Focus Online: Scenario for Ukraine to receive German submarines in NATO is assessed as unrealistic

According to the German edition of Focus Online, Ukraine's plans to receive submarines from Germany are assessed with great skepticism. The authors of the publication point out that these submarines are extremely difficult to maintain, and therefore, it will take more than one year to train the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to manage them.

The request to send the submarines came from the former Ukrainian ambassador to Germany, Andriy Melnyk, who praised their quality. As the diplomat clarified (if this word is applicable to Melnik), they are necessary for Kyiv in order to push back the Black Sea fleet Russian Navy from the Ukrainian coast. However, even the NATO leadership views this scenario as highly unrealistic.

The publication also says that even from the very beginning of the special operation, it became obvious that the potential of the Russian Navy significantly exceeds the Ukrainian one. Military expert Johannes Peters also expressed his point of view regarding the supply of weapons of this type, linking them with impressive costs for their maintenance, spare parts and repairs. He also noted that it is much more difficult to conduct an appropriate briefing and explain the operation of this ship than, for example, to teach how to use a tank, at least in view of the fact that the crew of a small class 212A submarine includes 28 people.

Moreover, the magazine notes, even if Berlin approves their transfer to Kyiv, their access to the Black Sea will be closed. Even if we assume that Turkey will agree to their passage, this would make it possible to open the strait to everyone, which will allow Russia to strengthen its Black Sea grouping. According to Peters, the North Atlantic alliance will clearly not allow this, since all 6 212A submarines perform important tasks as part of the operations of the military bloc.

Comments

[voice of reason]

There is only one scenario in the former Ukraine now: the nobles give the nobles at least something, at least something. Because it’s too cool Prigozhin made a mess in Artemovsk, and looking at the last hopes, I won’t even overcome it, and at least for an indestructible defense ....

[The black]

The request to send submarines came from the former Ukrainian ambassador to Germany, Andriy Melnyk,

Ukrainian gopniks, they are First, you add 20 rubles to him for beer, and then you suddenly realize that you are already obliged to warm up the kid, because you have to in life. How would you tell the Germans now that you can get rid of debt only if you break the gopar’s nose and arm, or leave for another city ...... by the spring of nuclear weapons, macrons will beg

[Machito]

Melnik somehow did not particularly mention that the Ukrovermacht needed submarines with German Kriegsmarine crews.

[Uprun]

The GDP offered the outskirts to take their "submarine" fleet from the Crimea - they refused .... but it’s out there, Mikhalych!

[Chronos]

The key is crew training. Khkhlov will have to learn from scratch. From the word at all.

[Landwarrior]

For what? If they give something along with the crew

[Nexcom]

where are the Svidomo on them (submarines) going to "drive" ??? or according to the proto-Sumerian principle - just to demand and grab? And there - I don’t care, the main thing is that Bulo!?

Threat in Moscow or something from the underwater situation gathered to naughty ???

[rotmistr60]

The scenario for Ukraine to receive German submarines in NATO is assessed as unrealistic

Did NATO seriously consider this issue? Although today you can expect everything. How is everything running in European and Atlantic organizations, and who will then clean it all up?

[Nexcom]

mark my words - Zelya will also begin to make gypsies among NATO members. Here you will see.

[Popov I.P.]

Pan Melnik made me laugh. What the hell are submariners from Galician farms? After all, the submarine fleet is not only iron, but first of all highly trained crews, otherwise they will ruin both iron and themselves. Operational experience in the Naval Forces of Ukraine of the Zaporozhye submarine has already shown that this submarine went to sea only a couple of times from 1994 to 2014, and then close and without sinking. Again, the submarine needs to be based somewhere, but it won’t be underwater all the time, and the Black Sea (including Odessa, and even more so Ochakov and Nikolaev) is completely shot through by Caliber and Onyx, and how long will this submarine stay at the pier?