The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the report actually recognizes the exit of Russian forces to the outskirts of Chasov Yar and the crossing of the Artyomovsk-Slavyansk road

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The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the report actually recognizes the exit of Russian forces to the outskirts of Chasov Yar and the crossing of the Artyomovsk-Slavyansk road

The Ukrainian General Staff published a morning summary of events on the fronts, from which certain conclusions can be drawn about the continuation of the offensive of Russian troops in the Bakhmut (Artemovsk) area.

For example, in the release of the press secretary of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Alexander Shtupun (often called the “Ukrainian Rambo” because of his habit of appearing indoors in front of the camera in full combat gear), it is said that Russian troops carried out an attack to the north-west of Bakhmut on settlements Dubovo-Vasilyevka and Orekhovo-Vasilyevka.



In the summary, Shtupun states that the attacks on these settlements have been "repulsed". But the very fact that these names appeared in the summary of the Ukrainian General Staff suggests that Russian troops have crossed the strategically important Artyomovsk-Slavyansk road and already have the ability to conduct assault operations to the west of it.



Also noteworthy is the fact that the promotion is in the direction of Slavyansk. For example, Orekhovo-Vasilyevka is located less than 22 km from this city and at a distance of approximately 13 km from the northern outskirts of Bakhmut, most of the roads to which have been cut by our troops for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In a straight line from Orekhovo-Vasilyevka (through the fields and the Seversky Donets-Donbass canal) to Kramatorsk about 16-17 km.

Also in the summary, for the first time, it speaks of a "repelled attack on Chasov Yar." This is actually a recognition that the Russian forces also crossed the Artyomovsk-Konstantinovka road, advancing north of it and reaching the outskirts of Chasov Yar.



Accordingly, it becomes possible to cut the only agglomeration road remaining under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - the one that connects Chasov Yar with Artyomovsk through the village of Khromovo.
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  1. +6
    8 February 2023 09: 54
    These have been squealing since the morning, while ours are silent for now ... maybe things will clear up by lunchtime. And so, yes, they took it - they said it would be more correct.
    1. +6
      8 February 2023 10: 02


      Hours of Yar on a hill. Having taken possession of it, it will be easier to attack Konstantinovka.
      1. 0
        8 February 2023 10: 58
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        Hours of Yar on a hill. Having taken possession of it, it will be easier to attack Konstantinovka.

        I have a friend whose daughter from his first marriage lives in Konstantinovka. And the son from his second marriage is now fighting somewhere in this area as part of our forces. Sometimes she calls him and jokes that she is getting ready to meet her sister laughing
      2. 0
        8 February 2023 15: 24
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        Hours of Yar on a hill. Having taken possession of it, it will be easier to attack Konstantinovka.

        If Chasov Yar passes to us, then the Ukrainian grouping in the Artemovsk region will live in a matter of hours. She will have no resupply, no way out, not even on foot.
        1. +1
          9 February 2023 10: 27
          Quote: svp67
          If Chasov Yar passes to us, then the Ukrainian grouping in the Artemovsk region will live in a matter of hours. She will have no resupply, no way out, not even on foot.

          There is always a way out, only for the sake of it now it’s only below the floor, to hell with sorting ...
  2. +6
    8 February 2023 10: 06
    Judging by the topographic map, the trick is that according to the height grid, the last route in principle is on direct fire already now, for example, a tank may well hit.
    Howitzers cover and mortars too.
  3. -16
    8 February 2023 10: 09
    There are no censorship words - to storm the fortified areas of the enemy, laying hundreds and thousands of lives for one city!
    Well, they took Artyomovsk-Bakhmut, and what's next? Will we also storm the fortified area Konstantinovka - Druzhkovka - Kramatorsk - Slavyansk - Krasny Liman for the whole of 2023?

    Do we at the Academies of the General Staff of the Russian Federation teach butchers of Verdun or strategists of modern maneuver warfare?
    Where are our Brusilovs, Suvorovs, Zhukovs, Rokossovskys?!
    1. +3
      8 February 2023 10: 12
      Do you have a different vision? Share on VO and with the General Staff of the RF Ministry of Defense.
      1. -4
        8 February 2023 10: 21
        Why is it impossible to build up forces and make an analogue of Operation Uranus - a deep coverage of the Donetsk grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with converging strikes from the north and south along the Gulyai Pole - Pavlograd - Lozovaya - Balakleya - Kupyansk line?
        There are no such powerful fortified areas there yet.
        1. +7
          8 February 2023 10: 36
          Quote from DefenderofTruth
          Why is it impossible to build up forces and make an analogue of Operation Uranus - a deep coverage of the Donetsk grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with converging strikes from the north and south along the Gulyai Pole - Pavlograd - Lozovaya - Balakleya - Kupyansk line?
          There are no such powerful fortified areas there yet.


          There is no such concentration of Russian troops in Ukraine for this operation.
          1. -2
            8 February 2023 10: 38
            So it needs to be created.
            We in the Kremlin should have a real military leader of the country, like Sir Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin.
            1. +1
              8 February 2023 10: 50
              We are in the Kremlin. We have in the Academies of the General Staff. Yeah, Churchill is missing there and not enough horseradish. wassat
            2. +3
              8 February 2023 11: 00
              We in the Kremlin should have a real military leader of the country, like Sir Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin.

              Sly-butt Churchill is hardly a good example.
            3. +4
              8 February 2023 11: 15
              Regardez le parcours de Churchill, tout son parcours... et vous verrez certains échecs militaires menés par lui et restés célèbres, surtout un vers les Dardanelles.

              Look at Churchill's track record, in all his parcours...et you will see some of the military failures he made that have remained famous, especially towards the Dardanelles.
              1. 0
                9 February 2023 10: 18
                Avez vous entendu quelque chose semblable de Poutine:

                "We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!"

                "You ask, what is our policy? I can say: It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us; to wage war against a monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalog of human crime. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival."
            4. 0
              8 February 2023 14: 05
              How, may I ask? Another mobilization? You will go?
              1. 0
                10 February 2023 09: 51
                In 22, fortified areas were also stormed, and what was the result? Now we are also storming the fortresses...
            5. 0
              8 February 2023 14: 07
              Churchill is a hyped devil. Read his biography, testimonies of contemporaries. Fortunately, a little time has passed, everything is in the public domain, a lot of books. In reality, he failed everything he could
            6. 0
              8 February 2023 15: 03
              It looks funny, Churchill and his Dardanelles operation will forever go down in the annals of history, that this should not be done.
              1. 0
                9 February 2023 10: 20
                What about Operation Dynamo?
            7. -1
              9 February 2023 10: 32
              Quote from DefenderofTruth
              So it needs to be created.
              We in the Kremlin should have a real military leader of the country, like Sir Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin.

              It’s time for you to go to the military registration and enlistment office for a long time - the grouping doesn’t add up without you ...
        2. +2
          8 February 2023 10: 39
          Why is it impossible to accumulate strength and make an analogue of Operation Uranus


          You should at least read about the balance of forces in operation uranium, since you give analogies ....

          Where to get a million soldiers? Dressed, shod, armed, trained. They need to be supplied and fed.

          Where to enroll you? The infantrymen at the forefront, who will breastfeed for pillboxes / bunkers and machine gun points run to carry out your deep coverage? Or to home front workers who will work 20 hours a day in difficult conditions to ensure this "strategic strike"?
          1. 0
            9 February 2023 10: 24
            Does this mean that the Russian Federation is a third world power that, unlike the USSR, is not capable of conducting strategic offensive operations and, unlike the United States, is not capable of a massive air offensive?
          2. 0
            9 February 2023 10: 35
            Quote: JonnyT
            Where to get a million soldiers? Dressed, shod, armed, trained. They need to be supplied and fed.

            In the DPRK. We’ll find a cup of rice for each brother, feed him, and after the war there won’t be any need to look for builders ...
        3. -1
          8 February 2023 15: 02
          Because this was done when there were mechanized units in small numbers and mostly infantry. So now all the troops ride at about the same speed. damn strategist.
    2. +5
      8 February 2023 10: 15
      Bakhmut is surrounded. And how else are you going to take a well-fortified city? What are your thoughts on this issue?
    3. 0
      8 February 2023 10: 19
      in a modern war it will only make a breakthrough with large forces 20-30 km deep
    4. -3
      8 February 2023 10: 20
      And I would ask: where is our Kuzkina mother, who resets the oporniks and other citadels.
    5. -4
      8 February 2023 10: 21
      I also think that our tactics require flexibility. The same enemy often only creates a threat of encirclement and concentrates attacks on transport communications, rendering bridges unusable, achieving success as with the Kherson precedent ...
    6. +3
      8 February 2023 13: 29
      Now is another time. The covert formation of large strike forces in the main directions is now impossible. In the Second World War, the success of the entire operation often depended on this. Today, coverage and encirclement are possible only if there are many factors: breaking a significant gap in the defense, having a ready reserve for exploiting success, disorganizing the enemy’s rear to make it difficult to transfer troops, efficient work and coordination of all branches of the military, timely and complete supply, and much more. The enemy is literate and you won't achieve anything here with a cavalry charge.
      But how prepared these factors are is the question. In this "chess game" you can't checkmate quickly.
    7. -1
      8 February 2023 15: 00
      Fortresses and stormed in the forehead. for example, the Germans stormed Fort Eben-Emael, and the aforementioned Suvorov Izmail. And Brusilov also punched in the forehead and Zhukov on Mount Bain-Tsagan lost quite a few armored vehicles in order to clog the Japanese bridgehead. What do you tell if you yourself don’t know a damn story and don’t want to know? They gave you minuses for the cause, I also added mine.
    8. TIR
      +2
      9 February 2023 09: 34
      An old grandfather is asked:
      - Grandfather, it was probably better to live before?
      - Of course better!
      - Probably free medicine, education, decent work?
      - Nope, before just a woman loved and hell stood

      Same here and here
    9. -3
      9 February 2023 10: 30
      Quote from DefenderofTruth
      Do we at the Academies of the General Staff of the Russian Federation teach butchers of Verdun or strategists of modern maneuver warfare?
      Where are our Brusilovs, Suvorovs, Zhukovs, Rokossovskys?!

      Our legs have already been knocked down in the General Staff, the dogs have been running around looking for you - show up soon - a strategist is desperately needed!
  4. 0
    8 February 2023 10: 09
    for the first time it is said about the "reflected attack on Chasov Yar".

    Fight check. Ours are slowly but surely carrying out "denazification".
  5. +4
    8 February 2023 10: 10
    Wagner advances from the east to Krasnaya Gora. Even further north, from the side of Blagodatny, he is trying to break through to Zheleznyansky. And to the north-east from the side of Yakovlevka, the “musicians” are attacking at Vesyoliy. Russian troops again tried to advance to Verkhnekamenskoye.
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  7. 0
    8 February 2023 10: 33
    The "guests" came to the VO ......... they were waiting for it straight.
    1. -3
      8 February 2023 11: 03
      Guests - are they without chronic peremogi? do not yell?
    2. -2
      8 February 2023 15: 20
      Just like that, the number of stupid comments has increased again, which means ours are beating them, and the tsipsota is holding on to a place so that they are not called to the front
      1. -1
        9 February 2023 02: 31
        An excellent example of victory. Who does not jump - that tsipso.
  8. +5
    8 February 2023 10: 41
    Admin does not give the right to vote. Write comments. I am writing A lot of strange things happen in this war. The main penetrating force turned out to be private paramilitary structures, not the regular army, but PMCs. The battles go through the fortified areas in the forehead, and not along the flanks. We collect equipment, medicine, communications by the whole world. The rear of the Nazis, decision-making centers function and are not destroyed. Etc. Why why?. In this whole story, as always, the heroism of our guys is amazing. Selflessness, heroism are inherent in the Russian soldier. And if he took up arms, now he can not be stopped!
    1. -1
      8 February 2023 15: 21
      Yeah. and the rest so, whitewash paint? The musicians, no doubt, are great, but if you dig into the cart there are a lot of comments from simple motorized riflemen, for example.
  9. 0
    9 February 2023 16: 44
    The Nazis in the Second World War, at almost any cost, tried to capture the heights and any other tactically advantageous positions. There were many counterattacks with the pulling up of aviation, the concentration of art. strikes, tanks, etc.
    This gave them serious tactical benefits (!)
    Our commanders should also remember this.
  10. +1
    10 February 2023 00: 30
    This time we are doing very well! We didn't get stuck in Artemovsk, but made two important coverages. Thus, the enemy will not have time to build his usual defense model, as was the case after the capture of Lisichansk and Severodonetsk. Looking at the map, one can clearly see the prospect of the encirclement of Seversk, Artemovsk and Avdiivka in the future. An offensive in several sectors will simultaneously break through the Donetsk front and seriously weaken the enemy. The last stronghold of resistance will be the Slavic-Kramatorsk agglomeration. But, before that, we can take Zaporozhye and go to the Dnieper, which will change a lot on the battlefield and create additional problems for the Kharkov grouping, which we planned to smash in the first days of the war ...
  11. +2
    10 February 2023 00: 39
    Quote from DefenderofTruth
    Why is it impossible to build up forces and make an analogue of Operation Uranus - a deep coverage of the Donetsk grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with converging strikes from the north and south along the Gulyai Pole - Pavlograd - Lozovaya - Balakleya - Kupyansk line?
    There are no such powerful fortified areas there yet.

    A counter question, but where is the regular army at all? The main successes are PMC Wagner, where now the base consists of convicts! There are also Marines of the Pacific Fleet, 20th Army and 144th Motor Rifle Division. Kantemirovskaya merged with Balakleya and Kupyansk, abandoning equipment and weapons. Has anyone answered this???
    Right now in Ukraine there is not the necessary number of troops to carry out such a large-scale military operation.
    For example, I don’t understand why we don’t destroy Pavlograd and Pokrovsk??? These are two key railway junctions through which the Ukrainian is moving troops.

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