Austrian Colonel: There are many military personnel of NATO countries in Ukraine, there will be no problems with tank crews

NATO countries will not officially send their military personnel to Ukraine, there is no need for this, since many professional soldiers who have become mercenaries are on the territory of this country and are participating in hostilities. This was stated by the military strategist of the Austrian Ministry of Defense, Colonel Markus Reisner.

The Austrian colonel spoke at a press conference organized by the Austrian Institute for European and Security Policy (AIES), the topic of his speech was, as you might guess, the conflict in Ukraine. Answering a reporter's question about supplies tanks Kyiv, as well as the inability to quickly train Ukrainian crews to operate Western armored vehicles, Reisner said that there are a large number of NATO military personnel in Ukraine, but as mercenaries.

According to him, there will be no problem with the control of tanks, since they can be supplied with crews, and a regular soldier who has retired from the army of any NATO country is no longer considered a soldier, so it is not necessary to say that the military of one or another country is in Ukraine. . So NATO does not officially send anyone to Ukraine, but there will be someone to manage the tanks on occasion.

I take off my uniform, sign a contract and go to Ukraine. And now I am not a member of the Austrian armed forces, but a contract mercenary

- said the colonel.

The Austrian military repeated several times that there are a large number of mercenaries on the territory of Ukraine, and not military personnel from NATO countries. It is worth noting that this information is not new; previously, such a practice used by Western countries has been repeatedly reported. Poland was especially successful in this, sending its military to Ukraine under the guise of "soldiers of fortune." So in the Armed Forces of Ukraine there will be someone to manage the German Leopards.

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[rotmistr60]

There are many military personnel of NATO countries in Ukraine, there will be no problems with tank crews

What we knew about, in the west, the inhabitant guessed the Austrian said aloud. Few doubted that sooner or later Western tanks would appear in the NVO zone with foreign crews. Isn't it time for the Russian side to officially indicate that the countries of the EU and the USA are direct participants in the military conflict with all the ensuing consequences? But not far off is the appearance of aircraft with NATO pilots taking off from the territory of Poland, medium-range missiles and weapons hubs in Poland and Romania that continue to operate actively. We say that we are at war with all of NATO, but at the same time we are afraid of disturbing them.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: rotmistr60

What we knew about, in the west, the inhabitant guessed the Austrian said aloud.

The Austrian colonel is so brave, while coffins go in batches to Ukrainian cities and villages, and every coffin in Europe is an event. not statistics.
I will look at the Austrians when not one carcass of this colonel comes to them, but a hundred, two or three boxes.

The lives of Ukrainians, as you know, are worth nothing to them. Let's see what European lives are worth. NATO has already lost, if the Turks are to be believed, half of what is in Iraq.
It's only the beginning...

[Victor Leningradets]

Unfortunately, you think in stereotypes of the end of the last century. Today, the lives of the Western plebs will completely go on parity with the lives of Ukrainians (the peoples inhabiting Ukraine). A totalitarian system has been formed in the West, capable of suppressing any discontent, and the propaganda machine will justify any losses in the war with Russia. Only crowds of crap prisoners under the escort of the National Guard on the streets of European destroyed cities are able to heal the Western public consciousness.

[ivan1979nkl]

The lives of Ukrainians, as you know, are worth nothing to them. Let's see what European lives are worth

they don’t care about European lives either, the main thing is that there is no scandal, publicity

[fif21]

Quote from ivan1979nkl

the main thing is that there should be no scandal, publicity

Count how many servicemen retired from NATO armies in 22 years.
Someone thinks that this is 500, but I think that 90% are already in Ukraine.

[Vladimir80]

Dear, if you declare that someone is a participant in the conflict - it will be like "red lines", they said - and then what?

[tatarin1972]

Our country very often, lately, moves these red lines, and the NATO countries, led by the United States, on the contrary, say that they do not care about these notorious red lines, they do not exist for them. The question is what NATO needs to do so that our "sheep" in power understand that they are being led to the slaughter.

[Vladimir_2U]

In captivity, these beauties have nothing to do! Adik Shiklgruber has been waiting for them if they disdain to tumble with Bandera in a frying pan.

[igorbrsv]

Lately the west itself has been drawing red lines. And he moves them. See for yourself

[Epaulettes]

Quote: rotmistr60

with all the ensuing consequences?

What is it with?

[Ka-52]

We say that we are at war with all of NATO, but at the same time we are afraid of disturbing them.

There is such a great expression: "declare - offer." So that your comment does not look like buffoonery, voice your strategy. Are you proposing to start a third world war? Do you propose to start bombing Vienna, London and Washington? We are ready for the fact that not only fighters on the Ukrainian front will die, but the inhabitants of our Russian cities. What about gigascale?

[Epaulettes]

Quote: Ka-52

We say that we are at war with all of NATO, but at the same time we are afraid of disturbing them.

There is such a great expression: "declare - offer." So that your comment does not look like buffoonery, voice your strategy. Are you proposing to start a third world war? Do you propose to start bombing Vienna, London and Washington? We are ready for the fact that not only fighters on the Ukrainian front will die, but the inhabitants of our Russian cities. What about gigascale?

So what to do?
It is useless to break Ukraine. There, the United States will line up a whole line behind her. If we break Ukraine, the Baltic states will go into action. Then Poland. Then the USA can connect Kazakhstan. Then Georgia. Then Japan.

How to get out of this situation?

[Ka-52]

It is useless to break Ukraine. There, the United States will line up behind her

Well, the victory over Ukraine is now fundamental for us and for the West. Everyone recognizes this. Therefore, the war will not be easy, you need to be prepared for this. Although there are already talks about the "Korean" version, which may be an intermediate solution that suits everyone.

the Baltic states will go

they do not have even a tenth of the strategic influence that two states have - Ukraine and Poland.

Then the USA can connect Kazakhstan. Then Georgia. Then Japan.

Kazakhstan? Well, in some distant future ... maybe so. If we do not draw conclusions from the situation in Ukraine. Georgia is definitely not a threat to us. Yes, and Japan too - it has China and North Korea much more important antagonists

[Epaulettes]

Quote: Ka-52

Well, the victory over Ukraine is now fundamental for us too

In order to defeat Ukraine, you need to fight with it, and not, figuratively, shake it by the scruff of the neck.

Russia, except for a head-on assault and pinpoint strikes on the energy infrastructure, is not doing anything.
The entire military-political leadership of Ukraine is alive and well. The military registration and enlistment offices are intact. Bridges across the Dnieper are not destroyed. Railroad junctions are not destroyed. Ukraine still has access to the Internet and television. Well, etc. A lot of things are not being done. But here we continue to pay them for the transit of our resources.
What kind of fundamental victory in such conditions can we talk about?

[Ka-52]

Russia, except for a head-on assault and pinpoint strikes on the energy infrastructure, is not doing anything.

Well, maybe that's the plan. I don't know. Russia, without significant damage to its economy, grinds the armed forces of Ukraine. Which have already completely used up their stocks in armaments and stay only on their supplies from NATO. Yes, their mobilization resource is bursting at the seams. And from our side, any intensification of hostilities will require the involvement of a larger outfit of forces - from the economy to the mobilization resource. Remember the ad "And if the result is the same, then why pay twice? (c)"

Bridges across the Dnieper are not destroyed. Railroad junctions are not destroyed. Ukraine still has access to the Internet and television.

Well, they already wrote about bridges, and even here, in VO. And about railway nodes. Regarding television and the Internet, they hit the Kyiv TV tower back in March (you overslept), but this did not particularly affect the situation. Well, they put additional repeaters and that's it. Everyone catch a caliber? I don't know, it makes no sense to me now. It is justified in the case when there is a strategic goal - the capture of enemy territory. And there is no such goal in my opinion now

[Epaulettes]

Quote: Ka-52

Russia, without significant damage to its economy, grinds the armed forces of Ukraine

You are wrong. The economic effect is simply delayed, but it will definitely show up. Both as a result of the sanctions, and due to the fact that several hundred thousand people were pulled out of the country's economy and sent to the army.

Quote: Ka-52

grinds the armed forces of Ukraine

Unfortunately, it works both ways... There are no immortals in our army. It is always harder for the attackers and their losses are higher than those of the defenders. And now the RF Armed Forces are on the offensive.

Quote: Ka-52

It is justified in the case when there is a strategic goal - the capture of enemy territory. And there is no such goal in my opinion now

And what do you think is the goal? To achieve that the Ukrainian society is tired of the war and rebelled? In conditions when the West stands behind Ukraine, not only with its economic, but also propaganda and political power, the probability of such a scenario tends to zero.

[Ka-52]

You are wrong. The economic effect is simply delayed, but it will definitely show up. Both as a result of the sanctions, and due to the fact that several hundred thousand people were pulled out of the country's economy and sent to the army.

sanctions have been and will be regardless of Russia's actions in Ukraine. You do not seem to understand the mechanism of their application. Regarding mobilization - against the background of Russia's total mobilization resource of 30 million people. 300 thousand is only 1%, a drop in the ocean. And despite the fact that we have 4 times more deaths from alcoholism per year than now died in hostilities, it’s not worth talking about the impact on the economy in general.

Unfortunately, it works both ways... There are no immortals in our army. It is always harder for the attackers and their losses are higher than those of the defenders. And now the RF Armed Forces are on the offensive.

that is, you are now in all seriousness declaring that it is Russia that has lost more than 100 thousand. military personnel, and not Ukraine? Are you writing from Poltava?

And what do you think is the goal? To achieve that the Ukrainian society is tired of the war and rebelled? In conditions when the West stands behind Ukraine, not only with its economic, but also propaganda and political power, the probability of such a scenario tends to zero.

The war now works exclusively against Ukraine. The economic and demographic crises are eating it up much faster than Ukrainians themselves think. If you look at the situation in the future, Ukraine is already doomed as a state. Even if for some time they can hold on to the IMF and EU handouts (which will not save the economy in any way), they will not recover from the demographic crisis. Russia itself and as part of the USSR received two demographic pits - 1941-1945 and 1987-1998. Moreover, the depth is much smaller than the Ukrainian ones. But they still come around to us every 20 years. So the problems of Ukraine will only grow. And it is unlikely that the patriotic spirit compensates for the complete decline in absolutely all spheres of life of the population.

[yho]

Russia, without significant damage to its economy, grinds the armed forces of Ukraine

The damage is there, and huge. There is already a budget deficit, and we haven't even started yet.

[abrakadabre]

There is such a great expression: "declare - offer." So that your comment does not look like buffoonery, voice your strategy. Are you proposing to start a third world war? Do you propose to start bombing Vienna, London and Washington?

Not necessary. First you need to demonstrate the consistency of your position. With regard to red lines, including: to destroy the transport infrastructure of the square. Starting right from the western border crossings. border crossings. Use economic leverage to inflict maximum damage on the enemy's economies, and not spare and cherish them in every possible way. I'm talking about Europe.

[Ka-52]

and what side are the border crossings in Ukraine and the answer to London? How will you "disturb" Washington by bombing the bridge on the Dnieper? You write a little about that. I asked about another couch strategist above

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Ka-52

There is such a great expression: "declare - offer." So that your comment does not look like buffoonery, voice your strategy. Are you proposing to start a third world war? Do you propose to start bombing Vienna, London and Washington? We are ready for the fact that not only fighters on the Ukrainian front will die, but the inhabitants of our Russian cities. What about gigascale?

Precisely in order to prevent this from happening, it is necessary to bawl at all levels that the EU is a participant in the hostilities against the Russian Federation, hammering this paradigm into the heads of Europeans, and achieve at least a semi-official recognition of this fact. At least that this thesis is swallowed up, and not swept aside with indignation by Europe (but this is already a matter for the diplomatic corps and the media).
And then, when hitting some Poland, Uncle Sam will not fit in for her. Even now, if he fits in, then with great reluctance and as far as possible - and then he will not move at all, joyfully finding a reason for this (the EU was the first to strike at the Russian Federation). And there will be no nuclear war. And the example of the same Poland will serve as a very sobering factor for the whole of Europe.
But, I repeat, in order to do this, one must first clearly fix at all levels the fact that the EU is a participant in hostilities against Russia. And when now our people are constantly pushing this at all discussions, they are doing it right. You just need to be more active and assertive. (And in perseverance and arrogance, one must follow the example of a chubak)

[rotmistr60]

Ka-52 (Andrey)
Are you proposing to start a third world war?

Do you propose to wait until they hit us more seriously? Are you sure that if (for example) Polish troops enter Western Ukraine and they are hit, then NATO will immediately get involved in the conflict with all its might? I'm not sure. And this "on-duty whining" about "you want WW3 to start...." and so on. pretty much pissed off. In your opinion, let NATO fight with Russia, because. this is the right of the strong, and Russia should know its place?

[Ka-52]

And this "on-duty whining" about "you want WW3 to start...." etc. pretty much pissed off.

it's good that among the people who have the right to make such decisions, there are no crazy people like you. Maybe you have nothing to lose, except for pajamas in Kashchenko, but I think tens of millions of our citizens (including children) are unlikely to want to become radioactive ash at your brainless whim. Nuclear weapons are the weapon of last resort. And it should be used only when there are no other options.

[rotmistr60]

Did you have to resort to insults, liberal citizen? Now quote where I called for the use of nuclear weapons in the first comment? You need to read carefully.

[Ka-52]

Now quote where I called for the use of nuclear weapons? You need to read carefully.

you were afraid to answer directly and began to wag the sirloin. But the essence is still traced in your comment - you need to attack the NATO countries. And the attack of the NATO countries will certainly lead to a direct confrontation with the forces of the alliance. If you lack the ability to predict, then I will help - of course, the strength of the alliance significantly exceeds our ability to defend. This is a sober look. Therefore, if a war starts, it will start on our territory. And here the question will already arise about the application of that clause of the military doctrine of the Russian Federation, which says that we will use nuclear weapons in the event of a threat to our statehood. Which will certainly lead to a retaliatory strike and the destruction of a significant part of our infrastructure and population. Are you calling for this, waving like cowards the call "let's hit NATO"? Well be brave

[Graz]

Quote: Ka-52

Ka-52 (Andrey) Today, 07:07 New
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We say that we are at war with all of NATO, but at the same time we are afraid of disturbing them.

There is such a great expression: "declare - offer." So that your comment does not look like buffoonery, voice your strategy. Are you proposing to start a third world war? Do you propose to start bombing Vienna, London and Washington? We are ready for the fact that not only fighters on the Ukrainian front will die, but the inhabitants of our Russian cities. What about gigascale?

If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame.
W. Churchill. (With)
Everything will be so, according to Churchill, you must strike first and have the initiative in actions. rather than providing it to others. we need preventive nuclear strikes on NATO bases and supply points of Ukraine in Poland and Romania, and this is the only way

[Ka-52]

Everything will be so, according to Churchill, you must strike first and have the initiative in actions. rather than providing it to others. we need preventive nuclear strikes on NATO bases and supply points of Ukraine in Poland and Romania, and this is the only way

it's good that among the people who have the right to make such decisions, there are no crazy people like you. Maybe you have nothing to lose, except for pajamas in Kashchenko, but I think tens of millions of our citizens (including children) are unlikely to want to become radioactive ash at your brainless whim. Nuclear weapons are the weapon of last resort. And it should be used only when there are no other options.

[Pavel_Sveshnikov]

I also think that it is time to bring vigorous supplies to the stage and show our readiness to use them. First, you need to get out of the treaties restricting the use of nuclear weapons, then conduct tests, then present an ultimatum to surrender to Ukraine and, if it refuses, use the transport infrastructure to supply military equipment in western Ukraine. They don’t understand, continue until they declare surrender.
And there is nothing to ruin and maim our guys.

[Sergei_tactics]

If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame.
W. Churchill. (With)

And what's the shame, babbler? We are fighting in Ukraine. The enemy has political allies. Why does this shame us? You carry what you don't know

Everything will be so, according to Churchill, you must strike first and have the initiative in actions. rather than providing it to others. we need preventive nuclear strikes on NATO bases and supply points of Ukraine in Poland and Romania, and this is the only way

And what do you propose to achieve? We will destroy the bases in Romania, in response the United States will destroy our cities in the middle lane and Siberia. What is the strategic advantage? Any action must lead to a positive result. Now you’ll beat some kind of nonsense - but let’s just commit suicide in order to take revenge on the kaklam

[Jcvai]

There are different variations of the indirect answer.
Starting from the actual cessation of funding by our state and near-state structures fighting against us, to, for example, the transfer of captured anti-tank missiles and man-portable missile systems to North American drug cartels for their return to their homeland in exchange for the elimination of supply channels in our direction.
Lots of solutions. But only those that bring pain are perceived. This is either for the life and health of the decision maker, or for their wallet. And if someone kills Russians directly or indirectly, he must answer.
So far, unfortunately, the most severe punishment from ours is the awarding of iPhones and Turkish resorts.
(Although, this is a visible part. For much goes unnoticed, such as a series of accidental accidents in infrastructure, the addition of “doomsday bookmarks.” And we simply do not take into account many things, like the long-term refusal of petrodollars by large producers. But this, again, is rather weak, so far their military-industrial complex has windfall profits on our deaths)

[fif21]

Quote: Ka-52

Are you proposing to start a third world war? Do you propose to start bombing Vienna, London and Washington?

Isn't she already on her way? The Nord Streams were blown up, the impudent people drowned the Moskva cruiser, NATO soldiers are fighting on the territory of Ukraine, NATO satellite constellation and intelligence are conducting military operations against the Russian troops, NATO is financing the military operation of Ukraine.
Is this not enough for you? Are you waiting for this cowardly pack of jackals to declare war on the Russian Federation? Don't wait. I'm going to you it's not for them.

[Bad thing]

Based on the logic of the colonel, Wagner can conduct military operations in any NATO country and Russia will be out of business, or is it different?

[Andy_nsk]

Based on the logic of the colonel, Wagner can conduct military operations in any NATO country and Russia will be out of business, or is it different?

Exactly! The incident is widely known when musicians in Syria stormed the territory controlled by mattresses (in the eastern oil-bearing regions), the Americans asked the command of the RF Armed Forces, what's the deal? - ours answered: "we have nothing to do with it", after which the musicians began to shoot Amer's fire support aircraft, they suffered heavy losses, our fighters did not interfere.

[Ka-52]

you confuse horseradish with a finger. That case in Syria is widely known - there the PMCs were fulfilling a separate contract to seize the oil-bearing region. They did not act in the interests of the RF Armed Forces or our joint command. Let me remind you that PMC is still a private military company, it can also accept third-party orders if they do not contradict the interests of the home country. that case was just that. They tried to squeeze out someone else's field, the owners (Kurds) complained to the amers), they understand that they did not think for a long time.

[AlexWar]

For disposal along with tanks? Why do other countries need this war? If they are only, as it were, officially, not officially sent. There are many military personnel from NATO countries, this is a confession. And we also doubted that only Ukraine was fighting against us
The entire territory of Ukraine is mined, there are so many mines that there have never been so many in any other war.

[Lech from Android.]

Where to bury them all then?
The rabble from all over the world has gathered on the battlefield.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Where to bury them all then?
The rabble from all over the world has gathered on the battlefield.

"On earth everything is one for her, apatites, or dung. So come, dear, in rows and columns!".

[Petr_Koldunov]

Yes, it's not a question. A common practice... After all, volunteers from Russia fought in the same way in the Donbas for eight years.
But there is one big "but"! It was because of these volunteers that all of Europe squealed that Russia was participating in the conflict and recognized Russia as a party to the conflict! First unofficially, and then quite officially - when the crazy midwife von der Leyen from the rostrum of the European Parliament officially announced Russia as a party to the conflict. Why? Yes, because it participates in the Donbass war with the supply of weapons and volunteer formations. Oops...wow, what a familiar situation! A question for the crazy midwife - is she ready to recognize the EU as a party to the conflict and a participant in hostilities in the same way?

[Tagan]

Quote: Vladimir80

Dear, if you declare that someone is a participant in the conflict - it will be like "red lines", they said - and then what?

That's actually what you said. Find out, but later.
That's where the reason to mumble at least something.))

[rocket757]

Austrian Colonel: There are many military personnel of NATO countries in Ukraine, there will be no problems with tank crews

. The question is, have those "vacationers" already decided that this is their war?
And so, there will be problems, of a different plan and in total, it may turn out ... it will not work out as they need.
In general, time will tell how it is.
We are preparing to the maximum, there is no other way.

[fiv]

You are a Nazi pig, not a contract mercenary, Austrian mold, Anschluss burp

[Tagan]

Quote: Shoulder straps

So what to do?
It is useless to break Ukraine. There, the United States will line up a whole line behind her. If we break Ukraine, the Baltic states will go into action. Then Poland. Then the USA can connect Kazakhstan. Then Georgia. Then Japan.

How to get out of this situation?

Katz offers to surrender. (C)

Yes, the Baltic tigers are serious guys. Especially in the company with Georgia.
But Georgia at one time raked and now is not very eager. Delete (for now).

[Epaulettes]

As you are already tired of this Katz. Obviously, you are his regular viewer.

Quote: Tagan

Yes, the Baltic tigers are serious guys

Solovyov and Simonyan laughed at Ukraine in front of the NWO in exactly the same way. Now for some reason they are no longer funny.

Quote: Tagan

(till)

Well, wow, you still have a grain of rationality.
It's good that you understand exactly what "yet".
It is foolish to underestimate others and assume that the West has not drawn any conclusions from the 2008 conflict. And did not take appropriate measures for the future.

[Uprun]

When military cemeteries begin to be laid out near military units in Austria, following the example of the Psheks, this colonel will sing differently or they will shower him with his own slippers.

[digger]

This is the result of a kiss on the ass of British mercenaries instead of a demonstration execution.

[Tagan]

Quote: Shoulder straps

As you are already tired of this Katz. Obviously, you are his regular viewer.

Quote: Tagan

Yes, the Baltic tigers are serious guys

Solovyov and Simonyan laughed at Ukraine in front of the NWO in exactly the same way. Now for some reason they are no longer funny.

Quote: Tagan

(till)

Well, wow, you still have a grain of rationality.
It's good that you understand exactly what "yet".
It is foolish to underestimate others and assume that the West has not drawn any conclusions from the 2008 conflict. And did not take appropriate measures for the future.

Just now I wrote and immediately got tired.)) Are you also a liar? Or maybe I was confused with someone?
If you knew how tired professional whiners are.
Do you want to compare Ukraine with someone from the Baltics? Well, for example, with Latvia or Lithuania? Is it smart to overestimate the undersized and fall into a state of stupor in front of them?

[Epaulettes]

Quote: Tagan

Just now I wrote and immediately got tired.)) Are you also a liar? Or maybe I was confused with someone?

Maybe he got it wrong, it's just not the first time people have written about this Katz, whose nickname begins with the letter T.

Quote: Tagan

If you knew how tired professional whiners are.

Well, you know, it is very unpleasant and scary to realize that for some reason your country smashes its forehead into blood while storming the fortified areas, not even the enemy, but just the enemy’s tool. And, apparently, it does not intend to change this strategy.

Quote: Tagan

Is it smart to overestimate the undersized and fall into a state of stupor in front of them?

Is it smart to underestimate and dismiss them? They are a threat in one way or another, and making fun of them is carelessness.

[tihonmarine]

So NATO does not officially send anyone to Ukraine, but there will be someone to manage the tanks on occasion.

I take off my uniform, sign a contract and go to Ukraine. And now I am not a member of the Austrian armed forces, but a contract mercenary

The colonel wrote everything correctly, signed the contract and you are a mercenary, how much "dough" do the United States and Europe pour in for the war with Russia. They go out of their way to make "Drang nah osten" take place.

[Tagan]

Quote: Shoulder straps

Quote: Tagan

Just now I wrote and immediately got tired.)) Are you also a liar? Or maybe I was confused with someone?

Maybe he got it wrong, it's just not the first time people have written about this Katz, whose nickname begins with the letter T.

Quote: Tagan

If you knew how tired professional whiners are.

Well, you know, it is very unpleasant and scary to realize that for some reason your country smashes its forehead into blood while storming the fortified areas, not even the enemy, but just the enemy’s tool. And, apparently, it does not intend to change this strategy.

Quote: Tagan

Is it smart to overestimate the undersized and fall into a state of stupor in front of them?

Is it smart to underestimate and dismiss them? They are a threat in one way or another, and making fun of them is carelessness.

Well, I'm not going to talk about the letter P.
Are you saying that driving yourself and others into a state of fear is productive? There are situations that we cannot change, there are events about which we have a vague idea. Therefore, in my opinion, since we have harnessed ourselves to what is happening now, then everyone should focus on their own direction and not build theories, scribble devastating comments about what we have no idea about. If you are really worried about the fate of your country (I mean Russia), then make your contribution, albeit a small one, to bring victory closer - help the army, people affected by the war. You look, and the reason for sobbing will decrease. To engage in criticism and moaning, without making any effort, is the easiest thing.

[smok1961]

Niestety nie mogłem znaleźć przytaczanych cytatów w prasie europejskiej. Nie wydaje mi się, że emeryci - czołgiści europejscy porzucą wygodne życie i pojadą walczyć na Ukrainę jako najemnicy.

Przypominam, że najemników nie chroni żadne prawo wojenne.

W polskiej kulturze wojskowej najemnicy nie są tolerowani. A n.p. Niemcy? ...albo Austriacy ?

Ktoś kto zna te kraje wie, że tam żołnierz w ogóle nie jest szanowany. (nie mówiąc o najemnikach) Żołnierze nie wychodzą na zewnątrz koszarów w mundurach, bo to wstyd.

Czołgistów obsługujących Abramsy będzie dość, bo Ukraińcy szkolą się w Polsce iw USA już od pół roku
Jeżeli Ukraina przetrwa jeszcze rok, wszystkie polskie Leopardy trafią na Ukrainę. Polska nie może mieć trzech typów czołgow. Będzie miała czołgi Koreańskie i Abramsy. W warunkach wojennych (serwis i naprawa) dwa typy czołgów, to już za dużo, trzy typy to głupota.

Jest drugi powód dla ktorego Polska pozbędzie się niemieckich maszyn. Polacy mają do Niemców mniejsze zaufanie niż do Rosjan...:)
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A propos wypowiedzi austriackiego pułkownika:
Znalazłem jednak inną wypowiedź Markusa Reisnera :

"Rosja nie dysponuje technologią dorównującą zachodowi. Aby zniszczyć Leoparda muszą na niego napaść 4 rosyjskie czołgi na raz. 3 zostaną zniszczone. Rosyjska wojna nie zmieniła siě, oni"

[Zaurbek]

The new one will be just that moment. 404 had under 3000 tanks (of their own and the countries of the socialist camp) with 404 crews .... there are no more tanks. According to WWII statistics, 1 wrecked tank - 1 dead tanker. But now it will be Western tanks with Western crews. Now they will burn.

[Mapping]

Maybe the supreme will finally change the status of hostilities to WAR and give the command to fight in full force ?? How much can you feel sorry for the Ukrainians and their fifth column?? How many more lives of soldiers and civilians do you need for this??