Western press: As soon as the Ukrainian conflict ends, the US and Russia will realize that they are united by many goals regarding China

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Western press: As soon as the Ukrainian conflict ends, the US and Russia will realize that they are united by many goals regarding China

Containment of Russia and China should be the main goal of US foreign policy, since the rapprochement of these countries poses a threat to Washington. This is written by the American magazine The American Conservative (TAC).

According to the author of the publication and editor of the magazine Michael Warren Davis, not only the United States itself, but even Russia is very interested in containing China. For this reason, the author of the book Reactionary Thinking believes, Russia is striving to unite with the PRC against the States.



The material also confirms the similarity in the opinions of other analysts regarding the power of these two countries. Together, they can really give a tough rebuff to all NATO member countries, and therefore, Washington has been entrusted with the mission of separating them. The author of the material suggested his own scenario for the development of events: the United States contributes to the establishment of peace (in their understanding, presumably) in Ukraine, preventing further expansion of the alliance to the east by joining states neighboring the Russian Federation, while Kyiv makes concessions on the issue of recognition Crimea and Donbass as Russian territories. At the same time, a condition is also put forward for Moscow to pay reparations to Kyiv.

Here is how Davis commented on his vision of the situation:

As soon as the Ukrainian conflict ends, the United States and Russia immediately realize that they have many common goals regarding China.

In conclusion, the TAC columnist notes that in fact, Beijing is much more dangerous for Washington and Moscow than Russia and the United States are for each other.
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  1. +9
    8 February 2023 10: 04
    Western press: As soon as the Ukrainian conflict ends, the US and Russia will realize that they are united by many goals regarding China
    Schaub THIS "realize", you need ONE who can do this, ready to "realize" !!!
    The question is ... WHAT IS THIS ??? WHY DON'T WE KNOW THIS???
    Stripes or impudent, are they preparing some kind of muddy again?
    However, it’s not difficult to guess that they are preparing something similar, but we have such prerequisites, something similar is observed ??? Who is being prepared for the role of "CONSCIOUSNESS" this time?
    So the next election of the "king / leader" is not far away, preparations are in full swing !!!
    It is necessary to take a closer look, Schaub not to miss, not to overlook and STOP, Schaub some kind of "consciousness" did not climb to the top!
    1. +11
      8 February 2023 10: 05
      Probably, as they think, with the help of the conditional Navalny in power after the conflict. In any case, they are counting on it. But do we need it?

      Containment of Russia and China should be the main goal of US foreign policy, since the rapprochement of these countries poses a threat to Washington.


      According to the author of the publication and editor of the magazine Michael Warren Davis, not only the United States itself, but even Russia is very interested in containing China.


      Russia is being held back by the United States, but at the same time, Russia's interests in containing China together with the United States? This is a complete violation of elementary logic. Russia and China are interested in containing the United States with its hegemony.
      1. +4
        8 February 2023 10: 29
        with the help of conditional Navalny in power after the conflict. In any case, they are counting on it

        proverb of a street sharper: life is bad without a sucker. Navalny's path is the most cost-effective way for the United States to bring Russia to its knees, or better, under arms against China
        1. +6
          8 February 2023 13: 03
          We definitely should not get close to the Anglo-Saxons, these intriguers and parasites of the earth never tell the truth and only want the destruction of Russia!
        2. +1
          9 February 2023 05: 10
          First, with the Navalner and to plunder everything in the Russian Federation, as under Ebn-e, and then say that this is all because of China and play off in the war, "for universal sensibilities", while loudly "supporting the conflict" from behind a puddle ... I hope , this will not happen again.
      2. +1
        8 February 2023 17: 41
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        Russia is restrained by the United States, but at the same time, Russia's interests are in containing China together with the United States?

        This is the dream of the Anglo-Saxons for the last 20+ years - to force Russia to fight China, and get the whole world out of it, while getting rid of competitors.
        And to buy Russia for recognizing Crimea and Donbass for it, but at the same time hanging on it all the costs of restoring Ukraine (reparations), this is generally a masterpiece. The logic of the bazaar divorce multiplied by Khutspu. lol
        But this testifies to one thing - the hegemon is burning with deadlines, the elections in the USA are on the nose, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are losing by the summer ... well, let them be completely bled and destroyed by the middle or end of the summer. injections with Western weapons will not save - there is simply no time to train the mobilized population to replace those exterminated at the fronts, there is no time to train military specialists (crews of tanks, artillery systems, etc.), there is no time to prepare NATO equipment for the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - it is knocked out faster than compensation .
        And at the same time, China is STRENGTHENING, building positional areas for its HEAVY ICBMs (an approximate analogue of our "Well done"), in which there are already more launchers than the United States has their "Minutemen", the Ocean Fleet is being built, the army is being rearmed, and the ECONOMY is GROWING. And the Chinese economy is becoming more and more self-sufficient in technology.
        And China has already REALIZED what fate the Anglo-Saxons have prepared for it.
        And, oddly enough, even (!) in Russia, our wonderful Russian elites began to guess about their fate in case of a loss. The very ones who are constantly "deceived" and "thrown".
        And if the crooks were uncovered, disavowed, then what?
        Normal boys should have only ONE thing - "Piss of goats !!" .
        And the US needs ... a truce. For the sake of elections. For your own respite. For the sake of trying to re-recruit the Kremlin for a future war with China.
        So the "trial balloons" rolled.
    2. +14
      8 February 2023 10: 32
      I remember in the 90s we already had common goals with the United States and the collective West laughing It didn't lead to anything good. So we do not need common goals with the United States.
      1. -2
        8 February 2023 11: 33
        Quote: Wend
        I remember in the 90s we already had common goals with the United States and the collective West

        This is an ordinary political trick - to split the camp of the enemy. We are doing this, they are doing this, the Chinese are doing this. The recipe for the weak is not to rush between the strong. Otherwise, the strong will rip you off "like sticky." And Russia today is weak. We barely start to get up from our knees in our swamp, and immediately we fall knee-deep deeper. To get up from your knees, there must be at least some kind of foundation under your feet. And he is not. There is no clear ideology. The entire state structure rests on a flimsy "vertical". Leave suddenly Putin, and immediately starts to sausage. The weak have only one choice - the choice of one of the strong. And do not rush between them. And whether to become strong yourself is another question.
        And China, as an honest person (if), is simply obliged to erect monuments to Russia and Ukraine.
        1. -1
          8 February 2023 15: 34
          Of course, you may live in a swamp, but I won’t believe it in the mountains, and this is also Russia. Are you saying we have a problem? Yes, there are, so the USSR also had them, I can lay out a pack for you, although I have nothing against it, and the Russian Empire, do not believe it, also had problems.
          Only ambitious people have no problems, and the fact that the United States is a strong state, yes. The fact that it is weakening, too, yes. The fact that Akela missed the whole world saw 9 years ago Relations with China, ignoramus, doesn’t look like vassalage, but in the States it’s such rhetoric that I’m in charge here and near the bird in English.
          1. 0
            8 February 2023 18: 20
            Of course, you may live in a swamp, but I won’t believe it in the mountains, and this is also Russia.
            wink Yes, someone lives on a mountain, and even, quite possibly, the king of his mountain. Yes, almost all industry was in a swamp, especially the production of means of production.
            Do you think you can sit there on your mountain? Nope! Will not work. And the mantra that "the rich also cry" will not help. And beating a felt boot in the chest will not save. You can, of course, try to sing: "And the rest, beautiful marquise, ...".
            By the way, my life experience suggests that the kings of their mountains are the first to surrender, and with all the giblets. hi
        2. +1
          8 February 2023 22: 09
          There is no intelligible economy, not an ideology ... Ideology is visible - the war against fascism / Nazism / Satanism ... but this is for suckers, their ideology is money from wherever you can get it, and then they go to the West to work against us ( (( Theater?
    3. +1
      8 February 2023 10: 43
      . It is necessary to take a closer look, Schaub not to miss, not to overlook and STOP, Schaub some kind of "consciousness" did not climb to the top!

      I feel such an awareness-werewolf will not live long. With him, for sure, the people will get even. Moreover, this can happen so quickly that the invaders do not really have time to smear the skis with wax, as democracy crushes them with a lump.
      1. +1
        8 February 2023 10: 56
        I have heard many times that the people will not allow this, they will not allow this, they will get even with someone. The result - everything was allowed and all those erased into dust are alive and well. Whoever is put on the throne will sit and we will not do anything about it.
        1. 0
          8 February 2023 11: 02
          The first was Yeltsin, we were gullible, the second was Putin, if the third turns out to be a werewolf, "the war will show the plan." But the fact that he will not die, that's for sure
        2. -1
          8 February 2023 15: 36
          Of course, you won’t do anything, but soldiers will return from the front, can you tell them how to intimidate them? How to threaten such people that they did not see?
    4. 0
      8 February 2023 11: 02
      Until the complete VICTORY there should be no elections.
      Horses are not changed at the crossing. (old folk wisdom)
    5. +3
      8 February 2023 13: 46
      "According to the author of the publication and editor of the magazine Michael Warren Davis, not only the United States itself, but even Russia is very interested in containing China."
      ************************************************** ****************************************
      So to speak...

      "Expert" Michael, get up, "for starters," off the potty. Put on your pants and read the papers...

      Russia's "interest" in containing threats was clearly formulated by Russia itself at the end of 2021. And, by Russia itself, OBJECTIVELY justified.

      With the transfer of these Russian demands to the "master of the West" - the United States and NATO - both to the "collective" body and to each "member" of this relic of the Cold War individually ...
  2. +14
    8 February 2023 10: 04
    And on the other hand, the border between China and the Russian Federation is land, the demand for resources from China is greater than from the EU. There are no transit countries. China is a manufacturer of equipment and technologies of interest to the Russian Federation, which means that the Yuan currency is interesting for the Russian Federation as a means of payment (unlike the Dollar and the Euro).
    1. +4
      8 February 2023 10: 20
      Yuan currency is interesting for Russia

      We have come. From the beginning of "perestroika" they prayed to the West, now to the East ...
      Uncle Joe (Stalin) lowered the dollar to 65 kopecks and used internal resources, and the current "economists" still do not know what to attach to. It would be better if a couple of zeros were removed from the bill.
      By the way, the yuan is tied to the dollar in a dead loop.
      1. +5
        8 February 2023 10: 36
        Comrade Stalin and the USSR could not oppose the dollar (as a reserve currency) with anything ..... and did not even make the Ruble the currency of Eastern Europe.
        And Yuan-da is tied, but:
        1. Transactions go directly to RF-China
        2. The yuan is provided with goods for which there are no restrictions on export to the Russian Federation, and China itself is an alternative (in some ways more, in some ways less progressive in comparison with the West) source of technology for the Russian Federation. And the Russian Federation has a clear deficit and a great demand for industrial technologies and, at the same time, an excess of money for their purchase.
        1. +2
          8 February 2023 10: 48
          Quote: Zaurbek
          Comrade Stalin and the USSR could not oppose the dollar (as a reserve currency) with anything ..... and did not even make the Ruble the currency of Eastern Europe.

          What kind of nonsense is that? Google on request "transferable ruble", "CMEA countries". It can be said that a third of the developed world used the ruble and not the dollar. In settlements with the countries of the "third world", the dollar was also practically not used.
          1. +2
            8 February 2023 10: 53
            The dollar was recognized as the main currency under Stalin, and under Khrushchev, the detachment from gold was recognized .... and then the gentlemen began to get lucky. I remember about the Ruble, but the topic was not developed. Energy trade has always been in the dollar ..... And this, in the first place, prevented the use of such a ruble in trade with Germany, for example.
            1. 0
              8 February 2023 11: 11
              Quote: Zaurbek
              Energy trading has always been in the Dollar....

              Not only energy, trade with developed capital. countries has always been in dollars. To put it very simply, settlements with countries dependent on the United States were carried out in the currency of which the United States issued, and settlements with countries dependent on the USSR were carried out in the currency of which the USSR issued.
              Quote: Zaurbek
              I remember about the Ruble, but the topic was not developed.

              The topic was killed along with the USSR, in the 90s the Russian Federation fell under the United States, killing its own currency and not only.
          2. 0
            8 February 2023 11: 10
            Transferable CMEA rubles did not appear under Stalin, but much later. Under Stalin, the CMEA was still a decorative structure, it was in its infancy. Khrushchev, whom you do not like, did a lot to deepen integration and specialization within the CMEA. But the development of specialization within the CMEA caused dissatisfaction among the Albanians and Romanians. The Albanians were unhappy with Khrushchev's proposal to focus on agriculture, primarily the production of citrus fruits and other fruits, and tourism. And the leadership of Romania, out of principle, wanted to develop a diversified economy, to produce as many products as possible on its own.
            1. -3
              8 February 2023 11: 21
              Quote: Sergej1972
              Under Stalin, the CMEA was still a decorative structure, it was in its infancy.

              Of course, there was a "redistribution of the world" following the results of the Second World War. The "Socialist camp" began to take shape.
              Quote: Sergej1972
              Khrushchev, whom you do not like, did a lot to deepen integration and specialization within the framework of the CMEA.

              My attitude to Khrushchev, as well as to Stalin or Brezhnev, is much more complicated than love or dislike.)))
      2. -2
        8 February 2023 10: 39
        Quote from Egeni
        We have come. From the beginning of "perestroika" they prayed to the West, now to the East ...

        Ek you softly.))) Since the 90s, the state of the Russian Federation has consistently fought for the right to become a raw material appendage of the West, today it is also consistently fighting for the right to become a raw material appendage of China.))) It is about becoming a self-sufficient state with a developed industry As it did not go in the 90s, it does not go now. More precisely, they say speeches, especially before the elections, but they don’t do the job.
        1. 0
          8 February 2023 12: 09
          Since the 90s, the state of the Russian Federation has consistently fought for the right to become a raw material appendage of the West

          There is a contradiction between the struggle to become a raw materials appendage and the NWO. Not everything is so linear.
          1. -1
            8 February 2023 20: 49
            Quote: IvanIvanov
            There is a contradiction between the struggle to become a raw materials appendage and the NWO. Not everything is so linear.

            Of course, not everything is so linear.))) The bourgeoisie of the Russian Federation eventually got stronger and entered into competition with European corporations in Ukraine (google Ukrainian property of Russian oligarchs on request).
        2. -1
          8 February 2023 15: 53
          Well, all the same, you are wrong, it is easiest to sell raw materials, but only the United States and the Russian Federation have the ability to erase the whole world into dust, isn't this too much for a raw material appendage?
          1. -3
            8 February 2023 20: 53
            Quote: Alexander Salenko
            Well, all the same, you are wrong, it is easiest to sell raw materials, but only the United States and the Russian Federation have the ability to erase the whole world into dust, isn't this too much for a raw material appendage?

            Nuclear weapons of the Russian Federation, these are just those "galoshes" that the Russian Federation inherited from the USSR. ))) And the USSR was an industrialized power, so there is no contradiction here.
    2. +2
      8 February 2023 10: 24
      The border is long, there are few roads to fight Russia with China, well, it’s quite difficult, and it’s fair for both sides.
      Transport connectivity in those parts is POOR.
      In a word, there are many reasons to trade - there are few reasons to fight and it is difficult.
      1. -5
        8 February 2023 11: 36
        Quote: saigon
        In a word, there are many reasons to trade - there are few reasons to fight and it is difficult.

        Say trade.))) China, as well as the West, does not need us as a full-fledged economic and political partner, we are needed only as a raw material base and a politically dependent semi-colony, nothing more.
        1. 0
          8 February 2023 12: 11
          YES to the West, therefore we have a war in Ukraine, China at the moment needs an ally much more than a colony.
          1. -4
            8 February 2023 14: 53
            Quote: IvanIvanov
            China right now needs an ally more than a colony.

            If you look closely at our economic relations with China, you will see that China's alliance with the Russian Federation is about the same as that of a cat with a sausage.)))
            Quote: IvanIvanov
            YES to the West, so we have a war in Ukraine,

            If the Russian Federation continued to remain totally dependent on the United States, then we would get a war with China. The trouble with the current Russian Federation is that even today it is not an independent player, which is not surprising with a raw material model of the economy.
  3. +5
    8 February 2023 10: 05
    This is such a thick hint to our officials - hey, mongrels, get ready - we will buy you! We won’t give much, but for the glory of democracy, don’t be too hard on yourself there. And the most interesting thing is that most will sell.
    1. 0
      8 February 2023 10: 33
      Some probably, but I don't think most. If all the mutts were so stupid, they would be the same with us ... just kneaded. And we knead different
  4. +14
    8 February 2023 10: 05
    Worse than the war with the impudent Saks and Amers, perhaps, is only friendship with them, especially against China.
    1. DDR
      +3
      8 February 2023 10: 23
      Quote: skeptic
      Worse than the war with the impudent Saks and Amers, perhaps only friendship with them,

      With such "friends", there is no need for enemies
    2. +1
      8 February 2023 10: 25
      especially against China.

      And also with China. An eye for an eye is needed with these narrow-eyed. The East is a delicate matter, as Comrade Sukhov said.
      1. +1
        8 February 2023 11: 13
        There are a lot of Chinese students in my city, most I would not call narrow-eyed.)
        1. -1
          8 February 2023 16: 03
          In mine too, my eyes are wider. I would say that the Japanese cannot be called narrow-eyed, I see the Japanese right away, and the Koreans have skin like our Slavs. These are all conditional nicknames, we have Tatars, Turks, they used to speak with an accent, now they don’t, and so they are Caucasoids, but to burn, not all of course, but most, with folds under their eyes.
      2. 0
        8 February 2023 12: 14
        The East is a delicate matter, as Comrade Sukhov said.

        We would now at least finish a thick job, with respected partners. China might. it is dangerous because it also has its Westerners, overly cautious politicians, etc.
    3. 0
      8 February 2023 10: 40
      In fact, it would not be bad with the EU in terms of trade. Layer countries on the borders interfere with normal exports. It is not for nothing that SP-1-2 was blown up, and export through 404 continues (despite the war and shooting). Eliminate the independent transit of the Russian Federation-EU ..... The West has exactly the same task with China. Control and receive income from the transit of resources in one direction and technology in the other direction ..... between the Russian Federation and China and the EU. Logistics is all under the West now.
  5. +8
    8 February 2023 10: 15
    These are all wet mattresses. There is a search for cannon fodder against China and they see us as the ideal candidate.
    Question! Why do we need all this?
    1. +4
      8 February 2023 10: 26
      Quote from tarabar
      These are all wet mattresses. There is a search for cannon fodder against China and they see us as the ideal candidate.
      Question! Why do we need all this?

      And we don't need it. Mattresses are judged by themselves. And they are terribly afraid that the Russian Federation and China will agree to be friends against the United States, and even support "small but proud countries" such as the DPRK. )))
  6. +5
    8 February 2023 10: 17
    With such articles, knowing that, in principle, everything is covered with a copper basin, they simply probe the weaknesses of yacht politicians.
    Returns of yachts are looming on the horizon in exchange for the Korean scenario of the campaign. Let's see how many people with the mentality of the 90s are at the helm. Who need their favorite "muffins and boats"
    1. +1
      8 February 2023 11: 03
      Quote: Last centurion
      With such articles, knowing that, in principle, everything is covered with a copper basin, they simply probe the weaknesses of yacht politicians.

      so yacht politicians are already there, with them. fled abroad. there you can no longer probe with articles, but directly with a soldering iron.
      Quote: Last centurion
      Returns of yachts are looming on the horizon in exchange for the Korean scenario of the campaign.

      Prigogine? wassat
  7. HAM
    +4
    8 February 2023 10: 19
    As for the establishment of peace in Ukraine, the Americans were late, at least a year, when they offered to solve everything calmly. As for reparations, did the Kokhly ALREADY win?
    And about the cooperation between Russia and China, there is obvious anxiety, what if they come to an agreement?
    Something the "hegemon" got confused in the enemies - who is worse than China or Russia ... Although the little DPRK is a very terrible threat .....
  8. +4
    8 February 2023 10: 21
    Is he crazy? Conditions are put forward for the winner in the NWO: "At the same time, a condition is also put forward for Moscow to pay reparations to Kyiv." This is just a cherry on the cake .... take some of the territories, since they fought, but you also have to pay for them with money. So even the natives were not "bred", to see the coast was completely beguiled by the "sloppy".
  9. 0
    8 February 2023 10: 25
    As soon as the conflict in Ukraine ends, there will be a conflict in the Baltics. Russia does not need a Russophobic regime and a foothold on the territory of the Courland, Livonia and Estland regions. We need to restore the borders.
  10. -1
    8 February 2023 10: 28
    Yeah, the Americans are dreaming!!!
    After the atrocities that the United States has inflicted on Russia, not a single citizen of the Russian Federation will support the course of creating any kind of alliances with these deceitful, hypocritical and bloodthirsty scoundrels from the United States ......

    This time, it will not work to sit out behind a puddle, as they will go over to the camp of the winners.
    The United States will pay for all the evil caused by their policies to the world
  11. 0
    8 February 2023 10: 29
    . , preventing further expansion of the alliance to the east by joining the states neighboring the Russian Federation, while Kyiv is making concessions on the issue of recognizing Crimea and Donbass as Russian territories. At the same time, a condition is also put forward for Moscow to pay reparations to Kyiv.

    Dreamer. The main thing for us is to destroy the United States. And we do not need concessions in Ukraine. And there will be no reparations. And NATO borders no longer matter. They have already shat in our garden.
    -Oh sorry.
    - Nothing, nothing. I already spat on your back.
    Both Russia and China understand who the main enemy is, and what only poisoning awaits us from your toxic cookies
  12. +2
    8 February 2023 10: 29
    The Western press is once again trying to drive a wedge between Russia and Kinaya, planting a worm of denial in the minds of the Chinese.
  13. +1
    8 February 2023 10: 31
    Russia will take everything it sees fit and we will not ask anyone. The United States cannot be a partner by definition at the moment and for the next decades they are enemies without options. I think relations with China will depend on its ambitions in Central Asia. well as in relations with us
  14. +2
    8 February 2023 10: 33
    everyone is interested in containing the leader, and so far there is only one leader - the United States, the leader is very strong and aggressive
  15. -12
    8 February 2023 10: 33
    Russia is extremely unprofitable and simply dangerous too powerful China at hand - China still has hidden territorial claims against Russia and is only waiting for a strong weakening of the Russian Federation.

    But the defeat of China in the war with the United States is also unprofitable for Russia, because then all the power of the global West will turn against Russia.
    It is necessary to adopt the policy of the Anglo-Saxons in relation to the USA and the PRC - to help a weaker enemy against a stronger enemy until they destroy each other.

    1. +3
      8 February 2023 11: 14
      Now the basis of the problem of the Russian Federation and China is that dear partners have their own, quite open claims to them. This is a strong pulling factor, much more important for both countries than "hidden territorial claims" now and in the foreseeable future.
      Sitting on a tree, in the style of a wise monkey, will not work for either the Russian Federation or the PRC. Attempts will end with the final colonization of each of the countries separately. This is an obvious fact even for armchair analysts.
    2. +3
      8 February 2023 11: 22
      Are you absolutely sure that this map is from the textbook? And if from a textbook, then from China, and not Taiwanese?
    3. +1
      8 February 2023 12: 19
      According to your Truman, it turns out that no one will help the United States. And their help will not be accepted. And Russia and China, as long as the United States exists, will never become opponents
  16. +1
    8 February 2023 10: 35
    The US leadership should have realized this earlier. And do not spread rot on Russia, inciting all sorts of Georgia-Baltic states on it. Not to destroy the economy by feeding the Abramovichs, but to render full assistance in turning Russia into an analogue of South Korea. Russia as an ally and even as a member of NATO is more useful than any EU country. But now... How do they imagine it? That they will simply apologize (like Chu ... Are you? Are you offended by the Hymers?) And the Russian Federation will joyfully rush to the war with China? And for that they will consider (only consider) the issue of lifting sanctions. Each of their arms deliveries only digs a pit of alienation between us.
    1. +2
      8 February 2023 11: 28
      but to render full assistance in turning Russia into an analogue of South Korea.

      Korean, Japanese, German, Singaporean miracles are an invitation to development, the creation of showcases, as part of the fight against the Soviet bloc, has side effects for the United States, because. is expensive and creates competitors. (Thus, the United States missed China) There was no longer any sense / incentive to help the Russian Federation, Jeffrey Sachs spoke about this (head of the US economic advisers group at EBN)
      M.b. The United States could go for the creation of dependent "Baltic" or "Polish" miracles in a number of regions of the already dismembered Russian Federation, they do not need a big competitor. A significant part of the regions of the world (Africa, Latin America), the United States prefer to simply rob for inexpensive maintenance of their own standard of living.
    2. +1
      8 February 2023 11: 37
      For example, the "Singapore" miracle was realized at the moment of the triumphal march of the left idea across Asia. Then the interests of the United States converged with the convictions of, yes, an intelligent manager, but a fierce anti-communist, Lee Kuan Yew.
  17. 0
    8 February 2023 10: 42
    As soon as the Ukrainian conflict ends, the United States and Russia immediately realize that they have many common goals regarding China.


    Or vice versa, which, under present conditions, is more likely.
  18. +1
    8 February 2023 10: 53
    As soon as the Ukrainian conflict ends, the United States and Russia immediately realize that they have many common goals regarding China.

    I don’t understand how he didn’t starve to death with such predictions? fool Are there experts even cooler than him? wassat ready to pay for these predictions?! Yes, he is lucky, this pos. feel Put him in some old plane, let him fellow flies. This plane will never crash!
    Special thanks to the editors of VO for the publication. Your joke and banter appreciated! wink good
  19. +1
    8 February 2023 10: 53
    Like it or not, but the neural connections of Western thinking are somehow mysteriously carried out through the ass. request
  20. +3
    8 February 2023 10: 56
    I don’t really understand, why does Russia need Ukraine or the West to recognize Crimea and Donbass as part of Russia?
    First, they have no faith. Recognized today, revoked tomorrow.
    Secondly, the United States did not recognize the Baltic states as part of the USSR. This did not interfere with the USSR.
    It is important that the state has the strength and political will to use this strength.

    It is necessary to negotiate with the West exactly what was discussed the December before last - preventing military infrastructure from entering Georgia, Ukraine, the absence of missiles in Eastern Europe, and so on.
    At the same time, it does not matter at all whether this infrastructure is NATO or not. The very fact of such a military threat is important.
    Because tomorrow the States can put together a new bloc and say that there was no agreement about this bloc.
  21. +1
    8 February 2023 10: 59
    laughing
    Just not together with the United States, the fact that China is a strategic RIVAL does not mean that the United States will cease to be a strategic ENEMY
  22. +3
    8 February 2023 11: 06
    As soon as the Ukrainian conflict ends, the US and Russia will realize that they have many common goals regarding China

    After all, the sons of dogs, again they are twisting the old topic or they are thinking of ending the conflict in their favor and then using the beaten Russian Federation against the PRC
  23. amr
    +1
    8 February 2023 12: 11
    Quote from Egeni
    It would be better if a couple of zeros were removed from the bill.

    It would be better to remove the loan interest!
  24. +2
    8 February 2023 12: 39
    That's how everything is simple for the "mattress makers": get peace, make concessions, and organize a XNUMX% alliance with Russia against China ... Moreover, Russia should be interested in this, because it is necessary. And do not care that Russia and China have a common membership in organizations, promising mutual projects, and trade. Just at the snap of its fingers, Russia should make a geopolitical somersault (albeit not immediately), moving away from China.
  25. +1
    8 February 2023 13: 33
    When they finish with 404, they will take care of their masters from the west.
  26. 0
    8 February 2023 15: 28
    Kyiv is making concessions on the issue of recognizing Crimea and Donbass as Russian territories. At the same time, a condition is also put forward for Moscow to pay reparations to Kyiv.

    This uncle did not try to make friends with his own head? Whether Ukraine recognizes Crimea in purple or not, I feel fine here even without recognition, but as for reparations, they are paid by the losers, for example, Washington pays them, it is clear that the dumped lards will not return to them. And the time for negotiations was a year ago, then they explained that there was no need to do certain actions. He realized something late.
  27. +1
    9 February 2023 12: 57
    As soon as the Ukrainian conflict ends, the US and Russia will realize that they have many goals in common.

    So why did it happen? Let them announce the end of military support for Ukraine and the 95th quarter will collapse in one day, and without external influence.
  28. -1
    9 February 2023 13: 10
    “According to the author of the publication and editor of the magazine Michael Warren Davis, not only the United States itself, but even Russia is very interested in containing China. For this reason, the author of the book Reactionary Thinking believes, Russia is striving to unite with China against the States. "

    Egorenkov Alexander.
    You wrote here contradicting the logic of theses. Moreover, they attributed this contradiction (in fact, their own nonsense) to the author of an article in a Western magazine.
    Alexander could not retell the two theses of the article in such a way that the logical harmony of the original source was preserved. You failed to retell the article ...
    Why?
    However, this is not interesting.
    Another passage of the editor is interesting. Here he is:
    “China, as we know, wants to take over the world. But to do this, it needs allies. The problem is that no one wants to be an ally of China, because ... well, it wants to take over the world. Many small countries would gladly unite with Beijing against NATO, but that would mean selling their sovereignty to the CCP.

    There is only one country on the planet that can be (A) willing to team up with China against the US, but also (B) big enough to resist being completely swallowed up by Chinese hegemony. That country, of course, is Russia."

    And what about "incomplete" absorption?
  29. +1
    10 February 2023 07: 57
    Western press: As soon as the Ukrainian conflict ends, the US and Russia will realize that they are united by many goals regarding China

    ... Even from a young age, I was convinced that there is no event in the world that the newspaper would truthfully tell about ...
    D. Orwell "Remembering the war in Spain"
  30. 0
    14 February 2023 19: 12
    The whole planet is united by the absence of a channel between Canada and Mexico. And in the article - it's someone's wet fantasies.