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Ukrainian serviceman: Soldiers of the 30th brigade, which arrived near Bakhmut, simply run away at the sight of the enemy, since they have nothing to shoot with

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Ukrainian serviceman: Soldiers of the 30th brigade, which arrived near Bakhmut, simply run away at the sight of the enemy, since they have nothing to shoot with

In contrast to the uplifting statements of the top Ukrainian leadership and Yermak's publications about the "task to reach the borders of 1991 by military means", the Ukrainian military personnel stationed in Bakhmut (Artyomovsk) are sounding a real alarm. The statement of the former deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, and now an officer of the 72nd brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Igor Lutsenko is published on the network. This statement attracts special attention, since it (as Lutsenko himself writes) is firsthand, from Ukrainian soldiers stationed in Bakhmut:


The 30th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Bakhmut has no ammunition. This brigade, which was sent to us for reinforcement, is throwing weapon at the sight of the enemy and simply runs away from positions.

His note says that the Ukrainian fighters have to flee “in all directions” not because they are “bad guys”, but simply because they have nothing to shoot with.

Ukrainian soldier:

They simply have nothing to shoot. From the word "absolutely". One "zinc" per day is allocated to the rifle department. In machine-gun belts - 20 rounds each, there are no more rounds.

Further, the former People's Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada uses non-literary vocabulary about the current situation.

Igor Lutsenko:

The fighters on the spot believe that the Russians will cut the road to Slavyansk in the near future, maybe even today. And we do not have artillery support, because the 30th brigade was deployed without ammunition (ammunition).
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  1. dmi.pris1
    dmi.pris1 7 February 2023 20: 19
    +19
    You just need to know which way to run. Otherwise it turns out running in a circle
    1. The black
      The black 7 February 2023 20: 26
      +19
      Why run like saigas. Paws to the top and captured. Guaranteed not to die.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 7 February 2023 20: 28
        +13
        Not everywhere, unfortunately, there are problems with ammunition.
        Otherwise, everything that is needed would have been released long ago
        Nothing, more experience.
        Organize supply problems everywhere.
        1. figwam
          figwam 7 February 2023 21: 01
          +2
          Quote: Shurik70
          Not everywhere, unfortunately, there are problems with ammunition.

          So they themselves write that the 30th brigade has fresh ones, who have just been driven to slaughter, they were in such a hurry that there are not enough BCs, and when our last road is cut, it will be the end for them.
          1. Myths
            Myths 8 February 2023 01: 36
            +4
            If they give up, they have a chance. And so the regime at an accelerated pace decided to reduce the population, so the mobilized do not have weapons, and detachments can shoot at the barriers.
      2. ivan1979nkl
        ivan1979nkl 7 February 2023 20: 32
        +7
        Paws to the top and captured

        many would be happy, but they are very afraid that they will be fired at, and from both sides
        1. Vlodek
          Vlodek 7 February 2023 20: 42
          +24
          Well, our prisoners were shot, didn’t they think that they themselves would have to raise their paws? you have to answer for everything sooner or later
        2. Arzoo
          Arzoo 8 February 2023 00: 19
          +1
          Quote from ivan1979nkl
          Paws to the top and captured

          many would be happy, but they are very afraid that they will be fired at, and from both sides
          Well, as it were, the policy of the music company is very ambiguous in relation to the capitulators. They are still watching when someone and under what circumstances raised their paws. in Soledar, for example, the encircled Ukrainians were offered to die with military honor. And their coffins were worthily handed over to the enemy. This is not the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with the Charter and conventions.
      3. Baloo
        Baloo 7 February 2023 21: 22
        0
        Quote: Black
        Why run like saigas. Paws to the top and captured. Guaranteed not to die.

        Right. We have no other option than to defeat or kill all the devils in this Second Great Patriotic War. Banderlogs have three options: run away over the fence (for example, to Canada laughing ), give up or die sad
      4. ARIONkrsk
        ARIONkrsk 8 February 2023 07: 49
        0
        Quote: Black
        Why run like saigas. Paws to the top and captured. Guaranteed not to die.

        But they don’t know this, they are told horror stories about Mordor there.
    2. fruc
      fruc 7 February 2023 21: 02
      +1
      This brigade, ..drops weapons at the sight of the enemy and simply runs away from positions.

      For 8 years they successfully fought with the Russian army in the Donbass, and here such a bummer.
      Lutsenko can be seen "flooded" like a nightingale. They have plenty of ammunition, perhaps they don’t want to fight, so they scatter. Awaiting large supplies of ammunition from France and the United States
    3. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 7 February 2023 21: 17
      +7
      And they didn’t run away from the Maidan. They were good. Let Wagner cut them all there. There will be fewer traitors.
    4. Argon
      Argon 7 February 2023 21: 17
      -1
      What did they come? )) the theme of the lack of ammunition is most likely an excuse to flee from the battlefield. Many were called there under fear of being shot. Prisons are overcrowded, so they are afraid of executions.
  2. voice of reason
    voice of reason 7 February 2023 20: 20
    +10
    Here it is reality from the front. And where were the statements "the enemy holds the fortifications, inflicts defeat, and then calmly retreats, there is a lot of meat mobilized, the brigades will be replenished and then another hundred villages must be liberated"
    Is something not working out already with the replenishment of the Sumerians? In addition, in order to catch raguli at the military registration and enlistment offices, they must also be armed and trained, and combat coordination should be carried out. But they are not given any BC, they are not taught properly, and the soldier's telegraph has already imbued them with the fear of a collision with the invincible Wagner. The boys clearly understand that they were thrown "for meat" for slaughter and do not want to die for a sniffed clown, whose life, as it turned out, is not in danger, for his wife shopping in boutiques in Paris, for Danilov's son, who shoots videos in Miami, for non-belligerent deputies are glad to have a rest in Thailand and Spain during the war, and for the crowd raging with fat in Courchevel.
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 7 February 2023 21: 16
      0
      wassat it makes sense to give them BC. They may not have been taken to the shooting range. They seem to have a different purpose.
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 7 February 2023 22: 03
      +5
      Such is the roaming life. First, jumping in pouring. Then for meat. And there is no thought, pity this herd. Children feel sorry for the sick, the elderly, animals. But raguli is just a herd. Dull, rude, stupid, gray, bullish. That's where they go.
  3. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 7 February 2023 20: 21
    +10
    I didn’t understand something, but what then have the rest been snapping at for a month now? Or is it just this team?
    1. t-12
      t-12 7 February 2023 20: 26
      +3
      There the roads are under heavy shelling, it is difficult to transport ammunition.
      1. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 7 February 2023 20: 34
        +4
        t-12 hi, then, logically, our fighters should move forward more easily, and our fighters fight for every stairwell and the resistance is the most severe, which means b. to. not a problem yet.
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 7 February 2023 21: 20
          -3
          Yes, something so-so fight judging by the stories. They sat down in the house, the span collapsed. They can't get out, they can't get in. They sit and wait until they die of hunger. You yourself probably heard the story from the Wagnerian. Broadcast on the box
      2. ivan1979nkl
        ivan1979nkl 7 February 2023 20: 35
        +2
        ammunition is difficult to transport

        from the outskirts of Inanovsky to the Chasov Yar - Bakhmut highway you can get it with a mortar
  4. Cat Alexandrovich
    Cat Alexandrovich 7 February 2023 20: 27
    +7
    Okay, ammunition, but they are well fed, since they can run.
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  6. alexander 66
    alexander 66 7 February 2023 20: 31
    0
    And who then snarls like a hunted animal? Again, another bullshit, as if everything is in order with us. Wait and see
    1. Sergei 42
      Sergei 42 7 February 2023 20: 35
      0
      There is a combined hodgepodge, someone mated and there is still b ...
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 7 February 2023 22: 54
      +2
      Quote: alexandr 66
      And who then snarls like a hunted animal? Again, another bullshit, as if everything is in order with us. Wait and see

      If bullshit, then it carries
      officer of the 72nd brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Igor Lutsenko.
  7. poquello
    poquello 7 February 2023 20: 32
    0
    "The fighters on the spot believe that the Russians in the near future, maybe even today, will cut the highway to Slavyansk."
    already, left alone at Chasov Yar
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 7 February 2023 22: 51
      +2
      Quote: poquello
      "The fighters on the spot believe that the Russians in the near future, maybe even today, will cut the highway to Slavyansk."
      already, left alone at Chasov Yar

      If this happens before Ramstein, then it is sad for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The West can slow down the supply of weapons.
      1. poquello
        poquello 7 February 2023 23: 54
        0
        Quote: Terenin
        Quote: poquello
        "The fighters on the spot believe that the Russians in the near future, maybe even today, will cut the highway to Slavyansk."
        already, left alone at Chasov Yar

        If this happens before Ramstein, then it is sad for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The West can slow down the supply of weapons.

        it is unlikely that musicians have any interest before Rammstein,
  8. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 7 February 2023 20: 34
    +1
    that they are "bad guys", but simply because they have nothing to shoot with.

    They start it out of foolishness, all of Europe, the USA and all 50 countries are driving so many weapons into the Ruins that it will be enough for another 10 years.
    Just write - "Well, we're going to fight, and God forbid, head-on, but with the music "Flight of the Valkyries", from which you want to howl and run to Africa."
  9. Bingo
    Bingo 7 February 2023 20: 35
    +9
    Tvayum))) In 20 years, sell all the warehouses of the Western Group of Forces, where there were cartridges for the entire Warsaw Pact for several years of the war, then yell for 8 years that they were at war with Russia - and manage not to build even one cartridge factory ... That's not I’ll be surprised if they really start to strain with cartridges wassat
    And what? The fact that they all shot 12,7 back in the 14th year is generally a well-known fact, well, I think that 7,62 / 5,45 are also not endless
    1. potap6509
      potap6509 7 February 2023 22: 25
      +3
      As recently as today in a cart, I saw they were beating with a dshk, and the cliffs were on tanks, they have 12,7, again the Bulgarians, probably.
  10. Rage66
    Rage66 7 February 2023 20: 47
    +1
    We guarantee life, bread and medical care to all who surrendered. soldier
    1. fruc
      fruc 7 February 2023 21: 10
      +2
      Rage66 ...We guarantee life, bread to all who surrendered .....

      I would suggest a shovel, pickle and gruel in sunny Turukhansk. Banderists have already been there.
      1. novel66
        novel66 7 February 2023 21: 24
        +4
        Well, actually, one does not interfere with the other ..
  11. Former soldier
    Former soldier 7 February 2023 20: 57
    +9
    His note says that the Ukrainian fighters have to flee “in all directions” not because they are “bad guys”, but simply because they have nothing to shoot with.

    Well, if things are so bad for them, then why is the front still standing?
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 7 February 2023 21: 30
      -1
      If he has a machine gun in his hands, no one knows whether it is loaded or not. Maybe it doesn't shoot because it saves. What .... will run for trouble ...
    2. topol717
      topol717 7 February 2023 22: 53
      +1
      Quote: Former soldier
      Well, if things are so bad for them, then why is the front still standing?

      It's not worth it, every day he moves, slowly 100 somewhere even 10 meters.
      The guys of the fighters must be protected, so everything is neat, with the utmost care. War does not give a second chance.
  12. Ile ham
    Ile ham 7 February 2023 21: 01
    +2
    Do cyborgs need ammo? But what about fearlessness and courage? Or ran out of syringes?
  13. gardaster
    gardaster 7 February 2023 21: 02
    +7
    Cartridges during intense hostilities tend to somehow end quickly. And if you don’t have your own stock and production, then you can’t deliver from abroad. And there were reserves in Ukraine, and considerable ones. But the goods are running. And these reserves converted very well. And now there is also a discrepancy in calibers. Only three sevens - 39, 51 and 54, 5,45, 5,56. Browning 0.50 caliber added. And that's not counting the snipers in every way. So I won’t be surprised if some Ukropov’s units can sit on a starvation ration for cartridges. Yes, and stocks, it seems, are being made for newly formed brigades. And the 30th ombr was generally unlucky from the 14th.
  14. Leshak
    Leshak 7 February 2023 21: 05
    +4
    Supply routes are mostly cut and the remaining ones are being shot through. Hence the problems with the supply of ammunition for some units. But, unfortunately, this is not a common occurrence. The resistance is still very strong.
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 7 February 2023 22: 09
      -1
      Supply routes are mostly cut and the remaining ones are being shot through. Hence the problems with the supply of ammunition

      And those who were dragged into the mines? Not issued?
  15. Fangaro
    Fangaro 7 February 2023 21: 05
    -6
    You can actually laugh. Above the former deputy of the analogue of our State Duma. But is there one of the former, or current, deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and not an observer, but on the staff list?
    And where modern means of communication may be lacking?
    I know about Rogozin. He was discharged from the hospital and immediately went to the front line.
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 7 February 2023 21: 34
      0
      And I read that Rogozin celebrated his birthday there. in the DNR. He was accidentally hurt. Who to trust... request
    2. Tochilka
      Tochilka 7 February 2023 22: 06
      +7
      Deputy Milonov Vitaly. while he was sitting in the Duma, he was burning with various hellish initiatives. Now in the active part with the rank of sergeant and gunner. There was news about him.
  16. Ural resident
    Ural resident 7 February 2023 21: 37
    +3
    All of this is great, of course. Only the situation is reminiscent of the end of the summer of 2022. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are throwing unnecessary meat at the front, and in the meantime they are preparing a shock fist - this is already obvious. There will be another blow, whether our military leaders will be able to stop it and defeat the main forces or not - only time will tell. And so, yes - "we have their hats and one left - they don’t have anything, and they don’t know how to fight ..."
  17. Oleg Apushkin
    Oleg Apushkin 7 February 2023 21: 37
    -2
    Did they even put red flags there? There is a jackal hunt.
  18. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 7 February 2023 21: 37
    -2
    I suppose I drank BC, or worse, I blew it.
    And now he's complaining.
    In a war, such whining is in bulk. I wouldn't believe...
  19. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 7 February 2023 21: 39
    +1
    Ordinary people are trying to shut up the defense and buy time, it doesn't look like they're in a crisis.
    Prepare, bastards, counterstrike.
  20. Irina Vinogradova (Lagoda)
    Irina Vinogradova (Lagoda) 7 February 2023 21: 51
    +3
    They do it right. Why die because of the ambitions of Americans? It breaks my heart to see how many young men are dying. The United States from Ukraine needs a military foothold to intimidate Russia and China, rather than develop the economy of Ukraine. The US and Europe treat Ukraine as a colony.
  21. The pilot's son
    The pilot's son 7 February 2023 21: 54
    +2
    Опыт


    It is necessary to use the methods of the Second World War: Loudspeakers, leaflets explaining how to surrender, etc.
    1. Mint Gingerbread
      Mint Gingerbread 7 February 2023 22: 42
      +2
      And what is there to explain. They threw out weapons, armor, a helmet, wrapped something white around a stick and with raised hands went out. Of course, try so that your people do not give a turn in the back. Well, who cares.
  22. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 7 February 2023 21: 57
    +1
    They don’t need to run - they will catch them, kick them, shoot a couple for warning and return them back!
    They need to give up!
    Who would explain.
  23. My name
    My name 7 February 2023 22: 23
    +1
    More news like this. good news
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 7 February 2023 22: 42
      0
      Quote: My name
      More news like this. good news

      It is time to yes
  24. Terenin
    Terenin 7 February 2023 22: 44
    +1
    Europe must be forced to peace first, and then the United States. Until they run out of ammo. winked
  25. Vic Vic
    Vic Vic 7 February 2023 23: 02
    +4
    Interesting. And who is resisting Wagner? Nebegayki, previously imported and ending? In other news headlines that every house is like the Brest Fortress.
    No, they probably run, but this, unfortunately, is not a mass phenomenon ... yet
    1. kventinasd
      kventinasd 7 February 2023 23: 14
      +2
      Quote from vicvic
      No, they probably run, but this, unfortunately, is not a mass phenomenon ... yet

      I hope soon there will be a mass and the defeat of the best units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is just around the corner.
      1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich 8 February 2023 11: 09
        +1
        It seems that the position to which they are forced to advance is well targeted by the "Wagnerites". As soon as the Armed Forces appear there, to defeat them, they pull up something small-caliber, but effective, and accurately cover them. As a result, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have losses, and the position is intact and ready to receive the next "cyborgs".
  26. storm
    storm 8 February 2023 00: 36
    +8
    You read some authors, the Ukrainians run up and surrender almost after the first shot, but the head of Wagner, Prigozhin, declares that the Armed Forces of Ukraine courageously and professionally fight for every house, every street, and any advancement of our troops requires great effort and he can be trusted much more , because he himself is at the forefront and knows the situation much better than others ....
  27. Prokop_Pork
    Prokop_Pork 8 February 2023 01: 45
    +5
    Bullshit. This is for a Western destination. You leave us defenseless.
  28. FoBoss_VM
    FoBoss_VM 8 February 2023 01: 56
    +1
    If everything is so bad and sad, then why did we return only 1/6 of our Khokhlostan to our homeland in a year? We have been liberating three villages for half a year ... It is obvious that someone is lying. Who ?
  29. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 8 February 2023 04: 22
    +1
    So "advancing" that they lost BC .... !!! Pitchfork. Toporas to help you lads.
  30. Bioorganism
    Bioorganism 8 February 2023 08: 01
    -1
    Given the lack of ammunition, the RF Armed Forces will capture Bakhmut today!
  31. Romanenko
    Romanenko 8 February 2023 08: 13
    +1
    Well done Wagnerites and army men, they strangled the fascist nits in their own trenches, keep it up and continue to choke, God help you and the Ministry of Defense, guys!
  32. wladomir
    wladomir 8 February 2023 08: 35
    +2
    Another badass. If they have nothing to shoot with and they immediately scatter, then the question is - who with such bitterness and skill opposes our troops? Are they fighting with shovels against tanks and armored personnel carriers? Or are they fighting off automatic fire with stones? Another nonsense aimed at pumping out additional weapons from their "faithful allies" by any means and means. And they will get it, there is no doubt about it.
  33. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 8 February 2023 10: 17
    +1
    Strange. And with whom then in Bakhmut does Wagner stubbornly fight if the Nazis have no cartridges?
  34. Sly
    Sly 8 February 2023 11: 43
    0
    I have not been active as a commentator for a long time (I am writing a comment). Voting is prohibited.
  35. Ivanov IV
    Ivanov IV 9 February 2023 07: 46
    0
    Author?
    And what is the essence of your "creak"?
    - Is it that the banderlogs have nothing to shoot at ours, or that they have to run fast ????
    So what is the essence of the Question?
  36. Yaroslav the Wise
    Yaroslav the Wise 13 February 2023 12: 20
    0
    They don't run to give up. And they don't mind fighting. It’s just, you see, they don’t have BC! Those. if there were BC and art support, then banderlogs would not run "who where"? This only says that there is no place for them in captivity! Anywhere - in hell, underground, mixed with earth, but not in captivity!