The American concept of "early victory" in a long war: how the West plans to defeat Russia in a conflict of attrition

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The American concept of "early victory" in a long war: how the West plans to defeat Russia in a conflict of attrition

First Tanks Leopard 2 has already gone to Ukraine - the head of the Canadian Ministry of Defense made a corresponding statement on February 4. In total, the Canadian government intends to transfer four tanks of this type to Ukraine. In turn, Germany plans to supply 88 Leopard 1 tanks and 14 Leopard 2 tanks. However, these may not be final numbers - the German newspaper Handelsblat reports that Berlin can supply Ukraine with up to 160 Leopard 1 main battle tanks from industrial stocks.

There is already a debate in Europe and the United States about whether to supply fighter jets to Kyiv, and there is no particular doubt that sooner or later the Western countries will come to this decision.



The American publication Politico reports that a consensus was reached among the Western allies not to supply Ukraine with the entire range of weapons immediately after Russia launched a military operation, due to fears of a tough response from Moscow. Therefore, the West provides support to Kyiv gradually, assessing Russia's reaction to each step.

“The strategy is to slowly but steadily increase Western support, from anti-tank Javelins and man-portable air defense systems such as the Stinger to HIMARS MLRS, and more recently, Patriot surface-to-air missiles, tanks and armored vehicles. Therefore, the delivery of aircraft is only a matter of time,”

- writes edition.

We often hear from both analysts and experts and Russian officials about red lines, which should indicate the limit of Russia's patience, but this is a rather vague concept, and, as we see, the Kremlin does not show determination to demonstrate non-standard military-political responses to the actions of the West . Red lines cross over and over again, but nothing happens after that, and the US and its allies feel this sense of indecision on the part of Moscow.

In this article, we will look at what the American “early victory strategy” in a long war, which was developed during the Cold War, is, and how the West expects to defeat Russia in Ukraine.

Technological war between the Soviet Union and the United States


The Cold War between the USSR and the USA cannot be viewed as just a political and ideological confrontation - it was a multi-level, multi-faceted confrontation that included information as well as technological warfare. The main component of this technological war was the arms race. As historian Yuri Bokarev notes:

“Since the creation of the atomic bomb, the country's defense capability has become more dependent on the development of military technology than on quantitative growth. armory arsenals. The political and military leadership of the USSR was never able to realize this fact, since the criterion for success was the number of launch silos, the range of intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) and the power of nuclear charges, and not the accuracy of aiming warheads at the target, the degree of protection of ICBMs from detection, the creation of new types weapons ... This quantitative approach was the basis of the military-strategic doctrine of the USSR, according to which the country's armed forces should have "defensive sufficiency." The doctrine did not provide for the possibility of the adversary creating weapons when a retaliatory strike became impossible or ineffective, as well as weapons that ensured victory without the use of nuclear forces or even any traditional weapons at all. A comparative assessment of the nuclear forces of the United States and the USSR was based on a primitive quantitative approach, as well as the opinion widely spread in Russian literature that the USSR was quickly overcoming the backlog from the United States in the field of nuclear weapons [1].”

The consequence of this approach was the technological backlog of the USSR from the USA in the field of creating strategic weapons. This is clearly seen in the table given by the historian Yuri Bokarev. Even if we confine ourselves only to nuclear weapons, their delivery and detection means, which were actively developed in the USSR, the backlog was an average of 5 years. Following these data, we can state that there was no tendency to reduce the backlog.


In the most important area - improving the effectiveness of nuclear warheads - the backlog even reached 10 years. For example, the warhead of the American Minuteman 1 missile deployed in 1962 corresponded in terms of power and throw mass to the warhead of the Soviet SS-N-8 mod 1 missile deployed in 1973 [1].

The technological backwardness of the USSR from the USA began to manifest itself most clearly in the second half of the 60s. XX century. This lag concerned, first of all, highly sophisticated technology. Lagging behind in the innovation sphere, the Soviet Union became dependent on the import of Western industrial equipment, machines and technologies, paying for them with oil and gas [2].

In the confrontation with the USSR, the Americans relied on economic and technological tools. This confrontation acquired a qualitatively new character with the arrival of R. Reagan to the White House. In early 1982, President Reagan, along with top advisers, set about developing a strategy based on an attack on the main, weakest economic spots in the Soviet system.

For example, former US Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger noted that

“The idea was to bet on our strength and their weakness, which meant betting on economics and technology.”

Weinberger believed that American technological advances in arms, if left unchecked, would give Moscow no chance. In top-secret Pentagon documents, Weinberger wrote about it as a form of economic warfare. He knew the weaknesses of the Soviet system and wanted to exploit it [3].

The significance of technological warfare in the field of armaments increased sharply with the start of Soviet-American negotiations on the reduction of strategic arms. Going into these negotiations, the leadership of the USSR and the USA pursued different goals. In the USSR, with the help of these negotiations, they hoped to reduce the costs of the exhausting arms race. In the United States, the calculation was based on reducing the primitive striking power of nuclear forces in favor of more technologically advanced and flexible types of weapons.

For example, the "freezing" of the number of ICBM silos at the level of 1 for the USSR and 608 for the United States under the SALT-1 treaty created a dangerous illusion of Soviet superiority. If the United States really had so many launch silos, then the USSR included among them unsuitable for new types of ICBMs, as well as false ones created by Khrushchev's order. Having learned about this from Soviet defectors, the Americans were quick to declare that they would consider it "a violation of the spirit of the interim agreement if the Soviet Union expands and deepens in total by more than 054% of the strategic missile silo." In order not to jeopardize "détente", the USSR was forced to reckon with this [1].

As for the START-2 treaty, it is believed that it established approximate parity in strategic offensive arms between the US and the USSR. But this is an illusion that arose due to the fact that the Americans managed to impose on the Soviet side a system of counting strategic offensive arms that was beneficial to them. A unit of START was taken to be one so-called. "launcher". It was considered: a launch silo, a ground-based mobile ICBM launcher, an SLBM launcher, or a heavy bomber.

With such a system of calculations, the USSR not only outnumbered the United States in terms of the number of strategic offensive arms, but also by 104 units (and since 1981 - by 254 units) exceeded their allowable number under the START-2 treaty, which created for the USSR the problem of destroying "extra" strategic offensive arms. The technological backwardness of the USSR from the USA is noticeable even with such a system of calculation. In terms of the ratio of MIRV carriers, the United States was almost one and a half times superior to the USSR, and the Soviet Union did not have heavy bombers with long-range cruise missiles [1].

It is important to note that the so-called “early victory strategy” was also developed under Reagan, which we will discuss in detail below.

In general, as the historian Yuri Bokarev rightly notes, the USSR was able to withstand the military-political confrontation with such a powerful economic rival for forty-five years only thanks to the over-militarization of its economy.

American strategy of "early victory" in a long war


Former GRU officer and member of the Council on Foreign and Defense Policy Vitaly Shlykov in his book “What ruined the Soviet Union? The General Staff and the Economy" notes that during the presidency of R. Reagan, the United States developed a concept (strategy), which he called "the strategy of early victory in a long war", although the Americans themselves called it in short, namely "the strategy of early victory." This strategy was based on the sharply increasing, so-called multiplier (that is, many times superior in effectiveness to the previous generation of weapons) damaging properties of modern and especially promising conventional weapons.

According to Shlykov, the Reagan administration began to sharply increase military spending and conduct various mobilization exercises in industry, but Soviet intelligence failed to obtain any evidence that the United States was increasing its mobilization capacity. On the contrary, there have been reports that the Americans continue to reduce their production capacity for weapons with long production cycles, which include, in particular, tanks and aircraft.

This mystery was solved - the American strategy of "early victory" did not involve the mobilization deployment of the military industry after the start of the war. The material basis of the "early victory" strategy is the advance, before the start of the war, the satisfaction of the basic mobilization needs for weapons, primarily the latest, within the budget and peacetime planning [4].

In particular, according to US Deputy Secretary of Defense for R&D D. Hicks, “the strategy of“ early victory ”pays less attention to maintaining stocks of standard conventional weapons. Instead, the new strategy emphasizes using the most technologically advanced weapons as early as possible against the most dangerous targets. After defeating these targets, the armed forces will switch to the use of traditional weapons and ammunition [4].”

The key to "early victory" is precision-guided weapons (WTO). The United States did not plan to increase its capacity for the production of traditional weapons and was going to achieve its “early victory” mainly through the advance creation of stockpiles of weapons, primarily high-precision ones, which would have made it possible to destroy all the planned most dangerous targets at an early stage of the war [4].

In the same case, if the Soviet Union, as expected, responds to this by launching its huge mobilization machine, as it did during the Great Patriotic War, and begins to produce new planes, tanks, etc. to replace the lost ones, then the United States will not compete with him in this respect. Instead, they will deploy, in particular, the mass production of the WTO, the technological production cycle of which is much shorter than the production cycle of a modern tank or aircraft.

“Now, thanks to the “early victory” strategy, the United States was able to dictate at its discretion any duration of a conventional war. Roughly, such a conflict could be imagined as follows. At the beginning of the war, the United States, thanks to superiority in the WTO, "knock out" conventional Soviet offensive weapons (tanks, planes, helicopters, ships), without touching, of course, the strategic nuclear forces of the USSR, so as not to provoke a nuclear response.
Then comes something like a stalemate. The USSR no longer has the ability to conduct large-scale offensive hostilities, but there remains a huge army capable of waging long-term defensive battles. The United States and its allies, on the other hand, have neither the strength nor the desire to seize enemy territory and engage in grueling battles against a still strong and numerous enemy.
Then the USSR puts its huge mobilization capacity for the production of conventional weapons into play and sends tens of thousands of new tanks and aircraft to the front, while the US mobilizes its capacity for the production of WTO.
Such a war, in principle, can last years and years with varying success.
However, in parallel with the increase in the production of the WTO, the United States is beginning to rebuild its huge economy on a war footing in order to create an overwhelming superiority in conventional offensive weapons. How this is done, the United States convincingly demonstrated during the Second World War. That is, the decisive factor in the war is the potential of the entire economy, and not just the military industry [4]”,

– writes Vitaly Shlykov.

A few months ago, the blogger Atomnaya Cherry, who quoted from Shlykov's work, noted that this particular model of military operations is being played out before our eyes. On the whole, one can agree with this, because some parallels can be traced quite clearly.

Military industry in the post-industrial world


The American strategy of "quick victory" was intended against the USSR, which had a much greater industrial and mobilization potential than today's Russia. However, now we have a slightly different reality. Speaking about today's conflict in Ukraine, it should be noted first of all that we live in a post-industrial world, where the current West, including the United States, no longer has such an industrial potential as in the 80s, just as it does not have the capacities of the USSR and modern Russia.

The end of the Cold War led to a relative reduction in military potentials and the implementation of military reforms in the countries participating in the confrontation. In the early 1990s, the United States formed a new military doctrine, cut military spending by about a third, and restructured the military industry. Of the 120 thousand companies that carried out military orders, only a quarter remained in the second half of the 1990s.

For example, according to the American newspaper The New York Times, prior to Russia's military operation in Ukraine, the United States produced 14 unguided rockets per month - that's as much as, according to Western media, the Armed Forces of Ukraine spend on the battlefield for two days. The need to supply the armed forces of Kyiv forced the Pentagon to triple the production of shells in September, and then double in January. The ultimate goal is to produce over 400 artillery shells per month.

“The Pentagon aims to increase the production of artillery shells by 500% within two years, bringing the production of conventional ammunition to levels not seen since the Korean War. He is investing billions of dollars to make up for the shortage of ammunition caused by the war in Ukraine and to stockpile for future conflicts.”

- пишет New York Times.

How many shells a month Russia produces, given that the country has undergone large-scale deindustrialization, is not known for certain. There is no open data on this subject, we only have dubious messages from unnamed "sources" on RIA "News” that “Russia produces many times more large-caliber shells than the United States.” Even if we assume that the statement of anonymous sources is true, it should be taken into account that the RF Armed Forces spend a huge amount of shells - much more than the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and therefore there are serious doubts that the RF military-industrial complex is capable of producing the same number of shells per month that the RF Armed Forces spend for this same month.

“The economic and military potential of the West, which is at war with us through the hands of Ukraine, is incomparable with ours. The West is able to fight us like this for decades, supplying Ukraine with more and more weapons. We do not have such opportunities. Stocks of Soviet weapons and ammunition in warehouses seem to be running out. This is evidenced by the appearance at the front of the T-62 tanks, the production of which was discontinued in 1975, and even the D-1 howitzers of the 1943 model, ”

- notes, in particular, Colonel aviation retired Victor Alksnis.

We really see how obsolete weapons appear at the front, which speaks, contrary to the statements of some experts who are trying to find other explanations for these facts, about significant problems in the Russian military-industrial complex. However, Viktor Imantovich, noting that "the West can fight for decades," nevertheless somewhat exaggerates the possibilities of the West. Neither in the United States, nor even in Europe, were they ready for a protracted military conflict, and the level of military-industrial production of the West is currently low, nevertheless, the total and potential capabilities of its military-industrial complex are indeed much higher than those of Russia.

Conclusion


Summing up, it should be noted that with the help of Ukraine, the Americans and their Western allies are exhausting Russia's military capabilities and exhausting its army in a protracted conflict. At the same time, while Russia is spending its stocks of cruise missiles, the West is in no hurry to transfer them to Ukraine. Of the high-precision weapons, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have received so far only the HIMARS MLRS.

The opinions of experts about further scenarios for the military conflict in Ukraine differ, but two key scenarios can be identified that are mentioned most often.

Following the first scenario, the Americans and their allies will eventually stop supporting Ukraine due to excessive costs and conclude some kind of agreement with Russia, as a result of which the conflict will be frozen according to the “Korean scenario”.

According to the second scenario, Ukraine's assistance to the West will only increase, as a result of which Russia will be forced to either lose most of the new Russian territories or use tactical nuclear weapons.

There are also those who believe that the military potential of Ukraine is mostly depleted, and Western assistance is insufficient, evidence of this is the success of the Russian troops and PMC "Wagner", in particular, in Soledar and in the area of ​​​​Bakhmut (Artemovsk), therefore, in the "war to exhaustion” Russia will win in the end. However, this may turn out to be a dangerous delusion, since once such events have already led to a "regrouping of troops to more advantageous lines" near Izyum and Krasny Liman.

Here we can cite the words of FSB Colonel in the reserve Igor Strelkov, who, in response to the opinion that Bakhmut / Artemovsk became a “key point of the war”, noted the following:

“Why, one wonders, didn’t similarly developing battles for much larger and strategically important Severodonetsk, Lisichansk, and even for the same Popasnaya not become “key points”? And in terms of time, and in scope, and in terms of the number of troops involved - everything was very similar. Only after that, respected Ukrainian partners suddenly helped our command to first carry out a “successful regrouping”, and then make a “difficult decision”.

The second scenario (negative for Russia) is variable and, in the author's opinion, the most dangerous is the following development of events: the West, as far as possible, exhausts the military capabilities of Russia, and then the Armed Forces of Poland, Romania and the Baltic countries (and possibly , and not only) within the framework of a certain “joint peacekeeping operation”. Now it seems incredible, but at one time it seemed incredible that the delivery of Leopard tanks to Ukraine and missiles capable of striking to a depth of 150 kilometers seemed incredible.

On the whole, it should be emphasized again that a military conflict of attrition is unprofitable for Russia, which has less economic, technological and military-industrial potential than the collective West (not to mention the absence of clear goals and a positive image of the future). In addition, the longer the conflict in Ukraine drags on, the higher the likelihood of NATO countries directly intervening in it.

Использованная литература:
[1]. Bokarev Yu. P. Technological warfare and its role in the geopolitical confrontation between the USA and the USSR // Proceedings of the Institute of Russian stories. Issue 8 / Russian Academy of Sciences, Institute of Russian History; resp. ed. A. N. Sakharov, comp. E. N. Rudaya. M.: Nauka, 2009. S. 252–297
[2]. Baklanov V.I. Crisis and collapse of the Marxist-industrial patrimonial-state system in the USSR // "Modern Scientific Thought". - M.: NII IEP, 2013. - No. 4
[3]. Peter Schweitzer: The secret strategy of the collapse of the USSR. - Moscow: Eksmo, 2010
[4]. Shlykov V. What ruined the Soviet Union? General Staff and Economics // Shlykov V.; Interregional. fund. inform. technologies - M., 2002
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  1. +31
    8 February 2023 04: 19
    The main problem with Kremlin leaders since the Khrushchev era is that they play poker by the rules of the US State Department... where cheating and false promises are one of the main elements of this game.
    This is not our game.
    For some reason, the top leadership of our country, concluding another treaty with the United States, believes that the Americans will strictly observe it ... this naive belief in this annoys me and literally infuriates me.
    How many times the West deceived us and things are still there.
    They deceived the GDP with the Minsk agreements, they deceived them with other agreements concluded earlier, and they will continue to deceive them by promising the Kremlin a bunch of various tasty goodies.
    This is not the way to build the policy of our state... sooner or later it will end badly for all of us without exception.
    1. +13
      8 February 2023 08: 08
      Technological war between the Soviet Union and the United States

      Do not even try to compare the current capitalist country of the 3rd world with an industrial socialist superpower...
      The year 1916 has come, "your brods" send soldiers in a massacre to attack for the "princes" and the rest of the "barons".
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      +17
      8 February 2023 08: 50
      How many times the West deceived us and things are still there.
      They deceived the GDP with the Minsk agreements, they deceived them with other agreements concluded earlier, and they will continue to deceive them by promising the Kremlin a bunch of various tasty goodies.

      Suffice it to recall how, after the imposition of sanctions for Crimea (2014), our dumaks greeted with applause the American congressmen, the very ones who lobbied for these sanctions, who arrived in Moscow on an official visit...

      Ah, it's not difficult to deceive me! ..
      I'm happy to deceive myself!
      (AS Pushkin)
    3. +5
      8 February 2023 20: 52
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      The main trouble of the Kremlin leaders from the Khrushchev era is that they are.

      Our leaders have had no problems since the Khrushchev era and everything is in chocolate. That is why, probably, since the Khrushchev era, problems have begun to grow in our own. And they brought us into great trouble. And leaders to billions of states.
  2. +5
    8 February 2023 05: 42
    As history shows, wars sometimes stopped, that the parties ran out of money.
    1. -2
      8 February 2023 06: 13
      the parties were running out of money.
      CBO will end when they run out svidomye Ukrainians. The Poles and Germans are reluctant to climb into Russia, and the Balts alone will not climb, they are scared.
      1. +4
        8 February 2023 07: 44
        SVO will end when Svidomo Ukrainians run out

        When will the mobilization resource of Ukraine end. And it is beneficial for us that it ends as soon as possible ... But, for some reason, on our part, the mobilization resource, like the equipment, is seen only not directly on the line of contact, and destruction in places of accumulation, training, equipment is not carried out
      2. +1
        9 February 2023 10: 54
        No one will ask the Poles and Germans at all, and they will fight even more fanatically than the Ukrainians, among whom at least sometimes there are non-zombies.
  3. +1
    8 February 2023 06: 14
    Do not underestimate the level of the Soviet Armed Forces. It was not from a good life that NATO members adopted our aircraft and tanks. It was not from a good life that they sat down to negotiate in the 70s. All the best from the past was adopted by the Russian Federation. I don’t think that the West managed to win by military means. And peaceful? To defeat us peacefully, you need to know the logic of our development. And this is beyond the power of even the Russians themselves. Our bureaucracy is in the vanguard, the armor of which is such that no scientist can comprehend the structure of this armor. To fight it, you need to have a reserve of internal energy for 300 years. Neither the Westerners nor the Russians themselves have yet known the strength of our country.
  4. +2
    8 February 2023 07: 39
    I would argue with the first part of the article - based on this logic of the author, the USSR militarily always lagged behind the USA, but then a logical question arises why even the same Caribbean crisis did not develop into World War 3 if the USA were guaranteed to destroy the USSR with minimal losses in your territory?
    The upholding was not as weapons, but as intelligence departments, which resulted from the year 85 in a quick change in the ruling elite and the collapse of the country

    The fact that the Russian Federation will not withstand a war of attrition with the NATO bloc, I think it is clear to everyone, as well as the leadership of the Russian Federation. But what are the goals of the latter and whether these goals are aimed at preserving the Russian Federation is another question.
    1. +1
      10 February 2023 14: 17
      I would generally argue about the technological lag of the late USSR in the military field. There was no such thing. And high-precision was developed and there were projects on drones and much more. Take the same space ... Another question is that it all arose with the collapse of the country. But if you answer seriously, then you need to shovel reference books, but now there is no time.
  5. +9
    8 February 2023 08: 01
    On the whole, it should be emphasized again that a military conflict of attrition is unprofitable for Russia, which has less economic, technological and military-industrial potential than the collective West (not to mention the absence of clear goals and a positive image of the future). In addition, the longer the conflict in Ukraine drags on, the higher the likelihood of NATO countries directly intervening in it.
    Not profitable, but it's almost a year since it lasts and the end is not yet visible.
  6. -8
    8 February 2023 09: 00
    Another horror stories ... without a man, weapons are useless. Mob. resource even in India and China is declining. Economy and war without a peasant cannot be successful in the long run. There are few men in the Russian Federation, but there are also few in NATO ... and there will be no Ukrainians left in a year.
    1. -2
      8 February 2023 11: 21
      Quote: Danila Rastorguev
      . There are few men in the Russian Federation, but there are also few in NATO ... and there will be no Ukrainians left in a year.

      How so? Ukraine is about 40 million. They do not have to work, and at least they can all go to war! They will be given everything ......... It's like drug stimulation in a war. A person with mortal wounds can shoot for a long, long time .... idiots are invincible, they can only be deprived of support, but this is exactly what our leaders do not include.
      1. -4
        8 February 2023 12: 07
        not 40 but 30 before the SVO, then minus another 10, and these are the elderly and women and children, in total they have about 3 million men left
        1. 0
          13 February 2023 23: 36
          There are always about the same number of women as men. Since there are, in your opinion, 3 million combat-ready men, then there are still the same number of women, and this is already 6. It turns out a lot.
      2. -10
        8 February 2023 12: 23
        Our ancestors somehow exterminated idiots and we have nowhere to go ... to break not to build ... We will win on the sly ... we have nowhere to rush ...
      3. 0
        10 February 2023 15: 40
        What 40??? There's only 25 left. In real life, probably less. Where do these domaydanovskie 40 come from? From the ceiling, right?
  7. -5
    8 February 2023 10: 36
    The strategy of early victory is the concept of a "silver bullet" - the main strategic failure of the United States, and the dumbest one at that.
    For example, the mattresses themselves still say that the reason for the defeat of the Third Reich is the "long assembly line." The Tiger is better than the T-34, but while they are making 1 Tiger, the USSR is producing 10 T-34s, and they stumble the German without options. Here it is, the concept of a silver bullet, in the role of which is the Tiger.
    The mattresses themselves, back in Kuwait, got stuck with both feet when they found out that high-precision weapons on aircraft in terms of price / quality ratio are head and shoulders inferior to the shelling of the coast from the main battleships. Therefore, by the way, the decommissioning of battleships was postponed. Then the same thing happened in Iraq, the most striking example is Afghanistan. Where the silver bullet was pushed in almost a week after the start - it's too expensive to drive managers! And switched to carpet bombing. But what they need is not a silver bullet, but good old mass ammunition.
    So the author in vain spread the panic. This strategy has long discredited itself, and now it is objectively destroying the US Army, and I congratulate them on that.
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  9. +4
    8 February 2023 14: 55
    USSR, the backlog averaged 5 years. Following these data, we can state that there was no tendency to reduce the backlog.

    This can be interpreted that the USSR is a peaceful country and was not going to attack anyone, but only respond to emerging threats.
  10. +3
    8 February 2023 17: 31
    The technological backwardness of the USSR from the USA began to manifest itself most clearly in the second half of the 60s. XX century.

    A more erroneous output is hard to come up with.
    In the second half of the 60s, the USSR achieved parity in strategic weapons and superiority in conventional weapons. The defeat of the United States in Vietnam and their refusal to claim world hegemony in Helsinki is a symbol of this era. At the same time, the share of the socialist countries in the world economy grew, the living standards and scientific and technological development grew faster.
    1. +4
      9 February 2023 05: 02
      Rather, on the contrary, in 1967 the USSR abandoned its own computer developments and switched to the American IBM System / 360 architecture in the EU computers, thereby switching to copying American computers instead of developing their own. From this period, the Soviet semiconductor industry began to lag significantly behind the American one.
  11. +5
    8 February 2023 17: 57
    a military conflict of attrition is unprofitable for Russia, which has less economic, technological and military-industrial potential than the collective West (not to mention the lack of clear goals and a positive image of the future)
    This is something we can totally agree with!
  12. -1
    8 February 2023 18: 03
    Quote: Danila Rastorguev
    Our ancestors somehow exterminated idiots and we have nowhere to go ... to break not to build ... We will win on the sly ... we have nowhere to rush ...
    Well, things are obviously different now... lol
  13. +2
    8 February 2023 19: 01
    Quote from Bingo
    The strategy of early victory is the concept of a "silver bullet" - the main strategic failure of the United States, and the dumbest one at that.
    For example, the mattresses themselves still say that the reason for the defeat of the Third Reich is the "long assembly line." The Tiger is better than the T-34, but while they are making 1 Tiger, the USSR is producing 10 T-34s, and they stumble the German without options. Here it is, the concept of a silver bullet, in the role of which is the Tiger.
    The mattresses themselves, back in Kuwait, got stuck with both feet when they found out that high-precision weapons on aircraft in terms of price / quality ratio are head and shoulders inferior to the shelling of the coast from the main battleships. Therefore, by the way, the decommissioning of battleships was postponed. Then the same thing happened in Iraq, the most striking example is Afghanistan. Where the silver bullet was pushed in almost a week after the start - it's too expensive to drive managers! And switched to carpet bombing. But what they need is not a silver bullet, but good old mass ammunition.
    So the author in vain spread the panic. This strategy has long discredited itself, and now it is objectively destroying the US Army, and I congratulate them on that.


    - Not everything is so simple ... Russia has fallen into too viscous honey! And analogies with the past will not work.
  14. +8
    8 February 2023 23: 15
    There were "fat years". Oil for 100+. FNB fluff from receipts. regular budget surplus. But the minimum wage was raised by 100-400 rubles per year.
    This year is not fat. From a large business they ask for a contribution.
    In the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation, in the State Duma, in the Federation Council, in the Government of the Russian Federation since 2015 there are those who were sent on vacation. There are even those who were brought to justice. But most of them stay where they are.
    Calls to the citizens of Russia to unite are heard more and more often and louder. Whom to rally around?
    Previously, it was possible to see what the candidate had for income and property. And now candidates for deputies may not publish anything about themselves.
    We live in the same country. We communicate in the same language. And the deputies are getting further and further from ordinary citizens.
  15. -1
    9 February 2023 03: 09
    For Russia to win, it is necessary to use non-standard solutions and various cunning maneuvers that will confuse NATO. But now Russia is using standard tactics with a strategy that NATO has known since the distant Soviet times and has not changed much since the Second World War. I don’t want to belittle the merits of the Russian army, but our generals are incapable of any maneuvers except for two: either forward or backward. NATO analysts are definitely not racking their brains over the actions of the Russian army, everything is predictable and expected. And it has been said a thousand times over the past 20 years - you won't go far in Soviet, and this applies not only to the army, but to everything else. We must constantly improve and invent something new every time.
    1. -1
      9 February 2023 17: 07
      Just the opposite. We will not be able to be as technologically advanced in war, so this must be leveled. How? Firepower and pressure on all fronts. Yes, they have excellent reconnaissance and high-precision weapons, but when the "farts" are torn in the literal sense of this everywhere, there will be no benefit from the fact that intelligence reports to them that the offensive is going on everywhere
    2. -3
      9 February 2023 19: 12
      The United States tied its own hands. And they are already looking for opportunities for negotiations. While the United States was "dealing" with the overthrow of Putin, the rest of the world went out of sight. First of all, China. Latin America is already turning a blind eye to the "hegemon." The Saudis began to show temper. only on the surface. In the United States, the CIA published a report "threat to national security" and there, just all this is voiced and indicated. Ukraine takes too much time and resources, which will lead to a loss of influence in other key regions. So all these reports and secret doctrines good only in one case. When they are on time.
    3. 0
      10 February 2023 00: 07
      "For Russia's victory, it is necessary to use non-standard solutions and various cunning maneuvers that will confuse NATO." Mn .. yes, but if the Russian Federation has 3 army on its face, trained and armed from the material side in the likeness of Wagner PMCs, then the war ended in a maximum of a year!
  16. +2
    9 February 2023 09: 10
    On the whole, it should be emphasized again that a military conflict of attrition is unprofitable for Russia, which has less economic, technological and military-industrial potential than the collective West (not to mention the absence of clear goals and a positive image of the future). In addition, the longer the conflict in Ukraine drags on, the higher the likelihood of NATO countries directly intervening in it.


    1. What matters is not the absolute indicators of power (military, economic, etc.), but the ratio, the proportions of power / strength to geopolitical obligations.
    The US and the West cannot use their full potential against us at all. Because apart from the Russian Federation, they still have threats: from Iran and North Korea to China.
    2. A conflict of attrition is unprofitable for the West. Because prolonged conflict will inevitably lead to a deterioration in the economic situation in Western countries, whose spoiled population is not as patient as ours. Compared to Westerners, we are real Spartans.
    3. The advantage of Russia is in the availability of natural resources. Technology can be improved, but the lack of resources is more difficult to fix.
    4. NATO, or rather the United States (it is the Yankees who decide everything) will not go into direct conflict with the Russian Federation, the risks are too great. Fallow is not worth a nuclear war, just as Vietnam was not worth it before.
    1. 0
      9 February 2023 19: 17
      I don’t know why you are being downvoted. You are right, even now you can observe the “Ukraine syndrome”, the EU has not yet fully entered the new world processes. The turn of the Russian Federation to the Asian region will still give its results. higher.
    2. 0
      13 February 2023 23: 43
      1. Sounds healthy. Here I agree.
      2. And here it is rather controversial. The West has more cushion than we do, therefore, having dumped, conditionally, 100 tanks on the battlefield, they will reduce the standard of living of their citizens less than we, having dumped the same 100 tanks.
      3. Nothing. In Russia there are no such natural resources that would be only in Russia. We have a lot of them, yes, but not all of them are with us.
      4. But Russia will obviously not go to a global nuclear conflict either. As you yourself wrote, Fallow nuclear war is not worth it.
  17. +3
    9 February 2023 14: 15
    Summing up, it should be noted that with the help of Ukraine, the Americans and their Western allies are exhausting Russia's military capabilities and exhausting its army in a protracted conflict. At the same time, while Russia is spending its stocks of cruise missiles, the West is in no hurry to transfer them to Ukraine. Of the high-precision weapons, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have received so far only the HIMARS MLRS.

    The continuity of generations. Our government should be aware of and calculate all the negative scenarios of this conflict, but it turns out that no, this situation resembles a rat-catcher with a pipe, plus the reckless behavior of the elect can play a cruel joke that no one will laugh at.
  18. 0
    9 February 2023 18: 46
    Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
    Our bureaucracy is at the forefront

    Are you seriously? :))))
  19. 0
    9 February 2023 18: 57
    They could have waited - officials and emigrants will soon destroy all of Russia. And you can't blink
  20. -3
    9 February 2023 19: 02
    Ukronazi wrote, exactly hohukrainets.
    There is only one message - Super there, bullshit here.
  21. 0
    9 February 2023 23: 35
    Quote: author
    Of the high-precision weapons, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have received only the HIMARS MLRS so far.

    unclear
    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation explains:
    Precision weapon (HW): A type of weapon equipped with a control system and capable of hitting an object with one munition within its range with a probability of at least 0,5
    The WTO systems include: reconnaissance-strike and reconnaissance-fire complexes; air and sea based cruise missiles; some types of operational-tactical missiles; anti-aircraft and anti-tank missile systems; aviation guided missiles, cassettes and bombs; individual samples of artillery systems and anti-submarine defense systems


    https://xn--d1abichgllj9dyd8a.xn--90anlfbebar6i.xn--p1ai/encyclopedia/dictionary/details_rvsn.htm?id=12896@morfDictionary
    in "Resolution on fatigue (from) Ukraine" Mr. GAETZ reports:

    As of January 25, 2023, the United States provided Ukraine with:
    (1) more than 1600 Stinger anti-aircraft systems;
    (2) more than 8500 Javelin anti-tank systems;
    (4) More than 700 tactical unmanned aerial vehicles Switchblade systems;
    (5) 160 155mm howitzers;
    (6) more than 5800 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
    24) 1 Patriot air defense battery and ammunition;
    (25) 8 National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) and munitions;
    (26) HAWK; missiles for air defense systems
    (27) RIM–7; Missiles for air defense
    (28) 12 Avenger; anti-aircraft missile systems
    29) (HARMs); high speed anti-radiation missiles
    30) high-precision aviation ammunition;
    (48) over 1800 Phoenix Ghost Tactical;
    (60) 2 harpoon coastal defense systems;
    (53) Unmanned Coastal Defense Vessels;
    /pierced
    CUSV from Textron Systems 4th generation?

    something reminiscent of found near Sevastopol
    MANTAS T-12 - too small
    These are all high end systems.
    And HIMARS is the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (well, mobile, in short)
    It has both unmanaged MLRS power supplies and high precision managed GMLRS power supplies.
  22. 0
    11 February 2023 10: 02
    I think there is no loss - there is a button. lroljnshkY
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  24. 0
    13 February 2023 14: 12
    I especially like the entry into the war of the Balts. There will probably be a mobilization of the Ukrainian model with instructors from there. An early victory does not take into account a retaliatory strike in the first stage of the conflict. It's like the invasion of Iraq. But Russia is not Iraq, we are closer. Their concept considers that the enemy is far away and there will be no response across the United States. But they forget, for example, that the East Coast of the USA is the industrial zone of the USA. The West is energy and computer business, the middle is food. And the destruction of the Western states (close to us) will cause a general collapse of the manufacturing economy and computer technology.
  25. 0
    14 February 2023 09: 25
    Quote: Plate


    2. And here it is rather controversial. The West has more cushion than we do, therefore, having dumped, conditionally, 100 tanks on the battlefield, they will reduce the standard of living of their citizens less than we, having dumped the same 100 tanks.
    3. Nothing. In Russia there are no such natural resources that would be only in Russia. We have a lot of them, yes, but not all of them are with us.
    4. But Russia will obviously not go to a global nuclear conflict either. As you yourself wrote, Fallow nuclear war is not worth it.


    2. Western inhabitants are more sensitive to the deterioration of the quality of life. There they have some protests, for the year in England for the third prime minister. And we have peace and grace. By the way, do you really save on heating, on electricity, on taking a shower? No? So who is really better off, huh?
    3. Just about what. Since we have our own resources (and our closest neighbors, contacts with which cannot be physically interrupted from the outside), then our opponents cannot stop access to them for us. Therefore, we can maintain the database for a very long time. We are not Japan, which was forced to capitulate, having lost its last resource base in Manchuria.
    4. And for us, the rate may not be "Fallow", but the very right to exist. Under these conditions, the use of nuclear weapons is quite an adequate measure. Don't drive the bear into a corner... smart people in the West are well aware of this and will put on the brakes when the situation becomes close to critical. Dolls like Biden or Scholz will be forced to obey the will of their real masters...
  26. 0
    15 February 2023 19: 49
    A small remark about the accuracy of strategic nuclear forces. Eh, but you need it for a preventive strike on enemy strategic nuclear forces. If you have the concept of a counter-preemptive strike, then the fucking accuracy is not needed. Because there is no point in hitting empty ICBM silos. We need powerful ammunition of area destruction. For example, dispersing warheads of 5-10 Mt, capable of creating a dead zone inside the dispersion perimeter. Therefore, the race for pin.dos, they say, they have and we should have, was fucking unnecessary. But this was lobbied by the "generals" of the defense industry, since the creation of all new systems means all new orders.
    In the second half of the 60s, the scientific analysis of specialists from the Academy of Strategic Missile Forces named after. F.E. Dzerzhinsky showed that 300 heavy ICBMs of the R-36 type with warheads of 25 Mt and 360 medium-class ICBMs of the UR-100 type with 4 dispersive blocks of 1,5 Mt each are enough to turn the east of the United States to the Mississippi and west coast to radioactive deserts. Since we have nothing left, then let them burn everything. And the released funds were proposed to be used to improve the silos so that they could withstand a nuclear explosion, and to improve the early warning system.
    However, these reasonable proposals were rejected by the "generals" of the OPK, who needed endless orders for all new weapons.
  27. +1
    16 February 2023 02: 44
    They failed to strangle even Iran with sanctions, and they definitely won’t succeed in us. Time is not the same. They have already lost their complete economic dominance over the world. And this trend will only continue. Further. The author has designated a fork from two options. In fact, the fork has and third option This is a strike on supply bases in NATO territory and, most importantly, the United States itself. A conventional strike on US territory will quickly bring the confrontation to a level close to nuclear and very quickly put the parties to the negotiating table. The US wants to avoid this scenario. This is an option to stop the conflict, which will not expose Russia in the eyes of the world community as a monkey with tactical nuclear weapons, and will significantly undermine the authority of the United States. But, we will forever lose that part of Ukraine that we did not capture. And it is in this direction that leadership takes the conflict out.
  28. 0
    19 February 2023 14: 21
    Quote: Tank DestroyerSU-100
    A small remark about the accuracy of strategic nuclear forces. Eh, but you need it for a preventive strike on enemy strategic nuclear forces. If you have the concept of a counter-preemptive strike, then the fucking accuracy is not needed.



    Concepts can be changed very quickly, but the technical means of their implementation are created over the years or even decades.
    In a critical situation, you can try to strike first. In addition, it is not a fact that the enemy, striking first, will use his entire nuclear arsenal. It makes sense to strike at its unused nuclear weapons carriers.
    Accuracy is needed not only for hitting missile silos. It is possible to hit select targets with sufficient accuracy with relatively low-yield warheads, causing unacceptable damage: nuclear power plants, large chemical plants, hydroelectric dams, etc.
    There is no need to turn the entire territory of the enemy country into a radioactive desert. In addition, this will inevitably affect the state of the biosphere as a whole, it will return like a boomerang to those who used nuclear weapons on such a massive scale.