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The head of the military department of Russia, Sergei Shoigu, called the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in manpower and military equipment over the past month

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The head of the military department of Russia, Sergei Shoigu, called the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in manpower and military equipment over the past month

The head of the Russian military department, Sergei Shoigu, spoke at a conference call at the Ministry of Defense. In his opening speech, he spoke about the current situation in the zone of the special military operation and named the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine over the past month.


The situation on the line of contact is developing in our direction, Russian troops are conducting successful offensive operations in the area of ​​Ugledar and Artemovsk, recently several settlements in the Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions, including Soledar, have been liberated from the enemy. Of the not so large, but no less important, Kleshcheevka, Podgornoye, Krasnopole, Blagodatnoye and several other settlements were liberated, turned by the Armed Forces of Ukraine into defense centers.

Russian troops continue to destroy both the personnel of the Ukrainian army and Western-supplied equipment. In January alone, the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost more than 6,5 thousand servicemen, 26 aircraft, 7 helicopters, 341 armored vehicles, including Tanks and 40 MLRS installations.

The United States and its allies are seeking to prolong the conflict as much as possible by continuing to supply the Zelensky regime with weapons and equipment. The West has already begun deliveries of heavy offensive weapons, openly calling on Kyiv to seize Russian territory. NATO countries are increasingly drawn into the conflict, this can lead to the transition of hostilities to a higher level with an unpredictable outcome.

Russian troops will continue to conduct a special military operation to ensure the security of new Russian regions and protect the people of Ukraine from genocide by the Zelensky regime.

During the meeting, other issues were also discussed, including: re-equipment of the orbital constellation of military spacecraft and the construction of the second stage of the Baikal-Amur Mainline.
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  1. dmi.pris1
    dmi.pris1 7 February 2023 14: 15
    -2
    Well, they have a road to go there. To hell. However, 6 and a half thousand, isn’t it enough for an estimated loss of 170000 dead vuks in a year?
    1. Bingo
      Bingo 7 February 2023 14: 25
      +4
      The option that they counted the carcasses buried by us - that's all. He is a minister, after all, and to give value judgments, they say, apparently, they have lost so many thousands - this means giving a reason to catch him on "fantasies", so to speak. Russia clearly distances itself from Western high-likes, giving hard facts - and these compare favorably. Although, of course, there are also blunders with exactly the facts in the Ministry of Defense, but at least they don’t lie endlessly, like mattresses - there’s already a difference
      Type such:
      1. Zakirov Damir
        Zakirov Damir 7 February 2023 15: 35
        0
        Quote from Bingo
        The option that they counted the carcasses buried by us - that's all. He is a minister, after all, and to give value judgments, they say, apparently, they have lost so many thousands - this means giving a reason to catch him on "fantasies", so to speak.

        So it is, that is, they indicated the buried APU officers. Without terrorist defense and foreign mercenaries who died on the line of contact.

        At the same time, you should always remember that there are also APUs, terrorist defense and mercenaries:
        - those who died from air and missile strikes throughout Ukraine;
        - those who died from wounds in hospitals throughout Ukraine - 20% of those who died on the spot additionally.

        And there are also disabled people - 50% of those who died on the spot additionally.
        1. single-n
          single-n 7 February 2023 15: 48
          +2
          Excuse me, but on what basis did you draw such a conclusion?
          Do you have a link to the loss method? Maybe one of our military said this?
          And read the reports of the RF Ministry of Defense. They write about the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as a result of artillery strikes and rocket attacks in the rear. Or do you think that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation does not take into account these losses?
          1. Zakirov Damir
            Zakirov Damir 8 February 2023 00: 10
            -1
            Quote: Single-n
            Excuse me, but on what basis did you draw such a conclusion?
            Do you have a link to the loss method? Maybe one of our military said this?
            And read the reports of the RF Ministry of Defense. They write about the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as a result of artillery strikes and rocket attacks in the rear. Or do you think that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation does not take into account these losses?

            6 per month - not funny? And I cited the methodology several times on this forum, and it did not fundamentally depart from the methodology for calculating the losses of the Red Army and the Wehrmacht.
            1. single-n
              single-n 8 February 2023 09: 50
              0
              I don’t know what’s funny about 6.500, but I listened carefully to Shoigu. I quote
              "....Despite the unprecedented assistance, the enemy continues to suffer losses. In the first month of this year alone, they amounted to more than 6500 military personnel. ....."

              AND ALL. There are no divisions according to military battalions, APU, volunteers, etc. By the way, there is no mention of the types of losses either.
              Killed, wounded, prisoners, defectors, etc. Simply - more than 6500.
              And there is no need to pull on an owl, not a golobus, with attempts to consider that it is only those who were killed and buried. Or a terbat separately, and mercenaries separately. So all your calculations can be sent to REN-TV.
    2. Arzoo
      Arzoo 7 February 2023 14: 28
      +10
      6500 per month is 78000 per year, with the mobilization potential of Ukraine at 3000000 .... This “grinding” was in the spring, they talked all the time about “artillery superiority” and “grinding” and ended for us with a “regrouping” in Izyum and "difficult decision" in Kherson. There may be a one-on-one situation.
      1. insafufa
        insafufa 7 February 2023 14: 49
        -6
        Quote: Arzoo
        6500 per month is 78000 per year, with the mobilization potential of Ukraine at 3000000 .... This “grinding” was in the spring, they talked all the time about “artillery superiority” and “grinding” and ended for us with a “regrouping” in Izyum and "difficult decision" in Kherson. There may be a one-on-one situation.

        Well, we'll see how it goes. This war has passed into the stage whose nerves are stronger, the eggs are stronger and the anger is greater. Only flies do pirouettes quickly. Every day there are more experienced fighters and commanders, therefore, the interaction and training of the army is improving. The blitzkrieg faded away so quickly because of the failure to create a small, professional army. God loves big battles and on the side of divisions.
        1. invisible_man
          invisible_man 7 February 2023 15: 09
          -2
          The blitzkrieg faded away so quickly because of the failure to create a small, professional army.

          First of all - because of an incorrect assessment of the enemy's readiness for resistance. Because of this, they did not mobilize in time and eventually had to retreat.
        2. Arzoo
          Arzoo 7 February 2023 15: 24
          +3
          The blitzkrieg faded away so quickly because of the failure to create a small, professional army. God loves big battles and on the side of divisions.

          Everything is much worse. In principle, we are not capable of carrying out breakthroughs of the front against this enemy and entering the operational space with our mobile formations. Because of the superiority of the enemy in command and total superiority in intelligence. All our attempts to reach end in burnt equipment. That's how it was just the other day in Ugledar. When the RF Armed Forces deployed the maximum number of drones, thereby trying to compensate for the enemy’s complete superiority in reconnaissance assets, the Marines, with the support of the OBTF Cascade, tried to enter the operational space in the steppe. Everything burned down. With the current balance of forces and means, we cannot offer any other scenario for a war other than a creeping front, and we cannot realize all our superiority in armored vehicles. Only by providing more than three or four times superiority over the enemy will we be able to try something.
          1. Boris Sergeev
            Boris Sergeev 7 February 2023 16: 46
            0
            And they keep lying!

            Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Danilov said that Russia is beginning to "beg" for negotiations with the help of intermediaries:

            “Therefore, they beg for today. They are now doing a great job with certain groups so that they enter into negotiations. Already Brazil, and who just is not in the mediation .. "
          2. Metallurg_2
            Metallurg_2 7 February 2023 20: 52
            -1
            You can throw off the vigorous bonbu. Small, 5 kilotons.
          3. insafufa
            insafufa 8 February 2023 14: 23
            -1
            Quote: Arzoo
            The blitzkrieg faded away so quickly because of the failure to create a small, professional army. God loves big battles and on the side of divisions.

            Everything is much worse. In principle, we are not capable of carrying out breakthroughs of the front against this enemy and entering the operational space with our mobile formations. Because of the superiority of the enemy in command and total superiority in intelligence. All our attempts to reach end in burnt equipment. That's how it was just the other day in Ugledar. When the RF Armed Forces deployed the maximum number of drones, thereby trying to compensate for the enemy’s complete superiority in reconnaissance assets, the Marines, with the support of the OBTF Cascade, tried to enter the operational space in the steppe. Everything burned down. With the current balance of forces and means, we cannot offer any other scenario for a war other than a creeping front, and we cannot realize all our superiority in armored vehicles. Only by providing more than three or four times superiority over the enemy will we be able to try something.

            You think in terms of the Great Patriotic War with its tank breakthroughs and concentrated strikes on a limited sector of the front with deep coverage. Here we need to remember something else about a strategic offensive along the entire length of the front and throwing already mechanized units into the gaps then there was cavalry now tank divisions. In a modern warrior, deep coverage is not possible without a sufficient front width so that the advancing units from the flanks are not shot through by artillery with crossfire. Blitzkrieg is not possible in principle in the current realities, when there is no air superiority. The air defense systems did their job, deprived the aircraft of maneuver and pressed it to the ground.
      2. single-n
        single-n 7 February 2023 14: 51
        +5
        This is just an example of how the media and propaganda inflate the "overcome" using all sorts of prettiness without specifics. Type - mountains of corpses, huge losses, colossal victims, hellish meat grinder. And then, like a cold shower, dry numbers. And it becomes clear that 90% of all pathos is just zilch.

        Most interested in the report
        26 aircraft,
        .
        Almost a year of fighting, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine have more than 2 dozen more letaks at the front. And that's just the downed ones.
        1. Bingo
          Bingo 7 February 2023 15: 15
          -4
          Quote: Single-n
          Almost a year of fighting, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine have more than 2 dozen more letaks at the front

          ... from fresh deliveries - wow, how amazing! Disposables are still left, for 1 flight ... Well, just unbelievable! And so, yes, the Russian Ministry of Defense is lying all the time, they didn’t shoot down anyone, and all the aces of the Ukrainian Luftwaffe are in full combat readiness under steam, preparing to massively bomb Moscow!
          Your mustache has come unstuck
        2. Oleg Ogorod
          Oleg Ogorod 7 February 2023 15: 35
          +7
          26 aircraft for January. For the year they said almost 300 or 400. I'm already confused about the numbers of victories. Did the Armed Forces of Ukraine have had so many combat aircraft? And how many pilots? After all, at the beginning of the operation they said that there were only a hundred of them. Which was bombed at the airfields.
          But even our Ministry of Defense named a few pieces about the supply of aircraft from abroad for the Armed Forces of Ukraine over the past year.
          1. Bingo
            Bingo 7 February 2023 16: 53
            -2
            Quote: Oleg Ogorod
            Did the Armed Forces of Ukraine have had so many combat aircraft?

            Much more. At the landfill. Shaman for 1 sortie is not a trick, but more is not required. That's how they fly. Disposable.
            Quote: Oleg Ogorod
            But even our Ministry of Defense named a few pieces about the supply of aircraft from abroad for the Armed Forces of Ukraine over the past year.

            You must have been lethargic for a whole year?
            Kyiv, March 1. /TASS/. Bulgaria, Poland and Slovakia are transferring 70 military aircraft to Ukraine, which can be based on Polish airfields. This statement was made on Tuesday on its official Facebook page by the press service of the Naval Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

            This is only ONE single delivery.
            You already have BOTH mustaches peeled off and the forelock is hanging down
          2. single-n
            single-n 8 February 2023 10: 53
            0
            Theoretically, they could collect 300 pieces around the world. But this is if you buy the entire Air Force of some countries. In real life, the Air Force of Ukraine has about 200 units. The MoD reported 382 units as of 05.02.2023/XNUMX/XNUMX.
      3. Postcode
        Postcode 7 February 2023 15: 37
        -4
        with the mobilization potential of Ukraine in 3000000

        Where are these numbers from? Were they not mistaken?))) 3, even we will not be able to mobilize. we called up 000, and only recently we were able to put on, dress, equip, and train the latter .... I'm not talking about equipment and weapons.
        1. single-n
          single-n 7 February 2023 15: 53
          +3
          Perhaps if we had the support of the military-industrial complex of the entire NATO bloc, it would be easier? The boys have been working hard for 8 years. And we carried out optimization and biathlon.
          1. Oleg Ogorod
            Oleg Ogorod 7 February 2023 17: 04
            -1
            Yes, they did not prepare very well, the male population, the most able-bodied, that is, the young, worked in large numbers in Europe, bringing currency to families, and therefore to the country.
            The other part was in business in trade. They hit if they didn't manage to escape. And so they recruited into the army, mobilized mainly 40-50 year olds, and not the most hardworking. Maybe.
            So with the resource, not everything is so simple on the outskirts. But they will probably be able to find and train specialists for hymers and other Western equipment. They don't need very many. And this technique can do a lot of harm.
            By the way, the Ukrainian air defense was not destroyed, although at the beginning of the NMD they spoke (MO) about the complete air supremacy of the Russian Aerospace Forces. However, our planes do not risk flying over the outskirts. Bombs lie in warehouses without movement.
            And we do not observe landings from aircraft. But how much money has been spent on landing troops over the past years, to prepare them for jumping.
            This is about the quality of our military science in the conditions of modern warfare.
            Ever since the days of the USSR, I even remember a vivid film about the landing, In the zone of special attention ....
            And only the deputy in the rear was conditionally punished. Rather, they were simply transferred to another position.
            1. Metallurg_2
              Metallurg_2 7 February 2023 20: 55
              0
              And only the deputy on the rear was conditionally punished

              Suvorov said: six months of quartermastership - and you can shoot without trial.
          2. Oleg Ogorod
            Oleg Ogorod 7 February 2023 17: 16
            +2
            But what is even more striking is that conscripts who serve for a year and prepare for military operations (they must be trained and prepared) are then sent home. And this is in conditions when they are mobilizing age-olds who have served for a long time or have not served at all, who, in the traditions of the Soviet army, will be hastily allowed to shoot from a machine gun and shoot with an RPG-7 with an RPG-XNUMX.
            A year of training does not make a combat-ready fighter, but here "partisans" will be taught to fight in modern conditions in two weeks or a month?
            But no one asks the Ministry of Defense these questions, what do conscripts do for a year in the army. If they are not ready to participate in hostilities.
            By the way, conscripts were sent to Afghanistan, though not from the first day.
            1. ycuce234-san
              ycuce234-san 7 February 2023 22: 57
              +1
              Quote: Oleg Ogorod
              conscripts who serve for a year and prepare for hostilities (must be trained and prepared) are then sent home.


              A very unusual choice could have been made, a strategic choice, in favor of demography - the first such choice in history, on a planet of people experiencing a global demographic crisis. The partisans have already acquired children and grandchildren, and their early departure from life will hit the current economy, but will not hit the future, their future, the future of their offspring and the future of the country.
      4. Boris Sergeev
        Boris Sergeev 7 February 2023 16: 39
        +2
        The Russian Armed Forces are grinding by the thousands (only, for some reason, more is heard about Wagner), but not a single "regrouping", not a single "difficult decision" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been adopted. Kherson is the capital of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation. Like Zaporozhye.
    3. sanja.grw
      sanja.grw 7 February 2023 14: 51
      -1
      I also thought that the battles for the liberation of Solidar, according to musicians, are larger. If the 200s were taken out by Kamaz trucks. Or did Shoigu voice the losses of the enemy during the battles with the RF Armed Forces?
      1. single-n
        single-n 7 February 2023 15: 05
        +7
        Well, 100 bodies in you and a KAMAZ. You just need to believe less in all these stories about mountains of corpses and fields littered with bones. Remember the same Wagner posted 40 bodies in the video. Basically 1 platoon. And the pathos is like from the Battle of Borodino.
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 7 February 2023 15: 20
          -5
          Quote: Single-n
          Remember the same Wagner posted 40 bodies in the video. Basically 1 platoon. And the pathos is like from the Battle of Borodino.

          Maybe you should drive and count on the spot? Share your observations, open your eyes.
        2. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 7 February 2023 15: 23
          -5
          . Well, 100 bodies in you and a KAMAZ.

          20 KAMAZ trucks - here's 2000 bodies for you. Multiply by several caravans. This is only Soledar.
          Shoigu can state strictly verified facts. He cannot voice either the statements of the Wagnerites or the reports of the artillerymen. Cannot make a conclusion on the number of shipped Kamaz trucks, or the number of mounds with and without crosses. How many conclusions there are in the Russian morgue, so many dead Ukrainians. This is Konashenkov's business - to voice the death before ... or the death from above ...
          But this is my guess.
          1. single-n
            single-n 7 February 2023 16: 10
            +3
            It remains to find reports of dozens of KAMAZ vehicles clogged with bodies, and even making repeated trips. And you do not take into account what the bodies of civilians can also take out?
            I say it again. Do you have a description of the loss calculation method? Are you sure that the numbers announced are what the funeral teams buried and there is no intelligence data there? For example, they caught the "chief doctor" of some battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and he sang there about the losses of 100500% of the regular strength. Although there are no such losses in the neighboring part even 10%. Or did they hack the server of the local hospital and pull out data on the dead from there, further extrapolating the data to other medical institutions?
            In general, especially believing reports of losses during battles is a thankless task.
            The same tanks that were knocked out can go into battle again in a couple of weeks.
        3. Postcode
          Postcode 7 February 2023 15: 41
          +3
          Well, 100 bodies in you and KAMAZ

          Where are 100 bodies in KAMAZ, 50 cannot be loaded ....
          Remember the same Wagner posted 40 bodies in the video.

          This is almost two platoons .... and there are really a lot of corpses there, along the landings along the roads, in strong points, often, ours just sprinkle, put marks and move on. However, there are also enough of ours, Especially among musicians from among the inmates.
    4. Ezekiel 25-17
      Ezekiel 25-17 7 February 2023 14: 53
      +6
      The exact data is only at the gate, where Peter and Paul are on duty.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 7 February 2023 15: 07
        +2
        Judging by the prosperity of the funeral services business in Ukraine, Ukraine is now a "funeral super-Derzhava". Ride on, ragouli. They did not live in peace. Let the French Galicians thank you.
      2. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 7 February 2023 20: 57
        -1
        They can’t reach those gates, they go to another gate - one floor below.
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 7 February 2023 14: 17
    0
    The United States and its allies are trying to prolong the conflict as much as possible
    And we are not in the vein! We need to end the maydaun quickly and hard!
    1. Arzoo
      Arzoo 7 February 2023 14: 31
      0
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      The United States and its allies are trying to prolong the conflict as much as possible
      And we are not in the vein! We need to end the maydaun quickly and hard!

      I do not agree with the thesis about delay. No, they seek to inflict maximum damage, to put as many people as possible, but not to drag out. They have China, they have Iran, they have other things to do. There is no interest in dragging anything out.
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 7 February 2023 14: 54
      +9
      We need to end the maydaun quickly and hard!

      Let's be logical. Suppose - tomorrow our tank divisions went into deep coverage, and a month later the ukrovermacht in full force surrendered and Tsegabonia capitulated.

      AND?? What are your next steps? HOW are you going to type denazify all this gopa? This, even with the great Soviet Union, somehow did not work out convincingly, where can our non-current liberals ..

      In total - we cannot shoot them all - the gut is thin. To plant - it does not make sense, all the same, you have to release it. Re-educate - a mriynoe occupation, not a damn thing will come of it. Relocate to Taimyr - why the hell do we need them there? Deport to the West - yeah, so he took them all. Dead end.

      So - what kind of victory will it be? If we do not achieve the results that suit us?

      And there's only one way out... Which doesn't play along with a quick win, does it?
      1. single-n
        single-n 7 February 2023 15: 11
        +2
        Yes, as people did for 1000 years. We plant our ruler. We give him power support, and a little money. We form policemen from local. Tiny England thus ruled India, which is 100 times larger and more numerous. Moreover, there are enough loyal people. And if it were not for our gestures of goodwill and military impotence, with the abandonment of territories, there would be even more of them. And so yes. The longer we wait, the more they hate us.
      2. Asad
        Asad 7 February 2023 15: 17
        +3
        So we can’t financially last long, 1.8 trillion budget deficit for January. We are selling currency from the welfare fund at an accelerated pace. Will we have enough reserves for a long time?
      3. Nikolay310
        Nikolay310 7 February 2023 15: 19
        +9
        listen, in Kherson before the war there was a lot of pro-Ukrainian population. Russia occupied Kherson for a little less than a year. how many uprisings does it have at this time? 1,5 rallies in the first week have not yet shown who is in power here? and where did you get the idea that in Kirovohrad or Zaporozhye will be different??? there is no need to talk about Lviv yet, we are to Lviv like Rogozin is to the moon

        there is another example in Chechnya ... they actively resisted and fought with federal troops ...

        second, what then is the goal in Ukraine? destroy the entire male population? as I remember, even the Wehrmacht didn’t have such a task ... it’s somehow ridiculous to enroll everyone in Bandera ... the Korchinites must be judged, and the mobilized will have to be released ... how the Germans were released, who later in the GDR were the most obvious allies of the USSR. even if you kill all the Ukrainian men without exception in this territory, you will not destroy Bandera ... and the point here is not in the executions of Stalin and not in the amnesties of Khrushchev ... but in the fact that many bearers of this ideology live outside Ukraine.

        thirdly, if you destroy the entire population in this territory, then you are not afraid that the Poles will go there, who at the present time are not much different from Bandera ... the Russians DO NOT have so many people to populate Ukraine as well. our Russia itself is empty, only 5 million people live in the Far East ... and Russia itself is dying out at a rate of 2 million in 3 years ... actively replacing the indigenous population with Uzbeks and Tajiks ...

        Russia must offer sane Ukrainians a picture of the future ... not historical stories (even red, even white ideology), but an image of the future that will push this population to the desire to live and create together with the multinational Russian people ... only for this a lot must change in Russia itself ... Russia itself must become a powerful industrial power with developed science, education, and medicine. in fact, and not in the photo reports of shoigs, manturovs and other starlings
        1. Postcode
          Postcode 7 February 2023 15: 48
          +2
          A very sane comment. The crux of the matter is that there are no ours there and no one is waiting for us there. At present, this is clear to many, but no one knows how to tell everyone about this, because no one knows what to do with it further. Thousands are fighting in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine!!! residents of the DNR and LNR and not under duress!!! If at least something is clear with these territories, then Kherson is the clearest example of mass non-acceptance of the "Russian world". Half of the population refused to evacuate on principle. That's all, you can put an end to this ...
        2. sadam2
          sadam2 7 February 2023 16: 37
          +4
          Well, about Kherson, the mood was slightly different than reflected in the media. for Grozny - how the conjuncture will change, they will take up the old. not a single blond blue-eyed Russian lives there now
        3. paul3390
          paul3390 7 February 2023 18: 18
          +5
          Russia should offer sane Ukrainians a picture of the future

          Russia owes them nothing. She-owes only to its citizens.

          Chechnya is not an argument. We did not win there - the guarantor paid off them corny. And continues to buy back. Do we have enough finance for the same for Ukraine? Besides - let's be honest, haven't the Chechens achieved virtually everything they fought for, except formal independence? There is no Russian population there now, there is no Russian power there, there are no our laws there - isn't it so? One visibility. This is the price of their loyalty so far, and loyalty not to Russia, but to the current guarantor. What's next? After all, it is not eternal, and circumstances can turn around in different ways.. Do you want the same for Ukraine?

          We do not have the task of destroying the entire male population of Ukraine, such as trying on a cart axle. It is necessary - to destroy only the most stubborn. At the front, this is the most convenient place to at least fairly thin them out .. It will be easier later on.

          As for love, the Soviet Union gave them everything above the roof of all nishtyakov. Where is more? And what? What is the result? Alas, this is not the kind of audience that can be won over with gifts. Ragulyo, sir .. The Poles are very well aware of this. Only beat. And nothing else. Then they will hate, but at least respect and fear. And for gifts - they will also hate, but at the same time they will also despise and spoil openly .. The choice is ours - which is better ..
      4. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 7 February 2023 20: 58
        0
        Total - we can’t shoot them all - the gut is thin

        Do you think you'll run out of ammo?
  3. steelmaker
    steelmaker 7 February 2023 14: 17
    +9
    "The United States and its allies are trying to prolong the conflict as much as possible,"
    Well, if Putin and Shoigu do not seek to prolong the conflict, then what has been done to prevent these weapons from reaching the front? The same armor she rides on something. What has been done so that the APU does not have fuel? Russia has everything to complete this SVO in the shortest possible time. Ukraine has nothing, and they are fighting with us on an equal footing.
  4. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 7 February 2023 14: 18
    0
    This is all good, but it is important to think about how to win and what it means to "win"
    1. EvilCommunist
      EvilCommunist 7 February 2023 14: 20
      -8
      The President has already said...
      until the last khokhukrainian, so until the last khokhukrainian.
      Hochukrainians will run out, let's take on NATO
  5. EvilCommunist
    EvilCommunist 7 February 2023 14: 18
    -7
    in the society of the Russian Federation, the average person is ready and there is confidence in the ideology "the whole world is in ruins" there is no fear - there is courage.
    Do Western burghers have? How, let's say, does the average Italian chew his pasta, or the average Spaniard nibble on his jamon, or the average American sip his cacacola, that he can turn into a handful of radioactive ash because of the ambitions of their leaders?
    1. Asad
      Asad 7 February 2023 15: 22
      +3
      Have you been defrosted recently? The days of Pashka Korchagin are long gone.
  6. Commissioner_Wolf
    Commissioner_Wolf 7 February 2023 14: 19
    +11
    Will anyone announce our losses a year later?
    Re-equipment of the Orbital constellation? Merciful Lord, woke up after 22 years of peace, and a whole year of NWO!!!! FINALLY !!! wassat
    As for the BAM, I hope the presence of such an array of railways will remind many Chinese Far Eastern companies that the Far East is not their patrimony, but our land. hi
    1. Ural resident
      Ural resident 7 February 2023 16: 32
      +2
      Quote: Commissioner_Wolf
      Will anyone announce our losses a year later?
      Re-equipment of the Orbital constellation? Merciful Lord, woke up after 22 years of peace, and a whole year of NWO!!!! FINALLY !!! wassat
      As for the BAM, I hope the presence of such an array of railways will remind many Chinese Far Eastern companies that the Far East is not their patrimony, but our land. hi

      "beloved by all" Yura Podolyak voiced. About 30 thousand killed and under 90 thousand wounded. I don’t know only - his personal fantasies or custom-made stuffing.
  7. Xenofont
    Xenofont 7 February 2023 14: 21
    +2
    Here is what Boris Rozhin posted.
    Ukrainian casualties range from 0,96 million to 1,8 million according to Mossad, US Command, Conflict Intelligence Team (@CITeam), New York Times (@nytimes)

    > Soaring Death Toll Gives Grim Insight Into Russian Ukrainian Tactics
    > Moscow Kiev is sending poorly trained recruits, including convicts, to the front lines in eastern Ukraine to pave the way for more seasoned fighters, US and allied officials say. - NYT*

    Now to the details. Three and a half months ago we published our checkmate. model (https://wartears.org/posts/math-model/), which described in detail how we estimate the number and losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. All this time - and even before: the idea with the assessment came to us back in June, shortly after the launch of the project - we were very curious to look at other assessment methods. To our disappointment, we didn't see any.

    And finally, a few days ago, a CIT publication (https://notes.citeam.org/en-dispatch-feb-3-4) was posted, referring to a New York Times article (https://www.nytimes.com /2023/02/02/us/politics/ukraine-russia-casualties.html), which estimates the losses of Russian troops. Finally, we saw at least some method of calculating losses.

    Yesterday it turned out that our estimate of the number of those killed was also confirmed by the Mossad (https://t.me/wartearsorg/160), and, indirectly, by a retired US colonel (https://t.me/rybar/43319). We were curious what would happen if we turned the arrow and plugged our data and estimates of APU losses into the @CITeam methodology.

    Here's what happened:

    1. The number of dead - 180 thousand - we take from our estimate, which has already coincided with the statements of officials and experts several times with good accuracy.

    2. Further (quote from CIT) "we carefully assume that the number of missing people can be from a third of those buried to an equal number" and we get the number of missing people - from 60 to 180 thousand people.

    3. That is, the total number of dead and missing Ukrainian military is from 240 to 360 thousand.

    4. (CIT again) "To count the wounded, we use ratios from 1:3 to 1:4 to the dead", which gives us from 720 to 1440 thousand wounded.

    5. (And once again CIT) Thus, we estimate the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from 960 to 1800 thousand people.

    Conclusion: according to the MOSSAD, according to the methodology of CIT and NYT, Ukraine has lost from 3% to 6% of the total population.

    * We - yes, somewhat loosely - tweaked the original title to match the data.

    It was a saying, but we are still working on a fairy tale (that is, a detailed analysis). We want to analyze in detail and in all seriousness why such methods cannot be used, and what exactly are their significant shortcomings.
    1. EvilCommunist
      EvilCommunist 7 February 2023 14: 25
      -1
      that is, at such a pace of the SVO for 10 years, the Ukrainians capable of holding weapons in their hands will still run out
    2. antiquity
      antiquity 7 February 2023 14: 58
      -2
      Sorry, but refer to Rozhin, to Yurka Whose Crimea is a difficult question Podolyak and them like a riff-raff - bad form.
      1. Xenofont
        Xenofont 7 February 2023 15: 40
        -3
        Offer yours so that I can appreciate your tone! Here you emerge from other dimensions and give assessments that are not supported by anything! Boring!
    3. single-n
      single-n 7 February 2023 15: 01
      +8
      Losses of Ukraine range from 0,96 million to 1,8 million people

      Mdya. If the APU had lost 1,5 million, the war would have either ended or we would have stood near Poltava. Storytellers. Here one of the commentators apparently read such nonsense and argued that the losses were 1 to 50. Or even more. Up to 1 to 80 like dreaming.
      . If something, ALL the male population of military age in Ukraine is about 10 million. This is for 2019 WITHOUT LDNR and Crimea. And given that it usually takes a quarter to mobilize at best, the APU should have ended by now.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 7 February 2023 15: 42
        -2
        At the moment, no more than 20 million inhabitants remain in Ukraine. It would have been impossible to mobilize more than 1,5 million. Some are already "resting" in the next world. The latter are already being taken to the front.
        The CIT publication is clearly a lie.
        But the mobilization potential in Ukraine has almost exhausted itself
    4. Xenofont
      Xenofont 7 February 2023 15: 38
      -1
      What kind of patients are minus the head!? Did I come up with this? It's just that flocks of three-legged people settled on the VO!
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 7 February 2023 16: 54
        -4
        These are cissos. Just go over all the accounts. If you say bad things about Russia, you will immediately get pluses, good - minuses.
        However, no answer. Then the figure is corrected and reflects the real opinion of the majority.
  8. Illanatol
    Illanatol 7 February 2023 14: 32
    +6
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    And we are not in the vein! We need to end the maydaun quickly and hard!


    It is for you. The Kremlin may think otherwise. Moreover, the main enemy is not the Ukrainians at all. They are just pawns in this protracted game.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 8 February 2023 01: 28
      0
      Quote: Illanatol
      They are just pawns in this protracted game.

      Well then, you need to slowly and gently! Here, in general, everything is like: wassat
  9. MONEY
    MONEY 7 February 2023 14: 32
    +6
    Another chatter from the plywood general !!! Already sick of him and his gang in M.O
  10. dump22
    dump22 7 February 2023 14: 33
    +2
    in January, the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost more than 6,5 thousand military personnel, 26 aircraft, 7 helicopters, 341 armored vehicles, including tanks and 40 MLRS installations.


    Yeah. Even if we lost, for example, 2 times less (which would be just an excellent ratio of losses for the conditions of our offensive), does this mean 3 thousand killed per month?

    And the West compensates for the loss of equipment. The tanks are already moving with might and main.
    1. EvilCommunist
      EvilCommunist 7 February 2023 14: 37
      0
      so far they have brought only 1 taknk and that one only to Poland and that one just to look
    2. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 7 February 2023 15: 44
      -2
      The loss ratio, according to the reports of the fighters themselves, is approximately 1 to 8
      1. dump22
        dump22 7 February 2023 17: 24
        +2
        approximately 1 to 8


        Somehow I'm a little doubtful of such figures.
        For such a ratio of losses, it is necessary that our offensive proceed approximately like in the Manchurian operation (the swift defeat of the Kwantung Army in 1945).
        It was then that the ratio of irretrievable losses was similar to 1: 8 - 12 thousand of ours and 84 thousand of the Japanese.
        I don’t know of any more offensives where the attackers have such a ratio.
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 8 February 2023 01: 33
          0
          Quote from: dump22
          I don't know any attack

          No one is studying this, shit-outdated .... belay
          And Vasilevsky - Strength!
          1. dump22
            dump22 8 February 2023 18: 43
            0
            And Vasilevsky - Strength!


            Of course strength.
            And also overwhelming superiority in all combat parameters (well, for example, we had as many as 18 times more tanks than the Japanese) plus, of course, the surprise factor (they called the Japanese ambassador in Moscow, declared war on him and at the same time went on the offensive in the Far East).
  11. Illanatol
    Illanatol 7 February 2023 14: 36
    +7
    Quote: steel maker
    Ukraine has nothing, and they are fighting with us on an equal footing.


    There is nothing... Ukraine received more weapons in the last year than the Bundeswehr received in... twenty years.
    1. dump22
      dump22 7 February 2023 15: 20
      0
      than the Bundeswehr in ... twenty years


      Since 1991, the Germans have only been continuously reducing and shrinking their Bundeswehr.
      In 1990 it had more than half a million people and more than 7 thousand tanks.
      And now they have only 183 thousand people in the ranks (of which only 62 thousand in the ground forces!) And 320 tanks!
  12. 23424636
    23424636 7 February 2023 14: 50
    +2
    Bam first of all.?! Stalin removed the rails from the BAM in order to lay them to Stalingrad and thereby transferred troops and ammunition to the besieged city, and our business is first of all. Coal must be exported to China. . It would be a good criterion for the work of the Defense Ministry to determine not the number of dead enemy soldiers and equipment that was destroyed three times, but the size of the territory conquered in battles over a period of time.
    1. your vsr 66-67
      your vsr 66-67 7 February 2023 15: 14
      +2
      Quote: 23424636
      Bam first of all.?! Stalin removed the rails from the BAM in order to lay them to Stalingrad and thereby transferred troops and ammunition to the besieged city, and our business is first of all. Coal must be exported to China. . It would be a good criterion for the work of the Defense Ministry to determine not the number of dead enemy soldiers and equipment that was destroyed three times, but the size of the territory conquered in battles over a period of time.

      Well, about BAM you said frivolously. It is of strategic importance! It is unlikely that you know about the events of 1969, when the situation in the Far East became very aggravated due to the conflict with China. And the Trans-Siberian was laid right along the border, and no one knows what will happen tomorrow in the Far East. And cut off the Trans-Siberian, and a huge territory of our country will be cut off! Yes, and the road was laid along the Trans-Siberian.
      And BAM, the oligarchs built it not only for coal. Putin is looking far ahead.
    2. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 7 February 2023 15: 47
      0
      And BAM why disassemble? What at us the piece of iron is overloaded? Seems to work so far
  13. faiver
    faiver 7 February 2023 14: 52
    +1
    I'm more interested in the issue of destruction of railway tracks on the western border of Ukraine...
    1. Alexey Sommer
      Alexey Sommer 7 February 2023 17: 03
      +1
      Quote: faiver
      I'm more interested in the issue of destruction of railway tracks on the western border of Ukraine...

      The experience of the partisan movement in the Great Patriotic War showed that undermining and destroying railway tracks is not effective. Movement is restored during the day completely.
      It is much better to derail trains with military supplies directly.
      Why we do not do this is a big mystery. No one gave a clear answer.
      1. Boris Sergeev
        Boris Sergeev 7 February 2023 17: 31
        +2
        Bennett (the prime minister of Israel) was given promises not to shoot Zelensky. Probably, promises were made to someone else not to shoot at military supplies.
  14. alexander 66
    alexander 66 7 February 2023 14: 52
    +5
    I don’t know, after Kharkov I personally don’t have confidence from the word at all either in him or in the general. One window dressing, to start a military operation and not have a single command, the right hand does not know what the left is doing. Ukrainians with Ami are preparing a very serious multi-level attack, and I have only hope for a Russian soldier.
  15. antiquity
    antiquity 7 February 2023 14: 55
    +4
    Quote: insafufa
    Every day there are more experienced fighters and commanders, therefore, the interaction and training of the army is improving.

    Really only in one of the armies. The other one froze in place. holy naivete
    1. Alexey Sommer
      Alexey Sommer 7 February 2023 17: 06
      +4
      Quote from starina
      Really only in one of the armies. The other one froze in place. holy naivete

      That's right!
      Napoleon also said:
      You can not fight with the enemy for a long time, he will learn to fight

      And also:
      War loves victory and does not like duration.

      Quote from Sun Tzu's The Art of War. Written several thousand years ago.
      What has changed in the basic principles of war since then, I don’t know for sure, but we, as usual, are not looking for easy ways request
      1. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 7 February 2023 21: 05
        0
        War loves victory and hates duration.

        Maybe war loves, but only we don’t have war, but NWO.
  16. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 7 February 2023 15: 07
    -1
    protecting the people of Ukraine from genocide by the Zelensky regime.


    But ukroho. shit doesn't interest me at all!
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 7 February 2023 15: 49
      0
      In fact, these are our future fellow citizens wassat
  17. Cartalon
    Cartalon 7 February 2023 15: 19
    +3
    For a whole month they told us about the Bakhmut meat grinder, we even believed it, and here are those hello, in those buildings that the Ukrainians are clearly preparing not 6 and a half thousand people, which means they will attack in the spring, and not us.
  18. Tagan
    Tagan 7 February 2023 15: 40
    -5
    Quote: Single-n
    Well, 100 bodies in you and a KAMAZ. You just need to believe less in all these stories about mountains of corpses and fields littered with bones. Remember the same Wagner posted 40 bodies in the video. Basically 1 platoon. And the pathos is like from the Battle of Borodino.

    I, perhaps, will believe those who directly participated in the hostilities, rather than you, who pulled the information out of nowhere.
    So, a familiar person, who has been participating in the database for several years in a row in the DPR, recently said that there are a huge number of corpses of "warriors of Light" in the fields and plantings, despite the fact that they are trying to collect them. The stink is terrible, especially when the sun warms up.
    1. single-n
      single-n 7 February 2023 16: 32
      +3
      How much is huge? 1000-2000-10.000? Without numerical values, you can argue for years to no avail. There is a good Soviet cartoon about a monkey and a boa constrictor. A series where she counted nuts. And there was such a dialogue.
      - 10 is a bunch
      Da
      -a 3?
      - 3 is not a bunch!
      -a 6 ?
      - ..You made me feel confused. I know that a lot is when a lot!

      And one dead cow will provide you with a stink for hundreds of meters around. I had the opportunity to see for myself. I also watch the stories of those who have been fighting there for many years. They somehow did not talk about the fields littered with bodies. And given that the front line was moving in both directions, you still need to figure out whose soldiers are lying there. And how many of these bodies are civilians.
      And yes. I indicated where I get the information from. This is Wagner's official TG channel. A lot of people have seen this video. I guess several million. I didn't come up with this.
  19. polynet
    polynet 7 February 2023 15: 43
    -3
    Quote from: dmi.pris1
    Well, they have a road to go there. To hell. However, 6 and a half thousand, isn’t it enough for an estimated loss of 170000 dead vuks in a year?

    the Americans asked Zaluzhny where in the summer of 2022 200.000 people disappeared from the statistics. So there the number is already probably more than half a million deactivated.
  20. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 7 February 2023 16: 24
    +3
    Russians kill Russians. With the money that was stolen from Russia.
    PS Zelensky and his entourage have been given immunity guarantees. At least Peskov did not deny this information. But in fact, this is precisely the conclusion. Oligarchy loot, billions of dollars of accounts, yachts, estates, villas, other obituaries. It's all about concepts.
    1. Boris Sergeev
      Boris Sergeev 7 February 2023 17: 28
      +1
      "Denazification" in Ukraine goes to the level of a colonel. Generals can do nothing for themselves.
      1. dump22
        dump22 7 February 2023 18: 22
        -2
        Generals can do nothing for themselves.


        Not quite.
        8 (and if the Ukrainians do not lie about Major General Dmitry Ulyanov, then already 9) Russian generals and 12 Ukrainian generals have already died in the NMD.
        1. Boris Sergeev
          Boris Sergeev 7 February 2023 18: 49
          +1
          However, the General Staff and other Bankova with Vladimirskaya stand untouched. Has anyone been there for a long time? But even where there is, everything is untouched.
          1. dump22
            dump22 7 February 2023 19: 44
            -3
            However, the General Staff and other Bankova with Vladimirskaya stand untouched.


            They can't get it. Apparently strong air defense in that area.
            And discard the illusion that we can supposedly hit the window with a rocket.

            And where they can get - of course they shoot there:
            https://www.mk.ru/politics/2022/10/10/poyavilas-karta-nanesennykh-po-kievu-udarov.html
            There was a map of strikes inflicted on Kyiv

            ... the missile hit the main building of the SBU (Vladimirskaya St., 33) and the monument to Grushevsky in Kyiv, located one kilometer from it.
            Also, the rocket fell near the building of the presidential administration of Ukraine, unofficially called the "house with chimeras." It is located at st. Bankovaya, 10...
            Explosions are reported near the building of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine (Mikhail Hrushevsky Street, 5)...
            1. Boris Sergeev
              Boris Sergeev 7 February 2023 20: 25
              +1
              Of course, they could not get into Zelensky in the same Izyum. Rocket in the window...
              1. dump22
                dump22 8 February 2023 18: 23
                0
                Of course, they could not get into Zelensky in the same Izyum.


                Our rockets fly according to the coordinates entered into them in advance (even before launch).
                But Zelensky's office for some reason did not bother to send us in advance the program of his visit with the exact geographical coordinates and the time when he would be at these coordinates.

                Here Dudayev was successfully destroyed by a rocket at one time, because (thanks to the "bought" person in his close circle) they knew exactly his coordinates and the time when he would arrive at them.
  21. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 7 February 2023 17: 52
    -2
    Marshal Shoigu's figures are very good.
  22. cash
    cash 8 February 2023 19: 14
    0
    oh, I hope this fucked up reindeer breeder is waiting for a tribunal, bitch, he attached all of his people to the military prosecutor’s office and to the military construction site, plundered the loot, my daughter in Dubai is fattening on government money ... evil is not enough