that much money?” To plant all who are connected with this fraud !!
            - So ... the money is in your account, Mr. .. President ... Excuse me to fulfill? ..
            - Sure!! Reward Mr. Taburetkin and appoint him to a new adviser position! Immediately!
          2. vadimN
            vadimN 15 November 2012 12: 57
            +1
            Quote: sv-sakh
            In this corruption scheme, if planted, then the entire Kremlin.


            You don’t even have to translate them from there. Just replace the guard and put it on the outside, not inside ... even if they live in comfort, if only they would not interfere.
        2. askort154
          askort154 15 November 2012 12: 31
          +3
          It's just that Zubkov, through the president, punished the presumptuous, lascivious son-in-law and his mistress. The lover will be jailed. The son-in-law now wakes up to know his "place" and
          faithfully, wagging his tail, look into the eyes of the owner and his daughter. Guys, if you respect yourself, do not marry the daughters of the fathers of power
          1. vadimN
            vadimN 15 November 2012 12: 58
            +1
            Quote: askort154
            Guys, if you respect yourself, do not marry the daughters of the fathers of power


            If you respect yourself, do not vote anymore for the Kremlin godfathers ...
            1. askort154
              askort154 15 November 2012 14: 15
              0
              vadimN
              If it's not a secret, tell me, what godfathers do you propose voting for, so as not to lose respect for yourself?
              1. vadimN
                vadimN 15 November 2012 15: 34
                0
                Quote: askort154
                If it's not a secret, tell me, what godfathers do you propose voting for, so as not to lose respect for yourself?


                To be honest, I don’t know! And so I suffer that there are no those on the horizon for whom I would like to vote. and if there is, then they are not allowed to participate in the elections to a cannon shot ... Well, not for Nemtsov with all sorts of "swamp" to vote ...

                In this situation, there is only one way out - "Against all". A variant of demonstrative civil disobedience within the framework of the law.
                1. vadimN
                  vadimN 15 November 2012 18: 25
                  0
                  Quote: vadimN
                  In this situation, there is only one way out - "Against all". A variant of demonstrative civil disobedience within the framework of the law.


                  Curiously, which of my statements received a "minus"? About "talkative" or about "disobedience"? Or something else? ... True, interesting winked
      3. Homo
        Homo 15 November 2012 08: 30
        +3
        Think small, at the level of "kitchen" or "grandmother near the well". The person held such a post, knows so much and you propose to release him from everything and allow free travel over the hill? He must be kept nearby, in a position that does not provide for travel over the hill. And it's easier to summon them to the prosecutor's office. And the position of "advisor" is about nothing.
        1. sv-sakh
          sv-sakh 15 November 2012 08: 34
          +20
          so that a person does not run away over a hill, there is a pre-trial detention center for the duration of the investigation, and not a high state post. Kakbe
          1. Homo
            Homo 15 November 2012 08: 41
            +5
            sv-sakh,
            In order for a person to be in an isolation ward, proof of guilt is needed, not a desire to put him in prison! I look you are so correct, such patriots, with such words rush. And you call for lawlessness, did not like it - to plant!
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 08: 45
              +12
              Quote: Homo

              In order for a person to be in an isolation ward, proof of guilt is needed rather than a desire to put

              Only a blind person will not see them. Especially in the apartment of his girlfriend Vasilyeva. Yes, and sister Serdyukov from the same sandbox.
              1. Homo
                Homo 15 November 2012 08: 47
                -4
                Alexander Romanov,
                I do not argue, but first you need to find it all !!!
                1. sv-sakh
                  sv-sakh 15 November 2012 09: 09
                  +10
                  Oh, and in our country Tymoshenko was put in an isolation ward, apparently only after the guilt was fully proved? And not only Tymoshenko and other fish are smaller and larger.
                  After the wine is proved, the person is not sent to a pre-trial detention center if
                  The pre-trial detention center is investigative the isolation ward and people are placed there while the investigation is underway and guilt is proved. They are placed so that there is no pressure on the investigation and so that the person does not hide.
                  Can a stool put pressure and hide? YES! So it’s a direct road to the investigative!
                  Learn the mat part as they say. negative
                2. Captain Vrungel
                  Captain Vrungel 15 November 2012 09: 18
                  +7
                  I do not argue, but first you need to WANT to find it all. or DO NOT WANT.
                  1. military
                    military 15 November 2012 10: 19
                    +4
                    Quote: Captain Vrungel
                    I do not argue, but first you need to WANT to find it all. or DO NOT WANT.

                    or VERY WANTED ... laughing + + + drinks or just kill * seeing where the thread went ... wink
                3. Gorchakov
                  Gorchakov 15 November 2012 09: 20
                  +5
                  Quote: Homo
                  I do not argue, but first you need to find it all !!!

                  Not to be found, it has already been found ... It is necessary to tie the stolen to the minister ... And this is very, very difficult ... Sooner or later it will happen ... Or rather, they are just beginning to testify that the actions of the detainees were sanctioned by the minister himself .. .. There will be testimony and evidence, then it will be soared .... But judging by the program "Special Correspondent" A. Mamontov, there is more than enough evidence, but they are still raw ....
                  1. igor.borov775
                    igor.borov775 15 November 2012 11: 18
                    0
                    They don’t believe the mailbox already, Mamongov said in the rain he sincerely hopes that there will be a result of the investigation, Now the main thing is to put out the scandal, I’m writing and comments from our specialists are on the mailbox. According to statistics in Singapore, it seems sorry just attention was directed to the site And there in the mailbox the death penalty for corruption, drugs, and armed assault or robbery, Crime under such articles fell to such a level that the authorities called on the population to help control the situation, the fact is that foreign experts in brackets often begin to commit such crimes, and this is already very serious a problem, Well, ours in the box as always sing that there are postscripts and the death penalty for corruption such as a mistake, And for fraud it’s also wrong, AND CHINA is carefully studying the experience of SINGAPORE They want to finalize their articles
                4. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 09: 34
                  +4
                  Quote: Homo
                  I do not argue, but first you need to find it all !!

                  But what are the transferred originals of the paintings from Vasilieva’s apartment, not proof? Billion-dollar damage is also a joke.
                  1. military
                    military 15 November 2012 11: 13
                    +3
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    But what are the transferred originals of the paintings from Vasilieva’s apartment, not proof? Billion-dollar damage is also a joke.

                    first, the investigation should have the results of an official examination that all this is precisely the originals ... (otherwise ... with our museums and ensuring the safety of exhibits in them, an embarrassment may well happen ... like "everything has already been stolen before us ! " wink ), then "tilt" the defendants to cooperation, convince them that without a stool, their excursion to the kichu will be much longer ... and then (alas!) ... or get Solntseliky's approval for "landing" (which is very unlikely ), or give the case a sluggish process and, through simple manipulations, ruin it without bringing it to court (which is most likely) ... request
                  2. Gorchakov
                    Gorchakov 15 November 2012 15: 08
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    But what are the transferred originals of the paintings from Vasilieva’s apartment, not proof? Billion-dollar damage is also a joke.

                    For what was found at Vasilyeva Serdyukov cannot be executed .... !!! But if Vasilieva gives testimony or there is other evidence, then he should be in a hurry ... But, there is no need to hurry, in such a high-profile case, where there is a political coloring, there should be no breakdown ... A hasty fisherman, the catch may go wrong, which must not be allowed in this situation ... In this case, rush and populism are not acceptable .....
              2. Vito
                Vito 15 November 2012 09: 21
                +22
                Alexander Romanov Good morning to you.
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                In order for a person to be in an isolation ward, proof of guilt is needed rather than a desire to put

                Nothing, we will help now.


                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Only a blind person will not see them. Especially in the apartment of his girlfriend Vasilyeva.

                Dedicated to thieves of high rank!
                Salary in a hundred pieces of wood
                She never liked
                And then a little hand climbed
                The wealth of the country in the bins
                Fourteen room apartment
                This is the scope to be stunned
                Rings of gold a hundred with a hook
                Not enough to put on all fingers
                On the walls of a huge apartment
                Paintings by great brushes
                Well what else can you add
                Elite bl-she has a taste
                Chinese service of one hundred pieces
                Table knives silver
                Her whole kitchen was appreciated
                One hundred thousand green in total
                There were also little things
                Bobla million by three
                But this is all so for the seed
                Look further my friend
                And the main find was
                Guys, I'm fucking myself
                Square face TOLYANA
                He sat on a bed in his bedroom
                This is the plot for the novel
                And Nuka RUSSIA look
                Kake that funny couple
                State saws rubles
                What kind of planes are there?
                Where are the tanks and where are the ships
                Minister's sleek sluts
                STRENGTHENING THE COUNTRY'S DEFENSE
                Think three billion
                When trillions will go
                THEN LANDING STARTS
                And even the guilty will be found.

                I still have another version of the ending, but it's generally cruel, why didn't I squeeze it in? I do not want my friends and dear colleagues to share our opinions. Enough disputes and mutual reproaches to each other, smoothly turning into obscenities. It is NOT worth it. If someone is curious how the second option ends, I will unsubscribe in a personal!
                1. nycsson
                  nycsson 15 November 2012 09: 39
                  +6
                  Quote: Vito
                  Dedicated to thieves of high rank!

                  Plusanul from the heart! Thank! hi
                2. rennim
                  rennim 15 November 2012 10: 45
                  +2
                  Do you want Vasilyeva's salary of 5 Lyamas ..? What are 100 thousand here?
                3. Tatanka Yotanka
                  Tatanka Yotanka 15 November 2012 13: 07
                  +4
                  Quote: Vito
                  Square face TOLYANA

                  Yes, it does NOT look strange,
                  Reader, judge for yourself
                  And who? - Tolyan's face
                  Warmed on my chest

                  To the breadwinner to increase the rating
                  The authorities have a scent
                  "He held his horses" -Eduardych
                  And gave up his zamov whores

                  With a caring domineering hand
                  Work ordered to give
                  Tolyana - his like a baby
                  You can't tear off your boobs
                  1. Vito
                    Vito 15 November 2012 16: 37
                    0
                    Tatanka Yotanka , Hello Brother in Arms! hi
                    LET'S SHAKE YOUR HAND! drinks
                    1. Tatanka Yotanka
                      Tatanka Yotanka 15 November 2012 20: 28
                      +2
                      Quote: Vito
                      Tatanka Yotanka, Hello Brother in Arms! hi
                      LET'S SHOCK YOUR HAND! drinks

                      weapon poems for poets
                      I heard it once
                      - deign to let you
                      tea does not dry out hi drinks
              3. Denzel13
                Denzel13 15 November 2012 09: 38
                +4
                Hmm, there won't be any "change of course" - again, words are thrown around and people are shuffled according to their posts. Let's see how the investigation will develop, judging by its multi-episode nature, it will not end quickly.

                Homo, you are wrong in the matter that evidence is needed to be placed in a temporary detention facility - enough suspicion of a crime. But the fact that the position of adviser is about nothing is a fact.
                1. ATATA
                  ATATA 15 November 2012 10: 23
                  +11
                  Quote: Denzel13
                  But the fact that the position of adviser is about nothing is a fact.

                  Do you like to fool yourself?
                  The fact is that the former minister, under whose authority Bl ** bloomed bloody and larceny, was planted not in a bunk, but in a warm place.
                  And they don’t even care how people react to this, they just hang out as they want. Remember the case of prosecutors covering underground casinos. Everything is already at large quietly.
                  And I start to feel sick when I read such a hu * that in the news. Sorry generously, it’s hard to say otherwise. (great and powerful Russian language)
              4. alexng
                alexng 15 November 2012 10: 04
                +3
                Alexander, while there is no official confirmation and this infe does not cost too seriously. We are waiting for either confirmation or denial. It may turn out that this is another throw-in provocation. And that is most likely.
                1. Kaa
                  Kaa 15 November 2012 17: 42
                  0
                  Quote: alexneg
                  It may turn out that this is another throw-in provocation. And that is most likely.

                  "Interfax announced the appointment of Serdyukov to the position of advisor to the general director of the state corporation" Russian Technologies ", but later" RIA Novosti "disseminated information that the issue of a new job for the ex-defense minister was still being discussed. November 15, 2012 13:25http : //www.newstube.ru/media/ostayotsya-neopredelennoj-sud-ba-anatoliya-ser
                  dukova
                  We are in a hurry, brothers, we are in a hurry ...
                  1. alexng
                    alexng 15 November 2012 19: 29
                    0
                    Peskov: the Kremlin knows about the appointment of Serdyukov only at the level of rumors
                    http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=960493
              5. military
                military 15 November 2012 10: 52
                +3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Only a blind person will not see them. Especially in the apartment of his girlfriend Vasilyeva. Yes, and sister Serdyukov from the same sandbox.

                In order for all this confiscated property to become "evidence" and could be somehow incriminated to the stool from the investigators of the Investigative Committee, seven more sweats must come off ... recourse
                and in this "sandbox" there are still many sisters and girlfriends of our state leadership of the highest rank, and they all swarm very hard there ... feel
            2. Homo
              Homo 15 November 2012 08: 46
              -5
              What are the guys minus out of anger?
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 09: 36
                +5
                Quote: Homo

                What are the guys minus out of anger?

                From your naivety and blind faith in a fair trial of those in power.
            3. Gorchakov
              Gorchakov 15 November 2012 09: 12
              0
              Quote: Homo
              In order for a person to be in an isolation ward, proof of guilt is needed, not a desire to put him in prison! I look you are so correct, such patriots, with such words rush. And you call for lawlessness, did not like it - to plant!

              You will forgive the guys ... They are simply on emotions and believe that everything is so simple in this world and wishful thinking .... Emotions in this matter should be absent altogether to avoid bias .. And sooner or later, the case will be brought to a conclusion to the logical end, regardless of their opinion ....
              1. ATATA
                ATATA 15 November 2012 10: 34
                +2
                Quote: Gorchakov
                And sooner or later, the matter will be brought to its logical end, regardless of their opinion ....

                Yes, to the same end as the case of casino gaming prosecutors.
                Your comments would be funny to read if it weren’t so insulting.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 12: 43
                  +1
                  Quote: ATATA
                  Yes, to the same end as the case of casino gaming prosecutors.

                  I posted the same comment, but already deleted it, noting yours. Plus, the case was brought to a logical end-end to the case. And mind you, this case was under control of the MOST hi
              2. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 12: 41
                0
                Quote: Gorchakov
                ..And sooner or later, the matter will be brought to its logical conclusion, regardless of their opinion ....

                Yes, that is exactly what happened with the well-known case of the protection of prosecutors. Where is this case? There he himself took control of the situation - the logical end of the matter hi
            4. Jin
              Jin 15 November 2012 15: 13
              +2
              Quote: Homo
              And you call for lawlessness, did not like it - to plant!


              What do you mean "did not like" ??? We didn't like him !!!! Many officers of various levels "did not like him" and not only! His methods, his reforms! Cases are judged by the results, the results are just on the face ... The collapse of the ongoing reforms and theft, why should he like him? Guys write correctly, he is simply tied to the top tightly and knows a lot of things that others do not need to know! It will not work out just like that, especially since he is also a "relative" !!!
        2. Ustas
          Ustas 15 November 2012 08: 38
          +4
          Quote: Homo
          A person has held such a post, knows so much, and you propose to free him from everything and allow him to freely leave the hill?

          For fifteen years into the taiga in a closed zone "pencils" to bring down, from there secrets are not issued.
        3. d1m1drol
          d1m1drol 15 November 2012 08: 41
          +2
          Advisor .. this is nobody ... and I completely agree with you in the rest! plus you)
          1. ATATA
            ATATA 15 November 2012 10: 40
            +4
            Quote: d1m1drol
            Advisor ... it's nobody ... and I totally agree with you

            And what will he advise him there, how can he be useful there, what knowledge does he have, or do we no longer have honest people in the leadership?
            So this is what I think ...
            While our people will behave like Rams (if Che forgive me), nothing will change in our country and life.
            A thief should be in prison, not advisers.
        4. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 08: 47
          +7
          Quote: Homo
          It must be kept nearby, in a position that does not provide for leaving the hill.

          Well, yes, let him continue to fall apart and steal fool
          1. d1m1drol
            d1m1drol 15 November 2012 09: 13
            +3
            show me an advisor who has real power and opportunity? I work in a large office .. we also have such "advisors" .. no salary, zero is right - an advisor is a person who has lost trust, but who is not so easy to eliminate or expel for one reason or another)
            1. igor.borov775
              igor.borov775 15 November 2012 11: 27
              -1
              Gentlemen, if it’s true, then don’t need to get excited, it’s simple, the person is in reserve there and the position will arrive,
          2. Gorchakov
            Gorchakov 15 November 2012 09: 25
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well, yes, let him continue to fall apart and steal

            Advisor, this is zero ... They won’t let him steal ... But you can put an adviser, but an ex-minister is not advisable ... Strategic partners will not understand correctly ....
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 09: 37
              +5
              Quote: Gorchakov

              Advisor, this is zero ... They will not let him steal ...

              Hahahahaha, who will not give? laughing
              1. Gorchakov
                Gorchakov 15 November 2012 14: 28
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Hahahahaha who will not give

                Alexander, and if I, instead of common sense, I will write that: Hang everyone on the wall, put the forest in Kolyma, Putin is a thief, I don’t believe anyone, there is no justice and will not be? Will this change anything? Or will I have more pluses that I don’t need or will I increase my virtual title? I write really .... Now no one will let him steal, because he’s under the hood ... And I don’t think what will happen ... I think he will sit, but in order to plant, you have to work hard and not talk in vain on the forum ....
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 14: 35
                  +1
                  Quote: Gorchakov
                  Alexander, and if I instead of common sense

                  I honestly did not understand what common sense is, in this case.
                  Quote: Gorchakov
                  I write real

                  If you are spinning in a Kremlin company, then yes you write really, if not ....... you just don’t know it. Like me.
                  Quote: Gorchakov
                  Now nobody will let him steal, because he's under the hood ..

                  And if they give him this position, then not only under the hood, but also under the roof.
                  Quote: Gorchakov
                  I think he will sit

                  I think you're wrong.
                  Quote: Gorchakov
                  but in order to plant, you have to work hard and not talk in vain on the forum.

                  You suggest that I work and put him in prison, if I’m so polished, I never thought that they would offer me the position of prosecutor general laughing I won’t put him in another way, although I would love to do it.
                  1. Gorchakov
                    Gorchakov 15 November 2012 15: 17
                    0
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    You suggest that I work and put him in prison, if I’m so polite, I never thought that I would be offered the position of Attorney General laughing. Otherwise, I will not put him in, although I would have done it with pleasure.

                    Do you work in the prosecutor's office? Do not flatter yourself .. I didn’t even have this in my thoughts ... Just, reading you, I THINK that each of the writers here understands more than all the special services and the prosecutor's office combined .... I leave you with my opinion. ...
              2. Jin
                Jin 15 November 2012 15: 22
                -1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Hahahahaha, who will not give?


                Yeah, and I'm wondering who won't give it! Are not those characters who "did not give" before ??? laughing
            2. sv-sakh
              sv-sakh 15 November 2012 10: 19
              +3
              "They scared the hedgehog with his bare bottom"
              "They punished the goat with cabbage"
              There are also proverbs on this subject, but the essence is one, the punishment is akin to encouragement ... And poor pensioners should probably be glad now that they have plowed their whole lives honestly and have been given three penny pensions, and he plundered the country, and now he sits calmly in advisers :)
              If they wanted to plant, then they would plant now, but did not arrange a booth with permutations.
        5. Ascetic
          Ascetic 15 November 2012 10: 12
          +6
          Homo,

          You are right in many ways. Firstly, this issue has not yet been finally resolved.

          RIA Novosti, citing a source familiar with the situation, reports that official decision on the appointment of ex-defense minister Anatoly Serdyukov as advisor to the general director of the state corporation "Russian Technologies" not yet accepted.
          "This issue is being discussed," he stressed.
          Source
          Secondly, Russian Technologies is headed by Sergei Chemezov, one of Serdyukov's main opponents in the power hierarchy. It was he who openly accused Serdyukov of disrupting the state defense order last year. And the appointment of an "errand boy" for his main enemy is the height of humiliation for an ambitious official who tasted all the delights of practically no one limited power. It's like demoted a regimental commander to office PNSH for example ..
          Thirdly, I am 100% sure that formally there is no crime on Serdyukov. For example, his sister Puzikova owns three elite apartments worth 700 million rubles (in Molochny Lane next to Vasilyeva) with an annual income of 240 thousand rubles.
          link here
          Serdyukov himself formally goal like a falcon, he doesn’t have real estate and accounts abroad, apartments of cottages and land plots (formally, for sure, everything is registered as a tax man’s frontman so you just can’t take twenty rubles with our laws), and to prove his involvement in fraud will be very difficult if at all possible, as performers usually sit down and true leaders and owners are always formally clean before the law. As for his wife, Yulia Zubkova, whose annual income is 25 million rubles (Serdyukov has 4 million rubles), she officially filed for divorce in May from a spree. husband. More about her here
          Journalist Arkady Mamontov made the documentary film "Corruption" about fraud in the military department under the ex-Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov. The film was released on the Russia 1 television channel as part of the Special Correspondent program on Tuesday, November 13.



          It's always nice to see your native chevron on the avatar hi
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 10: 41
            +2
            Quote: Ascetic
            citing a source familiar with the situation, reports that the official decision on the appointment of ex-defense minister Anatoly Serdyukov as an advisor to the general director of the state corporation "Russian Technologies" has not yet been made.
            "This issue is being discussed," he stressed

            Stanislav, in a healthy society, only for discussing such a matter, officials should kick out of their valuables hi
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 15 November 2012 11: 16
              +4
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Stanislav, in a healthy society, only for discussing such a matter, officials should kick out of their valuables



              The idea to arrange for former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov in Rostekhnologii belonged to the head of the presidential administration, Sergei Ivanov, Kommersant writes on November 15. "Sergei Chemezov agreed with this, Vladimir Putin approved," a source in the Kremlin told the publication.
              here
              By the way, P. Grachev, after his resignation, was also appointed to this post.
              This practice has existed since the Brezhnev era. Class A class officials are NOT JOINED, but as a rule, they are escorted with honor or retirement to the skirting board for an insignificant post. This is the trouble ... By the way, I already spoke about this .. Another at the academy I had the opportunity to listen to the lectures of one of the VDA teachers on management theory and the mathematical model of management systems and their characteristics.
              Three ways to form an elite
              in comments here
              The internal goal of our bureaucratic elite is self-preservation. That is, on the basis of this model, it is concluded that if the government does not change the way elites are formed society and the country will collapse in the course of the life of one generation.
              1. Kaa
                Kaa 15 November 2012 11: 48
                +4
                Quote: Ascetic
                Class A nomenclature officials are NOT PLANTED, but as a rule, they are escorted with honors to retirement or driven into the skirting board for an insignificant post. This is the trouble.

                During the rampant "Yezhovism", a similar situation arose. Imprisoning and shooting the People's Commissar of Internal Affairs - this is what a storm in the world and in the country will rise, it turns out that they were "driving" in the wrong direction? But when he was "taken" from the post of the People's Commissar of Water Transport, everything went quietly and calmly. To "take" and shoot Tukhachevsky 1st Deputy People's Commissar of Defense is a "scandal", they are transferred to the post of commander of the Volga Military District, and there they "take" them quietly.
                Now, to initiate a criminal case against the former Minister of Defense, I can imagine the resonance in the world and in the country, again the quieted marshlands are "going to live", but the case against ONE of the officials of "Russian Technologies" is just a fight with those who "here and there we have sometimes honestly does not want to live "... and all ends in the water.
                1. ATATA
                  ATATA 15 November 2012 13: 00
                  0
                  After your comment, not much easier, but not until the end.
          2. in reserve
            in reserve 15 November 2012 13: 17
            -1
            After watching the film, I would have shot Serdyukov and all his accomplices without trial.
        6. vadimN
          vadimN 15 November 2012 12: 59
          +1
          Quote: Homo
          It must be kept nearby, in a position that does not provide for leaving the hill.


          This position is called - the person under investigation in the FSB detention center "Lefortovo"!
        7. tverskoi77
          tverskoi77 16 November 2012 13: 54
          0
          Homo - strategic thinking is felt)))
      4. Kaa
        Kaa 15 November 2012 09: 44
        -5
        Quote: traveler
        They showed one of the "flock" that it was impossible to walk to the left from his wife and "threw" from one feeding trough to another.

        And it seems to me that Serdyukov was thrown to the head of Russian Technologies as a pirate "black mark" ...
        1. Orik
          Orik 15 November 2012 09: 48
          +15
          Silly picture, Kaganovich lived to the 90s, Voroshilov wasn’t killed either, but I don’t recognize the third one. Liberalistic anti-Stalinist agitation.
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 15 November 2012 10: 25
            +5
            Quote: Orik
            Silly picture, Kaganovich lived to the 90s, Voroshilov wasn’t killed either, but I don’t recognize the third one. Liberalistic anti-Stalinist agitation.

            I agree. "Wise Kaa" argued garbage.
          2. Kaa
            Kaa 15 November 2012 10: 37
            -4
            Quote: Orik
            Silly picture, Kaganovich lived to the 90s, Voroshilov was not killed either

            Quote: baltika-18
            I agree. "Wise Kaa" argued garbage.

            "Compromisers", respected, this is why they survived because the "black marks" in the form of "thrown" from the post of the Head of the NKVD to the People's Commissar of water transport were perceived in time, quickly guided by the "changing line of the party." If I were engaged in reprinting what is called
            Quote: Orik
            Liberalistic anti-Stalinist agitation.

            probably, there would be "innocently murdered Tukhachevskys, bluchers and other ..ers"
            The story with Serdyukov is from the child's game "who didn't hide, it's not my fault ...". The one with ears, let him hear, the clever official will draw a historical parallel hi
      5. dimanf
        dimanf 15 November 2012 10: 06
        +4
        bears are sawing the budget. Putin shouts Hurray !!!!!
        Putin is not an ASAD and this is sad.
      6. Retx
        Retx 15 November 2012 11: 12
        0
        Guess who pulled him up? Ivanov! The one who suffered corruption in the Glonass project for 2 years
        Sergei Ivanov arranged for Serdyukov at Rostekhnologii

        The idea to arrange for former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov in Rostekhnologii belonged to the head of the presidential administration, Sergei Ivanov, Kommersant writes on November 15. "Sergei Chemezov agreed with this, Vladimir Putin approved," a source in the Kremlin told the publication.

        Where is the landing? Gang n ***** s am
        1. Jin
          Jin 15 November 2012 15: 33
          -1
          Quote: RETX
          Where is the landing? Gang n ***** s



          Hmm ... we can't wait along the way, buddy sad It's all sad ...
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 15 November 2012 07: 46
      +9
      Quote: Engrim
      IT ALL DOES NOT SIN!

      This is gov ..... keep afloat and none other than GDP! request
      1. d1m1drol
        d1m1drol 15 November 2012 08: 45
        -8
        I do not agree .. shooting is prohibited here ... and not GDP decided it. And to imprison ... so the liberals will immediately sink into the watered prisoner Serdkov. Let him sit as an advisor and not hang out about shit abroad)
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 08: 50
          +7
          Quote: d1m1drol
          .shooting is prohibited here ... and it was not GDP that decided it

          He can enter the execution, but does not want to.
          Quote: d1m1drol
          And to imprison ... so right there the liberals will sink into the watered prisoner Serdkov

          Well, then, to see the truth, the opinion of the liberals is more precious to Putin than the people who elected him.
          Quote: d1m1drol
          Let him sit as an advisor and not hang out about shit abroad)

          With people like you, corruption in Russia will be fought forever.
          1. d1m1drol
            d1m1drol 15 November 2012 09: 02
            +1
            With someone like me?) Well, look, let's think logically ... Serdyukov was removed from the post of minister - this is a minus diplomatic immunity. So?! Further, so that he remains on a leash (remains subordinate to the center and does not hide), he is put on a state position (albeit no position), then the matter is quietly cooked and he is pulled up when necessary by the investigation. An adviser is a consultant .. they may not listen to him .. and even more so he does not decide anything !!! While the investigation is underway .. there is no need to rush to conclusions and raise people's unrest. Minus those who call for violent methods of solving the problem!
            1. vadimN
              vadimN 15 November 2012 13: 13
              0
              Quote: d1m1drol
              Serdyukov removed from the post of minister is minus dipl. immunity. So?


              Not this way! Diplomatic immunity applies to official diplomats on duty abroad. Even the deputy corps has immunity, but this is no longer diplomatic. The minister is only a high-ranking official, and not at all diplomatic, especially in his own country. In other countries, presidents are sent to prison, not like ministers ...
        2. Denzel13
          Denzel13 15 November 2012 09: 44
          +3
          Shooting is not prohibited here. A moratorium has been imposed on the enforcement of such sentences. This measure is replaced by life imprisonment for the duration of the moratorium. In the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, the concept of "death penalty" is present.
        3. ATATA
          ATATA 15 November 2012 10: 45
          +1
          Quote: d1m1drol
          Let him sit as an advisor and not hang out about shit abroad)

          I should hang out like that.
          P.S. Fly to minus until you grow wiser.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 07: 59
      +15
      Quote: Engrim
      IT ALL DOES NOT SIN!

      And it will not drown, the country is ruled by a caste of untouchables. Family business throughout the country. One collode, only changes in places. Two days ago I wrote that it would not work out with Serdyukov, as with the dismissal of Darkin and Zurabov. See my comments Putin read. Sami himself. they drive people to the swamp with their own hands, and then the movies show about the sponsorship of the State Department and others. They themselves give the ground, and then they fight against the swamp, which they themselves grow.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 15 November 2012 10: 50
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        With their own hands they drive people to the swamp, and then the cinema shows about sponsoring the State Department and others. They give the ground themselves, and then they fight the swamps, which they themselves cultivate.

        Alexander, although it happens and often disagree with you, but here, as they say, "100 pluses".
      2. ATATA
        ATATA 15 November 2012 13: 08
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        With their own hands they drive people to the swamp, and then the cinema shows about sponsoring the State Department and others. They give the ground themselves, and then they fight the swamps, which they themselves cultivate.

        100 500 pluses.
        Looking at it makes me sick, and it seems that we live in a madhouse.
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 15 November 2012 15: 31
          +1
          I see a minus! (
          Sorry!!! Not that he said!
          Political analysts from the Kremlin have already explained everything: "Serdyukov's new position is a sophisticated and cruel punishment!"
          How thieves are punished here. It turns out there are things worse than prison, hard labor or execution.
          * fuck! Good people where to run to the common man ?? !!
          belay
      3. vadimN
        vadimN 15 November 2012 13: 16
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        With their own hands they drive people to the swamp, and then the cinema shows about sponsoring the State Department and others. They give the ground themselves, and then they fight the swamps, which they themselves cultivate.


        I am joining! In general, there were no illusions before, but the hope was still burning ... But ... Putin did not pass the test for lice. The remnants of hope and respect for GDP have disappeared ... I'm sorry that I voted for him!
    4. traveler
      traveler 15 November 2012 08: 02
      +2
      Probably afraid to worsen "indicators"

      Annually, 1 trillion rubles are stolen from the funds allocated for state purchases, says Sergei Stepashin, chairman of the Russian Audit Chamber.

      “Every year, one trillion rubles are stolen from funds allocated for state purchases,” Stepashin said.

      “Unfortunately, I think there will be new cases. All materials were transferred to the Military Prosecutor's Office "
      He clarified that “1/14 of the country's consolidated budget is being plundered”. "The situation is critical", - Stepashin believes.


      Somehow I became disillusioned (although I was not particularly fascinated) in the anti-corruption struggle, "a crow will not peck out a crow's eyes", the current situation is completely satisfied with the "top", it is not hard workers and peasants who steal, but they themselves
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 08: 40
        +7
        Quote: traveler

        Somehow I became disillusioned (although I was not particularly fascinated) in the anti-corruption struggle, "a crow will not peck out a crow's eyes", the current situation is completely satisfied with the "top", it is not hard workers and peasants who steal, but they themselves

        Such a state of affairs can lead to revolution. Salaries cannot calm a Russian person, a Russian person has a sense of justice and if the government continues in the same spirit, it will be overthrown. The question of time.
        1. d1m1drol
          d1m1drol 15 November 2012 09: 05
          -1
          And the masses are quite easy to manipulate), especially in the era of evil ... liberalism. When the media can write whatever they want and they will get almost nothing for it)
        2. sanyabasik
          sanyabasik 15 November 2012 09: 55
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          if the government continues in the same spirit, it is overthrown
          1. rennim
            rennim 15 November 2012 10: 50
            +4
            Previously, you had to think ... before the elections ... But there is nothing to blame on yourself ... Although personally I did not vote for VVP. And minus as much as you like ... Didn't vote for him ...
            1. sanyabasik
              sanyabasik 15 November 2012 11: 29
              0
              Quote: rennim
              Did not vote for him ...


              Didn't vote for him
            2. military
              military 15 November 2012 11: 33
              +1
              Quote: rennim
              Did not vote for him ...

              Yes, many did not vote for him, but what's the point ... request
            3. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 12: 48
              +1
              Quote: rennim
              .. Although I personally did not vote for VVP. And minus as much as you like ... Didn't vote for him ...

              We respect in the current situation there are more chances to get rid of the minuses and not a little, for the recognition of the type- "I voted for Putin" hi And you plus +
            4. vadimN
              vadimN 15 November 2012 13: 18
              +1
              Quote: rennim
              Did not vote for him ...


              On such as you exist comrade Churov ...
              1. Botanologist
                Botanologist 15 November 2012 18: 25
                0
                Not everything is so hopeless. Churov can rule percent 7-10, and even where there are no observers and there is no KOIB. When the people rests, he will do nothing.
            5. Jin
              Jin 15 November 2012 15: 49
              0
              Quote: rennim
              . Did not vote for him ...


              Why minus something? Plus! You are not the only one! That's just not for anyone else ... I also did not vote for VVP, I did not go, but I had to, it seems like the column "against all" was removed and it seems like the crossed out bill is also channeling? Maybe I'm wrong, but such a fad got stuck in my head, so I didn't go. I won't make such a mistake again ... at least I recognize I'll go to the edge
              1. AleksUkr
                AleksUkr 15 November 2012 16: 37
                +1
                Something you all are like instituted - voted, not voted. I also did not vote for him. But the whole point is that the political field is quiet and smooth. Worthy candidates were cleaned out or not allowed ... And the GDP at its SHOW WITH THE PEOPLE last year promised a lot. Read again the 7 BIGGROUND BLOWS to GDP before the election. True, they do not reach the victory of Stalin's victors, but there are too many promises in them. Much time has passed, but victorious reports have not been observed, unless, of course, they are replaced with all sorts of scandals. This year, even from the SHOW, VVP refused. Probably there is nothing more to promise. Yes indeed - Why ... And Serdyukov - what to take from him. He is an official, whose protege is known. He was left for a second term. And you want VVP to repent before the people - you made a mistake, you know ... and put Taburetkin in prison. Let's remember a good proverb - FISH ROTS FROM THE HEAD AND CLEAN IT FROM THE TAIL, Putin does not give up his own. They will clean the small fry, everything will follow Viktor Stepanovich. "I wanted the best, but it turned out as always." He was a good man, cheerful; he knew how to provoke the people. The current rulers are far from him; they do not even want to go to the SHOW. Maybe someday the people will make them report .... I would live to be !!!!
              2. Botanologist
                Botanologist 15 November 2012 18: 24
                0
                It seems like a crossed billuity too channel?
                Canal. If the number of invalid ballots exceeds the number of ballots cast for the candidate, the election shall be deemed not held.
                Now leapfrog with the law, all sorts of points are changing, etc., but if you explain this to the people, then the elections can be "sent" in such a way that the authorities will have to think very hard about how to live in general.
        3. baltika-18
          baltika-18 15 November 2012 10: 52
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          , Russian people have a sense of justice and if the government continues in the same spirit, it will be overthrown. A question of time.

          And here, too, to the point.
          1. Nicotine 7
            Nicotine 7 15 November 2012 20: 09
            0
            Well, who doubted that Taburetkin was just a lightning rod.
    5. Ross
      15 November 2012 08: 37
      0
      Engrim,
      The "hard" fate of an official is to be forever in the "cage" of power.
    6. Vadivak
      Vadivak 15 November 2012 08: 50
      +5
      Quote: Engrim
      IT ALL DOES NOT SIN!


      It has not yet surfaced, give time you will still see in the State Council or the Duma or the government there are guarantees


      “Serdyukov was an effective minister of defense, this was manifested in the course of the reforms that he carried out in the armed forces,” Medvedev.
    7. Gorchakov
      Gorchakov 15 November 2012 09: 02
      +1
      Quote: Engrim
      IT ALL DOES NOT SIN! sad

      Drown ... Advisor, this is not the head of Russian Technologies ... Everything has its time ....
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 09: 40
        +3
        Quote: Gorchakov
        Advisor, this is not the head of Russian Technologies ... Everything has its time.

        It will be the head, now only the people will podsopakuetsya, will forget and go ahead. Examples to bring?
      2. Kaa
        Kaa 15 November 2012 17: 52
        0
        Quote: Gorchakov
        Advisor, this is not the head of Russian Technologies ... Everything has its time.

        Some regard the appointment to Russian Technologies as a warning or even a sophisticated mockery: this is one of the very structures that "ate" the now former chief of the Ministry of Defense. Serdyukov is directly responsible for everything that happened at Oboronservis, "where a grandiose corruption scandal broke out," Komoedov expressed confidence. With this, according to him, the participants of the "round table" on the problems of defense capability, which took place the day before in the Duma committee, agreed. "Each of the distinguished military leaders who spoke considered it necessary to emphasize that for the corruption committed in the military department, the destruction of military education, the failure of the presidential program to provide permanent housing for military personnel, the former Minister of Defense Serdyukov should bear, at least, legal responsibility," the deputy-admiral said. "Serdyukov is called an advisor to the structures that ate him," agrees political strategist Alexander Morozov. Now the ex-minister will be under the control of people with whom he was in conflict, the expert said.
        “The appointment is a very formidable warning to mister Serdyukov,” Aleksey Mukhin, director of the Center for Political Information, suggested in an interview with Business FM. “If he were appointed advisor to the president, it would be much calmer for his career and fate. The irony of fate: Chemezov and Serdyukov were considered positional opponents and there was no sympathy between them. This is more a punishment than a reward. So to speak, a bench from which it is easy to withdraw anywhere. "
        In a conversation with RBC, Mukhin noted that this position would become "a special mockery" for Serdyukov. "If he still had unofficial immunity, in the event of his resignation, he could be appointed advisor to the president ... (Position in Russian Technologies) - this is not even a link, this is an attempt to keep A. Serdyukov in sight, but cut off it depends on a real opportunity to influence the situation around Oboronservis, the expert is sure.
        The transfer of Serdyukov to work with Chemezov can be called a concession from the former minister, political analyst Pavel Salin believes. "Serdyukov agreed to give in an amicable way all the assets that he and his team continue to control, despite the formal resignation from the ministry," the expert quotes Kommersant FM.
        The further career, and indeed the fate of the former head of the Ministry of Defense as a whole, may not be determined yet, and rumors about a position in Rostekhnologii may turn out to be a duck. Moreover, launched into the information space by the authorities themselves in order to check how society will react to this or that stepSome experts say.
        "The question of the extent of the corruption investigation within the framework of the Ministry of Defense is being resolved, the question of which chain of people can be extended within the framework of this investigation is being resolved, the question is being solved - will Serdyukov be attracted or not", - political scientist Nikolai Zlobin told Business FM. November 15, 2012, 16:24 http://www.b-port.com/news/item/91659.html
    8. Cadets
      Cadets 15 November 2012 09: 38
      +2
      ... and does not wash off! request
    9. lotus04
      lotus04 15 November 2012 09: 46
      +2
      Quote: Engrim
      IT ALL DOES NOT SIN! sad


      Rest in peace! Russian technology.
      Which is already gone. recourse
    10. serjant4
      serjant4 15 November 2012 12: 46
      -1
      WHAT HE'S DIED! SHA Russian Technologies will "fill up" !!!
    11. klimpopov
      klimpopov 15 November 2012 21: 44
      0
      INFORMATION ABOUT THE APPOINTMENT OF EX-MINISTER OF DEFENSE Anatoly Serdyukov to work in the state company Rostekhnologii does not correspond to the validity

      15 November 2012 | 21: 17
      RIA Novosti was informed about this in the press service of the state corporation. They say that there are currently no documents or other official instructions regulating Serdyukov’s status as an adviser to the general director or employee of a state corporation. The press service also said that General Director of Russian Technologies Sergey Chemezov has been on a business trip since November 13.

      http://echo.msk.ru/news/951736-echo.html

      I understand that the source is so-so, but I don’t know who to believe, everyone just blatantly lies to us!
    12. Seversk
      Seversk 15 November 2012 23: 32
      0
      Oh a little late)))) I read your comets) Burn)
      It always has been) Alas .........
      There is a good movie, look who forgot
      (From the life of Fedor Kuzkin)
      And this is an excerpt from the movie (search through Google)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDQ1CxcTJhs
  2. YARY
    YARY 15 November 2012 07: 40
    +4
    am am am
    UUUUUUUUUUUU !!!! Stsuuukaaa!
    He will be offended - well, with him !!!


    Which is understandable tepericha, with our opinion we can go ... well, you yourself know
    1. FID
      FID 15 November 2012 07: 43
      +20
      Q.E.D! The "fight" against corruption is in full swing!
      1. YARY
        YARY 15 November 2012 08: 00
        +10
        Immediately recalls the Soviet-NOMENCLATURE!
        Well, what has changed ?????

        As the goats were transplanted from one chair to another, this is how they are transplanted, only there is more harm and they steal hundreds of times more!
        It's not lads that "Aurora" should be removed from the fun!
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 15 November 2012 09: 01
          +6
          Quote: Ardent
          How to transplant goats from one chair to another, and so they transplant

          So they are the same with party tickets
        2. Vanek
          Vanek 15 November 2012 09: 47
          +3
          Quote: Ardent
          It's not lads that "Aurora" should be removed from the fun!


          In the course, she will shoot more than once.

          Hello to everyone. hi
        3. military
          military 15 November 2012 11: 44
          0
          Quote: Ardent
          It's not lads that "Aurora" should be removed from the fun!

          will quickly sew on "extremism" laughing
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 08: 02
        +6
        Quote: SSI

        Q.E.D! The "fight" against corruption is in full swing!

        Hi Sergey, the struggle goes on, striding around the country. We have a traffic cop planted for a bribe of 2000 rubles. Immediately fired and in a pre-trial detention center. Not on that traffic cop married.
        1. military
          military 15 November 2012 11: 46
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The wrong cop was married.

          or not on that ... laughing
      3. klimpopov
        klimpopov 15 November 2012 08: 42
        +3
        Good With tongue removed. Indeed, as required.
    2. Optics
      Optics 15 November 2012 07: 49
      +3
      And who is she to be offended? Torgash? Fat man? .... In general, the media and government agencies are ashamed to even mention his name. And then insanity turns out:
      "The Minister of Defense screwed up, but he did everything right and well, so he screwed up well!"
      1. military
        military 15 November 2012 11: 47
        +1
        Quote: Optics
        "The Minister of Defense screwed up, but he did everything right and well, so he screwed up well!"

        laughing laughing ++++++++ this is not insanity, this is aphorism drinks
    3. sanyabasik
      sanyabasik 15 November 2012 10: 00
      +7
      Quote: Ardent
      Now we can go with our opinion ... well, you yourself know
    4. military
      military 15 November 2012 11: 42
      +2
      Quote: Ardent
      Which is understandable tepericha, with our opinion we can go ... well, you yourself know

      is it just "now" ...? rather "as always" ... feel
      and about "we can go" +++++ drinks
  3. zemlyak
    zemlyak 15 November 2012 07: 42
    0
    So, for what they fought ....
  4. vagrant
    vagrant 15 November 2012 07: 44
    +6
    Damn how they lifted up with their reassignments. As soon as they got so dirty right away at a different position. Just like in our Bulbandia. They asked none of the bureaucrats in full. But the hard worker will be rolled out in full. Now Russian Technologies will be covered with a couple of stools.
  5. nycsson
    nycsson 15 November 2012 07: 45
    +3
    Yeah! They won’t manage without it! He must be brought to justice, not appointed as an adviser! wassat I never cease to be surprised .......... wassat
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 08: 04
      +5
      Quote: nycsson
      Do not stop wondering .......

      Niksson, and why be surprised, he knows how to steal billions without leaving more than one signature. A valuable shot, now the Russian Technologies will get a kirdyk.
      1. sanyabasik
        sanyabasik 15 November 2012 08: 11
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Kirdyk will come to Russian Technologies.


        Kirdyk will come to the country .. hi
        And more and more people are beginning to understand ...
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 15 November 2012 08: 48
          +8
          Quote: sanyabasik
          Kirdyk will come to the country .. hi

          The country under the "stationary bandit"
          All that the authorities want to know about society is how much money is needed to pay off the poor and how to make them vote for themselves.
          07.08.2012
          http://www.novayagazeta.ru/politics/53867.html
          Here just the other day, Alfred Koch, a very subtle author, better known for his "sale of Russia", made a very accurate Facebook entry, deserving of a complete listing:
          "There is such a (rather well-known) concept of the state, which is called" the state as a stationary bandit. " The meaning of this concept is that the state is this kind of gang that seizes power over a certain people living in a certain territory. Once a gang discovers that it cannot expand its possessions: other gangs interfere. Then the gang begins to exploit "its" people. Very soon, she realizes that if she exploits the people too harshly, then the people either begin to die out or rise. Some reasonable measure of exploitation is established experimentally, when a gang takes away only that part of the added value that leaves the people enough money for expanded reproduction.
          1. rennim
            rennim 15 November 2012 10: 52
            +2
            I understood this a long time ago ... Therefore, I never voted for Benya, Teddy Bear and Vova ..
          2. military
            military 15 November 2012 11: 53
            0
            read
            Quote: nycsson
            "There is such a (rather well-known) concept of the state, which is called" the state as a stationary bandit. " The meaning of this concept is that the state is this kind of gang that seizes power over a certain people living in a certain territory. Once a gang discovers that it cannot expand its possessions: other gangs interfere. Then the gang begins to exploit "its" people. Very soon, she realizes that if she exploits the people too harshly, then the people either begin to die out or rise. Some reasonable measure of exploitation is established experimentally, when a gang takes away only that part of the added value that leaves the people enough money for expanded reproduction.

            and the head itself turns to the Kremlin ... feel
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 15 November 2012 09: 03
          +7
          Quote: sanyabasik
          And more and more people are beginning to understand ...


          Moses drove his 40 years while they understood. We also have enough tandem fans
          1. dimanf
            dimanf 15 November 2012 10: 13
            +2
            Sorry to be out of topic. They talked a lot about the "raids" on the Russian Orthodox Church.
            I wanted to publish an article, but moderators do not publish.
            The Bulgarian patriarch can be considered the standard of modesty and decency
            [10: 20 / 14.11.2012]

            The late Bulgarian patriarch Maxim bequeathed his modest property to the Synod of the Bulgarian Orthodox Church.

            On November 7, a special commission consisting of the metropolitans of Sliven Ioannikius and Plovdiv Nikolai and Bishop John of Znepol opened the testament of the deceased patriarch, which was drawn up in December 2011.

            The late patriarch did not have personal bank accounts, any savings, personal valuable items, or real estate.

            His property can only be called those items that he acquired with his own money: books, a Luch wristwatch and an old Continental typewriter, which he bought from a lawyer friend in 1968.

            The Mercedes, which Patriarch Maxim drove, was released 21 years ago.

            The ministers of the Sofia Metropolis said that all the time of his patriarchate he lived in a small room in the building of the Sofia Metropolis, the furnishings of which included a couch, an oak bureau, a bookcase and 3 chairs for visitors. He did not like squandering, so his table usually included modest dishes, and baked mackerel was considered the greatest delicacy.

            According to the bulletin, Patriarch Maxim received a salary of 680 levs (about 340 euros), of which he kept 100 for himself, and transferred the rest to an orphanage for visually impaired orphans in the Nadezhda quarter of Sofia. Patriarch Maxim has been donating money to this orphanage every month for almost 30 years.

            The office of the head of the Bulgarian Church kept a personal diary and archive of the predecessor of Patriarch Maxim - Bulgarian Patriarch Kirill (Konstantinov), which will soon be transferred to the Church and History Museum under the Bulgarian Patriarchate.

            So far, there is no information that Patriarch Maxim also kept a personal diary, and a rich archive of his many years of correspondence with various state and public figures will also be transferred to the Church History Museum.
            Why can't Gundyaev do this?
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 15 November 2012 10: 19
              +1
              dimanf,

              is it a minus from me, it doesn’t work out right it is necessary on the sly? Want to talk about this?
              1. dimanf
                dimanf 15 November 2012 10: 27
                +2
                Quote: vorobey
                is it a minus from me, it doesn’t work out right it is necessary on the sly? Want to talk about this?


                and what is there stealthily?
                show that the Patriarch can do without a choir, expensive cars and a pack of guards!
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 15 November 2012 10: 39
                  +3
                  Quote: dimanf
                  show that the Patriarch can do without a choir, expensive cars and a pack of guards!

                  I think here you are right !!
                  I saw in what conditions Ayatollah Sistani lives in Najef, the same Aytollahs in Iran live in shacks !!
                  And the Saudis in other Arab countries bathe in luxury !!
                  I think an interesting topic is whether those theologians who are getting richer in the soul of FAITH or are they still lyricism! ??
                  Do they have the right to speak of God and teach others compassion and goodness?
                2. vorobey
                  vorobey 15 November 2012 11: 12
                  +2
                  Quote: dimanf
                  and what is there stealthily


                  All the same, I want to talk, but modernization is not allowed? this is stealth.

                  read your comments on the topic and listen to the adventurous, but take a sober look at the topic. And then generally make an impression - just to poduda.
            2. vadimN
              vadimN 15 November 2012 13: 28
              +2
              Quote: dimanf
              Why can't Gundyaev do this?


              Because in our country the top of the Russian Orthodox Church has become a part of the system, and ensures the interests of the system ...
              However, let's leave religion alone! Everyone who has ears and eyes hears and sees what is happening in society and in the church as well. Everyone makes a conclusion and a choice for himself. My personal opinion is that instead of verbally chattering about the sins of the church, just vote with your soul and ... feet. If the church does not understand its mistakes, one day the people will answer this with emptiness in the temples. God is in everyone, and not everyone needs a paid provider to communicate with him!
              There has already been a lot of squabbles on the subject of the Russian Orthodox Church. Let's not even bite each other on this ground! I propose not to raise the theme of faith and the church!
            3. Nicotine 7
              Nicotine 7 15 November 2012 20: 17
              +1
              Among them there are also sometimes people with a conscience.
      2. nycsson
        nycsson 15 November 2012 08: 44
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        why be surprised

        I never cease to be surprised at the system of power or governing the country that the GDP created! This is just complete mess!
        Found an article in the topic:
        Russia has entered a decisive phase in the struggle of two power groups
        +5
        • Posted by Apolitikus • Yesterday, 17:12 • Views: 593 • Comments: 0 • Events
        Corruption scandals emerge in the press one by one. First, Serdyukov's Oboronservice, followed by the loss of funds from the APEC summit, and now they finally got to GLONASS and RKS, and now Sergei Ivanov makes a helpless gesture and pretends that he has just learned about the theft. It may seem that the country's leadership is trying to restore order by exposing obvious corruption schemes.

        Russia has entered a decisive phase in the struggle of two power groups

        However, no matter how one wishes to believe in it, this is not so. A decisive phase in the clan’s struggle has begun in the country, and the facts of corruption are used to remove one person and replace another person with another clan.

        Who is fighting whom? There are two large groups in Russia. The first is an industrial-power grouping, it includes former "red directors" who have taken over high-tech industries: the defense industry, aircraft construction, the space industry, the medical industry, and the production of components necessary for these industries. This clan is interested in a tough vertical of power and a strong country that will guarantee it high income, status and permanent orders. The same group includes the Russian bureaucracy, top and middle, which, without a sovereign Russia, will not have positions and a high position in society. This clan is personified and led by Putin.

        The second clan is the financial and raw materials group. These people are connected with the Yeltsin family, through financial relations they are tied to transnational financial and industrial corporations, they control raw materials and finances in Russia and are interested in that these raw materials are calmly and well sold abroad. They are also called liberal Westernizers, which is also very conditional, simply because their representatives are shaking white ribbons in the street, demanding democracy. Their representatives are "Nemtsovs", "Kasparovs" and "Kasyanovs". These people do not want a strong Russia, they see Russia as a raw material appendage of the West, and they would be safer if their business were guarded by American infantrymen, since a strong Russia is dangerous for them, in weak Russia they are kings. Therefore, they continue the line of Yeltsin, who turned Russia into a Western appendage, and therefore they are fighting for democracy, because in Western democracy, power in Russia will be in their hands, and not in the hands of industrial security officials.

        http://warfiles.ru/show-17707-rossiya-vstupila-v-reshayuschuyu-fazu-borby-dvuh-v
        lastnyh-gruppirovok.html
      3. Blackscorp
        Blackscorp 15 November 2012 11: 50
        0
        Alexander, I think there are signatures, but we will never see them ......
  6. Engrim
    Engrim 15 November 2012 07: 46
    +6
    Will there be an advisor on corruption technologies?
    1. Sokol peruna
      Sokol peruna 15 November 2012 07: 51
      +3
      Along the way, an adviser on the fight against embezzlement and corruption, a cut and a rollback. laughing
      1. Blackscorp
        Blackscorp 15 November 2012 11: 47
        0
        Rather, an advisor like "listen to what Tolya says and do it differently" and then you won't sleep laughing
    2. Jin
      Jin 15 November 2012 16: 10
      +1
      Quote: Engrim
      Will there be an advisor on corruption technologies?


      So it goes, they will definitely appoint! The blessing of worthy candidates, even put them in line! One is "more professional" than the other, eyes run wide! And there will certainly be a huge competition for the place! Well, for the kickback, they will appoint to the position the one who will surprise the most with the schemes of the proposed kickbacks! laughing In, where laughter through tears something !!!
  7. zol1
    zol1 15 November 2012 07: 50
    +1
    Tolya! Good luck in the further collapse and plunder! We are preparing a rope and soap.
    1. survivor
      survivor 15 November 2012 08: 14
      +1
      and better count and without Vaseline ....... angry
  8. Mosen6Ish
    Mosen6Ish 15 November 2012 07: 52
    +1
    I hope that I wouldn’t fall into the quiet?
    At the same time, he will master the technology of drying crackers, they will be useful to him ...
  9. merkel1961
    merkel1961 15 November 2012 07: 55
    -1
    And who is this “source?” They showed the rebellious Moscow, and in the background there were palm trees, and many lies and performances in the style of Radio Liberty and Hollywood were seen by the whole world more than once.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 08: 06
      +1
      Quote: merkel1961
      . Let's wait for the Kremlin’s official announcement.

      So far there has been no confirmation at the request of the news media, but they have not made any denials either.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 15 November 2012 09: 08
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        So far there has been no confirmation at the request of the news media, but they have not made any denials either.

        They won't hand over it anyway !!
        After all, they spent it with HONOR !!!
        Didn't even chide !!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 09: 42
          +4
          Quote: Yarbay

          They won't hand over it anyway !!

          Hi Alibek, I think you're right. Vomiting starts from the Kremlin and its out-of-court favorites.
          1. Jin
            Jin 15 November 2012 16: 13
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            He starts to vomit from the Kremlin and its out-of-jurisdictional favorites.


            I am amazed at your patience, Alexander! If you are just starting, I have been tearing for a long time !!!)))
      2. Denzel13
        Denzel13 15 November 2012 09: 49
        +2
        Last night, this news surfaced in Yandex, but when I tried to expand it, it showed that the file was missing.
        1. Jin
          Jin 15 November 2012 16: 15
          +1
          Quote: Denzel13
          but when I tried to expand it, it showed that the file was missing.


          This morning I read it, the link to the article worked. Found on Yandex in the news.
  10. vagrant
    vagrant 15 November 2012 07: 56
    +1
    They would have waited until the end of the investigation so that they could save their face, otherwise they began to get rid of the blow too zealously. The conclusion is drawn: everyone knew everything and were silent, but now we must quickly hide everyone
  11. IPSC-2008
    IPSC-2008 15 November 2012 07: 56
    +1
    http://top.rbc.ru/society/15/11/2012/825109.shtml
    The appointment has not yet been confirmed
    1. Aventurinka
      Aventurinka 15 November 2012 08: 58
      +1
      You all stubbornly do not want to see the obvious ... How easy it is to manipulate public opinion.
      Quote: IPSC-2008
      The appointment has not yet been confirmed

      Yesterday everything was so.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 15 November 2012 09: 49
        +4
        Julia, good day. This is exactly what happened. Serdyukov before his removal from office and was a member of the supervisory board. And after his removal from office, no one has excluded him from there yet, and nothing prevents him from holding this post.
        Its legal status has not changed yet, and we will look further.
        You plus
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 15 November 2012 17: 57
          +1
          Quote: vorobey
          And after his removal from office, no one has excluded him from there yet, and nothing prevents him from holding this post.


          Well, whoa ... what are you guys .. He stood OVER Chemezov as an observer of the distribution of assets and financial flows as chairman of the Supervisory Board as the head of the Ministry of Defense, and now he is appointed as an advisor to the same Chemezov (usually advisers in Russian Technologies lead their own projects or are involved or not involved as consultants on major transactions.) And the picture on the site will be removed, And not the fact that Shoigu will replace him, maybe it will be Rogozin, for example.

          Russian Technologies refuted information on the appointment of Serdyukov

          My webpage
  12. predator.2
    predator.2 15 November 2012 08: 01
    +1
    I envy the Chinese there with such a long time they do not stand on ceremony from place to place they do not move one road to the stadium and a public execution!
    1. Igor
      Igor 15 November 2012 08: 47
      -1
      They reassign bribe takers in the same way, some are shot, but only middle or low-level officials, and even then when it is necessary to show that the fight against corruption is being waged. A vivid example of this, when all the sins of Bo Xi Layot were attributed to his wife, and Chinese blogs you can read)))
  13. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 15 November 2012 08: 01
    +5
    There is an opinion (here - http://news.mail.ru/politics/10950518/?frommail=1) that for the time being Serdyukov has not yet been appointed - the appointment is only being discussed
    What is still sad. We need to discuss other issues - well, there, on the top panel or on the bottom ...
    1. survivor
      survivor 15 November 2012 08: 15
      +6
      with a bucket and a well-drilled spoon and bowl ...
    2. Aventurinka
      Aventurinka 15 November 2012 08: 19
      +1
      Quote: Aventurinka
      Serdyukov Anatoly Eduardovich
      Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation
      (Chairman of the Supervisory Board)
      http://www.rostechnologii.ru/management/2/
    3. military
      military 15 November 2012 12: 00
      +3
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      on the top dowel or on the bottom ...

      hike ... to the "cockpit" laughing
    4. Jin
      Jin 15 November 2012 16: 18
      +1
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      on the top dowel or on the bottom


      UNDER THE BOTTOM SHKONK, not otherwise! Well, or how the guys write ... also sensible options laughing
  14. predator.2
    predator.2 15 November 2012 08: 11
    +7
    Sister Serdyukov has found a property worth 700 million rubles (!?). A relative of the ex-official Anatoly Serdyukov owns three apartments in Moscow worth 700 million rubles and three more in St. Petersburg. According to information received at the disposal of the Izvestia newspaper, the prosecutor's office has initiated an investigation into the acquisition of elite real estate in the capital, owned by the sister of ex-Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, Galina Puzikova. The publication learned that a relative of the ex-official owns three apartments in Moscow worth 700 million rubles and three more in St. Petersburg, whose price has not been disclosed. According to official data, a woman's income in 2011 was only 240 thousand rubles. In the all-Russian register of entrepreneurs, A. Serdyukov's sister is registered as a vegetable grower. At the same time, the woman owns three firms associated with the auto business, and not a single agricultural asset. Izvestia learned that the husband of G. Puzikova Valery declared in 2011 an income of 81 million rubles. The entrepreneur, also engaged in road transport, owns 10 apartments in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Anapa, 12 land plots, five garages, four residential buildings, about 20 real estate objects on Fermskoye Highway in the Leningrad Region, 18 cars (among them are rare and modern ) and a boat. request
    1. Jin
      Jin 15 November 2012 16: 20
      0
      predator.2,

      Who would doubt that! I would be very surprised if it were otherwise)
  15. Yuri11076
    Yuri11076 15 November 2012 08: 13
    0
    Oh, how I got here, I'm afraid everything about nano technologies will now be made of wood just like stools ...
  16. JonnyT
    JonnyT 15 November 2012 08: 15
    +1
    Put everyone on the old ferry and send them on a tour of the exploration of the Arctic shelves !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tired of feeding thieves!
  17. Aventurinka
    Aventurinka 15 November 2012 08: 17
    +4
    I wrote yesterday
    a source close to the state corporation said on Wednesday.
    this is ridiculous.
    On the website of Russian Technologies I looked at how this "information" began to appear.
    Serdyukov Anatoly Eduardovich
    Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation
    (Chairman of the Supervisory Board)
    http://www.rostechnologii.ru/management/2/
    Until now, everything remains as it is.
    Questions:
    1. Why "Source", if everything on the site is quite specific.
    2. Why is the site still mines of defense.
    3. If he has already been appointed and even added to the site, then why in the position of min. defense.
    4. Has NONE of the journalists already thought of checking the information? And if you checked why they persistently refer to a certain "source".
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 15 November 2012 08: 52
      +5
      This, with the probability of 99,9%, is simply outdated information.
      The fact is that this post - the Chairman of the Supervisory Board - Serdyukov received in the already far November 2007 g
      BUT!
      There is a Federal Law of the Russian Federation from November 23 2007 of the year N270-ФЗ According to it (article 11)
      2. The Supervisory Board of the State Corporation "Russian Technologies" consists of nine members: four representatives of the President of the Russian Federation, four representatives of the Government of the Russian Federation, the General Director of the State Corporation "Russian Technologies", who is an ex officio member of the Supervisory Board.

      3. Members of the Supervisory Board of the State Corporation "Russian Technologies" are appointed by the President of the Russian Federation for a period not exceeding five years.

      In other words - 5 years Serdyukov in this position are over, and this time. And secondly, he is no longer a representative of the President or a representative of the Government, and therefore, it seems he cannot claim membership in the supervisory board.
      Everything is possible in my native fatherland, but I think that Rostekhnologii has just not updated the site yet :)))
      1. Aventurinka
        Aventurinka 15 November 2012 09: 02
        0
        Well, at least someone has received their sight ...
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Everything is possible in my native fatherland, but I think that Rostekhnologii has just not updated the site yet :)))

        That's exactly what I want to say - he was there for a long time. And they represent everything as if it has already been decided, but has not happened yet .. Who trumpeted this information and why, if he was already the chairman of the supervisory board? If it were really a source "close to Rostekhnologii" he would have said exactly that.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 15 November 2012 09: 05
      +3
      Quote: Aventurinka
      On the website of Russian Technologies I looked at how this "information" began to appear.

      Listen, if this information is confirmed tomorrow, what do you say ????
      You have supported Serdyukov's undertakings in everything before!
      Do you think the sites immediately write about such shitty appointments ???
      it is easy to play like you !!
      1. Aventurinka
        Aventurinka 15 November 2012 09: 23
        0
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        The fact is that this post - the Chairman of the Supervisory Board - Serdyukov received in the already far November 2007 g


        Quote: Yarbay
        Listen, if this information is confirmed tomorrow, what do you say ????

        Then it will make sense to say something.
        Quote: Yarbay
        You have supported Serdyukov's undertakings in everything before!

        Yeah?



        Yarbay I doubt that anyone will actually be jailed. It's not 10 thousand rubles that he stole and not 2 glazed curds.
        But there is nothing difficult in verifying information, and not using rumors. Why did not one of the TsTV channels say that Serdyukov had already held a position in Russian Technologies?
        I do not exclude that the position - an adviser - will be introduced just for him.
        But the whole situation is too ridiculous. And I'm trying to find someone who is in the know. In the meantime, everyone is just splashing emotions. With the exception of Andrei from Chelyabinsk, who at least explained something.
        Now there are new questions in connection with the found answers.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 15 November 2012 09: 29
          +3
          Quote: Aventurinka
          And I'm trying to find someone who knows what's going on

          I think people are annoyed-Impunity!
          Even you doubt that he will really be imprisoned !!
          That’s the trouble!
          If someone committed a crime on such a scale, he must be punished, but they will punish anyone, but not the one they consider their own!
          And with such leadership thinking, the country will not go far!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 09: 45
            +4
            Quote: Yarbay

            I think people are shaking-impunity!

            And still NAGLOSITY with which they steal nothing and in no way embarrassed.
          2. Jin
            Jin 15 November 2012 16: 24
            +1
            Quote: Yarbay
            I think people are shaking-impunity!


            Alibek, the song is in the subject!

            "Nobody will arrest him, mansions are growing, sidekicks to each other, they are sawing everything to a dime !!!"
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 15 November 2012 11: 00
        0
        Quote: Yarbay
        Quote: Aventurinka
        On the website of Russian Technologies I looked at how this "information" began to appear.
        Listen, if this information is confirmed tomorrow, what do you say ????
        You have supported Serdyukov's undertakings in everything before!
        Do you think the sites immediately write about such shitty appointments ???
        it is easy to play like you !!

        Why are you insulting Julia? She just gave the information she found on the Internet.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 15 November 2012 11: 08
          0
          Quote: baltika-18
          Why are you insulting Julia? She just gave the information she found on the Internet.

          In no case!!
          I hope she is not offended by me !!
  18. Per se.
    Per se. 15 November 2012 08: 18
    +2
    Apparently, we have a law for the people and for the FAMILY have different concepts. For the facts of such theft and sabotage, like goose water? Your deeds are wonderful, Lord ...
    1. sv-sakh
      sv-sakh 15 November 2012 08: 22
      0
      Yes, nothing surprising .. just pulled the rope, and she then led to the top ... So they decided not to pull further, otherwise the Pope will not be happy :)
      In this corruption scheme, if planted, then the entire Kremlin.
    2. Jin
      Jin 15 November 2012 16: 25
      +1
      Quote: Per se.
      Your deeds are wonderful, Lord ...


      Oh, it’s not the Lord God! Oh, not the Lord !!! (((
  19. Shum86
    Shum86 15 November 2012 08: 23
    +3
    The raven will not peck out the crow's eyes !!! well, or the hand washes a hand !!! while we have such representatives of the supreme authority (that is, the president and dumpling minister), here are such dumb-headed dol ... and they will occupy the highest positions in our Russia !!!! I'm in ah ... ye ((((( (((It’s better to end the world in nature than to bl .... to look and understand that here you are absolutely helpless and can’t change anything !!! Where are you Comrade Stalin ??? !!!
    1. PatriotizTAT
      PatriotizTAT 15 November 2012 08: 25
      +1
      Shum86How I understand you ... !!!
  20. PatriotizTAT
    PatriotizTAT 15 November 2012 08: 25
    +2
    So much for Putin ... everything else is superfluous!
    1. sanyabasik
      sanyabasik 15 November 2012 08: 30
      +7
      Quote: PatriotizTAT
      So much for Putin ... everything else is superfluous!


      ughhh (1) RU November 2, 2012 11:36

      "If Serdyukov is not imprisoned, I will stop believing in Putin.
      "

      lol
      1. Orik
        Orik 15 November 2012 10: 21
        +1
        And he does not care, poorly educated, women, officials are the key to success in the elections.
      2. Jin
        Jin 15 November 2012 16: 27
        +1
        Quote: sanyabasik
        I will stop believing Putin. "


        Do you still believe him? what
      3. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 15 November 2012 16: 49
        0
        And now do you believe? It's time to grow up. How much can you believe in children's fairy tales.
      4. Uncle
        Uncle 15 November 2012 22: 55
        0
        Quote: sanyabasik
        "If Serdyukov is not imprisoned, I will stop believing in Putin."

        They will not put me in prison, even if Serdyukov is appointed to this post, I will also stop trusting Putin.
  21. Mavsik
    Mavsik 15 November 2012 08: 30
    +1
    It was necessary to him in RUSNANO, adviser to the head.
  22. Blackscorp
    Blackscorp 15 November 2012 08: 33
    +3
    Now he will be appointed an advisor, he will cease to shine in the press and everyone will forget about him ... And the people are happy (the change of the Minister of Defense and the "fight against corruption") and "their" person has not suffered .... I'm tired of it, honestly: for the theft of a jar of cucumbers - 5 years, for theft of 3 + 1 billion rubles. -advisor .....
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 15 November 2012 22: 53
      0
      Quote: BlackScorp
      will cease to glow in the press and everyone will forget about it
      Exactly, some ancient sage said that the people have good hearing and sharp eyesight, but a very bad memory.
  23. kvv71
    kvv71 15 November 2012 08: 33
    +2
    If this is true, then there is still an order or a medal to give or a title .......
    1. sanyabasik
      sanyabasik 15 November 2012 08: 40
      0
      Quote: kvv71
      there is still an order or a medal to give


      They will give the order, now I have no doubt ..
      Is it really they not afraid of popular anger?
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 15 November 2012 08: 46
        0
        Quote: sanyabasik
        Are they not afraid of popular anger?

        Of course they’re not afraid .......
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 09: 49
        +3
        Quote: sanyabasik
        Are they not afraid of popular anger?

        the Russian people are divided, which is what they are using. If the people were united, then after such facts surfaced in the Ministry of Defense, half the country would take to the streets. But no, we all sit on the Internet, which they use. Sviridov was killed and thousands came out, only then vanity It began with power in a different way, only across the street and pillars. Fear of being overthrown quickly sets the brain.
        1. Uncle
          Uncle 15 November 2012 22: 52
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          the Russian people are divided, which they use.
          When my grandmother was alive, another grandmother wrote from Canada that our peas went up by 3%, and we went to a demonstration! I won’t talk about our life, you yourself know, but we are silent, we just correspond on the forum, at least thanks for that.
  24. nokki
    nokki 15 November 2012 08: 34
    +6
    If this is true, then this is just a spit in the face of Russia.
    1. Jin
      Jin 15 November 2012 16: 28
      +1
      Quote: nokki
      If this is true, then this is just a spit in the face of Russia.


      Plus! I said differently: Spit in the face of the citizens of Russia!
    2. Uncle
      Uncle 15 November 2012 22: 49
      0
      Quote: nokki
      If this is true, then this is just a spit in the face of Russia.
      If spitting on the supply of GDP, then I am greatly disappointed in it.
  25. older
    older 15 November 2012 08: 42
    -1
    Quote: Shum86
    Raven doesn’t peck out the crow !!! while we have such representatives of the supreme authority (that is, the president and the dumpling minister), here are such dumb-headed dol ... and they will occupy the highest positions in our Russia !!!! I'm in ah ... ye ((((( (((It’s better to end the world in nature than to bl ... to look and understand that here you are absolutely helpless and can’t change anything !!!

    I want to note that the end of the world will be only for us. FAMILY has a Yamatau.
  26. gispanec
    gispanec 15 November 2012 08: 44
    +2
    But I honestly am glad that even the patriots have no illusions about the whole gang of thieves. Promises were issued as manure on a collective farm, made - as in eternal unfinished, the whole country sits on kickbacks ... kindergartens-paid, schools-paid about VO generally keep quiet .... (. I have a son and so kindergartens and schools are asking for money) medicine paid and no! There is no social work, the people waited .... waited .... waited .... and waited for what now, it will begin with Serdyukov .... and further on the list, right up to Medvedev, yeah .... they got a spit .. ... thanks to our PEDROSSAMS with Putyatishna at the head !!!!
    Any decision on the former minister and his superior (Ch. Rules) if it is not criminal will be the beginning of the boiling point of the people. Authority auuuuuu .... hear? ..... you can't play like that in dreams .....
  27. Dimych
    Dimych 15 November 2012 08: 45
    0
    The investigation into the machinations in the sale of the "non-core" assets of the Ministry of Defense is acquiring more and more details. So, the investigation was interested in the deal on the sale of the complex of buildings of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "17th Central Design Institute of Communications of the Ministry of Defense", reports "Kommersan".

    The complex was a series of buildings (with a total area of ​​about 13 thousand square meters) and 3 hectares of land. By personal instruction of the former Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov, the 17th communications design institute, which in 2009 became a joint stock company, was sold for 17,9 million rubles. The market value of this non-core asset is 670 million rubles.

    Read full article: http://top.rbc.ru/society/15/11/2012/825109.shtml

    If this does not constitute grounds for landing, then what else is needed in this country for the triumph of justice?
  28. miland
    miland 15 November 2012 08: 48
    +1
    It seems that early we were happy about the removal of Taburetkin from the post of Minister of Defense ... And although, it has not been surprising me for a long time that the officials who are being removed from their former places are reassigned to other places where they continue to do their dirty work.
    It reminds me of my friend's business development story. They have a family business: an auto parts store and auto seris. The salaries are good, the social package, its own canteen, etc. In general, individual entrepreneurs take care of their employees. Basically, the father is in charge, and the son is after him in importance. Two sellers secretly decided to cut down the loot, namely, they presented the supplier with a fact: either you pay us extra or you will have low turnover (and his turnover is solid). When all this became clear (the son was on good terms with this supplier), then to the son's demand to fire these gouges, the father said: "Where will we find such specialists? And left them." Although they always have those who want to work.
  29. Igor
    Igor 15 November 2012 08: 55
    0
    Well, at least so, I thought I would increase lol

    On NTV, today the story was about the disposal of nuclear waste and that half of the lemon of the American presidents was stolen from this disposal, all the defendants got a criminal case. laughing
    1. Jin
      Jin 15 November 2012 16: 30
      +1
      Quote: Igorek
      On NTV, today the story was about the disposal of nuclear waste and that half of the lemon of the American presidents was stolen from this disposal, all the defendants got a criminal case.


      Well, what? They made me share the stolen, I probably didn’t want to do it in a good way, without trial)))
  30. zemlyak
    zemlyak 15 November 2012 08: 56
    0
    After all the gestures at the top, it seems that VVP was afraid of discontent and even the anger of the army by all the negative processes taking place both within the Armed Forces themselves and throughout the country. Whatever one may say, the army in the USSR, modern Russia, as it was a worker-peasant, and remained to her, the Red Army. The bowl was full and there was a rotation of personnel. The abscess burst, everyone was satisfied. Putin was satisfied with the fact that the army remained in the barracks, the Armed Forces with the fact that they had a new minister, and the fact that it was now possible to conduct a dialogue with the Ministry of Defense on the purchase of weapons. We were the losers. We were deceived again
    1. Blat
      Blat 15 November 2012 09: 08
      -7
      I only agree that the army was dissatisfied. But I was dissatisfied solely thanks to the generals. since the system that Serdyukov proposed did not allow stealing. and Serdyukov was removed as it was an emergency. The army will more than once regret that the Minister of Defense is not Serdyukov. and said a couple of days ago 2020 turned into 2030
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 15 November 2012 09: 38
        -1
        Quote: blat
        the system that Serdyukov offered did not allow stealing

        Yeah, no one except himself and others like him
        1. Blat
          Blat 15 November 2012 09: 49
          -5
          I don’t know how much he stole. It’s not my business. but the fact that an information war was going on against Serdyukov because he was disliked by the generals is a fact. just if you criticize him then put on the scales what good he did and what was bad. make mistakes even while pursuing the good intentions. war was declared against him, and most of it went away. they immediately wanted from a small big. Putin therefore kept him to the last. but the generals from hunger became too dangerous. now it will be the old way. generals will steal, and the army is personnel
          to be honest. I'm violet who is your defense minister. that's just what I think to myself.
          1. Denzel13
            Denzel13 15 November 2012 10: 58
            +3
            blat, amused! Read carefully the posts of the military, of which there are many here on the site, they say a lot about what "good" Serdyukov did for the army. And about the system he proposed that "... does not allow stealing" - this is generally a gem, a quote of the day!
            1. Blat
              Blat 15 November 2012 11: 23
              -5
              in my opinion, and wrote. that the lower classes were eating all this at the suggestion of their generals. and how unpleasant, but you can state the fact that the lower classes were again used by the upper classes. you can have fun as much as you want. usually understanding from such people who do not see beyond their nose comes too late. the removal of Serdyukov is a common tactical move. and all this is called politics. just thought it would be cheaper for the generals to steal than to lose everything
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 09: 50
        +1
        Quote: blat
        But I was unhappy solely thanks to the generals. Since the system that Serdyukov proposed did not allow stealing.

        Himself is not funny?
  31. iulai
    iulai 15 November 2012 09: 03
    0
    Russia has little good ahead - we cannot find a normal, honest specialist to replace the Minister of Defense, to replace the adviser to the head of Rostekhnologii. why someone is not appointed to leadership positions, so it turns out to be a thief! but Putin was warned that the process will be irreversible.
  32. nycsson
    nycsson 15 November 2012 09: 22
    -1
    I recommend to read:
    Some results of the reform of the Armed Forces
    Billions spent, but the prestige of the military profession has not increased
    Alexander Rukshin

    http://warfiles.ru/show-17680-podvedeny-itogi-reform-serdyukova.html
    The VPK weekly continues on its pages the theme of army reform. The author of this article took an active part in the compilation of the monograph “Reforms in a circle or money down the drain”, published by graduates and teachers of the Military Financial and Economic University.
  33. Averias
    Averias 15 November 2012 09: 22
    0
    Well, now Rostekhnologii is being modernized in full. Shas quickly Yudashkin will develop a uniform, we will buy something especially "technological" from the French at double the price, they are the French, oh what technological. Then the buildings are not "needed" under the hammer. It is, of course, the scale is not the same, well, nothing, it's fixable. Will begin to demand an increase in the budget of "Rostekhnologii" 4 times as it was in the "Ministry of Defense".
  34. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 15 November 2012 09: 28
    +1
    maybe you should wait for confirmation and then break the spears?
    1. Averias
      Averias 15 November 2012 09: 33
      +1
      At first I thought it was misinformation. That the media broke the news from the lantern. But what would be on all the news feeds. God grant that this would be misleading.
    2. tun1313
      tun1313 15 November 2012 09: 36
      +1
      The worst thing is that it came to the point that you believe in it right away.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2012 09: 52
      +1
      Quote: Ragnarek

      maybe you should wait for confirmation and then break the spears?

      Where is the refutation? Taking into account the resonance, it should be, but it is not - why?
  35. tun1313
    tun1313 15 November 2012 09: 32
    +2
    It is sad, expected, but sad ... The feeling that you are not worth more, they threw the bone and okay. Doesn't work anymore. Nda .... Once again I am convinced that we are afraid of no one besides ourselves.
  36. Slevinst
    Slevinst 15 November 2012 09: 46
    0
    We have few smart people? or very few people without soap in the well ... can climb
  37. understudy
    understudy 15 November 2012 09: 49
    +3
    "... Ilya Faber is accused of extortion and causing damage to the Moshensky House of Culture. The court sentenced the former director to 8 years in prison in a strict regime colony and a fine of 3 million 200 thousand rubles. According to the investigation, in July-August 2011 Farber received 300 thousand rubles from a businessman in exchange for permission to continue repairs in the house of culture.And in September of the same year, the businessman gave him another 132,6 thousand, after which Farber signed an acceptance certificate for work that was not carried out in full. After receiving a bribe, the director of the Moshensky House of Culture was detained ... "(c)
    Well, the classic case in the Urals with the condemnation of a father with many children who caught 3 kilograms of carp with a net has somehow been forgotten ... As well as the persecution of a school director who used counterfeit software for a local network.
    ______________________________________
    In short, we are all honest. Not one criminal will escape the harsh punishment of the Law and its prophets abroad ... the most just, honest and impartial judges with prosecutors.
    Ugh! fool
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 15 November 2012 22: 46
      0
      As it seems Ostap Bender said, stealing a chicken is a crime, and stealing a million is a state policy.
  38. virm
    virm 15 November 2012 10: 04
    +2
    "STATEMENT of Colonel V.V. Kvachkov in connection with the beginning of the trial."
    http://shturmnovosti.com/view.php?id=47700

    ---
    .. The Russian and other indigenous peoples of Russia are in a state of necessary defense against the invasion of tens of millions of immigrants who have actually seized Russian cities, including the capital of our homeland, Moscow. Therefore, an uprising against the power of national traitors in the form of an armed rebellion under current conditions is an act of lawful and necessary social behavior, and all Russians, regardless of their profession and social status, have the right to the necessary defense.
    ...
    The establishment in Russia of the role of the Russian and other indigenous peoples as the bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power, as indicated in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, will inevitably require a certain risk associated with the use of weapons against national traitors and foreign invaders. However, such a risk in this situation is quite reasonable.
    ...
    General conclusion: under the current conditions, participation in an armed rebellion, as in the form of a popular uprising against tyranny and oppression, is not a crime, but the duty of every citizen of Russia.

    The Russian Revolution is inevitable!

    I have the honor.

    Colonel Kvachkov.
    ---
    1. vadimN
      vadimN 15 November 2012 13: 41
      +1
      By their actions (and inaction), the rulers themselves push the people into the ranks of the followers of Kvachkov!
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 15 November 2012 22: 44
        0
        Quote: vadimN
        By their actions (and inaction), the rulers themselves push the people into the ranks of the followers of Kvachkov!

        Quote: vadimN
        By their actions (and inaction), the rulers themselves push the people into the ranks of the followers of Kvachkov!
        Precisely, the people do not want a civil war, but soon there will be no other way out. Lord, save Russia !!!
  39. vorobey
    vorobey 15 November 2012 10: 14
    +4
    gentlemen, Aventurinka is trying to reach you. to adequately weigh everything, and you rely on rumors to bend your own.

    18 July 2012.

    The President and the Head of the Government of the Russian Federation have reshuffled the supervisory bodies of the two largest state corporations in Russia. As a result, Rostekhnologii remained controlled by Vladimir Putin, and Vnesheconombank remained under the control of Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.

    In fact, when the supervisory board of Rostekhnologii was renewed, all former heads of departments who had held their posts under Dmitry Medvedev were removed from it. Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, who retained his post after the election of President Vladimir Putin, remained the chairman. Elvira Nabiullina, who previously served as the minister of economic development and now as an assistant to the president, remained on the council. Also, for the first time, another assistant to the head of state, Yuri Ushakov, entered the structure.


    I will repeat so far nothing prevents him from occupying this post, since his procedural status in Oboronservis has not changed. After the meeting of the board of the state corporation, this post may be taken by another.
    1. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 15 November 2012 13: 00
      0
      This is the most correct judgment, supported by facts, There is an invisible fuss around significant places in the state, It was two formations of those in power, It was noticeable immediately after the elections, In fact, these incomprehensible movements in the vertical of power sometimes stumped, But they practically fit into such appointments, There is a struggle for the possession of influence,
    2. Aventurinka
      Aventurinka 15 November 2012 15: 21
      0
      Good day.
      To be honest, I don’t understand ... why this information passed so easily.
      Initially, I assumed two options (provided that it was just stuffing) - either they check the reaction to any kind of appointment of the discussed person, or someone did not like the rising rating of the authorities amid the sound of a wave of general jubilation over the resignation of the discussed one.
      In view of the long silence with the refutation, I am beginning to lean more and more towards the version of checking for a reaction ...
    3. Ascetic
      Ascetic 15 November 2012 21: 24
      +3
      Quote: vorobey
      I will repeat so far nothing prevents him from occupying this post, since his procedural status in Oboronservis has not changed. After the meeting of the board of the state corporation, this post may be taken by another.


      This is not a board of directors in an ordinary company.
      The purpose of the activities of the State Corporation "Russian Technologies" is to promote the development, production and export of high-tech industrial products by providing support in the domestic and foreign markets of Russian organizations - developers and manufacturers of high-tech industrial products, organizations in which State corporation By virtue of the prevailing participation in their authorized capital and in accordance with the agreements concluded between them, or in any other way, Russian Technologies has the ability to influence decisions taken by these organizations (hereinafter referred to as organizations of the State Corporation Russian Technologies), as well as by attracting investments in organizations of various industries industry, including the military-industrial complex.


      All appointments and reshuffles there are carried out by presidential decree and government decree, as well as the transfer of assets of companies belonging to the corporation. At least check Wiki. And with regards to Serdyukov, he has not yet surrendered the position, only "Cheget" with operators for Shoigu has passed.
      Even Shoigu has not been introduced into the Security Council yet, Only Gerasimov by today's Presidential Decree. That again, in front of the locomotive, everything is running ... Wait for the corresponding Decrees

      "There are currently no documents or other official instructions regulating the status of AE Serdyukov as an advisor to the general director or an employee of the State Corporation" Russian Technologies "," the press service of the state corporation said.


      My webpage.
      1. Aventurinka
        Aventurinka 16 November 2012 08: 23
        +3
        Ascetic but that's not the point. That's all that you are writing now (and a little higher too) and should have been discussed in the comments to this article, excluding emotions, which make up 90% of all comments. Compare facts, search for documents.
        And the fact is that a bunch of adults, sane people simply fell for the stuffing.
        And now ... Thank you for the information.
  40. dmb
    dmb 15 November 2012 10: 25
    +4
    Well, you guys attacked the "naive Chukchi guys". Or maybe they sincerely believed that Putin is the savior of the Fatherland, that Medvedev is a wise leader, and Serdyukov did not sleep, did not eat, but only thought about the country's defense? And it is not easy to part with faith in a bright future. And there is such an affront, some billions, pictures. One involuntarily wants to believe that the leader really was not on courses, and that the minister appointed by him also hails from Chukotka, or he was deceiving the kind, naive and stupid king. I really don't know which is worse: a thief king or a stupid king. Well, about the evidence, that's right. It is impossible to judge a person without proof. But I am sure that in their absence no one would have initiated proceedings and would not have expelled Serdyukov from the ministers.
    1. rennim
      rennim 15 November 2012 10: 56
      0
      They say ... like Serdyukov himself resigned ... like no one kicked out ...
    2. Jin
      Jin 15 November 2012 16: 34
      0
      Quote: dmb
      I really don't know which is worse: a thief king or a stupid king.


      I think the clever king-thief is worse)))
  41. thatupac
    thatupac 15 November 2012 10: 55
    -1
    Well done Serdyukov. He didn't get dirty in a corruption scandal, but with money and a good place. I would be so. But I, unlike Serdyukov, am too low on the social ladder. Which hits me hard. Yes crying ...
  42. Nechai
    Nechai 15 November 2012 11: 14
    +1
    Quote: Homo
    It must be kept nearby, in a position that does not provide for leaving the hill.

    Ay, brost Putin is NOT Stalin and Serdyukov is NOT Yezhov ...
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And it will not sink, the country is ruled by a caste of the untouched.

    Exactly! This caste and the Union was falling apart, and the state system FORCEDLY CHANGED. Where is there at least one PERSONALLY APPROVED document in which the people have spoken out FOR THE CAPITALIST WAY OF DEVELOPMENT ?! Private property and public property are NOT antagonistic forms of property, but SUPPLEMENTATION of each other! And we are constantly being told that officials cannot effectively manage the nationwide community. AND THEREFORE (?!?!?!) It is necessary to transfer it into private (THEM !!!) hands. Then everyone will be happy. The list of these ALL is very limited.
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    The fear of being overthrown quickly sets the brain down.

    This and only this. And boundless arrogance instantly turn into the same FEAR! Poor dudushka Kvachkov, for just talking about uprising anyway, but they will be sued indefinitely. For it is scary what he says for them ...
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 15 November 2012 22: 42
      0
      Quote: Nechai
      And it will not sink, the country is ruled by a caste of the untouched.
      Exactly, got "in the cage", do whatever you want, nothing is scary, maximum resignation with transfer to a quiet position. There is no truth in this world !!!
  43. tun1313
    tun1313 15 November 2012 11: 32
    -1
    B ... c. There is nothing more to discuss.
  44. Flooding
    Flooding 15 November 2012 11: 38
    0
    Quote: Nechai
    This and only this. And boundless arrogance instantly turn into the same FEAR! Poor dudushka Kvachkov, for just talking about uprising anyway, but they will be sued indefinitely. For it is scary what he says for them ...

    Maybe the initial goal of the reform was not to strengthen the country's defense capability, but to prepare the army to fight internal unrest while reducing its effectiveness in confronting an external enemy?
  45. fantast
    fantast 15 November 2012 12: 06
    +8
    I want to wish these guys master space ... am
  46. Bigriver
    Bigriver 15 November 2012 12: 27
    +2
    I am very interested, WHO needed this stuffing of information on the new appointment of the Stool?
    Who needed, for example, dozens of smart guys here to start dancing angry dances?
    Where did Interfax go: ((Mother dear crying
  47. maestro123
    maestro123 15 November 2012 12: 42
    +3
    All the same, Serdyukov will always find his 12th chair, or he will be given a place at the request of the leadership from above, and many would suggest this emu as "the best"
    1. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 15 November 2012 13: 18
      +2
      Quote: maestro123
      Serdyukov will always find his 12th chair,

      will not find 12th - will do 13th
  48. Bender
    Bender 15 November 2012 13: 15
    +2
    and what kind of source? and if this is true, then it's time to remember the feat of Minin and Pozharsky!
  49. maestro123
    maestro123 15 November 2012 13: 54
    +1
    Bender,
    On the running line of Ren, there was such infa yesterday too.
    1. Bender
      Bender 15 November 2012 14: 17
      0
      Thank you for your answer! But if so, then there are no words, only emotions!
  50. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 15 November 2012 14: 57
    +3
    And here is another news topic
    The source of the Russian News Service explained that the former defense minister could not be appointed anywhere while the investigation of the Oboronservis case was going on. He also did not rule out that in the near future, Anatoly Serdyukov could be questioned in the Investigation Committee.
    Read more: http://vpk-news.ru/news/13175
    1. Jin
      Jin 15 November 2012 16: 47
      0
      Andrey from Chelyabinsk,

      it would be nice if only so!