The German edition told readers that Russian troops returned to the Kharkiv region again

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The German edition told readers that Russian troops returned to the Kharkiv region again

Materials are published in the German press, which state the return of Russian troops to the Kharkov region. In particular, Lennard Simons, Timo Stukenberg and Jakob Bauer published an up-to-date map in the Die Zeit publication, which shows that the Russian army partially regained control of the previously lost territories northwest of Svatovo, and also crossed the border of the Kharkiv region from side of the Luhansk region.

The map, presented to a Western audience, shows that Russian troops are only a few kilometers northeast of Kupyansk.





At the same time, it is stated that the RF Armed Forces have taken under fire (and in most directions under physical control) the roads leading to Bakhmut (Artemovsk), which makes the stay of Ukrainian troops there extremely difficult and leading to new and new losses. At the same time, German journalists write that “Ukrainian troops are stubbornly defending themselves,” however, the examples of the Russian advance clearly make it clear to the Western public that the situation for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in these sectors of the front is very difficult.

In the comments, German readers complain that "Western aid for Ukraine has been scarce" and that "it comes late." They criticize Scholz (already by inertia, apparently).

A few comments from frustrated readers of Die Zeit to the material about the advance of Russian troops (some are at least surprising):

Reading this, my gut shrinks. I find it unbearable that Russia is gaining such momentum while the Euro-Democrats are still debating whether Ukraine should be armed and equipped.

They write that the Russians took the village of Sacco and Vanzetti. I am almost sure that there is no such geographical name in the Bakhmut area.

A typical Russian doctrine would simply break Ukraine's neck, despite the fact that it gains a qualitative advantage thanks to NATO technology.

Supply Ukraine with much more ammunition! Need appropriate orders for industry.

Some comments are in many ways reminiscent of the well-known Western paradigm “The Russians are coming...” True, it is impossible to reliably say how many of these comments are those left by real Germans, and how many are bots that flooded the media space and aggressive Ukrainian refugees.
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    1. +5
      7 February 2023 12: 47
      All this situation, pressure is needed as an argument in order to supply more weapons.
      1. +5
        7 February 2023 13: 01
        In the West, they say that now even tanks and fighters will not help the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I wonder how many people actually live in Kharkov today?
      2. -1
        7 February 2023 13: 02
        Arms deliveries to Ukraine depend on "injection" in the press in the same way as on the phases of the moon. That is, no way.
    2. +9
      7 February 2023 12: 51
      And if we return to Magdeburg for our training ground? bully Anything can be.
      1. +3
        7 February 2023 16: 22
        And in Wittstock it would also be nice, our 2s5 looked good there
    3. +4
      7 February 2023 12: 53
      Germany has already been occupied by the Ukrainians. What will they choose: Graveyard in Ukraine or something else. Who betrayed once, will betray the second. The question is for what money?
    4. +9
      7 February 2023 12: 56
      despite the fact that thanks to NATO technology, it receives a qualitative superiority.

      Damn, the world of pink ponies))) Well, at least they began to realize that Russia has at least some equipment, shit, of course, because it’s not NATO, but even so they don’t run with cuttings from shovels, like a year earlier laughing
      It seems that it was Russia that made all the wars in the 21st century, and not the United States, but the T-90 harness with cardboard, not the Abrams
      1. +7
        7 February 2023 13: 03
        It is unlikely that this is from awareness. In my opinion, this is pumping up society with fears - they say that Russians are not at all natives with bows, Russians have something to fight with. Now they are fighting in Ukraine, and then ...... And as a result, the population, which is not afraid of the natives, begins to be very afraid of the Russians. Who will come and rape Frau Martha's decrepit cat. And they will eat Frau Martha herself.
        And now you're looking - and the demonstrations against the supply of weapons to Ukraine are getting smaller, and the protesters themselves are getting quieter ...
    5. +6
      7 February 2023 12: 59
      Hello dear Russians. I am writing from Poland and I am Polish. Do you like Poland and Poles?
      1. +11
        7 February 2023 13: 05
        Quote from Piotr
        Do you like Poland and Poles?

        and you Russia and the Russians?
        1. +7
          7 February 2023 13: 07
          The Poles want peace between Poland and Russia.
          1. +9
            7 February 2023 13: 08
            Quote from Piotr
            The Poles want peace between Poland and Russia.

            So the Russians want the same. But something of your Morawiecki and Duda is somewhere in the wrong direction. And Walesa did express a wish for the "final solution of the Russian question"
          2. +6
            7 February 2023 13: 08
            The Poles want peace between Poland and Russia.
            What can not be said about your Russophobic government.
          3. +7
            7 February 2023 13: 11
            Quote from Piotr
            The Poles want peace between Poland and Russia.

            right? judging by the statements of your political leadership, they don’t want to at all!
            And Russia really wants peace, really, but the Anglo-Saxon world, together with Bandera from the outskirts, and your bosses are forcing us to fight, the bear was awakened and angered .........
          4. +4
            7 February 2023 13: 27
            And why choose all sorts of Morawiecki and Kaczynski? Or is it that no one asks the ordinary Polish voter about anything either?
          5. +1
            7 February 2023 15: 24
            Quote from Piotr
            The Poles want peace between Poland and Russia.

            Who is Mateusz Morawiecki, Andrzej Duda is interested in the opinion of the Poles? You must be joking
            1. 0
              8 February 2023 08: 56
              Are these two Poles? Or citizens of neighboring states, and Polish - only part-time?
              The same Sikorsky, for example, is a citizen of the United Kingdom.
          6. +4
            7 February 2023 15: 27
            Quote from Piotr
            The Poles want peace between Poland and Russia.

            I think that not all Poles want peace. At school, there were three Poles in my class, two guys and one girl. Polka and another guy were ordinary guys, just like us, and the third one constantly hissed like a snake and emanated bile, just some kind of Pilsudski. Yes
            1. +1
              7 February 2023 21: 15
              and the third constantly hissed like a snake

              So G-d rewarded the Poles with the tongue of a snake, because they are deceitful.
          7. 0
            8 February 2023 08: 58
            . The Poles want peace between Poland and Russia.

            In fact, we are aware that the peoples of Poland, Germany and our closest neighbors are neutral towards us and do not want war. Everything except the Baltics. And if they continue in this spirit, they will be the only ones in Europe who should be afraid of something. But they themselves are to blame. Here are just yours, it is your politicians, under the direction of the United States, are pushing you into the crucible of war. The United States absolutely does not care about you. They care about their ambitions.
            Our politicians are much more adequate in this matter. And if you yourself do not get involved in the war and do not persecute the Russian people, then you have nothing to fear. Nobody needs a war, and Russia has no imperial ambitions. Everything that the Western media tells you about Russia is not true - a blatant lie
      2. +7
        7 February 2023 13: 05
        And what about ordinary people? The government doesn’t like Kanesh and his politics .. But .. bourgeois everywhere .. in power .. And the main bourgeois, overseas ..
        1. +6
          7 February 2023 13: 13
          Did their government shoot our soldiers in the back? Or did our government, who fled from concentration camps, hand over their government to the Hans? No need la-la! There is no trust or respect for the Poles. Enemies. Except for Janek, Guslik, Olgert and Sharik, of course. Well, Hans Kloss, of course, and a Polish astronaut. Prostitutes, homosexuals and lesbians have increased in Poland, but there are still no astronauts. After the USSR, it did not increase. And who was your friend of the log?!
      3. +6
        7 February 2023 13: 05
        Do you like Poland and Poles?
        Poles like it when three in a tank are not embarrassed by dogs ...
      4. +7
        7 February 2023 13: 06
        Quote from Piotr
        Do you like Poland and Poles?

        Poland and Poles are different. The closer to the countryside, the more adequate the Poles, the more interesting they are. The youth of Poland was washed through the media by the Americans by 90%
      5. +6
        7 February 2023 13: 10
        Poland and Poles like! hi But the policy is not very ... Not even very much! stop
      6. +3
        7 February 2023 13: 11
        Sorry, but no. Very no. Our front-line soldiers treated the Poles with contempt and noted that the Germans were more decent.
      7. +5
        7 February 2023 13: 11
        Quote from Piotr
        Hello dear Russians. I am writing from Poland and I am Polish. Do you like Poland and Poles?

        Poland is not, Poles are quite normal people
      8. +4
        7 February 2023 13: 13
        Hello dear Russians. I am writing from Poland
        Duda, ask directly, not Yuli: "maybe we will divide the outskirts in a brotherly way", Poles west, Russian east? laughing
        1. 0
          7 February 2023 13: 19
          Poland does not want to change borders ......
          1. +1
            7 February 2023 13: 30
            Poland does not want or the Poles do not want? But what about "Polish from Mozha to Mozha"?
          2. +2
            7 February 2023 13: 44
            You see, dear, it is possible that you are not a very bad person and have a normal attitude towards Russia and the Russians, but all the dogs of your government were hung on you. Just like the Russians, they hang all the dogs, his governments. smile
          3. +5
            7 February 2023 14: 15
            And what about those Poles from "Grom" and the crews of self-propelled guns krab, whom the customs officers registered with their feet first to their homeland from Ukraine? Did they fall for the love of art? But not ten or twenty of them were transported in the form of carcasses. For more.
      9. +3
        7 February 2023 13: 18
        To find out, you need to visit and see in real life how ordinary Poles will react to me. The rest is propaganda.
      10. +2
        7 February 2023 14: 45
        Well, he never spoke. I think that the Slavs can always get along.
      11. +3
        7 February 2023 15: 46
        Quote from Piotr
        Hello dear Russians. I am writing from Poland and I am Polish. Do you like Poland and Poles?

        I am glad that you have become interested in relations between Russians and Poles. Maybe we can avoid the worst, global world war. Or will the (USA) Omerigantsi be able to push the Poles to their death? In Russia, they know and remember the names of the Great Poles - Przhevalsky, Adam Rzhevusky, Felix Krukovsky, Marshal Rokossovsky, Felix Dzerzhinsky, Dmitry Shostakovich, Oleg Ivanovich Yankovsky, Konstantin Eduardovich Tsiolkovsky - a brilliant autodidact scientist who studied the theory of astronautics and the problems of space exploration comes from the ancient gentry kind of coat of arms Yastrzhembets.
      12. +1
        7 February 2023 17: 27
        As a Russian, Poland and its people seem to me the most deserving of my respect among all the countries of the former Soviet bloc. No matter how paradoxical. Reason? Poland was almost the only one who resisted in 1939. And even, it seems, took a full part in the finale of the tragedy in 1945. The rest either fought on the side of the Germans, or, for example, quietly worked all these years for the Reichsmarks. And a week after the collapse of the German capital, they rebelled .. Did those same Reichsmarks stop bringing anything from Berlin?
      13. 0
        7 February 2023 22: 02
        How can I answer you! Crazy ..... And the Poles were not bad at football, once!
      14. 0
        8 February 2023 03: 20
        A business proposal to you from all over Russia and let's finish this mess:
        1. 0
          8 February 2023 07: 44
          The offer is not great. Especially in terms of geographic location.
          1. 0
            8 February 2023 09: 06
            Why not much? I'm quite satisfied. "Lviv volost? Let them take it away." That we don't have much land. Tribaltieka can only be added to Belarus and that’s it good
    6. +3
      7 February 2023 12: 59
      Reading this, my gut shrinks. I find it unbearable that Russia is gaining such momentum while the Euro-Democrats are still debating whether Ukraine should be armed and equipped.
      Castor oil, sir, and the inside will expand to ..... if you have time to run. request
      They write that the Russians took the village of Sacco and Vanzetti. I am almost sure that there is no such geographical name in the Bakhmut area.:
      And how does your higher education allow you to use the card? Or just comics? request
      Typical Russian Doctrine Will Just Break Ukraine's Neck, despite the fact that thanks to NATO technology, it receives a qualitative superiority.
      recourse Hmmm .... it's a pity that the GDP was not imbued with such a fruitful idea, otherwise we would of course ... recourse
      Supply Ukraine with much more ammunition! Need relevant orders for industry
      .Yes, they would be happy, but at whose expense is the banquet? Europe has swelled so much money for more expensive energy carriers that the prospect of taking out at least all the black soil from Ukraine is no longer warm. request
    7. +3
      7 February 2023 13: 00
      Judging by the comments, these Germans support Ukraine, they are very "worried" about it. About this here
      Reading this, gut shrinks. I find it unbearable that Russia is gaining such momentum
      And nothing else shrinks in anticipation that everyone who wants to "defeat Russia on the battlefield" begins to feel disappointment and fear, and suddenly they get to us.
    8. +4
      7 February 2023 13: 18
      There is an old belief that if you left, but left something, you will have to return.
    9. +8
      7 February 2023 13: 24
      The Russian city of Kharkov must return home. In addition, it is the center of the defense and nuclear industries.
      It must not be left to the Ukronazis, just like Dnepropetrovsk-Ekaterinoslav, Zaporozhye (motor-sich), Nikolaev and Odessa.
    10. 0
      7 February 2023 13: 26
      AND?! What is the article about? They will approach Berlin, write, we will discuss.
    11. +3
      7 February 2023 13: 26
      Do not rate comments too highly. Which already reads "Die Zeit", and comments there even less people. Most of them, of course, are the classics of the West, who believe the nonsense of the pro-state media. In general, you should always consider 2 worlds in each country. Some people believe the government and repeat everything, but there are other people who are against the supply of tanks and against Zelensky and want Russia to win.
    12. +1
      7 February 2023 13: 27
      that thanks to NATO technology, it receives a qualitative superiority.
      fool Son, on the battlefield there is no qualitative, quantitative, territorial or moral superiority, there is only victory. The rest is wrappers with poop instead of candy. request I'm sorry, that's how it works.
    13. +1
      7 February 2023 13: 32
      I would like to return to Kharkov as soon as possible.
      One question is why smoke screens are not used during the assault.
    14. +2
      7 February 2023 15: 40
      Typical Russian Doctrine Will Just Break Ukraine's Neck

      The only sane thought soldier
    15. 0
      7 February 2023 20: 31
      What bots, it's time to stop believing in this nonsense that the government is one thing, but citizens think differently, both in Europe and in the USA, the majority is against Russia.
    16. 0
      7 February 2023 21: 15
      A few comments from frustrated readers of Die Zeit to the material about the advance of Russian troops (some are at least surprising):

      There are other opinions, but how disgusting it is to hear German speech.
    17. +1
      7 February 2023 21: 16
      A few comments from frustrated readers:
      Reading this, my gut shrinks. I find it unbearable that Russia is gaining such momentum while Euro-Democrats are still debating whether Ukraine should be armed and equipped



      On the same wavelength, Ukraine and Europe.
      1. +1
        7 February 2023 23: 20
        no, but what about us?!
        and that's all hoh-ly
    18. 0
      8 February 2023 03: 15
      If Russian troops do not return to the Kyiv, Sumy, Nikolaev and Odessa regions of the former Ukraine forever, this will be the largest geopolitical catastrophe for Russia and a tragedy for many generations of the Russian people for centuries!

      Putin has no right before many generations of ancestors and descendants now to give the mother of Russian cities Kyiv to the Poles, and the hero city of Odessa to the Romanians under the US Navy base!
    19. -2
      8 February 2023 09: 41
      Who is strong in Ukrainian geography? Tell me, where are the settlements in Ukraine? Sacco and Vanzetti?
    20. -1
      14 February 2023 08: 33
      Germans have cognitive dissonance. An unaccountable suffering lives in their souls from the fact that eighty years ago they "were not enough for one battalion to take Moscow." And it all seems to them that the chance has come to take some kind of revenge for their then humiliation. It is true that the roots of the present war must be sought in the past war.

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