The Western press reported on the possibility of the United States to produce no more than 12 tanks per month for Ukraine

At present, the US production facilities allow the production of only 12 tanks per month. This is reported by The Financial Times, analyzing the prospects for the supply of American tanks to the Kyiv regime.

General Dynamics, which manufactures Abrams tanks for the US Army and foreign customers, is waiting for Washington to prioritize orders. Indeed, until recently, the main goal of the company was the production of tanks for Taiwan and Poland, which ordered them from the manufacturer. Now the company's management does not understand which direction will become a priority in 2023 - Ukrainian, Polish or Taiwanese.

In addition, the publication draws attention to the need for thorough maintenance of American-made tanks. It is not enough to transfer the Abrams tanks to Ukraine, it is also necessary to ensure the supply of a huge amount of spare parts and parts, to resolve the issue of fuel supply. According to the FT, jet fuel is more difficult to obtain than diesel.

The pace of preparation of Ukrainian soldiers for the operation of technically complex Abrams tanks raises questions. It is clear that in a few weeks you cannot train a good tanker for Abrams even from that military man who has good experience in driving Soviet tanks.

In addition, after the losses incurred during the year of the special operation, it is unlikely that the Ukrainian army has a large number of qualified tankers: they will either have to call up “age-aged” mobilized with experience in the army many years ago, or start training young people of military age “from scratch”. Both options cannot be called a good way out of the current situation.

Comments

[lubesky]

I won’t be surprised if, as a result, Leclercs, Challengers, leopards, and even Merkavs, but not Abrams, turn out to be in Ukraine ...

Of the abrams in real life, there will only be assurances and intentions ... and "a high degree of probability"

[single-n]

And Abrams will replace all these tanks. Under orders, factories in the USA will be expanded. And the most interesting. Other countries are transferring tanks to Ukraine. Which is bankrupt anyway. But the United States transfers its tanks to solvent countries. And who will pay for American technology for another 20 years.
As a result. The United States will force competitors out of the arms market and earn awesome money. The EU and other suppliers will be left without weapons, and given their deliveries / raids without access to Russian technology. And that means they will unanimously bow to the United States.

[Kaufman]

The United States generally makes big money on what is happening. So we are competing with the first economy in the world, despite the fact that they are in the black, and we are vice versa. We are losing commodity markets.

[Osipov9391]

Are we losing commodity markets for the profit of the oligarchs who have now paid for the war of the West against Russia with money transferred to the West?
We are losing the lives and health of our people! Every day we receive coffins from Ukraine, we receive disabled people whose life is crossed out.
And certainly not one tens of thousands of dead.
Here is our payment for these markets, these tanks and everything else!

[Osipov9391]

Those countries that buy it instead of theirs given to Ukraine will pay for the delivered equipment to the Americans.
And Russia will probably pay for the supply of both new and used equipment to Ukraine with frozen (read already stolen) assets and property of the oligarchs that have been arrested.
Ukraine will not pay for anything - there is simply nothing. Yes, and physically could not for such deliveries.
The countries of the European Union, no matter what goals they pursue, will also not want to pay for these military supplies to Ukraine without receiving anything in return.
And then everything will be paid for with arrested Russian money. Moreover, for a long time and such deliveries for this money are possible for years.

[single-n]

Will not be enough. The EU has already delivered a bunch of everything + financial assistance + maintenance of refugees. Those 300 billion, of course, are not a small amount, but if not prohibitive. For example, the Poles write that they delivered 240 tanks. To replace them, you will have to purchase new ones. That abrams that Korean ones go from 8. million bucks apiece. In total, almost 2 yards of greenery only for the tanks themselves. Shells and other separately. And only Poland. And how many vehicles are transported for repairs to the same Czech Republic. This is also not a ram sneezed. Well, the consumption of shells ... 1 shot for the d-30 is about $ 500. And they shoot 1 of them a day. Half a cartoon a day. it if only the usual ones were beaten. But if you use all sorts of tricky ones with a price of several tens of thousands of greens. It’s better not to mention MLRS at all. For many in their entire lives have not earned anything modern for 1 charge of the installation. Mmm. This we have not yet reached the cartridges and fuel. And cartridges in such battles are spent in the millions.
And they didn’t talk about airplanes yet. How much does 1 flight of an attack aircraft cost?

Here is an approximate list of how much an hour of flight costs for various military aircraft: - It takes about 60 thousand dollars for a 35-minute Su-40 flight; - American F-22 "burns in an hour" 60 thousand dollars; - a more modern version of the F-35 - 70 thousand dollars.

And you won’t even think about buying new ones without a shudder. There, one f-35 stands under a couple of hundred lyams of greenery. And considering that the USA will become a monopolist, I’m ready to bet on a bottle that the prices will “suddenly” be adjusted :) And today our own production in the EU is happily “trampling around” with friends because of the ocean :)
So the EU gentlemen will have to pay out of their own pocket.

[kor1vet1974]

It is not enough to transfer Abrams tanks to Ukraine, it is also necessary to provide technical specialists, a repair base .. And if it rains (drone) during shrinkage (repair)? And US citizens will die.

[paul3390]

What about carrying them? Trailers, railway platforms? Something I doubt that the old Soviet ones will manage such a mastodon. Not to mention bridges, and even more so - a pontoon park .. But without all this they will not travel far and for a long time .. So, this property will also have to be transferred. I don’t think that there are bags of such equipment in the West. It's one thing to give away a tank from a warehouse, they were going to write it off anyway, and it's quite another to part with scarce tank tractors or a bridge park ..

[voyaka uh]

"I don't think that similar equipment in the West is just bags" ///
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There are a lot of heavy trailers / trucks in the States. Much more than tanks.
They have developed road transport "from ocean to ocean",
where trucks load to the maximum.

[voice of reason]

In general, the striped ones lit the German-pepper-sausage. And now either the grenades of the wrong system, or the delivery is troublesome, or in general their technique is not for average minds, they still won’t be able to master it. A million excuses. This is no accident. Along with their meanness and hypocrisy, the striped ones have one quality - they do not invest in non-core and unprofitable assets.

[Mavrikiy]

will either have to call up "age" mobilized with experience in the army many years ago, or start training young people of military age "from scratch". Both options cannot be called a good way out of the current situation.

Or supply Abrams with Amer's crews.

[single-n]

Or PMC. Abrams are in several dozen countries. It is quite possible to scrape together a thousand or two mercenaries.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Or supply Abrams with Amer's crews.

Trained, the question is when? However, the intrigue is fastened. UVZ pays 5 million for the first lined one, and Sudoplatov's battalion 12 million. for captured intact. Question: What will be the first - ours will be killed or the Ukrainians will sell?

[1razvgod]

12 tanks... Ridiculous. Journalism is the second oldest profession

[dmi.pris1]

Actually, it’s not at all funny. The main trend. Yes, and not only the States will post.

[cold wind]

Again. This is 12 tanks from 0 per month, i.e. absolutely new.
In peacetime, the volume of repairs and modernization was about 30 units per month, they have 4000+ tanks in warehouses.

[oleg-nekrasov-19]

And how many crews for tanks will be able to produce, the Western press did not say anything.

[Uprun]

They sit at the factory and think about what configuration to stamp tanks, one for the outskirts, another for Taiwan, and a third for psheks. Where to go then? To whom is the FAQ and how much?

[dmi.pris1]

It has already been reported that the armor will not be the same as for "supermen"

[spirit]

They breed suckers. It’s easy to transport hundreds of tanks across the globe to the desert, and the sand did not interfere with the gas turbine engine, and there were spare parts, and then local natives were trained on them. How unprofitable excuses went for them: they have one plant, we can’t cope, they are heavy, they eat a lot of fuel, complicated, etc. And the Germans are well aware that they are Bred from here and indignation. If I were in their place, I would “accidentally” turn my lineup with Leo along the way and announce that the repair will take a long time just when the Abrams should arrive, you need to play against the sharper using his own method

[Osipov9391]

Oh how! This means that orders for long money from their faithful allies like Poland will be put on the back burner, and because of all their strength, these tanks will be riveted for Ukraine.
Although the latter could be given from storage, not the newest modifications, for example.

Well now it's important to understand. At whose expense is this banquet. What funds are used to pay for the hybrid military campaign of the collective West against Russia.
And it is paid, apparently, with Russian money. By the same seized assets
state in the amount of more than 300 billion dollars, arrested accounts of oligarchs and other money from Russia that has flowed to the West over the past 25 years.

The Russian authorities and the oligarchs have acted very "wisely" over the past 25 years. They pumped resources to the West and the money for them actually remained there.
Now military equipment and weapons are being made from these resources, and the money left there is paid for its deliveries to Ukraine.

[poquello]

"you will either have to call up "age" mobilized with experience in the army many years ago"
prize money for tanks must be made for them to be transferred to the family in case of death, however, age

[lukash66]

Where are they going to make them? The plant has long been closed and half-dismantled. Cheap takedown. And why produce them, if they were brought decently to Europe anyway.

[cold wind]

Maybe stop spreading this misinformation? There are factories for the production of abrams, there are no difficulties in this.
It is possible to re-profile the finished production of equipment in half a year, a new plant is being built in 2 years from 0. The year is 2023, not 1923.

[Negro]

Quote from cold wind

Maybe stop spreading this misinformation? There are factories for the production of abrams, there are no difficulties in this.

So to speak. The plant where the Abrams were made (Detroit Arsenal) is long dead. The plant in Lima, Ohio is a fairly small facility that would be better described as a tank repair facility. Although it can perform any work, including welding of hulls and towers. The pace of the order of the brigade per year suited everyone quite well - the military, even throughout the middle of the tenths, tried to close the plant as unnecessary.

But,
1. With regard to the currently promised capacity of 12 cars per month for the Abrams (this is the Americans have already accelerated almost twice) is more than enough. Here is a company of Abrams, there is a company of Leo, here is a battalion of the 72nd - it is already possible to live.
2. The production problems of the country, where a single crook and swindler releases one 300-ton class rocket engine and 6 communication satellites per day - every 4 hours, rogue, a satellite releases! - do not exaggerate. The Abrams tank is much simpler than a satellite, not to mention such a rocket engine.

[aybolyt678]

I won’t be surprised if this entire tank menagerie ends up in Ukraine, in the amount of 5 times more than declared

[alexey_444]

Well, they explained why they didn’t want to supply tanks, not because they were afraid of the Kremlin, but because of the high cost. It’s one thing to put a javelin and forget it, but this will have to be serviced, in a Western manner, not like ours, where they themselves can almost fix it in the field. They have had it for a long time, but it’s easy to remove it from the same tank, and then this assembly is taken to the other end of the earth where it is being repaired, this is for peacetime, but not for war, it was not in vain that Israel used our tanks.

[Illanatol]

Quote: Single-n

And Abrams will replace all these tanks. Under orders, factories in the USA will be expanded. And the most interesting. Other countries are transferring tanks to Ukraine. Which is bankrupt anyway. But the United States transfers its tanks to solvent countries. And who will pay for American technology for another 20 years.
As a result. The United States will force competitors out of the arms market and earn awesome money. The EU and other suppliers will be left without weapons, and given their deliveries / raids without access to Russian technology. And that means they will unanimously bow to the United States.

Expand, not expand - another question. Expensive to expand ... what then to do with expanded production? And why? The fewer tanks you produce, the more expensive you can sell them. Here they do not earn profits in bulk, but by rising prices, and therefore the production volumes are ridiculous.
There are very few solvent customers, as a rule, those who have a lot of money can produce themselves, with rare exceptions. And the Europeans, at the very least, will provide their small armies with tanks, they don’t need so much. Fortunately, Ukraine now "protects" Europeans ... well, to your health, the white gentlemen are not going to feel sorry for Ukrainians.

So, who do you sell them to? Arabs? Relations with the Saudis (the richest) are not very good, and the Saudis have learned from their own experience that the "Abrams" are definitely not a child prodigy (in Yemen).

You won't be able to make good money. And the Europeans will not bow to the Yankees.
Well, perhaps the Poles, although they have already preferred the South Koreans for some reason. The rest of the shell can buy such tanks only by the piece, finances sing romances.

The Yankees, on the other hand, need to think now how to fulfill the already concluded contracts so that they do not pay penalties.

[APASUS]

All the time this issue is about production. Such a small trick to pass the time. They will reopen the plant in Lima (USA), there is a plant in Greece, in Egypt. There would be a desire to produce