Showing footage of the defeat of the enemy from the combat module "Berezhok" BMP-2M

The installation of new weapons on the BMP-2 has long been tested by the Russian defense industry. Back in 2005, Algeria ordered from the domestic military-industrial complex the modernization of these machines to version 2M, which meant equipping the equipment with the Berezhok combat module. It consists of a 30-mm 2A42 cannon, 7-mm machine gun, 62 Kornet ATGM launchers and a 4-mm AGS-30 grenade launcher.

In the interests of the Russian army, an improved version of the vehicle was ordered in 2017. In total, by the end of 2022, it was supposed to deliver 124 BMP-2M. Judging by the IISS analytics, the contract was successfully executed and, apparently, was closed last year (probably work continues as part of a new order). After the start of the special operation, BMP-2Ms regularly appear in video materials dedicated to the confrontation between the RF Armed Forces and the Kyiv regime.

The other day, footage of the operation of the BMP-2M from a grenade launcher on enemy manpower was shown. It is alleged that an enemy detachment of five people was liquidated. AGS-17 acted as a means of destruction. Shooting from a grenade launcher is displayed on the monitor of the operator-gunner, to which the video signal from the new B07K2 sight is transmitted. Observation of enemy forces is carried out in the infrared range. The target recognition range of the tank type through the thermal imaging channel of the sight is up to 3 thousand meters.

Comments

[voice of reason]

Here! All the same, an uninhabited combat module and an automatic cannon or a grenade launcher and PUTRs on it is the correct vector for the development of armored vehicles. And another version of the necessary support combat vehicle is a self-propelled guns well armored on all sides with a smooth barrel. This function is now performed by tanks when firing from closed positions. And those self-propelled guns that now have insufficient armor for operations in the 3-4 km band, i.e. direct infantry support.

[SSA]

All self-propelled guns have one concept: "the farther the better." She doesn't need armor like a tank.

Not a single sane commander will drag self-propelled guns to the front, to the range of an ATGM. This is the range of mortars and TOS (which try to increase it with each new modification). And the self-propelled guns should work for 20-30 km.

Tanks shoot from closed positions, not because it is good and wonderful, not at all (the consumption of shells increases sharply, barrel wear is increased, the effectiveness loses to a howitzer). But because the enemy’s positions are saturated with modern ATGMs and a grenade launcher, but you want to live.

[malyvalv]

And why doesn’t the tank suit you as a well-armored self-propelled gun with a smooth barrel?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

The main disadvantage of the tank, as a means of fire support, is the small angle of elevation of the gun barrel. But the T-90 has a relatively good +20 degree with this. The T-72 and T-62 are much worse with this, with UVN +13,5 and +16 degrees, respectively.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: voice of reason

Here! All the same, an uninhabited combat module and an automatic cannon or a grenade launcher and PUTRs on it is the correct vector for the development of armored vehicles.

In this case, the right vector of development was a sight with a thermal channel, which made it possible to use the weapon effectively. And a habitable combat module or not is not essential.

[Nikolay Dyaglev]

But everything, too, could not be done with a 30mm gun? They hung all sorts of different weapons, like a dreadnought, what the hell is the question? Nowhere to put money? There are guns with remote detonation of shells, why sculpt a 30 mm gun and then a 30 mm grenade launcher? What kind of game?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

The 30 mm cannon has a much more powerful shot than the AG-17, and therefore a longer firing range. With closely spaced area targets, the dispersion will be too large.

[Nikolay Dyaglev]

Is AGS 17 a direct standard of accuracy? Don't talk nonsense

[Al manah]

Well, the AGS-17 works in terms of areas, accuracy is not his forte.

[tatarin1972]

With the AGS, you can also shoot accurately. I laid the floor of the tape in the window at 600 m. On the BMP, it is rigidly fixed, the mass is still several orders of magnitude larger, in general, you can shoot pointwise.

[Konnick]

But everything, too, could not be done with a 30mm gun?

This gun, even if there are projectiles with remote detonation, can only be used from direct fire, which is fraught with defeat from an ATGM, and an automatic grenade launcher can very effectively destroy the enemy from a flat trajectory from a closed position, as well as hinged fire.

[Woroshilow]

Well, if, as you said, the commander of an infantry fighting vehicle can shoot from Game, regardless of the gunner, then this probably makes sense.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: voice of reason

And another version of the necessary support combat vehicle is a self-propelled guns well armored on all sides with a smooth barrel.

And why the self-propelled guns have a smooth barrel?
Accuracy will be lower, shells will be more expensive. What's the plus?

[insafufa]

Quote: voice of reason

And another version of the necessary support combat vehicle is a self-propelled guns well armored on all sides with a smooth barrel. This function is now performed by tanks when firing from closed positions. And those self-propelled guns that now have insufficient armor for operations in the 3-4 km band, i.e. direct infantry support.

Well, you decided to remember about assault guns. For an assault gun, a smooth barrel is not rationally better than a rifled barrel, which allows you to fire shells along a hinged trajectory from a closed position and direct fire. There is a backlog and it can be implemented using the NONA gun on a tank chassis. And you will have armor and the ability to fire direct fire. You can remake the T-62 for these tasks. With the elemental base of NONA, you won’t even want to think about tanks.

[Woroshilow]

Where did you see an uninhabited module at the BMP-2M,

And another version of the necessary support combat vehicle, this is a well-armored self-propelled gun from all sides with a smooth barrel

You have just described a conventional MBT. Why should self-propelled guns operate in a 3-4 km zone, all manufacturers are working to move self-propelled guns as far as possible from the front line, all sorts of active-rocket projectiles with a firing range of 70-80 km, howitzers with a barrel length of 65-70 calibers, and You kind of have everything upside down.

[Konnick]

You have just described a conventional MBT. Why should self-propelled guns operate in a 3-4 km zone, all manufacturers are working to move self-propelled guns as far as possible from the front line, all sorts of active-rocket projectiles with a firing range of 70-80 km, howitzers with a barrel length of 65-70 calibers, and You kind of have everything upside down.

An assault self-propelled gun is needed, acting directly to support and at the direction of the infantry unit, without intermediate transmissions, and with a low ballistics gun capable of firing both direct fire along a flat trajectory and mounted, capable of destroying enemy infantry, for example, in a ravine located, for example, in 500 meters, and get into the embrasure of the pillbox a kilometer away. Examples of Brumbar, Shtug and T-IV with cigarette butts.

[Woroshilow]

Yes, Yes ... And you also need to suck and cook borscht, an infantry unit. What the hell did Brumbar outplay in tanks or what?

[insafufa]

Quote from Woroshilow

Why should self-propelled guns operate in a 3-4 km zone, all manufacturers are working to move self-propelled guns as far as possible from the front line, all sorts of active-rocket projectiles with a firing range of 70-80 km, howitzers with a barrel length of 65-70 calibers, and You kind of have everything upside down.

Accuracy drops inversely with firing range, and therefore corrective ammunition is needed over the entire flight distance. An excellent solution would be to install the NONA gun on the base of the tank and the mobility and security and support of the tanks is excellent.

[zloybond]

In the interests of the Russian army, an improved version of the vehicle was ordered in 2017.

In the interests of the Russian Army, it was necessary to order a more powerful module long ago. And we praise the day before yesterday. I remember there was a time and mosquitoes tried to praise. Otherwise, how to justify them in the hands of a soldier ....

[Orange Bigg]

The work on the Epoch module is completed, if you mean it.

[Normann]

And how many berezhkov do we have?
How much can you talk about

[Bingo]

They say correctly that the very paragraph of the infantry when fighting at medium distances is the AGS ... And when the gunner is also behind armor and with decent optics ... What the hell are you going to do to him?

[Orange Bigg]

The main thing is that there are Kornet ATGMs. They will come in handy when meeting with Leopards. The turret part of the same Abrams, reinforced in the latest versions with heavy corundum ceramics, can only be penetrated by the most modern armor-piercing shells or such anti-tank missile systems (ATGMs) as the Russian Kornet- D".

However, instead of heavy corundum armor, blocks of boron carbide are mounted in the Leopard's turret. They are lighter and their protection is weaker than that of the "monolithic" armor of the American M1. The total frontal protection of the most advanced version of the Leopard 2A6 tank can be 900-1000 mm of armor.

The rocket of the Soviet Konkurs-M ATGM, which distinguished itself in battles with the Turkish Leopard-2 in Syria, is capable of penetrating up to 750 mm of tank armor behind dynamic protection. However, the most dangerous for foreign tanks is the Kornet ATGM. Thanks to the special design of the cumulative "torch" of the rocket, the Russian ATGM is capable of burning through 1200 mm behind dynamic protection, which is an absolute record among anti-tank missile systems.

https://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/61639-anti-abrams-weapon/

[Johnson Smithson]

The tower part of the same Abrams, reinforced in the latest versions with heavy corundum ceramics

the Americans said that they would remove all secret armor before the transfer of tanks, there will only be ordinary, without ceramics

[forty-eighth]

Quote from Orange Bigg

when meeting with Leopards.

When meeting an infantry fighting vehicle with a Leopard, it will be very bad, in vain you are arguing

[poquello]

Quote: forty-eighth

Quote from Orange Bigg

when meeting with Leopards.

When meeting an infantry fighting vehicle with a Leopard, it will be very bad, in vain you are arguing

you too, the result of the meeting is unknown and depends on many circumstances, what is the leopard's kuv?

[PROXOR]

Who will see whom first. Cornet is not bullshit. And Berezhka has 4 of them. And even if the first one doesn’t unwind Lepa, they won’t wait for the second one there.

[Simple]

Quote from Bingo

...fuck...

It is written through a soft sign.

[Aag]

Quote: Simple

Quote from Bingo

...fuck...

It is written through a soft sign.

Justify please. ... Then already through a hyphen. But, this is a completely different meaning, context.

[Bingo]

He probably meant another BMP - Bradley. Brad, crap...
PiSi: And also "you'll get hurt" - it is written with a soft sign)

[poquello]

Quote: AAG

Quote: Simple

Quote from Bingo

...fuck...

It is written through a soft sign.

Justify please. ... Then already through a hyphen. But, this is a completely different meaning, context.

namely, given that the synonym is written with "u"

[Aag]

Quote: poquello

Quote: AAG

Quote: Simple

Quote from Bingo

...fuck...

It is written through a soft sign.

Justify please. ... Then already through a hyphen. But, this is a completely different meaning, context.

namely, given that the synonym is written with "u"

Actually confused...
By the way, judging by the promptness of the answer, your "bell" (I'm talking about the "VO" site))) works. (?).

[poquello]

Quote: AAG

By the way, judging by the promptness of the answer, your "bell" (I'm talking about the "VO" site))) works. (?).

why will he work for whom? until they fix it and we will see the answer only passing by

[Simple]

Quote: AAG

Justify please.

The check word is "crap", not "crap"

"Hrenli" even in phonetics does not "beat".
Try saying out loud "Fuck" - get "fuck it."

Yes, these are all trifles compared to world imperialism.

[Aag]

Quote: Simple

Quote: AAG

Justify please.

The check word is "crap", not "crap"

"Hrenli" even in phonetics does not "beat".
Try saying out loud "Fuck" - get "fuck it."

Yes, these are all trifles compared to world imperialism.

Thank you! Convinced.))))
Partly... For stable idemos have developed... in short, - expressions.
"Crap" - in the common language - is nonsense. Without a soft sign - a completely different MEANING!)))
Thank you!
And world imperialism is like that !!)))

[Bingo]

Quote: Simple

The check word is "crap", not "crap"

The mistake is from "Nichren" and "what the hell are you going to do." And to do Crap - the meaning of the action is the opposite. In addition, pronouncing "fuck" does not cause any difficulties at all. Country Greenland or Greenland? Spotted a DIFFERENT pronunciation?

[zloybond]

Never mind. This is such a psychological technique when the arguments in the dispute are over. Sometimes outrage at someone else's illiteracy is such a manipulative technique that helps to win the argument. When there are no other arguments, it is very tempting to say: “What is there to talk about if you can’t even spell the word “milk” correctly!”
Chekhov said: "An intelligent person is not one who does not spill sauce on the tablecloth during a dinner party, but one who notices this, but does not show it." But no: there are individuals who love to notice other people's mistakes and loudly resent them: “Correct immediately!”, “Didn't you go to school?!

[Sebostyuan]

Wash "Berezhok" - they planned to put it on the BMD-2M.

[Sebostyuan]

Was wrong. On the BMD-2 in the 2M version, it was planned to install the BM- "Bereg". Trimmed "Berezhok". The plans were to upgrade 600pcs. BMD.

[Roma 1977]

It's all good. But in the Donbass, even BMP-1s, left over from the time of the dinosaurs, are not uncommon. The rate of production / modernization is needed from 100 pieces per month, not per year.

[Sebostyuan]

For the BMP-1, the Cleaver module was developed back in the 82s. MO preferred BM from BTR-XNUMX. (Possibly for unification)
I still do not lose hope to see the BMP T-15, And sets of additional armor for the existing BMP (D) -1,2,3,4.
50 years have passed since the first BMP. All this time there were conflicts. During this time, it's time to understand that not all infantry fighting vehicles of combat units need to be able to swim.

[Old_geologist]

It is alleged that an enemy detachment of five people was liquidated.

Damn, so many grenades for five people! Well this is how much BC you need!

[Andrey Moskvin]

Do you feel sorry for the fraternal people?

[Aag]

Quote: Old_geologist

It is alleged that an enemy detachment of five people was liquidated.

Damn, so many grenades for five people! Well this is how much BC you need!

Well, if these five threaten your life, health, it's not a pity.
And so - yes, I agree - the effectiveness can be questionable. Especially if the enemy has ATGMs in sufficient quantities.

[igorbrsv]

Grenades are done fast, man long

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

I heard that compensation of 15 million hryvnias is paid for the deceased Ukrainian, that is, about 30 million rubles. Shot to the AGS-17 about 1600 rubles apiece. So for each fighter, such a dear people, up to 15-20 thousand shots can be equivalent. Of course, you need to subtract the cost of fuel, equipment depreciation, allowances. But the math is something like this.

[Al manah]

15 million hryvnia compensation is paid for the deceased Ukrainian

Therefore they have no losses, there are only missing people.

[Ivan_91]

Did you see anyone in this video? That's what I didn't see...
In my opinion, the entire BC AGS was released into the field

[Svale]

Agree. It's actually very similar to welding.

[Szerg]

In my opinion, just the opposite, several grenades to destroy one enemy soldier is a very excellent efficiency.

[maiman61]

Eh! And the Manul2 module with a 57 mm automatic cannon would be better!

[Rage66]

I fired at the exercises from a 30-mm cannon, but I didn’t see a 62-mm horse machine gun in my eyes ...
Isn't that a typo? (BMP-2 commander, Yelan)

[Andrey Moskvin]

2A42 cannon, 7 mm machine gun, 62 Kornet ATGM launchers

The article embarrassingly moved the numbers.
I didn't understand at first.

[Mikhail Maslov]

I see no reason to rejoice. As an option today and now it’s a good option. But tomorrow this is already a “weak” decision. NATO is already being equipped with 40-50 mm caliber guns for armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles. Light armored vehicles are armed with DUM in various configurations. And now We are inferior in these respects. 57mm with both long and short barrels can make a difference.

[Pavel73]

Well, the BMP is good. But how to shoot from an easel? One lieutenant colonel told and showed me. And it turns out that in order to shoot from it, you need to take an emphasis lying on the handles and straighten your back. And at the same time, the shooter becomes almost all in sight of the enemy!
https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/230858/121480968.205/0_187811_99aa872b_XL.jpg
AS?!

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Everything has been thought of before us. It should look something like this.

[tatarin1972]

Several positions, it all depends on the position, trajectory and pace. But one hell, you have to lean on him, he gallops like a horse.

[Normann]

Quote: Normann

And how many berezhkov do we have?
How much can you talk about

Hooray, maybe someone will listen, or maybe not ((
I'm talking about site admins and editors.